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Grizabella was the wrong cat to die. After seeing CATS the Musical for the first time in July of 2016, podcast host Mike Abrams was filled with a whirlwind of emotions. He was amused, confused, and a little angry. Almost exactly three years later when the 2019 CATS movie trailer came out, Mike had enough. It was time to speak his truth – Grizabella was the wrong Cat to Die at the Jellicle Ball. In this podcast, Mike interviews CATS cast members, CATS superfans, CATS haters, and explores the backstories of the Jellicle characters all to make a case for why they were more worthy to ascend to the Heaviside Layer than Grizabella.Part of the Broadway Podcast Network.
Ep103 - Janet Saia, Grizabella on the 90s European Tour (Part of Phantom February)
This February of 2023, we are honoring closing of Phantom of the Opera on Broadway by partnering with Phantom to chat with Phantom CATS.
This episode features Janet Saia who was Grizabella in the 90s European Tour. Hear Janet discuss singing Barbra Streisand's Memory in her audition, the nuances of the European tour, and why she thinks Victoria should go to the Heaviside Layer with Grizabella. Plus, hear Janet talk about her experience working on Phantom of the Opera.
Check out Janet on Instagram : @janet_saia
Check out Janet's website: www.janetsaia.com
Check out Phantom of the Opera on Broadway: us.thephantomoftheopera.com
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Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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43:5813/02/2023
Ep102 - Marni Raab, Jellylorum in 1999 German Production (Part of Phantom February)
This February of 2023, we are honoring closing of Phantom of the Opera on Broadway by partnering with Phantom to chat with Phantom CATS.
This episode features Marni Raab who was Jellylorum in the 1999 Germany Hamburg production. Hear Marni discuss learning the show in German, her thoughts on Jellylorum being a nurse, and how she had to improv during the felinity school rehearsals. Plus, hear Marni talk about her experience working on Phantom of the Opera.
Check out Marni on Instagram : @marnisee
Check out Phantom of the Opera on Broadway: us.thephantomoftheopera.com
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Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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38:4810/02/2023
Ep101 - Tug Watson, Swing on 2016 Broadway revival (Part of Phantom February)
This February of 2023, we are honoring closing of Phantom of the Opera on Broadway by partnering with Phantom to chat with Phantom CATS.
This episode features Tug Watson who was Munkustrap on the 5th US CATS National Tour and a swing on the 2016 Broadway Revival. Hear Tug discuss his many his different character backstories, a very deep backstory for how Munkustrap is part of the Mean Girls world, and how he created "story time with Tug" for his tour. Plus, hear Tug talk about his experience working on Phantom of the Opera.
Check out Tug on Instagram : @aunt_tug
Check out Tug's website: www.tugwatson.com
Check out Phantom of the Opera on Broadway: us.thephantomoftheopera.com
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01:04:4406/02/2023
Ep100 - Celebrating 100 Episodes, On Location with the 2023 US National Tour of CATS
HAPPY 100 EPISODES!!! When The Wrong Cat Died started as a 10 episode mini series, we never expected to reach 100 episodes but here we are! After talking with various cast members from over 15 different official productions of CATS all over the world, it was time to step things up. We reached out to the US National Tour of CATS to join the party. In this special 100th episode, Mike joins the cast before a show in Washington DC to discuss the plot, character backstories, and give theories for the actors to try on stage that evening. After watching the performance, Mike came back to hear from the actors and find out if the theories worked. Watch the video and listen to this episode to hear from the amazing cast of CATS.
A special thanks to Troika, the National Theatre in DC, and Bond Theatrical for helping coordinate this amazing production. Also, a big thank you to José Raúl Mangual, Ibn Snell, Luke Bernier, Brian Craig Nelson, Taryn Smithson, Yuka Notsuka, Ellie Chancellor, John Zamborsky, Megan Arseneau, Erica Cianciulli, Michelle E. Carter, and Tayler Harris who are the amazing cast members involved in the video.
Check out the video : bpn.fm/twcd100
Check out the US National Tour of CATS: ustour.catsthemusical.com
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01:22:2931/01/2023
Ep99 - Jacob Brent, Mr. Mistoffelees in Original Broadway Production & 1998 Movie
"If we don't find anyone else then we will offer you the role." This episode features Jacob Brent who was the magical Mr. Mistoffelees in the Original Broadway production of CATS, the West End production of CATS, and the infamous 1998 CATS movie! Hear Jacob share his experience from being in the show for over 9 years, his experience as a director for multiple CATS productions, and what it was like shooting the 1998 movie. Plus, Jacob answers many questions about the backstories of the characters and even offered to do a part 2 with more answers!
Check out Jacob on Instagram : @jacobbrentstagram
Check out Jacob's website: www.jacobbrent.me
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01:10:0717/01/2023
Ep98 - Jen Anckorn, CATS Artist & Superfan
"Each generation of CATS fans have their own theories." This episode features CATS artist and superfan Jen Anckorn. Hear Jen talk about being a fan of CATS before the "internet era," her fandom on Live Journal that created many of the modern theories, and her theory on how The Moments of Happiness lyrics are the key to understanding Old Deuteronomy's decision. Plus, Jen goes into a deep dive on why she believes Munkustrap is the best character in the show.
Check out Jen on Instagram : @emperorrainbow
Check out Jen's Etsy website: www.etsy.com/shop/EmperorRainbow
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53:5203/01/2023
EP97 - Friday Night Movie Podcast, Part 2 of 2, The 3 Year Anniversary of The 2019 CATS Movie
"When do you have time to think about these things? Is that why you don't sleep through the night?" In part 2 of our Catstravaganza crossover, Mike is joined by Shai, Becky, and Lily Korman who are the hosts of the Friday Night Movie Podcast. To celebrate the 3rd anniversary of the 2019 CATS movie, The Wrong Cat Died and The Friday Night Movie podcast teamed up to do a two part series. Part 1 can be found on The Friday Night Movie podcast and part 2 is right here! Hear the Korman's give a strong defense for the 2019 CATS movie, compare the CATS universe to the X-Men universe, and debate their Jellicle choices. Plus, the four of us go into a deep dive on the different versions of the Mungojerrie and Rumpleteazer songs.
Check out The Friday Night Movie Podcast on Instagram: @frinightmovie
Check out Shai on Instagram: @pancake4table
Check out Becky & Lily on Instagram: @fnmsisters
Check out The Friday Night Movie Podcast website: www.p4tmedia.com/frinightmovie
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01:03:1020/12/2022
Ep96 - Ian Campayno, Swing on US National Tour 5
"I was on the shorter side for the adult cats so when I would put the Tugger costume on, my cast would call me Teen Heart Throb Tugger." This episode features Ian Campayno who was a swing on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear Ian discuss his obsession with the 1998 DVD, his controversial take of not being a fan of Skimbleshanks, his experience as a swing, and why Grizabella is his Jellicle choice. Plus, Ian talks about what to expect when you come to see him in his new show Some Like It Hot.
Check out Ian on Instagram & Twitter: @icampayno
Check out Some Like It Hot: www.somelikeithotmusical.com
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44:2513/12/2022
Ep95 - Katharine Heaton, Swing on US National Tour 5
"Cats is a whole body experience. It just changes you. I cannot think of anything else like it. Nothing." This episode features Katharine Heaton who was a swing on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. For the first time ever shared publicly, hear Katharine tell her unique history with CATS. Plus, Katharine talks about her experience getting to Phantom on Broadway and why Grizabella is her Jellicle choice
Check out Katharine on Instagram & Twitter: @kittyheaton
Check out Katharine's nonprofit Instagram: @maureenheatonfoundation
Check out Katharine's nonprofit website: www.maureenheatonfoundation.org
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54:4506/12/2022
Ep94 - Kelliann DeCarlo, Swing on US National Tour 6
"I wore Leona's leotard on tour." This episode features Kelliann DeCarlo who was a swing on the most recent 6th US CATS National Tour covering Grizabella and Jellylorum. Hear Kelliann discuss having Jacob Brent as a teacher in college, the differences between learning cats in a regional production vs on tour, and her explanation on Grizabella's personal development throughout the show. Plus, Kelliann goes deep into different theories she has on the characters.
Check out Kelliann on Instagram & Tik Tok: @kellianndecarlo
Check out Kelliann's website: www.kellianndecarlo.com
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52:4122/11/2022
Ep93 - Will Roland, Broadway Star & Cats Fan
"What if Harrison Ford wanted to come in and be Gus?" This episode features Broadway star and CATS fan Will Roland. Hear Will talk about CATS being his first show, why he thinks they should stunt cast Gus, his hate for Bustopher Jones, and why Grizabella is actually his Jellicle choice. Plus, Mike and Will explore which cat would be which character on Showtime's Billions.
Check out Will on Instagram: @actually_will_roland
Check out Will on Twitter: @will_roland
Check out Will's website: www.will-roland.com
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44:1108/11/2022
Ep92 - Robyn Tempest, Grizabella on Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas
"I once got punched in the face doing Green Eyes." This episode features Robyn Tempest who played Grizabella on Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas. Hear Robyn talk about how the new cruise version of CATS is only 90 minutes, some of her crazy stories on the ship, and about how when she was first cast she didn't really want the part. Plus, hear Robyn tell a horrifying story about how she belted Memory one night and had zero reaction from the crowd.
Check out Robyn on Instagram & Tik Tok: @robyntempest
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58:0925/10/2022
Ep91 - Ahmad Simmons, Alonzo on 2016 Broadway Revival
"I got my equity card doing CATS in Pittsburgh." This episode features Ahmad Simmons who was Alonzo in the 2016 Broadway revival of CATS. Hear Ahmad share stories about doing different choreography of the show between productions, making his Broadway debut in CATS, and how he feels about Alonzo's backstory. Plus, Ahmad talks about his new show Only Gold which is currently running in the MCC Theater in NYC and his Broadway Cares Halloween show this October.
Check out Ahmad on Instagram: @ahmadsimmons
Check out Ahmad's Halloween Show: Ticket Link
Check out Only Gold at the MCC: www.mcctheater.org/tix/only-gold
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33:3018/10/2022
Ep90 - Keri René Fuller, Grizabella on US National Tour 6
"I don't think (Grizabella) expected, at all, to be chosen to go to the Heaviside Layer." This episode features Keri René Fuller who is currently performing as Jane Seymour in SIX on Broadway and played Grizabella in the US National Tour 6 of CATS before the pandemic. Hear Keri share how she had to learn the show with limited backstory, her theories on Grizabella's reason for coming back to the tribe, and her defense for Gus. Plus, Keri and Mike compare the Cats to the SIX Queens.
Check out Keri on Instagram: @krfuller13
Check out Six on Broadway: sixonbroadway.com
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56:2511/10/2022
Ep89 - Terrence Mann, Rum Tum Tugger in Original Broadway Cast
"I remember the Tugger was shooting people with a water pistol and I knew that wouldn't fly in New York." This episode features Terrence Mann who originated the role of the Rum Tum Tugger on the original Broadway production. Hear Terrence talk about his audition process, how he had fun with the crowd during the show, and share some incredible stories from the early days of Cats. He also throws out a theory that the Jellicle cats are independent and live separately until they come together once a year. Plus, Terrence shares his experience getting ready for his new show Only Gold which is currently running in the MCC Theater in NYC.
Check out Terrence on Instagram: @terrencemann_
Check out Terrence's website: www.terrencemann.com
Check out ONLY GOLD at the MCC: www.mcctheater.org/tix/only-gold
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44:5204/10/2022
Ep88 - Elana Valastro, Swing on US National Tour 6
"Our director Kim said that as a swing, the first time you go on, just make sure nobody dies." This episode features Elana Valastro who was a swing on the most recent 6th US CATS National Tour. Hear Elana share wild stories as a swing including the time she came in as Rumpleteazer mid show the day before the tour opening. Plus, Elana tells Mike what she remembers about all of the backstories for the cats.
Check out Elana on Instagram: @elanavalastro
Check out Elana's website: www.elanavalastro.com
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55:3727/09/2022
Ep87 - Emily Jeanne Phillips, Jennyanydots on US National Tour 6
"Jenny came out tap dancing and I was like 'that's me.'" This episode features Emily Jeanne Phillips who played Jennyanydots on the 6th US CATS National Tour before the pandemic. Hear Emily share a bunch of new CATS theories including the idea that Grizabella tired to come back to the tribe multiple times but never actually came back, that Rumpleteazer is Jennyanydot's daughter, and asks an important question on if the cats perform every year for the ball or if the competition changes each year. Plus, hear Emily talk about how she's choreographing tap dances on Tik Tok to TV theme songs.
Check out Emily on Instagram: @emilyjeanne4
Check out Emily on Tik Tok: @emilyjeannephillips
Check out Emily on YouTube: www.youtube.com/c/EmilyJeanne
Check out Emily's website: www.emilyjeannephillips.com
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45:5720/09/2022
Ep86 - Kim Criswell, Grizabella in 1985 Los Angeles Production (US National Tour 2)
"John (Napier) gets a magic marker and starts shading. That's how he created people's shadings." This episode features Kim Criswell who played Grizabella in the 1985 Los Angeles Production which is sometimes called the US National Tour 2 despite not touring. Hear Kim share about how John Napier designed the costumes, some crazy sayings from Gillian Lynne, and how she navigated being the one outsider from New York in a cast full of performers from Los Angeles. Plus, Kim shares a little known fact that the junkyard car license plate used to match the tour number.
Check out Kim on Twitter: @KimDCriswell
Check out Kim on YouTube: www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kim+criswell
Check out Kim's website: www.kimcriswell.net
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52:5613/09/2022
Ep85 - Dori Berinstein & Sammi Cannold, The Show Must Go On
"Anyone who works on CATS, within a few weeks of working on it you become indoctrinated in it." This episode features Dori Berinstein & Sammi Cannold who produced the documentary The Show Must Go On which chronicles the 2020 South Korea production of Cats and Phantom of the Opera. Dori and Sammi share how the idea for the documentary came about, how Sammi's love for the show grew during filming, Dori's defense of Grizabella, and Sammi's unique defense for Baby Grizz. Plus, Sammi promised to share her experience (and picture) from when she got to dress up as Bombalurina.
Watch The Show Must Go On on iTunes: itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-show-must-go-on/id1622240337
Check out Dori's website: www.dramaticforces.com
Check out Sammi's website: www.sammicannold.com
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56:5106/09/2022
Ep84 - Sean McManus, Tumblebrutus on US National Tour 6
"I think Tumblebrutus has the 'I just can't wait to be king' complex." This episode features Sean McManus who played Tumblebrutus on the 6th US CATS National Tour and is currently in the ensemble of Beetlejuice. Hear Sean share how the 2016 Broadway revival was his first experience with CATS, his defense for Grizabella as the Jellicle choice, and how he started doing his incredible impressions on Tik Tok. Plus, Sean and Mike compare cats to the Beetlejuice characters.
Check out Sean on Instagram: @smcmanus3
Check out Sean on Tik Tok: @seanie_mac
Check out Sean's website: www.seanmcmanusactor.com
Produced by:
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Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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45:1123/08/2022
Ep83 - Linus Karp, Comedian, How To Live A Jellicle Life, Life Lessons From the 2019 Hit Movie CATS
"My partner describes it as a Ted Talk from hell." This episode features Linus Karp who is a comedian who has a hit show called "How To Live A Jellicle Life, Life Lessons From the 2019 Hit Movie CATS" based on his experience seeing the 2019 movie. Hear Linus share how he created his show after seeing the movie, how he compares Cats as Eurovision, and his defense for Grizabella. Plus, be sure to check out Linus' Jellicle name generator.
Check out everything Linus has to offer at: linktr.ee/jellicle
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50:0809/08/2022
Ep82 - Alexandra Bowman, Satirist, Arts Critic, & CATS Movie Fan
"It's shocking how much of the show's ethos matches my personality." This episode features Alexandra Bowman, a satirist and superfan of CATS who loved the 2019 movie! Hear Alexandra discuss how her initiation to CATS was the 2019 movie, how she has written multiple parody articles about the movie and musical, about her CATS cosplay, and her defense for Munkustrap as her Jellicle choice. Plus, Alex and Mike take a deep dive into the 2019 movie from all kinds of angles you never realized you needed to hear.
Check out Alexandra on Instagram & Tik Tok: @alexandrabowmanart
Check out Alexandra on Twitter: @scripta_bene
Check out Alexandra's website: www.alexandrabowmanart.com
Check out Alexandra's stop motion Overture: vimeo.com/421656542
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01:09:1426/07/2022
LIVE: Debating CATS at BroadwayCon 2022 with Zach Bravo, Zach Raffio, Jesse McAnally, and Andrew DeWolf
LIVE from BroadwayCon 2022 in New York City, hear our CATS debate with Zach Bravo (US National Tour 6 Rum Tum Tugger), Zach Raffio (Founder of The Broadway Beat), Jesse McAnally (Musicals With Cheese co-host), and Andrew DeWolf (Musicals With Cheese co-host). Each panelist pulled a random cat out of a hat and made the case why they deserved to ascend to the Heaviside Layer over Grizabella. Tell us who you think should have won by commenting on Twitter, Instagram, or Tik Tok @TheWrongCatDied!
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41:3219/07/2022
Ep81 - Christopher Salvaggio, Skimbleshanks US on National Tour 6
"Kim Kardashian is Grizabella in her prime." This episode features Christopher Salvaggio, who played Skimbleshanks on the current 6th US CATS National Tour. Hear Chris discuss how he views the entirety of Skimble's life, how he get involved in Tik Tok during the pandemic, why he thinks Skimble was the Jellicle choice before Grizz showed up, and his defense for Gus as his Jellicle choice. Plus, since Chris is a huge reality TV fan, Chris and Mike compare cats to the Kardashians.
Check out Chris on Instagram, Twitter, & Tik Tok: @salvaggio_chris
Check out Chris' website: www.christopher-salvaggio.com
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44:3212/07/2022
Ep80 - Sean Chandler, Host of Your Program Is Your Ticket
"The CATS giveth and the CATS taketh away because the cats have battered me around so much my brain explodes with CATS." This episode features Sean Chandler who is the host of Broadway Podcast Network's show Your Program is Your Ticket. Hear Sean discuss he saw CATS initially as part of a high school trip, how CATS has been a rollercoaster in his own life, and XXX. Plus, Sean shares how CATS helped him realize his husband was his soulmate.
Check out Your Program is Your Ticket on Instagram: @yourprogramisyourticket
Check out Your Program is Your Ticket on Twitter: @programticket
Check out Your Program is Your Ticket website: www.yourprogramisyourticket.com
Check out Sean's website: www.seanwchandler.com
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58:3328/06/2022
Ep79 - Zach Bravo, Rum Tum Tugger US on National Tour 6
"Chrissie said, 'don't ad-lib.' You cannot compete with T. S. Eliot." This episode features Zach Bravo who played Rum Tum Tugger on the current 6th US CATS National Tour. Hear Zach discuss how he knew that he was going to be a Tugger from a young age, how he pulled from Metallica for his rock influence, and how he created "Tugger Talk" for Tik Tok. Plus, since Zach is a huge Star Wars fan, Zach and Mike compare cats to Star Wars characters and Zach shares his wild, maniacal laugh.
Check out Zach on Instagram: @the_zachbravo
Check out Zach on Tik Tok: @zachbravo
Check out Zach's website: www.zachbravo.com
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52:5014/06/2022
Ep78 - Hyla Perillo, Victoria US on National Tour 6
"I believe Victoria was reborn from the Heaviside Layer which is why Old Deuteronomy is so fascinated with her." This episode features Hyla Perillo who is Victoria on the current 6th US CATS National Tour. Hear Hyla discuss her Victoria headcons, her interpretation of Victoria representing the Jellicle Moon, and her theory on Victoria being last year's Jellicle choice. . Plus, Hyla and Mike pick their Jellicle choices for the next 3 years.
Check out Hyla on Instagram and Tik Tok: @hylamayrose
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47:1031/05/2022
Ep77 - Caitlin Bond, Victoria US on National Tour 6
"Everything Gillian Lynne did was on a piano or flute and everything Andy Blankenbuehler did was on a drumbeat." This episode features Caitlin Bond who was Victoria on the 6th US CATS National Tour before the pandemic. Hear Caitlin discuss her ballet dance background, her emotional experience in the final show before the pandemic, how shocked she was learning the story of CATS during rehearsals, and her passionate argument for Gus as her Jellicle choice. Plus, hear Caitlin share how she learned about the sexual nature of Victoria's story.
Check out Caitlin on Instagram & Tik Tok: @caitlinbond5
Check out Caitlin's website: www.caitlinbond.net
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01:05:0917/05/2022
Ep76 - Jamie Grayson, TheBabyGuyNYC and Skimbleshanks in 5 Regional Productions
"They name the food in Ohio. We were joking that we wanted a Rum Tum Tuna Casserole." This episode features Jamie Grayson who is better known as TheBabyGuyNYC but also played Skimbleshanks in 5 regional productions and designed makeup for 2 more productions. Jamie might know more stories about CATS than anyone else in the world and shares some of his craziest examples. Plus, Jamie reveals a major secret on the show that he's never told the world.
Check out Jamie on Instagram & Tik Tok: @TheJamieGrayson
Check out Jamie's YouTube Page: www.youtube.com/thebabyguynyc
Check out Jamie's Website: www.thejamiegrayson.com
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58:4703/05/2022
Ep75 - Anne Brummel, Grizabella on US National Tour 5
"The joy that I felt when I found out that I was going to be a part of Green Eyes. It was it all had come full circle. It was like, now I could be the person scaring people." This episode features Anne Brummel who played Grizabella on the US National Tour 5. Hear Anne discuss being traumatized seeing the show as a kid, how CATS compare to Wicked characters, and her passionate defense of Grizabella based on her theory that Grizabella wouldn't have made it a full year. Plus, hear how Anne went from being terrified of Green Eyes as a kid to scaring kids in Green Eyes.
Check out Anne on Instagram: @annebrummel
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57:5019/04/2022
Ep74 - Scott Miller, Author of "Theatre Cats"
"Skimbleshanks is in 13 and that's really kind of fun for me as a musician." This episode features Scott Miller who is the author of a CATS parody book called Theatre Cats. Hear about Scott's first time experiencing the US National Tour 3 of CATS in Boston, the writing process of crafting a parody book, his experience watching the new movie, and his first experience thinking about the Jellicle decision. Plus, hear Scott give his secret agenda for why he wrote his parody book of poems.
Check out Scott's author page on Amazon: www.amazon.com/author/millerscott
Check out New Line Theatre: www.newlinetheatre.com
Check out Scott's blog: www.newlinetheatre.blogspot.com
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44:4705/04/2022
Ep73 - Ben Rimalower & Daniel Nolen, Cast Offs @ Club Cumming
"I just remember they were really hanging their hat on Elaine Paige. Commercials on channel four in Tecumseh, Oklahoma and I was like... great whoever she is." This episode features Ben Rimalower & Daniel Nolen who are fellow podcasters on the Broadway Podcast Network and the hosts of a new event called Cast Offs being hosted at Club Cumming in New York City. Hear about Ben's experience falling asleep during CATS as a child and how Daniel burned through his VHS copy of the musical. Plus, we play a game called "Grizabella, Concert, Heaviside Layer" and debate the merits of Ben and Daniel's Jellicle choice.
Check out Ben on Instagram & Twitter: @benrimalower
Check out Daniel on Instagram & Twitter: @danielnolen
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Check out Cast Offs at Club Cumming: www.clubcummingnyc.com
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49:1823/03/2022
Ep72 - Damien Delaney, Bill Bailey on Original West End Production
"When I joined the show that was fifteen years in it was still playing to pack houses every single week." This episode features Damien Delaney who played Bill Bailey on the original West End Production. Hear Damien talk about getting to do the show with some of the original cast, learning the show with incredible Chrissie Cartwright, and why he believes Gus is his Jellicle choice.
Check out Damien on Instagram: @damiend13
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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25:0408/03/2022
Ep71 - Tony d'Alelio, Mungojerrie on US National Tour 6
"My first word is cocksure which is a British slang term for not just being cocky but cocky to your own detriment." This episode features Tony d'Alelio who was Mungojerrie on the 6th US CATS National Tour before the pandemic. Hear Tony discuss how he grew up only watching the first act of the musical, his interpretation of the nuances of the show, and his deep defense for Gus as his Jellicle choice. Plus, hear Tony talk about how he brings the idea of the three words into all of his performances.
Check out Tony on Instagram: @tonydalelio
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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48:3822/02/2022
Ep70 - DJ John Michael, Peloton DJ
"And if there's any lens point at which to look at CATS through, it's through the eyes of a cult." This episode features DJ John Michael who you likely know as the Live DJ during your Peloton workouts but who also performed as a hybrid Munkustrap/Rum Tum Tugger cat in the Staten Island Academy of PerformIng Arts production of CATS. Hear DJ John Michael discuss how he collected international cast recording growing up, how he auditioned for the touring cast twice, and his hot takes on the 2019 movie. Plus, hear DJ John Michael break down each cat's go to DJ'ing song.
Check out DJ John Michael on Instagram: @djjohnmichael
Check out DJ John Michael on Tik Tok: @djjohnmichaelnyc
Check out DJ John Michael's Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/johnmichaeldispirito
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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01:04:0408/02/2022
Ep69 - Laura Kaufman, Tantomile on US National Tour 6
"If you are just watching the show you probably wouldn't even notice the twins. But if someone knows this show well or if someone happens to catch us and then follow us, they're in for a treat." This episode features Laura Kaufman who was Tantomile on the 6th US CATS National Tour before the pandemic. Hear Laura discuss seeing the show as a teenager, performing in front of friends and family outdoors in 95 degree heat, and why she doesn't think Grizabella is ready for the Heaviside Layer. Plus, hear Laura tell the story of how she went on as a swing for Victoria.
Check out Laura's on Instagram: @yuzzz12
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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48:5125/01/2022
Ep68 - Benjamin Colley, Swing on the 2020 South Korea Production
"CATS is a lot of damp leotards." This episode features Benjamin Colley who was a swing on the 2020 Asian Tour in South Korea cover Rum Tum Tugger, Munkustrap, Old Deuteronomy, Gus, Bustopher Jones, and Growltiger. Hear Benjamin discuss what it was like being part of one of the only musicals running during the beginning of the Covid-19 Pandemic, how the cast became really close living in their bubble, and how he was terrified of performing as Tugger since it's not his natural personality. Plus, Ben humors Mike discussing the infamous CAT George's revival in Asia and really breaks down Munkustrap's future.
Check out Benjamin on Instagram: @almoncolley
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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01:01:3111/01/2022
Ep67 - Tanner Ray Wilson, Dance Captain and Swing on 2016 Broadway Revival
"I had never seen a stage production before booking the show." This episode features Tanner Ray Wilson who was a swing and a dance captain in the 2016 Broadway revival. Hear Tanner discuss break down Carbuckety's backstory, his theory on how Jennyanydots and Pouncival are actually a couple, and his reasoning for why Cassandra should have been the Jellicle choice. Plus, Tanner gives a ton of different endings and theories for the show.
Check out Tanner on Instagram: @tannerraywilson
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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01:02:2223/12/2021
Ep66 - Lynn Craig, Swing on US National Tour 5
"They asked us what we knew about cats and why we were so excited to be there I got a little bit of attitude because I thought they were cats from space." This episode features Lynn Craig who was a swing on the 5th US CATS National Tour . Hear Lynn discuss her introduction to CATS knowing very little at her first rehearsal, her experience doing CATS in a round theatre, and how her show differed from the 2016 Broadway revival.
Check out Lynn on Instagram: @lynnjcraig
Check out Lynn's website: www.lynnjcraig.com
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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38:1230/11/2021
Bonus - Broadway Reborn: Memory Parody (10 Minute Version) (Mike's Version)
If the 2019 Bombalurina can re-release her own music, why can't I? As part of the “BROADWAY REBORN, WITH LOVE NOW AND FOREVER, A Celebratory Welcome Back!” event that was recorded live on August 21, 2021, we recorded and released a parody of Memory. Hear it today and watch the music video on YouTube at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pnXTDssGNY
Performed by Melanie Goerlitz
Lyrics by Mike Abrams:
Broadway
How I’ve missed you, oh Broadway
Let your memory help me
Fill the void from within
I have settled to watching clips of CATS on YouTube
But a live show must begin
Broadway
How I’ve missed you oh Broadway
I remember the old days
Shows were happening then
I remember the time I flipped through my Playbill
Please let Broadway start again
Burnt out lightbulbs, dusty stages
Empty lines at the theatre
Grizabella’s not dying, the Ball hasn’t even started
And all of the CATS are waiting
Matinee
I just want to see a matinee
I’ll even come on a Monday
And I’ll stand in the back
I am willing to pay
Too much for a glass of wine
Just let Broadway start again
Old Deuteronomy is ready to make his choice
Grizabella is elevating
Gus is standing there being passed over
His tears of sadness are fading
Pick Gus
I just want you to pick Gus
He is much more deserving
The crowd’s on his side
If you pick him
You'll finally end the show correctly
Look remember
The Wrong Cat Died
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Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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04:3916/11/2021
Ep65 - Jacob Smith, Macavity in Waterloo Community Playhouse (Iowa)
"I poke out as as Alonzo singing 'Were you blind when you're born?' full tilt at my father two feet away I will never forget for the rest of my life he noticed me and jumped probably two feet out of his seat." This episode features Jacob Smith who you probably know from his time on Broadway in Frozen but performed as Macavity early in his theater journey at the Waterloo Community Playhouse in Iowa. Hear Jacob and Mike discuss his introduction to regional theater, his hilarious experience scaring his father, and then debate the merits of Grizabella vs Gus. Plus, if you stick around to the end, you can hear Jacob and Mike discuss axe throwing in Indiana.
Check out Jacob on Instagram: @jacobsmithstudios
Check out Jacob's website: www.jacobsmithstudios.com
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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01:12:3109/11/2021
Ep64 - Joshua Burrage, Swing on 2016 Broadway Revival
"Alonzo is the Rob Kardashian of CATS." This episode features Joshua Burrage who was a swing in the 2016 Broadway revival and an emergency cover on the US National Tour 6. Hear Joshua discuss how CATS was his first time performing as a swing, give a deep character breakdown of his various cats, and how both he and his brother got to perform in the show on tour. Plus, be sure to dig through Joshua's Instagram to see home videos of him and his brother performing CATS as kids.
Check out Joshua on Instagram: @joshuaburrage
Check out Joshua on Twitter: @JoshuaBurrage3
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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49:1526/10/2021
Ep63 - Heidi Stallings, Grizabella in the Original Broadway Production
"Gillian Lynn would change the choreography which she could do because it's hers." This episode features Heidi Stallings who played Grizabella on Broadway in 1991 after initially being a cover. Hear Heidi talk about how she learned the show from a cassette tape, how she developed her character using inspiration from other performances, and her defense on why Grizabella is her Jellicle choice.
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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44:4712/10/2021
Ep62 - Hannah Kenna Thomas, Victoria on 2014 West End Revival
"She would definitely be a rhythmic gymnast." This episode features Hannah Kenna Thomas who was Victoria on the 2012 West End Revival and is currently in the 2019 Vienna Revival. Hear Hannah talk about her obsession with the show growing up, the story of Andrew Lloyd Webber and Trevor Nunn seeing the UK tour to bring to the West End, and her defense for Grizabella as a Jellicle choice. Plus, Mike works very hard to influence Hannah's Vienna Victoria performance to play Grizabella as her mother.
Check out Hannah on Twitter & Instagram: @hannahkenna
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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48:1228/09/2021
Ep61 - Matthew Levick, Bill Bailey on 2019 Vienna Revival
"At times I was just speaking and had no idea what I was saying." This episode features Matthew Levick who is currently playing Bill Bailey in the 2019 Vienna Revival. Hear Matt talk about his time performing CATS on a cruise ship, what it's like learning multiple characters in a different language, and discuss the amazing theatre community in Vienna. Plus, Matt shares a little of the Bill Bailey backstory.
Check out Matt on Instagram: @matthewlevick
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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41:2314/09/2021
Ep60 - Gavan Pamer, Mungojerrie US National Tour 4
"It's really Victoria and the rest of the cats who pick Grizabella." This episode features Gavan Pamer who played Mungojerrie in the 4th US CATS National Tour. Hear Gavan talk about how the show was so popular that it sold $1M in one week, how they went on an "arena tour," and what it was like doing the infamous cartwheels in his dance. Plus, Gavan tells his theory that Old Deuteronomy was picking Skimbleshanks before Grizabella comes back.
Check out Gavan on Instagram: @gpamer
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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01:00:2231/08/2021
Bonus - BPN LIVE: CATS Casts Reunion: "BROADWAY REBORN"
Nearly 35 years after their first performance, the National 3 cast of the landmark international musical sensation by Andrew Lloyd Webber, CATS, reunited for a very special virtual theatrical event, WITH LOVE, NOW AND FOREVER! CATS4COVIDRELIEF, a fundraiser for the Broadway Cares Covid-19 Emergency Assistance Fund, which supports The Actors Fund.
Now, one year later they are reunited, once again, to celebrate the reopening of the theatre industry in “BROADWAY REBORN, WITH LOVE NOW AND FOREVER, A Celebratory Welcome Back!”
Partnering with The Broadway Podcast Network’s, “The Wrong Cat Died” podcast hosted by Mike Abrams this live, in person, one-night-only special event will feature original broadway, national, and international companies cast members, Deborah Geneviere Athens, Joanna Beck, Anthony Vincent Bova, Jonathan S. Cerullo, Adrea Gibbs, Austin Jetton, Christine Toy Johnson, Kari Nicolaisen, Amiee Turner, and James Walski, in a lively conversation with their unique perspective on the landmark musical and the celebration of Broadway reopening! In addition they will rebroadcast their inspired celebration of the opening number, “Jellicle Songs for Jellicle Cats,” a unique rendition of “The Naming of Cats”, a tribute to T.S. Eliot. Rounding out the evening will be a thought provoking conversation on the role of Grizabella whose off the chart, now classic song recognized by Billboard's Top-10 most recorded musical theatre songs, “Memory”, with those who played the infamous “Glamour Cat”, Heidi Stallings, Lyn MacDonald-Sigman, and Grammy Award-winner Leslie Ellis.
Thanks to Melanie Goerlitz for being our opening segment glamour cat!
Watch the original video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHk9dcfh5Zc
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01:01:4524/08/2021
Ep59 - Emily Tanner, Tantomile on Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas
"In the variety show our Demeter got hit in the face with a briefcase." This episode features Emily Tanner who played Tantomile on Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas. Hear Emily talk about how the cruise crowd generally reacts to CATS, discuss all of the other things she had to do on the cruise as a dancer like the variety show, and brainstorm with Mike on how to make each week's three shows different. Plus, hear Emily talk about the on board differences for singers and dancers.
Check out Emily on Instagram: @emtannn
Check out Emily's website: emily-tanner.com
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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50:2810/08/2021
Ep58 - Chris Stevens, Rum Tum Tugger on US National Tour 5
"I was told my Tugger gyrated more than any other in the cast." This episode features Chris Stevens who played Rum Tum Tugger in the 5th US CATS National Tour. Hear Chris talk about how we was cast in the show almost immediately after graduating, how he tried to find perfection in a character that thrives on imperfection, and his fun experience with an audience member in Kentucky. Plus, hear Chris talk about some of the craziness of being on tour including a three show day.
Check out Chris on Instagram: @cjstevens421
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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59:3703/08/2021
Ep57 - Jeremy Davis, Skimbleshanks from 2016 Revival
"The CATS lore was created over the course of many decades of the show." This episode features Jeremy Davis who played Skimbleshanks in the 2016 Broadway revival. Hear Jeremy tell the story of how Trevor Nunn told the entire CATS story to the 2016 Revival, how the show still have creative liberty to do something different each night (within reason), and the other half of the Tugger/Skimble rumor that started with Jeremy and Tyler Hanes. Plus, hear Jeremy discuss the backstory he created for his Uncle Skimble!
Check out Jeremy on Instagram: @jeremydavis76
Produced by:
Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network
Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied
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59:3527/07/2021