It is an absolute delight to be back after a slightly longer summer podcasting break than I was anticipating. I've nearly finished my book and, most importantly, have put a lot of time into planning the future of RecruitingFuture. The first thing to announce is that there will now be a full transcript of each episode in the show notes to make recruitingfuture.com more accessible and more searchable. The transcripts start from episode 369 onwards. I'll have more exciting news to share in the coming weeks, so keep listening and make sure you subscribe to the show whether you get your podcasts. So on with Episode 370, earlier in the year, my long-time collaborator Mervyn Dinnen and I partnered with the team at SHL on a piece of research into the future of candidate experience. We identified six fundamental shifts in thinking which will help employers deliver an exceptional candidate experience and have published all the findings in a new whitepaper. To talk through the six shifts, I'm delighted to welcome one of my co-authors on the whitepaper Sam Whiteman, Head of Solutions at SHL. Enjoy the conversation, and please download the whitepaper once you've had a listen. In the interview, we discuss:    •   The current state of candidate experience    •   The employer brand opportunity    •   Translating lessons from consumer experience into candidate experience    •   Automation and asynchronous empowerment    •   Realistic job previews    •   Real-time candidate experience optimisation    •   Offering personalised feedback at scale    •   Authenticity    •   Demonstrating Diversity, Equity and Inclusion    •   The role of technology    •   Realistic and practical advice for talent acquisition leaders Download the whitepaper Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

When Indeed goes from $33-per to $300-per-applicant it's time to burn it down, build up something new, and then look to the future to rinse and repeat. Seriously, can imagine discovering your cost-per-applicant on Indeed has gone from $33-per to $300-per-applicant. Well, that's just what happened to Jenny Cotie Kangas, director of digital experience and TA at Regis Corp. The boys dig into Jenny's story, her interactions with Indeed, and what she's done since to right the ship going forward. It's a cautionary tale every employer should know, so listen up! After burning it to the ground you'll want to build your talent systems back with the best matching software in the industry. Sovren, AI so powerful it's scary. Scary good :)

Social media is hotter than ever! Okay put your phone down it's not time to check Tiktok for pet videos and NBA highlights! You'll want to hear all the latest background check trends with social media with the president of Social Intelligence Social Screening Bianca Lager. Should screening social media be a standard hiring procedure? Is social screening even more important during the age of remote work? What about detecting bias and intolerance? You'll hear answers to those questions and much more in this Nexxt-powered podcast!

In this episode, Katee flies solo to talk to Wil Shelton, author of "Silent Agreement" which relates the corporate experience for people of color to a boxing ring. The book and the stories from Wil shed some light on the silent agreements that are made at work and why they do not serve people of color. Have a listen! If you'd like to buy the book, go here: https://www.thesilentagreement.com/ Thanks for listening! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF  

People with disabilities represent 15% of the global population but are often left out of diversity initiatives, programs, surveys, and even basic conversations about workplace inclusion. Recent research from Global Disability inclusion and Mercer on the engagement gap of employees with disabilities shows a difference in some areas of up to 13% lower than non-disabled colleagues. So with many employers seeking to do better with equity, inclusion and belonging, what can they be doing to address this problem. To help us get some more insights into the issues, my guests this week are the research report authors Meg O’Connell, CEO & Founder of Global Disability Inclusion and Pete Rutigliano, Senior Principal at Mercer. In the interview, we discuss:    •   The State of Disability Employee Engagement Study    •   Employer attitudes to disabilities    •   Attitudinal barriers and dispelling myths    •   Research methodology and scope    •   Reasons for the engagement gap    •   The employee experience for people with disabilities    •   Building the right level of trust to allow people to be themselves    •   Hidden disabilities    •   The benefits of inclusion    •   Lessons from the pandemic    •   Hopes and predictions for the coming years Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

Buckle up everyone you are in for a deep and thought provoking podcast. Allyn Bailey & Tracey Parsons explore the topics of what it takes to be an entrepreneur and especially a woman entrepreneur with Lauryn Sargent the founder and partner of Stories Incorporated the premier employer branding agency focused on leveraging stories to create impact. What is amazing about talking to Lauryn, is that immediately the dialogue began to center around each of the ladies personal stories. The result is an amazing, raw and real conversation. Enjoy! 

It's hard to believe that this was Steve Norman's first ever podcast interview! The conversation flowed effortlessly and it was so interesting hearing how VIOOH's Head of Engineering went about hiring 13 Java Developers effortlessly and in partnership with the inspirational Liz Dowling. Stop what you're doing, grab pen & paper, and hear Katrina & Steve talk about: lessons learned in his varied career & cultures being hired remotely in a pandemic & the benefit of VIOOH adopting a hybrid model early joining and managing a team remotely and the benefit of Connected Days how you can hire 13 Java Developers even when there is such a shortage! partnering with the People team for all the right reasons. Giving feedback to every candidate swiftly... because developers talk! Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind.

Welcome to our first episode of our new podcast series Chats with Smart People. This month we are joined by Tyler Weeks, Head of partnership and Strategy at Hiredscore. We talk about his move from a corporate role to HR technology company. That is just the start though, we talk about so many interesting things. Have listen but don't blame us is you start laughing and spray coffee out your nose.

One of the topics I get asked to cover frequently is the growth of the corporate executive recruiting function. So with that in mind, I've partnered with ESIX, The Executive Search Information Exchange, to bring you a series of three interviews exploring the key trends and issues in corporate executive recruiting. In the previous two episodes, we looked at the evolution of corporate executive recruiting and what employers should be doing to improve the diversity of their executive teams. For the final interview in this short series, I'm talking to Eric Goldstein, Global Head of Executive Talent Attraction at SAP. We discuss how long term talent engagement is starting to play a more significant role in executive recruiting, the growth of data-driven decision making and what the future might look like.    ▪   Topics covered in the interview:    ▪   Hyper competitive talent markets    ▪   Proactive executive talent engagement    ▪   Engaging at scale and offboarding conversations quickly.    ▪   Involving hiring managers effectively    ▪   Unbiasing assessment    ▪   Measuring quality of hire    ▪   Onboarding, integration and accountability    ▪   Lessons learned around improving diversity.    ▪   What is the future of corporate executive recruiting Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

Bennett Sung is one of my favourite HR tech marketers, who also happens to be a hiring manager. I have been lucky to know Bennett for around 8 years so you will also find him on page 71 of my book, The Robot-Proof Recruiter.  Through many laughs, you'll hear us talk about: fax machines and many other things Gen Z may not understand 😉 the zero moment of truth & gathering 'social' evidence hiring marketers who are not vanilla  Giving Bennett just 3 minutes to pitch Humanly (it is very cool) Research the history of phrases before you use them 😮 Of course, his favourite interview question! Grab a cuppa, pen & paper, and settle in! 🎧 Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE  WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

One of the topics I get asked to cover frequently is the growth of the corporate executive recruiting function. So with that in mind, I've partnered with ESIX, The Executive Search Information Exchange, to bring you a series of three interviews exploring the key trends and issues in corporate executive recruiting. In episode 363, we talked about the evolution of corporate executive recruiting; in this episode, I want to explore diversity at the executive level and how employers can do better. My guest is Elizabeth Wallace, Head of Portfolio Talent at HG, and she has some valuable insights and advice to share. In the interview, we discuss:    ▪   How the pandemic is changing executive recruiting    ▪   Opening up diverse talent pools with flexible working    ▪   Diversity, Equity and Equality    ▪   Assessment for development, not selection    ▪   Social Mobility    ▪   Challenging recruiting norms    ▪   The value of talent to organisations and talent as a business function    ▪   Transparent, human leadership    ▪   Hopes for the next 12 to 18 months Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

The corporate focus on Talent Acquisition is significant at the moment as companies across the world deal with the challenges of getting the right talent into their organisations. But what strategies do talent acquisition leaders need to successfully scale their recruiting operations at a time of such significant transformation? My guest this week is someone who has been scaling recruiting teams in Silicon Valley for a long time. Richard Cho is Head of Recruiting at Robinhood, having previously been with Facebook, Dropbox, Machine Zone and The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative. Robinhood recently made headlines in the industry by acquiring recruiting firm Binc; I am delighted that Richard agreed to come on the show to talk about Robinhood's strategy and share some hugely valuable insights into the way ahead for talent acquisition. In the interview, we discuss:    ▪   The recruiting challenges at Robinhood    ▪   Building the business case    ▪   Don't normalise the extraordinary, have the right foundation of resources in place.    ▪   The three levels of talent acquisition technology    ▪   Sophisticated data modelling to build capability models    ▪   Building specialist interviewing capacity and gathering interview intelligence data    ▪   Why diversity is a selection issue, not a pipeline issue    ▪   The Binc acquisition and combining two recruiting cultures    ▪   What will the future of talent acquisition look like Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts

Great to chat to Adam Gibson, global leader in Workforce Planning, People Analytics, & Orghanisational Design, and Author of Agile Workforce Planning, about the impact of the pandemic on workforce planning and more!  the difference between workforce planning & agile workforce planning the pain of, but love of, writing a book!  where should workforce planning sit?  supporting hiring managers who don't hire often his favourite interview question human skills vs. culture and wooing better Adam's Blue Arrow posts Grab a cuppa, pen & paper, and settle in! 🎧 Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE  WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

When I saw Sukhvinder Pabial's blog about the freedom he found recruiting without an applicant's CV, I had to know more. Sukh runs his own company, Challenging Frontiers, but in our conversation you'll hear us talk about hiring for his new passion project.  We also talk about: the things you learn when running your own business what prompted the idea to open a co-working space in Epping Forest  giving yourself permission to play! hiring a Community Manager via Nextdoor app without advertising! playing with the flexibility of the role work history vs. answering 3 questions to apply supporting the needs of your people for the good of the business Grab a cuppa, pen & paper, and settle in! 🎧 Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE  WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

Welcome to the second insights interview with Sara Burgess, Senior L&D Professional, Business Psychologist, Executive Coach and my friend, all about managing disappointment.  We talked and, to be honest, laughed a lot about: embracing your inner nerd & being human what does managing disappointment even mean? understanding how our 'ideal person' may not be realistic why disappointment is a feeling of sadness checking-in, better communication & realistic timings the ongoing partnership problem Grab a cuppa, pen & paper, and settle in! 🎧 Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE 

Chatting to Tracey Parson is always a joy and her new company, WORQDRIVE, supports this very podcast but she's also a hiring manager. So I couldn't wait to hear her take on how recruiters and hiring leaders can partner better.  We covered a lot... Launching a digital newspaper, recruitment banner ads in 1997, and career sites!  Will we ever improve those job posts! And let's stop adding more names into the funnel. Making it easy for people to stay in your company! The importance of talking through the intake - no forms!! Never be the hiring manager who says 'show me more CVs'! Elegant pushback is a must. Be prepared for a lot of laughs & insights! ✍🏻 Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE (as in Tracey!) WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

After seeing an empathetic post from Zuzanna Santos, assisting the people coming in to interview with her, I asked Lisa Scales to connect us. You'll soon get why Lisa was super excited that I chat to Zuzanna.  We chatted about her secret sauce when hiring for her team and: recruiting her first team member just two years ago! her growing team & helping people that suss out your social media profiles, comparing interviews with first dates 🤨  hiring manager homework, helping the process getting creative with their showreel If your recruitment could do with some secret-sauce, grab a cuppa & tune-in. 🎧 Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE    WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

In this episode, Katee and Jackye talk to Ashten Fizer about music, hair, Employee Resources Groups, and what companies can do to not just SAY they're inclusive but actually BE inclusive AF. Katee gets awkward and cries while Jackye and Ashten share some knowledge for our listeners.   If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF Also, check out the new cult Jackye joined the Nap Ministry: https://thenapministry.wordpress.com/ or on Twitter @TheNapMinistry

We should probably just call this part 1 of the Tara Robertson episode because we did not give enough time to talk about everything we wanted to discuss! We talk about data- all the data- and where DEI teams should sit in organizations, and, and, and . . . enjoy it! We absolutely loved this conversation and cannot wait for our next one with Tara!   If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

In this episode, we are joined by Jess Von Bank, Storyteller, President of Diverse Daisies, Head of Marketing for Leapgen, promoter of women, #GirlMom and all-around bada$$. We talk about ALL THE THINGS in this episode and learn that Jess is not an A$$hole! LOL! We encourage you to listen and learn and join Jackye and Katee in their fan girl-ing of Jess. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF    

It took only a few moments to understand why Heidi Wassini said that I must speak interview Ch'ien Chan. He's the Head of Design at Vivino, the world's largest online wine marketplace, and you'll soon hear their high level of mutual respect.  Besides Ch'ien's natural extroversion and incredible background, working for household name companies on two continents, Ch'ien is the only hiring manager I know who has trawled through 387 CVs. Unsurprisingly, he realised this isn't the way to recruit effectively! It certainly gave him empathy for what recruiters go through and the willingness to let Heidi challenge the status quo, his personal mantra. You'll hear Ch'ien talk about relinquishing control as a self-appointed "anal-retentive Virgo", which is a control freak to you and me, and what working with Nicklas Pyrdol, of Innoflow, achieved. Innoflow is an anonymised case-based recruitment process to discover talent and potential in a way you haven't previously. They state it makes the process fair, unbiased and efficient. So did it help Ch'ien Chan?  If your recruitment could do with a shake-up, grab your headset & have a listen. 🎧 Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE  WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

This episode will make you smile! We were fortunate to have Goolie Alvarez come and share a bit about Goolie, fashion, Tejano culture and so much more. Goolie is a beautiful human and we cannot wait to share a bit of Goolie with you!   If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf   We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

Snooping around Anna Boyarkina's profile had me super curious to hear about her career to date; from studying economics & business to starting an events business and TEDxPerm to her current role as Head of Product Use Cases. In minutes, you'll be glad you listened in. We chatted about Anna joining Miro when it was just 11 people and the opportunity that creates, building the company based on what people believe in and are doing, and their mission to empower teams to create the next big thing. Referred by Alla Pavlova, I could soon see why! Anna believes great talent brings a lot to a company but how she does this, well it surprised me. Listen in to hear how she sources herself so she can find profiles and set the bar of what she's looking for, which is easier than asking recruiters to read her mind. 🔮 We also chatted about the importance of cadence and doing your homework, adding your recruiters to your favourites, and the honour it is to hire the people for your company! 🤩 Grab your headset, a cuppa, & settle in. 🎧 Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE  WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

As soon as I was introduced to Iris Kroonstuiver, I knew it was going to be an amazing conversation and it sure is, grab pen and paper. Of course, Iris is an exceptional hiring leader (referred by Alla Pavlova, thank you!) so you'll hear some great tips for partnering better with recruiters and lesson learned as she grew into the role of hiring leader and her new role at GameHouse.  But I also had to delve into what it's like working in the male-dominated gaming industry, even though 46% of gamers are womxn, which didn't quite lead where I expected it to.... so rather than me try and explain, grab your 🎧 and hear it first hand. Consider it a 32-minute investment into your talent acquisition! 🧡 Huge 💚  to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE  WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

At the end of this conversation, you'll know why I was excited to speak to Operations Director, Kay Epps, after Michael Goldberg kindly made the introduction.  Kay talks about 'loving the bricks', working in a white male-dominated industry, and the resilience it took to secure the career she loves - a great lesson for today's new grads! Plus why it's important to have a coach & support network. We went into depth about the impact of the social justice events of 2020 & why this time it is creating the difficult conversations & investment that is needed in DEI. And belonging! She recommended Motivation by Daniel Pink and praised Atlassian for 'getting' motivation and the impact of Aubrey Blanche. She shared what it was like to receive an apology from her Executive, and why he was initially inactive; totally inspiring! We also chatted about shared responsibility and that we must get comfortable with uncomfortable conversations. And as for Kay's tips for hiring leaders & recruiters, grab a pen! ✍🏻   Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

Without hesitation, Alla Pavlova said, "Joshua Hoffman!" when I asked for a fabulous hiring leader to interview and in 30 minutes you'll understand why! As a recruiter, she has seen how the engineers respect him and his effective hiring decisions. I couldn't wait to ask Joshua about his love of startups, old hardware and, especially, what he means by integrity-based recruiting. We chatted about his want that candidates leave feeling great about the process and willing to recommend others, and the issue hiring leaders have delivering feedback, even though they should! You'll also hear what he experienced working in an engineering team that was 40% female!! And some ways you can help improve your engineering teams gender balance. Enough about what you'll hear, grab a cuppa & settle in... Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

Suzanne Wolko is a fabulous Financial Services Executive with experience in Finance, HR and Operations, and a slayer of "this is how we've always done it" mentality which I adore, of course. She doesn't fit in a box. A recruiter's nightmare to understand instantly and overlooked because let's be honest, we don't really know what to do with, erm, hybrids. 😖 In fact, a recruiter called her weird! Worse, she has a gap. Gasp. 🙄 You'd think in a global pandemic this would be less of an issue but it appears gap bias is rife so I couldn't wait to chat with Suzanne about her experiences when she recruited people with gaps and why leaders are missing a trick allowing their bias to remain unchecked. We also talked about age bias, trusting your recruiters, "order taking" and more. 🧡 Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

You are seeing more people talk about how, there needs to be more mental health, resources, and communities. It starts from these small, one-on-one conversations to these larger like workplace conversations to these policy conversations. It all bridges out. That's why we can't stop talking about it. Tamara Raspberry talks to us about mental health and the importance of having transparent conversations If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF​ SHOW LESS

By the end of this interview with CIO & CTO, Peter Nichol, two of his books were in my shopping basket (but don't tell him I was multi-tasking!). If you're busy hiring for IQ or EQ, you'll want to hear why you should be hiring for LQ! Lost? Don't worry, in 31 minutes you'll have heard why! Plus Peter shares his tips for interviewing, how he's grown as a hiring manager, and of course why you'll benefit from partnering better with recruiters.  Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE! WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

What a joy to interview Jennifer Zaborowski, PhD Associate Director, IT Business Operations about leadership, recruiting and mentoring. Cartoon and playground references, the importance of building women up, the book Hardball for Women, the different perspective women, especially women leaders, bring to male-dominated industries, and, of course, sprinkled with many laughs. Jennifer shared why she relies on recruiters to keep her up to date and hiring leaders will be inspired by her perspective on wide-angled versus laser-focused team members.  Grab a cuppa & settle in. Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE! WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚

Jackye and Katee have a great conversation with Rowdy Duncan, as part of a cross-over from his podcast, Inclusive Activism. Rowdy is a Communications Professor and advocate for Inclusion. Rowdy has great insights on language, stories of Indigeneity and what family really means. Rowdy is such an insightful communicator, who shares the world with his students and teaches us in this episode.   If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf   We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

There was never going to be anyone else but Glenn Elliott as the first guest on The Hiring Partner Perspective (Unedited) and why will become very clear to you during the course of this episode. Glenn & I met when I ran the very first DisruptHR London event and he invited me to his offices to discuss how Reward Gateway could support the event. Glenn was totally in support of my decision to use sponsors to raise funds for Hope for Justice charity and RG has supported ever since not only as a sponsor but through the RG Foundation & Catrin Lewis's personal contribution. When you walk the floors of Reward Gateway you become awestruck by not only the kindness of their (now former) leader but how lovely all the staff are. It's something you want to bottle and take into every company! Besides the opportunity to ask Glenn - a CEO!! - why he read The Robot-Proof Recruiter twice, we also talked about how he got so good at hiring great people both at RG and now at Tenzing. Context & vulnerability... and a whole load more!  Grab a pen & paper. Huge 💚 to episode sponsor WORQDRIVE! WORQDRIVE Shift: Your Talent Strategy! Imagine Internal Mobility your employees will actually rally behind. 💚