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Grizabella was the wrong cat to die. After seeing CATS the Musical for the first time in July of 2016, podcast host Mike Abrams was filled with a whirlwind of emotions. He was amused, confused, and a little angry. Almost exactly three years later when the 2019 CATS movie trailer came out, Mike had enough. It was time to speak his truth – Grizabella was the wrong Cat to Die at the Jellicle Ball. In this podcast, Mike interviews CATS cast members, CATS superfans, CATS haters, and explores the backstories of the Jellicle characters all to make a case for why they were more worthy to ascend to the Heaviside Layer than Grizabella.Part of the Broadway Podcast Network.
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Ep149 - John Zamborsky, Skimbleshanks on US National Tour 6

Ep149 - John Zamborsky, Skimbleshanks on US National Tour 6

"Remember what you said about the train light? I saw CATS a few days ago in Japan. I saw the Japanese production and you're absolutely right. The train light shined directly into my face." This episode features John Zamborsky who played Skimbleshanks on the US National Tours 6 of CATS. Hear John discuss seeing the show the first time as a kid, some amazing Skimbleshanks canon derived from Tumblr, and, as you can see in the quote, experiencing the excruciating pain that is the light hitting you in the face into the audience during Macavity in Act 2. Plus, John and Mike compare CATS to Jesus Christ Superstar where John is currently performing on tour in North America. Check out John on Instagram: @izamwhoiam Check out Jesus Christ Superstar on Instagram: @jesuschristsuperstar Check out the Jesus Christ Superstar Tour: jesuschristsuperstar.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
53:4223/01/2024
Ep148 - Broadway Bob, Theatre Content Creator

Ep148 - Broadway Bob, Theatre Content Creator

"​​Cats is one of those shows that made me fall in love with theater. It was the first show that I ever saw as a kid." This episode features The Broadway Bob who is an incredible theatre content creator and performer who has hot takes on CATS. Hear Bob talk about how he got into content creation, his experience seeing CATS as his very first musical, and all of his fun takes on the show. Plus, Bob and Mike create a new cat called "Snifflebottom," share the cat's backstory, and make it's case to be the Jellicle Choice. Check out Bob on Instagram: @thebroadwaybob Check out Bob on Tik Tok: @broadwaybob Check out The Sunset Project Podcast: www.buzzsprout.com/1564919 Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
54:3316/01/2024
Ep147 - Leigh Webster, Cassandra & Dance Captain on Original Broadway Production & US National Tour 2 & 4

Ep147 - Leigh Webster, Cassandra & Dance Captain on Original Broadway Production & US National Tour 2 & 4

"Even though I didn’t have a big role, I made an impression on the stage." This episode features Leigh Webster who played Casandra and was a Dance Captain on the US National Tours 2 & 4 of CATS as well as the Original Broadway Production. Hear Leigh talk being a behind the scenes dance captain, how each show had to adapt to each theater, and some of the crazy tour stories. Plus, Leigh shares some fun stories about celebrities who came to visit backstage on tour. Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
36:5109/01/2024
Ep146 - Nancy Melius, Rumpleteazer on US National Tour 4

Ep146 - Nancy Melius, Rumpleteazer on US National Tour 4

"As a kitten, I want to go up on that tire. I don't know where it's going or anything like that, but why can't I go up there? It looks like a fun ride, right?" This episode features Nancy Melius who played Rumpleteazer on the US National Tour 4 of CATS. Hear Nancy talk about her auditions before booking the show, how each dance movement has a specific meaning, and how she interpreted the relationship for Mungojerrie and Rumpleteazer. Plus, Nancy shares crazy stories about how their bus and theater caught on fire on tour. Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
45:5719/12/2023
Ep145 - Kevin & Leslie Harvey, Syllabub & Stage Manager on US National Tour 4 & Original Broadway Production

Ep145 - Kevin & Leslie Harvey, Syllabub & Stage Manager on US National Tour 4 & Original Broadway Production

"​​The first thing we did when we got the new programs to get ready to sell for the first show is we opened up all the inserts to check out the girls in the show. As we went through the girls in the show, I picked out Leslie's picture, and I said, I'm gonna marry that one." This episode features Kevin & Leslie Harvey who met on the US National Tour 4 of CATS. Hear Kevin and Leslie (Trayer) tell the story of how they met on tour, how Leslie played Syllabub while Kevin was selling merchandise for the show, how Kevin went on to be a stage manager for CATS on Broadway, and a ton of other crazy stories. Plus, Kevin tells his wild story about his run in with the police in New Orleans. Check out Kevin's company: senovva.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
58:0712/12/2023
Ep144 - Sam Larielle-Jones, Quaxo in Willoughby Theatre Company

Ep144 - Sam Larielle-Jones, Quaxo in Willoughby Theatre Company

"​​This production is something that you’ve never seen before." This episode features Sam Larielle-Jones who plays Quaxo in Australia's Willoughby Theatre Company production of CATS. Hear Sam talk about how his production differs from previous versions, how he created his character story for Quaxo and how he got involved with this particular production. Plus, Sam shares the synopsis that was shared at his cast's first rehearsal including the three themes the story centers around. Check out Sam on Instagram: @dancersam_91 Check out Sam on Facebook: Dancer Sam Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
52:4005/12/2023
Ep143 - Helen, Lauren, & Steve Watkins, The CATS Family

Ep143 - Helen, Lauren, & Steve Watkins, The CATS Family

"​​At the end of the show after the bows when the cats sort of dance offstage I remember we were dancing together and then he picked me up and twirled me. He carried me offstage and that's one of my favorite memories from that show." On the US National Tour 4 of CATS, Helen Frank was performing as Demeter and Bombalurina and Steve Watkins was in the CATS Chorus where they met and married on tour. Fast forward to 2014 and their daughter Lauren, who was 17 at the time, performed with Steve in the Casa Mañana Theatre regional production of CATS in Texas where they performed as Syllabub and Gus. Hear the Watkins family discuss their experience as a family doing the show, along with really fun stories from their time together on stage. Check out Lauren on Instagram: @lauren___watkins Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
49:4328/11/2023
Ep142 - General McArthur Hambrick, Alonzo on Original Broadway Production & US National Tour 4

Ep142 - General McArthur Hambrick, Alonzo on Original Broadway Production & US National Tour 4

"I couldn't wait to learn the shadow dance. I got to rehearsal and it wasn't happening. I finally got up enough nerve and I went up to T Michael Reed and said, ‘am I going to learn the shadow dance?’ And he said, ‘we don't do that on the tour.’" This episode features General McArthur Hambrick who played Alonzo in the Original Broadway Production and on the US National Tour 4 of CATS. Hear General talk about his auditions for the US National Tour 3 before getting cast in the 4th tour, how there is a section of the Alonzo dance behind Demeter that wasn't on tour but that he got to do on Broadway, and what it was like making his Broadway debut at the Winter Garden. Plus, General shares a fun story about the time he got to cover for Tugger. Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
50:0521/11/2023
Ep141 - Maria Briggs, Victoria on 2016 Broadway Revival & Ensemble in SPAMALOT

Ep141 - Maria Briggs, Victoria on 2016 Broadway Revival & Ensemble in SPAMALOT

"I got to final callbacks and I was like, I should maybe watch this cause I don't know what I'm auditioning for. I got to Mungo and Rump and then I don't even think I finished it." This episode features Maria Briggs who performed as a swing and as Victoria in the 2016 Broadway Revival of CATS and is currently in the ensemble of SPAMALOT. Hear Maria discuss how she twice booked tours of CATS but did not take the jobs, what it was like making a Broadway debut as Tantomile, and how surreal it was to perform The Music Man in the Winter Garden Theatre knowing the CATS history. Plus, Maria shares a little about what to expect in her upcoming show SPAMALOT. Check out Maria on Instagram: @mariarbriggs Check out SPAMALOT on Instagram: @spamalotbway Check out SPAMALOT on Broadway: spamalotthemusical.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
01:04:4114/11/2023
Ep140 - Shane Hall, Mr. Mistoffelees on US National Tour 5

Ep140 - Shane Hall, Mr. Mistoffelees on US National Tour 5

"I didn’t know who Pouncival was from a hole in the wall." This episode features Shane Hall who played the magical Mr. Mistoffelees on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear Shane talk about how he fell asleep the first time he saw CATS, how he learned the show with just one other cast member, the different ways Mr. Mistoffelees entered the stage, and some really fun stories from life on tour. Plus, Shane shares a really cool story about how the costumes changed to make the dancing a little easier. Check out Shane on Instagram: @shanehallcreates Check out Shane's Dance Studio on Instagram: @prodigydancecentrega Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
50:1107/11/2023
Ep139 - Lynette Tompkins Engel, Tantomile in Hamburg Production

Ep139 - Lynette Tompkins Engel, Tantomile in Hamburg Production

"In the ball, most of the names stay the same. Copeland was Copeland, Jutters was Jutters. But I believe in the States, there's a section called American Airlines and in Germany it was Lufthansa." This episode features Lynette Tompkins Engel who was Tantomile in the Hamburg Production of CATS. Hear Lynette discuss learning the show in German, how she was taught to perform as a cat (including not meowing), and a super fun story about how covers had to sit at certain restaurants to wait for a call in case they were needed. Plus, Lynette shares a cool fact about how different parts of the ball have different names depending on the production. Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
52:3331/10/2023
Ep138 - Harry Francis, Mungojerrie in West End Revival & Mr. Mistoffelees on International Tour

Ep138 - Harry Francis, Mungojerrie in West End Revival & Mr. Mistoffelees on International Tour

"People talk about the ‘I Want’ song in a musical. CATS is full of ‘I Am’ songs and that is the biggest difference with this show compared to a lot of others." This episode features Harry Francis who played Mungojerrie in the West End Revival as well as Mr. Mistoffelees on the International tour and regional production of CATS. Hear Harry share his experiences working with the incredible Gillian Lynne, what it was like getting to perform with the infamous "Street Tugger," how he was allowed to do his turns the opposite way, and stories from all of the times he's performed the show. Plus, Harry shares how he was able to create "CATS in Quarantine" during the pandemic as a way to celebrate the show have hundreds of dancers perform the ball virtually. Check out Harry on Social Media: @harryrfrancis Watch CATS in Quarantine: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cxwl84Ep5c Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
59:4524/10/2023
Ep137 - Stan Stanley, Rum Tum Tugger on US National Tour 5

Ep137 - Stan Stanley, Rum Tum Tugger on US National Tour 5

"I didn't really get into the headspace of what the character Tugger was until probably a month or two into the run because I was so concerned about the logistics of being there and doing this and singing this and making sure my riffs were right." This episode features Stan Stanley who was the Rum Tum Tugger on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear Stan discuss how his vocal coach got him into the audition process, how the CATS are numbered in the production, and some fun stories from his tour. Plus, Stan discusses how he dated his Mr. Mistoffelees on tour adding more fuel to Tuggoffelees rumors. Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
56:0817/10/2023
BONUS - Lauren Buege, Cinnamon in Arrowhead High School Center for Arts

BONUS - Lauren Buege, Cinnamon in Arrowhead High School Center for Arts

"Once I got the list, I think I chose cinnamon because it was fall and I think I just probably added it always to my Starbucks order." This BONUS episode features Lauren Buege who performed with our last guest Lexie Plath as Cinnamon in Arrowhead High School Center for Arts award winning production of CATS. Hear all of the fun that went into creating a show with over 40 ensemble cats and some of the memories from the experience. Plus, Lauren makes her case for Old Deuteronomy as her Jellicle choice. Check out a snippet of Lauren's High School Production of CATS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eizS1BqiYgk Check out Pause 4 Paws' website: www.pause4pawsmn.org Check out Cats in the Cradle's website: www.catsinthecradle.rescuegroups.org Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
16:2213/10/2023
Ep136 - Lexie Plath, Bombalurina on US National Tour 6

Ep136 - Lexie Plath, Bombalurina on US National Tour 6

"In high school we had a huge ensemble. More than a normal show and they gave everyone random names. My best friend Lauren was Cinnamon. And then I remember we had a whole day where we had to create our own backstory for our character." This episode features Lexie Plath who played Bombalurina on the US National Tour 6 of CATS in 2019 and in an award winning production in high school. Hear Lexie talk about her audition process as a "shorter" Bombalurina, how her three words changed her thoughts on how to play her character, and some really fun stories from her life on tour. Plus, Lexie and Mike spend a lot of time discussing her high school's production of CATS which won the USA Today Best High School Musical in 2008. Check out Lexie on Instagram: @lexie.plath Check out Lexie on Tik Tok: @readinginthewings Check out a snippet of Lexie's High School Production of CATS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eizS1BqiYgk Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
46:3610/10/2023
Ep135 - Natasha Davison, Victoria on US National Tour 4

Ep135 - Natasha Davison, Victoria on US National Tour 4

"From the lips of Gillian Lynne. What she said about Victoria is that she is a pulsating plum ready to be picked." This episode features Natasha Davison who was Victoria on the US National Tour 4. Hear Natasha talk about how she paused a producing career to join the CATS tour, how she was explained Victoria's backstory, and some sound advice she was given on other tours that applies to CATS. Plus, Natasha shares a very unique thought on how "stage time" impacts how to view Grizabella being welcomed back into the tribe. Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
01:01:5703/10/2023
Ep134 - Paul Giarratano, Mr. Mistoffelees on US National Tour 6

Ep134 - Paul Giarratano, Mr. Mistoffelees on US National Tour 6

"For Misto, to me, he always felt like he was ‘periphery’ to the tribe. He's definitely a part of the tribe but he comes and goes when he pleases. And then when he needs to show off and do something fun or cool or help the cats out with some magic, he's like, I got you guys." This episode features Paul Giarratano who played the magical Mr. Mistoffelees on the US National Tour 6 of CATS. Hear Paul discussing what the audition process was like during covid, how he was introduced to the Mistoffelees story, some fun stories from being on tour, and how his dance track gave him some spots to breathe before his number near the end of the show. Plus, Paul asks all of the most important questions about the Jellicle choice before picking Gus. Check out Paul on Instagram: @paul_giarratano Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
42:1826/09/2023
Ep133 - Lee Lobenhofer, Gus on US National Tour 4

Ep133 - Lee Lobenhofer, Gus on US National Tour 4

"I went in and spent two days listening to the story of the cats and the interrelationships of all the characters. You know, Tugger and Munkustrap are brothers. They're all sons of Old Deuteronomy. And then, they follow it up with, but none of this is important for the audience to know." This episode features Lee Lobenhofer who was Gus on the US National Tour 4 and was in the CATS Chorus in the original Broadway Production. Hear Lee talk about spending two full days learning the story (but it's not for the audience), the times he got to go on as Old Deuteronomy, the legend of Ray's makeup expertise, a few other fun stories from tour, and how he got to dance in sections of the show as "GeneriGUS." Plus, Lee shares how his father influenced the way he performed as Gus each night. Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
50:4719/09/2023
Ep132 - Lucy Rice, Swing on Asia Tour 2022-2023

Ep132 - Lucy Rice, Swing on Asia Tour 2022-2023

"Especially going through the rehearsal process as well. Every single little moment has a meaning, which was crazy to me. A lot of the time the audience wouldn't even see that. But in order for us to be able to tell an authentic story in a way of being cats, we had to know all these little things." This episode features Lucy Rice who was Bombalurina on Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas production of CATS and then was a swing on the 2022-2023 Asia Tour of CATS performing in Taiwan. Hear Lucy share learning the show from scratch, the differences she saw between the cruise and Asia Tour audiences, and why Gus is her Jellicle choice. Plus, Lucy shares some of the fun stories from being able to do Tik Toks in CATS costume. Check out Lucy on Social Media: @lucyrice98 Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
48:1312/09/2023
Ep131 - Joey Abramowicz, Tumblebrutus on US National Tour 5

Ep131 - Joey Abramowicz, Tumblebrutus on US National Tour 5

"I learned the show in six days. I remember telling the sound guy at Westchester the day I went on. I said don't turn my microphone on because I don’t know all the words yet." This episode features Joey Abramowicz who was Tumblebrutus on the US National Tour 5 and in 9 other regional productions of CATS. Hear Joey talk about his time in the various different productions, how he worked to help cast CATS with Marc Robin who has a slightly different take on the plot, and many other CATS theories. Plus, Joey shares all of the various different scenes used for the Junkyard and fun ways Grizabella ascended to the Heaviside Layer in various productions. Check out Joey on Instagram: @joeytumble Check out the Fulton Theatre: thefulton.org Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
55:2205/09/2023
Ep130 - Julie Klausner, Writer, Comedian, Actress, CATS Fan

Ep130 - Julie Klausner, Writer, Comedian, Actress, CATS Fan

"It was the first Broadway show I ever went to and it is probably responsible for my personality." This episode features the amazingly talented writer, comedian, actress, and CATS fan Julie Klausner. Hear Julie discuss her fandom of the musical, it's influence on the rest of pop culture, and her CATS party trick. Plus, Julie and Mike have a detailed conversation on what it means to ascend to the Heaviside Layer and Julie gives a passionate defense for Grizabella as her Jellicle Choice. Check out Julie on social media: @julieklausner Check out the Double Threat Podcast: foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/double-threat/ Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
01:02:0329/08/2023
Ep129 - Aiden Pressel, Plato/Macavity on US National Tour 6

Ep129 - Aiden Pressel, Plato/Macavity on US National Tour 6

"Princely Plato. He’s the price and kind to everyone. Flirtatious and fun but a teenager. And then you get to do a little quick change and jump into Macavity which is the super villain." This episode features Aiden Pressel who was Plato/Macavity on the 6th US National Tour of CATS. Hear Aiden discuss doing the tour promotional video before even being cast, the backstory behind the Plato/Victoria love story, and why his Jellice choice is Gus. Plus, Aiden and Mike dive deep into the Plato backstory. Check out Aiden on Instagram: @aidenpressel Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
47:4822/08/2023
Ep128 - Jaime Lyn Beatty & Jon Matteson, Spadattimy: The Reliable Cat

Ep128 - Jaime Lyn Beatty & Jon Matteson, Spadattimy: The Reliable Cat

"I literally couldn't remember Macavity's name because their names are all so ridiculously complicated. I really think that that was the seed of the idea. It truly came from a - what the f*** is that one cat with the spooky song." This episode features Jaime Lyn Beatty and Jon Matteson who created the viral YouTube video Spadattimy: The Reliable Cat and are big CATS fans. Hear Jamie and Jon discuss the nuances of the plot, the genesis of their video, and all kinds of funny stories from the time working together. Plus, a strong Old Deuteronomy case is made for the Jellicle choice. Check out Jamie Lyn Beatty on social media: @jlbeatty Check out Jamie Lyn Beatty's website: jlynbeatty.com Check out Jon Matteson on social media: @jon.matteson Check out Spadattimy: The Reliable Cat on YouTube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=waNlyGpMURU Check out Professor Birthday: linktr.ee/professorbirthday Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
01:04:2915/08/2023
Ep127 - Tucker Ty Davis, Spike on US National Tour 5

Ep127 - Tucker Ty Davis, Spike on US National Tour 5

"It was just a brown and gray generic cat. They made my shoes still in Spike colors but they made them look like the shoes like Alonzo would wear or Pouncival would wear so that when I was on stage I could look down at my feet and not get confused about which cat I was playing that day at that show." This episode features Tucker Ty Davis who played the infamous Spike as a swing on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear Tucker explain the internet lore of Spike, how the cast made the most of Spike, and some other Spike theories. Plus, Tucker shares his experience doing CATS over 800 times in other various productions. Check out Tucker on Instagram: @tuckdavis Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
52:0009/08/2023
BONUS - Chris Adams, Out For Blood

BONUS - Chris Adams, Out For Blood

"You know when people say they can taste colors… I kind of get that with CATS in a weird way." This episode features fellow Broadway Podcast Network podcast host Chris Adams who hosts a show called Out For Blood about the infamous Carrie musical. Hear Chris share the similarities between Carrie and CATS, how the 80s musicals all influenced each other, and a few other fun CATS crossovers with Carrie. Plus, Chris shares more information about how he's documented his story with a new book! Check out Out For Blood on Social Media: @outforbloodpodcast Check out Chris on Instagram: @chrisa31 Check out Chris on Twitter: @chrisa Check out the Out For Blood podcast: broadwaypodcastnetwork.com/podcast/out-for-blood Check out the Out For Blood book: https://linktr.ee/outforbloodpod Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
39:3201/08/2023
LIVE: Debating CATS Canon at BroadwayCon 2023 with Jonalyn Saxer, Hank Santos, and The Theater Lovers Will & Rachael

LIVE: Debating CATS Canon at BroadwayCon 2023 with Jonalyn Saxer, Hank Santos, and The Theater Lovers Will & Rachael

LIVE from BroadwayCon 2023 in New York City! Mike was joined by an amazing panel of Jonalyn Saxer (Swing in 2016 Broadway Revival and episode 29), Hank Santos (Rum Tum Tugger in US National Tour 6 and episode 126), and Will and Rachael (meme-making founders of The Theater Lovers and episode 125) to have the greatest CATS debate in Jellicle history. We split into two teams and discussed all of the controversial theories throughout the CATS fandom making sure to get audience input. After listening to the episode, let us know on social media if you were Team Tugger or Team Bombalurina based on the debate answers. Check out Jonalyn on Social Media: @jksaxer Check out Hank on Social Media: @hanksantos Check out The Theater Lovers on Social Media: @the_theater_lovers Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Social Media: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
01:00:4928/07/2023
Ep126 - Hank Santos, Rum Tum Tugger on US National Tour 6

Ep126 - Hank Santos, Rum Tum Tugger on US National Tour 6

"Me and Misto are homies. We have a little handshake that’s like a finger flip. Very nineties kind of surfer moment." This episode features Hank Santos who was the Rum Tum Tugger on the 6th US National Tour of CATS. Hear Hank discuss Tuggers relationships with the other cats, his life on tour, and his belief in the Tugger-Teazer relationship possibilities. Plus, Hank shares a fun story about how his Gus made jokes about not being the Jellicle choice. Check out Hank on Instagram: @hanksantos Check out Hank on Tik Tok: @seveninsummer Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
57:1425/07/2023
Ep125 - The Theater Lovers, Theatrical Meme-Makers

Ep125 - The Theater Lovers, Theatrical Meme-Makers

"I like to ask the question in theater, is this a good character or a good song? Don't confuse a good song with a good man." This episode features The Theater Lovers Will and Rachael who are two of the funniest theater content creators in the game today. Hear Will and Rachael discuss how they got into theater meme making, some of the fun hidden gems in their content, how they approach content on different platforms, and their thoughts on CATS. Plus, Rachael reveals the secret that she has been the infamous "Rachael" behind the CATS musical instagram account who Mike has been having conversations with for months! Check out The Theater Lovers on Instagram: @the_theater_lovers Check out The Theater Lovers on Tik Tok: @the_theater_lovers Check out The Theater Lovers on Twitter: @theater_lovers Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
01:06:3018/07/2023
Ep124 - Jean Michelle Sayeg, Victoria on US National Tour 5

Ep124 - Jean Michelle Sayeg, Victoria on US National Tour 5

"Where was the little white pussycat, grand darling? Come here. And it was like the parting of the seas and I was like, oh my gosh." This episode features Jean Michelle Sayeg who played Victoria on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear Jean Michelle discuss watching the 1998 movie the night before auditions, what it was like transitioning from ballet to musical theater, and some of her theories on Victoria's story. Plus, hear Jean Michelle introduce us to "Spike" the swing cat who causes chaos. Check out Jean Michelle on Instagram: @jmsayeg Check out Jean Michelle on Tik Tok: @jeanmichellesayeg Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
47:4611/07/2023
Ep123 - Andrew Wilson, Tumblebrutus on 2016 Broadway Revival & Richard Parker in Life of Pi

Ep123 - Andrew Wilson, Tumblebrutus on 2016 Broadway Revival & Richard Parker in Life of Pi

"I did a lot of character study with Tumblebrutus and I chose that he was abandoned and his way of surviving the trauma of losing his family was to just really lash out." This episode features Andrew Wilson who was Tumblebrutus in the 2016 Broadway Revival of CATS and is currently Richard Parker in Life of Pi on Broadway. Hear Andrew discuss doing the show four different times, how the choreography is mostly different due to the way the dancing is tied to the lighting, his love for Bustopher Jones, and why he thinks everyone is the Jellicle choice. Plus, Andrew and Mike dig into Life of Pi and it's parallels to CATS. Check out Andrew on Instagram: @andrewwilsonny Check out Life of Pi: lifeofpibway.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
57:2405/07/2023
Ep122 - Carolyn Bacon, Swing on US National Tour 6 and Rachel in Friends! The Musical Parody

Ep122 - Carolyn Bacon, Swing on US National Tour 6 and Rachel in Friends! The Musical Parody

"The Friends are very Jellicle. I find them as a community to be very Jellicle." This episode features Carolyn Bacon who was a swing on the 6th US National Tour of CATS and is currently Rachel Green in Friends! The Musical Parody. Hear Carolyn discuss singing multiple tracks in the booth, her experience working with Chrissie Cartwright, and why Gus is her Jellicle choice. Plus, Carolyn and Mike compare the CATS to the Friends characters. Check out Carolyn on Instagram: @carolyn.bacon Check out Carolyn on Tik Tok: @det3ctivebac0n Check out Carolyn website: www.carolynannebacon.com Check out Friends! The Musical Parody: www.friendsoffbroadway.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
01:02:3127/06/2023
Ep121 - Lewberger: The Wizard of Friendship

Ep121 - Lewberger: The Wizard of Friendship

"There is so much of The Wizard of Friendship that is really based off our friendship and our history, like who we are as people." This episode features musical comedy trio Lewberger (Hughie Stone Fish, Keith Habersberger and Alex Lewis) who recently finished their hilarious sold-out off-Broadway show The Wizard of Friendship which featured special guests Wayne Brady, Alex Brightman, and Dashaun Wesley. Lewberger joined Mike to discuss Broadway, CATS, and their upcoming original cast recording of Lewberger: The Wizard of Friendship which releases on June 23rd. Plus, Lewberger and Mike play a game called "three of us know the CAT and one of us doesn't." Check out Lewberger on Social Media: @Lewberger Check out Lewberger's website: lewbergercomedy.com Check out Hughie Stone Fish on Social Media: @HughieStoneFish Check out Keith Habersberger on Social Media: @KeithHabs Check out Alex Lewis on Social Media: @i8athumbtack Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
51:4220/06/2023
Ep120 - Jessica Hendy, Grizabella in Original Broadway Production & Creator of Walking with Bubbles

Ep120 - Jessica Hendy, Grizabella in Original Broadway Production & Creator of Walking with Bubbles

"My introduction to CATS was when I took piano as a kid and Memory was the first song I ever learned to play on the piano." This episode features Jessica Hendy who performed as Grizabella on the US National Tour 4, the Original Broadway Production, and the 2016 Broadway Revival of CATS and is currently performing her one woman show Walking With Bubbles. Hear Jessica discuss her experience performing both the old and new choreography, her experience coming in as a replacement Grizabella, and how she would alternate the ending of CATS. Plus, Jessica shares what to expect when you come see Walking With Bubbles. Check out Jessica on Social Media: @jesshendy Check out Walking WIth Bubbles on Instagram: @walkingwithbubblesofficial Check out Walking With Bubbles on Tik Tok: @walkingwithbubbles Check out Walking With Bubbles: walkingwithbubbles.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
41:3113/06/2023
Ep119 - Maggie McCown, Bombalurina in City Springs Theatre Company

Ep119 - Maggie McCown, Bombalurina in City Springs Theatre Company

"I distinctly remember every time I had to stay home from school sick my mom would put on the VHS of CATS." This episode features Maggie McCown who performed as Bombalurina in the City Springs Theatre Company regional production of CATS in Atlanta. Hear Maggie discuss how she learned about the show from the legendary Jacob Brent, some of the relationships her cast has created for the cats, and how she embraced CATS Tik Tok. Plus, Maggie and Mike discuss the similarities between CATS and A Chorus Line. Check out Maggie on Instagram: @maggie_mccown Check out Maggie on Tik Tok: @xoxomaggiemc Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
53:1606/06/2023
BONUS - Nick Rizzo, Bombalurina on 2023 Taylor Swift Eras Tour

BONUS - Nick Rizzo, Bombalurina on 2023 Taylor Swift Eras Tour

"There is a beat in the song where she isn't singing and she just mouths to me - Oh My God" This BONUS episode features Nick Rizzo who went to the MetLife Taylor Swift Eras Tour dressed as Bombalurina. Hear Nick tell the story of how he was able to get Taylor's attention on stage, the crowd reaction to his outfit, and what it was like traveling to the concert through downtown Brooklyn. Plus, hear Nick share his thoughts on the 2019 CATS movie. Check out Nick on Social Media: @nickrizzo815 Check out Nick's Viral Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@nickrizzo815/video/7238237457379020074 Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
26:5603/06/2023
Ep118 - Leslie Blake Walker, Sillabub in Arrow Rock Lyceum Theatre Regional Production & Ensemble in Funny Girl

Ep118 - Leslie Blake Walker, Sillabub in Arrow Rock Lyceum Theatre Regional Production & Ensemble in Funny Girl

"CATS has been in my blood since I was three years old." This episode features Leslie Blake Walker who performed as Sillabub as a ten year old in the Arrow Rock Lyceum Theatre regional production of CATS and is currently in the ensemble in Funny Girl on Broadway. Hear Leslie discuss her experience being cast as a ten year old in a show full of adults, her thoughts on the different choreography, and her passionate defense for Gus as the Jellicle choice. Plus, Leslie and Mike discuss which cat matches which Funny Girl character. Check out Leslie on Instagram: @leslieblakewalker Check out Leslie on Tik Tok: @legsliebw Check out Leslie's website: leslieblakewalker.com Check out Funny Girl: funnygirlonbroadway.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
51:4830/05/2023
Ep117 - Yoanna Nikolova, Playbill Horoscopes Author

Ep117 - Yoanna Nikolova, Playbill Horoscopes Author

"One pet peeve I have is when I see a movie say which character falls in which zodiac sign and every sign is represented. Highly unlikely." This episode features Yoanna Nikolova who writes horoscopes for Playbill. It's been a goal of mine to discuss the CATS astrology and zodiac signs ever since I found them on the head cannon page of the CATS wikipedia fan website. Yoanna takes us through every single zodiac sun sign and we discuss which cat should be which sign. Plus, Yoanna and Mike discuss why there is no money in the CATS world so we create the Jellicle dollar. Check out Yoanna on Instagram: @yoannrocks Check out Yoanna's Playbill Horoscopes: www.playbill.com/category/-11 Shout out to Ray (@a.lfreedom on Instagram) for the artwork in the graphic! Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
53:3423/05/2023
Ep116 - Ed Kingsley Wade, Rum Tum Tugger on UK/International Tour

Ep116 - Ed Kingsley Wade, Rum Tum Tugger on UK/International Tour

"She asked who we thought should go to heaven and I immediately put my hand up and said I think it should be the Rum Tum Tugger." This episode features Ed Kingsley Wade who played the Rum Tum Tugger on the most recent UK/International Tour of CATS. Hear Ed discuss how we was put into the South Korea production in two days, how he helped influence a change to help with inclusivity, and his passionate argument for Gus as his Jellicle choice. Plus, Ed and Mike discuss ideas for CATS 2 including an entire musical that Ed wrote. Check out Ed on Instagram: @edkingsleywade Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
01:00:0116/05/2023
Ep115 - McCree O'Kelley, Mr. Mistoffelees on US National Tour 5

Ep115 - McCree O'Kelley, Mr. Mistoffelees on US National Tour 5

"I remember one night this lady at the end of Memory yelled out - SING IT AGIN!" This episode features McCree O'Kelley who played the magical Mr. Mistoffelees to kick off the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear McCree discuss how he knew he wanted to be a dancer after seeing Mistoffelees perform in CATS on Broadway during his 6th grade trip, share some wild stories about doing previews in Atlantic City, and how he lived out a real live Tuggoffelees on tour dating his Rum Tum Tugger. Plus, hear McCree share his experience being on tour during September 11th and how that changed their traveling. Check out McCree on Instagram: @mccreeok Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
50:0809/05/2023
Ep114 - Ella Kemp, Rumpleteazer on UK/International Tour

Ep114 - Ella Kemp, Rumpleteazer on UK/International Tour

"You become a cat when you get your costume on." This episode features Ella Kemp who played Rumpleteazer on the most recent UK/International Tour of CATS. Hear Ella discuss her introduction to CATS, her Rumpleteazer theories, and why she thinks Grizabella is the correct Jellicle choice. Plus, Ella and Mike discuss which cat would be best competing in Eurovision. Check out Ella on Instagram: @ellaa.kemp Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
39:0802/05/2023
Ep113 - Haley Fish, Rumpleteazer on 2016 Broadway Revival & Ensemble in New York, New York

Ep113 - Haley Fish, Rumpleteazer on 2016 Broadway Revival & Ensemble in New York, New York

"It's probably the hardest thing I'll do in my life. I loved it." This episode features Haley Fish who was Rumpleteazer in the 2016 Broadway Revival of CATS. Hear Haley discuss doing a middle school production of CATS in Kentucky growing up, making her Broadway debut in CATS, and why Gus is her Jellicle choice. Plus, Haley talks about what to expect when you come to see her in the new Broadway show New York, New York. Check out Haley on Instagram: @oh_hayfish Check out Haley on Tik Tok: @haleyfish7 Check out Haley's website: www.haleycfish.com Check out New York, New York: www.newyorknewyorkbroadway.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram/Twitter/Tik Tok: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
59:5725/04/2023
Ep112 - Christine Bogle, CATS Superfan & Memorabilia Collector

Ep112 - Christine Bogle, CATS Superfan & Memorabilia Collector

"If you are a beginning collector and you want to collect for CATS, you're going to get a pair of shoes." This episode features CATS memorabilia collector and superfan Christine Bogle. Hear Christine talk about being how she first became a fan of CATS, her experience seeing the show the very first time as a kid, and all about her expansive memorabilia collection. Plus, Christine gives explanation on why Cassandra and Plato are her Jellicle choices. Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
58:1218/04/2023
Ep111 - Adam Steiner & Cara Cooley, Rum Tum Tugger & Bombalurina on US National Tour 5

Ep111 - Adam Steiner & Cara Cooley, Rum Tum Tugger & Bombalurina on US National Tour 5

"Because of all of the relationships offstage with the cast members, it really does change the show a lot." This episode features Adam Steiner and Cara Cooley who played the Rum Tum Tugger and Bombalurina on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear Adam and Cara share how they started dating during the show, how their 8 days off in Vegas really solidified their relationship, and all of the moments where their romance took off on tour before their marriage. Plus, hear Adam reveal his hilarious audition song since he went into the audition with no expectations. Check out Cara on Instagram: @caracooley Check out Cara on Tik Tok: @cardiobycara Check out Cara's website: www.cardiobycara.com Check out Adam on Instagram: @thecampusshop Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
49:4211/04/2023
Ep110 - Darren Tyler, Skimbleshanks on Australia/Asia Tour

Ep110 - Darren Tyler, Skimbleshanks on Australia/Asia Tour

"You were amongst other performers at their peak because you had to be to be in this show." This episode features Darren Tyler who played Pouncival in the South Korea Tent Tour of CATS and Skimbleshanks on the Australia/Asia Tour of CATS. Hear Darren discuss how his family hated the show when they first saw it, how the cast had to crawl around sewage in Korea, and a fun story about how the director got the cast to hiss at Grizabella. Plus, Darren compares a bunch of the cats to Sex And The City characters. Check out Darren on Instagram: @darren_a_tyler Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
52:3404/04/2023
Ep109 - Robin Masella, Demeter on 2016 Broadway Revival & Swing in Bad Cinderella

Ep109 - Robin Masella, Demeter on 2016 Broadway Revival & Swing in Bad Cinderella

"I was one of those little girls that danced around the living room to the record of CATS and my mom would yell at me not to jump because it would make the record skip." This episode features Robin Masella who was Demeter in the 2016 Broadway Revival of CATS. Hear Robin discuss her thoughts on Demeter, the relationships she played throughout the show, and her defense of Grizabella for her Jellicle choice. Plus, Robin talks about what to expect when you come to see her in Andrew Lloyd Webber's new show Bad Cinderella. Check out Robin on Instagram: @robinmasella Check out Bad Cinderella: www.badcinderellabroadway.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
46:1821/03/2023
Ep108 - Jackey Good, Jellylorum on Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas

Ep108 - Jackey Good, Jellylorum on Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas

"In 7th grade English we had to memorize a poem and then recite it in front of the class. I cheated a little bit and did the Naming of CATS." This episode features Jackey Good who played Jellylorum on Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas. Hear Jackey talk about how she was given just three words and a paragraph about Jelly's backstory, share theories on Jellylorum and Jennyanydots, call Jelly Gus' wardrobe intern, and discuss Jelly's lack of interest in the male cats. Plus, hear Jackey talk about how the cruise ship was built around the tire and how that impacted how they did the Heaviside Layer. Check out Jackey on Instagram: @jackeygood Check out Jackey's website: JackeyGood.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
48:4314/03/2023
Ep107 - Daniel Assetta, Rum Tum Tugger (Street Cat) on Australia/New Zealand Tour

Ep107 - Daniel Assetta, Rum Tum Tugger (Street Cat) on Australia/New Zealand Tour

"A lot of people were skeptical of the Street Tugger but I think I managed to persuade them through my energy and the way I wanted to convey the character that it did work." This episode features Daniel Assetta who played the infamous Street Cat version of the Rum Tum Tugger on the Australia/New Zealand tour. Hear Daniel discus how he was asked to hip hop dance in his audition, how the role of the Street Cat even came to life, and how he found inspiration for the role. Plus, hear Daniel talk about helping create portions of his choreography for the break dance part and Mike share how often he has meme'd Daniel's image. Check out Daniel on Instagram & Tik Tok: @dassetta Check out Daniel's website: www.danielassetta.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
57:1207/03/2023
EP106 - Richard Poole, Gus in Original Broadway Production (Part of Phantom February)

EP106 - Richard Poole, Gus in Original Broadway Production (Part of Phantom February)

This February of 2023, we are honoring closing of Phantom of the Opera on Broadway by partnering with Phantom to chat with Phantom CATS. This episode features Richard Poole who was Gus on the US National Tours 1, 2, and 4 as well as the Original Broadway Production. Hear Richard discuss his experience in four different productions of CATS, what it was like doing four different Andrew Lloyd Webber shows, and some of the perks of being part of CATS during its peak run. Plus, hear Richard talk about his experience working on Phantom of the Opera. Check out Phantom of the Opera on Broadway: us.thephantomoftheopera.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
48:5724/02/2023
Ep105 - Maree Johnson, Grizabella on Australian Circus Tent Tour (Part of Phantom February)

Ep105 - Maree Johnson, Grizabella on Australian Circus Tent Tour (Part of Phantom February)

This February of 2023, we are honoring closing of Phantom of the Opera on Broadway by partnering with Phantom to chat with Phantom CATS. This episode features Maree Johnson who was Grizabella in the Australian Circus Tour. Hear Maree discuss the nuances of the Circus Tour, what it was like being a "guest" Grizabella, and studying TS Eliot growing up. Plus, hear Maree talk about her experience working on Phantom of the Opera. Check out Maree on Instagram : @mareejohnsonactor Check out Maree's website: www.mareejohnson.com Check out Phantom of the Opera on Broadway: us.thephantomoftheopera.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
45:3720/02/2023
Ep104 - Bronson Norris Murphy, Gus on US National Tour 5 (Part of Phantom February)

Ep104 - Bronson Norris Murphy, Gus on US National Tour 5 (Part of Phantom February)

This February of 2023, we are honoring closing of Phantom of the Opera on Broadway by partnering with Phantom to chat with Phantom CATS. This episode features Bronson Norris Murphy who was Gus on the 5th US CATS National Tour. Hear Bronson discuss his first performance with only one day of rehearsal, how he came up with his Gus backstory, and the differences between playing Gus in a regional theater vs on tour. Plus, hear Bronson talk about his experience working on Phantom of the Opera. Check out Bronson on Instagram : @bronsonbiz Check out Bronson's website: www.bronsonnorrismurphy.com Check out Phantom of the Opera on Broadway: us.thephantomoftheopera.com Produced by: Alan Seales & Broadway Podcast Network Instagram & Twitter: @TheWrongCatDied Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
01:00:5717/02/2023