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Isabelle Truman & Grace O'Neill
After Work Drinks is a (pop)cultural commentary podcast hosted by freelance journalists and former magazine editors Isabelle Truman and Grace O'Neill.  Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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You Can Find Him In A Basement

You Can Find Him In A Basement

Hello gorgeous’! We're back with our first official episode of the new year, and there's a lot on the slate to discuss. Including: How the Sopranos holds up in 2021, a podcast that has us re-examining our creepy cultural obsession with 'Lolita', and whether 'Bridgerton' the horny Shonda Rhimes period drama, is worth all the hype. Then, we're only a few days into the New Year, but DeuxMoi has already blessed us with many tidbits of celeb news—we try to decipher their clues about who Zoë Kravitz left her hot husband for (allegedly allegedly etc.), whether or not Ana de Armas got a breakup fringe, and the three letters that suggest Florence Pugh quaran-married Zach Braff (say it isn't so). We take a quick moment to update you on the latest Hilaria Baldwin drama, then it's a deep dive on @ShitModelMgmt and @DietPrada's social media takedown of Alexander Wang. Rate, review, and subscribe, and we'll see you on Sunday.Recommendations:The Sopranos'Lolita' PodcastWe Keep The Dead Close by Becky CooperToday in Focus podcast: Why do some people find it harder than others to lose weight?Lingerie recs from you listeners:Videris LingerieBabes ClubPansyRose & BareBimby & RoyThe Nude LabelLe Petit TrouNicoBotanica WorkshopSaturday The LabelBeijaFruity Booty underwear Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:13:0605/01/2021
A Very Ultra Summer With... Charlee Fraser

A Very Ultra Summer With... Charlee Fraser

Hello angels, and a happy new year! This week we’re talking to actual ray of sunshine Charlee Fraser—one of the most successful models to come out of Australia in the last decade. Charlee was scouted within a year of finishing high school, and quickly became a darling of the world of high fashion, walking for (among others) Chanel, Prada, Versace, Valentino and Dior. Plus, she was something of a muse for Phoebe Philo, wearing era-defining looks in Philo's final collections for Celine, and has appeared on the cover of Harper’s BAZAAR and multiple international editions of Vogue. Charlee is also a proud Awabakal woman, and is using her considerable influence to encourage Indigenous representation in all facets of the Australian fashion industry. She has recently become the ambassador for First Nation Fashion + Design, an initiative that offers skill development and access to industry contacts for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander designers, textile artists, jewellery designs, photographers, hair and makeup artists, stylists and models. When we spoke to Charlee, she had just returned from two weeks On Country, an experience she says changed her life.We talk to Charlee about the strange contradiction that so many models suffer from self-esteem (and how to battle your inner saboteur during castings); how the power dynamics have shifted behind the scenes since #MeToo; being a central part of some of the most iconic collections in recent fashion history; and how to achieve real inclusivity in Australian fashion. We hope you loved listening, and if so, please rate, review and subscribe. This episode is bought to you by our friends at Ultra Violette, who has partnered with After Work Drinks for the whole summer. Enter the code AWD10 at the checkout to receive 10% off your next order (excludes limited edition sets, can be used once, and not in conjunction with other offers). Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
43:3402/01/2021
How Do You Say Cucumber In English?

How Do You Say Cucumber In English?

Hello! This week Izzy has a boatload of recommendations, including but not limited to: Why Eyes Wide Shut is the best Christmas movie; Oscar Pistorius and crazy prison wives; and why Netflix's Jack The Ripper documentary is actually a feminist text. Then it's onto the viral ELLE profile on Martin Shkreli's chaotic girlfriend, Hilaria Baldwin's embarrassing double life as a fake Spaniard, and how Shia Labeouf's DV allegations are hindering Vanessa Kirby's Oscars chances (cue: eternal conversations about art vs. the artist). Then it's onto The Cut's investigation about how JK Rowling descended from woke Twitter queen to Head TERF.As always, rate, review, and subscribe, and we'll see you Saturday.Recommendations:Eyes Wide Shut (1999)The Trials of Oscar Pistorius (2020)The Ripper (2020)The Executioner's Song by Norman MailerThe Journalist And The Pharma Bro by Stephanie Clifford for ELLEhttps://www.elle.com/life-love/a35021224/martin-shkreli-christie-smythe-pharma-bro-journalist/Who Did JK Rowling Become? by Molly Fischer in The Cuthttps://www.thecut.com/article/who-did-j-k-rowling-become.html Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:12:0429/12/2020
A Very Ultra Summer With... Abbie Chatfield

A Very Ultra Summer With... Abbie Chatfield

This week we're talking to Abbie Chatfield, the most iconic human to come out of the 'The Bachelor' Australia universe, who single-handedly took on the series' weird, conservative attitude toward sex and (as far we see it) won. We talk to Abbie about dating post-reality TV; the mental health tolls constant internet abuse takes on a person; the way reality TV sanctifies insecure women; the 'wifey' archetype; how insane it is that, as an Australian size 8, she is heralded as the face of body positivity in Australian media, and how Ex Boyfriend That I Love became Ex Boyfriend That I Despise. As Abbie would say, it's a lot.Listen to It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield here.This episode is bought to you by our friends at Ultra Violette, who has partnered with After Work Drinks for the whole summer. Enter the code AWD10 at the checkout to receive 10% off your next order (excludes limited edition sets, can be used once, and not in conjunction with other offers). Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
58:1825/12/2020
A Very Ultra Summer With... Sophia Roe

A Very Ultra Summer With... Sophia Roe

This episode we’re chatting to the inimitable Sophia Roe. Sophia is a chef and wellness advocate whose entire career is built on the basis that food is inherently political. Her new Vice series, Counter Space, looks at the world’s most pressing political issues through the lens of food, from the innovation of 3D meat in Spain, to how Mexico is tackling deadly diseases by banning overproduced food, and the way political dissent in Hong Kong is directly tied to street food culture. Sophia is infectiously obsessed with food, equality, and racial justice—and has amassed a cool 270,000 Instagram followers with her informative daily Instagram Lives, covering everything from code-switching to spiritual bypassing, and redlining. In May Gigi Hadid had Sophia on her Instagram channel to discuss racial justice, and she has been an endless source of education and inspiration to us both this year. Listen now, and fall in love.You can follow Sophia on Instagram here, and watch 'Counter Space' here.Sophia’s book recommendation:Working By Studs TerkelAfter The Rain By Alexandra ElleThis episode is bought to you by our friends at Ultra Violette, who has partnered with After Work Drinks for the whole summer. Enter the code AWD10 at the checkout to receive 10% off your next order (excludes limited edition sets, can be used once, and not in conjunction with other offers). Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
53:1819/12/2020
That Time Of The Month: Period Sex, Vagina Shame, STIs And Everything You Don’t Want To Ask Your Mum About

That Time Of The Month: Period Sex, Vagina Shame, STIs And Everything You Don’t Want To Ask Your Mum About

Hi everyone and welcome back to That Time of the Month. This is our last episode in our three-part series, so we wanted to get down to the nitty-gritty and speak about everything from period sex to the shame surrounding STIs (when they’re so common that 1 in 2 people under the age of 25 who are sexually active would’ve had one), to vagina shame and vulva disparity. 75 per cent of women think that having a labia minora that protrudes beyond the labia majora is abnormal when, in actual fact, 50 per cent of women have vaginas that look that way. Is porn solely to blame for this way of thinking? Are men? Are we? Then it's over to Hannah Crerar. Hannah’s career started as a lawyer, then she moved into studying psychology and is now pioneering a path in what she calls ‘soul psychology’, which blends modern psychological principles with spiritual practices like meditation, astrology and human design. We talk to Hannah about the importance of building a strong relationship between your mind and body, how the moon impacts your cycle, how to break down the shame we as womxn have been so conditioned to feel, and - naturally - whether some star signs just shouldn't date.  For this series, we’ve partnered with Me., the new period care brand that has been designed to be displayed proudly and openly on your shelf—not hidden away. Me. is committed to championing a new narrative around period care through empowering campaigns, collaborations and charity partnerships, holding space for all people with periods and the issues that are important to them. Find out more here. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
52:1217/12/2020
The Battle Of The Pop Feminists

The Battle Of The Pop Feminists

Hi! This week we've got a lot on the agenda, including but not limited to: Jessica Simpson's surprisingly fascinating (and dark) life story; the new Netflix documentary charting the 2011 case that lay the foundation for the #MeToo movement; Hugh Grant revealing all the insane shit journalists used to do to him in the '90s on Fresh Air; Sienna Miller randomly talking about Jude Law again. And THEN the big stuff. After Chidera Eggerue A.K.A 'The Slumflower' accused Florence Given of copying her work to create the year-defining feminist-lite tome 'Women Don't Owe You Pretty', feminist Instagram exploded. We try to make sense of the many different strands to this conversation, which continues to unfold this week. Then, FKA Twigs' not-so-shocking allegations of domestic abuse, emotional manipulation and sexual battery against ex Shia LaBeouf has given much-needed attention to the rising rates of domestic violence during Covid-19. We discuss the intricacies and nuances of domestic violence relationships with the manager of an Australian shelter, including how to get help if you (or a friend) needs it.As always, rate, review and subscribe. We love you.xxxx Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:10:3616/12/2020
Age Of Light Martini Night

Age Of Light Martini Night

Hello our favourite people in the world and welcome to a brand spanking new episode of AWD. What's on the slate this week? The Michaela Coel x Louis Theroux crossover we didn't know we needed, why we've all misunderstood Courtney Love, and the troubling blind spot in the HBO hit series 'The Undoing'. Then it's on to Lonely Lingerie—once the world's favourite indie intimates label, now embroiled in a QAnon scandal that threatens the entire company. Alongside the fall of Philip Green's Topshop, it's more evidence that in 2020, brand founders will always be held to account for their personal values. Then it's onto 'Happiest Season', the first gay Christmas romantic comedy, starring Kristen Stewart. It isn't perfect, but does it have to be? With Ryan Murphy's 'The Prom' set to hit Netflix on Friday, we discuss the backlash around James Corden's 'offensive' perfomance, which has ignited a new debate around 'Gayface', and whether or not straight actors should play queer roles. Happy listening, and we'll see you next week ❤️.Recommendations:Michaela Coel on Grounded With Louis TherouxThe Undoing (HBO)The Dangerous Blind Spot of 'The Undoing' by Eve Gerber in The Atlantichttps://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/12/the-undoing-elenas-murder-domestic-violence-failed/617283/You're Wrong About: Courtney Love (Podcast)The Lonely descent into QAnon by David Farrier and Zoe Walker Ahwa for Ensemblehttps://www.ensemblemagazine.co.nz/articles/lonelyHappiest Season by Clea Duvall (2020)'Happiest Season' Is A Queer Fantasy—And Almost The One I Need Right Now by Makayla Philips for ELLEhttps://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a34827483/happiest-season-kristen-stewart-review/James Corden Should Have Been Banned From 'The Prom' by Richard Lawson in Vanity Fairhttps://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/12/the-prom-movie-review-james-corden Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
57:2908/12/2020
That Time Of The Month: How To Harness Your Cycle For Productivity

That Time Of The Month: How To Harness Your Cycle For Productivity

Hello angels and welcome back to the second installment of That Time of the Month, a biweekly three-part series all about womxn's health. A few weeks ago, we asked you some questions about your relationship to your bodies, periods, the pill and your cycle, and this week we're discussing your answers. We also touch on PMS shame and the new movement to make workplaces cater to our hormonal cycles. Already countries such as Japan, Taiwan and Indonesia recognise menstrual leave, so why isn't it being talked about - or pushed for - more? Then it's over to an expert. We enlisted registered dietitian Sara Widdowson, who, after working with women for years at a fertility and gynecology clinic, launched her own platform, Your Monthly, in 2017 to take the conversations she was having with women one-on-one in a clinic space to a wider audience to help educated women everywhere about not just nutrition but their overall health. After our chat last week, we got Sara to explain our hormones in more detail - and much better than we did, exactly how you can harness your cycle for productivity, post-pill acne and hormonal acne and combatting period shame. Enjoy! And take notes! For this series, we’ve partnered with Me., the new period care brand that has been designed to be displayed proudly and openly on your shelf—not hidden away. Me. is committed to championing a new narrative around period care through empowering campaigns, collaborations and charity partnerships, holding space for all people with periods and the issues that are important to them. Find out more here. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:02:3504/12/2020
I Love A Good Vibe

I Love A Good Vibe

Hello angels. We're back and better than ever, discussing super-recent recommendations like Dawson's Creek, which Grace has finally started watching. Naturally, this is cause to revisit the Katie Holmes/Tom Cruise saga of '06, which remains the most chaotic whirlwind romance in Hollywood history. We're also talking about Meghan Markle's New York Times op-ed - aside from bringing to light more awareness about miscarriage, it's proof that Meg has an uncanny ability to intuit the moment culturally. So why are the royals wasting her? Then, Halima Aden - the first hijab-wearing supermodel - is quitting fashion, saying the industry caused her to compromise her beliefs, and we investigate the trap of being 'first'. Dakota Johnson and Cara Delevingne are both launching sex toy companies, but are suspiciously coy about using their own products. Then it's on to a column by Dolly Alderton arguing that women should focus on having 'character', rather than being beautiful. Easier said than done?As always, please rate, review and subscribe.Recommendations:Going Clear by Alex Gibney (2015)My Scientology Movie by Louis Theroux (2016)Cute tableware - Thekla https://www.thekladesign.com/Interior accounts: @shoptrinketstore, @scenebychloe, @scout_goods, @ellajanevintage, @tamatamastore, @finnavintage, @rosemaryandpeachshop, @sourcedatsixtysix, @inreverievintageDolly Alderton column: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dear-dolly-i-am-19-years-old-and-have-no-confidence-when-it-comes-to-my-appearance-9l726hwpk Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
58:2301/12/2020
We've Become Princess Diana Conspiracy Theorists

We've Become Princess Diana Conspiracy Theorists

Hello muffins and welcome to a brand spanking new AWD episode. This week, we pay a quick homage to 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' on its 10 year anniversary, and as Complex crowns it the album of the decade. In short: We miss the old Kanye. Listeners share their own stories of embarrassing stories of love-gone-wrong in your early 20s. Ivanka Trump's former bestie pulled a Natalie and penned a bitchy essay for Vanity Fair - but why do so many (white) women bristle against fully condemning Ivanka? Lena Dunham wrote an essay for Harper's about her struggles with IVF - leading to a rambling discussion from us about the inescapable questions that surround motherhood, work and fertility, and how new technology often leads to more shame and self-hatred for women. Then, it's onto the only topic we ever want to talk about: Princess Diana. The BBC have opened an investigation into whether or not her 1995 Panorama interview was obtained unethically - while a new five-part series 'You're Wrong About' investigates the myths and legends surrounding Princess Di's death. A documentary directed by Lily Allen's Dad (randomly) has turned us into conspiracy theorists - so what's the truth? And why can't we stop talking about it, 20+ years later? As always, rate, review and subscribe - and we'll see you Saturday. ❤️Disclaimer: Izzy doesn't really think the royals killed Princess Diana. Please don't @ her.Resources:Ivanka Trump Was My Best Friend, Now She's MAGA Royalty by Lysandra Ohrstrom in Vanity Fairhttps://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/ivanka-trump-was-my-best-friend-now-shes-maga-royaltyFalse Labour by Lena Dunham in Harper's https://harpers.org/archive/2020/12/false-labor-lena-dunham-fertility/Diana: The Truth Behind The Interview on Channel 4Diana: In Her Own Words on NetflixYou're Wrong About podcast: Diana episodes 1-5The Diana Chronicles by Tina BrownUnlawful Killing on YouTube (lol Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:10:4124/11/2020
That Time Of The Month: WTF Even Are Hormones? And How Do They Affect Your Mental Health

That Time Of The Month: WTF Even Are Hormones? And How Do They Affect Your Mental Health

Hello, lovely angels! This week we’re bringing you the first of a three-part series all about womxn’s health. For episode one, we’re starting at the beginning: periods. We talk about where we were when we first got our period, how the lack of education and information for young women during that time is damaging and why Grace used to wear pads to school for no reason. Then, class is in session for a chat about hormones and their impact on our mental health. Women are twice as likely to suffer from depression than men, a statistic that confirms the link between female hormones and mental health. So why aren’t we talking about it? We discuss how our hormones impact our day-to-day lives, including when it comes to anxiety, depression and stress levels without us even knowing. Plus, what exactly even is PMS? And how do you know if what you’re feeling is normal? Finally, we speak to Olympic athlete Eliza McCartney about using your menstrual cycle to excel physically, why it is that so many young women drop sport when they hit puberty, and why when she was younger she wanted to avoid getting abs.For this series, we’ve partnered with Me., the new period care brand that has been designed to be displayed proudly and openly on your shelf—not hidden away. Me. is committed to championing a new narrative around period care through empowering campaigns, collaborations and charity partnerships, holding space for all people with periods and the issues that are important to them.Find out more here.You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. Get in touch with us at [email protected] If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
52:3521/11/2020
Is Harry Styles Wearing A Dress Really Groundbreaking?

Is Harry Styles Wearing A Dress Really Groundbreaking?

Hello y'all (sorry). We're back and better than ever in our humble tipsy opinion, covering every topic you want to hear about: Porn; Harry Styles wearing a Gucci dress, and Princess Diana. Grace's new podcast recommendation sparks a 20-minute conversation about the ethics of the porn industry. Is it feminist? And does it have to be? Plus, why - when we know so many people watch porn, do we so rarely discuss it in day-to-day life? Then it's onto Harry Styles, who mildly broke the internet with his Gucci dress on the cover of Vogue. We analyse the legacy of dress-wearing men, and investigate accusations that Harry is a straight man masquerading as a queer icon for clout (and pussy). And then it's onto The Crown season four, and its portrayal of Princess Diana - how do we make sense of her legacy, 24 years on?As always, rate review and subscribe. We love you!Recommendations:The Last Days Of August by Jon RonsonThe Crown Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:08:4517/11/2020
Becoming (Super) Famous In Quarantine With Benee

Becoming (Super) Famous In Quarantine With Benee

Hello favourites, this week we are so excited to bring you our interview with BENEE, the New Zealand music sensation being called 'the next Lorde'. Earlier this year, BENEE's song 'Supalonely' became the TikTok anthem of lockdown, racking up a casual 500 million downloads on Spotify, and earning BENEE nods from the likes of Elton John, and slots on The Ellen Show and Jimmy Kimmel. Now, BENEE is releasing her first studio album, Hey u x, which features collaborations with Grimes and Lily Allen (casual). Hey u x is already getting glowing reviews by the likes of NME, and is out NOW, so download immediately. We talk to BENEE about why so many talented musicians come out of New Zealand, what it's like to go viral during lockdown, and why fame doesn't really interest her.You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. As always, please rate, review and subscribe - and we'll see you again on Wednesday. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
29:2613/11/2020
Let's Never Talk About The Orange Bitch Again

Let's Never Talk About The Orange Bitch Again

Hello everybody and welcome to the new world order. We recorded this episode the morning after Donald Trump lost the election, and a have a good long chat about politics fatigue, why it's worth celebrating the end of the Trump era, even if you don't like Biden, and why we need to stop calling Trump's 70 million supporters 'stupid'. Then it's onto the equally chaotic US Bachelorette - and how Clare Crawley blew up the whole series for a man named Dale. And, honestly... same. We do a deep dive on Camille Charriere's essay for Harper's BAZAAR on falling in love in your 30s - especially appreciating how honest she was about how batsh*t crazy 20-something girls act when they're in love. We talk about the many ways relationships are better (and easier) when you have more world experience, then shoot the shit on love languages. As always, rate, review and subscribe - and we'll see you again on Wednesday. Recommendations:- Stephanie Winston Wolkoff on the 'Femsplainers' podcast- Why Trump Can't Afford To Lose by Jane Mayer in The New Yorkerhttps://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/11/09/why-trump-cant-afford-to-lose- 'The Key To Trump's Appeal' on Making Sense With Sam Harris Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:00:4510/11/2020
What Will It Take For #MeToo To Happen In Australia? With Bri Lee

What Will It Take For #MeToo To Happen In Australia? With Bri Lee

Hello muffins. This week we are so excited to bring you our conversation with Bri Lee, author of 2018’s award-winning smash hit book Eggshell Skull. Eggshell Skull documented Bri’s two-year long legal battle to get justice for an assault she experienced as a girl, and explains the many flaws in the Australian legal system, and how they stop victims from seeking justice. Bri, a trained lawyer, has also been an outspoken advocate for changing Australia’s strict defamation laws, arguing that they are holding our country back from a much-needed #MeToo reckoning. We talk to Bri about rape myths, the Geoffrey Rush and Dyson Hayden cases, about body image and the Australian fashion industry, and about an unspoken narrative that should have surrounded Amy Winehouse. If you loved this episode please share it with your friends, or rate, review and subscribe.Warning: This episode discusses sexual harassment, victim blaming and rape culture, and may not be suitable for all listeners.You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
52:5806/11/2020
The Lost Girls

The Lost Girls

In true AWD fashion, this is quite the chaotic episode, which starts with us being emo about lockdown and the incredibly stressful time it’s been, to a quit pivot to the recent COVID-Kardashian antics. We talk about the rumour that Katy Perry is Jonbenet Ramsay, the letter Grace sent Orlando Bloom, the letter Izzy send Hedley Thomas, Em Rata’s pregnancy announcement and Chrissy Teigen’s heartbreaking letter about pregnancy loss. Before it’s over to ADHD. Our talented friend Noelle wrote a viral piece for The Guardian this week detailing her ADHD diagnosis in her 30s, after years of trying to figure out why she couldn’t live like other humans do. Noelle writes about how ADHD masks itself in women and calls those who suffer from the same symptoms ‘the lost girls.’ We were lucky enough to get her on the pod to discuss how her condition was missed for so long, what the traits are that other women should look out for, and how her life has changed since her diagnosis. Read Noelle’s piece here: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/nov/02/the-lost-girls-chaotic-and-curious-women-with-adhd-all-have-missed-red-flags-that-haunt-usYou can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:11:5503/11/2020
A Misplaced Sext

A Misplaced Sext

Today we discuss the far-from-over Lily James scandal, including new rumours (from someone suspiciously 'close to' Armie Hammer's ex-wife) claiming that she and Hammer had an affair on the set of 'Rebecca'. Is it fair that Lily James is becoming the public's new favourite punching bag? How responsible are women who date married men? Plus, why Phil Collins' ex-wife is staging a literal coup of his Los Angeles mansion; why Sofia Coppola's new movie 'On The Rocks' kinda sucks, and dissecting the complicated legacy of Man Repeller, which announced its closure this week. Then, for those few who are interested, Grace and Zach do a short deep-dive ahead of the US election next Tuesday, and attempt to answer the question on everybody's minds: Will Donald be re-elected?You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:06:5527/10/2020
How To Make Magazines Work In 2020, According To gal-dem's Liv Little

How To Make Magazines Work In 2020, According To gal-dem's Liv Little

Hello gorgeous listeners. We’re very excited for this week’s episode with the truly brilliant Liv Little. Liv is the creator and former editor of gal-dem, a magazine created exclusively by women and nonbinary people of colour. gal-dem is a rare print magazine success story, building a cult audience while simultaneously helping to change up the UK’s wildly white media landscape (94% of British journalists are white). Liv, who launched the mag when she was only 21, has been listed as one of the BBC’s 100 most influential women in media, as well as a Forbes’ 30 under 30. As she announces a major career pivot (she announced she’s stepping down as editor and CEO in September) we talk to Liv about the future of print media, how to balance being ‘nice’ with being a boss, and how to be a CEO in your early 20s. Happy listening ❤️ Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
24:4323/10/2020
A Royal Fuckboy

A Royal Fuckboy

After we left you all last week, the wild Dominic West drama unfolded in truly unexpected ways, including a random paparazzi shoot that literally no one asked for and more people spilling the tea on his time with Lily James in Rome. Then, a story that almost tops the listener who drove 11.5 hours for a quarantine bous; a ghosting template everyone can use after a date; Grace’s worst Tinder story, and whether using thirst traps for political causes is effective. Plus, friend of the pod Chloe Swarbrick's historic electoral win in New Zealand, actual teenager Billie Eilish being body shamed and Audrey Gelman’s long-awaited, slightly embarrassing The Wing apology. You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Recommendations: The Trial of the Chicago 7 (Netflix)Just Mercy Rocks (Netflix)Female Chauvinist Pigs: Women and the Rise of Raunch Culture by Ariel Levy  Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
58:4320/10/2020
The Case For A Hook Up Sabbatical With Flex Mami

The Case For A Hook Up Sabbatical With Flex Mami

This week we’re so excited to be speaking to the wonderful Flex Mami. Flex is a self-described multidisciplinary millennial in media: A DJ, an MTV presenter, a podcast host, a business owner of a critical thinking card game called Reflex, the owner of an e-commerce site called Flex Factory, a DIY queen, and an author to be. Plus, she’s one of our favourite Australians on the internet. We speak to Flex about critical thinking, dealing with unsolicited opinions and the depths of internet hell, how 50 per cent of conflict is actually your fault, pussy masks, hook up sabbaticals, being a Fairy Nut Mother, manifestation and the one ‘Am I the Asshole?’ Reddit question that lives rent free in her mind. Follow Flex on Instagram here. This episode is brought to you by Good Pair Days, Australia’s number one wine subscription service. Enter the code 'AFTERWORK' at the checkout for a free bottle of wine worth $38 in your first box.You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
56:2216/10/2020
How Far Would You Drive For A Bous?

How Far Would You Drive For A Bous?

Hello our favourite humans on planet earth and welcome to another episode. This week, Izzy's fleeing from fighting Karens on the tube, Grace is continuing to set fire to things, and we reminisce about an iconic man named Adam. Then, it's onto mindless celebrity gossip: Why is Kourtney Kardashian pulling a T-Swift/Tom Hiddleston with 20-year-old TikTok star Addison Rae? Who is the iconic celebrity hanger-on called Shiraz, and why is he facilitating D-list celebrity gossip during the pandemic? Who is Harry Jowsey again? Then it's onto some actual gossip: Lily James was spotted pashing actually-married man Dominic West. We discuss the legacy of the 'other woman' trope in Hollywood (career-ruining?) and how internalised misogyny is playing out in James' comments section, before arguing about whether or not Dominic West is hot (he is). Then it's onto romance: We're six months into the pandemic, how has it effected the way we date? Izzy gives us a firsthand account of the basic problem at the heart of online dating: Anyone who looks good on Tinder, probably sucks in real life. Speaking of Tinder, Four Corners just released a shocking report highlighting Tinder's negligence in keeping abusive men off their app. It's a hugely-disturbing must watch. THEN, onto Emily in Paris - why does everyone hate Darren Star's silly French comedy so much?You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
57:2213/10/2020
Trixie and Katya’s Guide to Modern Womanhood

Trixie and Katya’s Guide to Modern Womanhood

We are so excited about this week’s episode featuring Drag Race royalty, Trixie Mattell and Katya Zamolodchikova. As any Drag Race fans will know, Trixie and Katya appeared on the seventh season of the show and went on to create their own empire, becoming two of the biggest drag celebrities on the planet, with a combined 4.3 million followers on Instagram, a YouTube show called ‘UNHhhh’, a Viceland series, a makeup line, a podcast called The Bald and the Beautiful, and a New York Times best-selling book: 'Trixie and Katya’s Guide to Modern Womanhood'. Essentially, they’re our new AWD vision board. We talk to Trixie and Katya about starting drag ‘before it was cool’, dealing with this really intense fandom - Grace included, the Instagram Face-era, the ways that classism enters drag, making - and losing -money, dating as very famous drag queens, and commercialising your friendship.Buy 'Trixie and Katya’s Guide to Modern Womanhood' here. As always, rate, review and subscribe and if you like this episode, please share it with your friends @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast.  Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
51:3409/10/2020
Do We Need Celebrities To Be Nice?

Do We Need Celebrities To Be Nice?

Hello everyone! Welcome to the second year of AWD, which we celebrated a week late because we had a big ol’ bust up lol. So naturally, we’re talking about friendship fights, love languages when it’s not your lover and levelling up now that we know what makes each other tick. Then it’s onto @DeuxMoi - again - because there’s been some juicy bits in the DMs this week, a lot of which includes stories of celebrities being mean to fans. So do celebrities owe us nice? Plus, the Savage x Fenty show was one of the most talked-about moments from fashion month, so why didn’t the fact that Parris Goebel, a Kiwi choreographer and dancer, was behind the whole thing make front page news in NZ? Then we discuss Chrissy Teigen’s heartbreaking announcement that she and John Legend lost their baby and the backlash to the couple sharing their news so publicly. And Trump has COVID. Is it wrong to find it funny? You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
57:0806/10/2020
Is Brad Pitt Even That Hot? With Raven Smith

Is Brad Pitt Even That Hot? With Raven Smith

Hello angels. This week we’re so excited to be speaking to Raven Smith. Raven is a Vogue columnist, freelance creative director, guest lecturer at Central Saint Martin’s, and the author of the best-selling book Raven’s Smith’s Trivial Pursuits. But most importantly, he’s our favourite person on Instagram. A couple of years ago his hilarious captions started to get a cult following, including us, and now he has over 100,000 followers who hang on his every post. Pretty much everyone we’ve had on this podcast, Pandora Sykes, Jessy Barden, Florence Given, Madeleine Madden, @EveryOutfitOnSATC, all follow him too, which is pretty cute if you ask us. We speak to Raven about using humour to deal with how fucked the world is, his unique perspective on classism in the UK, Brad Pitt’s face, how fucked netball is, diet - sorry, wellness - culture, the celebrities we’ll lower our dignity to get a selfie with, and whether or not it’s discrimination when women refuse to date short men (it is). You can buy Raven’s first (best-selling!) book, Raven Smith’s Trivial Pursuits here. Follow him on Instagram here. This episode of After Work Drinks was brought to you by Dan Murphy's and their brand spanking new Seltzers range. Head here to find out more. As always, please rate, review and subscribe Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
59:2003/10/2020
The Unsimple Life

The Unsimple Life

This week, we're talking about a rumoured Harry Styles romance that we can truly get behind; the question of whether we’re all ageing right (or completely wrong); Lizzo's long-overdue Vogue cover - and the confused personal branding of post-Megxit Harry and Meghan. Then, it's onto dissecting the This Is Paris - Paris Hilton's equal parts compelling and confusing documentary/personal branding exercise. Some points made in the documentary are prescient. Hilton rightly forces the public to reframe the frankly gross perception to the release of the infamous 'sex tape'. And she shares a harrowing story of abuse from a reform school her parents sent her to as a teenager. But parts of the documentary feel... shallow. Paris wants us to see the 'real her' - but what is it? And how do we empathise with her, while still finding her lasting obsession with money and fame... uncomfortable? This episode of After Work Drinks was brought to you by Dan Murphy's and their brand spanking new Seltzers range. Head here to find out more. You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Recommendations:Emma Lewisham skin reset serum! Are you Ageing Correctly by Heather Havrilesky in The Cuthttps://www.thecut.com/2020/09/are-you-aging-correctly.html Perfect Me by Heather Widdows (as originally recommended in Trick Mirror by Jia Tolentino)Lizzo on Hope, Justice and the Election by Claudia Rankinehttps://www.vogue.com/article/lizzo-cover-october-2020This is Paris (2020) on YouTubeYouTube's 'This Is Paris' Documentary Focuses On The Wrong Subject by Dani Di Placido in Forbeshttps://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2020/09/28/youtubes-this-is-paris-documentary-focuses-on-the-wrong-subject/#587d843f1b26The Nickel Boys by Colson Whitehead Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
59:1929/09/2020
Can You Meditate Your Way To Better Orgasms? With Liz Goldwyn

Can You Meditate Your Way To Better Orgasms? With Liz Goldwyn

Hello lovely humans and welcome to another weekend edition of After Work Drinks With… This week we’re speaking to the remarkable Liz Goldwyn. Liz is a member of Hollywood royalty—her grandfather, Samuel Goldwyn, helmed the iconic MGM studio and her father, Samuel Goldwyn Jr. was one of the industry’s most celebrated independent producers. But Liz took a slightly different path from the rest of her family. She has dabbled in everything. She’s directed documentaries; contributed as a writer for Vanity Fair and The New York Times; served as the New York editor of French Vogue and lectured at UCLA. She’s also worked collaboratively as an artist with brands like MAC, has curated a documentary program for LACMA, worked as a curator at Sotheby’s, she had a stint at Planned Parenthood and is a muse to designers like Zac Posen… But the thing we most love about Liz is The Sex-Ed, the a shame-free space she launched in 2018 to explore the relationship between sex and mental and physical health. The Sex-Ed deep-dives on everything from the effects of cannabis on sexual enjoyment, to how meditation leads to better orgasms, and what us vanilla heterosexuals can learn from the kink community, while the Sex-Ed podcast, hosted by Liz, features amazing interviews with artists and creators, people like David Lynch and Natasha Lyonne. She was more than open to field our many questions about sex, like—Is watching porn anti-feminist? What if our sexual fantasies are problematic? And can you really meditate your way to better orgasms? We can’t wait for you to listen and, if you do, rate, review and subscribe on iTunes. Love you all. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
50:4225/09/2020
Is It Empowerment Or Exploitation?

Is It Empowerment Or Exploitation?

Welcome everyone to the first proper AWD episode in six (!) whole months, where we’re seated in the same room drinking from the same bottle of wine and ready to tell you all about our drunken emails to our idols and a very exciting celebrity sighting. Then it’s onto the two biggest digital events of the week: the Emmys and the A-list Zoom call featuring Brad and Jen, an incredible Shia LaBeouf and a hot Henry Goulding (who Grace may or may not have once flirted with). On Friday, the iconic feminist Supreme Court judge Ruth Bader Ginsburg passed away age 87. We discuss why her legacy is so important, why we all need to add Marty to our vision board, and why it’s so scary that she passed away during a Trump presidency. Last but certainly not least, Emily Ratajkowski penned a moving essay for New York Magazine, which quickly went viral, detailing the night she alleges she was sexually assaulted by a photographer and the nuances of owning her own image and power as a model and public figure. We discuss why it’s okay to want to protect Em Rata from disgusting men and support her as a woman, but also take a slight issue with what she dubs feminism. What’s the line between exploitation and empowerment? And just because you may feel empowered by something, does that make it a feminist act? Listen now for all this and more! You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Recommendations:Schitt's CreekHoney BoyPeanut Butter FalconRBG (Netflix)The Daily's recent two-part special on RBGhttps://www.thecut.com/article/emily-ratajkowski-owning-my-image-essay.html Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:04:2222/09/2020
Making Rap A Women's Sport With JessB

Making Rap A Women's Sport With JessB

Hello lovely angels. Welcome to another episode of After Work Drinks With… This week we’re speaking to JessB, who, over the last couple of years, has been building a reputation as one of the most promising and thoughtful rappers to emerge out of New Zealand - a spotlight usually dominated by one of her male peers. Jess has already won a bunch of awards including the Best New Zealand Act at the 2019 MTV Music Awards. She had her Triple J debut earlier this year, has played Splendour in the Grass, Laneway and Splore - including gigs alongside Future, Grace Jones and Young Thug and some of her biggest tracks have racked up over a million streams on Spotify each. PLUS, in her spare time, Jess co-runs Filth, the coolest club night in Auckland - a safe space for queer folks and people of colour in New Zealand. Basically, she’s a fucking legend. We talk to Jess about drastically switching careers midway through your 20s, tall poppy syndrome, the Wet Ass Pussy controversy, the unique experience of being a woman in rap, and working out what it is that really fulfils you. As always, please rate, review and subscribe. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
35:3218/09/2020
Is It A Boy, A Girl Or A Raging Wildfire?

Is It A Boy, A Girl Or A Raging Wildfire?

Up this week, we discuss the legend that is Naomi Osaka, how Katie Holmes is seemingly dating a Type-A Fuckboy and how Zac Efron found a cute Aussie girlfriend at a cafe. Then it’s onto the new Netflix documentary, The Social Dilemma, which proved what we already know (that we’re all addicts who need to go to phone rehab), while revealing some pretty scary insights into how much these apps know about us - and what they do with that knowledge. Plus, Man Repeller has dropped Leandra Medine and now they've dropped the 'Man' from their name, in a somewhat confusing rebrand, catered to its audience of ‘banana nut loaves and curiously spicy sweet potato fries’. You've got questions? Us too. Of course, we couldn’t ignore the biggest pop culture news of the week: Keeping Up with the Kardashians is over after 20 seasons. Why did the Kardashians stay making KUWTK for so long? And what will their new media empire look like, sans TV? And finally, a mishap at a gender reveal party in California set off a huge wildfire that has already burnt through 10,000 acres of land and caused thousands to evacuate their homes. When the woman who accidentally kicked off the gender reveal trend is telling people to stop, why are we still taking these family celebrations to such extremes? And when did our generation, as one Atlantic journalist put it, start 'over-celebrating' life events?As always, rate, review and subscribe - and we'll see you Saturday.Recommendations Raven Smith - Trivial Pursuits An American Marriage The Social Dilemma (Netflix)Keeping Up With The Kardashians Gave America Its Real First Family by Hadley Freeman in The Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/sep/11/keeping-up-with-the-kardashians-kim-kylie-kendall-family'The Growing Horror Of The Gender Reveal Party' by Raven Smith in Voguehttps://www.vogue.com/article/the-growing-horror-of-the-gender-reveal-party'Are Gender Reveals Cursed?' by Taylor Lorenz in The New York Timeshttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/10/style/gender-reveal-parties-cursed.html'Why Are We Over-Celebrating Life Events' by Alia Wong in The Atlantichttps://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/11/gender-reveal-parties-life-events/577075/ Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
54:0715/09/2020
We All Misunderstood Alexis Neiers

We All Misunderstood Alexis Neiers

This week we’re talking to Alexis Haines, who you will probably know her by her maiden name, Alexis Neiers. Alexis was a pop culture sensation in the late noughties - star of the reality TV series 'Pretty Wild', and best known for her involvement in the infamous ‘Bling Ring’, a group of LA teens who were sentenced to prison for a string of burglaries of high profile celebrities in 2009. The case was immortalised by Sofia Coppola’s 2013 movie, 'The Bling Ring', in which Emma Watson starred as Alexis - portraying her as a superficial, materialistic teen with no substance. It was a description first made by Nancy Jo Sales in her article for Vanity Fair, 'The Suspects Wore Louboutins' - but it wasn’t exactly accurate. In fact, viewed ten years after the fact, we think Alexis is one of the most misunderstood women in modern popular culture. Portrayed as a fame-obsessed teen and mocked by the internet, Haines was actually a trauma-informed sexual assault survivor and teenage drug addict. Now, at 29, she's a drugs and alcohol councillor and a public advocate for youth addiction and sobriety. With her husband, Evan Haines, she co-runs the Alo House Recovery Centre, which has helped thousands of people achieve sobriety. She has written a book and launched a podcast on the same topic, both called Recovering From Reality, and is a registered doula - helping advocate for the racial gaps in maternal mortality. Alexis was really open with us about the sexist treatment she faced in the media and court system, and talks about how it feels to have the public’s perception of you be so at odds with who you actually are. We think you’re going to love this conversation.If you want to find out more about Alexis, listen to her podcast, Recovering from Reality.Just a warning this episode discusses drug addiction, mental health, sexual assault and suicidal ideation and may not be appropriate for everyone. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
50:4311/09/2020
Should You Ever Get Back With Your Ex?

Should You Ever Get Back With Your Ex?

Hello our favourite batch of humans. Welcome to another cross-country episode! This week, Izzy is officially back in London but Grace is galavanting in Italia. We have a frank discussion about revisiting places where you've experienced trauma, what growing up religious taught us (if anything?) and whether or not you should ever get back with your ex, a la Khloe Kardashian. Then, it's into a New Yorker profile of Tik Tok's hottest teen star, Charli D'Amelio - is the secret sauce to viral success being 'normal'? And why Miley Cyrus' Joe Rogan podcast has us seeing the megastar in a new light. As always, rate, review and subscribe, and we'll see you on Saturday.Recommendations:New York Times: When It's Either Your Ex, or Nobody, for Monthshttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/style/modern-love-coronavirus-single-your-ex-or-nobody-for-months.htmlMercy (2019)Educated by Tara WestoverWho Gets To Vote In Florida By Dexter Filkins in The New Yorkerhttps://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/09/07/who-gets-to-vote-in-florida Miley Cyrus on the Joe Rogan podcastHow Charli D'Amelio Became The Face of Tik Tok in The New Yorkerhttps://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/how-charli-damelio-became-the-face-of-tiktok Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
52:4208/09/2020
Is Beauty The Last Feminist Hurdle? With Naomi Wolf

Is Beauty The Last Feminist Hurdle? With Naomi Wolf

This week we are sooooo thrilled to be speaking to the iconic feminist author Naomi Wolf. This year is the 30th anniversary of her seminal book, The Beauty Myth - a book which changed both our lives (and which you would’ve heard us and AWD fave Florence Given reference many times before). We talk to Naomi about the ways beauty standards continue to oppress women, how women are pressured to be compliant and likeable (and how this turns into a kind of mass social grooming), how to figure out what you genuinely like versus what the patriarchy teaches teaches you to like, how to spot genuine male allies and how she’s reframing The Beauty Myth in an era of social media and internet porn. Since releasing The Beauty Myth as a 26-year-old Oxford grad, Naomi has become a celebrated cultural and political commentator, writing for The Guardian, The New Republic and The Huffington Post. She is also the author of eight best-selling books, including her latest - Outrages: Sex, Censorship and the Criminalisation of Love, which tracks the life of an unsung hero of the 19th century gay rights movement, John Addington Symonds.Just a heads-up that Naomi briefly discusses the topic of sexual assault, so if you want to skip over that part of the conversation, it lasts for two minutes from the 20 minute mark. You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
54:1005/09/2020
Sex Workers Made OnlyFans A Success, Celebrities Are Now Ruining It

Sex Workers Made OnlyFans A Success, Celebrities Are Now Ruining It

We’ve got it all covered this week: book recommendations, drunk DMs, dating apps gone wrong and Brad Pitt HAS A GIRLFRIEND?! (who unfortunately isn’t either of us). Then it’s onto a discussion around splitting the bill - when women are still paid substantially less than men, is it anti-feminist of us to want a man to pay for the first date? Plus, paid subscription platform OnlyFans made its millions - 700 to be exact - from the sex workers who use its services, but now celebrities are getting involved - and seemingly ruining everything. After Bella Thorne signed up and promised nude photos to all of the 50,000 (!) people who paid $200 (!) to see them and then failed to deliver, OnlyFans changed its policies, leaving the sex workers who rely on it for their income - especially during a pandemic - out in the cold. We. Have. Questions. We also speak about the impact Chadwick Boseman, the 'Black Panther' star who died last week after a private battle with cancer, had on the Black community and Hollywood as a whole and why his death now, in 2020, hits harder.Recommendations:The Nickel Boys - Colson Whitehead (book)She Wants It - Jill Solloway (book)Transparent (show)The Sex Ed (podcast)Black Panther (film)Hot Girls Wanted (documentary)You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:02:2001/09/2020
Why Politics Is Fucked, But We Need To Engage Anyway With Chlöe Swarbrick

Why Politics Is Fucked, But We Need To Engage Anyway With Chlöe Swarbrick

If you’re from NZ, you’ll need no introduction to the powerhouse that is Chlöe Swarbrick who was elected age 23, making her the country’s youngest MP in over 40 years and who has since gone on to become a sort of AOC figure thanks to her no bullshit nature and insistence that she doesn’t have to give up on her personality - band tees included - just to be taken seriously in parliament. Internationally, Chlöe is known for her viral ‘OK boomer’ quip, where she succinctly shut up a Conservative MP twice her age who was heckling her during a speech about climate change - a moment that was covered everywhere from CNN to the BBC - and, just casually, she’s also behind the first-ever Green Party bill that passed unanimously through parliament. With so much talk about politics at the moment in the USA and beyond, we wanted to get Chlöe on the podcast to speak openly about how, as she’s said before, “politics is fucked”, but why we have to keep trying anyway. Our convo includes, but is not limited to, why millennial voters are disengaged with politics, why it’s worth losing electability to stand up for what you believe in, how she’s dealt with people assuming she doesn’t know what she’s talking about because of her age, the double-edged sword of speaking out about mental health as a politician, how drug laws tend to impact the most vulnerable people, and how toxic the political environment can be.Follow Chlöe on Instagramhere.If you’re a Kiwi, register to vote, check your details and ensure you’re all set to vote from overseas here. Voting opens Saturday 3 October and goes ‘til 7pm on election day, Saturday 17 October. You can vote online from overseas from Wednesday 30 September.If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
54:4728/08/2020
Paul Mescal's Stint On Raya And A Teenage TikTok Legend

Paul Mescal's Stint On Raya And A Teenage TikTok Legend

Izzy, pro surfer, has discovered a hot new gentleman who’s already pretty damn famous and Grace has finally listened to a recommendation: the brilliant new show Lovecraft Country, which we discuss on today's episode. Man Repeller founder Leandra Medine has returned to Instagram accompanied by a lengthy blog piece detailing her absence after the company was accused of racist practises. But does her apology, if that’s what it is, bode well? Plus, were we all too quick to tear down companies like Glossier and The Wing who were actually trying to be inclusive over those who didn’t bother at all? It’s been over five months since Breonna Taylor was shot to death in her own home and still no arrests. Vanity Fair’s tribute to the 26-year-old and interview with her mum will break you. Jacob Blake, an unarmed Black man, was just shot 7 times in the back by police. We discuss why it shouldn’t matter what kind of person the victim is - or whether they were cooperating - and why murders (or attempted murders) aren’t content to be shared on Instagram. Then it’s onto Paul Mescal’s brief foray on celebrity dating app Raya, how Claudia Conway became TikTok's Legend of the Week and an impromptu chat about looking after sick parents and grief You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
53:2125/08/2020
On Trans Inclusion With Jari Jones

On Trans Inclusion With Jari Jones

We are so stoked that our first episode back from break is with Jari Jones, the incredible producer, model and activist whose Calvin Klein billboard, which was debuted on Juneteenth in New York City in the middle of Black Lives Matter and Pride Month, went completely viral, skyrocketing her into the spotlight - exactly where she belongs. We speak to Jari about trans inclusion in the fashion industry, being the first trans producer to be recognised by Cannes Film Festival, why it’s so essential that trans stories are told - and played - by trans talent, how it’s gaslighting that the stars of ‘Pose’ weren’t recognised by the Emmys and her personal journey with self-love.You can follow Jari on Instagram here and send her money for her work via the Cash App: $IAMJARIJONESJari’s recommendations:Pose (TV series)Kiki (documentary)She-Ra: Princess of Power (cartoon)You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
39:1721/08/2020
Ask Everybody. Ask Jonathan, Your Producer

Ask Everybody. Ask Jonathan, Your Producer

We're back, baby! Up this week: surfing Malibu with Jonah Hill and the one time a former Bachelor frontrunner slid into Grace's DMs. Then it's onto Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's new song, WAP. Is the backlash - and a petition with over 70,000 signatures - over Kylie Jenner’s cameo justified? Why are men so shocked when women talk about their own bodies? WTF is a gushie? And the hilarious viral tweet that proves one conservative man has never had good sex. While we were on break, Kamala Harris was picked as Joe Biden’s running mate for the upcoming US election, which was both celebrated and, in part, criticised. While we discuss both sides, the literal president is busy stealing letterboxes from street corners and saying that America is better than ‘the world’ when it comes to COVID-19. And finally, Ellen DeGeneres has been the subject of a whole lot of accusations of horrific behaviour to staff ever since Legend Dakota Johnson went on her show and refused to pander to her shit - Ask everybody! Ask Jonathan, your producer! After a few tone-deaf celebrities have spoken out defending the talk show host, Ellen herself has taken to leaning on her queerness to deflect. You heard it here first: Toxic workplaces are the next frontier of Me Too. So, who should replace Ellen out of Stanley Tucci and Stanley Tucci? Answer: Dakota Johnson.You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. We’re also taking ongoing submissions from writers at [email protected]. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review, subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
53:3218/08/2020
Why Teenage Girls Are The F*cking Best With Caitlin Moran

Why Teenage Girls Are The F*cking Best With Caitlin Moran

This week, we’re so excited to be speaking with British journalist and feminist author Caitlin Moran, whose 2011 book ‘How To Be A Woman’ is credited by everyone from Clementine Ford to our very own Grace O’Neill as being one of the books that originally got them embracing the feminist movement. Now, another of Caitlin's books, a true-ish story of her life as an up-and-coming music journalist in her teens, travelling the world with some of the country's biggest artists, is about to be released, starring none other than our fave girl, Beanie Feldstein, in her first-ever lead role. Ahead of the release of ‘How to Build a Girl’ We spoke to Caitlin about everything from growing up in a sexist household to how the feminist conversation has changed, to living across the road from Morrissey. **We're taking a two week mid-year break now! Back on 19th August. Love you!**You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
28:2601/08/2020
Bitches Get Stuff Done

Bitches Get Stuff Done

Hi! It's our final ep before our mid-year break! This week, we're fangirling over Ziwe, the comedian you need to be following, who uses comedy to discuss racism, baiting her (usually white and unsuspecting) guests in a way that’s both essential and uncomfortable to watch. Then, it's onto a brief chat about how the Melbourne woman in quarantine and the security guard, who are rumoured to be to blame for another wave of COVID, managed to coordinate their bous session, before it’s over to billionaires. Why during an economic crisis and global pandemic are the rich getting much, much richer? And why are they of all people weighing in on government subsidies for those who need it? We discuss the concept of wealth hoarding, why it’s often hard to relate to people who were born into different financial circumstances, and why society values someone’s success through the contents of their bank account instead of the good they do in the world. Plus, after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was called a ‘fucking bitch’ by a fellow congressman at her place of work, she delivered a brilliant speech, but was quickly torn down by media outlets for using the opportunity(?!) as a ‘brand building’ exercise: Why is a woman standing up for herself at work seen as shady? Why is this guy not fired already? And have we, or should we want to, reclaim the word ‘bitch’? **We're taking a two week mid-year break now! Back on 19th August. Love you!**You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
54:3228/07/2020
How To Be An Effective Ally With Brandon Kyle Goodman

How To Be An Effective Ally With Brandon Kyle Goodman

We’re so, so excited to bring you this week’s conversation with Brandon Kyle Goodman, an actor and producer who you probably know from the likes of ‘Modern Love’ (yes, he’s kissed Hot Priest) and ‘Feel the Beat’. But more recently, Brandon has been front and centre because of his viral videos on the topic of race, some of which have garnered millions of views. Brandon has been an incredibly instrumental person in our own anti-racism education, so we really wanted to speak to him now - 8 weeks after the murder of George Floyd and the start of the global movement that followed - about the concept of allyship fatigue, how to be an effective ally as opposed to just a ‘good’ one, what it’ll take to make real systemic change in Hollywood and beyond and how to keep this momentum going longterm. You can follow Brandon on Instagram here and donate to the organisations he mentions here: The Bail Project, The Innocence Project, TransTech Social Enterprises, Black Trans Travel Fund, The Okra Project. You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
58:5325/07/2020
How To Be Single

How To Be Single

Hello and welcome to another episode of After Work Drinks. We're starting on a somber note today, as three of the biggest fashion magazines in Australia - coincidentally the magazines that brought us together all those years ago - are closed. We talk about the legacies of ELLE, InStyle and Harper’s BAZAAR and (try to) instil a little hope in all you aspiring young writers about the future of the Australian media. Plus, the only conversation we should be having about Kanye West right now, how Jacquemus’ Instagram kerfuffle showcased how complicated the ‘diversity in fashion’ conversation is and Izzy’s horny expedition with the Calm app. Then, it’s onto everyone’s favourite subject: relationships. Daniel Sloss’ Netflix stand-up ‘Jigsaw’ has broken up 20,000 couples (and counting). Why is his pro-single message so powerful? How can we start to normalise being alone? And where is the line between accepting that no relationship is perfect, and settling for the wrong relationship?As always, rate, review and subscribe. We love you and we’ll see you on Saturday. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
57:5521/07/2020
How To Stop 'Flattening' Yourself With Pandora Sykes

How To Stop 'Flattening' Yourself With Pandora Sykes

Welcome sweet angels to another episode of After Work Drinks With. This week, we're speaking with Pandora Sykes, journalist, author and co-host of the incredibly popular British podcast, 'The High Low'. Ahead of the release of her first book, ‘How Do We Know We’re Doing It Right?’, we speak to Pandora about everything from the social identity of motherhood and what it means to be 'flattened' as a woman to the way women are presented in media and why we millennials might all be a tad too empathetic (hear her out).You can pre-order 'How Do We Know We're Doing It Right' here or follow Pandora on the 'gram here.You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
34:5718/07/2020
Masturbation, Dating And Figuring Out Your Sexuality With Florence Given

Masturbation, Dating And Figuring Out Your Sexuality With Florence Given

Hello angels! We are so bloody excited for you to hear this one. On today's episode, we’re speaking to Florence Given, the British woman who became an internet sensation by encouraging women everywhere to dump their shitty boyfriends. Florence is an activist, an ally, and an author, with her first book, 'Women Don’t Owe You Pretty' (already a bestseller in the UK) out in Australia this week. We speak to Floss about breaking up with friends, her brilliant crumbs and the cake analogy for dating, masturbation and female pleasure, marriage and social conditioning, figuring out your sexuality and deconstructing the male gaze. We love her and (if you don’t already) we know you will too after listening to this. Enjoy You can follow Florence on Instagram here. You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman.If you liked this episode and want to show your support, please share it with your friends (or on Insta), rate, review and subscribe. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
57:0511/07/2020
Yeezy 2020?

Yeezy 2020?

Welcome to another jam packed episode. Up first, what the fuck is happening in Melbourne right now? A few TV and movie recommendations that you need to watch immediately plus, how Grace waited seven years to watch Hamilton only to realise it was problematic AF. Then, naturally, it’s over to Kanye West, who is keeping good on his word to move the Kardashian clan into the White House. Is Kanye West 2020 for real? Can he actually win? And if not, will his publicity stunt-style bid help Trump anyway? More importantly, how do we talk about celebrities who battle with their mental health? Then it’s over to the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein’s righthand woman, Ghislaine Maxwell. How do we make sense of women who do evil things? And is she really going to spill the tea? FINALLY, we discuss the drama surrounding the now-defunct Instagram account @Aussie_WOC. After initially making waves for their positive impact in pushing Australian fashion and beauty brands to #PullUp, the account suddenly closed among backlash about alleged comments made regarding Indigenous Australians. It proved how essential Indigenous voices are in any discussion around race in Australia, while also showcasing the need for a centralised, formalised organisation (à la the Black in Fashion Council) in Australia. As we watch brands and individuals flail as they try to address the issue of systemic racism, we discuss the importance of giving people space to fail, the reemergence of cancellation culture (didn’t we all agree that was a bad idea?) and the difficult task of trying to talk about nuanced topics on a medium like Instagram. What to do about Melbourne: E-mail or call Premier Daniel Andrews’ office:[email protected](03) 9651 5000E-mail or call Richard Wynne, Minister for [email protected](03) 9415 8901Donate:https://supportpublichousingresidents.raisely.com/You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Recommendations: Pose  BombshellThe Loudest VoiceQueen & SlimStill Processing podcast - We Wouldn't Leave Kanye, But Should We? Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:02:0707/07/2020
Taking On The Government, And Winning With Gina Martin

Taking On The Government, And Winning With Gina Martin

Hello angels! Welcome to another episode of After Work Drinks With… This week we’re so thrilled to be talking to activist and author Gina Martin. Gina is best known for single-handedly making upskirting illegal in the UK (!) Following a horrific encounter at a music festival, Gina was told by police that they couldn’t do anything to help her because what had happened to her wasn’t technically a crime. First she cried, then she took things into her own hands. She launched a national social media campaign, got a lawyer, took on the British government and, in 2019, she WON. Her story will 100% be made into a movie some day. We chat to Gina about internalised victim blaming, imposter syndrome, and the draining reality of being a young woman who takes up space on the internet. We bloody loved having this conversation and you will love it too.Don’t forget to rate, review and subscribe! You make our day every time you leave a review! Oh and follow us on Instagram! Love you all!  Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
52:2404/07/2020
The Year The #Girlboss Died

The Year The #Girlboss Died

Hello fellow after work drinkers! This week we're fan-girling over Michaela Coel (again), investigating why Timmy Chalamet's bous tour of Cabo has enraged Twitter and lapping up Netflix's new documentary Disclosure, which gives an incredible history of trans representation on screen. Next it's a throwback topic: Kim Kardashian and women who promote unrealistic beauty standards to other women. Kim's 'corset selfie' rightly earned the ire of the internet, with Jameela Jamil claiming that the furore as a victory for the body positivity movement. Jameela also claimed that the Kardashians are simply brainwashed by the patriarchy and so shouldn't be personally blamed for her problematic actions - which calls into the question the age-old conundrum: How accountable are women when they choose to uphold patriarchal beauty standards? Then, we offer a touching eulogy to the #girlboss - a boring trope which appears to have died in 2020. As the young female founders who brandished the title are stepping down in disgrace, we investigate how the 'girlboss' was always corporate tokenism, giving women a false sense that gender equality had made its way into the world of business. Are women who run businesses in the same exploitative way men do really progress? And how do we unpack that discomfiting sense of glee when we seem to get whenever a female founder gets ousted? Thanks for listening and, as always, rate, review and subscribe. We'll see you Saturday.If you are an emerging or aspiring BIPIC or LGBTQ+ writer, please e-mail your pitches to [email protected]. Successful entrants will be partnered with an established Australian journalist to work on a story, and will be paid $200 per article.Recommendations:Chewing Gum (2015-2017) I May Destroy You (2020)Disclosure (2020)People Are Trying To Cancel Timmy C For Getting Laid During The Yemen Crisis by Pedestrian TVhttps://www.pedestrian.tv/news/timothee-chalamet-cancelled-cabo/'The Girlboss Has Left The Building' in the Atlantichttps://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/06/girlbosses-what-comes-next/613519/ The End of the Girlboss is here in Mediumhttps://gen.medium.com/the-end-of-the-girlboss-is-nigh-4591dec34ed8Malcolm Gladwell's Revisionist History Episode 1 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
57:4430/06/2020
Racism In Our Own Backyard With Madeleine Madden

Racism In Our Own Backyard With Madeleine Madden

Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of After Work Drinks With. This week we are so excited to be talking to the incredible Madeleine Madden. Madeleine is an Australian actress known for her roles in Picnic At Hanging Rock, Dora and the Lost City of Gold and Mystery Road. But Maddy’s just as well known for her activism, something she’s been involved in publicly since age 13 when she became the first teenager to deliver an address to the nation as part of GenerationOne, an initiative to end indigenous disadvantage. As the great-granddaughter of Hetty Perkins and granddaughter of the most famous Aboriginal rights activist, Charles Perkins, Maddy’s passion for equality in Australia is second to none. We chat about the country's problem with racism, the lessons she learnt growing up in her family, why it’s so important to speak to each other about our different lived experiences, success and ambition and, surprise, surprise, RuPaul’s Drag Race.You can follow Maddy on Instagram here.You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. Please rate, review (we see you Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
40:4127/06/2020
Why Do We Downplay Creepy Men When They're Hot?

Why Do We Downplay Creepy Men When They're Hot?

Hi, hello! We kick things off on a really light note this week: with an existential crisis (seriously what is the point of life?) that started off as an off-air chat that we decided to hit record on. Then it’s onto Gen Z, who are they single-handedly saving democracy. Why are they so much cooler than us? And while we’re at it - why do we have a royal family in 2020? Is the monarchy the next casualty as we start tearing down outdated monuments? Plus, with Ansel Elgort the latest male celebrity to be accused of sexual assault, we dissect the troubling power dynamics when celebrities date their fans. Plus, if we all agree that it’s fundamentally creepy for grown men to date teenagers, why are we so cool with it socially? Do Drake and Leonardo DiCaprio get passes for their creepy behaviour simply because they’re hot? All this and more. Enjoy 🍸.You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman.If you’d like to show your support, please rate, review and subscribe and share AWD Shows:Chewing GumI May Destroy You InsecureDear White People Blackish GirlfriendsStill Processing Episode ‘MJ’Book: Inglorious Empire: What Britain Did In India by Shashi Tharoor Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:05:2023/06/2020
On Britain's Problem With Racism, Internalised Homophobia And Guilty White Women With Char Ellesse

On Britain's Problem With Racism, Internalised Homophobia And Guilty White Women With Char Ellesse

Hello and welcome to another episode of AWD With... This week, we're joined by the powerhouse Char Ellesse. A British model and activist, Char is best known for her radical digital platform Girls Will Be Boys, which celebrates the full spectrum of gender identity through amazing short films. Vogue love her, Dazed love her, and so do we. We chat to Char about the liberation of baldness, internalised homophobia and dealing with an inbox inundated with guilty white women. Please enjoy, and - as always - rate, review and subscribe.You can follow Char on Instagram here.You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
39:0020/06/2020