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With close to 500 episodes and counting, Working Drummer Podcast is the source for those interested in what it’s like to be a professional drummer. Hosted by Matthew Crouse and Zack Albetta, Working Drummer covers it all with a dynamic range of pro drummers who represent many different genres and scenes. Each weekly interview features a different performer, sometimes with a less recognizable name, but always with an impressive and distinct body of work. This unique approach has garnered a loyal audience hungry for unfiltered stories about making a living as a musician today.
296 – Peter Erskine: Tools for Remote Work, Enjoying Life Off the Road, Creativity Through Subtraction
Peter Erskine is a drumming legend and a friend of WDP. He has appeared on WDP more than any other drummer, and for good reason. As we near the end of 2020, Peter shares how the year has affected him as a performer and educator. On November 21 and 22, he’ll be performing a livestream concert as part of Drumhead Live https://live.champion.biz/. In this episode, Peter talks about
* How he adapted his home studio into a multi-cam, multi mic teaching suite* Using the virtual platform to help his students up their audio game* Things he misses and doesn’t miss about pre-COVID times* The psychological shift he made partway through the pandemic * His upcoming livestream performance for Drumhead Live https://live.champion.biz/* Improving through subtraction rather than addition* An engineer’s mixing trick * His new Tama signature snare
Peter endorses Tama drums, Zildjian cymbals, Vic Firth sticks, Remo heads, Roland V-Drums, Meinl percussion, and Zoom recorders
This episode is sponsored by Shure Microphones. Check out the featured mic bundle DMK57-52
01:30:1419/11/2020
295 – Miles McPherson: Building a Creative Sound Design Library, Early Studio Opportunities, Touring with Paramore and Kelly Clarkson
Miles McPherson moved to Nashville in 1986, when his father, Jerry, relocated the family there so he could work in the studios as a session guitarist. When he was still touring, Miles played with Kelly Clarkson, Paramore, Tonic, and Better Than Ezra. In 2013, he came off the road to pursue being a session drummer full time. In the studio Miles has worked notable artists such as Reba McEntire, Rascall Flatts, Chris Young, Kelly Clarkson, Tyler Farr, Lee Brice, Chase Rice, Jeremy Camp, James Otto and many others. In 2017 he was awarded drummer of the year by the Academy of Country Music.
In this episode, Miles talks about:
* Building a usable sound library from unconventional things* Staying busy during the Covid crisis* Growing up with a father who was a professional session guitarist * Touring with Paramore and Kelly Clarkson* Surviving a horrific golf cart crash
This episode is sponsored by Shure Microphones. Check out the featured mic bundle DMK57-52
Miles endorses: Yamaha drums, Meinl Cymbals, and Vater drumsticks.
01:20:3612/11/2020
294 – Tony Coleman: An Encyclopedia of Blues & Soul, Playing with B.B. King and Bobby Blue Bland, Demystifying the Shuffle
Tony Coleman has played with Blues and Soul legends such as B.B. King, Bobby Blue Bland, Buddy Guy, Albert Collins, and many, MANY others. Over his long career, Tony has lived in Chicago, Memphis, and Texas, and the succession of artists and regions he’s gone through have made him a unique authority on many sub-styles of blues and soul drumming. In recent years, he has also toured with country artist Jamey Johnson.
In this episode, Tony talks about:
* The importance Black culture places on arranging a show, not just songs* How exhibitionism detracts from music* Looking down on the Blues in his younger years, and how B.B. King changed his mind* Some of the differences in Blues and shuffle styles between Chicago, Memphis, and Texas * Understanding a culture in order to master its musical styles
Tony endorses Mapex drums, Sabian cymbals, Remo drumheads, Vater drumsticks, Audix mics, Gon Bops percussion, Jerry Harvey in-ears, and DW pedals.
01:29:0105/11/2020
293 – Robyn Flans: Author of “It’s About Time: Jeff Porcaro, The Man and His Music,” Her Early Days at Modern Drummer
As an entertainment journalist for more than 40 years, Robyn Flans has worked for such diverse publications as People Magazine, In Touch, Mix, Modern Drummer, Country Weekly and a daily newspaper. She has authored four music books, written numerous bios, electronic press kits, including cut by cuts for artists, and album liner notes. She has a new book about Jeff Porcaro that only someone as close to Jeff as she was could write.
Links to Robyn and the book:
Robyn Flans Drummer Interviews
Robyn Flans Media
Jeff Porcaro Book
In this episode, Robyn talks about:
* Her early days at Modern Drummer* Her book about Jeff Porcaro* Getting Jeff on the cover of Modern Drummer* Jeff’s influence on music today* The sadness of finishing the book
01:04:3029/10/2020
292 – Andrew Atkinson: Playing with Oz Noy and Gregory Porter, Building a Foundation in Miami, Becoming an Individual in New York
Andrew Atkinson’s drumming draws on the seductive beats of his native Jamaica, the percolating rhythms of his childhood home Miami, and the world of jazz that has beckoned and captivated him in all his travels. Highlights of his resume include guitarist Oz Noy, vocalist Gregory Porter, and steel pan player Othello Molineux.
After graduating high school, Atkinson would find himself becoming one of the most in demand young drummers in Miami, playing with every type of band imaginable. With reggae-ska band The Monjees, Atkinson got his first taste of life on the road by performing on the 2002 Warped Tour and opening for James Brown at the 2002 Sunfest. Of course, he stuck close to jazz, his first musical love, and wound up doing gigs with luminaries such as Randy Brecker, Arturo Sandoval, Danilio Perez, and Donald Harrison.
Andrew moved to New York in 2011, where he has played with many of the biggest names in jazz, subbed on Broadway musicals including “Hamilton” and “Ain’t Too Proud,” and will be the full time drummer for a new musical currently in development.
In this episode, Andrew talks about
* How he came to the drums through a middle school scheduling error* His early career in Miami playing Reggae, Punk, Ska, Salsa, Timba, and Jazz * Being attracted to New York’s celebration of individual artistic voices, and wanting to develop his there* Going out every night (literally) his first year in New York to learn the scene and make contacts* How to be a drummer that singers like* Adapting to Broadway’s detail-oriented culture
Andrew endorses Vic Firth sticks, Sabian cymbals, Sonor drums, and Westone in-ears.
01:14:0822/10/2020
291 – Mike Dawson: The New Modern Drummer Podcast, Continuing to Learn in all Stages of Life, Effective Use of Time
Michael Dawson is a New Jersey–based drummer, educator, and clinician and is currently managing editor for Modern Drummer, the world’s most widely read magazine exclusively for drummers. Dawson produced and co-hosted the industry-leading weekly podcast, The Modern Drummer Podcast With Mike and Mike, along with renowned online educator/clinician Mike Johnston. 2020 is bringing a new, interview based podcast called The Modern Drummer Podcast.
Additionally, Mike serves as book editor for Modern Drummer Publications, with most releases including Progressive Drumming Essentials by drummer/educator Aaron Edgar, Rhythm and Chops Builders and Stick Technique by rudimental specialist Bill Bachman, and Exercises in African-American Funk by top touring drummer Jonathan Joseph and University of Miami faculty member Steve Rucker. In the pages of MD, Michael has authored dozens of artist features, educational columns, and product reviews.
Dawson has a bachelor’s degree in music education from West Virginia University and a master’s degree in music from the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He’s a senior lecturer in music journalism and drumset at the UArts, and he operates a recording studio out of his home in New Jersey, where he tracks drums and percussion remotely for artists around the globe. Michael was a regular sub for the drumset chair in the hit Broadway musical The Lion King.
In this episode, Mike talks about:
* Effective time management* Drawing inspiration from the community at Modern Drummer Magazine* The ability to grow as a player through all stages of life* How to inspire and be honest when teaching* The creation of the Neil Peart MD tribute issue* The new Modern Drummer Podcast
This episode is sponsored by Beier Drums
01:14:3215/10/2020
290 – Billy Brimblecom: Losing a Leg to Cancer, Moving from KC to Nashville and Back, Heading Up the Steps of Faith Foundation
Billy Brimblecom’s career has taken him from drumming to philanthropy, and from his hometown of Kansas City to Nashville, and back to Kansas City. Over his 25 year career, Billy has manned the drum chair for Blackpool Lights, The Start, The Creature Comforts, and Summer Breeze.
In early 2005 Brimblecom learned he a form of cancer in his leg called Ewing’s sarcoma.[2] This resulted in his left leg being amputated above the knee. After 13 rounds of chemotherapy and a few months of rehab, Brimblecom re-joined Blackpool Lights and returned to touring ( with a prosthetic leg) in March 2006. Brimblecom and the band did extensive tours of the U.S., Canada and Japan as well as support slots for Social Distortion, Anberlin, Angels and Airwaves.
Brimblecom relocated to Nashville in 2009 where he did session work with producer/songwriter Don Chaffer (of Waterdeep) and Greg LaFollette. During this time, he also founded the Steps of Faith Foundation, which helps amputees get the prosthetics they need.
Billy and his family returned to Kansas City in 2017, where he has continued both his philanthropic and musical endeavors. Since 2017, he has partnered with his fellow Kansas Citian and high school friend Jason Sudeikis to produce Thundergong, a live benefit for Steps of Faith which featured performances by a host of big names including Ben Harper, Fred Armisen, Wynona Judd, and The Get Up Kids.
In this episode, Billy talks about:
* The challenges of playing Yacht Rock* Merging his old life in full time music with his new life in philanthropy* How he moved forward physically, emotionally, and practically after losing his left leg* What attracted him to Nashville, and why he ultimately returned home to Kansas City* Becoming the Executive Director of the Steps of Faith Foundation, and how he has fused that role with his identity as a drummer and his expertise in the music business* Thundergong – a yearly fundraiser event he coproduces with Jason Sudeikis
01:22:0208/10/2020
289 – Jason Cooper: Balancing the “Day Gig” with a Thriving Home Studio, Cymbals that Work in the Studio, The Good & Bad of Social Media
Jason Cooper is a native of Memphis TN and played his first professional gig at 11 years old. Since then, he has gone on to play in many local bands and has travelled the country playing for numerous acts. He has also played in almost 40 professional theater productions including Dream Girls, Footloose, The Sound of Music, Mary Poppins and Into the Woods. He has also done numerous recording sessions for artists in the US, Canada and throughout Europe. Jason worked at the Memphis Drum shop from 1999 to 2006. While at Memphis Drumshop, he teched for Dennis Chambers, Sonny Emory, Herman Matthews, Alex Acuna, Billy Ward, Peter Erskine, Will Kennedy, Virgil Donati, Akira Jimbo Keith Carlock and many others. He even changed a drumhead for Tony Williams once. – Very cool.
After many years of slugging away in the unpredictable world of the music business, Jason decided to take a break from it all and go back to school and earn a degree that lead to a job as an x-ray technician. Today he splits his time between his “day job” and maintaining a solid roster of clients from all over the world providing drum tracks from his home studio – Old Lantern Studio. A project of note includes the Neal Bowen Trio which will have an EP out soon.
In this episode, Jason talks about:
* Working as an x-ray technician and leaving room for drumming * His decision to go back to school and get a “day job”* Learning to produce the best drum tracks he can from his home studio* Cymbal selection in the studio* The good and the bad of social media
This episode is sponsored by Beier Drums
01:39:2401/10/2020
288 – Adam Alesi: L.A. Gigs of All Shapes and Sizes, A Few Key Relationships, Taking Big Studio Experience into the Home Studio
Drummer Adam Alesi is in high demand for session and live work in Los Angeles and around the greater Southern California region. As a student of drum legend Gregg Bissonette (and later as Gregg’s drum tech), Adam learned how to connect with music and musicians on a personal and emotional level. Like his mentor, he has made taste and versatility his hallmarks.
One of Adam’s longest musical relationships has been with veteran pianist/composer/producer Geoff Stradling. Adam has been Geoff’s first call for over a decade, and the two have worked on countless recording projects together including Mad Men, the Golden Globe Awards, the SAG Awards, and Geoff’s original big band, The Stradband. Another decade-plus tenure Adam maintains is with the all-pro band that supports Burbank High School’s show choir, In Sync. The group is nationally competitive, perennially award-winning, and served as the model for the hit Fox series Glee.
Adam’s other credits for film and TV include the IMAX original film Pandaswith composer Mark Mothersbaugh, and a national Samsung ad campaign featuring Rihanna. He has performed regularly with numerous big band legends including Grammy Award winner Gordon Goodwin and Tonight Show composer/arranger Mike Barone. Over his 15-year career, Adam has also performed with legendary artists across many genres including Aretha Franklin, Richard Carpenter, and David Benoit.
In this episode, Adam talks about:
* Getting a jump on the home studio game before COVID* File management skills and other ways he’s improved his workflow* Becoming the go-to drummer for Hollywood composers Geoff Stradling and Mike Barone* What he’s learned through his long relationship with Gregg Bissonette * His experience playing in the Pixarmonic Orchestra at Disneyland California Adventure* Drumming and contracting the band for Burbank High School’s nationally competitive show choir
Adam endorses Dixon drums, Sabian cymbals, Aquarian drumheads, Vanguard Audio Labs microphones, and Presonus Audio Electronics
This episode is sponsored by Beier Drums.
01:23:4224/09/2020
287 – Neil LaFortune: Hosting the “Gretsch Afternoon Drum Break”, Working with Tribute Acts, Adapting to the Socioeconomic Climate of Your Scene
Neil LaFortune has covered many styles throughout the years from Classic Rock, Funk, R&B, Country, Latin, Pop, Jazz, and Blues based cover bands, to original acts. Studies at Ontario College of Percussion in Toronto and later studies with Jim Blackley helped prepare Neil for professional settings that required reading and versatility.
The last several years Neil has been busy with Tribute acts such as Abba Revisited, Police tribute “Message In A Bottle,” as well as many other tributes in the U.S. and abroad. Neil’s work included gigs with his duo Sticks and Tones as well as rising Canadian country singer Meghan Patrick opening for the likes of Rascal Flatts, Dwight Yoakam and Kiefer Sutherland. In 2020 Neil started hosting his weekly interview series called the Gretsch Afternoon Drum Break.
Teaching is another passion and Neil teaches lots of private lessons at home and does clinics and workshops locally and abroad. His teaching efforts earned him the Drummers Choice’s Teacher of The Year in 2003.
In this episode, Neil talks about:
* Differences between the music scenes in Canada compared to the U.S. * Hosting the “Gretsch Afternoon Drum Break” * Navigating the world of endorsements * Adapting to the socioeconomic climate of your scene* Working with tribute acts* Good health after 50
This episode is sponsored by Beier Drums
Neil proudly endorses: Gretsch drums, Dream Cymbals and Regal Tip products
01:27:0817/09/2020
286 – Cooking Drummers: Marcus Finnie and Zack Albetta Talk Food
Marcus Finnie and Zack Albetta both have a deep and abiding passion for food and cooking. So since a lot of us are probably doing more cooking these days, we wanted to talk what we’ve been up to in the kitchen, share some resources, recipes, tips, tricks, and hacks, in hopes that it will inspire some others to push their kitchen game a little higher.
In this episode, Marcus and Zack talk about
* What got them into cooking* The importance of quality, sharp knives, and the difference between sharpening and honing* Pans: the versatility of non-stick, and moving on to stainless steel, carbon steel, and cast iron* Cooking for kids and how to make delicious veggies* A few basic tips to make simple things like pasta or roast chicken AWESOME* Venturing into baking* Parallels between cooking and music
Links to stuff we talked about:
Smitten Kitchen
The Paprika III recipe organization app
“Ruhlman’s Twenty” Cookbook
Instant Pot
Knives: Shun, Wustoff, Global, Cutco
This episode is sponsored by Beier Drums
02:02:2210/09/2020
285 – Mike Hansen: Recording the New Hurricane Album, “Cross-blending” with Acoustic and Electronic Drums, Covering Ted McKenna’s Drum Parts on a Rory Gallagher Tour
Originally from Chicago and spending over 35 years and in the Los Angeles music scene, Mike Hansen had the opportunity to work with many great artists such as the band Hurricane, Steve Vai, George Lynch, Doug Pinnick of kings X fame, The Pointer Sisters, Albert Lea, the band tribe after tribe and many others.He’s been spending this last year living in Chicago taking care of his parents and tending to his fathers needs who’s been suffering from cancer. His father was an important figure in Mike’s musical development as his father was a professional guitar player and exposed Mike to many great musicians and opportunities throughout his life.
In this episode, Mike talks about:
* Working “non-music” gigs * The influence of his father* Using the Roland TM-6 drum module to mix with his acoustic kit live and when recording* Recording the new Hurricane record* Covering Ted McKenna’s drum parts on a Rory Gallagher tour* Working with Dug Pinnick* Touring in the mid-80’s
This episode is sponsored by Beier drums
Mike endorses: Aquarian drum heads, Sawtooth Drums, Soundbrenner, Kickport, Beier Drums, JBL, Cymbal Sox, Techra drumsticks, ChromaCast and Chicago Drum company
01:30:0603/09/2020
284 – Christopher Allis: The Never-Ending Journey of Home Recording, Reassessing Our Relationship with Music, Balancing Career and Caregiving
Christopher Allis has been active on the LA scene for over a decade doing session, touring, commercial and jingle work. He has lent his talents for TV spots for Coca-Cola, Discovery Channel, and others. His playing can also be heard a variety of commercial music for shows including “Smash”, “The Voice”, “True Blood”, “Sons of Anarchy”, “Buffy The Vampire Slayer”, and a variety of children and young adult shows on ABC, ABC Family, Nickelodeon, and the Disney Channel. Film music includes “Planes – Fire and Rescue”, “The Hills Have Eyes”, and overdub sessions for the James Bond films “Gold Finger”, “The Man With the Golden Gun”, and “Dr. No”.
His latest touring stints have been with Deanna Carter and Michael Nesmith. He has also entered the world of academia as a special guest lecturer at the USC Thornton School of Music where we works with production classes to discuss and demonstrate modern studio drumming techniques.
In this episode, Christopher talks about:
* Tailoring your home recording rig to your skill level and your target market* The flexibility of minimal mic’ing techniques* Acquiring recording gear that you’ll grow into * His listening habits during COVID* Leaning into a particular aesthetic to find his place on the LA scene* Reassessing what we really want out of music and how to get it* How his life and career have changed as a result of his wife’s ongoing battle with cancer* Not asking “why?” but rather, “what now?”
Christopher endorses Ludwig drums, Istanbul Agop Cymbals, Remo Drum Heads, Vater drumsticks, Canopus Snare Wires and Accessories, Big Fat Snare Drum, Snare Weight, SKB Cases, Yamaha DTX Electronic Drums, andToontrack software.
02:03:4627/08/2020
283 – Danny Gottlieb: New Duo Record with Mark Egan, Drumming for Pat Metheny, Studying with Joe Morello
Danny Gottlieb is one of the most popular drummers in jazz and contemporary music. While best known as the drummer in the original Pat Metheny Group, of which he was a member for six years, Danny, during the past 30 years, has performed and recorded with some of the world’s greatest musicians including Airto and Flora Purim Group, Al DiMeola Project, Blues Brothers Band, Bobby McFerrin Trio, Elements (co-leader with Mark Egan), Gary Burton Quartet, Gil Evans Orchestra, WDR Big Band, Gary Sinise’s band: Lt Dan Band and many more.
Danny has been on the covers of Modern Drummer, Down Beat, Drums and Percussion, Rhythm, and Drum Scene magazines.
In this episode, Danny talks about:
* Teaching at the University of North Florida* The multicultural experiences of music * Drumming with the Pat Metheny Group* Recording in the late 70’s* The new recording “Electric Blue” with Mark Egan* Reflecting on Lyle Mays* Studying with Joe Morello * Drumming for the Gary Sinise’s band: Lt Dan Band
Find the new recording here: https://markegan.com/wavetone
This episode is sponsored by Beier Drums
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Danny currently endorses: Zildjian Cymbals, Remo Drum Heads, Basix Drums, Hot Sticks, Eames Drum Shells, Calato Brushes, Vic Firth Mallets, Alternate Mode-Kat products, Shure Microphones, Hammerax Products.
01:50:2320/08/2020
282 – Jack Jones: Making YouTube Videos with Rick Beato, Diving Into Creativity and Improv During COVID, Playing in a Hard-Working Cover Band
Jack Jones has been performing and teaching music for 25 years. Jack has has toured the U.S. and Japan extensively with jam band luminary Col. Bruce Hampton, Texas Blues artist Chris Duarte, and Blair Crimmins and the Hookers. In 2019, Jack was featured in YouTube music channel host, Rick Beato’s videos, Top 20 Drum Intros of All Time and Top 20 Drum Fills of All Time, which have collectively received more than 3 million views. He has a B.M. in Music Education from the University of LA at Monroe, and a Masters Degree in Jazz Studies from Georgia State University, and he has worked with many local and national artists such as Scott Henderson, Keven Bales, and the Joe Gransden Big Band. He is currently the full time drummer with The Mike Veal Band, a well known Atlanta cover band. He also composes music and leads his own project, The Jack Jones Trio, a jazz trio with which he will be recording in the coming year.
In this episode, Jack talks about:
* Using the last few months to explore his creative process and improvisatory instincts* Planting seeds for a collection of original compositions* Trying to find a “free” state of mind in musical situations with defined parameters * Rick Beato’s in-the-moment approach to producing his Youtube videos* His main live gig with the Mike Veal Band, a long-time Atlanta favorite
This episode is sponsored by Beier Drums
Check out Troy Lucketta rocking the Beier 4 x 15 snare here
01:04:4313/08/2020
281 – Stephen Taylor: Stephen’s Drum Shed, New and Creative Ways to Teach Drums, Staying Focused on Family while Building a Career in Music
Stephen Taylor is the founder and owner of StephensDrumShed.com as well as the creator of the Drum Better Daily system. The website is membership based and offers a way to learn the drums online in an organized and goal oriented fashion. Stephen has written three drum method books and also offers downloadable video drum lesson packs and individual lessons on his site.
Stephen began playing professionally at the age of 16. During his formative years, he studied under drumming phenom Henrique De Almeida (Current Associate Professor of Percussion at Berklee College of Music). In his late teens and early twenties, he cut his teeth playing nightly in clubs on Bourbon Street, in New Orleans, LA. After three years of gigging up to ten hour days, he relocated to pursue his education. While obtaining his degree in Jazz Studies from the University of Southern Mississippi, he studied under Dr. John Wooton.
Stephen currently maintains a busy teaching and playing schedule in Nashville, TN. He has played and toured with independent and major label artists including Danielle Peck (Big Machine Records), Jason Jones(Warner Music), Meshach Jackson, and many others. In late 2008, Stephen began playing with an original project, Lovers and Liars. They signed with Universal Republic Records between 2010 and 2011, had several songs featured on MTV, and had the opportunity to share the stage with Hoobastank, Finger Eleven, Civil Twilight, Candlebox, Hurt, Cavo, Hinder, Fuel, Eve 6, Hawthorne Heights, Red, Thriving Ivory, Theory of a Deadman, Saving Abel, Framing Hanley, 10 Years, Seether, Shinedown, and many others. Stephen also has a passion for teaching with current and past students having achieved or been featured on MTV, NBC, The Grammies, VH1, The Real World, the Dove Awards, and various college scholarships. In addition, Stephen was part of a feature article in the October 2013 issue of DRUM! Magazine entitled “The Drum Stars of You Tube”.
In this episode, Stephen talks about:
* His online drum school: Stephens Drum Shed* Finding new and creative ways to teach drums* Lear...
01:38:1706/08/2020
280 – Beth Goodfellow: Loops and Layers with Drums, Percussion, and Voice, How COVID will Effect the Lives and Livelihoods of Working Musicians
Beth Goodfellow is an LA-based drummer, percussionist, and vocalist. She studied classical percussion at San Jose State while playing gigs around the San Francisco Bay Area, simultaneously serving as a drummer in the California Air National Guard Band of the West Coast. While residing in San Francisco Elizabeth appeared on two episodes of America’s Got Talent as a drummer in The Emily Anne Band and subsequently relocated to Los Angeles. Since moving to L.A. Elizabeth has released two albums of her original music, recorded with artists including Boygenius, Per Gessle, and Crossrecord, and has toured with Iron & Wine and Madison Cunningham.
In this episode, Beth talks about:
* Her varied background of drumset, percussion, classical music, musical theatre, military band, and songwriting* What leading creative projects taught her about working as a side player on others’, and vice versa* The National Independent Venue Association* The Restart Act* The questions musicians need to be asking ourselves, each other, and our employers during and after COVID* How Ableton aligned perfectly with the layered and looped way she likes to make music
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01:23:4430/07/2020
279 – Eric Darken: Percussionist, Composer, Performing with Jimmy Buffett, From Congas to the Garden Weasel
For over 30 years Eric Darken has worked as a studio and touring percussionist for some of the biggest bands and artists in the world. Just a few of his recording credits includes Taylor Swift, BonJovi, Jewel, James Bay, Maren Morris, Bob Seger, Carrie Underwood, The Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir and new artists Carly Pearce and Moon Taxi.
Eric has traveled around the world and throughout the United States performing with artists such as Vince Gill, Amy Grant, Faith Hill, Take 6 and Bob Seger. He currently tours with Jimmy Buffett and The Coral Reefer Band and frequently performs live with Mac McAnally.
An accomplished composer and producer, Eric has written original underscores for TV and film. These shows include Dateline NBC, 20/20, Fox Sports, the Discovery Channel, The NFL Network, National Geographic and the film, The Fantastic Four – Rise of the Silver Surfer. Other projects include A Drummer Boy’s Christmas and Sunday Drive.
In this episode, Eric talks about:
* Taking advantage of the downtime to grow, learn, write and record from home* “Owning the instrument” learning all the tones and possibilities an instrument can deliver* Working with Jimmy Buffett* Creating percussion parts that are felt but not always heard* From household items to gardening tools to create percussion sounds * Building a sample library
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Eric endorses Meinl Percussion, Paiste Cymbals, Mike Balter Mallets, The Trashkat and Shure Microphones
01:47:5723/07/2020
278 – Rudy Royston: An Album of Solo Drumming, Storytelling on the Drumset
First-call New York drummer Rudy Royston has honed a thoroughly engaging voice as a composer and bandleader, and has also performed as a sideman with Dave Douglas, Bill Frisell, and many other jazz greats. His releases include his compelling debut ‘303’ (2014), the raw and bracing trio follow-up ‘Rise of Orion’ (2016) and the chamber quintet release ‘Flatbed Buggy’ (2018). His latest release, “PaNOptic,” is a collection of four suites for solo drumset, the proceeds of which are going to MusiCares to benefit musicians in need during the pandemic. Check it out
In this episode, Rudy talks about:
* The making of his new record* Communicating emotional or story-driven ideas on the drumset* How Denver shaped his development as a student and young professional* How gospel and jazz share an “in the moment” ethos* What he took from his experience as a public school music teacher
Rudy endorses Canopus drums, Vic Firth sticks, Gibraltar hardware, and Sabian cymbals.
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01:17:5516/07/2020
277 – Allen Jones: Drumming for Will Hoge, “DIY Touring”, Horror Stories from the Road
Growing up in southern Mississippi, Allen Jones spend his formative years creating his own music career through “DIY touring” and discovering his love of music and drumming. Since his move to Nashville, Tennessee he has played and/or recorded with Americana singer/songwriter Will Hoge and Lilly Hiatt, among others.
In this episode, Allen talks about:
* Tapping into the underground music scene even from a small town in Mississippi* “DIY Touring”* Growing your music community organically * Horror stories from the road* Moving to Nashville* Being excited about the music you’re playing * Recording the last two Will Hoge records
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Allen endorses Sabian Cymbals and Evans Drumheads
01:58:1009/07/2020
276 – Otis Brown III: Playing with Esperanza Spalding and Joe Lovano, The New School Environment, Racial Justice in Jazz
Otis Brown III is a Grammy-nominated jazz drummer, composer, and recording artist who is a go-to session and touring sideman. He is best-known for his work with Joe Lovano in Us Five, and Esperanza Spalding, though he has been on dozens of sessions and is as noteworthy for backing singers as he is instrumentalists.
Brown III was born in Hackensack, New Jersey. His mother was a vocal music teacher and choir director, and his father a school band instructor and noted percussionist who played with Al Green and James Brown.
The younger Brown III began his musical studies on alto saxophone at the age of seven under his father’s tutelage, and showed early promise. He played not only in school but in church. After moving to Newark where he attended high school, he played alto in jazz orchestra and snare drum in the marching band, both of which were directed by his dad.
Brown III attended Delaware State University where he came under the tutelage and mentorship of jazz trumpeter Donald Byrd, an influence that would prove to be profound.
After completing his studies at Delaware State, he earned a scholarship to New School for Jazz and Contemporary Music in New York — his classmates included pianist Robert Glasper, saxophonist John Ellis, vocalist Bilal Oliver, and trumpeter Kenyon Harrold. In New York, Brown III studied with Larry Goldings, Lewis Nash, Horacio “El Negro” Hernandez, Carl Allen, and others.In this episode, Otis talks about
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In this episode, Otis talks about:
* Reconnecting with some of the music that inspired him early on* Growing up the son of musicians and music educators* The accessibility of heroes in New York* His experience at The New School, and his perspective on music education* His thoughts on racial justice in the music world, and how music can and should deliver a message
01:27:3402/07/2020
275 – Peter Retzlaff: Teaching at The Collective School of Music in NYC, Exposure to Multiple Cultures Through Music, Important Mentors in His Early Years
Peter Retzlaff is a New York City-based drummer. As a performer, Peter is equally at home in jazz, rock, funk, Brazilian, Afro-Cuban, Afro-Caribbean, odd meter, and New Orleans drumming styles. Peter has played with Kenny Werner, Greg Osby, Diane Schuur, Ray Vega, Maynard Ferguson, Pete McCann, Kim Bock, Loren Stillman, The BMI Big Band, The Jamie Begian Big Band, and his own group, Steeplechase recording artists Flow.
As an educator, Peter is Director of Curriculum and a full-time instructor at The Collective School Of Music (formerly known as The Drummer’s Collective). In addition, Peter teaches at the New School in New York City.
Peter is the author of two books, Turn It Up And Lay It Down: Baby Steps To Giant Steps and Contemporary Jazz Styles For Drums.
Peter received a B.A. in Jazz and Commercial Music and a B.A. in Business Administration from Capital University. He has also received a M.M. in Jazz Studies from the Manhattan School of Music and is the recipient of three National Endowment for the Arts Grants.
Check out Beier Snare’s here – https://www.beierdrums.com
Featured Beier snare recording is Eddie Bayers drumming for Scotty Simpson
In this episode, Peter talks about:
* Why he moved from Columbus Ohio to New York City* Teaching at The Collective School Of Music* The books he published* The influence and inspiration of growing up in Columbus Ohio* The influence of diverse cultures in music* Teaching in New York in the midst of Covid-19
Peter endorses Innovative Percussion, Zildjian, Remo, and Canopus
01:36:5825/06/2020
274 – Repost! The Black Drummers of Nashville 2017 Encore Edition: Building Relationships Upon the Common Ground of Music, Creating a Support System
In this episode we have the opportunity to share the unique perspective of a group of talented black musicians who make their living in Nashville, Tennessee. They share stories of resilience and realism in an unpredictable work environment.
Our guests include Keio Stroud, Derek Phillips, Jeremy Roberson, Marcus Finnie and Hubert Payne. Their respective artist gigs include Big and Rich, Chase Rice, Hank Williams Jr., Kirk Whalum, Little Big Town as well as other live and studio work that keeps these drummers busy.
In this podcast, this round table discusses:
* Building relationships upon the common ground of music* Being the only black person at an arena gig* Influencing the culture on and off the kit* Learning how to develop thick skin* Being mistaken as the band’s security* The influence of urban music in country music* Hands = knowledge / Ears = wisdom* Creating a support system
Recommended resources:
Duncan Trussell Podcast with guest Mehcad Brooks (ep 387)
Drummers Resource Podcast with Host Daniel Glass – Black Sounds Matter pt 1
Drummers Resource Podcast with Host Daniel Glass – Black Sounds Matter pt 2
Black Lives Matter
01:41:1918/06/2020
273 – Charlie Hunter: Master of the Hybrid Guitar, His Favorite Drummers, Valuing Uniqueness Over Versatility
With a career spanning three decades and almost 20 albums, Charlie Hunter consistently ups his game as an innovative writer and bandleader. He has worked with the likes of Norah Jones , Mos Def, John Mayer, D’Angelo and countless others. He is widely considered the authority on the seven and eight – string guitar, and continues to stun audiences with his ability to simultaneously bust out tasty bass parts, melodic leads and swinging rhythms.
Hunter has previously recorded for the venerable Blue Note label, Concord, Ropeadope, GroundUP and others. His recent independent venture is steered by his motivation to release music that most inspires him. Critics have touted his genius technique, but it’s his profound artistic sensibility that propels his original music. Hunter’s signature style of writing and performing has secured his place as one of today’s great guitarists.
In this episode, Charlie talks about:
* Developing his three-part playing style* The drummers he’s played with over the years, and what they have in common* The key to effective duo playing* Projects with singers Kurt Elling and Lucy Woodward, and why Derrek Phillips is the drummer for both* “The music education industrial complex” and how it is especially a disservice to drummers * Using quarantine to dismantle and reconstruct his playing and approach* How the live music industry could be reimagined from the ground up
01:19:1211/06/2020
272 – Grady Saxman: Drumming, Engineering & Producing, Techniques for Small Room Recordings, Studio Etiquette
In the short time he’s been in Nashville Grady Saxman has gained a solid reputation in Nashville Tennessee as a Drummer, engineer and producer. From just drum tracks and demo recordings to singles, ep’s and fully produced records, Grady’s credits include many indie artists and writers to higher profile artists like Luke Combs and Uncle Kracker.
In this episode, Grady talks about:
* His path to engineering and producing* The distinction between phase and polarity * Recording techniques for small rooms* The importance of mixing yourself when tracking * Playing drums on a Luke Combs single * Moving into the role of producer* The importance of being tech savvy in the modern scene * Studio etiquette
01:30:3504/06/2020
271 – Fabio De Oliveira: Playing with George Ezra, Combining Pop Drumset and Brazilian Percussion, Looking for Balance After Covid
Raised in London to Brazilian parents, and described as having the perfect mix of Brazilian passion and British sensibility, Fabio’s natural feel and broad understanding of various musical styes makes him one of London’s most versatile and in demand drummer/percussionists.
In 2011 Fabio graduated with a First Class Honors Degree in Music Performance and Production from the London Centre Of Contemporary Music.
In 2014 Fabio landed the job as stickman for number one selling artist George Ezra, giving him the opportunity to tour extensivley performing on some of the world’s biggest stages including Glastonbury Pyramid Stage, Madison Square Gardens, Montreux Jazz Festival, Coachella Music Festival and The Brits. Fabio has also backed George Ezra on TV shows such as Saturday Night Live, The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, Ellen, Jimmy Kimmel, Conan O’Brien, The Late Show with James Corden, The Graham Norton Show, Alan Carr Chatty Man and Top Of The Pops.
In this episode, Fabio talks about
* What he’s been working on during lockdown* Translating non-drumset sounds to the drumset* His Brazilian heritage, and growing up as part of London’s Brazilian community* The positive and constructive environment of the London Centre of Contemporary Music* How making friends and getting gigs are one and the same* The importance of a supportive partner* Ways he’s going to adjust his professional priorities and life balance moving forward
Fabio endorses Istanbul Agop Cymbals, Vic Firth, Remo, Protection Racket, Porter & Davies, and Roland.
01:17:4628/05/2020
270 – James Beier: Beier Drums, Bringing Back the 15″ Snare, An Honest and Personal Approach to Business
But every once in a while there’s an opportunity to discuss the business of creating the tools that we all love. And, the lessons that we all can take away from such a discussion. James Beier talks about his process, work flow and what motivated him to build a snare drum that fit his vision of what a snare could be for the working drummer. With confidence, I’d say he’s done that and more. In addition to building a “workhorse” durable snare, he has single handedly reintroduced the 15” snare back into the drumming world.
In this episode, James talks about:
* James’ personal approach to introducing his drums to people * How he started Beier drums* Detailed description of what he offers* His amazing 4×15” snare* Creating a business and a work load that works for him* The importance of listening to others
“One of the few traditionally manufactured instruments left in the industry today”
“Beier Drums introduces a very alternative snare drum, something that may sign the time. As we all know-13, 12 and 10 inch snare drums have established the majority type of the used snares as current alternatives to the classical 14 inch standard over the years. Now, thanks to Beier, the 15 inch snare will be a valid alternative too”
“A Timeless, Traditional, Classic, Original & Unchanging Series Of Snare Drums”
“The only drum company ever to specialize in Steel for snare drums, and dedicate itself to the revitalization of it in the world of drums…”
01:09:0621/05/2020
269 – Dave Weckl: His Brand, His Favorite Bassists, His Physical Evolution
For more than 35 years, Dave Weckl has developed and maintained a reputation among fans, peers, and the international music community, as one of the great living drummers. His contributions to iconic music, music education, and the gear that drummers use, are many. Modern Drummer magazine has inducted Weckl into their Hall of Fame (2000) and named him “one of the 25 best drummers of all time.”
He’s perhaps most well known for his ongoing tenure with the Chick Corea Elektric and Akoustic Bands, as well as side man duties for Michel Camillo, Mike Stern, Oz Noy, and many others. Weckl’s solo career began in 1990 with the release of Master Plan. In 1998, Weckl realized his long-time goal of forming a world-touring band. The Dave Weckl Band released five studio records, including: Rhythm Of The Soul, Synergy, Transition, Perpetual Motion, and Multiplicity. The band also released a hot live album, LIVE (And Very Plugged In) plus a compilation of DWB and instructional videos entitled The Zone.
Instructional videos have always played a big role in Weckl’s career. His original product, entitled Contemporary Drummer + 1, was one of the first play-along products ever published for drums. His Back To Basics and The Next Step releases were best-sellers in the ’90s and also continue to sell today.
In 2015, Weckl formed an acoustic jazz group with longtime friend/collaborator Tom Kennedy (bass), Gary Meek (sax), and Makoto Ozone (piano/B3). The group was called The Dave Weckl Acoustic Band. To date, the band has released a CD entitled Of The Same Mind and a live DVD filmed at Catalina Jazz Club in Hollywood.
More recently, Weckl has returned to touring with the Elektric Band, Mike Stern, and Oz Noy, while completing sessions in his Los Angeles-area home studio. He has also formed an online school with comprehensive lessons, new play along products, and live footage from current tours.
In this episode, Dave talks about:
* The development and expansion of his online teaching school* Creating and maintaining a drumming brand (at any level)* Playing “with” Chick before actually playing with Chick, and having to find a different, “burning” time feel with the Elektric Band* Bassists: Tom Kennedy, John Pattitucci, Anthony Jackson and others* Changes in his physical approach and their connection to changes in his mental/emotional approach* His passion away from the drums – track racing – and what it has taught him about drumming and himself
Dave Weckl endorses Sabian cymbals, Yamaha drums, Vic Firth, Remo heads, LP percussion, Shure mics, QSC monitors, ZOOM cameras, and Carmichael Throne top.
01:13:0714/05/2020
268 – Joel Stevenett: Drumming in the Pro Session Scene in Salt Lake City, Finding Common Ground when Networking, Reflections on Neil Peart
Originally from Alberta, Canada, drummer Joel Stevenett spent over ten years in Nashville before his eventual move to Salt Lake City where he currently lives and works as a first call session drummer. During his years in Nashville, Joel found himself on the road with such acts as JoDee Messina, The Wilkinsons, and SHeDAISY, among others.
His recording credits include the recording of Sony Playstation, X-BOX and Nintendo Wii video game soundtracks, including popular titles like Twisted Metal Head On, Dance Dance Revolution, and Disney’s Ultimate Band. Joel’s inventive and physical flair can be heard on numerous TV theme songs such as the NBA and The Today Show as well as movie soundtracks like Meet Joe Black, August Rush and Along Came Polly.
In this episode, Joel talks about:
* The work and attraction of Salt Lake City* Being proactive in seeking work* Film score and video game sessions* Finding common ground when networking* Reflecting on Neil Peart’s life and his influence * Preparing for a tribute to Neal
Joel endorses: DW drums, Paiste Cymbals, Remo Drumheads, HUMES AND BERG, VIC FIRTH Sticks, Shure Microphones, Porter and Davies
01:23:1707/05/2020
267 – Jordan Rose: Movement and Touch, Overcoming Hearing Loss, Making Your Sound Fit Anywhere
A native of Houston, Texas, drummer Jordan Rose has performed at festivals and venues throughout the US, Canada, Europe, Mexico, Asia, and the Middle East. From 2012-2014 Jordan toured extensively with multi-Grammy award winner Joe Louis Walker. He now resides in Brooklyn, New York where he’s had opportunities to collaborate with Charlie Puth, Jeff Coffin, Nona Hendryx, Bakithi Kumalo, Louis Cato, and many others. Recently, he has toured with Theo Katzman and Corey Wong of Vulfpeck, The Blues Brothers, and Caleb Hawley.
In this episode, Jordan talks about:
* How his style of movement behind the kit developed* Using a lighter touch in a smaller recording space * Learning recording techniques from Aaron Sterling and Dan Bailey* Relying on touch and feeling when he couldn’t trust his hearing* Growing up in Houston, and how the music scene there shaped him* Merging generations and genres in instrumental music, and different band leadership styles between them* His first touring gig after college with blues man Joe Louis Walker, and how it helped set him on a path of roots/groove-based drumming
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01:07:2030/04/2020
266 – Louis Newman: Adapting to Change, Drumming for Gretchen Wilson, Son of Famous English Rock Drummer
Louis Newman was born in London England as the son of famous rock drummer Tony Newman and moved to Nashville at a very early age of two. Louis moved back to London at age fifteen to pursue a career as a session drummer before finally settling back in Nashville in his early 20’s.
Louis is the current touring drummer for country singer Gretchen Wilson. Louis’ wife Gwen Sebastian performed on The Voice which lead to touring work with Blake Shelton and currently Miranda Lambert. Before this time, Louis performed a variety of roles from manager, to drummer.
(side note)****If you have questions about finances during this time, we recommend you get in touch with Michael Mercurio at [email protected] or request contact through http://www.sandawealth.com
In this episode, Louis talks about:
* How he’s making the most of the covid-19 shutdown* Taking stock of years of experiences* Studio lessons from Aaron Sterling* Being the son of a famous English rock drummer, Tony Newman* Drumming for Gretchen Wilson* Band leading and drumming for his wife Gwen Sebastion
Louis endorses Pearl Drums, Paiste Cymbals, Promark sticks, JH Audio and SKB Cases
01:31:5523/04/2020
265 – Steve Hass: Finding Success in NYC then LA, Identity vs. Versatility, The Setup/Motion/Sound Connection
Over his multi-chapter career, Steve Hass has found success on both coasts playing with Ravi Coltrane, Richard Bona, and John Scofield, and The Manhattan Transfer among others. He has recently launched a new Patreon endeavor which combines some playing-based lessons with “behind the scenes” info from gigs he’s been on over the years.
In this episode, Steve talks about
* How being versatile can make it hard to find your own identity* Finding your “local flow”* The LA scene being a bit less welcoming to new voices than New York, although that’s changing* How to behave when bandleaders don’t set you up to succeed* Physical issues (pain, numbness, etc.) that are tied to set-up issues, which are sometimes tied to vanity* How finding your motion will help you find your sound* Making a couple easy choices go a long way in capturing multiple vibes on a single gig
Steve Hass endorses Yamaha drums, Sabian cymbals, Vic Firth sticks, Evans drumheads, and GonBops
01:17:3416/04/2020
264 – Kari Paavola: Living and Drumming in Vienna, Budapest, London and Helsinki, Providing Valuable Information for Freelancers
Kari Paavola is a freelance drummer who started his career in the club scene in Helsinki, Finland. Kari studied at the Musicians Institute in Los Angeles before moving to London.
After two years in London, Kari joined the band Cinerama, an international touring act, and toured across US four times as well as shorter tours of Europe and UK. In addition, he did the Womack and Womack UK tours in 2006 and 2008. In 2009 he toured with Womack and Womack again as the drummer and Musical Director.
During his time in London, Kari recorded albums and demos and appears on 17 internationally available albums including a Top-40 hit in the UK when The Wedding Present song I am from further north than you entered the charts.
Kari currently lives and works in his home town of Helsinki, Finland and offers a masterclass / seminar on important aspects of working as a freelance musician.
******If you have questions about finances during this time, we recommend you get in touch with Michael Mercurio at [email protected] or request contact through http://www.sandawealth.com
In this episode, Kari talks about:
* Dealing with the Covid-19 situation* His time working in London* Living and working in Vienna, Budapest, and Stockholm* Lessons learned after losing a gig * Kari’s masterclass on freelancing * Organizing tours and bands for American artists
01:27:3409/04/2020
263 – Quarantine Roundtable with Nick Ruffini: Resources for Musicians, Ways to Use the Downtime, Finding Your Voice
Our annual chat with Nick Ruffini of Drummer’s Resource happens to coincide with pretty much the weirdest and most challenging time most of us will go through. We discuss some ways freelancers can get help, the pandemic’s implications for the future of the music industry, and what we’re all using this time to focus on.
HERE ARE SOME RESOURCES FOR MUSICIANS:
https://www.grammy.com/musicares
https://www.sweetrelief.org/
https://www.usa.gov/unemployment
https://cityofbostonartsandculture.submittable.com/submit/162763/boston-artist-relief-fund
https://www.unitedwaynashville.org/
COVID-19 Emergency Funding and Artist Resources
https://musicunitesus.bandzoogle.com/home?fbclid=IwAR2yQ57t3hm69Yw0GCbbIijA6uzlZhKdu89A5-i4zNeQm71br5TmzJNO1Ik#financial-assistance
In this episode, Matt, Zack, and Nick talk about
* Organizations musicians can turn to for help* Nick’s reignited passion for drumming after years of focusing on producing podcasts* Getting in touch with how you really want to sound – whatever you play, MEAN IT. * Ways drummers can set themselves apart in the remote tracking market * What we’re watching on TV
01:19:5402/04/2020
262 – Jimmy Paxson: Drumming for the Dixie Chicks, Stevie Nicks, Ben Harper, Lessons Learned from Veterans like Waddy Wachtel & Joe Sample
Jimmy Paxson has toured, performed and/or recorded with Stevie Nicks, The Dixie Chicks, Alanis Morissette, Idina Menzel, Ben Harper, Ellen Harper, Charlie Musselwhite, Eikichi Yazawa, Edgar Winter, Ronnie Montrose, Stanley Clarke, Rod Stewart, Joe Sample, Randy Crawford, Robben Ford, Philip Sayce, Waddy Wachtel, Keiko Matsui, Sophie B. Hawkins, Sub.bionic, Lady Antebellum, Don Henley, Steve Vai, Sheryl Crow, Roy Gaines, Rick Derringer, Ravi Coltraine, Jerry Goodman, Dave Stewart, Mike Campbell, Johnny Rivers, A Fine Frenzy, Anna Nalick, Adam Levine, Vanessa Carlton, Lili Haydn, Annie Clark (of St. Vincent), Larkin Poe, Ladies of the Canyon, Abandon Jalopy with Brad Smith of Blind Melon, Shy Carter, Batture Boys with Tommy Malone and Ray Ganucheau, Jenni Alpert, Andra Day, Sunnie Paxson, Cagnet, Barbara Morrison, Bernard Fowler, Julian Coryell, Rachael Spector, Elizavetta, Ray-J. and Giorgia. His organ trio “The Casualties of Jazz” (with bassist Chris Golden and Matt Rohde on B3 Hammond Organ) recorded a critically acclaimed record of Black Sabbath songs performed as organ jazz called Kind of Black.
He is the son of Philadelphia Jazz musicians – Drummer Jimmy Paxson Sr. and Pianist Sunnie Paxson.
In this episode, Jimmy talks about:
* How the music community is dealing with the health emergency* Drumming for the Dixie Chicks* Lessons learned from Waddy Wachtel during his Stevie Nicks gig* What Jimmy learned from his parents who were pro musicians * Being creative in the studio with everything from trashcans and suitcases * Studying with Murray Spivack in L.A.* Sheet music software Aero Drums
Jimmy endorses: C&C Drums, Zildjian Cymbals, Earthworks, Dunnett Snares, DW Hardware and Innovative Percussion Sticks
01:51:3226/03/2020
261 – Khari Parker: Chicago Born & Bred, Playing with George Benson and Destiny’s Child, The Importance of Playing in a Room with People
Khari Parker has spent his entire life in Chicago. He began playing drums in church and became interested in jazz and fusion during his high school and college years. He left college to gig full time and hasn’t stopped since, remaining in high demand by acts spanning jazz, rock, R&B, and gospel. He gained notoriety playing with Destiny’s Child in the late 90’s and is currently the touring drummer for George Benson.
In this episode, Khari talks about:
* Going to a small regional college rather than a huge program* How he would construct a college drumming curriculum * The driving musical forces of the Chicago scene* How remote tracking lacks the critical elements of in-person collaboration and in-the-moment invention* Managing his energy during shows when he began playing arenas with Destiny’s Child* The lineage of George Benson drummers (Gadd, Mason, et al)
Khari endorses Yamaha drums, Vic Firth sticks, and Sabian cymbals.
01:18:4919/03/2020
260: – Kip Allen: Cultivating Your Own Voice & Sound, Working with Producer Jay Joyce, Building a Strong Instagram Following, Drumming for Devin Dawson
Kip is the touring and recording drummer for Nashville artist Devin Dawson. Drumming for Devin allowed Kip the opportunity to work in the studio with award winning producer Jay Joyce.
Kip is known throughout the drumming community for his well produced and insightful video clips on Instagram that has garnered a sizable following.
Originally from Dallas, Texas, Kip Allen moved to Nashville, Tennessee to attend Belmont University to study commercial percussion. During his time in and around his time at Belmont, Kip traveled, and playing drums, with Devin Dawson, Paul Childers and the Black Tie Affair, Forest Fire Gospel Choir, and Baylor Wilson just to name a few.
In this episode, Kip talks about:
* Setting aside practice time to work on recording techniques * The importance of finding space in your playing * Cultivating your own voice and sound* Working with producer Jay Joyce in the studio* Kip’s effective use of Instagram * The use of samples in recordings
Kip endorses: Dw Drums, Pedals and Hardware,Drumtacs & Madbox Cajons
01:08:4812/03/2020
259: Matt Brennan – Author of “Kick It: A Social History of the Drum Kit”
Matt Brennan is an author, musician, and researcher. His creative practice as a musician informs his teaching and research process, which also draws from historical, sociological, business, and ethical approaches to understanding music in society.
At the University of Glasgow he is Director of the Interdisciplinary Music Industries Research Group (IMIRGe) and Convenor of the MSc Music Industries degree.
He has served as Chair of the UK and Ireland branch of the International Association for the Study of Popular Music (IASPM), and held a Leverhulme Early Career Fellowship and Chancellor’s Fellowship at the University of Edinburgh prior to taking up his current post as Reader in Popular Music.
Matt has authored, co-authored, and edited several books in the field of popular music studies. His latest book, Kick It: A Social History of the Drum Kit (Oxford University Press 2020), establishes the drum kit’s central role in shaping the history of music over the last 150 years.
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In this episode, Matt talks about:
* Why the drums have been simultaneously maligned and indispensable for so long* How negative views of drummers and drumming are rooted in the slave trade and racism* The history of solidarity among working drummers* The role the drums and drummers played in the birth of many musical genres* How The Beatles and Ringo made the drum industry global
01:08:0905/03/2020
258 – Creighton Doane: Drummer, Mutli-instumentalist and Producer, A Drummer’s Sensibilities when Arranging and Writing
Creighton Doane’s musical life began at a young age in a household where music formed the heart and soul of the home. A mutli-instumentalist and talented producer, Creighton has played drums and toured the world with artists like Allah Myles, Harem Scarem and sister Melanie Doane. He has and performed with some of Canada’s best-know artists in a variety of genres. Moving his talents to the studio, Creighton brings a wealth of knowledge to a diversity of projects – from writing custom music for advertising and TV; to composing for film and theatre; to songwriting and record production; while continuing to push the envelope behind the kit.
In this episode, Creighton talks about:
* Sound design in theatres* The advantage of a drummer’s sensibilities when arranging and writing * His transition from playing live to studio work* Modern recording applications* Creating situations that build upon your experiences * “Faith” as a part of your business plan
01:29:2327/02/2020
257 – Chris Brady: 23 Years with Aquarian Drumheads, The Legacy of Roy Burns
Chris Brady has been in charge of Artist Relations at Aquarian for 23 years. He also has a hand in marketing, product development, and whatever else he needs to do for the company to grow and thrive. Chris began his playing career in Southern California, a contemporary of Gregg Bissonette and others. Handpicked by Roy Burns to join Aquarian, he made the jump to the product side of the music business and hasn’t looked back. Roy died in 2018, but Chris and the Aquarian team are carrying on with the love for music and musicians that Roy instilled in the company.
In this episode, Chris talks about:
* The last round of NAMM* His criteria for taking on endorsers* His early gigging life in SoCal* How and why he chose a career path on the product side * Aquarian’s products and “kick and snare” ethos* Roy Burns’s “music first” approach
01:12:5920/02/2020
256 – Steve Brewster: Nashville Studio Great, Tapping Into the “Muse” When Recording, Applying Your Thumbprint to the Music
Steve Brewster has lived and worked in Nashville as a session player for over 20 years. A native Tennessean, Steve attended MTSU on a full music scholarship and studied jazz at UT-Knoxville. He moved to Nashville in 1988, after touring early on with country artist, Janie Fricke, and CCM artist, Michael W. Smith. Shortly after moving to town, Steve was embraced by the Nashville studio community and developed a steady and high-profile studio career, which he has maintained to this day. His passionate and creative musical approach, combined with his diverse, eclectic taste have afforded him the opportunity to contribute in a wide range of musical situations ranging from Rock to Pop, to Country, Contemporary Christian and Gospel. Steve has recorded with artists including Bob Seger, Jewel, Deirks Bentley, Chicago, Michael W. Smith, Faith HIll, Sara Groves, Amy Grant, and Richard Marx. He is a devoted husband and father, and, along with a busy studio schedule, he enjoys a strong family life. In addition to being involved in sessions around the Nashville area, Steve has developed and is involved at his own studio, “Brewbeat”.
In this episode, Steve talks about:
* Helping to create the sound, style, brand of the artist your drumming for* Seeing the chart on the session as a “portal” into what to play* Tapping into the “muse” when the red light goes on* Using diversity as a strength not a weakness* Applying your thumbprint to the music with varying degrees * Steve’s home studio space
Steve endorses Paiste Cymbals and Innovative Percussion Sticks
01:36:4613/02/2020
255 – Cole McSween: Touring and Recording with The Shadowboxers, Opening for Justin Timberlake, Making the Kind of Christian Music He Wants to Hear
Cole’s style ranges from Neo Soul to 70’s inspired yacht rock. His journey as a musician started as a drummer. Attending Georgia State University, Cole studied 5 years towards a degree in Jazz Studies. Cole quickly became a well known drummer in Atlanta, playing with artists such as The Shadowboxers, Kenny Loggins, Larkin Poe, Faye Webster, ATL Collective, and more. He has also appeared on stage with Justin Timberlake, Chris Stapleton, Maren Morris, Little Big Town, Reba McEntire, Hunter Hayes, Phillip Phillips, and Lucie Silvas.
He spent five years in based in Nashville, touring and recording with The Shadowboxers. The band recently decided to relocate to LA, but Cole chose to move his family back home to Atlanta where he can focus on his new creative goals, including making groove-driven Christian music with a more personal message.
In this episode, Cole talks about:
* Being in Nashville, but dedicated exclusively to the Shadowboxers* Opening for Justin Timberlake on the Man of the Woods tour* The factors in his decision not to follow the band to LA* His new original project, and the new ideas he’s trying to bring to Christian music* The importance of simplicity in music, despite the endless availability of digital sounds and techniques
Cole endorses Pearl drums, Istanbul Mehment cymbals, and Vic Firth sticks.
01:09:5006/02/2020
254 – Neil Peart Tribute: Jason Sutter, Peter Erskine, Ed Toth, Josh Birkhimer, Scot Corey, Lee Kelley and Zack Albetta Share Stories and Thoughts About Neil
Wherever Neil Peart ranks in your list of drumming greats, it’s safe to say that he has influenced more drummers and musicians than just about any other drummer in modern history. The ripple effect of his passing can be felt across the drumming community in a way not experienced since Buddy or John left us.
Neil not only inspired many to pickup the sticks, he made it made it cool to be smart and well read. He made us want to ride our bikes, write lyrics, go on hikes, use big words unabashedly and pursue all things with integrity. Many of us ask ourselves, “What’s the most excellent thing I can do today?” That’s what Neil asked himself every day.
01:38:3830/01/2020
253 – Harold “HB” Brown: Touring with Jacob Banks, Straddling the CCM and Secular Worlds, Minimalism in Drumming and Production
Harold Brown is a drummer/producer from Atlanta, GA. He is originally from Savannah, GA but relocated to Atlanta in September of 2012. Harold has been playing drums professionally for over 12 years with various artists and music groups such as Phil Kaeggy, Jacob Banks, Chris Tomlin, David Crowder, and Housefires among many others.
Harold is currently touring with U.K. singer and songwriter Jacob Banks as his drummer. While touring full time with Jacob Banks, Harold enjoys producing and playing studio sessions remotely and off the road locally.
In this episode, HB talks about:
* His activity in the CCM world before joining Jacob Banks’ band* The value of recording an album as a band, all in the same room* Playing with Atlanta bassist and producer Robby Handley* Lowering the dynamic ceiling* His “less is more” approach to drumming, arranging, and production
HB endorses SE Electronics Microphones, Alclair Ear Monitors, Vater drumsticks, and Shy Baffles
01:09:2623/01/2020
252 – Matt Starr: Drumming for Mr. Big, Ace Frehley, Staying Relaxed and Centered when Playing, Asking Tough Questions when Coaching
Matt Starr is a drummer, singer, producer, career coach and public speaker. As a drummer, Matt has built a reputation for working with some of rock’s most influential musicians including Ace Frehley (KISS), Joe Lynn Turner (Rainbow), Kevin DuBrow (Quiet Riot)and most recently alongside Billy Sheehan and Paul Gilbert in Mr. Big. He has also worked with members of Guns ‘n Roses, Bon Jovi andWhitesnake.
In the studio Matt has recorded with producers Jimmy Bralower (VP A&R Atlantic Records, Madonna, Mick Jagger, Joan Jett), Toby Wright (Metallica, Alice In Chains, Korn), Mike Chapman (Blondie, The Knack, The Sweet), Dave Bianco (AC/DC, Tom Petty, KISS), Anthony Focx (Aerosmith, Foreigner) and Warren Huart (Aerosmith, The Fray).
His workshop Turning Passion Into A Career has taken Matt around the world speaking to musicians and non-musicians in both academic and corporate settings.
Matt endorses, Ludwig Drums, Paiste Cymbals, DW hardware, Vater sticks and Remo drumheads
01:21:1216/01/2020
251 – Eric Kalb: Playing with Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings and John Scofield, Merging Groove and Improv, Finding Work that Suits You
Southpaw drummer Eric Kalb is a versatile musician who enjoys playing groove based music. A devotee of R&B and Soul drumming, his improvisational aesthetic is colored by sudden bursts of rock aggression. Based in Brooklyn, New York, Eric is a multi-faceted studio and touring drummer whose “energetic and exhilarating style” (Jazz Times) keeps him in constant demand.
Over the course of his twenty-year career Kalb has taken to both studio and stage with a dazzling cavalcade of influential and innovative artists. He’s laid it down hard for the supernatural force of Miss Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings, the seven-string guitar wizardry of Charlie Hunter, jazz guitarist John Scofield and living organ Legend Dr. Lonnie Smith; to name but a few.
In this episode, Eric talks about:
* How he got into Soul and R&B music* Being part of the Sharon Jones “machine”* John Scofield’s “hands-off” style of bandleading* Making Southpaw, his first record as a leader* The many ways success can be defined
Eric endorses DW drums, Istanbul Mehmet cymbals, Vic Firth sticks, and Evans heads
01:16:5709/01/2020
250 – Steve Goold: Identifying Weaknesses and Tackling It, Drumming for Owl City, Sara Bareilles, Mat Kearney, “Modern Drumming” and Using Electronics Tastefully
Steve Goold plays drums in recording studios and on live stages as well as working as the Lead Music Director at CCV in Phoenix AZ, where he lives with his wife and daughters. Steve also runs a drum lesson website called The Drum Library.
As of 2019 Steve works regularly with Nashville-based artists Ben Rector and Mat Kearney, and occasionally with other artists like Cory Wong, Joel Hanson, Cody Fry, and Sara Groves. In the past, Steve has performed and/or recorded with Owl City, Sara Bareilles, Paul Baloche, Marc Martel, Caitlyn Smith, Yam Haus, Carly Rae Jepsen, Jason Gray, The Blenders, Michael Tait, The Honeydogs, Yuna, Cloud Cult, Go Fish, Larnelle Harris, and many others. Check out this 2015 recording of Steve on this indie recording project that was completely improvised under the band name MaSSs (How I Killed a Bear)
In this episode, Steve talks about:
* Identifying weaknesses and tackling it* Prepping for gigs* The unique demands of a church drummer* The ability to perform without a good mix * “Modern Drumming” and tasteful uses of electronics
Steve plays Risen Drums and Paiste Cymbals exclusively. All the sticks/mallets/brushes Steve uses are made by Vic Firth, and all of my drums have Remo heads on them. Steve uses Alclair IEMs and a bunch of various items made by Tackle Instrument and Index Percussion. Big Fat Snare Drum named their “Donut” model after Steve.
01:41:4102/01/2020
249 – Tom Knight: Touring and Recording with TLC, A Second Career in Voice Overs
Tom Knight came to prominence in the 90’s as a first call of producer Dallas Austin. Through Austin, Tom toured and recorded with TLC, Adam Nitti, Michael McDonald and many others. After more than a decade of solid road work, Tom took a step back from touring and playing live, and began a somewhat accidental second career in voice-overs. As a voice actor, Tom’s credits include Disney, BMW, and an Emmy-Award winning performance for Crown Royal. Tom is still active as a session drummer, mostly in his home studio in Atlanta.
In this episode, Tom talks about:
* The influence and friendship of Dave Weckl* An intensive season of shedding with Jeff Sipe* Being able to hear and feel music in different ways as you get older* Teaching at the Atlanta Institute of Music & Media* The recording process with producer Dallas Austin* Getting into the voice-over profession
Tom endorses Yamaha drums, Zildjian cymbals, and Vic Firth sticks.
01:44:1419/12/2019
248 – JC Clifford: Drumtacs, Pros and Cons of Social Media, Mentors Shaping a Strong Work Ethic
JC Clifford is best known for his work with and promotion of Drumtacs. He is the owner and president at Scorpio Marketing & Management LLC.
JC’s vocation took a left turn around 2012 that steered away from the auto industry and into the world of music business with a focus on the drumming community. His interpersonal, communication and overall organizational skills as well as a strong work ethic has enabled JC to create a steady business that has taken him all over the world. JC has worked with many drummers like Rich Redmond, Daniel Glass, Thomas Lang, Troy Luccketta and Mike Dawson.
In this episode, JC talks about:
* The pros and con of social media * His trip to Germany with Daniel Glass for Daniel’s Jazz Intensive * Cancer can Stick it foundation with April Samuals * Troy Lucketta’s program, “Troy Shows Up” * JC’s history in the auto industry and how it shaped his work ethic* Drumtacs
01:30:5612/12/2019
247 – Jerrod Sullivan: Playing with The 4 Korners, Studying at the Atlanta Institute of Music
“J-rod” isn’t your typical product of a family of musicians; rather, he grew up in a family who loved listening to music, and exposed him to Gospel and R&B. Through church and school he worked on his music, participating in bands and teaching himself bass guitar, keyboard, and music production. By 2006 he began posting drum cover videos to YouTube, the base of his ever-growing social media following, currently totaling 103K followers on Facebook and Instagram, not to mention his 43K YouTube subscribers.
After graduating from the Atlanta Institute of Music (studying music performance), J-rod joined The 4 Korners in 2013. As well as The 4 Korners, J-rod also drums for Alex Bugnon and Byron Cage. Besides being a full time performing musician, he continues to program live shows and produce for different artists under his business name: J-rod Sullivan Productions, LLC. J-rod has worked with the likes of Jidenna, Seven Streeter, Xscape, Bebe Winans, Everette Harp, Nick Colionne, Kenny Latimore, Chantae Cann, Avery Sunshine, Byron Cage, Alex Bugnon, Ronnie Laws and appeared in films such as BET’s ‘Being Mary Jane’, VH1s ‘Single Ladies’, Oprah’s ‘Greenleaf’, and BET HER.
In this episode, Jerrod talks about:
* The 4 Korners – formation, influences, and writing process* Setting himself apart from his peers with dynamics and touch* His experience in the Atlanta Institute of Music’s one-year performance program* Strategies for increased comfort behind the kit* His clothing company Got Pocket* How he has amassed over 100,000 social media followers
01:15:0805/12/2019