With recruiting challenges so acute and talent acquisition technology developing at such a great pace, tech stack adoption and transformation strategies are critical for many employers. So what are the key issues, and how are talent acquisition teams specializing and evolving to exploit new technologies and methodologies? My guest this week is Samantha Ramsay, Head of Experienced Hire UK&I at EY. I caught up with her a couple of weeks ago at UNLEASH World in Paris, where she was delivering a presentation about Tech Transformation. In the interview, we discuss: Current challenges in talent acquisition Driving change in recruiting Asking five whys to get to the root cause of the problem Building stakeholder consensus What makes a great vendor/employer partnership Talent intelligence Using CRMs in the right way Developing specialist skills within TA functions Building long term engagement and affinity with talent pools What does the future look like? Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

If you attended UNLEASH in Paris earlier this month, you know what a must-attend event it is. If you didn’t attend, well, we’d better see you there next year. Marc Coleman, the man behind the conference, sat down with Chad & Cheese for a rundown of the highlights, as well as preview the show in Vegas next spring. 

We joke about VONQ sounding like an STD our "roommate" caught in college, as well as saying their executive teams look like the bad guys from the Bruce Willis classic Die Hard, but truth be told, they're a company making waves in the employment space. That's why we recently sat down with CEO Arno Schäfer to dig into what's going on at the company. Turns out they're doing some really interesting things, like private labeling their tech so applicant tracking systems can make even more money. What a world, amirite!?!?! Enjoy this one, live from UNLEASHworld in Paris.

One of the most encouraging aspects of our changing world work has been the number of employers actively seeking to recruit neurodiverse talent. However, it is estimated that 15-20% of the world's population is neurodivergent, and there is still a vast amount of work to do to ensure that our workplaces are inclusive for all and that employers benefit from supporting everyone to work to their full potential.  My guest this week is Genie Love, an Executive Function Coach who works with neurodiverse professionals to help them achieve their personal and professional goals. In our conversation, she offers many practical insights into how employers can support their people at work. In the interview, we discuss: Understanding the unique strengths of neurodivergent people Time, attention, decision making, and organization Energy levels and strategies for deep work How can employers be more inclusive? Re-imagining job descriptions and interviews The power of thinking differently  Subscribe to this podcast in Apple Podcasts

Anyone who has seen me speak this year knows that I consider personalization the next big trend in talent acquisition. If they get their strategies right, the rapid growth in automation technologies allows employers to offer a bespoke candidate experience at scale. So which employers are doing this well, and what can we learn from them? My guest this week is Lisa Scales, Head of Talent Acquisition for the UK and Ireland at Nestle. In our wide-ranging conversation, recorded at UNLEASH World in Paris, Lisa talks us through Nestle's strategies around personalization and the results they're getting. In the interview, we discuss: The turbulent market and conflicting tensions for talent acquisition Scarcity of skills Removing repetitive transactional tasks Using conversational AI to answer previously unanswered questions The power of personalization The time, place and wishlist for automation Personalized onboarding Why automated selection can amplify systemic bias Moments that matter, interesting technologies, and the deskless workforce What does the future look like Subscribe to this podcast in Apple Podcasts A full transcription will appear here shortly.

Mary Faulkner talks to Mark Feffer about the drive to learn: Many organizations seem to lose sight of the learning experience, and then they wonder why people quit.

How often do you hear an interview with a recruiter who’s done time at Cisco, Facebook, Docusign, eBay, Robinhood and now Gem? Well, today’s your lucky day. Chad & Cheese has a chat with Richard Cho, Chief Recruiting Officer at Gem to talk about a wide variety of challenges around being a CRO, like recognizing that the bottom-line rules all, navigating the Chief People Officer and managing a down economy. We even veer off course down Memory Lane once or twice. Enjoy. 

Maya Huber, CoFounder and CEO of TaTiO.io joins The Recruitment Flex. With a Phd in Occupational Therapy and 15 years in HR, Maya knows exactly where the problem is. Resumes are a one dimensional piece of paper with your work history and can not convey the work you are actually good at. With HQ in TelAviv and a presence in the USA, these issues are a global problem  Enter TaTiO.io First reverse engineer the hiring process Get rid of the resumes  Create a tool to simulate the work to be performed & make it fun  Next build a 2 way marketplace for employers and job seekers

An American and a Finn meetup on Reddit and a startup is born. Finland-based Hireproof promises to make anyone a world-class interviewer just by clicking a link. Really? Yeah, really. Cofounder Nick Barth joins Chad & Cheese for a lively episode of Firing Squad, pitching his product that promises "delight," "happiness" and "less bias" in the hiring process. Is Hireproof primed to set the world on fire, or is it a wet blanket. Gotta listen.

Wow! Wow! Wow! In this episode, Katee and Jackye get to speak with Dr. Kimberly Young-McLear. She is a Black, queer, scholar, activist, strategist, engineer, cyber professional, and educator who is unreservedly committed to human resilience, human dignity, and human rights. She is an innovation and anti-oppression thought leader focused on results. In 2019, she was one of few LGBTQ active duty service members invited as a State of the Union Guest of Honor. Kimberly represented Connecticut’s 2nd District for her tireless efforts to stand against systemic bullying and harassment in the Coast Guard. Following her public testimony at a joint Congressional hearing co-led by Chairman (late) Elijah Cummings and Chairman Bennie Thompson, she has been credited for the advancement of various work environment policy and legislation. As a whistleblower and survivor of workplace psychological bullying and other forms of violence, she leverages her own experiences to build coalitions centered on dignity, systemic change, justice, and liberation. Kimberly has numerous publications in peer-reviewed journals and has been invited to speak at national events on a wide range of justice topics. She has been featured in numerous outlets, including, The New York Times, Associated Press, Reuters, Forbes, and a cover issue of Glamour. As you might already have figured out, this is only part 1! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

Over 8 million workers in the U.S. identify as LGBT. Spoiler alert: That's a lot! Yet, corporate America isn't very hospitable to this influential demo when it comes to work. In fact, a recent UCLA survey found 50 percent of LGBT employees are not 'out' to their supervisors, and 34 percent of LGBT have left their job due to treatment by their employers. What's the problem? Never fear, we have answers. That's why we invited Sara Grossman, founder & CEO of CODE-MKTG, and Sabrina Kent, EVP of programs and external affairs for the National LGBT Chamber of Commerce (NGLCC) to come on the pod and set us straight. Did we learn a lot? You bet we did. And you will too.

Albert Einstein once said, "I have no special talent; I am only passionately curious". I like this quote so much that I use the phrase "Passionately Curious" as the tagline for my consulting business. So you can imagine my delight then when I came across a book on workplace curiosity written by Stefaan van Hooydonk, the founder of The Global Curiosity Institute, who is my guest this week. A former Chief Learning Officer, Stefaan has done some pioneering work on the science behind curiosity and why improving the skill of curiosity is essential in the modern world of work, both at an individual and organizational level.  In the interview, we discuss: The story behind the Global Curiosity Institute Intentional curiosity Why and how you can train curiosity The importance of curiosity to organizations Measuring curiosity on an individual and organizational basis Creating a curious culture Awareness, Intentionality and Measurement The importance of learning something new Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak with Maya Huber, the CEO & co-founder of TaTiO. She holds a PhD in occupational therapy, with main expertise in the fields of job analysis and the future of work. Maya has 15 years of practical and research experience managing HR companies focusing on work inclusion of vulnerable population groups. Maya worked in the HR industry for years and met thousands of job seekers and recruiters who struggled for a good match, making it clear that a change had to be made. Together with her partners Mor Panfil (COO) and Nir Familiar (CTO) and their extensive experience in building tech products, the team is designing a new mechanism of hiring. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

The winds of change isn’t just a killer Scorpions' tune from the ‘80s. It also defines recruitment marketing in 2022. Pay transparency is trending, TikTok is on the top of every employers’ lips and CEOs actually stand for something … both good and bad, depending on how you view the world. Jump on and enjoy the ride, as Julie Calli, President at RecruitmentMarketing.com President joins Chad & Cheese to dive into what’s hot. 

Covid’s impact, how companies can use benefits to keep employees on board and how they evolve to meet the times.

As talent acquisition rapidly adapts to disruptive times, innovative ways of working and new technologies are being adopted at an unprecedented pace. So, where are the most successful TA teams focusing and what are the mindset shifts we are now seeing in the industry? My guest this week is Will Staney, founder of Proactive Talent and co-founder of industry community The Talent Brand Alliance. Will has a long history of innovation in talent acquisition and shares his insight into the short-term and long-term strategies the most successful TA teams are currently building. In the interview, we discuss: The current state of the market Staying lean and nimble while adopting best practices What are the most successful TA teams focusing on Retention, culture and brand Working on short-term and long-term simultaneously  Optimization, automation and augmentation Agile RPO The rise of the gig economy in talent acquisition Game-changing technology The link between employer branding, DE&I and profit Human-centric recruiting and the future of talent acquisition Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

In this episode, Katee and Jackye chat with Maureen “Mo” Berkner Boyt. Mo is the Founder and CEO of The Moxie Exchange. She’s spent over 30 years helping organizations grow by creating inclusive workplaces where talented people can thrive. She has leveraged the power of technology to build scalable, actionable, measurable inclusion tools, including the first-of-its-kind comprehensive diversity and inclusion app, Everyday Inclusion. Everyday Inclusion was named a solution that infuses DEI into daily operations by Forrester Research and has been called, “the future of diversity and inclusion.” Mo hosts a weekly live cast with DEI practitioners to amplify work being done in organizations of all sizes and industries providing the DEI community an accessible, ongoing avenue to learn from one another. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

The boys recently held a private event at HR Tech for around 40 people with ThisWay founder and CEO Angela Hood. Luckily for you, the mics were on, so we caught the whole conversation, just for you. We discuss what happens when you become a Google accelerated startup, what unbiased recruiting really looks like, the dos and don'ts of crowdfunding, and much more. It's like you're a fly on the wall. Enjoy.

This week we welcome Laura Darrell, author of The Great Resignation: How coaching and leadership can help you win war for talent. Bringing the credibility of real life experience and impressive credentials, Laura’s new book explores the underlying drivers of the great resignation. She bring us the insights from global research that is undeniable.  Laura shares what millennials and GenZ are demanding from their leadership. It’s so simple yet so overlooked On this episode you will get this: the number 1 reason The Great Resignation happened (is still happening) is ….  People have options like never before in the history of work The fall out of working from home Job seekers want quality work

With continuing skills shortages and massive disruption to how and where work is done, it is not surprising to see innovation as employers start to think differently about talent. Fractional hiring is rising and has some significant benefits to employers and employees. But what is it, how does it work, and how is it different from traditional interim and contract hiring? My guest this week is Matt Widdoes, CEO of Mavan. Mavan is a globally dispersed network of specialized former growth leaders at iconic tech brands working fractionally, and Matt has some unique insights to share on this growing trend. In the interview, we discuss: What is fractional hiring? Recruiting as the key to growth The current state of the talent market Specialist talent as a resource that can be turned on and off Benefits for organizations and the implications for the career development of individuals The mindset shift employers need to make to use fractional working successfully.  Decentralized talent pools The kind of roles that can be fractional How is fractional different from interim and contract? What does the future of work look like Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

This is a special cross-over episode with The Talent Savvy Podcast hosted by Bas van de Haterd and Marlies Farrill. It was a pleasure to join them for a conversation about the latest thinking in candidate experience, undoubtedly an evergreen topic in talent acquisition. If you've not listened to the Talent Savvy podcast before, I would highly recommend subscribing for a great mix of informed opinion and practical advice. In our conversation, we discuss: Why candidate experience isn't an object to fix An automated personalized experience at scale Technology innovation and unchanging human nature Differing attitudes to feedback in North America and Europe Do we have the right tools to provide quality feedback? Consistent and regular communication Motivation and targeted marketing Examples of employers who are getting things right Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

How data’s used today, the role of innovation in analytics and user-friendly data.

DailyPay's global chief innovation and marketing officer looks at the business and its future.

Colin Yasukochi from CBRE Tech Insights Centre joins us to discuss the state of Tech hiring. Let’s unpack all 140 pages of the 2022 Tech Talent Report. Colin gives us some of the key findings in an easy to understand and logical style. Prepare to be impressed. Colin shares valuable insights that all TA professionals can leverage.  https://www.cbre.com/press-releases/cbre-annual-scoring-tech-talent-report-2022 Highlights of our conversation: The impact of remote work in US and Canada How remote work will, over time, boost DEI in the technology sector. Office space is still needed, it’s just different configurations on how people work Tech company layoffs? 80% were non technical role Dallas, Miami & Toronto are heating up as great tech hubs. Find out the top 5 reasons why.

Ever feel like your performance reviews are stuck in the 1940s? Well, you're not alone, but it's probably time to join the party and jump into the 21st Century. That's why we invited Confirm.com on Firing Squad. This company, led by CEO Josh Merrill, the former CPO at Carta, thinks they have the answer to give employee review software a big refresh. Blame the Millennials. And yeah, they have some well-funded competitors that might have something to say about their success. Don't worry, we'll get into that. Can they pull it off? Gotta listen to find out.

I've never known a more disruptive, uncertain and confusing time in talent acquisition. With so much complexity in the market, it can be challenging for TA talent to get a clear picture of what is happening outside of their own organisations. My guest this week is Sven Elbert, Senior Analyst at Fosway Group. Fosway is Europes leading HR industry analyst and has recently published its Talent Acquisition Realities 2022 report, a piece of research that looks at the key challenges, trends and forces TA teams are currently dealing with. This is a must listen for anyone wanting an independent view of what is going on in the market. In the interview, we discuss: Stand out findings from the research. The impacts of uncertainty on hiring Quality of hire What TA teams report they are most and least effective at How is DE&I working in practice? Current market changes Availability of skills The most in demand recruiting technologies Are tech stacks currently fit for purpose? Conducting the candidate experience orchestra Upskilling recruiters Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

Many employers are focusing hard on diversifying their talent pools at the moment. It has been encouraging to bring so many stories to the podcast about employers working to connect with historically marginalized groups and embracing more open approaches to hiring. However, diverse hiring is pointless without addressing equity and inclusion at a systemic level within organizations. My guests this week are Dr Tina Opie and Dr Beth Livingston, authors of the soon to be published book "Shared Sisterhood". Share Sisterhood embodies a practical methodology that gives employees a starting point with diversity, equity, and inclusion. It inspires employees to explore their personal assumptions, build connections and take collective action. In the interview, we discuss: Shared Sisterhood as a radically optimistic philosophy Power dominant and historically marginalized groups Addressing equity at a systemic level Building authentic connections with people who are different to you Where to start with DE&I Dig, Bridge and Collective Action The difference between equality and equity Metrics and accountability Ally versus Accomplise versus Co-Conspirator Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcast.

Europe is largely an aging, over-regulated, polarized economy with immigration challenges and a war on its doorstep. That's the bad news. Now to the good news, as told by Intelligence Group's CEO and founder Geert-Jan Waasdorp: The Old World is a more equitable, tech-driven, dynamic economy that's on solid footing and filled with interesting startups. But can he sell that rosy vision to Chad & Cheese? You need to listen to find out.

Security issues employers are concerned about, how HR should stay on top and, of course, data.

We talk with Harver CEO Scott Landers, who recently made a notable move with the acquisition of pymetrics..

The battle to be the Swiss Army Knife for all things hiring is real. While many vendors may serve as your pocket scissors, can opener or toothpick, few can promise every feature while also delivering the goods. Sense (www.sensehq.com) claims to be that Swiss Army Knife, providing all things from the top of the funnel to the bottom. Do they deliver on that promise? You'll just have to listen, now won't you?

Some of my favourite discussions on this show have been with employers driving diversity, equity, and inclusion, not just because it is the right thing to do but because they are using their DE&I strategies to solve specific business challenges. My guest this week is Graham Briggs, Head of Apprenticeships & Employability Programmes at Greene King, the UK's largest pub retailer and brewer. The hospitality sector has had an extremely challenging few years. Greene King has been running some incredible programmes to reach diverse talent pools and deliver positive outcomes for their business and the communities they work with.  In the interview, we discuss: The recruiting challenges in hospitality Challenging perceptions about career development Employability and social mobility Communities and values Untapping potential The importance of C-Suite support Partnering with external organisations to reach out to new pools of talent Delivering positive outcomes for young people Building confidence and focusing on wellbeing Working with prison leavers Support, development and retention Business outcomes and results Working with other employers to lobby government Advice to TA leaders looking to build similar programmes Plans for the future Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

The importance of culture, the real need for cultural solutions, and how analytics contributes to it all.

In this episode, Katee and Jackye check in with T. Tara Turk-Haynes, the VP of DEI and Talent Management at Leaf Group where she oversees Leaf Group’s diversity, equity, and inclusion as well as hiring efforts. They discuss engagement surveys and other people processes- give it a listen. T. Tara Turk- Haynes joined Leaf Group in 2016 as Director, People, where she led the company’s employee engagement, talent acquisition and learning and development programs. T. Tara has worked in Editorial at Variety Magazine, serving as a Project Lead for the Rizzoli book, "Variety: An Illustrated History of the World from The Most Important Magazine in Hollywood" by Tim Gray. She has also worked at Metacloud (a Cisco company), Ticketmaster, NBC Universal, Sundance Channel, and Penguin Putnam. She is a first generation graduate from Eugene Lang College at The New School where she studied Social, Cultural and Urban Studies and Sarah Lawrence College where she studied theatre. Her work has appeared in Tamara Winfrey Harris’s “Dear Black Girl” - a letter to young Black girls from Black Women along with Tarana Burke and others. She has also been featured in Lars Schmidt’s “Redefining HR” book as well his podcast. She has been featured on several podcasts, panels, and workshops on equitable workplaces and hiring. She is also a playwright and most recently completed a Geffen Writer’s room fellowship. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

He’s seen the world of work from all its angles, and now he's going to help us put its changes in perspective.

Work and jobs are changing, and the way companies select and hire people needs to keep up with this pace of change. We've always talked a lot about soft skills in talent acquisition, but what are they in the context of modern work, why are they important, and how can they be assessed? My guest this week is Dr Alan Redman, Head of Science and Technology at Clevry. Alan is an expert in the definition, assessment and impact of soft skills and has some very valuable insights to share. In the interview, we discuss: Perspectives on the market and changing world of work Understanding what employees want from work What are soft skills in the context of modern work, and why are they important? Adapting to change How soft skills hiring can solve recruiting challenges Skills portability and job design Being a soft skills focused organisation How to assess and measure soft skills The future impact of AI on skills and decision making Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

Katrina Collier, author of "The Robot-Proof Recruiter" is one of our favorite guests to have on. Aside from being a proud Gen X’er and sharing a birthday with Chad (same year and everything), she is a well-loved global keynote speaker, and host of The Hiring Partner Perspective (Unedited) podcast. We chatted with her when the 1st Edition of the book came out, pre-pandemic, but the 2nd edition is just as appetizing. In it, Katrina teaches companies how to recruit without an existing online presence, and she covers the unexpected impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on recruiting in detail. Oh yeah, and there are plenty of new case studies to discuss. Enjoy.

The 2nd Edition of The Robot Proof Recruiter will be available in North America on August 30. With relentless passion, Katrina has over 2 decades in the recruitment industry, spoken on 5 continents and now has version 2 of the must read book for everyone in TA. Always generous with her recommendations, add to your must read list, Full Stack Recruiter by Jan Tegze and take your career to the next level.  Highlights  Lessons learned about interviewing since the pandemic Biggest fail of companies in the last 2 years are those who use monitoring software Essential characteristics for recruiter to be successful Quiet Quitting - Should you just be grateful you have a job? Let’s not scare ourselves INTO a recession, its a lot of hype.

The U.S. Marines have made a career out of recruiting based on letting 18-year-olds know how tough and challenging becoming a Marine actually is. It's a concept that can also work for businesses of all sizes. That's why we invited Charlotte Marshall, director, global employer brand & recruitment marketing expert & best selling author of “Give and Get Employer Branding Repel the Many and Compel the Few with Impact, Purpose and Belonging” on the podcast. In it, Charlotte reveals why the most effective employer brands don’t attract candidates; they repel them. This episode is part of our Cult Brand series, sponsored by RecruitmentMarketing.com and the boys are joined by Julie Calli.

Reaching out to past applicants about new roles has always been a challenge in talent acquisition. Poor technology, tight timescales and inflexible processes have often limited the effectiveness of talent rediscovery. However, AI is now starting to drive some change, and talent rediscovery is becoming an ever more effective strategy. My guest this week is Mike Watson, Head of Customer Advocacy at Eightfold. Before he joined Eightfold, Mike was a long-time Head of Talent Acquisition, and, in our conversation, he shares his unique insights into the benefits and practical results of AI-driven talent rediscovery. In the interview, we discuss: The current state of the market and the effect on talent acquisition teams The threat of losing recruiter intellectual property  Warm passive talent versus cold passive talent What the ATS can't deliver Driving ROI but reducing time to hire Talent intelligence Communication strategies and best practices Which employers are doing talent rediscovery well Where is the technology taking us next? Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

How companies can nurture their culture, and why transparency is an employer’s friend.

To say that the talent acquisition market in the tech sector is complex and fast-changing at the moment would perhaps be a bit of an understatement. So how are big tech companies developing employer branding strategies that help them solve their shifting challenges, and what lessons can employers in other sectors learn from them? My guest this week is Ashlee Gerow, Senior Manager, Employer Branding at Hubspot. I've always been a massive fan of Hubspot's sophisticated and innovative approach to talent acquisition and employer branding. Ashley is very open about their recruitment challenges and how a dynamic approach to employer branding is being used to address them. In the interview, we discuss: The current tech hiring market  How employer branding is being used to solve recruiting challenges at Hubspot Developing a highly targeted strategy Cutting through the noise Advanced persona work Is who you are externally authentic to who you are internally Understanding where you are not converting and adapting accordingly How the pandemic changed Hubspot's approach Working with cross-functional teams and being deeply connected across the business Making sure the EVP is consistent throughout the entire candidate journey Using employee's stories to show, not tell Employer Branding as a constant marketing machine The role of data and technology Moving quickly to adapt, sprint and change The future of employer branding Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.

In this episode, we talk to Jackye's boss and co-founder of Textio, Kieran Snyder! The Textio platform helps with inclusive and equitable communications. After earning her PhD in linguistics at Penn, Kieran spent a decade creating the world’s most impactful language products at Microsoft and Amazon. In addition to developing linguistic capabilities like spelling and grammar-checking for more than 100 languages, she led the large-scale effort to integrate the Bing search engine into Microsoft Windows. Kieran is a world-renowned expert on language and bias at work, and her writing has appeared in Fortune, The New York Times, Slate, and the Washington Post. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF

Fom helping determine where a company’s at to initiating new programs, data grows in importance to DEI efforts.

Steve Pemberton is Best Selling Author, Philanthropist, Acclaimed Speaker, and Senior Level Executive. He wasn't given a chance in the world; he proved them wrong. Steve's chance is now focused on change. In this interview we talk about the pace of change, the fluidity of change, scaling belief and purpose, the end state of remote work, the future of equity, who was responsible for getting companies through the pandemic, and more.  Steve was not given a chance in the world and now he's changing it. Enjoy!

If there was only one interview question you could ask, what would it be?   As an industry legend and innovator, Lou has the best stories about recruitment. When he talks about Performance Based Hiring, it seems so logical; just ask intelligent questions. For someone with a track record of quitting the same job 4 times and getting kicked out of industry events, Lou’s take on what’s wrong in the interviewing and hiring process is spot on.  Join us in the fight to end ill defined job ads that offer little more than a lateral transfer by mastering how to conduct a great intake with your hiring manager.  The damage is done, Lou blames the job board industry for cheapening how we land a job.

ADP's chief of product inclusion on how software can be inclusive and how the industry works to achieve make it happen. .