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With close to 500 episodes and counting, Working Drummer Podcast is the source for those interested in what it’s like to be a professional drummer. Hosted by Matthew Crouse and Zack Albetta, Working Drummer covers it all with a dynamic range of pro drummers who represent many different genres and scenes. Each weekly interview features a different performer, sometimes with a less recognizable name, but always with an impressive and distinct body of work. This unique approach has garnered a loyal audience hungry for unfiltered stories about making a living as a musician today.
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246 – Matt Tecu: Playing “Ideas” in Sessions, Drumming in the Echo In the Canyon Documentary

246 – Matt Tecu: Playing “Ideas” in Sessions, Drumming in the Echo In the Canyon Documentary

Matt Tecu is a Los Angeles based studio and live touring drummer. Originally from St. Louis, Missouri. Matt has played on hundreds of recordings and thousands of live concerts world wide throughout the years. He has recorded and/or performed with such artists as Jakob Dylan, Cat Power, Neil Young, Brian Wilson, Stephen Stills, Nora Jones, Beck, Regina Spektor, Stephen Stills, Roger McGuinn, Daniel Lanois, Fiona Apple, Jackson Browne and Sam Morrow to name a few. He presently can be seen and heard in the new documentary/concert film ‘Echo In The Canyon’, as the house drummer for the whole project. Matt lives in Los Angeles and continues to record and perform with some of musics legends as well as new up and comers like Sam Morrow. He also has taught private drum lessons for years. In this episode, Matt talks about: * Serving the song* Playing “ideas” in sessions* Echo and the Canyon documentary * The importance of Ringo* Matt’s journey  Matt endorses: Paiste cymbals, Pork Pie drums, Aquarian heads and Innovative Percussion
01:44:4128/11/2019
245 – Mark Cobb: Playing with Yacht Rock Revue, Combining Clean Craft and Bombastic Showmanship

245 – Mark Cobb: Playing with Yacht Rock Revue, Combining Clean Craft and Bombastic Showmanship

As the drummer in Atlanta’s ’70s juggernaut Yacht Rock Revue, Mark Cobb performs for thousands of rabid fans every week. From the Irving Plaza in Manhattan to the Playboy Mansion in Los Angeles, he brings to life the sounds of the most iconic studio drummers of all time — the Purdie shuffle, Russ Kunkel’s artful tom fills, Jeff Porcaro’s relentless grooves, Steve Gadd’s perfect precision — with stunning accuracy.  He’s performed at the Rose Bowl, the College Football National Championship, the NCAA Final Four, for 35,000 fans on the 4th of July at Turner Field, and on music cruises with Kid Rock, Weezer, KISS, Train, Zac Brown Band, Dinosaur Jr., Emmylou Harris and Heart.   Mark’s infectious enthusiasm for music and drumming was heightened during his time at the prestigious Indiana University School of Music. However, it was not until after he received his degree and spent a year in Los Angeles that he grew into the seasoned player he is today. In this episode, Mark talks about: * The good, bad, and ugly of social media* Building a tribute band around a concept rather than an individual artist* Getting era-specific sounds out of backline kits * Combining the styles and sounds of the era’s drummers into one setlist* How the rise of Yacht Rock Revue and the genre’s rise in popularity have fed each other Mark endorses Vic Firth sticks, Porter & Davies, and Big Fat Snare Drum
01:48:5921/11/2019
244 – Zack Stewart: Creating the Kind of Work You Want, Parallels Between Karate and Music/Drumming, Touring with Country Singer Jerrod Niemann

244 – Zack Stewart: Creating the Kind of Work You Want, Parallels Between Karate and Music/Drumming, Touring with Country Singer Jerrod Niemann

Nashville drummer Zack Stewart was born in Owensboro, KY. Zack began playing drums at the age of 10 when his parents bought him a snare drum and soon found himself playing in local bands and participating in his school’s music program. After high school Zack went on to attend the University of Kentucky and then the Percussion Institute of Technology in California. At PIT, Zack had the opportunity to study with some of the best players and teachers in World. While at PIT he was offered a full-time touring position with The Van-Dells. This led to him relocating to Nashville in the spring of 2005. Since coming to Nashville, Zack has gone on to work with many different artists including Josh Thompson, Rick Monroe, Sean McConnell, Josh Gracin, Lindsey Ell and has toured all the over the US, Europe, and parts of South America. Currently Zack tours with country singer Jerrod Niemann. When he’s not on the road Zack maintains a busy teaching schedule as well as conducting clinics and master classes throughout the South and Mid-West. In 2013 Zack became the Percussion Coordinator for the 24-time State Champion McGavock High School Band Program. Zack also is the owner and head karate instructor at Traditional Karate Nashville. In this podcast, Zack talks about:  * Endorsements in the 21st century* Clinic information that’s useful* Working out musical parts* The parallels between karate and music/drumming* Creating the kind of work you want * Preparing for a 60 minute set in less than 24 hours Zack endorses: Sonor Drums, Zildjian Cymbals, Humes & Berg, Remo Drumheads, Prologix Percussion and Vic Firth Sticks
01:46:1014/11/2019
243 – Andres Forero: Original Drummer for Hamilton

243 – Andres Forero: Original Drummer for Hamilton

TONY, GRAMMY and EMMY award winning Andrés Patrick Forero is the original drummer for the Broadway production of Hamilton, and is considered to be one of the best “crossover” drummer/percussionists in the industry. In 2002, Andrés connected with Tony award winning composer-lyricist Lin Manuel Miranda and Grammy award winning composer Alex Lacamoire. Andrés played a key role in the development of the drum book for In the Heights. Andrés can be found on the original cast recording that was released in 2008. This amazing musical partnership would be rekindled a few years later when Andrés was asked to join Lin and Alex again in the musical development for another Tony Award nominated musical; Bring it On. In 2015 Andrés joined Lin and Alex during the development of Hamilton, An American Musical where he spent several months with the company during its off Broadway run. In 2016, Hamilton won the Grammy for Best Original Cast Recording and has since been certified Triple Platinum. The musical also set a record with 16 Tony nominations and took home 11. In this episode, Andres talks about * His early musical influences, from Bach to the Ohio Players* How music gave his childhood some direction and purpose* Playing with Ringling Bros. Circus* Understanding the elasticity of jazz* The physical and emotional stamina Hamilton requires* Constantly finding nuance in a musical
01:35:5407/11/2019
242 – Personal Finance For Musicians: Financial Expert Michael Mercurio, Myths and Misconceptions of Personal Finance, Q & A from a Live Audience

242 – Personal Finance For Musicians: Financial Expert Michael Mercurio, Myths and Misconceptions of Personal Finance, Q & A from a Live Audience

Michael Mercurio is the Vice President, and a financial advisor for Stephen and Associates Financial Planning, with offices on Music Row in Nashville, TN and in West Palm Beach, FL. Michael works with clients in almost all financial stages of life throughout the country to create strategies that protect and maximize assets, retirement income, estate, and financial opportunities. Michael works with clients in almost all financial stages of life throughout the country to create strategies that protect and maximize assets, retirement income, estate, and financial opportunities. Michael believes and has proven time and again that virtually everyone has substantial growth potential that they are not even aware of. He has helped numerous clients grow and protect their wealth throughout his years as a financial strategist. People can get in touch with Michael at [email protected] or request contact through http://www.sandawealth.com In this episode, Michael talks about: * Myths and misconceptions of personal finance * Understanding where your cash is going and why* How compound interest works when investing * The four basic rules of business* The importance of protecting your assets * Good debt * Different types of financial planning * Questions and answers from our audience 
01:35:0431/10/2019
241 – Mike Levesque: “Playing Drums Like a Songwriter,” Blues and More in Boston, “Buckabeat” Loops

241 – Mike Levesque: “Playing Drums Like a Songwriter,” Blues and More in Boston, “Buckabeat” Loops

Mike Levesque has spent his career in the Boston area. His touring and recording experience includes David Bowie, Seven Mary Three, Natalie Imbruglia, Susan Tedeschi, and many more. He plays on approximately one original record per month and fills out the rest of his schedule with 150-200 live dates per year, still saying yes to almost everything and preferring to be out playing than sitting at home on a given night. He is also currently in the process of launching Buckabeat, using the huge archive of material he’s recorded over the years with producer Sean McLaughlin, and a new model for selling samples and loops. In this episode, Mike talks about: * Still saying yes to almost every gig* The producers and studios in Boston he’s forged relationships with over the years* “Playing drums like a songwriter”* His recent fascination with Reggae drumming* His thoughts on the great shuffle debate* Building a new business and a new business model with “Buck-a-Beat”* Why he prefers doing sessions in person with artists and rather than remotely Mike endorses Vater Drumsticks.
01:27:3724/10/2019
240: Dave Stark – Defining Success in the Music Business, Working as a Clinician & Author, Parallels Between Drumming & Yoga

240: Dave Stark – Defining Success in the Music Business, Working as a Clinician & Author, Parallels Between Drumming & Yoga

Dave Stark is a highly in demand session and touring drummer, as well as one of the world’s top drum instructors and clinicians. He’s been playing music since the age of 5 and drums since the age of 7. Born and raised in New York, Dave studied with legendary teachers Dom Famularo, Jim Chapin, Al Miller, Frankie Malabe, Gary Chaffee and an abundance of other great drummers. After attending Berklee College of Music on a scholarship, Dave’s career took off quickly back in NYC where he became a first call session artist. He also started a teaching career which to this day, has many top drummers seeking out his advice and guidance. For over 25 years, Dave has traveled around the world doing clinics for Zildjian, Yamaha, and ddrum/clavia. In this episode, Dave talks about:  * Defining success in the music business* Important teachers for Dave like Dom Famularo and Jim Chapin* Being prepared when work is scarce * His involvement in PAS* Parallels between drumming Yoga Dave endorses GMS drums, Zildjian Cymbals, Vic Firth Sticks, Drum Muffs, Evans Drumheads, Tru Tuner and Soloman Mics
01:25:3917/10/2019
239: Pudge Tribbett – Touring with Anita Baker, Tye Tribbett & Greater Anointing, “The Philly Sound”

239: Pudge Tribbett – Touring with Anita Baker, Tye Tribbett & Greater Anointing, “The Philly Sound”

Leonard “Pudge” Tribbett is currently the touring drummer for R&B legend Anita Baker. Pudge hails from the Philadelphia area, where he came up in the family business of Gospel Music under the leadership of his cousin Tye Tribbett and Greater Anointing. After attending college on a football scholarship, Pudge went straight into full-time playing and hasn’t looked back. In addition to Anita Baker, Pudge’s resume also includes Roberta Flack, Ray Chew, Regina Bell, and Sheila E, and he is also part of the creative team behind Soul Surplus sample packs. In this episode, Pudge talks about * Anita Baker’s “in the moment” approach to live shows* Getting involved in Greater Anointing as a teenager, and the foundation it laid for his career* Splitting time in college between football, academics, and music* What he learned on a tour opening for Don Henley* “Don’t play what’s in front of you, play what’s in you” * The mentorship of fellow Philadelphian Brian Frasier Moore* His relationship with gear Pudge Tribbett endorses DW Drums, Sabian Cymbals, and Remo Drumheads
01:11:0210/10/2019
238 – Jay Tooke:  Drumming and Producing, Touch and Tone, Working with The Steel Woods and Life after the Band

238 – Jay Tooke: Drumming and Producing, Touch and Tone, Working with The Steel Woods and Life after the Band

Originally from Saskatchewan, Canada Jay Tooke grew up playing bass, drums, guitar, and piano. Before his eventual move to Nashville, TN he spent 15 years dividing his time between traveling the world playing and singing with many artists like Michelle Wright, Chad Brownlee, Doc Walker, Dean Brody, Jodi King and One More Girl as well as writing songs and honing his craft of producing records.  Looking to expand his musical horizons and opportunities, Jay eventually made Nashville TN his permanent home around 2012 where Jay continued to produce as well as build upon his reputation as a solid, tasteful drummer. All of this lead to a 3 1/2 year relationship with the band The Steel Woods. During the week of this podcast recording, Jay announced his decision to leave the band. With recording and producing projects on the horizon, Jay will stay busy expanding his roles in music all while leaving room for growth in an ever changing industry.   In this episode, Jay talks about: * Building relationships and comradery on the road * Touch and tone * His tenure in Winnipeg, Canada and what he learned* Challenges to immigrating to the U.S.* Recording and touring with The Steel Woods* Pursuits after The Steel Woods* The current climate of endorsements Jay endorses Pearl Drums, Innovative Percussion Sticks, JH Audio and Aston Mics
01:40:2303/10/2019
237 – Louis Newsome: A Unique Weekly Steady, “Renewing Your Mind,” Changing Grip to Change His Sound

237 – Louis Newsome: A Unique Weekly Steady, “Renewing Your Mind,” Changing Grip to Change His Sound

Louis Newsome moved to Atlanta in 2012. In addition to church gigs in Atlanta, his bread and butter has been a weekly Thursday steady at Suite Lounge, where he is part of a house band backing a different touring artist every week. Highlights of the long list of artists he’s played with in this capacity include Nathan East, Jeff Lorber, and Keiko Matsui. Louis spent the first part of his career working the triangle of Toledo, Cleveland, and Detroit, and got extensive touring and recording experience with Dwele, Ledisi, Chubby Checker, and many others. Recently been a recurring featured guest in tribute shows to Vinnie Colaiuta and Dave Weckl, and performed with Sheila E. at the 100 Black Men of America Conference in Las Vegas. In this episode, Louis talks about: * His weekly gig at Suite Lounge, and the business model of a house band vs. a touring band* Time management – how to adequately prepare for whatever an artist is throwing at him that week* Being able to anticipate an artist’s needs/tendencies just by hearing their music and looking at their charts* Boredom vs. burnout* How the responsibilities of preparing for a one-off are the same as preparing for what could be a long-term gig* What brought him to Atlanta* The concept of “renewing your mind” in music and life* Why he switched to traditional grip after years of playing matched* “Play That Record Right”
01:36:0526/09/2019
236 – Jerry Marotta: Working with Peter Gabriel and the Influence on Jerry’s Approach to Music, New Record with Tony Levin & Phil Keaggy

236 – Jerry Marotta: Working with Peter Gabriel and the Influence on Jerry’s Approach to Music, New Record with Tony Levin & Phil Keaggy

Following on the heals of his older brother Rick, Jerry Marotta jumped right into the music scene at a very young age finishing high school a year early and hitting the road with a band with a top 40 hit. For the next three decades Jerry divided his time between recording and touring with Peter Gabriel, Daryl Hall and John Oates, Tears for Fears, Indigo Girls, Paul McCartney, Sarah McLachlan, John Mayer and countless others. Jerry is currently dividing his time between recording and touring and managing two studios: DREAMLAND and JERSVILLE. When not in the studio, Jerry is spreading his time between The Marotta Brothers Band (with Rick), The Fragile Fate with Rupert Greenall – from The Fixx, Flav Martin, Security Project with Trey Gunn, Reelin’ in the Years, and Annie & The Hedonists. Jerry’s latest recording project is called The Bucket List that features Phil Keaggy and Tony Levin. In this episode, Jerry talks about:  * His first major gigs as a teenager including drumming for Orleans* The new record with Tony Levin & Phil Keaggy – The Bucket List* Working with Peter Gabriel * Peter’s use of technology and the challenges inherent * The influence that Peter had on Jerry’s approach to music * Jerry’s current projects
01:37:3419/09/2019
235 – Jason “JT” Thomas: Playing with Snarky Puppy and FORQ, “Phrase-Based” Soloing, Memories of Roy Hargrove

235 – Jason “JT” Thomas: Playing with Snarky Puppy and FORQ, “Phrase-Based” Soloing, Memories of Roy Hargrove

Jason “JT” Thomas, is a drummer/producer/singer/writer in high demand for both live and studio work for an array of artists such as Snarky Puppy, Phillip Phillips, CeCe Winans, Fred Hammond, Forq, and many others. JT’s high level of preparation for each artist he works with, along with being a consummate professional on and off stage, is what continues to keep him busy performing on stages and in studios all across the world. He is currently touring with Snarky Puppy and FORQ, and maintains a presence in his hometown of Dallas, where he plays with the Daystar Christian TV Network and various and corporate groups when not on the road. In this episode, JT talks about * The current lineups of FORQ and Snarky Puppy* Why he prefers to live in Dallas, even though he works in New York frequently* His friendship with Keith Carlock* How playing covers with corporate bands improved his jazz playing * Taking EVERY gig seriously as a craftsman – playing a cover song as if you’re playing with that artist* His “phrase-based” approach to soloing * Playing with bassist Kevin Scott* Playing with Roy Hargrove, and the reflections he’s had on Hargrove’s legacy and influence since his death in 2018 JT endorses Yamaha Drums, Vic Firth Sticks, Meinl Cymbals/Percussion, Evans Drumheads, Big Fat Snare Drum, and Lowboy Beaters.
01:29:2612/09/2019
234 – Michael Grando: Drumming for Joe Diffie, 	The Value of Honesty and Reliability in the Music Business, Working with a Click

234 – Michael Grando: Drumming for Joe Diffie, The Value of Honesty and Reliability in the Music Business, Working with a Click

For several years, Michael Grando held the drum chair for national recording artist Chris Knight. He appeared on both his “Heart of Stone” album, produced by Dan Baird formerly of the Georgia Satellites (2008) and on Chris’ 2012 release titled “Little Victories” which was produced by Grammy award-winner Ray Kennedy and featured performances by Buddy Miller and John Prine. After seven years, two critically acclaimed records and countless live performances, Michael left Chris Knight in order to pursue new projects. In the spring of 2013, Michael joined multi-platinum recording artist Joe Diffie. Michael has performed and/or recorded with a very diverse group of artists including such names as, Charlie Daniels, Jason Aldean, Dan Baird, Todd Snider, Warner E Hodges (Jason and the Scorchers), Bomshel, Cowboy Troy, Mike Aiken, Austin Cunningham, Shawn Mullins, Kristen Hall, Francine Reed, Col. Bruce Hampton,”Big Bill” Morganfield, Blueground Undergrass, and many many more. In this episode, Michael talks about:  * Drumming for Joe Diffie* Making his way to Nashville from New York via Atlanta * The value of honesty and reliability in the music business * Working with Dan Baird in the studio* Developing a healthy relationship with the click* Moving from your hometown to a music town 
01:19:0005/09/2019
233 – Brendan Buckley: 20 Years with Shakira, Touring with International Artists, Preparing with No Expectations

233 – Brendan Buckley: 20 Years with Shakira, Touring with International Artists, Preparing with No Expectations

Brendan Buckley is best known for touring and recording with Shakira. He grew up in New Jersey and attended the University of Miami. In 2004, Buckley moved out west to Los Angeles and has since amassed an impressive pop resume that includes Miley Cyrus, Tegan & Sara, Leehom Wang, Perry Farrell and many, MANY others. In this episode, Brendan talks about: * Why LA is a good home base for him and why he moved there in the first place* Extroverts vs. introverts in the music world* Why image is important, but not in the way we think * Spending his college years exploring the many directions the Miami music scene had to offer * Approaching his career path with openness to possibility rather than specific goals * His long tenure with Shakira, and the schedule management and negotiating skills required to fill the gaps* What he covered in his recent clinic at Musicians Institute in LA * Good enough vs. better than it has to be Brendan Buckley endorses DW drums, Vic Firth drumsticks, Remo drumheads, Sabian cymbals, and Roland electronics.
01:13:4729/08/2019
232 – Todd Sucherman: Drumming for Styx, The Importance of a Relaxed Grip, Applying Complex Ideas

232 – Todd Sucherman: Drumming for Styx, The Importance of a Relaxed Grip, Applying Complex Ideas

Todd Sucherman is one of the most in-demand drummers on the planet. In addition to a 20+ year tenure with the legendary rock band Styx, Sucherman is a leading clinician and session artist. In 2018, the readers of Modern Drummer magazine named him “#1 Progressive Rock Drummer” plus”#1 Recorded Performance” for “The Mission” (Styx). His Methods and Mechanics instructional DVD series has won multiple awards. Read more about Todd here. In this episode, Todd talks about: * The importance of a relaxed grip* His set up and the logic behind it* Application of complex ideas on the gig* His time studying with Gary Chaffee* Being an ambassador for education* His experiences with Styx* Recording process with the 2017 Styx record, The Mission Todd Endorses: Pearl Drums, Promark Sticks, Sabian Cymbals, Remo Drumheads, Carmichael Thrones and Audio Mics
01:36:4622/08/2019
231 – Larry Wilson: Constructing a Career and Creating a Life in Atlanta

231 – Larry Wilson: Constructing a Career and Creating a Life in Atlanta

Larry Wilson grew up in Jacksonville, FL and studied music at Florida State in Tallahassee with Leon Anderson. He moved his young family to Atlanta in the fall of 2017 and has gotten busy with a variety of Gospel, R&B, and jazz artists, as well as hosting what has quickly become one of the city’s most popular weekly jam sessions. He has recently released a jazz album called Our Thing, a tribute to the music of saxophonist Joe Henderson. He also hosts a monthly live stream called “Jazz for Lunch” on Instagram and Facebook. In this episode, Larry talks about * The weekly jam at Ten ATL and how he became its de facto host* His experience at Florida State and its growing reputation* The concept of apprenticeship in music* Having his sites set on New York, but deciding against it in favor of Atlanta* Constantly tweaking his set up to play games with himself and explore* Blending the physicality of gospel drumming with the phrasing and nuance of jazz and classical music* Getting in on the beginning of what he feels is a boom in Atlanta
01:11:0315/08/2019
230 – Jim Rupp: Owner of Columbus Pro Percussion, Drumming with the Woody Herman Orchestra,  Teaching in the Information Age

230 – Jim Rupp: Owner of Columbus Pro Percussion, Drumming with the Woody Herman Orchestra, Teaching in the Information Age

Jim Rupp has done extensive touring with the bands of Woody Herman, Maynard Ferguson, and Glenn Miller. Jim spent close to ten years with Grammy Award-winning jazz singer Diane Schuur, and has also performed and toured with artists such as Ray Charles, Tony Bennett, Joe Lavano, Hank Marr, Buddy DeFranco, Maria Schneider, Clark Terry, Joe Williams, Rosemary Clooney, John Fedchock, Natalie Cole, the Cleveland and Columbus Jazz Orchestras, and the Smithsonian Masterworks Jazz Orchestra. These touring credits, plus his educational background, have prepared him well for clinics and performances at colleges and high schools around the country. He has given workshops at the Percussive Arts Society International Convention and the International Association of Jazz Educators Conference. In this capacity he is a clinician for Noble and Cooley drums, Zildjian cymbals, Pro Mark drumsticks, and Remo drumheads.  As a teacher, Jim has taught at Indiana University and the University of Michigan, as well as his current appointment at The Ohio State University. He is also the co-author of an acclaimed drum set method book, “Baby Steps to Giant Steps”. Jim is currently First Vice President of the Percussive Arts Society and is a past chair of the drum set committee for the PAS. He was also a board member of NAMM, the International Music Products Association.  He also founded, and is president of Columbus Pro Percussion Inc, one of the countries largest and most respected percussion specialty stores. In this episode, Jim talks about: * His teaching approach * Working with the Woody Herman Orchestra * The mental aspects of performing* Teaching in the information age * The challenges of getting backline for jazz gigs* The history of Columbus Pro Percussion
01:12:5708/08/2019
229 – Robert Boone: On the Road with the Count Basie Orchestra

229 – Robert Boone: On the Road with the Count Basie Orchestra

Robert Boone recently graduated from Florida State University with his Masters Degree in Jazz Studies and is currently drummer for The Legendary Count Basie Orchestra. He has collaborated with leading artists such as Eric Reed, Marcus Roberts, Dee Dee Bridgewater, Scotty Barnhart, Marcus Lewis, Lester Walker, Rodney Jordan, Bill Peterson, and Leon Anderson. Boone received an undergraduate degree in Music Performance at Kennesaw State University, studying with percussion professor John Lawless and jazz drum set professor Justin Chesarek, and was selected to participate in the 2015 Disneyland All American College Band. In this episode, Robert talks about: * How he got the Basie gig* How relying too much on reading can limit your musicianship* His take-aways from a summer with the Disney All American College Band* Different ways to decipher big band charts and set up phrases* Why Sonny Payne is his favorite Basie drummer* How to make the most of a college program* Avoiding a negative/competitive mindset toward your contemporaries* How to stay plugged into your scene if you’re on the road a lot
01:30:1801/08/2019
228 – Dave McAfee: Drumming for Toby Keith, Remaining Pro Through Tough Times, USO Tours

228 – Dave McAfee: Drumming for Toby Keith, Remaining Pro Through Tough Times, USO Tours

Dave McAfee has been the drummer for every one of Toby Keith’s tours since 2000. Shows with Toby include stadium shows and festivals topping 80,000 fans, televised performances, country awards shows, USO tours as well as a Super Bowl performance for Super Bowl XXXVIII. Other artists Dave has performed and/or recorded with include Wade Hayes, Bryan White, Scotty Emerick, Steven Tyler, Joe Perry, Willie Nelson, Jerry Lee Lewis, Sammy Hagar, David Allen Coe, Steve Wariner, Glen Campbell, Terri Clark and many more. In this episode, Dave talks about:  * Touring with Toby Keith * Defining success and happiness * Overcoming technical difficulties on the gig* Significant changes in the industry * USO touring Dave endorses: Yamaha drums, Paiste cymbals, Aquarian heads, Vic Firth sticks, Woodshed Art, The Grombal, Buttkicker
01:14:4825/07/2019
227 – Horacio “El Negro” Hernandez: His New Big Band Album, Revolutionary Rock Roots,

227 – Horacio “El Negro” Hernandez: His New Big Band Album, Revolutionary Rock Roots,

Born in Havana, Cuba, in 1963, ‘El Negro’ Hernandez has been a force on the international scene since 1990. Whether performing with jazz legends like McCoy Tyner or Michel Camilo, rock stars like Carlos Santana and Stevie Winwood or in notable Latin American ensembles like the Tropi-Jazz All Stars of the late Tito Puente, ‘El Negro’ has also shown himself to be one of the most versatile musicians in the international music scene today. He is the author of Conversations in Clave, one of the drumming world’s most widely used and well-respected method books, and he has just released his first big band album as a leader, Italuba Big Band Live, which is also available on DVD. In this episode, El Negro talks about: * Growing up in Havana, the son of the only jazz DJ in Cuba, and the grandson of a trumpet player* Going to prison for playing rock music* Spending two years in Rome before moving to New York* The young Cuban musicians he recruited to play on his new big band record* The overlaps between Afro-Cuban and big band music and history* The longevity of Conversations in Clave, and his advice to Afro-Cuban beginners.* Challenges and ideas he’s still chasing Horacio endorses Pearl drums and percussion, Istanbul Mehmet cymbals, Promark sticks, Evans drumheads, Shure microphones, and Protection Racket cases.
56:0718/07/2019
226 – Daniel Glass: Making Yourself More Employable Through an Understanding of History, The Importance of Teaching Fundamentals

226 – Daniel Glass: Making Yourself More Employable Through an Understanding of History, The Importance of Teaching Fundamentals

Daniel Glass is an award-winning drummer, author, historian and educator. He is widely recognized as an authority on classic American drumming and the evolution of American Popular Music. Daniel was a member of the pioneering swing group Royal Crown Revue from 1994 to 2014. He has recorded and performed all over the world with many top artists, including Brian Setzer, Bette Midler, Liza Minnelli, Jose Feliciano, Michelle Shocked, Mike Ness, Freddie Cole, Marilyn Maye, the Hot Sardines, the Budapest Jazz Orchestra, Air Supply’s Graham Russell and KISS frontman Gene Simmons. For two years running, Daniel was voted one of the top five R&B drummers in the world by readers of Modern Drummer and DRUM magazine. Since 2011, he has been the house drummer every Monday night at New York’s legendary Birdland Jazz Club. As an educator, Daniel has published five books and three DVDs, including the award-winning titles The Century Project, The Roots of Rock Drumming, and The Commandments of Early Rhythm and Blues Drumming. He is a regular contributor to publications like Modern Drummer, DRUM and Classic Drummer. He has performed hundreds of clinics and master classes globally, appearing at many of the world’s top educational conferences and music festivals. In 2013, he co-curated an exhibit on the history of the drum set at the Rhythm Discovery Center in Indianapolis, IN, for which he was awarded the Percussive Arts Society’s “Distinguished Service Award.” Daniel currently resides in New York City. In this episode, Daniel talks about: * Playing cabaret style gigs* The importance of knowing history when learning styles * His podcast, “The Daniel Glass Show” * The importance of teaching the fundamentals * The story and evolution of the hi-hat  http://danielglass.com/daniel-bio/daniels-gear/
01:34:0411/07/2019
225 – Johnny Radelat: Playing with Gary Clark Jr., Playing a TV Gig for a Week, The Austin Scene

225 – Johnny Radelat: Playing with Gary Clark Jr., Playing a TV Gig for a Week, The Austin Scene

Johnny Radelat has been touring and recording with Gary Clark Jr. since 2012. Born to Cuban immigrants in Jersey City N.J., Johnny came of age in Miami, FL, and currently resides in Austin TX. Prior to teaming up with Gary Clark Jr, he honed the skills and subtleties of playing/touring with reggae, R&B, soul, and Funk bands, while still embracing a bombastic/caveman-ish approach to drumming. In this episode, Johnny talks about * Guesting for a week with the 8G Band on Late Night with Seth Meyers* What attracted him to Austin after getting his start in Florida* How Austin supports musicians in tangible ways (healthcare, etc.)* The first gigs he played in Austin, and how they challenged him* How moving to Austin and playing with Gary changed his approach* Gary’s esoteric way of expressing what he needs from Johnny * How “dancing” behind the drums can reinforce your feel Johnny endorses Gretsch drums, Sabian cymbals, Promark sticks, and Evans drumheads.
39:3004/07/2019
224 – Rick Brothers: Drumming Life After Nashville, Drumming for Former Bad Company Singer Brian Howe, Lessons Learned After 15 years in a Music Business Town

224 – Rick Brothers: Drumming Life After Nashville, Drumming for Former Bad Company Singer Brian Howe, Lessons Learned After 15 years in a Music Business Town

Rick Brothers has performed with over 40 artists at events such as the GRAMMYs, Billboard Music Awards, CMT Music Awards, the AMAs and the Super Bowl XXXIX pregame show.  During his decade and a half in Nashville Tennessee, Rick worked with various national artists including Ty Herndon, Jo-El Sonnier, Sarah Johns, Doug Stone, Gretchen Wilson, Colt Ford and most recently Bad Company’s former lead singer Brian Howe. During his five year tenure with Colt Ford, Rick recorded drums on four of Ford’s albums. He also recorded with a number of artists and producers including music legends such as Dan Huff (Michael Jackson, Celine Dion, Taylor Swift) and Jonathan Cain of Journey. In this episode, Rick talks about: * Making the move to Florida after a decade and a half in Nashville * Drumming for Brian Howe, the former singer for Bad Company * Responsibilities of a band leader * The self confidence that’s needed to survive in the music business* Using a Zendrum on gigs Rick endorses: CRUSH Drums, Sabian Cymbals, Vic Firth Sticks, Peavey Power amps, Aquarian Drumheads, Qwik Stix Stick holders and accessories, Gibraltar Hardware, and Groove Juice Cleaner
01:21:2227/06/2019
223 – Chad Gamble: Playing with Jason Isbell, Arranging by Instinct, Believing in Talent

223 – Chad Gamble: Playing with Jason Isbell, Arranging by Instinct, Believing in Talent

A professional musician for over twenty five years, Chad Gamble grew up in Tuscumbia, AL in the Muscle Shoals Area. Upon graduating from the University of Alabama, he made moves to Shreveport, LA and Memphis, TN gaining valuable experience along the way, including being nominated twice as “Premier Drummer” by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, Memphis Chapter. He has toured internationally with The Bluebirds, Gamble Brothers Band and Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. Chad has been with Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit since 2008 and has returned to his hometown where he lives with his wife and daughter. Chad received a Grammy for his work on “The Nashville Sound” released in 2017. In 2015, Chad played drums on the Grammy Award winning album “Something More Than Free.” In 2016, he played on the Grammy Nominated Song, “Mother’s Children Have a Hard Time” with the Blind Boys of Alabama. When not on tour, Chad stays busy in Muscle Shoals with recording sessions and teaching lessons. Chad Gamble endorses Gretsch drums, Vic Firth sticks, and Zildjian cymbals.
01:09:5820/06/2019
222 – Megan Jane: Drumming for Hannah Dasher and band Side Piece, Providing a Sonic Pallet for Singer/Songwriters

222 – Megan Jane: Drumming for Hannah Dasher and band Side Piece, Providing a Sonic Pallet for Singer/Songwriters

Megan Jane brings a simple stylistic philosophy to her playing – “less is more.”   After attending Berklee College of Music for two years, Megan moved to Southern California and began getting as much experience playing live and working with varied artists as possible.  She decided to make the move to Nashville in order to gain more opportunities in her musical career. Since moving to Nashville, Megan has played drums live and in the studio with several artists like Kree Harrison, Misa Arriaga, Sonia Leigh, Fiona Culley, Hailey Steele, Steve Grand, Hannah Dasher the band Side Piece and others.  She has also had the opportunity to play with Joan Osborne as well as to sit in on auxiliary percussion with Dr. John at the Americana Music Awards. She has experience playing all types and sizes of show and stage and has opened for artists ranging from Chris Young to DEVO. Megan has also been involved with several projects as a studio musician including working with Grammy award winning Sony producer Josh Monroy (Ludacris, Quincy Jones) on various projects.  She has recently recorded for Nashville-based Fiona Culley, Wild Ponies, Ellen Angelico and Amelia White, as well as London-based Worry Dolls.  In this episode, Megan talks about:  * Performing on the Grand Ole Opry* The mind / body connection * Working with the band Side Piece and singer Hannah Dasher* Channeling Jim Keltner & Marco Giovino in creating a sonic pallet * Normalizing seeing women on stage * Knowing when to be flexible or firm when keeping time  ​Megan endorses Murat Diril cymbals & Vic Firth sticks ​
01:13:5013/06/2019
221 – Clayton Craddock: Drumming for “Ain’t Too Proud,” Constructing Your Own Safety Net

221 – Clayton Craddock: Drumming for “Ain’t Too Proud,” Constructing Your Own Safety Net

Clayton Craddock’s drumming career spans decades and numerous Broadway and Off-Broadway musicals. Clayton is currently the drummer of the Broadway Show Ain’t Too Proud-The Life AndTimes Of the Temptations now playing at the Imperial Theatre on Broadway. Clayton has also held the drum chair and recorded the cast albums for the musicals Altar Boyz, tick…tick… BOOM!, Memphis the Musical and Lady Day At Emerson’s Bar And Grill with Audra McDonald. After earning his bachelor’s in business administration from Howard University in Washington, Clayton stayed in the D.C. area, managing record stores by day and immersing himself in the local music scene by night as a drummer for blues and rock bands. In 1993, Clayton took a leap of faith and moved to New York City to pursue a career in music. In this episode, Clayton talks about: * The development and upward trajectory of Ain’t Too Proud * The process of launching a musical from the conception and initial workshopping to the full production* Learning the vocabulary of choreographers to understand what they want from a drummer* Emulating Benny Benjamin and other drummers who were part of The Funk Brothers, Motown’s “Wrecking Crew.”* Taking low money for workshops and readings in hopes that you can get in on the ground floor of something big * The many shows he’s played for over the years, either on a permanent or sub basis* The role of the Musicians Union in New York and the musical theatre scene* His experience at Howard University in Washington DC* His white collar career after college, and making the leap to full time drumming* How building your network is constructing your own safety net Clayton endorses Innovative Percussion.
01:23:1406/06/2019
220 – Harry McCarthy & Jon Hull: The Business of Drum Teching, Cartage, Professional Backline

220 – Harry McCarthy & Jon Hull: The Business of Drum Teching, Cartage, Professional Backline

Harry McCarthy has offered his technical skills­­ on the road and in the studio for major artists such as Bruce Springsteen and The E Street Band, The Eagles, Eric Clapton, Neil Young, Mark Knopfler, Carly Simon, Hall & Oates, Michael McDonald, Madonna, Toto, James Taylor, Keith Urban and numerous others. He was raised in the same metro New York neighborhood as successful drummers, Rick and Jerry Marotta. In 1989, he established Drum Paradise Los Angeles, with partner Jeff Chonis. Throughout the late 80s and early 1990s, Harry toured extensively with many high profile acts. In 1994, McCarthy relocated to Nashville and established Drum Paradise Nashville, Inc. Throughout his career, McCarthy has assisted legendary drummers, including Steve Gadd, Jeff Porcaro, Don Henley, Rick Marotta, Jerry Marotta, Max Weinberg, Richie Hayward, Bernard Purdie, Vinnie Colaiuta, Jim Keltner, Mitch Mitchell and many others. Jon Hull was born and raised in Chillicothe, OH. He started playing drums at age 13. Thoughout high school and college he played and recorded in various bands, and marched indoor drum corps. After finishing college and relocating to Nashville, he began working as a drum tech both on tour as well as in the studio. He has since worked with such artists as Jason Aldean, Paramore, OAR, Young the Giant, Story of the Year, and others. Harry and Jon’s latest venture is The Drum Pad, a new teaching facility for drummers of any age or skill level. In this episode, Jon and Harry talk about:  * What is involved in being a drum tech * The “Drum Pad” in Drum Paradise* The origins on Drum Paradise * How Jon got the job of drum teching for Rich Redmond* Dealing with emergencies * Harry’s experience working the Super Bowl halftime show with Bruce Springsteen * Importance of understanding technology * Harry’s tech work with Jeff Porcaro * Managing your time and expectations in the music business
01:39:0030/05/2019
219 – Mathieu Gramoli: The Paris Scene, The Band HER, Using Technology to Make Human Choices

219 – Mathieu Gramoli: The Paris Scene, The Band HER, Using Technology to Make Human Choices

Mathieu Gramoli is a French-American drummer, composer, teacher and producer, who is best known for recording and touring with the band Her. Born in Paris, his musical talent became apparent at the age of fifteen when he picked up drumming during high school to play rock and funk with some friends. After high school he went to the Sorbonne Nouvelle Paris III to study Applied Foreign Languages for two years before attending the Centre des Musiques Didier Lockwood, graduating in 2004. Professor André Charlier entrusted him to replace him as the drummer for Captain Mercier. He then entered the Conservatoire National Superieur de Musique de Paris and went on tour the same year. In graduate school, he met and performed with musician Ricardo Herz and played with Marco Pereira, Philippe Baden Powell, all members of the Brazilian scene. He has toured with French artists Lou Marco, L, Nina Attal, Corneille, Gaël Faye and had his first experience as a co-leader with the band Tekere with which he recorded two LPs. As a studio musician, he recorded on Eric et Ramzy’s movie Seul Two, Sofia Ribeiro and Guillaume Duvignau’s Porto LP, Orquestra do Fuba’s Quem Mando and Fabrica do Sonhos. In this episode, Matthieu talks about: * The challenge of playing simple but funky grooves with Her* His musical education in Paris* Getting involved in Paris’ Brazilian music scene and traveling to Brazil* Getting into Hip Hop, and how Brazilian phrasing overlapped with it * Some of his favorite venues and musicians in Paris* Learning how to communicate with musicians who don’t speak “drum,” – what people say doesn’t always express what they want.* The value of recording drums at low volume, and some micing techniques* Wanting to lead more projects, but knowing that nobody does it alone * Mathieu endorses Bay Custom Drums.
01:20:2423/05/2019
218 – Jarred Pope: Heavy Drumming with Tom Keifer (Cinderella), Damon Johnson (Alice Cooper, Thin Lizzy), “Thee Rock and Roll Residency” in Nashville

218 – Jarred Pope: Heavy Drumming with Tom Keifer (Cinderella), Damon Johnson (Alice Cooper, Thin Lizzy), “Thee Rock and Roll Residency” in Nashville

After his thoughtful move to Nashville from his home state of California in 2012, Jarred Pope has found strong and steady work in the heavy rock world. Throughout his career, Jarred has and continues to earn respect among a highly reputable group of musicians within many genres that includes rock, hard rock, country and pop. Jarred has worked with Gene Simmons, Whiskey Falls, Hannah/McCuen, Julianne Hough, Jimmy Hayslip, Waylon Holland, Crosby Loggins, Beasto Blanco, Dennis Hamm, Mother Funk Conspiracy. In recent years, Jarred has been working with The Tom Keifer Band (lead singer from Cinderella) as well as Damon Johnson (Alice Cooper, Thin Lizzy, Black Star Riders) with whom he recorded on a new record, – Memoirs of an Uprising.   In April of 2014, Jarred started playing drums for the Thee Rock and Roll Residency that was started by guitarists Jeremy Asbrock and Phil Shouse. It became a regular and longest-running, star-studded, Rock N’ Roll extravaganza in Nashville, TN.  In this episode Jarred talks about: * Working with Tom Keifer and the trust and respect that Tom extends to his band mates* Jerred’s drum tech Jeff Brown and the benefits of having a drum tech* Jarred’s early experience in California * His short stint with Gene Simmons* “Thee Rock and Roll Residency” in Nashville* Touring and recording with Damon Johnson * The parallels between playing golf and playing drums  Jarred endorses Gretsch Drums, Aquarian, Vater and Gibraltar
01:36:1316/05/2019
217 – Dame Drummer: Touring with Fantastic Negrito, Coming up in Cleveland, Opportunity & Creativity in Oakland

217 – Dame Drummer: Touring with Fantastic Negrito, Coming up in Cleveland, Opportunity & Creativity in Oakland

Dame Drummer lives in Oakland, tours with Fantastic Negrito, and is about to release his latest original project, a double-length album called Loveolution. Dame grew up in Cleveland where he cut his teeth on the local scene playing funk, R&B, and whatever else came along. He moved to Oakland in 2012 at the urging of some friends who already lived there. His Rust Belt work ethic quickly and creative spirit put him in high demand Oakland and he’s been busy ever since, both as a collaborator and a leader. In this episode, Dame talks about: * The drum chair with Fantastic Negrito, and sharing it with other drummers* Combining drumming, singing, and rapping* How drums and rap influence each other* Why it’s important to be “more than a drummer” * The underdog identity of his hometown of Cleveland, and how it gave him a strong work ethic* His move to Oakland and working his way onto the scene there* The history and legacy of Oakland Funk, Hip-Hop, and R&B* Viewing each gig as a point on the arc of your career, rather than a make-or-break single event* Getting creative and proactive about building and targeting an audience Dame Drummer endorses Regal Tip sticks.
01:00:5309/05/2019
216 – Derek Mixon: Drumming for Chris Stapleton, Supporting the Song

216 – Derek Mixon: Drumming for Chris Stapleton, Supporting the Song

For the last few years, Derek Mixon has been the drummer for country singer and songwriter Chris Stapleton. Derek played drums on all of Chris’s award winning solo albums to date. Originally from West Monroe, Louisiana, Derek drew inspiration from his surroundings that included his father who was a professional musician. The musical sensibilities he learned early in life as well as his time in Nashville over the last 20 years has been the preparation that was needed to play the role of drummer supporting one of the most prolific writers and modern country music.  Derek has also worked with Sam Lewis, Jedd Hughes, Rodney Crowell, Tracy Bird, She daisy, Jack Pearson, Sarah Buxton, Sam Bush, Jamey Johnson, Jace Everett, Jim Lauderdale and Al Perkins  In this episode, Derek talks about: * Performing on Austin City Limits* Derek’s intro to music through his dad* His start in Nashville * How to support the songwriter * Derek’s drum tunings in the studio  Derek endorses: Ludwig Drums, Remo drumheads, Vic Firth, Zildjian, Winding Wheel Supply
01:05:0902/05/2019
215 – Damian Erskine: The Portland Scene, Playing with Uncle Peter, The “Strength of Ego” to Play Simply

215 – Damian Erskine: The Portland Scene, Playing with Uncle Peter, The “Strength of Ego” to Play Simply

Damian Erskine is known for his ability to fit into most any musical situation, extraordinary reading and improvising skills as well as being an educator and columnist. He has played in the studio or on the stage with Peter Erskine, Gino Vannelli, The Jaco Pastorius Big Band, Bob Sheppard, John Beasley, Jeff Lorber, The Buddy Rich Alumni All-Star Band, Antonio Hart, Charmaine Neville, and many others as well as being featured on the GospelChops.com “Shed Sessionz Vol. 1” DVD. Damian is an adjunct professor at Portland State University in Portland, Oregon. In addition, he regularly teaches abroad with JAE (Jazz Education Abroad) in Shanghai, Beirut, Cyprus, and Bangkok as well as teaching camps in the US at • Gerald Veasley’s Bass Bootcamp, the National Guitar Workshop, and Berklee College of Music’s Guitar Week. Damian has written for Bass Player Magazine, Bass Musician Magazine, as well as continuing to maintain a popular weekly column at NoTreble.com. Damian has also authored two books, “Right Hand Drive” and “The Improvisor’s Path” In this episode, Damian talks about: * The Portland/Pacific Northwest scene, and what keeps him busy there* Starting on drums, moving to bass* How the competitive environment of Berklee didn’t inspire or motivate him* Growing up and playing with Peter Erskine, and how Peter influenced his bass playing* The pros and cons of having a “drummer brain” as a bassist* His take on Peter’s “tough love” style of mentorship* Staying up on the Portland scene and forming new relationships with younger players Damian Erskine endorses Skjold basses, Aguilar amplification, Groove Gear, MXR pedals, D’Addario strings, Reunion Blues gig bags, and Pig Hog cables.
01:13:4625/04/2019
214 – Rick Marotta: Bringing Your Personality to Music, Recording w/Steely Dan, James Taylor

214 – Rick Marotta: Bringing Your Personality to Music, Recording w/Steely Dan, James Taylor

Rick Marotta is known for his recordings and touring with such luminaries as James Taylor, Jackson Brown, Steely Dan, Carly Simon, Paul Simon, Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Larry Carlton, Warren Zevon and Bette Midler. Rick began playing drums at 19 when a friend went into the army and left his set of drums to Rick. It wasn’t long before Rick began playing with R&B bands in the New York area, recording with David Spinozza and the group Giant as well as The Riverboat Soul Band. Rick’s current activities include writing music for movies and television, recording jingles and producing.His scoring for TV can be heard on Everybody Loves Raymond, Yes Dear, and the Hank Azaria Show. In this episode, Rick talks about: * His master class at Drum Paradise in Nashville* Staying open to input and fresh ideas* Skills that are needed to record in the studio * Bringing your personality to your playing * Playing gigs with his brother Jerry* Composing music * Cutting “Hour That the Morning Comes” for James Taylor * Recording with Steely Dan * Double drums with Steve Gadd* Changes in the music industry
01:42:5218/04/2019
213 – Nick Ruffini: Our Annual Roundtable

213 – Nick Ruffini: Our Annual Roundtable

Once a year, we get together with our buddy Nick Ruffini of Drummer’s Resource to catch up on developments in our lives, podcasts, and careers. In this episode, Zack, Matt, and Nick talk about: * Los Angeles: Nick’s first impressions, Zack’s memories, the good, the bad and the ugly * Nick’s new company, Revoice Media * Playing drums vs. other music-related jobs, and how ego and identity plays into that mix * Insecurity surrounding money * Matt’s outlook on the Nasvhille scene * Examples of drummers who had amazing gigs, then took a step back from music to do something different
01:20:1711/04/2019
212 – Steve Sinatra Part 2: Working with Hunter Hayes, Source-Science-Sound, Rediscovering the Love of Music

212 – Steve Sinatra Part 2: Working with Hunter Hayes, Source-Science-Sound, Rediscovering the Love of Music

Accomplished drummer and spiritual teacher Steve Sinatra has dedicated fifteen plus years to making his living as a full time professional studio and touring musician. He’s toured and shared the stage with many nationally recognized artists such as Sarah Buxton, Pat Green, Richard Marx, Vertical Horizon, Billy Gilman, Joe Nichols, Little Big Town, Hunter Hayes and many others.  After spending ten plus years performing with these notable artists, he had achieved the dream that he embarked on as a child. Still feeling unsatisfied and unfulfilled, he was inspired to dig deeper as to why. That tough question lead him to spending the last four years examining and finding answers to some of life’s tough questions. As he refines and organizes the information, he roots to it through self experience and teaching it to others. The unique blend of experiences and teaching modalities he uses are all linked to three categories, Source, Science, and Sound. www.sourcesciencesound.com is also the website where Steve can be found offering a resource for those asking the same tough questions.  In this 2nd episode, Steve talks about: * Asking the question, “Am I a session player or am I a live player?”  * Working with Hunter Hayes * Explaining the “perspective paradigm” and how t effects us * Rediscovering the Love of Music 
51:0404/04/2019
211 – Steve Sinatra Part 1: Achieving Your Dreams & Still Feeling Unfulfilled, Creating Source-Science-Sound, Choosing How We React to the Good and Bad in Life

211 – Steve Sinatra Part 1: Achieving Your Dreams & Still Feeling Unfulfilled, Creating Source-Science-Sound, Choosing How We React to the Good and Bad in Life

Accomplished drummer and spiritual teacher Steve Sinatra has dedicated fifteen plus years to making his living as a full time professional studio and touring musician. He’s toured and shared the stage with many nationally recognized artists such as Sarah Buxton, Pat Green, Richard Marx, Vertical Horizon, Billy Gilman, Joe Nichols, Little Big Town, Hunter Hayes and many others.  After spending ten plus years performing with these notable artists, he had achieved the dream that he embarked on as a child. Still feeling unsatisfied and unfulfilled, he was inspired to dig deeper as to why. That tough question lead him to spending the last four years examining and finding answers to some of life’s tough questions. As he refines and organizes the information, he roots to it through self experience and teaching it to others. The unique blend of experiences and teaching modalities he uses are all linked to three categories, Source, Science, and Sound. sourcescincesound.com is also the website where Steve can be found offering a resource for those asking the same tough questions.  This episode is sponsored by Shure. Enter here – https://drum-mastery.shure.com to enter the Shure drum solo contest by April 15th, 2019.
01:20:1328/03/2019
210 – Tarik Abouzied: Creative Projects in Post-Grunge/Post-Tech Boom Seattle, Cultivating a Global Audience Online

210 – Tarik Abouzied: Creative Projects in Post-Grunge/Post-Tech Boom Seattle, Cultivating a Global Audience Online

Tarik Abouzied has played and traveled with a vast array of incredible musicians. His groups have collectively produced seven original albums: two from Pocket Change, an instrumental funk septet in the vein of Tower of Power, three from Hardcoretet, a modern instrumental jazz quartet, one from McTuff, an incredible funk/jazz Hammond organ trio, and one from his current project, Happy Orchestra. Happy was awarded 4Culture’s Arts Project Grant and its debut album, Baba, reached #5 on the KEXP NW Music Chart and was nominated NW Recording of the Year by readers of Earshot Jazz. Aside from these groups, Tarik has performed with Victor Wooten, George Porter Jr., John Medeski, Chris Wood, Jeff Coffin, Brian Haas, Jessica Lurie, Nigel Hall, Mike Stern, Bob Franceschini, Damian Erskine, and many more. As an educator Abouzied has led clinics and classrooms at universities and schools internationally. He was a coordinator and teacher for the Seattle Repertory Jazz Orchestra’s Jazz Scholars Program, which provides free music instruction for low-income students, and was the Musical Director for Kentridge High School’s drama program, where he led a pit orchestra comprised of student musicians and professional section leaders. He maintains a private studio of drum set, guitar, bass, piano, and music theory students. In this episode, Tarik talks about: * The creative projects he’s involved with in Seattle * Playing bass on pop/cover gigs, and drums on original gigs * Seattle’s support for original/creative music and art at the government/corporate level * Attending University of Washington, which was not a top-tier music school, but perfect for him at the time * “The Amazon Effect” * Amassing an audience online first, THEN booking and marketing a live show * His blog posts and the role writing plays for him * His take on the “low-paying-gig” debate * An influential night with Dennis Chambers, Victor Wooten, and Bob Franceschini This episode is sponsored by Shure. Check out their drum solo contest at
01:29:0021/03/2019
209 – Petar Janjic: Drumming for Cory Wong, Subbing for Michael Bland, Moving to the U.S. from Serbia to Study Music

209 – Petar Janjic: Drumming for Cory Wong, Subbing for Michael Bland, Moving to the U.S. from Serbia to Study Music

Petar Janjic was born in Kraljevo, Serbia, also known as Kingstown. At 5, his father, a well known Serbian drummer, gave him a drum set and at the age of 10, Petar began studying with legendary a Serbian drummer Slobodan Stojanovic. In high school, Petar toured all over Europe before his eventual move to the United States. In 2008 he studied Music Performance & Percussion at the McNally Smith College of Music and eventually became one of its percussion instructors.   During his time in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area in Minnesota, Petar’s passion for learning and persistence won the trust of Prince drummer Michael Bland and the music community that surrounded him. Petar eventually became Michael’s first call sub. Currently, he continues to tour and record with Cory Wong and just moved to Nashville in pursuit of more music and recording opportunities.  In this episode, Petar talks about: * Moving to the U.S. from Serbia to study music  * Becoming the sub for Michael Bland in Dr. Mambo’s Combo in Minneapolis  * Overcoming the challenges of learning “popular western music” in Serbia  * How he approaches live drumming vs. drumming in the studio  * Being asked to play on a Prince record by Prince  * Working with Cory Wong * His approach to soloing  Petar endorses Paiste Cymbals and Vic Firth sticks This episode is sponsored by Shure microphones. Apply online by April 15th 2019 at drum-mastery.shure.com for the Shure Drum Contest.
01:46:0214/03/2019
208 – Jordan Manley: Touring with Mattiel, Making the Jump to Atlanta, Setting Big Goals, Being a “Band Guy”

208 – Jordan Manley: Touring with Mattiel, Making the Jump to Atlanta, Setting Big Goals, Being a “Band Guy”

Jordan Manley made the move to Atlanta in 2014, after growing up and spending the early years of his career in the small town of Columbus, GA. Since moving, he has been a member of several Atlanta-based groups including Black Linen, Lightning Orchestra, and Mattiel, with who he has been touring the U.S. and Europe, opening for the likes of Jack White and St. Paul & The Broken Bones. In this podcast, Jordan talks about: * What Mattiel and her band have learned from each other * The early years of his career in Columbus * Breaking into the Atlanta scene * Struggling with his musical identity * The West African influence in his childhood church * How playing in hip-hop bands made him more attuned to accompanying vocalists * Focusing on the role of the drummer in a given situation, not just the content of the drumming * A different approach to teaching at Meta Music * His goal-setting philosophy This episode is sponsored by Shure Microphones. Enter the Shure Drum Mastery Contest by April 15th!
01:44:2207/03/2019
207 – Carmine Appice: The GUITAR ZEUS Project, Mixing Technique with Power and Volume

207 – Carmine Appice: The GUITAR ZEUS Project, Mixing Technique with Power and Volume

One of the premier showmen in rock, Carmine Appice became known worldwide for his astonishing live performances and a highly sought-after session drummer, He is known As the drummer for many ground breaking rock bands in the late 60’s to early 70’s like Vanilla Fudge Cactus as well as one of the first super groups with Jeff Beck, Beck, Bogert & Appice. In 1976, he joined Rod Stewart’s band, touring, recording and writing two of Stewart’s biggest hits, “Do Ya Think I’m Sexy” and “Young Turks.” In the early 1980s, he toured with Ozzy Osborne and Ted Nugent. In the mid ’80s, he formed King Kobra for two Capitol albums and international touring. In the late ‘80s, he formed Blue Murder with Whitesnake’s John Sykes and The Firm’s Tony Franklin. In the early ’90s, he pounded away soul-style for The Edgar Winter Group. As an educator, Carmine was the first to legitimize rock drumming with his landmark book, The Realistic Rock Drum Method, selling over 400,000 copies His latest project is a re-release of his GUITAR ZEUS project, a compilation album featuring a who’s who list of the best and world-renowned guitarists on the planet including Brian May, Slash, Neil Schon, Yngwie Malmsteen, Paul Gilbert, Richie Sambora, Dweezil Zappa, Vivian Campbell, Steve Morse, Dug Pinnick, and many others In this episode, Carmine talks about: * The GUITAR ZEUS project, a compilation album * New projects and a stage in Carmine’s career  * Life leading up to Vanilla Fudge * The influence of drummers in the 60’s  * Mixing technique with power and volume * Carmine as educator and his very successful book  * Advice for teachers  Carmine endorses Vic Firth, ddrum, Evans drum heads, Sabian cymbals, DW Pedals, Anvil Cases, The Carmichael Throne, Zoom
01:12:1128/02/2019
206 – John Bryant: The Dallas Scene, Playing with Ray Charles, Teaching Drums and Production, Musical Partnership with Stewart Copeland

206 – John Bryant: The Dallas Scene, Playing with Ray Charles, Teaching Drums and Production, Musical Partnership with Stewart Copeland

John Bryant is a drummer, percussionist, composer, educator, and music producer residing and working in Dallas, Texas. Originally from Virginia, he moved to Dallas and majored in music at the University of North Texas, where he performed and recorded with the One O’Clock Lab Band. He has recorded and/or performed with numerous artists including Ray Charles, Delbert McClinton, Joe Walsh, Lightnin’ Hopkins, the Paul Winter Consort, and Doc Severinsen. Bryant has played, composed and produced music for many different types of projects that include regional artists, touring shows, major motion pictures, and documentary films for PBS and National Geographic. His latest project is playing and co-producing for a new record with Glen Clark, a hit singer/songwriter and veteran of Bonnie Raitt and Delbert McClinton. Bryant is a founding member of the world music percussion group D’Drum, and acted as producer of the group’s collaboration with composer and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame drummer Stewart Copeland and the Dallas Symphony on the world premiere of Gamelan D’Drum, a three-movement concerto commissioned for D’Drum. Bryant has recorded across the country in some of the most important recording studios pivotal to the history of American popular music. These include A & R / Columbia Studios in New York with Phil Ramone, RPM Studios with Ray Charles, and Sound Castle Studios in Los Angeles, Criteria Studios in Miami, The Automatt in San Francisco, Fame Studios in Muscle Shoals, Ardent Recording in Memphis, Arlyn Studios in Austin, and most every recording studio in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. In this podcast, John talks about: * The pros and cons of the Dallas scene, and what keeps him and other working musicians there * Leaving school in the middle of his last semester to join the Paul Winter Consort * How living and working in Dallas helped him get the gig with Ray Charles * Dallas’s role in the jingle recording industry * Teaching drumset and music production at Southern Methodist University, and the role of listening in both * One of the keys to nailing a style: the balance or “EQ” between the voices of the drumset in that style * Practicing for coordination/ideas vs. practicing for sound/touch * Playing with Ray Charles, and his experience as a white musician in that predominantly black band * His long friendship and musical partnership with Stewart Copeland BBC SERIES: HISTORY OF DRUMSET WITH STEWART COPELAND HISTORY OF THE BASS WITH TINA WAYMOUTH HISTORY OF GUITAR WITH LENNY KAYE
01:27:3621/02/2019
205 – BaldMan Percussion: Drummers Mike McKee & Danny Young, Creating The Junk Hat, Promoting with Integrity

205 – BaldMan Percussion: Drummers Mike McKee & Danny Young, Creating The Junk Hat, Promoting with Integrity

Danny Young (bald) and Mike McKee (bald) met a few years back while touring together and very quickly bonded over their mutual love for all things drums/percussion. Since then, they started a very nerdy friendship of developing and creating new instruments to use on their respective gigs: Mike with Delta Rae and Danny with Dan Tyminski. In 2018, the two officially joined forces and created “BaldMan Percussion”. The baldmen are continually developing new and unique instruments to help take the drum and percussion world to the a new sonic space! Their first release, The Junk Hat™, is now making it’s way across the world and they are currently in the test stages of their next product! Mike McKee of Raleigh, North Carolina is the drummer/percussionist for the band Delta Rae. He has traveled the world with Delta Rae since 2009, and has performed on Conan O’ Brien, The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, and The Late Show with Seth Meyers. When not traveling with Delta Rae, Mike teaches private drum lessons, records for various artists, and conducts team building programs with Drum Team Collective™. Mike endorses Ludwig Drums, Remo Drumheads, and Vic Firth Drumsticks. Danny Young has been playing drums for 18 years in every sort of band, ensemble, and setting imaginable. He is currently based in Nashville, TN where he plays drums, sings and music directs for Eastland, Lucie Silvas, and 14-time Grammy award winner, Dan Tyminski. Danny can also bet seen playing with Thompson Square, Brandy Clark and Lindsay Ell. ​In addition to touring, Danny is also heavily involved in the studio, both playing drums and singing. He has worked for a wide range of clients including singer-songwriters, pop, rock and country artists, several Cruise lines, theme parks, music publishers and more. Danny endorses Treehouse Drums, Snareweight, Vic Firth and Humes & Berg This episode is sponsored by Vibes Hi-Fidelity Earplugs. Go to www.discovervibes.com and use promo code WDP to get 15% off plus free shipping (free shipping only applies to customers in the USA) In this episode, Danny and Mike talk about:  * Representing at NAMM * Current news with podcast alumni Danny Young * Modernizing the approach to recording in the publishing world * Mike drumming for the band Delta Rae * Mike’s project “Drum Team Collective” * Describing The Junk Hat and it’s many uses * Promoting yourself all while maintaining authenticity ​
01:23:1414/02/2019
204 – Sam Wisman: One Foot in Drumset, One Foot in Percussion, Both Feet in Kansas City

204 – Sam Wisman: One Foot in Drumset, One Foot in Percussion, Both Feet in Kansas City

Drummer/Percussionist Sam Wisman is a versatile fixture in Kansas City’s thriving creative music scene. He is a member of the Kansas City Jazz Orchestra, the Mark Lowrey Trio, Roger Wilder Quartet, Kinnor Philharmonic, Marimba Sol de Chiapas, and the People’s Liberation Big Band. He has performed with the Kansas City Symphony, the Topeka Symphony, New York Voices, Bobby Watson and more. He has worked extensively as a percussionist in musical theater including the Kansas City Repertory Theater, New Theatre Restaurant, Unicorn Theater, Musical Theater Heritage, and the Coterie Theater. Sam has helped premiere works by Harry Connick Jr., Stephen Schwartz, Shirley Jones & Richard Maltby Jr., Henry Krieger & Bill Russell, Samsel/Anderson & Jodi Picoult, and Ahrens & Flaherty. You can also listen to Sam as a DJ for Jazz Afternoon on 90.1 FM KKFI. In this podcast, Sam talks about: How his career of late has become centered around musicals Straddling the classical and jazz departments in college
01:30:0507/02/2019
203 – Dillon Napier: Drumming for Grammy-Nominated Margo Price, Recording at Sun Studios, The Benefits of Learning Multiple Styles

203 – Dillon Napier: Drumming for Grammy-Nominated Margo Price, Recording at Sun Studios, The Benefits of Learning Multiple Styles

For over 10 years, Dillon Napier has been the drummer for Grammy Nominated artist Margo Price. From performing at the O2 in London and Red Rocks in Colorado, to performing on multiple TV shows including Saturday Night Live, Margo’s success in recent years has afforded Dillon many unique and bucket list opportunities with many more to come. You can hear Dillon on Margo’s 2016 record, Midwest Farmer’s Daughter as well as the recording, All American Made from 2017 that features Willie Nelson on one track. Well before his work with Margo, Dillon was already a familiar face behind the drums in Nashville’s most popular rock clubs, honky tonk bars, and studios. Dillon has been a go-to hired gun on record and on the road for country, rock, and Americana artists such as Chris Knight, Caitlin Rose, Patrick Sweany, Sonia Leigh, and many more. In this episode, Dillon talks about: * Working with Margo Price * The subtle intricacies of traditional country drumming  * The benefits of learning different styles  * Recording at Sun Studio * Feeling the positive influence of JJ Johnson’s drumming * Recognizing the difference between a good drummer and a great drummer Dillon endorses: Sabian Cymbals, Promark sticks, Evans drumheads, Sakae drums
01:28:5631/01/2019
202 – Bob Knight Part II: Building a Live Resume, What Your IG Feed Tells Employers, TV Gigs

202 – Bob Knight Part II: Building a Live Resume, What Your IG Feed Tells Employers, TV Gigs

Bob Knight was our guest on episode 165 and was so informative and entertaining, we had to go back for more. Bob lives in London where he commands somewhat of a dual career, both as an in-demand drummer and a music agent or “fixer,” matching musicians with bands or artists who need backing. He graduated from the jazz program at the prestigious Royal Academy of Music in London and has gone on to work with some of the biggest names in pop music including Sting, Cee-Lo Green, Charlotte Church, and Jennifer Hudson. His company, BEK Music, has provided musicians for a huge variety of acts from Andrea Bocelli to Eminem. In this episode, Bob talks about: * Custom-building a new practice/rehearsal studio * Being a session drummer week in, week out vs. casting yourself that way on social media * The results of a few months of intensified practicing * Being more committed, confident, and consistent in his timekeeping, and the positive response it’s gotten * The Yamaha EAD10 * Using social media to shine a light on others, and how social media factors into his hiring decisions * “Not playing” with Sting, the other artists he’s done sideline TV gigs with, and the prep involved with that kind of gig * His most recent TV gig as drummer and M.D. on Celebrity Game Night * Not taking himself seriously while taking what he does seriously * The strategy in turning down certain gigs, even when you’re available * His thoughts on the ”tribute” trend This episode is sponsored by Motion Pro Drum Thrones
01:15:5624/01/2019
201 – Drummers Fitness Round Table: Danny Elliott, Mark Poiesz, Matt Iceman, Dave McAfee and Corbin Cagle

201 – Drummers Fitness Round Table: Danny Elliott, Mark Poiesz, Matt Iceman, Dave McAfee and Corbin Cagle

In this episode we share stories and experiences of five accomplished drummers who maintain standard fitness practices as part of their daily and weekly routines. This roundtable includes Matt Iceman – (David Nail), Dave McAfee – (Toby Keith), Corbin Cagle – (indépendent), Mark Poiesz – (Tyler Farr), and helping to moderate the conversation is fitness expert and life coach Danny Elliott. Danny is a drummer and owner at Heart Body Soul.  In this episode, the roundtable talks about:  * What each of them is doing to stay healthy and their personal journey  * Matt Iceman talks about losing over 110 pounds  * The importance of nutrition in conjunction with exercise  * “You can’t out-exercise a bad diet” – Matt Iceman * Misconceptions about products that claim to be healthy * How your exercise routine changes as you age  * Back pain * Warm up routines and staying hydrated * The power of a healthy mental attitude  * The benefits of a daily meditation practice  * Substance abuse and it’s adverse effects  * Self awareness This episode is sponsored by Motion Pro Drum Thrones 
01:33:0918/01/2019
200 – Chris McHugh, “Best Of” Roundtable: Seth Rausch, Harry Miree, Travis McNabb & Hubert Payne

200 – Chris McHugh, “Best Of” Roundtable: Seth Rausch, Harry Miree, Travis McNabb & Hubert Payne

To celebrate our 200th episode, we invited four of our favorite past guests – Seth Rausch, Travis McNabb, Hubert Payne, and Harry Miree – to participate in a roundtable discussion. We then did an extended interview with Chris McHugh. The show was recorded and filmed at The Drum Pad in Nashville at Drum Paradise. Seth Rausch is a skillful drummer currently working as the touring drummer for Keith Urban. Other artists he’s worked for include Gary Allan, Joe Nichols, Phil Vassar, and Little Big Town. While he was with Little Big Town, he had the opportunity to record on two of their records and work with producer Jay Joyce. He continues to collaborate and record with some of Nashville’s top writers, musicians, and producers. Travis McNabb is best known as a longtime member of the band Better Than Ezra, and brings his style and integrity to every situation. In mid-2007, He became the full-time touring and recording drummer with Grammy-award winning act Sugarland. He puts his years of recording and engineering experience to use in his own home studio and in recent years he’s been the drummer for country artist, Frankie Ballard. Hubert Payne excelled at football in high school and college and won two State Championships. His athletic skills as well as superb drumming skills continue to inspire. He has worked with many nationally-touring country artists that include Love & Theft, David Nail, Casey James, and since early 2015, Little Big Town. Harry Miree has built a successful YouTube channel where he covers many topics like “The True Life of a Side Musician, Open Handed Techniques, alternatives to playing a Cajon and many other useful videos. He has over 76,000 subscribers and is currently the touring drummer for LoCash. In this podcast, the roundtable panel talks about: * Goals and intentions for 2019 * Physical and psychological challenges * What listening means to them * Memorable mistakes and lessons learned from them Chris McHugh is one of the most sought-after drummers in the Nashville recording scene. His playing can be heard on thousands of recordings dating back to the mid-1980s. He has worked with some of the biggest names in music, including Keith Urban, Rascal Flatts, Michael Bolton, Blake Shelton, Toby Keith, LeAnn Rimes, Brooks & Dunn, Reba McIntire, Faith Hill, Kenny Rogers, Jars of Clay, Trace Adkins, Jewel, Garth Brooks, Carrie Underwood, Kelly Clarkson, Lionel Richie, and countless others. In this podcast, Chris talks about: * How his playing has changed conceptually over the years * What it means for your playing to have character * Being mentored by Larry Londin, and the current state of mentorship in Nashville * The homogenization of the recording industry (Nashville vs. L.A.) *
01:25:2616/01/2019
199 – Dusty Simmons: Playing with The Cris Jacobs Band, The Richmond Renaissance, Concepts from a Self-Taught Drummer

199 – Dusty Simmons: Playing with The Cris Jacobs Band, The Richmond Renaissance, Concepts from a Self-Taught Drummer

Dusty Simmons was born and raised in Richmond, VA, which he still calls home. He tours and records with The Cris Jacobs Band, and is part of multiple projects in Richmond. Dusty’s dad is a musician and had a garage full of instruments when Dusty was a kid. This is where and when Dusty began learning about music, and he was gigging by his sophomore year in high school. It has been non-stop gigging since then, be it in bands on the road and in the studio, in music stores, or as a drum tech and audio engineer. During his adult life, he has seen an explosion of art and music in Richmond, driven by locally grown creatives, locally owned and operated venues, labels, studios, and the prestigious art school at Virginia Commonwealth University. In this podcast, Dusty talks about * His main gig with the Cris Jacobs Band * His three Richmond-based tribute projects * Secretly practicing on his dad’s gear as a kid * The vibrant music and arts scene in Richmond * His Instagram Live show, “Diggin’ with Dusty” * How he learned to conceptualize drumming and music as a self-taught * The early experience that turned him off from formal music education * Thinking of a groove to a dance * Teching for Lamb of God’s Chris Adler *
01:37:3920/12/2018
198 – Rod Morgenstein: Drumming for The Dixie Dregs, Winger, The Steve Morse Band

198 – Rod Morgenstein: Drumming for The Dixie Dregs, Winger, The Steve Morse Band

Rod Morgenstein’s unique, dynamic and musical drumming style has led to Rod’s winning the Best Progressive Rock Drummer award in Modern Drummer Magazine’s Reader’s Poll 5 years in a row (1986-1990) and Best All-Around Drummer (1999), earning him a permanent position in the magazine’s prestigious Honor Roll. Rod was a founding member of the groundbreaking group the Dixie Dregs. Rod is also very well known as a member of the award winning rock group Winger. These two groups have reunited in recent years and continue to tour regularly.   Other projects that Rod has been involved with are The Steve Morse band, The Rudess/Morgenstein Project, the jam band Jazz Is Dead, Platypus, whose two recordings feature John Myung (Dream Theater), Ty Tabor (King’s X) and Derek Sherinian (Planet X) as well as an offshoot of Platypus, The Jelly Jam, a power trio featuring Rod, Ty Tabor and John Myung. In addition to his recording and touring credits, Rod is very active in drum education. He recently retired from the position of Professor of Percussion at Berklee College of Music in Boston, Mass. Also, his highly recognized instructional materials include videos, audio cassettes and books. His most recent offering is Drum Set Warm-Ups, touted as the definitive text for developing and improving all aspects of drum set playing. In this episode, Rod talks about:  * Diversifying your workload * How his teaching position came about at the Berklee College of Music * The early years of the Dixie Dregs  * The unique challenges the Dixie Dregs faced within the music business * The Steve Morse band opening up for Rush in 1985  * The awesome story of what lead to Rod playing on the Burning for Buddy project * His audition for Winger * His audition for Journey in 1986 * Taking chances on stage and the benefits of his book: “Drum Set Warm-Ups” * Developing Berklee online courses https://online.berklee.edu/courses/rock-drums
01:31:2213/12/2018
197 – Kevin Leon: Touring with St. Paul & The Broken Bones, Creative Pursuit vs. “Work,” Groove is Groove is Groove

197 – Kevin Leon: Touring with St. Paul & The Broken Bones, Creative Pursuit vs. “Work,” Groove is Groove is Groove

Kevin Leon has been on the Atlanta scene for nearly a decade and recently landed the touring gig with St. Paul & The Broken Bones. Kevin grew up in Birmingham, AL. He studied music at The University of Alabama at Birmingham and got a fast start playing all kinds of gigs on the Birmingham scene. After school, he moved to New York for a year and returned to Birmingham when it became clear he didn’t have the inclination (or the money) to live there long term. He then landed a gig with country artist Niko Moon, which brought him to Atlanta, where he has been active ever since with singer/songwriters, jazz artists, and corporate bands. He is also part owner of Music Lessons Decatur, a local teaching network. In this podcast, Kevin talks about: The somewhat emergency process by which he joined St. Paul His relationships with Chris Fryar and Harry Miree Exploring his non-musical outlet, fishing, on the road Gearing up to be the primary breadwinner when his girlfriend went to grad school Filling your schedule with “work” vs. keeping it open for creative projects Lessons learned when the gig that brought him to Atlanta ended abruptly The experience that made him realize making 2 & 4 feel good required as deep a dive as jazz A snapshot of his hometown, Birmingham Publishing videos (and an eventual album) of his original compositions, and his thoughts on managing his output Kevin Leon endorses Vic Firth sticks
01:46:1106/12/2018