To kick off Season 3 Shawn and David are talking about Ragnarok. Loki is freed from his bonds and he is joined by his children Fenrir, Jormungandr, Hel and her army of the dead, The sons of Muspell (an army of Fire Giants), and an army of Frost Giants for good measure. It's a wild scene, but as David points out, not quite as wild as the book of Revelations (you really gotta read the book of Revelations). We also start to interpret what Ragnarok might represent psychologically. Stay tuned for Ragnarok (Part 2). But before that, we will have the Fireside Chat, a live event we have been looking forward to for months. We appologize for the short notice, but hope you will be able to attend our live episode recording Friday, January 20th at 8pm Eastern, 5pm Pacific. We are going to talk about our plans for Season 3, Shawn is going to read Völundarkviða, The poem of Volund the Smith, by a fire, and we will be drinking from our viking drinking horns. It will be followed by a Q&A and we look forward to meeting our fans. Register for the event here: https://thewalledgarden.com/betweentworavensfireside The Fireside Chat is free to attend, but feel free to donate $5 if you want to support our eccentric purchase of custom engraved viking drinking horns: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing: Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com). Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found. Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the other Walled Garden contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David interviews Simon Drew, Poet, Podcaster, and Founder of The Walled Garden Philosophical Society. In our conversation, we talk about the founding of The Walled Garden, and it's mission of "finding Wisdom, wherever it might be found". How poetry and mysticism contribute to the mission of a philosophical society. We discuss pathways to initiation, including mythology and philosophy, as ways to understand Wisdom. We discuss our own journeys of coming to understand what we know and what we don't know. Simon also shares one of his poems, The Mystic, to explain "What is a Mystic anyways?" There is an event with Professor Joe Siracusa on January 5th. If you are interested in attending and want a 50% off discount code, contact me on Twitter. https://thewalledgarden.com/humanbeinginglobalizedworld Links to two of Joe’s podcast episodes with Walled Garden: https://player.fm/series/the-walled-garden-2364564/the-power-of-the-human-spirit-with-prof-joe-siracusa https://anchor.fm/thewalledgarden/episodes/Prof--Joseph-Siracusa--911-and-American-Diplomacy-e19apja Rocco Jarmin’s Eyes Wide Open Podcast: https://eyeswideopenlife.org/podcast/ My I Ching episode and The Walled Garden Episode with Paul O'Brien. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s1-episode-22-b2r-short-divination-and-the-i-ching/id1604263830?i=1000565923175 https://thewalledgarden.com/paul-obrien-divination-the-i-ching Poem 'The Mystic' at Simon’s ‘The Sanctuary’ within the Walled Garden. https://thewalledgarden.com/thesanctuary Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast) to get updates about the Fireside Chat, planned for early January 2023. A live Between Two Ravens event where fans can watch Shawn and David record a live episode, read a myth by a fire, and answer fan questions. It is free for everyone to attend and we look forward to meeting some of our fans face to face (so to speak). The event will be posted at https://thewalledgarden.com/events Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David brings a both light hearted and serious look at the celebration of Yule. A completely non-comprehensive take on the idea of celebrating the Winter Solstice from an archetypal perspective and reflecting on our modern traditions that reflect back to a much earlier time before the Christianization of the season. The Recipe for Wassail: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/12/22/wassail-recipe/ Links, references, and sources of inspiration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_Christmas_folklore https://www.learnreligions.com/holly-king-and-the-oak-king-2562991 https://www.learnreligions.com/go-a-wassailing-for-yule-2562973 https://www.learnreligions.com/history-of-yule-2562997 https://seawitchbotanicals.com/blogs/swb/celebrating-yule-the-chill-version-of-christmas https://wyrddesigns.wordpress.com/2018/12/21/the-twelve-days-of-yule-from-mothers-night-thru-twelfth-night/ https://brodgar.co.uk/2020/12/14/odin-as-santa-claus-and-other-norse-yule-myths/ https://www.scandinavianchristmastraditions.com/oldnorseyule.html Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast) to get updates about the Fireside Chat, planned for early January 2023. A live Between Two Ravens event where fans can watch Shawn and David record a live episode, read a myth by a fire, and answer fan questions. It is free for everyone to attend and we look forward to meeting some of our fans face to face (so to speak). The event will be posted at https://thewalledgarden.com/events Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns for the Fireside Chat! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ (Updated with pictures!) Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"The Wanderer" - A poem by Shawn Gaich to celebrate the Winter Solstice and the Holiday Season. 4 years ago, Shawn's colleagues at work asked him to write a holiday poem. So of course he writes a poem where Odin (The Wanderer) toys with the souls of mortals. Though the poem was lost, Shawn was able to remember enough of it and fill in the blanks everywhere else. Note --> The obvious portion of the poem Shawn used themes from "The Saga of Ragnar Lodbrok", and a less obvious one from "How I Met Your Mother"... We hope you enjoy the things that really matter in life over the winter break. Thank you all for listening! Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast) to get updates about the Fireside Chat, planned for early January 2023. A live Between Two Ravens event where fans can watch Shawn and David record a live episode, read a myth by a fire, and answer fan questions. It is free for everyone to attend and we look forward to meeting some of our fans face to face (so to speak). The event will be posted at https://thewalledgarden.com/events Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 2, Episode 26. Shawn and David conclude the season long series on Loki: the cause of and solution to all of life's problems. Shawn recaps the adventures of Loki up to this point, and we explore the sections of Lokasenna and Gylfaginning Chapter 50 which provide the story of Loki fleeing from the Aesir after his involvement in the death of Baldur. Loki turns himself into a fish and we learn why Loki is his own worst enemy. Thor is finally not afraid to get wet, and surprise return of the long departed Kvasir. Does this prove that there is no continuity to the stories of Norse Mythology? David analyses what we can take away from the imagery of Loki the fish, and Loki's torture by a goddess, and the aid provided by Loki's wife. It is the story of the development of consciousness and awakening of the unconscious. Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast) to get updates about the Fireside Chat, planned for early January 2023. A live Between Two Ravens event where fans can watch Shawn and David record a live episode, read a myth by a fire, and answer fan questions. It is free for everyone to attend and we look forward to meeting some of our fans face to face (so to speak). The event will be posted at https://thewalledgarden.com/events Outro - Die Forelle (The Trout). Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns for the Fireside Chat! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing: Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com). Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found. Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

S2 Episode 25: B2R Short Norse Mythology and Exploring the Shadow. David shares his ideas on why there is a connection between Stoic Philosophy, Jungian Psychology, and Norse Mythology. They are all methods of seeking wisdom and healing the human soul.  I share my personal take on why Norse Mythology is the ideal mythology for understanding the archaic man within the soul of modern man and the personal shadow within the unconscious. A step which is necessary for Jungian individuation and, I argue, for Stoics on the path of the Prokopton. Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast) to get updates about the Fireside Chat, planned for early January 2023. A live Between Two Ravens event where fans can watch Shawn and David record a live episode, read a myth by a fire, and answer fan questions. It is free for everyone to attend and we look forward to meeting some of our fans face to face (so to speak). The event will be posted at https://thewalledgarden.com/events Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

S2 Episode 24: The Vikings of North America II: The Saga of the Greenlanders In this episode, Shawn discusses another version of the Norse discovery and settlement of Greenland, along with the settlement of North America, as told in "The Saga of The Greenlanders", a source written in the early to mid 13th Century. This story shows a similar but different version of events that detail these discoveries, one in which the Norse were the agressors in their first interaction with the Native Americans, killing 8 of them in cold blood. Freydis also schemes to kill a bunch of Norseman. Less awesome than her actions in "The Saga of Eirik the Red" where she pounded a sword against her exposed breast to scare the Natives in the midst of battle... Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns and participate in the December 2022 Fireside Chat! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ or https://www.patreon.com/prosocheproject Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

S2 Episode 23: The Vikings of North America: Eirik the Red's Saga In this episode, Shawn discusses the tale of the Norse discovery and settlement of Greenland, along with the accidental discovery by Leif Erikson of North America, as told in "Eirik the Red's Saga", a source written in the early 13th century. Although the story details the lives of the characters of Eirik the Red, his offspring Leif, Thorstein, and Freydis... It more so follows the adventures of Karlsefni and his adventures trying to build a permanent settlement on the New World only to fail in his venture due to the consistent threat of Native Americans. Karlsefni's wife, Gudrid, also plays a big part in this story as she was prophesized to achieve great things, along with her family line that "can be traced" to the Icelandic Bishops in the 13/14th centuries. Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns and participate in the December 2022 Fireside Chat! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ or https://www.patreon.com/prosocheproject Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Additional Info/Books Discussed: 'He: Understanding Masculine Psychology' by Robert A. Johnson: https://amzn.to/3fB18Lr Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Note --> Renamed on 7/3/23 to be the first episode on "The House of Yngling" In this episode, Shawn discusses the family line of the Ynglings. According to Snorri Sturlason's work "Ynglinga Saga", this family line supposedely started with a humanized version of the Vanir god, Njord (and his son, Freyr). The story states that Njord was a king in Uppsala, Sweden. Over the years the family of kings gained and lost land. The House of Ynglinga continued until it came to a man Named "Halvdan the Black". At this point his land controlled parts of Norway. Halvdan's son was supposedly Harold Fairhair, the first king of Norway, who is probably a historical figure. Are the Vanir gods ancestors of the first Kings of Norway??? Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns and participate in the December 2022 Fireside Chat! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ or https://www.patreon.com/prosocheproject Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Additional Info/Books Discussed: 'He: Understanding Masculine Psychology' by Robert A. Johnson: https://amzn.to/3fB18Lr Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 2 Episode 2: Freyr’s “Courtship” of Gerder (Part 2) This week Shawn and David wrap up the 2 part series on the story of how Freyr sends his servant, Skirnir, to propose to the giantess Gerdr on his behalf. Last week with them discussing Chapter 37 of Gylfaginning from the Prose Edda; however, this week them discussing its Poetic Edda counterpart, the poem, “For Skirnis”. Skirnir in this poem is…. uhhhh slightly more sinister in his approach to “coercing” Gerdr to say yes. Meaning of course he threatened her for 11 stanzas with a horrific fate if she doesn’t agree to marry the Vanir god. David continues the connection to Percival from the Fisher King. The pair also deep dive into Skirnis’ and Freyr’s motivations and insecurities, and how we all have our own forms of imposter syndrome and ambitions to take risks (or make sacrifices) in life. Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns and participate in the December 2022 Fireside Chat! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ or https://www.patreon.com/prosocheproject Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Additional Info/Books Discussed: 'He: Understanding Masculine Psychology' by Robert A. Johnson: https://amzn.to/3fB18Lr Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Shawn and David present "Lokasenna - A Radio Drama" In celebration of releasing our 50th episode. Share your vote for your favorite God/Goddess/Voice Actor on Twitter @TwoRavenPodcast Loki - The Trickster with a big mouth. Odin - King of the gods and Loki’s blood brother who swore an oath to listen to Loki’s bullshit. Bragi - The God of poetry and being inspired to write poetry after drinking good mead. Idunn - Goddess of beauty and the golden apples. Loki tried to sell her to some giants. Also Bragi’s wife. Gefjun - The goddess of plowing. She birthed 4 giant oxen to win a bet that she could have all the land she could plow in a day.  Frigg - Odin’s wife and the voice of reason. Freya - Goddess of lust, passion, witchcraft. She slept with 4 dwarves to gain a pretty necklace. Njord - The god of the sea and golden showers. father of Freyr and Freya. Tyr - The old king. The god of sacrifice and justice. Freyr - The god of fertility and The Lover (although not a very successful lover). Byggvir - The personification of Barley. Heimdall - The watchman of the gods and the god of social order.  Skadi - The huntress. She came to the Aesir after they killed her father and she was tricked into marrying Njord because he has pretty feet. Loki likes to “amuse” her. Sif - Thor’s Wife and the most blameless of all the goddesses (except for that time she slept with Loki). Beyla - Byggvir’s wife. She is the lesser goddess of bees and manure. (“the dung spattered milk-maid”). Thor - Thor hungry. Thor smash. Don’t make Thor repeat himself a 4th time. Next week look forward to Freyr Part 2 on Skirnismal from the Poetic Edda and more discussion of the Shadow aspects of Frey the Lover and how Percival finds true love and mature masculinity where Frey fails. We have talks in the works to design and create matching drinking horns for the December 2022 Fireside Chat! Click below for more info: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ You are welcome to join David's Mindfulness meet-up. Next group is November 12th, Saturday 7:30am Pacific 10:30am Eastern. It will be before the Stoicon X virtual event at The Walled Garden: https://thewalledgarden.com/events Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 2 Episode 19 Part 1 of 2 Frey's "Courtship" of Gerdr Shawn and David tell the story of Frey the lovesick lover from Snori’s Prose Edda  Frey shows up in relatively few stories, besides his arrival with the Aesir in a hostage exchange with the Vanir, Lokasenna, and Skirnismal - the story of Frey gaining the hand of the giantess Gerd, through the coercive efforts of his servant Skirnir.  Shawn and David talk about Frey as a fertility god and the archetypal Lover. David gives more detail on the myth of Percival, the Holy Grail, and the Fisher King, as a potential parallel to Frey’s story and the existing Jungian analysis of the meaning behind Percival, the Hero who finds the Lover aspect. Next week look forward to Part 2 - Skirnismal from the Poetic Edda and more discussion of the Shadow aspects of Frey the Lover and how Percival finds true love and mature masculinity where Frey fails. David is starting a mindfulness group. It's free to join and everyone is welcome. Next group is November 12th, Saturday 7:30am Pacific 10:30am Eastern. It will be before the Stoicon X virtual event at The Walled Garden: https://thewalledgarden.com/events Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns and participate in the December 2022 Fireside Chat! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ or https://www.patreon.com/prosocheproject Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Additional Info/Books Discussed: 'He: Understanding Masculine Psychology' by Robert A. Johnson: https://amzn.to/3fB18Lr Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 2, Episode 18. Part 3 of 3 for Lokasenna (Loki’s Quarrel). We complete Loki’s comedy roast of the Aesir Gods, with insults against Heimdall, Skadi, Sif (Poor Sif, what did she ever do wrong?) and Byggvir’s wife Beyla. Thor shows up and puts a bit of fear in Loki, but not before previews that the end of the Gods is nigh. Look forward to our future episode detailing the capture of Loki! David’s 1st Mindfulness Group at The Walled Garden November 5th, Saturday 7am Pacific 10am Eastern. Register here for free: https://thewalledgarden.com/post/what-is-mindfulness Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns and participate in the December 2022 Fireside Chat! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ or https://www.patreon.com/prosocheproject Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Additional Info/Books Discussed: Robert A Johnson on Percival, the Grail, and the Fisher King: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6CaN2jqNgk Lokasenna (1936 Translation by Henry Adams Bellows, with Old Norse): http://www.voluspa.org/lokasenna.htm The Poetic Edda (Crawford, Hackett Classics): https://amzn.to/3JqmsfF Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7 Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 2, Episode 17. Lokasenna (Part 2 of 3). Loki’s Quarrel. In this episode, Shawn and David continue their series on Loki with part 2 of 3 of the Poetic Edda poem, Lokasenna (Specifically stanzas 29-46). Loki continues his efforts to insult nearly every god present, adding Njorth, Frey, Freya, Byggvir, and Tyr to his already large list. Loki seems to have specific attacks implying that some of the Vanir gods, (Njorth, Frey, and Freya) have a tendency to be a tad bit incestuous with each other, an attack which none of the 3 deny. Update to Lokasenna Part 1: In the introduction, Loki gets into an argument with Fimafeng and Eldir. He kills Fimafeng and is kicked out of the party, only to come back and argue with Eldir at the entrance to the hall. Fimafeng in Old Norse means “quick service.” Eldir means “fire stoker”.  So Loki was upset the gods were praising the personification of “quick service” and kills him. He returns and Loki (Logi = primal fire) is provoked by the “fire stoker.” Truly magnificent play on words. Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns and participate in the December 2022 Fire Side Chat! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ or https://www.patreon.com/prosocheproject Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Additional Info/Books Discussed: Lokasenna (1936 Translation by Henry Adams Bellows, with Old Norse): http://www.voluspa.org/lokasenna.htm The Poetic Edda (Crawford, Hackett Classics): https://amzn.to/3JqmsfF Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7 Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we improvise a short “bonus” episode, as we were inspired to really answer the question of what evidence supports the idea of Odin and Loki being “blood brothers” or even possibly actual brothers.  There are certainly interesting parallels between Loki and Odin and inconsistent sources as to whether Loki and Odin could be long time traveling companions or even brothers.  David gives some interpretations on the idea of Loki and Odin being sons of the mother, fatherless children. That they “adopted” each other as brothers seems to fit what we know about their history. David has a controversial theory of Odin and Loki as gods of Lust and Self-Deception. But who is the third silent god in this trinity of brothers? Next week we will be back with Lokasenna (Part 2). Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Additional Info/Books Discussed: Jackson Crawford discussing the Odin, Loki, and the 3 brothers controversy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-MJSJaSHk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBg85T862dQ Lokasenna in English and Old Norse: http://www.voluspa.org/lokasenna.htm Gylfaggining 33 in English and Old Norse: http://www.voluspa.org/gylfaginning31-40.htm The Poetic Edda (Crawford, Hackett Classics): https://amzn.to/3JqmsfF Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7 Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 2, Episode 15. Lokasenna (Part 1 of 3). Loki’s Quarrel.  David and Shawn return from break and continue the series on Loki: the cause of and solution to all of life’s problems. Loki is in rare form and decides to provoke a fight while the Gods are having a party at Aegir’s hall. Loki roasts the gods one by one, as they make weak attempts to clap back at him. We discuss Stanzas 1 through 29, breaking where Loki reveals to Frigg that he was responsible for the death of Baldur. Loki calls the gods out for their hypocrisy. Shawn and David discuss the relationship between Loki and Odin, and how your oath, your word, or your virtue can be used against you. Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Additional Info/Books Discussed: Lokasenna (with Old Norse): http://www.voluspa.org/lokasenna.htm The Poetic Edda (Crawford, Hackett Classics): https://amzn.to/3JqmsfF Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7 Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David presents a short solo episode on the definition of the Archetype of the Psychopath based on Adolph Guggenbühl-Craig’s book “The Emptied Soul”. What does a psychopath have to do with Norse Mythology? Well apparently a lot, as Guggenbühl-Craig explicitly compares Norse Mythology to a state of “psychopathic depression” and nihilism. David critiques Guggenbühl-Craig’s understanding of Nordic Mythology as a whole and shares a personal theory of the transition from Loki the Trickster as a creative force, to the Trickster as a destructive force. David also reflects on the practical areas to recognize our “inner psychopath”, lust for power, and the rejection of vulnerability or Eros. You can read the text of this episode at Between Two Ravens Blog: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/09/28/the-archetype-of-the-psychopath-the-trickster-without-eros/ “The Emptied Soul”: https://amzn.to/3CdCFDl “From The Wrong Side: A Paradoxical Approach to Psychology”: https://amzn.to/3E3Fc5p Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) See behind the scenes on Patreon: https://patreon.com/prosocheproject Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David put together a bonus short episode this week, talking more about the mythological idea of a Walled Garden and more practically what The Walled Garden Philosophical Society is all about. There will be a regular short episode to be released on Friday. The Walled Garden: https://thewalledgarden.com/ The Philosophers: https://thewalledgarden.com/philosophers Simon Drew: Poet and host of The Practical Stoic and Walled Garden podcasts. Brandon Tumblin: Host of The Strong Stoic podcast. Joshua Bertolotti: Host of In Search of Wisdom podcast. Juan Perez: Host of Estoicimo Practico podcast. Judith Stove: Author and co-host of Soul Searching with Seneca podcast. Academic Philosophers: Kai Whiting and Markus Ruther Rocco Jarmin: Host of Eyes Wide Open Life podcast. Sharon LeBell: Author and philosopher. At the end of the episode I also mention a new idea for Between Two Ravens to develop some community for fans. David is starting a Patreon for his Prosoche Project blog, which includes behind the scenes writing, a private Discord chatroom, and David has a goal to offer classes/groups on Mindfulness and Dream Interpretation.  To kick it off, between September and December 2022, anyone who becomes a member on the Patreon will be invited to the Between Two Ravens virtual fireside chat, where Shawn and David will have a Q&A and we hope you join us and bring your weird fan fiction theories on the Norse gods. All donations during the Fall “funding drive” will go towards Shawn and David buying matching viking drinking horns. More details will be discussed in a future episode. If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Shawn presents a short solo episode during our brief mid-season break. Shawn talks about the history of Snori Sturluson’s Prose Edda and the book Gylfaggining. Outlining the chapters where King Gylfi visits Asgard to question the gods, creating a literary device for Snorri to share mythological lore.  Shawn gives a summary of the sections of Gylfaggining which roughly parallel our journey on the podcast exploring the creation of the cosmos, the gods and other beings of the 9 realms, adventures of Thor and Loki, and the events of Ragnarok. Shawn is sharing a document of his summary of the chapter of Gylfaggining for those interested. https://sites.google.com/view/prosoche-project/shawns-notes-gylfaginning Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Additional Info: Prose Edda (Byock; Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda “Snora Edda” (See Anthony Faulks version from the Viking Society for Northern Research): http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/ Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 2, Episode 11. The third and final installment in our series on the Ominous Dreams of the Beautiful Balder. Continuing Chapter 49 of Gylfaginning in the Prose Edda. A funeral pyre boat is prepared for Balder. Many of the gifts of the gods are sent along with Balder for his trip down the river Gjoll (again, not a river in Switzerland). Odin’s lad, Hermod, is tasked with traveling to the underworld in order to ask Hel for a chance to allow Baldur’s return to his family. Hel has a feast prepared for Baldur and is not ready to part with him so easily. All beings of the known universe must week for Baldur or he will not be allowed to return to the living. Once again, there is a chance to defy fate… but not if Loki has anything to say about it. David introduces the Greek myth of Persephone as a potential, but unexpected parallel to Baldur’s journey. Maybe Hella will not part with Baldur so easily because she expected him to be her bridegroom. David and Shawn discuss the potential for the myth of Baldur to be a hero’s journey and a myth of death, resurrection, and rebirth. The need to accept fate, allow the death of the ego (Odin letting go of Draupnir, his ring representing desire and lust for power), and find hope in there being something more beyond the death of the gods. Register for David’s meet up (September 22nd 8pm Eastern), talking about Prosoche, Stoic Mindfulness, as the starting point for the student of philosophy and seeker of wisdom. https://thewalledgarden.com/post/prosoche-stoic-mindfulness Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing: Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com). Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Additional Info: The story of Heremod, the king who would not be generous with giving rings: https://www.abdn.ac.uk/sll/disciplines/english/beowulf/kingship.htm Percival, the grail, the fisher king, and his mother’s shirt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percival) is best summarized in Robert Johnson’s book ‘He’. https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Masculine-Psychology-Robert-Johnson/dp/0060963964 Gylfaganning 49: http://www.voluspa.org/gylfaginning41-50.htm Prose Edda (Byock; Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda “Snora Edda” (See Anthony Faulks version from the Viking Society for Northern Research): http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/ John Lindow: Norse Mythology – A guide to Gods, Heroes, Rituals and Belief: https://amzn.to/3uHTiF4 Neil Gaiman - Norse Mythology: https://amzn.to/3if50zk Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, and the Divine, wherever it might be found. Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 2, Episode 10. Continuing our series on the Ominous Dreams of the Beautiful Balder.  Chapter 49 of Gylfaganing in the Prose Edda.  Odin fears that his son’s premonitions of death will come true and Balder’s mother, Frigg, obtains the oaths of all the dangers of the natural world so that they will not harm her son.  Loki returns and wants to play a little game. The gods attempt to injure Balder to prove that the oaths of protection are working. Loki deceives Frigg and is able to learn that one small plant was too young to swear an oath to the queen of the gods and can still harm Balder. The blind god Hod is easily deceived by Loki and it’s all downhill from there. Shawn and David discuss Loki and Odin’s ongoing battle for and against Fate. David introduces the Greek God Dionysus as a potential parallel for Balder. The archetype of the resurrected son. Dionysus is another son of a king god. He dies and is brought back from the underworld with the aid of a guide. Dionysus is a bit more exciting than Balder and will help David connect to parallels with the Fertility God Freyr in future episodes. Stay tuned! Ways to support us: If you have been enjoying our show, please write a 5 star review on itunes to help spread our podcast to a wider audience: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-two-ravens-a-norse-mythology-podcast/id1604263830 Follow us or leave a message on Twitter or Instagram: Twitter: (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Instagram: (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Check out David’s writing:  Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Walled Garden (https://thewalledgarden.com/davidalexander) Donate to help buy Shawn & David matching drinking horns! https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Additional Info: Gylfaganning 49: http://www.voluspa.org/gylfaginning41-50.htm Prose Edda (Byock; Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda “Snora Edda” (See Anthony Faulks version from the Viking Society for Northern Research): http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/ Our podcast is part of The Walled Garden Podcast Network. The Walled Garden is committed to the pursuit of Truth, Wisdom, Virtue, Beauty, and the Divine, wherever it might be found.  Visit thewalledgarden.com to learn more about weekly meet-ups and the writing and podcasts of our other contributors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Shawn and David discuss Balder's Draumar, a poem that is typically found in copies of the Poetic Edda, though not found in the Codex Regius Manuscript. In this short poem, Odin travels to Hel (Niflheim) to find out why his son Balder is having ominous dreams foretelling his own death. Of course the only way to do this (It is Odin, after all), is to wake a witch from the dead and ask her questions which contain answers he himself isn’t ready to hear. David discusses the Greek gods Zeus and Hermes, their similarities to aspects of Odin in this story, and introduces the idea of Baldur being a Dionysian figure. The pair also discuss the idea of fate and the significance of Odin trying to change what he knows he cannot. Is Odin's lust for knowledge and power at the expense of everything else proof the gods do not have free will? Is Odin fated by his nature to act as it has been foretold? Ways to support us: Share Our Podcast Website with a friend: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ David’s Writing - Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com). Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Donate to buy Shawn a beer or help cover our hosting costs: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Additional Info/Books Discussed: The Poetic Edda (Crawford, Hackett Classics): https://amzn.to/3JqmsfF Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Continuing with the “Monstrous Children of Loki”, This week we discuss Fenrir the Wolf and his particular connection with the god Tyr. Shawn discusses once again the idea of fate in this myth, as the gods take action on Fenrir to prevent his role in Ragnarök, are they actually helping to expedite it? David includes some interpretations on Tyr the King, the Warrior, and the Judge and how some Greek Stoic metaphors about Justice relate to Tyr “holding a thing with both hands”. We also return to discussing the Tyr rune and how you can actually apply magic to your life. Several errors we need to correct:  Fenrir is bound by the magical fetter Gleipnir ("the open one"), which is "made from things which cannot be put to the test". Gleipnir is attached to a chain named Gelgja (related to the word swallow, or gulp), passed through a rock called Gjöll (Old Norse for "noise" or "scream" or the Celtic 'Geall' for "pledge, stake, wager"), and then set under a larger stone called Thviti ("hitter", "batterer"). I don't know where David got his earlier notes from. Interested in discussions on psychology, philosophy, and wisdom? Check out The Walled Garden meet-ups (Thursdays 3pm PST, 6pm EST): (https://thewalledgarden.com/the-walled-garden-philosophical-society-meetup)  Ways to support us: Share Our Podcast Website with a friend: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ David’s Writing - Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Donate to buy Shawn a beer or help cover our hosting costs: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Additional Info: Gylfaganning 33 & 34: http://www.voluspa.org/gylfaginning31-40.htm Diana Paxson - Taking Up the Runes: https://amzn.to/34rqkyw A Guide to Gods, Heroes, Rituals and Belief by John Lindow: https://amzn.to/3uHTiF4 Prose Edda (Byock; Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda “Snora Edda” (See Anthony Faulks version from the Viking Society for Northern Research): http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/ Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 2, Episode 7, We return to the stories of Loki, “The cause of and solution to all of life’s problems.” This week Loki settles down and becomes a family man. Raising one or two children with the goddess Sigyn and he has three legendary children with the Giant Angrboda of Jotunheim: Fenrir the Wolf, Jormungandr the World Serpent, and Hel the goddess of the underworld. The Aesir are not amused and fear the harm these children will cause, sending them off to distant lands. David gives one last interpretation on Loki, Svadilfari, and the importance of Love (Eros) for the Trickster Archetype. We look at some of the parallels between Loki and Odin, review the story of Thor and the Midgard Serpent (Season 1 Episode 13), and discuss a bit about the significance of the goddess Hel (Hella).  Next week we will go in depth on Fenrir the Wolf and the myths about Loki’s less famous children.  David’s latest blog posts on mythology: Loki, Svadilfari, and the Walls of Asgard (Between Two Ravens S2 Episode 6) https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/08/06/loki-svadilfari-and-the-walls-of-asgard/ A Mythological Perspective on Trauma (Walled Garden) https://thewalledgarden.com/post/mythological-perspective-on-trauma Interested is more discussions on psychology, philosophy, and wisdom? Check out The Walled Garden meet-ups (Thursdays 3pm PST, 6pm EST): (https://thewalledgarden.com/the-walled-garden-philosophical-society-meetup)  Ways to support us: Share Our Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ David’s Writing - Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Donate to buy Shawn a beer or help cover our hosting costs: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Additional Info: Gylfagganing 33 & 34: http://www.voluspa.org/gylfaginning31-40.htm Hyndluljod (Including Voulspa et Skamma): http://www.voluspa.org/hyndluljod.htm A Guide to Gods, Heros, Rituals and Belief by John Lindow: https://amzn.to/3uHTiF4 Prose Edda (Byock; Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda “Snora Edda” (See Anthony Faulks version from the Viking Society for Northern Research): http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/ Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are taking a bit of a break this week and releasing a short episode. David had some interpretations on S2 Episode 4 that came to him a few days after the episode was released and clarifying his explanation of how to make sense of Loki's "sacrifice". We will be back next week continuing the series on Loki. Shawn is also working on another solo short episode coming soon. David's blog post associated with this podcast episode: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/08/06/loki-svadilfari-and-the-walls-of-asgard/ David's related post at the Walled Garden: "Mythological Perspective on Trauma" expanding on my associations between Loki, Slepnir, and healing trauma ("Soul Wounds"): https://thewalledgarden.com/post/mythological-perspective-on-trauma Don't forget to follow our "meme game" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast/status/1557409391032270849 Ways to support us: Share Our Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ David’s Writing - Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Donate to buy Shawn a beer or help cover our hosting costs: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our third guest interview. Kyle Kuypers is a friend/co-worker of Shawn and a generally eclectic individual who is passionate about Mythology, Story Telling, Dungeons & Dragons, and he co-hosts a fan podcast about the TV series Vanderpump Rules. We talk about Hero’s Journey, the flawed, “very human” Norse Gods. Kyle explains the history of Dungeons & Dragons, the table top role playing game which combines board gaming, war gaming, and story telling, along with its creator, Gary Gygax. How does Role Playing a character or leading a group of players compare to composing and performing Norse Skaldic Poetry? How would a character like Loki play out in a game of D&D? Kyle/Shawn at the end accomplish the impossible and make a very loose connection on the subject matter of both podcasts, Vanderpump Rules and Norse Mythology, in what can be considered the win of the century so far for both of them. It’s a fun conversation and a topic we might have to come back to again. Ways to tell modern stories and how Norse Mythology can inspire creativity. Kyle’s podcast Pump Talk: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pump-talk-a-consideration-of-vanderpump-rules/id1330715401 Twitter: @TalkPump - Let Kyle know if you are listening to Between Two Ravens and also watch Vanderpump Rules. David’s Walled Garden article on Albert Ellis, Stoicism, and CBT. (https://thewalledgarden.com/post/albert-ellis-cbt-stoicism)  David’s Recommendations for how to get into D&D: Watch Terry Crews play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IrM0zoDuSo Learn from Questing Beast about Old School Revival of D&D and easier to play rule sets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRVJNkOObIU KNAVE rule set: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtf3vDycfmE    3. Watch some other expert dungeon masters show how to take what’s fun from D&D and throw out the rest: Professor Dungeon Master: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uqyYZAh1K0 Rune Hammer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDMmGv-NPbA&list=PLlSmiQ728Xr2Pf3pGa3s6-zhhqpiw7hj_&index=12 Ways to support us: Like, Subscribe, Give us a 5 star review! Share Our Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ David’s Writing - Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com) Twitter: @ProsocheProject Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Donate to buy Shawn a beer or help cover our hosting costs: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Shawn and David discuss the myth about how Loki offers a set of ungivable gifts to a giant who was tasked to build (or repair?) the walls of Asgard. The catch being that the giant would need to finish the wall within a certain thought to be impossible timeframe. However, due to the giants trusty horse, Svadilfari, the giant seems on pace to finish in time. The gods, once again pissed off, threaten Loki to fix the situation, which he does. The good news is that Loki's actions pave the way for the birth of Odin's trusty eight-legged steed, Sleipnir; however, the unfortunate news being a rather disturbing result for the mischief god himself... Interested is more discussions on psychology, philosophy, and wisdom? Check out The Walled Garden meet-ups: (https://thewalledgarden.com/the-walled-garden-philosophical-society-meetup)  August 4th David of Between Two Ravens presents Albert Ellis: Stoicism as the root of cognitive behavior therapy. Ways to support us: Share Our Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ David’s Writing - Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Donate to buy Shawn a beer or help cover our hosting costs: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Additional Info: A comparison of versions of Prose Edda: https://www.mimisbrunnr.info/edda-to-english Prose Edda (Byock; Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda “Snora Edda” (See Anthony Faulks version from the Viking Society for Northern Research): http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/ The Poetic Edda: A Study Guide (Tezner) https://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Edda-Study-Guide/dp/1795087757 Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Continuing our series on “Loki - The cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems.” Loki has pissed off Skadi, the giant goddess of hunting and skiing, by getting her father Thjazi killed. Loki solves problems the only way he knows how. By tricking her into marrying Njord rather than her preferred groom, the beautiful Baldur, and then Loki tries to make Skadi laugh by tying one half of a cord to his testicles, and the other half to a goat. It gets real weird this week. Shawn and David present their theories that Loki is the god of kink, Njord is a polygamist, Idunn is Thjazi’s sister, and that Loki’s “sacrifice” to appease the goddess is actually a meaningful lesson and not just a bit. We answer a fan question on “How are angels represented in Norse Mythology?” (4:30) and start the myth of the week at 11:15 mark. Interested is more discussions on psychology, philosophy, and wisdom? Check out The Walled Garden meet-ups: (https://thewalledgarden.com/the-walled-garden-philosophical-society-meetup)  July 28th Author Sharron LeBell discusses the life and work of the inspiring Edith Edger. August 4th David of Between Two Ravens presents Albert Ellis: Stoicism as the root of cognitive behavior therapy. This week, David was inspired by: We discussed part of Rocco Jarmin’s episode in regards to cognitive biases and instinct in relation to self-deception: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1a230lovJP20d29zwnEW0j Shout out to @RenaissanceWisdom on Instagram for the inspirational quote from Zeno, the founder of Stoicism, on the relationship between Wisdom and Self-deception. Ways to support us: Share Our Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ David’s Writing - Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Donate to buy Shawn a beer or help cover our hosting costs: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Additional Info: A comparison of versions of Prose Edda: https://www.mimisbrunnr.info/edda-to-english Prose Edda (Byock; Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda “Snora Edda” (See Anthony Faulks version from the Viking Society for Northern Research): http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/ Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 2 Episode 2. Continuing our series on “Loki - The cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems.” Loki gets himself in a pickle and the only solution is to sell out the goddess Idunn to the giant Thjazi. The only problem is, all of the Aesir are dependent on Idunn to supply them with magic apples that give the gift of eternal youth.  Under threat of torture and execution, Loki once again has to finish what he started.  Shawn has some background on the “Norse Trinity” of gods, the confusion about Thjazi the Giant / Dwarf / Dark Elf, and fan-theory on the relationship between Thjazi and Idunn. David has some interpretations on the significance of Idunn, her apples, and Loki’s relationship to the repressed inner feminine in a man’s life.  Ways to support us: Share Our Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ David’s Writing - Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com).  David presents a meet-up on Albert Ellis, Stoicism, and CBT, August 4th, 2022 @ 6pm EST (https://thewalledgarden.com/the-walled-garden-philosophical-society-meetup)  Follow us on Twitter (@TwoRavenPodcast): https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram (@BetweenTwoRavens): https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Donate to buy Shawn a beer or help cover our hosting costs: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Additional Info: A comparison of versions of Prose Edda: https://www.mimisbrunnr.info/edda-to-english Prose Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda “Snora Edda” (See Anthony Faulks version from the Viking Society for Northern Research): http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/ Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode description: The start of Season 2! Shawn and David discuss the myth of Sif’s Golden Hair and Loki’s gifts for the gods from The Prose Edda, Skaldskaparmal. Loki creates one problem after another, but it all pays off for the gods in the end.  Shawn provides some context on sources outside of Prose Edda relating to the gifts of the gods and the dwarven smiths. David interprets potential meanings of the symbols represented in each gift given to the gods in exchange for Loki’s offense. We provide some updates on Shawn’s travel plans and David’s new writing project Prosoche Project (www.prosocheproject.com). David is now contributing articles with the Walled Garden Philosophical Society (www.thewalledgarden.com). The Walled Garden has weekly video meet-ups talking about Philosophy, Spirituality, and Poetry as sources of Wisdom, so come check it out. https://thewalledgarden.com/the-walled-garden-philosophical-society-meetup David will be presenting his meet-up on August 4th, 6pm EST. A comparison of versions of Prose Edda: https://www.mimisbrunnr.info/edda-to-english Prose Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda “Snora Edda” (See Anthony Faulks version from the Viking Society for Northern Research): http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/ Neil Gaiman’s Norse Mythology is a really good book. https://amzn.to/3nFODi9  It’s worth getting the hardcover and @NeilHimself is just a wonderful person to follow on Twitter.  Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode Shawn discusses Viking Age England from 787-878 CE in part 1 of the series as told by the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle. He briefly discusses the first centuries of Anglo-Saxon England in the lead up to the Viking Age. He then goes on to discuss the Viking Age itself along with the early raids, and the lead up to the arrival of the Great Heathen Army in 866. One by one the kingdoms fell, until the last Kingdom of Wessex, and its King Alfred defeated the pagan general Guthrum in a decisive battle. In the episode Shawn discusses the ambition of Alfred's Grandfather, King Ecbert, (the same dude from "Vikings" the tv show), who for a brief time in the early to mid 800s subjected the rest of the Anglo-Saxon Kingdoms to his rule. Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week David is interviewing Ashley McKenna, a seeker of Wisdom with education in Transformational Psychology and experience related to Shamanism. David and Ashley look at the myth Voluspa and get Ashley’s interpretation; not only what does the myth mean, but what does it make you feel? We talk about phenomenology in psychology and Ashley shares how the idea of mythological Origin Story can apply to understanding ourselves and our own origin story. Read Voulspa free online: https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe03.htm Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 0 "Episode 0.2". This is the first episode we recorded December 9, 2021. In the initial planning episode we talk about what we think our podcast might be about and testing how bad our recording equipment is. Feel free to skip this episode, unless you are interested in our brainstorming process. In this episode David and Shawn describe how we got into this whole Norse Mythology idea, Shawn talks about his interest in Dark Ages history, the historical method as a way to understand mythology and David discusses "what is truth anyways?" We have a new introduction to our show that we recorded near the end of season 1. Why David studies Norse Mythology: Blog: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/11/30/norse-mythology-stoic-philosophy-and-exploring-the-shadow/ Podcast Episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7FypaJ36D6w3JCUaSAPuKs Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. You can donate to help support the podcast using PayPal or Venmo: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week David is sharing his thoughts on the psychological significance of divination, using the I Ching, the ancient Chinese “book of changes,” as an example. I discuss the chapter written by Carl Jung on his interpretation of what is happening when someone does divination. I connect this back to what might be learned about the process of divination using Nordic Runes, by examining the process of the I Ching. I also give an example of myself divining the future of our Podcast and write jokes for Shawn since it gets lonely doing a solo podcast. See the associated blog post here: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/06/04/divination-and-the-i-ching/ Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Sources: I Ching by Wilhelm: https://amzn.to/3zsdo8s Jung’s forward to I Ching: https://www.iging.com/intro/foreword.htm Books on Runes:  Taking Up The Runes by Diana Paxson: https://amzn.to/34rqkyw Runes for Beginners by Lisa Chamberlain: https://amzn.to/3Ha8tuK The Walled Garden episode on I Ching: https://thewalledgarden.com/post/paul-obrien-divination-the-i-ching Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 21 is our first guest interview. Our good friend Chuck Sebian-Lander is a poet, Master of Fine Arts, and published poetry translator. He helps us understand how poetry and the English language works. What decisions have to be made when translating poetry across languages, cultures, and The Ages? We spend a little time going deep on understanding, from Chuck’s perspective, what decisions Jackson Crawford had to make when creating a modern update of Poetic Edda. David publicly apologizes to Jackson Crawford for being overly critical of his translation. We discuss Beowulf, Shakespeare, and how high school English class could be a lot more engaging with better translations.  You can let Chuck know how much you appreciated his insights on Twitter @KybardCSL or enjoy his funny, entertaining, and insightful videos on YouTube. Latest Video: https://youtube.com/channel/UCiJQ2igBG5W-t8GleuVNAvQ Bryan David Gilbert Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG3Mqrkb4GI Chuck’s Turkish Poetry translation: http://circumferencemag.org/?p=2443 Another Poem by Chuck: https://www.cathexisnorthwestpress.com/post/pro-creation Other Sources Mentioned:  Poetic Edda by Jackson Crawford: https://amzn.to/3JqmsfF A book David found: “The Troll Inside You.” https://amzn.to/3lOOhF0 Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week it is David's turn to do a short solo episode. I am reading a blog post I wrote on the topic of Fate versus Free Will, as it relates to the poem Grimnismal. I connect ideas of Stoic and other Philosophy to the existential questions of how do we choose to act, when fate may appear to be predetermined? What does it mean to love your fate (Amor Fati)? Between Two Ravens Blog: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/05/13/on-fate-grimnismal-and-amor-fati/ We are going to be trying some new episode formats in the next few weeks and then returning with Season 2 in July! Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Please consider a donation to help support the podcast: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week is part 2 of our episode on the Poetic Edda poem, Grímnismál . This week we discuss stanzas 21-54 of the poem, and how often Odin seems to take a brake in delivering his cosmic lore in order to ask the Valkyries and other gods for a little help (or a drink). Odin eventually reveals who he is and delivers the list of names he has been called. Do we all want to be remembered by all of our own names? If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free. https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ We are going to be trying some new episode formats in the next few weeks and then returning with Season 2 in July! Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Sources:  Read a version of Grimnismal online: https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe06.htm And a version with Old Norse: http://www.voluspa.org/grimnismal.htm  Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7 A guide to Gods, Heroes, Rituals and Belief by John Lindow: https://amzn.to/3uHTiF4 Poetic Edda by Jackson Crawford: https://amzn.to/3JqmsfF Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Shawn discusses the Prologue of "The Prose Edda", and supposed historical family line of Odin, and their similarities with the fiction stories, "The Saga of the Volsungs", "The Saga of Ragnar Lodbrok", but more interestingly, its similarities with the "Anglo-Saxon Chronicle" which is primarily a historical work. In looking at these family lineages, Shawn discusses his fascination with the questions of "When does Myth become Legend? And when does Legend become Reality/History?" Also, what drives a person to want to log their own family histories to the point where they start making parts of it up? Shawn also briefly compares dark age writers, like Snorri Sturluson, to modern day ancestry.com enthusiasts and how maybe we as humans feel an internal need to connect to their own pasts and histories. If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free. https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Sources: The Prose Edda - Penguin Classics The Saga of the Volsungs - Jackson Crawford The Anglo- Saxon Chronicle Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week is part 1 of our episode on the Poetic Edda poem, Grímnismál . This week we discuss the prologue, featuring two princes, Agnar and Geirroth. Agnar gains the favor of the goddess Frigg and Geirroth is favored by Frigg's husband Odin. Odin is up to his usual shenanigans and this time it catches up to him. We discuss the similarities with other world mythologies and Shawn brings in some history about the succession of kings. The poetic portion of Grimnismal features Odin revealing his disguise as old man Grimnir. He reveals his wealth of knowledge about the many realms and halls of the Gods, making this an important source for lore needed to #KnowYourKennings. Next episode we will pick up with Stanza 21 and complete the dramatic conclusion of the poem Grimnismal. If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free. https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Sources:  Read a version of Grimnismal online: https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe06.htm And a version with Old Norse: http://www.voluspa.org/grimnismal.htm  Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7 Poetic Edda by Jackson Crawford: https://amzn.to/3JqmsfF Children of Ash and Elm. History Primer. https://amzn.to/3FiS6uL Moore - King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: https://amzn.to/3y1ofFD Support the show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Episode 16 we discuss Thor's journey to Geirrod's Court. Thor once again bailing Loki out of situations where Loki's mouth starts something he can't finish. Shawn and David explore the symbols present in the myth and introduce Thor's half-brother Vidar. We compare Snori Sturluson's Prose Edda version of the myth to the Skaldic Poem Thorsdrapa by Eilífr Gudrúnarson, which is known for it's "creative kennings and labyrinthine complexity." David gives some more psychology depth on how to develop the primary archetypes in the psyche and how they relate to Thor's development through his hero's journey. David also asks randomly about Shawn's workout schedule. If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free. https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Sources: Prose Edda - Skaldskaparmal. Read free online (see chapter XVIII for Thorsdrapa): https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre05.htm Prose Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Moore - King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: https://amzn.to/3y1ofFD Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we discuss the poem, Alvíssmál, which is a story of how an ugly dwarf named Alviss enters Thor's hall to make the claim that Thor's daughter had agreed to marry him. Thor thinks the dwarf is ugly and not worthy of the match to a goddess. Needless to say the whole ordeal didn't go well for Alviss. Shawn and David also completely forget to discuss how the poem obviously influenced J.R.R. Tolkien write a certain scene from "The Hobbit" because they were too excited to talk about the potential pagan roots of Easter along with the newly released "Thor: Love and Thunder" teaser trailer. If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free.https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Podcast Website: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1901373 Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.Books Mentioned:Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7Poetic Edda by Jackson Crawford: https://amzn.to/3JqmsfFSupport the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast) Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast) Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we discuss the story of how Thor gets his hammer stolen and how the Aesir's plan to retrieve it results in Thor marrying the giant, Thrym. As told in the Poetic Edda poem, Thrymskviða. A poem which reads like a comedy and features many of the Aesir, primarily Thor, Loki, Freya, Heimdall, with Odin weirdly being absent. Shawn and David discuss the similarities of Thor sacrificing who he is (the stereotypical "man" who wouldn't be reduced to wearing a dress) to Odin Sacrificing destroying himself via hanging to learn the runes. We also further discuss Thor's binge eating/drinking, Freya, the goddess, Var.  If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free. https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Books Mentioned: Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7 Poetic Edda by Jackson Crawford: https://amzn.to/3JqmsfF Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Season 1 Episode 13, we present the story of Thor the Fisherman. It is one of the few myths well represented in both Prose Edda (Gylfaginning chapter 48) and in the Poetic Edda - Hymiskviða. There is a lot of interesting nuance to the differences between these versions and the poem is packed with kennings.  We discuss our personal theories on the mythology and psychology of this story, and gain some more understanding of the Norse Mythological figures Aegir, Njord, Tjalfi, Tyr, and Loki. Outro - Die Forelle by Franz Schubert  If you are enjoying the show, please consider a donation to help keep the podcast ad-free. https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Books mentioned: Prose Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda - Gylfaginning (Free translation; Chapter XLVIII): https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre04.htm Poetic Edda by Carolyne Larrington (Oxford World Classics; David’s preferred translation): https://amzn.to/3sxITc7 Poetic Edda by Jackson Crawford: https://amzn.to/3JqmsfF  Norse Mythology – A guide to Gods, Heros, Rituals and Belief by John Lindow: https://amzn.to/3uHTiF4 Joseph Campbell - Hero with a Thousand Faces: https://amzn.to/3vMEGEB Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Season 1 Episode 12, we finish presenting the story of Thor’s Adventure with Utgarda-Loki. We analyze what the story means about Thor and talk more about the archetype of the trickster god. David explains Freudian defense mechanisms and how once you understand them, you see them everywhere. Bonus: Shawn and David do voice acting and we discuss the Rooster’s of the Apocalypse. Fact Checking: As far as we know, Tjalfi is a human. His father is the husbandman of the farm Thor visits. If he is in fact Tjalfi’s real father… Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Books mentioned: Prose Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda - Gylfaginning (Free translation; we start at Chapter XLIV): https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre04.htm  Norse Mythology – A guide to Gods, Heros, Rituals and Belief by John Lindow: https://amzn.to/3uHTiF4 Joseph Campbell - Hero with a Thousand Faces: https://amzn.to/3vMEGEB If you would like to support the podcast, you can donate directly using PayPal or Venmo: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Season 1 Episode 11, Shawn and David continue with the Adventures of Thor. Shawn explains what shows are hot on Netflix; David explains Dank Memes.  We introduce Loki, the trickster god, and follow Thor on his mission to smash all the giants. David talks about the idea of being possessed by an archetype and what is the “Hero Archetype”? Water Jar Boy makes a return. Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TwoRavenPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/ Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation. Check out the blog for more of David’s thoughts on Archetypes: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com Books mentioned: Prose Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvzn Prose Edda - Gylfaginning (Free translation; we start at Chapter XLIV): https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre04.htm Joseph Campbell - Hero with a Thousand Faces: https://amzn.to/3vMEGEB Neil Gaiman - Norse Mythology: https://amzn.to/3if50zk If you would like to support the podcast, you can donate directly using PayPal or Venmo: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/ Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Season 1 Episode 10, Shawn and David discuss the myth of Thor's battle with the strongest of all giants, Hrungnir. Is it all a secret plot by Odin to teach his son Thor a lesson?David discusses potential meanings of Hrungnir's 3 pointed heart and talks more about Archetypes and the hero's journey. Bonus myth at the end of the episode!Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.Books mentioned: Prose Edda (Penguin Classics): https://amzn.to/3inCvznProse Edda - Skaldskaparmal (Free translation; see Chapter XVII): https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre05.htmJoseph Campbell - Hero with a Thousand Faces: https://amzn.to/3vMEGEBNeil Gaiman - Norse Mythology: https://amzn.to/3if50zkMan and His Symbols by Carl Jung: https://amzn.to/3vx59WOAsatru for Beginners by Mathias Nordvig: https://amzn.to/3JKjliWOther books we have discussed: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/02/11/reading-list/If you would like to support the podcast, you can donate directly using PayPal or Venmo: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast) 

In Season 1 Episode 9 Shawn and David take a deeper dive into the runes. How would a person go about learning the runes? What it means to say runes have "power"?Runes Part 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ZnolNzsHpG29e1m6iJQLI?si=nyyoaP0JRxW62xTWz4mPCQPodcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.David's recommended reading about the runes:Diana Paxson - Taking Up the Runes: https://amzn.to/34rqkywEdred Thorsson - Futhark: https://amzn.to/3hW8w1BKatie Gerrard - Odin's Gateway: https://amzn.to/3hYkkjLA couple other psychology books David mentioned:Gottman - Raising an Emotionally Intelligent Children: https://amzn.to/3tLw0vLNeufeld & Mate - Hold on to your Kids: https://amzn.to/3CvTkS6Other books we have discussed: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/02/11/reading-list/Check out the WordPress blog to see when David posts an article about the runes. He just finished the 3 part series on Shamanism.If you would like to support the podcast, you can donate directly using PayPal or Venmo: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast)\

In Season 1 Episode 8 Shawn and David perform a rendition of Hárbarðsljóð, The Lay of Harbard, Thor and the Ferryman.Shawn explains what a flyting is, David makes connections to rap battles, Monty Python, and schoolyard disses. Is Harbard Odin? Is Odin a bully? Does Thor need to work on his Game?Podcast Website: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentworavens/Between Two Ravens is a podcast about the psychological significance of Norse Mythology. Shawn is an amateur Norse Mythology expert. David is not a Jungian Analyst, but he reads a lot of books about Carl Jung's theories on the collective unconscious and individuation.Man and His Symbols by Carl Jung: https://amzn.to/3vx59WOAsatru for Beginners by Mathias Nordvig: https://amzn.to/3JKjliWOther books we have discussed: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/2022/02/11/reading-list/If you would like to support the podcast, you can donate directly using PayPal or Venmo: https://tworavenpodcast.wordpress.com/donation/Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/tworavenpodcast)