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Dr. Michelle Boland & Dr. Tim Richardt
The More Train, Less Pain podcast is hosted by Dr. Michelle Boland and Dr. Tim Richardt and is specifically designed around engineering the adaptable athlete. The podcast will bring you the most knowledgeable guests in the fields of strength and conditioning and physical therapy, as well as episodes consisting of topic “deep-dives”. Our aim is to elevate YOUR understanding as a movement professional, to give you the knowledge, and the tools to deliver an even better service to your people, whoever they may be.
S5E1: The 3 Mistakes Runners Make with Core Training
Michelle and Tim CRUNCH our way into Season 5 with a big hitting topic - core training for runners. In this episode, we discuss the following topics - why you should include the diaphragm and pelvic floor in your definition of the CORE, athletes needing gradients of tension, the definition of stability, isolated exercises vs. multi-joint, too much concentric core training leading to poor running technique, the core as a conduit for energy transfer, practical training strategies for runners, and much more.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
57:3725/11/2024
S4E25: Biggest Takeaways from Season 4
Sit down with Michelle and Tim as they discuss their biggest takeaways from Season 4, exploring specific preparation strategies for specific activities. In this episode, they discuss gym work for injury prevention, how the magic of programming is in the feedback, the value of unstructured activity, sport vs. individual analysis, and much more.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
53:0818/11/2024
S4E24: Treating & Training BJJ Players
More Train, Less Pain brings its arc on Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to a close- Tim (with newly functional vocal chords) hops on the mic solo to discuss key takeaways from both BJJ guests and how a strength coach or physical therapist ought to think about *actually* managing this population. What exercises are asymmetrically useful? What ranges of motion must we fight to maintain? How strong is strong enough? Is your client a gumby or a gorilla?!? All of these answered, and more, on this episode of More Train, Less Pain.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
58:3311/11/2024
S4E23: BJJ Gumbys and Gorillas with Jon Pope
Tim welcomes his second guest of More Train, Less Pain’s arc on Brazilian Jiu Jitsu; Jon Pope of Building the Elite. Jon is a former competitive BJJ player with a wealth of knowledge in program design. They get into the 3 basic archetypes of BJJ players and how to train each in the gym, the role of gym work in a BJJ player’s physical preparation strategy, the need to “own the middle” of the intensity continuum, how developing energy systems in this population looks an awful lot like training a miler, why a coach may choose a rower or an elliptical for certain energy system goals, and the silliness of “specificity” in training elite BJJ athletes.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:23:2504/11/2024
S4E22: Zen and The Art of Choke Submissions with Margaret Randolph
Tim sits down (on the gym floor, literally) with Margaret Randolph, owner of Ethos Colorado Training Center; Brazilian Jiu Jitsu player and coach of numerous BJJ athletes of all levels to continue More Train, Less Pain’s deep dive into the fine art of grappling, arm bars, and wrestling pajamas. They get into the worst gym advice for BJJ players, which strength movements are most important for this population, and the unique challenges of bolstering fitness attributes in the context of nonstop training and competition. If you’ve read it this far, go ahead and leave MTLP a review in your pod player of choice, and Michelle and Tim appreciate you listening!
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:24:0328/10/2024
S4E21: Tim Grapples with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
Our final 4 episode arc of Season 4 is here, this time focusing on Brazilian Jiu Jitsu! After a brief life/travel/learning recap, Tim dives right in to the topic du jour, covering sundry jiu jitsu content such as what the deal is with BJJ pajamas (the “Gi”), what is means to “pass someone’s guard”, the unique positional demands of competitive BJJ, the common problems a BJJ player may face with their mobility profile/energy system development/strength development, and what gym exercises may be obvious solutions.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
41:0721/10/2024
S4E20: Hip Replacement at 33
On today's episode, Michelle and Tim talk about his decision to move forward with hip surgery. Join us as we provide insight into the patient experience and how to stay fit in pain. During the episode we also discuss elements of mastery, three months of physical therapy outcomes for Tim, changing the structure of the hip, imaging vs. symptoms, consistency vs. progress, removing certainty, and body composition.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:02:4114/10/2024
S4E19: Pickleball Training & Preparation
Michelle and Tim review movement, sport skills, lifting strategies, and mobility drills for Pickleball. We tackle training and preparation strategies such as the usefulness of the “agility” ladder, creating a safe motor learning environment, forward orientation leading to Achilles and anterior knee injuries, incorporating ground contact variations, training the aging adult, and progressing to stepping into exercises.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
55:3107/10/2024
S4E18: The Pickleball Boom with Jem Morris
This episode’s a little different- as opposed to our typical biomechanical deep dives into the minutiae of hip rotation and shin angle changes, we’re joined by someone who’s coming at this cycle’s activity du jour (pickleball) from an experiential and play-based standpoint. Paired excellently with our past episode with Lee, in this episode Tim and Jem auger down on the strategic differences between the common racquet sports, differing physical demands of singles versus doubles, the explosion of pickleball’s popularity in the past decade, and the *worst* fitness advice Jem and Tim commonly hear recommended for pickleballers.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:28:2130/09/2024
S4E17: Pickleball for the Aging Adult with Lee Taft
Michelle steps into the speed cave with legendary coach Lee Taft to break down the skills and performance demands of Pickleball. They dial in their conversation to the unique considerations for the aging adult such as elasticity and fluidity limitations, using rehearsed vs. reactive drills, creating feel and feedback, becoming “stumble proof”, and taking fear away from movement. Lee also provides MAJOR insight into how to escape and attack space, move from stances to gait, and how to build a training session. This is an EPIC episode!
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:10:1323/09/2024
S4E16: Pickleball- Performance demands, designing training, & considerations for the aging adult
On today's episode, Michelle and Tim ACE all things Pickleball. The sport of Pickleball has EXPLODED and your clients are getting involved, so what do you need to know to arm yourself with the best training strategies? Well, we are here to help. Join us as we PADDLE on performance demands, training considerations, and programming for the aging adult. We discuss the importance of teaching people how to change levels, play within their base of support, and rotate. For the aging adult, we need to know our regressions, teach clients how to create intensity and recover, and address common injuries, so we can keep them in the gym, on the court, and out of the PT clinic. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:00:4716/09/2024
S4E15: Running UP Mountains - Michelle reviews Swiss Alps 100, ultrarunning, and specificity
Michelle goes solo to recap her Swiss Alps 100 Endurance Run experience. After months of training, she shares the lessons learned and the biggest takeaways - doing things for yourself, widening your spectrum of perspective, having skin in the game, the validity in athletic experience for coaching, seeking out experiences vs. being a competitor, and what’s next. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
41:0809/09/2024
S4E14: Summative Recommendations; Structuring Training, Strength, and Mobility for Optimal Climbing Health and Performance with Dr. Ethan Young, DPT
Tim sits down with Ethan to make one final push and send this 4 episode project on physical prep for climbers. Tune in to learn about their recommendations for structuring a climbing training session, programming gym work that doesn’t interfere with climbing health, and what high-leverage injury management advice Tim’s gleaned from the prior two guests and Ethan’s learned from his clinical work with climbers.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:09:4702/09/2024
S4E13: Make Climbing Fun (Again) with Climbing Coach Sarah Richardson
Tim brings on his second guest for MTLP’s 4 episode arc on physical prep and injury management for rock climbers, Climbing Performance Coach Sarah Richardson. They talk about the need to follow your stoke to stay engaged with the discipline, structuring a proper training session, specific warm up activities, and much, much more.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:28:0626/08/2024
S4E12: Crimping Variability, Titrating Tension, and Rethinking Climbing Injuries with Dr. Evan Ingerson, DPT
On episode 2 of MTLP’s 4 episode arc on physical prep and injury management for rock climbing, Tim hops on the mic with Dr. Evan Ingerson, climbing vagabond, PT entrepreneur, and owner of Send Again rehab. Tim picks Evan’s brain on what constitutes a proper movement assessment for climbing athletes, the need for motor variability in injury prevention, and what progression in a climbing rehab program ought to look like. Tune in for a spirited debate between two absolute climbing PT nerds!
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:40:3619/08/2024
S4E11: Physical Preparation and Injury Management for Climbers with Dr. Ethan Young, DPT
Tim is joined by his business partner, co-owner of Ascend Rehab and Performance (and pretty damn good climber) Ethan, and they set the stage for MTLP’s 4 episode arc on physical prep and injury management for all disciplines of rock climbing. Tim and Ethan get into, each of their personal journeys into climbing, the basic disciplines of rock climbing- sport, trad, bouldering, lead, etc…, characteristics of good climbers- mobility probiel, force production, mindset, common mistakes climbers seem to make in their non-climbing training, other “donor” activities that improve climbing performance, and thinking through common climbing injuries. Enjoy listening and stay sendy!
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:16:4312/08/2024
S4E10: Random Show LIVE from Colorado with Michelle & Tim: Coaching needs experience, data tracking, and expressive aesthetic in movement practice
On this week's episode Tim and Michelle meetup in Colorado for a live recording. After years of being virtual, Michelle and Tim get together to talk about the lessons Michelle learned from a four-day ultra running training camp in the mountains, their current points of interest, coaching, and much more. In this episode they discuss, the validity in athletic experience for coaching, making a conscious decision about the use of data, why the closer you get to your goal the more the details should matter, coaching athletes to be less rigid, the value of widening your perspective, finding the expressive aesthetic in your movement practice, and much more.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:10:0615/07/2024
S4E9: All Things Trail Running; Lessons learned, training recommendations, advice for strength coaches, & resources
Michelle smiles the whole way through this week’s episode about ALL THINGS TRAIL RUNNING. In this episode, Michelle tackles the final episode for the trail running series and discusses a few big points from our trail running coach guests Addison Smith and Anne Tisdell, she breaks down some training recommendations, competition variables, misconceptions, and additional resources. Michelle also provides advice for strength coaches and therapists who can use this information for their clients and patients.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
52:0308/07/2024
S4E8: Terrain, Time, & Perspective in Trail Running with Anne Tisdell
In this episode, we welcome trail and ultrarunning expert Anne Tisdell to the podcast. She specializes in running and coaching athletes in distances beyond 100 miles. On today's episode we dive into, trail running as an adventure, terrain as a variable to prepare for, her top 5 preparation strategies, time as a greater priority than miles, preparing as a means to reduce risk, how being a good racer means being a good problem solver, gaining perspective on your reality and using it, and much more.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…Season 4 is coming in HOT.
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
56:3301/07/2024
S4E7: Top 5 Strategies for Trail Running Preparation with Addison Smith
In this episode, we welcome trail running coach Addison Smith. Not only is he a part of an elite group of coaches at CTS, he also walks the walk in trail running, racing in the Golden Trail World Series and a vast number of 50k and 50 mile races. On today's episode we dive into variables that separate trail from road running, his top 5 preparation strategies, mindset training, and setting race expectations.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…Season 4 is coming in HOT.
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:00:2124/06/2024
S4E6: Trail Running Preparation & Unique Variables
Get hyped for Trail Running…because Michelle is ready to dive into specific preparation. In this episode of the MTLP podcast, Michelle introduces trail running and discusses how it differs from conventional road running, training preparation strategies, unique variables, five specific workouts to focus on, weight room supplementation, and how to log or track an athlete's training.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…Season 4 is coming in HOT.
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
46:4217/06/2024
S4E5: Road Racing Finale; Recommendations for Running, Mobility, and Strength
Michelle and Tim bring their 4 laps around the track (wink, wink) to their exciting yet inevitable conclusion. They take what they’ve learned from the 2 guests over this arc- Jason Fitzgerald and Zac Cupples- as well as a combined 20 years of experience working with road racers to give YOU actionable insights you can apply to your clients and patients tomorrow. Happy listening and healthy running!
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends!
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:03:3410/06/2024
S4E4: Zac Cupples- Road Racing, Running Asymmetries, and Jumping Rope
On this next installment of Tim and Michelle’s series on road racing, Tim brings on Zac Cupples. Zac’s a wealth of knowledge when it comes to personal racing experience, managing chronic running injuries, and designing strength programs so runners can stay healthy and continue to train and compete. Along the way, they go into several tangents including the torso integration hypothesis/heat dissipation, arm swing angles, and jumping rope. Happy listening and happy running!
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends!
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:11:5403/06/2024
S4E3: Jason Fitzgerald- How to Run More
We have a special guest with us on the podcast discussing all things conventional road running! Jason Fitzgerald is a successful podcaster himself as he hosts The Strength Running Podcast where he discusses the role of strength training for runners…so naturally, we like Jason. Jason is not only an athlete himself but he also coaches runners who want to improve their performance.
In this episode, we discuss Jason’s top preparation strategies including how to get people to run more, how to remove barriers to running more, and why he is adamant about strength training. Whether you have running clients, patients, or athletes you will get some big takeaways from this episode.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends!
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:00:3727/05/2024
S4E2: Road Running Preparation DEEP DIVE
Welcome to the Season 4 episode series for Conventional Road Running! Tim and I are getting specific with all things road running preparation for traditional distances such as the 5k, 10k, 1/2 and full marathon.
In this episode, we discuss biomechanical and energetic demands, how we define gait, Tim falls down a rabbit hole and does an impressive biomechanical deep dive into early, mid, and late stance mechanics at the foot and hip. We also discuss the impact of the swing leg and arm movement, running differences between wide vs. narrow structured individuals, the differences between road and trail running ground contacts, training considerations, and much more. Whether you have running clients, patients, or athletes you will get some big takeaways from this episode.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends!
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:08:0820/05/2024
S4E1: Specific Preparation for Specific Activities: Season 4 Begins!
Michelle and Tim finally return to the recorder and dive into Season 4. In this episode, Michelle and Tim give some life updates, discuss the theme and format for Season 4, their initial thoughts about preparing for specific activities and sports, preparation vs. opposition work, variables to manage throughout a training season, and differences between beginners and intermediate athletes. Don’t miss the return of the MTLP pod, back for another epic season.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends!
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
58:2413/05/2024
S3.5E22: Meditation for People That Are Bad at Meditation; Improving Movement through Mindfulness with Sam Leffers
Michelle and Tim are hard at work recording episodes for Season 4, which they’re incredibly excited to bring you. However, in the interim, they hope you enjoy what’ll likely be their final “in-between-a-sode”.
Throughout Season 3 proper, Tim’s spoken at length about his own journey through persistent pain, and back on Season 3 Episode 4 (Sam Leffer’s first guest appearance) the concept of being in pain versus suffering was introduced. Recording that back in early 2023, Tim didn’t think he fully grasped the significance of that distinction. Sitting as he records this in April of 2024, he couldn’t think of a more important distinction in his own life.
Sharpening the mental tools that allow us to transcend the realm of suffering and associated mental landscapes- impatience, despair, and hostility- is vital to anyone looking to begin to thrive again within the context of their persistent pain. The tool that’s helped Tim the most in this regard is, hands down, meditation. So, Michelle and Tim brought Sam back so he and Tim could wax poetic about specific tactics and strategies, general frameworks, and consistent hang-ups folks have when starting a meditation practice.
If you’d like to hear more about the specific application of these things to persistent pain, we’d very much recommend going back and listening to S3E4. Stay moving, stay mindful, and enjoy the episode.
Listen, download, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance EBOOK: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ebook-keep-training-in-pain
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:53:5808/04/2024
S3.5E21: Using Cold Plunge/Sauna and Navigating Health Fads
Over the past few years we’ve seen the rise of various internet health personalities- Attia, Huberman, and Rhonda Patrick all come to mind. In a lot of ways, we’re fans. Especially with the ever-declining standard of care for conventional insurance-based medicine in this country, it’s heartening to see so many folks attempting to take matters into their own hands.
Never before has the national discourse actually centered around topics like protein consumption, light exposure, or strength training for longevity. However, these thought leaders have had to learn to play in the medium of the day- namely podcasts, IG content, and YouTube clips that reward sensationalism, quick fixes, and “hacks” over tried and true practices.
Save the carnivore diet, nothing has gotten more play amongst the fitness intelligentsia of late than deliberate extreme temperature exposure, a la cold plunges and saunas.
What’s the deal with these modalities? Are they a flash-in-the-pan fad or facets of an intelligently designed physical practice that will endure the test of time?
For answers to these questions, and more, listen to Tim’s sit down with Sam Leffers, friend of the pod and mental health practitioner extraordinaire, as they dive deep on the research and practical utilization of this type of work.
Listen, download, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance EBOOK: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ebook-keep-training-in-pain
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:40:1511/03/2024
S3.5E20: Enter into Michelle’s Mind- SOLO 2023 Recap and 2024 Planning INSIGHTS; business and running goals, struggles, and preparation.
While you are waiting for MTLP Season 4, Michelle sits down with her microphone and gives some insights into how she reflects on 2023 and plans for 2024. In this episode, Michelle lays out her struggles and successes in 2023, what will be new in 2024, the story behind Reframe Performance, MTLP Season 4 planning, running 100km in the Swiss Alps, and her annual planning strategies. I think you will find something useful, learn some things to avoid, and realize that we probably share the same struggles.
Listen, download, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance EBOOK: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ebook-keep-training-in-pain
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
53:4505/02/2024
S3E19: Season 3 Finale- Top 3 Takeaways
Tim and Michelle countdown their Top 3 Takeaways from Season 3. In this episode we discuss strategies to build rapport, developing intuition within the body, compassionate presence, low tension as a default resting state, negative transfer of training, gen pop vs. performance training, Kintsugi, momentum vs. progression, practical vs. optimal, and reframing performance.
Thank you for listening to Season 3! We will be back for Season 4 in a few weeks!
Tim and Michelle hope you have enjoyed Season 3, as much as they have enjoyed recording it, and while you're thinking of it, go ahead and leave a 5-star review on the pod player of your choice. Doing so will let them continue to devote time to this show for many more seasons to come.
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01:00:3915/01/2024
S3E18: Dr. Lisa Lewis- Psych Coach for Fitness Pros: The capacity to tolerate client’s discomfort
Michelle sits down with Dr. Lisa Lewis, EdD, CADA-II, Licensed Psychologist who is known as the ‘psych coach for fitness pros’. Dr. Lewis works with a wide variety of clientele but her passion for wellness and fitness has fueled working with trainers and therapists, just like yourself. In this episode we discuss her personal experience with training and pain, what coaching skills trainers are lacking to help motivate their clients and facilitate change, client relationships, the capacity to tolerate client’s discomfort, compassionate presence, and working with “tough clients”.
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45:4308/01/2024
S3E17: Q&A - Tim and Michelle Answer All Of Your Painful Questions
Tim and Michelle answer all of your questions about pain and training in this week’s episode. We tackled your questions with all of our might to provide you answers about Tim’s hip pain status, Tim’s pain management strategies, what books we recommend related to Season 3’s theme, how to evolve your model, our thoughts about common three letter acronym systems, and our own struggling working with persistent pain clients.
Michelle and Tim hope you enjoy the show as much as they enjoyed recording it, and, while you're thinking of it, go ahead and leave a 5-star review on the pod player of your choice. Doing so will let Michelle and Tim continue to devote time to this show for many more seasons to come.
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Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
54:1101/01/2024
S3E16: Doug Kechijian-Leg Pressing, Spine Surgery, and Maintaining Lifelong Work Capacity
Embarrassingly, Tim didn't create an Instagram account until early 2018. For the first 6 months of having that account, there were precisely two entities he followed - Zac Cupples and Resilient Rehab and Performance. If you listen to this podcast, there's a good chance you know of Zac. However, the Resilient boys (Trevor, Greg, and today's guest, Doug) have flown a little more under the radar; nevertheless, since 2015, they've quietly built a private PT empire spanning Manhattan, New Jersey, and Connecticut.
If you scroll WAY back on Resilient's account, you can still see Doug sprinting in a field or Trevor goblet squatting a kettlebell so large it looks more 15th century cannonball and less weight training implement. Anyhow, these guys have some shared mentors with Michelle and Tim, and they very much respect Resilient’s base of knowledge when it comes to all things biomechanics and persistent pain management.
Doug, specifically, has been through his own personal ringer with back issues so severe that, at one point, he could hardly walk more than a block at a time. Additionally, he's a badass backcountry skier, and his life before PT school was jumping out of airplanes to administer emergency medical care to military personnel in war-torn lands. Tim... managed the carts on a golf course.
Tim wanted to talk with Doug about how personal experience has impacted Doug’s treatment style, popular misconceptions regarding persistent pain, and skewing strength and conditioning exercises towards higher reward and lower risk. They covered those and then some, also working in a discussion of "Goggins versus coddling", the necessity of treatment models to be both explanatory and predictive, and normalizing pain amongst practitioners.
Michelle and Tim hope you enjoy the show as much as they enjoyed recording it, and, while you're thinking of it, go ahead and leave a 5-star review on the pod player of your choice. Doing so will let Michelle and Tim continue to devote time to this show for many more seasons to come.
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01:25:5425/12/2023
S3E15: Lucy Hendricks- Moving Beyond Biomechanics: The art of communication, fighting beliefs around pain, and normalizing feedback
Michelle sits down with Lucy Hendricks, owner of Enhancing Life Gym in Lexington, KY. A biomechanics nerd turned client relationship wizard, Lucy is a well-spoken teacher and guide for trainers working with persistent pain clients. Her ability to skillfully coach exercises and conquer the art of communication makes Lucy the perfect person to discuss bringing awareness to the human body, why it is so scary for trainers to work with people in pain, the art of communication, fighting beliefs around pain, the skill of reading people, first interactions, training model adjustments for people in persistent pain, and normalizing feedback.
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Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:03:1218/12/2023
S3E14: Dean Guedo- Move More; pain, high flux, and why going to the gym is not enough
Michelle sits down with the walking king himself, Dean Guedo. Dean is a former athlete and powerlifter turned nutrition coach and rucking enthusiast with a simple message: walk more, WAY more. In this episode we discuss, Dean’s personal fitness and pain journey, the searching process of fitness through life changes, high flux, why we need to move more, why going to the gym may not be enough, structured lifts vs. building capacity with moving, and why your step count may not be a bad obsession.
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Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
53:1311/12/2023
S3E13: Tony Gentilcore on Easy Training, Stoplights, and Making Bigger Cups
There are a few voices in this industry that simply have a knack for being incredibly reasonable with their training approach and evolving their model gradually over time. Eric Cressey, Dan John, and Tony are all names that come to mind. So, when it comes to having thoughts about the day to day realities of training people experiencing persistent pain, it was assured Tony would have some fascinating things to say, in addition to a few off-the-cuff 90s movies references- he did NOT disappoint in either regard.
In this episode, Tony and Tim get into the concepts of “training through” injury, delineating fitness versus rehab, Tony’s “trainable menu”, lowering pain sensitivity thresholds via lifestyle interventions, the red light/green light system, and a whole host of other topics.
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Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
01:17:5904/12/2023
S3E12: Dr. Susie Lachowski & Dr. Connor Sheridan-The BFR Training & Therapy Duo; Get schooled on Blood Flow Restriction Training as a tool for persistent pain clients
Want to add a new tool to your toolbox? Join Michelle as she sits down with Blood Flow Restriction Training (BFRT) experts to talk physiology and implementation.
Dr. Susie Lachowski, PhD, CSCS is the Founding Director and Assistant Professor of the Division of Exercise Science at American International College in Springfield, MA and Owner of Glass Training and Education. Susie is a leader within the industry on BFRT and certifies Exercise and Sports Medicine professionals in the BFRT modality across the country. Dr. Connor Sheridan is a physical therapist at Divergence PT and Wellness in Wellesley, MA and puts BFRT into action.
In this episode, we discuss the physiology and implementation of BFRT, case studies and examples for its use, strategies for working with both performance and persistent pain clients, BFRT as a modality to train at low intensities with muscle growth, cardiovascular, and recovery benefits, how to prepare persistent clients for BFRT, specific training protocols, and much more.
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Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
59:4427/11/2023
S3E11: Tim & Michelle- If You Show Me Your Adaptive Upside, I'll Show You Mine; Adaptive Upside Exercise Selection with Persistent Pain Clients Top 3 Countdown
Tim and Michelle countdown their TOP 3 exercise concepts to maximize adaptive upside in the context of persistent pain clients. How best can we create system changes and manage trade-offs in our training programs? Find out in this episode.
In this episode, we discuss movement quality as an adaptation, what the upside is to alternating reps, progressing volume with timed sets, why medicine ball throws are awesome, why sleds are the most useful thing in the gym, and how walking is not conditioning.
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Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
55:5020/11/2023
S3E10: Bill Hartman- Perspectives on Models, Mentorship, and Training in Persistent Pain
Bill is a Physical Therapist and, together with Mike Robertson, founded Indianapolis Fitness and Sports Training, known as IFAST, located in Indianapolis, Indiana. Over the past decade, IFAST has quietly become one of the predominant hubs of education in the industries of PT and S&C. Former Bill mentees include Zac Cupples, Mike Camporini, and what feels like 25% of medical and physical prep staff in the NBA and MLB.
This past January, Tim had the pleasure of going out to Indy for 3 weeks to learn from Bill. This upcoming January, Tim will be heading back out for 3 months to continue his study as he and Bill attempt to improve Tim’s movement profile enough that he may be able to avoid hip surgery. Bill’s a fiercely independent thinker, and one of the most intellectually honest individuals on the planet. As such, his style of communication may not be FOR everyone. But, as you’ll hear from him, that’s kind of the point.
In this episode Tim and Bill touch on Bill’s ability to continue training in the weight room despite middle age, numerous surgeries, and nagging pain, how he approaches restoring comfortable movement with his clients, and some uncommon considerations regarding total hip replacements.
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Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
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01:08:1013/11/2023
S3E9: Tim & Michelle Reunite- Engaging with the Body on a More Frequent Basis
Tim and Michelle reunite for a mid-point check-in for season 3. In this episode we talk about, our current training status, monitoring movement KPIs, connecting with the body on a more frequent basis, reframing pain as information, pushing into and pulling away from exercise during times of psychological stress, the value of just listening, engaging physically with life, and much, much more.
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Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
52:3606/11/2023
S3E8: Dr. Seth Oberst- Tactical Urgency, Open-Minded Education, and Navigating Uncertainty in Persistent Pain
Both Tim and Michelle would never miss an opportunity to spend time with Dr. Seth Oberst. Seth is a hidden gem who doesn’t do much posting on social media but has an incredible reputation both personally and professionally as a physical therapist. In this episode, we discuss regulating tactics, the illusion of infinite progression, developing a sustainable movement practice, being a guide to your client’s process, projecting uncertainty, tactical urgency, phases of the learning process, and when to bail if an approach isn’t working.
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01:11:3130/10/2023
S3E7: Mike Boyle- Observe and Be Hospitable; Managing Pain and Building a Business for the Long Haul
Michelle sits down with Mike Boyle, co-founder of Mike Boyle Strength and Conditioning…like you didn’t know that already. In this episode, we talk about why assault bikes are awesome (duh), training adults while managing pain, exercise selection with an adaptive upside, the “orthopedic cost” of some exercises, how to keep people training while dealing with an injury, creating hospitality in your business, and much, much more.
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Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
01:16:3623/10/2023
S3E6: David Grey- Making Sense of Persistent Pain with The Irish Wonder Boy
Today’s guest is friend of the podcast David Grey. David last visited Michelle and Tim back in February of 2022, where they discussed feet “out” during running, the merits of sensorimotor training, and the hilariousness of dachshunds or, as David calls them, sausage dogs. Hopefully you started following David thereafter, because he has simply blown up since then. Numerous product launches, delivering seminars, and growing his Instagram following to a staggering 135,000 as of this recording. If you’ve consumed any of his content, you hopefully understand why.
In Michelle and Tim’s estimation, there is no one currently in the industry doing a better job of breaking down posture, gait, respiration, and movement in a way that’s possible to understand without becoming derivative or algorithmic.
David is a thought leader in our field, which is why they were stoked to get him on to discuss various topics, such as, the utility (or lack thereof) of movement KPIs, negative transfer of barbell training, leading versus lagging measures of pain and performance, his work with an Olympic endurance athlete, biomechanical determinism versus nihilism, and much, much more.
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01:01:2416/10/2023
S3E5: Dan Sanzo- Mr. Attention To Detail; The Consequences of High Performance
Michelle sits down with Dan Sanzo in a context-driven conversation to discuss working together and the consequences that come with high performance. Michelle sought out Dan’s help with her ultra running ‘performance induced discomfort consequences’ (that is copyrighted my friends) and you can hear all about their teamwork and training strategies! Dan Sanzo lays out his biomechanical lens as he dives into his assessment and interventions during each session with Michelle. They discuss the management of movement restrictions and reducing performance barriers to allow Michelle to run marathons, 50 milers, and upcoming 100 mile races. Listen, download, subscribe, and tell your friends...
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01:15:5809/10/2023
S3E4: Sam Leffers, LMHCA- Suffering Less and Improving Mindfulness with Chronic Achilles Pain
Tim sits down with Sam Leffers, a licensed mental health counseling associate based in Indianapolis, IN who helps clients with a broad variety of psychological ailments, including those suffering from anxiety or depression related to chronic pain. Additionally, he’s a runner who “walks the walk” in managing training, life, and his movement practice in the setting of fairly persistent left Achilles issues.
Although not a household name in our industry, Sam is a wealth of knowledge- acquired both personally and professionally- and together Tim and Sam dive into topics such as, why “tension” is the root of suffering, physical pain versus suffering, “fixing” someone versus establishing a therapeutic alliance, acceptance strategies, meditation and stimulus/response unpairing, and learning to appreciate and, dare I say “love”, your idiosyncratic movement and psychological compensations. Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends...
Contact Sam: https://www.samleffers.com
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01:16:0602/10/2023
S3E3: Justin Rabinowitz- Managing the Pain in Business
Michelle sits down with Justin Rabinowitz to discuss learning from failures, setting expectations with clients and patients, and the importance of messaging. Rehab Chiropractor, published author, and entrepreneur, Justin Rabinowitz, is an encyclopedia for fitness and rehab professionals, teaching us all how to build world-class clinical excellence and business skills. Listen, download, subscribe, and tell your friends...
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56:1225/09/2023
S3E2: Jon Pope of BTE- What Military Selection Can Teach Us About Soldiering On In Cases Of Persistent Pain
In this second episode, Tim sits down with Jon Pope, founder of Building the Elite, a company with the sole focus of preparing military and tactical athletes for selection programs using the most up-to-date and effective training strategies possible. At first glance, this may seem like an odd conversation to have nested in a season that’s about chronic and persistent pain. However, the intent for having Jon on was to show just how much connective tissue exists between the strategies that tactical athletes employ to get through grueling physical tasks and the strategies athletes in chronic pain can leverage to get through life, training, and continue to push the boundaries of their fitness and physical existence. They discuss mindfulness, segmenting, compartmentalizing, self-talk, and learned optimism all in a quest to leave YOU with an improved understanding of what military preparation has to offer athletes of all types.
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
01:26:2018/09/2023
S3E1: Fitness in the Setting of Persistent Pain
Michelle and Tim are back! After a long and eventful hiatus, the dynamic duo return. And this time, they’re on a very specific, season-long quest. A quest to learn (and teach) all they can about maintaining- and even improving- fitness in the context of chronic/persistent pain. During this first episode, they delve into the “why” behind this season’s motif, common misconceptions about chronic/persistent pain, and some actionable insights into treating, training, and managing clients that have musculoskeletal pain that simply refuses to abate. Listen, download, subscribe, and tell your friends...
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/
52:0711/09/2023
S2E12: Top 3 Takeaways from Season 2: What we steal from our GUESTS and IMPLEMENT into our own PRACTICE
Tim and Michelle pop open the champagne and celebrate the completion of Season 2 by summarizing their biggest takeaways! Season 2 guests dropped off some knowledge bombs, and today we are turning them into actionable implementation strategies. Topics discussed today include, the dichotomy of perspective, the importance of having a biomechanical model, “adaptation” training versus “learning” training, inhibition before facilitation, and much, much more.
Thank you all for listening to Season 2 and if you loved it, you are going to dig this episode!
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52:3425/04/2022
S2E10: Attuning, Perception of Biomechanics, Self Obstruction, Manual Inputs, and Energy Crystals with Dr. Seth Oberst
Michelle & Tim cleared their schedule and summoned Seth out of the sauna to chat about the ultimate coaching and therapy tools. We dive into attuning, the perception of biomechanics, self obstruction, manual inputs, practical application, and the benefits of being predictable.
If you enjoyed it, it’d mean the world to Tim and Michelle if you can subscribe, review, or share what they’re doing here. Links of Interest:
https://sethoberst.com/about/
Instagram @sethoberst
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Tim Ferris episode #492 with Richard Schwartz
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01:16:1318/04/2022