Thank heavens for tenue... How else would The Chad & Cheese's brash, challenging, and no-bullshit attitude get in the same room, hell the same solar system, as NYU and UNC academics? Yup, tenue has got to be the answer. Earlier this year, NYU’s Institute for Public Knowledge, the 370 Jay Project, and the NYU Tandon Department of Technology, Culture and Society hosted a new discussion in the series “Co-Opting AI”, which included this humble podcast. This event was created to examine how AI intersects with recruiting and with gaining access to the labor market. Taking a deep look into the industry and providing insights on the HR tech sector. The players: Ifeoma Ajunwa is an Associate Professor of Law with tenure at UNC School of Law. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ifeomaajunwa/ Mona Sloane is a sociologist working on design and inequality, specifically in the context of AI design and policy. https://www.linkedin.com/in/mona-sloane-ph-d-8b512656/ ...and The Chad & Cheese :) Props to The Co-Opting AI event series and Mona Sloane. It is hosted at IPK and co-sponsored by the 370 Jay Project, and the NYU Tandon Department of Technology, Culture, and Society, and the NYU Center for Responsible AI. https://ipk.nyu.edu/ https://engineering.nyu.edu/academics/departments/technology-culture-and-society https://engineering.nyu.edu/research-innovation/centers/center-responsible-ai

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Eric Bailey about all things Work Human Live! Eric is a speaker again this year and we discuss how he got involved and the amazing workshop he is offering to attendees this year! It is a must-listen. Eric M. Bailey is the bestselling author and president of Bailey Strategic Innovation Group, one of the fastest-growing human communication consulting firms in the United States. Eric has a unique set of life experiences that includes earning a Master's Degree in Leadership and Organizational Development from Saint Louis University, helping NFL Pro-Bowler Larry Fitzgerald pet a rhinoceros, doing barrel rolls in an F-16, and chatting with LL Cool J on the campus of Harvard University. Eric believes that no matter what life throws at you, there’s either a lesson to be learned or a story to be told. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

Today we have a special edition of The Chad & Cheese Podcast for you today. Cue the ABBA music, which can only mean one thing, a Swedish twist as Sara Dalsfelt, Head of Brand and Community, over at Adway invited Joel and me to come on her show to talk about Building a TA Power House through Tech, Automation, & Revenue Growth. With over 1,800 registrants, much like every show, Joel and I knew that we had to bring the heat. So, we did... Enjoy!

In this episode, Katee chats with Shai Poulard, the Head of Global Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging at NerdWallet. Shai has ten years of professional experience in various industries including technology, retail, banking, biotechnology, and entertainment. She is entrepreneurial and innovative in spirit with a passion for aligning people's skills, company resources, and development opportunities with the needs of the organization. Proven track record in building training and inclusion programs, exceeding goals, strategic thinking, leadership, analytical thinking, facilitation, creative problem solving, customer service, and championing equity & inclusion. She thrives in challenging, fast-paced, collaborative environments where autonomy and outside-of-the-box thinking are valued and encouraged. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

As we move through the third anniversary of the first lockdowns, it is a good time to reflect on how the pandemic has changed our attitudes and expectations towards work. Employers now have to think very differently about culture, employee experience, and recruiting. The new generation joining the workforce is also driving some very different thinking around career progression. My guest this week is Abby Hamilton, Chief People Officer at LiveIntent. Abby has valuable insights about the importance of creating a human-centric approach to work where employees feel seen, heard, and recognized. In the interview, we discuss: Current talent market challenges How tech layoffs are creating opportunities The legacy of the pandemic Culture, Employee Experience, and Recruiting Wellbeing Changing career expectations from changing generations Video gaming and careers progression The role of technology Asynchronous communication The future of employee experience Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

The changes he’s seen and the changes he’s seeing now.

Over 7 million men in America have opted out of the workforce. That’s a big problem for a lot of employers, but it’s an 800 lb. gorilla kind of problem for manufacturing businesses. So what the hell is going on? Thankfully, we invited Patrick O'Rahilly (pronounced like “O’Reilly”), founder at FactoryFix, a company dedicated to curing what ails such businesses. The boys didn’t quite solve this complex problem, but they sure had a lot of fun trying. Almost as much fun as you’ll have listening.

In this episode, Jackye and Katee talk to Andres SIgcha. Andres, a native Ecuadorian, earned his Master's degree in 2018 after a journey that took him around the world and exposed him to many cultures and diverse backgrounds. Through these experiences, he found his calling- to fight for workplace equity and give a voice to the underrepresented. He has created :https://www.tariy.ai/ which helps leaders become more inclusive in meetings and beyond. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

In 2013, I wrote a report on the future of asynchronous video interviewing; while a few employers were experimenting with it, there was widespread skepticism about its usefulness and longevity. Fast forward ten years, and we are literally living in a different world. Post-pandemic video now sits at the centre of the working day for many of us, and asynchronous video interviewing is most certainly here to stay. So how are candidate attitudes towards video evolving, what problems is video interviewing solving for employers, and how will things develop in the future? My guests this week are the perfect people to answer these questions and give us a deep dive into the market. Phill Strazulla is the Founder of Select Software Reviews, and Euan Cameron is the CEO at Willo. Keep listening for a mix of practical advice and informed insights about the future of video interviewing. In the interview, we discuss: How video interview has developed since the pandemic Evolving attitudes to video Is a video interview now an expectation for candidates? Removing interview friction Point solution or platform? The case for asynchronous DE&I Improving hiring outcomes Will the resume ever die? How does AI fit into the future of video interviewing? Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

Viva HR CEO Ryan Naylor talks about how companies can nurture their culture and why transparency is an employer's friend.

This week in HR tech: Lattice launches a people strategy group; Crosschq adds support for French, German, Italian and other languages.

We are total suckers for the ‘80s. That’s why we love Wilco’s website so much. If you haven’t checked it out, do yourself a favor if you love Pac-Man, Galaga, and Donkey Kong … basically, all-things 8-bit. Anyway, back to business, On Freund and Wilco has created a sort of knowledge base for developers within a company to not only learn new skills but also get the occasional refresher for the more seasoned professional. Is it the next big thing, or destined to the dustbin of history, along with Custer’s Revenge? Gotta listen to find out.

The climate emergency is the greatest challenge humans have ever faced, and it affects all of us. In August of last year, as part of The Inflation Reduction Act, the US federal government pledged $365 Billion to fight climate change. Since then, over 100,000 climate jobs have already been created in the US economy. Despite the seriousness of the situation and the obvious relevance to our sector, climate jobs and the climate emergency don't seem to be things we are discussing. This needs to change. My guest this week is Natalie Lavery, Marketing Lead at Climate People, a Climate Tech recruiting firm. Climate People are fighting to make every job a climate job. It was brilliant to get Natalie's insight into a critically important market that is full of opportunity. In the interview, we discuss: The reimagining of the global economy What is Climate Tech, and what are Climate Jobs? Is Climate Tech the future of all jobs Barriers to jobseekers taking climate jobs and how to break them down Awareness, mindset, and incentives The importance of diverse talent and diverse voices What can we all do to make our jobs climate jobs? Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

Digital Talent, the second book co-authored by Mervyn Dinnen and myself, came out a year ago this month. We've been blown away by the response to the book and want to thank everyone who has bought, read and shared it. Twelve months is a long time in our industry at the moment, so I sat down with Mervyn to discuss the book's key themes and how things have developed over the last year. We recorded the conversation in a proper studio, so there is also a video version of this podcast (link in the show notes), which is worth watching just to take in the full glory of Mervyn's shirt. Enjoy the conversation In our conversation, we discuss: The acceleration of Digital Transformation The ongoing disruption of Talent Acquisition Redefining talent Results versus noise in DE&I Taking a more strategic approach to hiring Talent Experience Talent Mobility Skills AI & Personalization The new future of work Another book? The video version of this episode Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

This week we welcome Andrew Flowers, Labour Economist at Appcast. We go through the key findings of the 2023 Appcast Recruitment Marketing Benchmark Report. Download here Schadenfreude! As the media revels in reporting layoffs in big tech, Andrew gives us the truth behind it. What job seekers want, pay transparency. The impact of the smart phone Recruiters who have never worked in such a tight labor market need to take a page out of the 1990’s recruiting playbook. Andrew gives us 2 predictions for 2023. 

This week in HRTech: Betterworks makes meeting more productive; Limeade integrates with Microsoft to make employee productivity accessible.

You've heard it before: "HR deserves a seat at the table." It's far from reality for most organizations that see talent acquisition as a cost center and not the heartbeat of any successful company. That's why we invited Jeff Lackey, founder and CEO at JKL Advisors and podcast host of 'Growing Your Business with People' to come to give some sound advice on how Human Resources can get off the sidelines and into the game. A great discussion for newbies and grizzled veterans alike.

We talk with Paycor's Gal Almog about AI and recruiting, and where recruiting technology may be headed.

In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Pam Luk. Pam Luk is the founder of Ember & Ace, an athletic wear brand for plus size kids. Growing up playing sports, she learned firsthand the importance of finding active wear that fits. After a career in project management, Pam wanted to ensure her daughter and other children are able to be comfortable in the clothes they wear for sporting activities. She went after that desire and launched a fashion line exclusively for active plus size kids. In June, Pam launched a Kickstarter campaign that was fully funded in just 17 days to help launch Ember & Ace! Pam understands what it means to be plus-size while also being an active, healthy child and adult. She wants to bring more awareness around body diversity, how to talk to your child about bodies and embracing differences and tools parents can utilize to make clothes shopping easier. Pam has recently been featured on Eat The Rules, Burnt Toast, Well + Good, and more. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

Improving diversity seems like a very human exercise, but our guest brings data and technology to the task. 

This week we welcome return guest Lori Sylvia Founder of Rally As the founder of Rally, it has been Lori’s mission to teach marketing to recruiters. True to her mission and why she founded Rally, Lori’s hand is extended to any recruiter who was laid off and is looking for a better place to be.  Here are some impressive updates from Rally.  Rally Recruitment Marketing community is now 43,000 members strong Being a member of the Rally Community gives you access to a recruitment marketing dashboard, resources, blogs, idea books and the outcomes of the biggest A/B test conducted in recruitment marketing.  Marketing your company in the Nursing or Engineering job families? Listen to find out what gets the highest engagement on social media. Twitter is off the list for your social media recruitment marketing plan.

G-P Integrates with Wise to help employers pay international freelancers and contractors.

Reunited, and it feels so good. Last time we talked to Teddy Chestnut cofounder at Brighthire - the self-proclaimed “first interview intelligence platform” - they were cleaning on big applauses on Firing Squad. That was way back before the pandemic, and needless to say, the world is different. So how are things going. Chad & Cheese bring Teddy back check-in on the startup that was founded back in 2019 and has raised almost $40 million. Even Peaches and Herb would be envious.

3Sixty Insights' Brent Skinner talks about technology and HR’s changing role.

The evolution of HR tech, how to tell when a vendor is serious and what to do with consultants

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Aurora Higgs. Aurora (she/they) is a Black queer visionary and activist from Richmond, Va. Aurora works as an equity consultant all around the world. Aurora transitioned in 2018 and uses her platform to promote justice and equity. Aurora is the VP of Operations at HUMiN Inc, a Seattle-based Consultancy specializing in DEI and Management Consulting for Large Tech and Biopharma corporate clients. In 2019, Aurora founded Borealis Consulting RVA where she works as a speaker, researcher, performer, and producer of media that elevate queer BIPOC voices. Higgs also was invited to assist Del. Danica Roem (D-Prince William), in passing several pieces of legislation related to transgender rights in Virginia, including a bill to make transphobic discrimination by medical providers illegal. Her work in the Richmond community has earned her a number of honors in recent years. Aurora was a featured honoree in Style Weekly’s 2019 Top 40 Under 40 Issue as well as in the Virginia Museum of History and Culture’s Agents of Change Exhibit. The Advocate named Aurora a 2022 Champion of Pride from Around the US. And if you ever find yourself on MacArthur Ave in RVA, you can find a mural in honor of Aurora and her impact on the community. Aurora believes that her calling is to show up in spaces bravely and authentically, no matter the repercussions. Someone once said “Show up so BIG in the room that it feels too small after you’ve left.” Aurora holds this mantra close to her heart as she creates space for her communities and herself. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

TA Leaders are under tremendous pressure as we move through 2023. Many are dealing with acute talent shortages, others have to downsize their team, and everyone is attempting to make sense of the implications of rapidly advancing AI technology. Whilst the immediate pressure can drive a focus on short term thinking, there is a massive opportunity for the TA Leaders who take a longer term view to reposition Talent Acquisition within their organization strategically. So what is the opportunity here, which other business functions can we model from, and what practical steps do TA Leaders need to take? My guest this week is Graeme Paxton, Founder and CEO of Caraffi. Carraffi is on a mission to make talent the engine room of everyone's organization, and Graeme has a vast amount of experience in helping TA Leaders think strategically. In the interview, we discuss: The current state of the market The strategic opportunity in challenging times Changing where TA sits in the organization Breaking the cycle When hiring volume decreases, the importance of hiring increases Shortage in critical skillsets What TA can learn from the strategic evolution of Marketing The three questions that keep CEOs up at night Aligning metrics with the business balance sheet How to measure the business impact of TA From transactional service to business driver Understanding the vision of your business to identify future critical skillsets How far in the future should TA Leaders be planning? Can TA Leaders be the CEOs of the future? Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

We talk about AI in recruiting, the thinking behind their development, and the principles of AI.

We talk about recruiting, recruiting in this economy, the Great Resignation and more.

If you liked the first half of this episode, you will want to listen to part 2, where Katee and Jackye dig in even deeper with Eli. We could have talked for many more hours!! Hope you enjoy this half as much as you did the first! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

ChatGPT. Deep fakes. Avatars. Google's Bard. In case you haven't noticed, artificial intelligence is changing the game. That's why we have Ryan Steelberg, Veritone's CEO and President, back on the show to check-in on the state of AI and how it impacts employment, as well as everything from communications to advertising and marketing. Veritone, who recently acquired PandoLogic, as well as Pando's Wade & Wendy, conversational AI solutions, also powers Chad & Cheese in French, Spanish, German and Portuguese. ¡Bueno!

David Bernstein at PivotCX.io Return guest, David is valued friend of the show who has endorsed & connected us to some great contacts in the HR Tech world. David is the SVP of Corporate Development & Strategy at PivotCX.io and after 27 years in HR Tech, one thing we all agree on - communication is hard.  Text, voice, video, email; 90% of candidates accept the first offer they get. It's a race! PivotCX.io can help. What’s hot in TA for 2023? There’s lots we can learn if we take a page out of the sales & marketing playbook or the call center industry and how they measure success. Treating candidates with the same respect we treat our customers with.

Roe v. Wade being overturned has caused a wave of political upheaval in the United States, and many employers are being impacted. It's a big deal, especially for those who hire and employ Millennials and Gen Zs. That's why the boys invited Dr. Tana M. Session, an award-winning consultant, speaker, performance coach and best-selling author to the show. We're breaking down the tough issues and challenges companies are facing with the issue of abortion rights, and even throw in a little pay transparency debate for good measure.

We talk about coaching and technology, the role of data, tailoring coaching to the individual, and more

I always find it encouraging to see many employers focusing on social mobility to diversify their workforces. However, much more needs doing, and some seismic shifts are required to broaden the narrow definition of talent many industries use to recruit.  My guest this week is Phoebe Anderson, Executive Director at ATLAS Fellows. ATLAS is a not-for-profit organization with the goal of transforming the finance industry by opening doors for under-resourced young people to access life-changing careers. Phoebe advocates for changing entrenched recruiting practices and challenging the narrow definition of talent endemic in the finance industry.  In the interview, we discuss: Why a zip code shouldn't dictate a life trajectory Breaking down barriers The importance of engaging with High School students Scholarship, internship, mentorship, and membership What employers need to do to be more inclusive Changing the narrow definition of talent Skills and knowledge are teachable. ATLAS' advice to employers and their plans for the future. Follow this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

In the first half of this conversation, Jackye and Katee chat with Eli Rigatuso. It was so good, we kept recording for a part II right away. You'll get that episode next week! So who is Eli? He identifies as a queer, transmasculine Two Spirit of the Menominee Nation. He is an artist, photographer, video producer/director, and gifted public speaker and presenter and considers himself well-versed in diverse issues relating to gender identity and expression. Rigatuso is easily one of the most compassionate souls you will ever meet. With over 30 years of experience in his field, he’s worked throughout TV, radio, and digital media while moving the needle toward inclusive spaces. A gifted public speaker and presenter, Eli created Speaking of Happy in 2009, has hosted various Live Stream events, and continues to provide an outlet for folks to share their personal stories. Rigatuso launched the Speaking of Happy Pride Tour in 2022 taking a 27' travel trailer & mobile podcast studio to various Midwest pride celebrations. He has also worked with many families in the Omaha area as they navigate the waters of gender-related to being transgender, non-binary, two-spirit, and gender-diverse. Speaking of Happy has provided training for numerous businesses and nonprofits. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF Show less

Kelly Minella, Calendly head of recruiting has a unique view of talent acquisition – and scheduling. We look at both... and how they fit together.

 Welcome return guest the Job Board Doctor Jeff Dickey-Chasins Jeff consults to 100’s of job boards from around the world, he brings a wealth of knowledge on how, why and what’s happening. Highlights Cost per apply on Indeed was a self fulfilling prophecy - who knew, creating a problem and then solving the problem was a business model. The little blue box on Google, friend or enemy? It still does not give people what we want, that is great jobs by direct employers.  Like William and Harry, ZipRecruiter is the spare.   Duration based job ads still dominate globally. Jeff shares his favorite job board and what he likes about them and his greatest frustration with job ads.

Re-skilling and up-skilling were a common theme throughout 2022, and it shows no signs of slowing down as we head into 2023. Turns out, offering candidates and employees the opportunity to grow professionally is great for recruiting and retention. That's why we invited Natalie McCullough president and chief commercial officer at Guild on the podcast. A graduate of Stanford and Harvard Business School, as well as being a Microsoft alum means she's a great person to talk to on the subject matter. Plus: Unicorn alert! Guild has raised over $643 million and has a $3.75 billion valuation. Companies like Walmart and Target rely on them to offer valuable continuing education solutions to their workforce. It's a must-listen for anyone hiring essential workers.

We get into what they are, their impact on the user experience and more.

Whatever part of the industry you are in, you will be facing uncertain times as we start to move through 2023. On top of the obvious economic factors, Talent Acquisition is heading into a period of dramatic reinvention right in the middle of a trend of TA layoffs, a conundrum at a time of continuing talent shortages and candidate-driven markets. Whether you are looking for a new role, reinventing your existing role, or getting promoted, confidence is critical. It's also something that we don't talk about enough, particularly when it comes to building more of it and dealing with imposter syndrome. My guest this week is Jess Jones, an influencer, content creator, and DE&I talent lead. Jess recently wrote a book about building confidence called "Own It". Her experience in TA gives her a unique perspective on how we talk (or rather don't talk) about confidence and resilience in our industry, and she has some great advice to share. In the interview, we discuss: Confidence in the workplace Tackling imposter syndrome "Owning it" Empowering people to be more confident The snakes and ladders of work in 2023 The five-second rule Does social media make things more complicated? The myth of perfection and the importance of being vulnerable Curiosity Showing up and leading by example AI & TA Internal mobility Using creators and influences to target specific pools of talent Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

Talent Acquisition is continuing to grow in complexity. Technology is becoming more disruptive, recruiting methodologies are getting more sophisticated, and data and analytics are becoming more important. It's not surprising then that the skillset of TA teams is diversifying, and the role of TA Operations is becoming more developed. So how can TA leaders demonstrate the value of TA Ops, and how can it inform hiring strategies My guest this week is Mark Jenkins, Talent Acquisition Operations Manager at Product Madness. Mark's role involves improving recruiting and hiring efficiency through process improvements, streamlined funnels, and digital transformation. He has lots of insights and advice to share about the growing value of TA Ops. In the interview, we discuss: The bottom line impact of TA Ops Improving retention and diversity Unlocking the full potential of recruiting technology Automation and the importance of process reinvention How to drive value via continuous improvement Calculating the ROI of TA Ops Storytelling with data The role TA Ops can play in shaping hiring strategies The future of TA Ops Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

The challenges involved with interviewing developers, how candidates react to new technology tools and more,

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Dasha Dare. She is a NYC-based professional photographer and an ICF-certified executive life coach. Her unique coaching method (DareMethod) involves portrait photography and supports forward-thinking and high-performing people in reconnecting with their True North and relaxing into their greatness. Most recently she has designed an all-inclusive employee recognition experience, "Feeling Seen", which involves photography and life coaching. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

Sarah brings personal experience and deep industry expertise in creating OnwardsHR.com, a severance automation platform.  Highlight of our conversation: Layoffs, restructure, terminations, voluntary turnover; like being in the funeral home business, no one wants to think about this stuff until it happens to you or someone you know.  A positive OFF boarding experience sounds like an oxymoron.  It is possible if you plan it properly, ensure legal and finance are plugged in and most importantly what you say, how you say it and when you say it are locked down.  Working in both USA and Canada, you can find them at www.OnwardsHR.com

Video. All the kids are doin' it. But how about employers? Start-up JobPixel is pretty confident TikTok-style video is the future of recruiting. That's why Omar Khateeb CEO & founder at JobPixel decided to come on Firing Squad to pitch his company. Video may be the future, but is JobPixel the company that's going to bring it to the masses? Gotta listen to find out.

We talk to Korn Ferry's SVP about the dynamics of today’s workforce, labor shortages and HR tech and, of course, skills.

What employee experience is made of, the importance of communications and what employers think of it all.