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Dan Ilic
Laughing in the face of fear. Comedians and experts rip into the news. It's #QandA on crack.🏆 Winner Best Comedy Podcast 2020 / 2021 / 2022 / 2023. Sign up to the newsletter: http://www.arationalfear.com If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jon Ronson on psychopaths, shame & spending time with Alex Jones

Jon Ronson on psychopaths, shame & spending time with Alex Jones

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G’day Fearmongers,The privilege of being a white guy with a podcast is that you get to talk to your heroes, record those conversations and then share them with your friends, acquaintances, and 10,000 of you — our fellow fearmongers.In this episode Jon Ronson joins us to talk about psychopathy, the evolution of public shaming in the late social media era, we try to tease out of him what his experience was like on #QandA, we touch on Trump, and then Jon tells us this incredible anecdote about sneaking into Bohemian Grove with Alex Jones. It’s wild.The video of this podcast is ready to view only on PatreonIf you’re the kind of person who’d rather watch an un-edited version of this chat — you can — by simply joining the Patreon for as little as $4 a month.You can go see Jon live on stage around Australia this month with his psychopath nights tour. 🎟️ fane.com.auCheersDan🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
51:0121/11/2024
Direct from COP29: The juicy gossip and a beached whale

Direct from COP29: The juicy gossip and a beached whale

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/Salam Fearmongers,This week we’re connecting with two of our favourite friends of the pod who are wandering around the hall of COP29 in Baku, Azerbijan.Linh Do & Richie Merzian.We chat negotiations, financial commitments and how no one at COP is even talking nuclear. And how that dead whale on the shores of Baku (on the land-locked Caspian Sea), rattled everyone on Day 1 of the climate talks.Read more about that whale.Richie and Linh also chat about Australia's bid for COP31, the quality of the meals in the football stadium where COP is being held this year, and, of course, climate celebrity sightings. Yeah, we’re TMZ now!CheersDan🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
22:3915/11/2024
NZ leaves us with nothing but ANUS

NZ leaves us with nothing but ANUS

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
51:5408/11/2024
Season finale of the United States of America

Season finale of the United States of America

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/Howdy Fearmongers,We’re in the home stretch — at the time of publishing, there’s only 6 days left until Americans everywhere skip work, neglect their families, and dodge bullets to line up in droves to spend a few good hours deciding who will be the comptroller, dog catcher, deputy sheriff, parking tsar, book stacker and President of the USA.Recorded in Texas, this episode of A Rational Fear brings together a couple of Austin based poliphiles 🐘 Republican devotee James Donald Forbes McCann and 🫏 Democrat dedicatee Eve Ellenbogan as they grapple with some of the big issues facing the country in this — the Season Finale of the United States of America.And as for me — well I may as well have turned my mic off.Follow James Donald Forbes McCann on his podcast HERE.And you can follow Eve Ellenbogan on Instagram HERE.SummaryIn this episode of Irrational Fear, host Dan Ilic and guests discuss the current political climate in the U.S., focusing on the upcoming elections, the role of comedy in politics, and the implications of recent Trump rallies. They delve into the hypocrisy of political values, immigration policies, and economic reforms, while also addressing media endorsements and the influence of billionaires like Jeff Bezos. The conversation touches on Israel's political stance and the integrity of the electoral system, culminating in a humorous yet critical examination of the state of democracy.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Patreon Support01:51 Political Climate and Upcoming Elections03:29 Trump Rally and Comedy in Politics10:43 Hypocrisy in Political Values12:36 Immigration and Border Policies20:22 Economic Policies and Taxation25:08 Media Endorsements and Jeff Bezos29:07 Israel and Political Stances37:24 Election Integrity and Voting SystemsThanks as always for downloading A Rational Fear — if you can chip into the Patreon or if you can’t shoot us a response on the listener survey.🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
39:5830/10/2024
JokeTober sketch review

JokeTober sketch review

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/Welcome to the JokeTober episode.Throughout October I had the privilege to run some satirical comedy workshops for 2SER, a community radio station in SydneyPart of the “prize” of being selected as a JokeTober co-hort they got some actual jokes published on the A Rational Fear podcast — we set them a challenge to write a satirical come up with 3 satirical comedy sketches that were all recorded last Monday at the 2SER studios in Sydney.And we’re playing those for you here!Also with Lewis and I ripping into them providing constructive feedback.JokeTober was such great fun. Big thanks to Paula Kruger for having us along, and to our mega brains who came along to share their comedy knowledge; Lewis Hobba, Cale Bain, Bec Melrose , Dylan Behan, John Delmenico, and Mark Humphries .The cohort are a talented bunch and will no doubt be making biting satirical comedy for your ears for years to come. (Except Adam, who insists on being negged)Thanks as always for downloading A Rational Fear — if you can chip into the Patreon or if you can’t shoot us a response on the listener survey.🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
19:3828/10/2024
Judging fat bears & hawking Trump Bibles

Judging fat bears & hawking Trump Bibles

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G'day Fearmongers,This week we’re joined by Emerson Brophy and Hannah Ferguson.While the NACC is getting knackered, climate action is getting neutered, and action on cost of living is nixed. Albo is really getting into shrinkflation.albompA post shared by @albompBecause some extra chips in a packet is going to solve how much that packet costs — thank goodness — without this new push, we wouldn’t have laws to protect consumers on this issue.Oh — checks notes — we already do. They’ve been around since 2010.This must be sweet relief to the compliance officers at Coles and Woolworths who have definitely been compliant for the last 15 years.Also on the podcast we’re talking Trump Bibles and Fat Bears.Thanks as always for downloading A Rational Fear — if you can chip into the Patreon or if you can’t shoot us a response on the listener survey.CheersDanIn this episode, Dan Ilic and his guests discuss a range of topics from Dan's recent debut on 'Home and Away' to audience engagement through surveys. They delve into political commentary, particularly focusing on the Australian Prime Minister's attention to trivial issues like chip packaging while neglecting more pressing matters like the cost of living. The conversation shifts to a controversial initiative in Oklahoma regarding the purchase of Bibles for schools, highlighting the selective interpretation of the Constitution and the implications of such actions. In this episode, the hosts explore the absurdity of modern merchandise, particularly focusing on the overwhelming presence of Bluey merchandise in children's lives. They also discuss the humorous and body-positive celebration of Fat Bear Week, highlighting the victory of a bear named 128 Grazer. The conversation wraps up with reflections on the themes discussed and plugs for upcoming projects from the guests.Takeaways🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
26:4810/10/2024
The return of the sausages

The return of the sausages

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/📋 LISTENER SURVEY: CLICK HEREG’day Fearmongers,UK Prime Minister Kier Starmer had one of the all time gaffes in politics this week — demanding at the Labour conference that Hamas “Free the sausages” immediately he spat out “Free the Hostages” — with a look on his face that screamed “no one heard the sausage thing…right?” — but alas it was too late.There is nothing much funny about the middle east situation right now. This however is a gaffe that will stand the test of time. Perhaps it is so funny that waring sides in the middle east will come together in harmony and have a good old laugh over small goods. But sausages are pork products so by their inbuilt politic are antisemitic. Shame on you Kier Starmer.On the podcast this week we have David Rose, Sashi Perera, as well as Scott Mitchell who is on the trail with Lachlan Morton as he loops Australia by bicycle — Follow his journey and donate to his fundraiser HERE.At the time of writing this email Lachy was already on his way out of Sydney — he’s flying! (Figuratively)Thanks as always for downloading A Rational Fear — if you can chip into the Patreon or if you can’t shoot us a response on the listener survey.CheersDanIT’S SURVEY TIME!In order to get a new sponsor for A Rational Fear we need to find out more about you! So please jump into our survey and answer a few questions — it’s totally anonymous — we won’t Medibank you, we swear! CLICK HERE🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
34:4204/10/2024
Nuclear Desert & Dan's $2K shop

Nuclear Desert & Dan's $2K shop

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/📋 FILL OUT OUR AUDIENCE SURVEY: https://z5xf13rh5z4.typeform.com/to/J0SFy05NCharlotte George, Zach Mander, Wayne Smith, Lewis Hobba, Dan IlicG’day Fearmongers,This week Peter Dutton took his Nuclear dog for a walk in Sydney and it off the leash at the CEDA conference in Sydney — the Committee for Economic Development of Australia — a very pro industry think tank that really enjoys taking government money and making things for fun and profit. This line from RenewEconomy’s publisher Giles Parkinson summed up who was in the room aside from a smattering of bankers:Bizarrely, many of the rest were from the clean energy industry, curious to know what they might be dealing with should the Coalition return to power next year. Did they like what they heard? Not really. Did they learn anything? No.And we can guarantee you won’t learn anything new from listening to the podcast this week either — but you will have fun. We talk about Dutton no-plans, and Zach Mander takes us shopping in Australia’s poshest Vinnies, and Charlotte George tells us about the Victorian Government’s plan to demolisth 44 block of public housing without any reasoning behind it whatsoever!Charlotte has also just launched her comedy web series Buried which is very dark, and very funny for every parent who hasn’t had quite enough sleep (Lewis?). It stars the very funny Miriam Glaser and stars a bunch of Australian comedy legends.Click to watch Buried on YouTube.IT’S SURVEY TIME!In order to get a new sponsor for A Rational Fear we need to find out more about you! So please jump into our survey and answer a few questions — it’s totally anonymous — we won’t Medibank you, we swear! CLICK HERE🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
32:2326/09/2024
Scrotum lookalike wants the world to burn

Scrotum lookalike wants the world to burn

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G'day Fearmongers,Big thanks to Ampel and Myrtle & Pine Studio for lending us their podcast studio to record this week's A Rational Fear in person.We have in the studio Grace Tame, and Punter's Politics, as well as Lewis Hobba and me (Dan Ilic).This week we discuss the Murdoch family's legal battles, the controversy surrounding the Australian remake of The Office, and environmental concerns related to the Betaloo Basin.And here’s a quick plug — Grace Tame is touring around the country this month in conversation with various people including me in Sydney and Melbourne — she’s also going to Canberra and Brisbane. 🎟️ Get tickets here.Thanks always for listening to A Rational Fear — if you can chip into the Patreon, or a the very least leave a review on Apple Podcasts and we’ll read them out on air.Cheers,Dan IlicTakeawaysThe podcast humorously critiques current events and societal issues.The Murdoch family's internal dynamics are complex and contentious.Legal battles within the Murdoch family reflect broader media power struggles.The remake of The Office in Australia has sparked significant debate.Public reactions to media adaptations often mirror past controversies.Environmental concerns are often overshadowed by corporate interests.The Betelgeuse Basin represents a critical environmental issue in Australia.Political commentary reveals public skepticism towards government actions.Humor serves as a tool for discussing serious topics.The podcast encourages listeners to engage critically with the news.🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
33:3920/09/2024
Don't ask where the money is coming from - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, Mark Connely & Alice Brennan

Don't ask where the money is coming from - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, Mark Connely & Alice Brennan

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/In this episode of A Rational Fear, the hosts discuss a range of topics including the impact of Russian funding on YouTube influencers, the effectiveness of political propaganda, and a detailed analysis of the recent US presidential debate. They also touch on the upcoming COP31 climate conference and its implications for Australia. The conversation is filled with humour and insightful commentary on the current political landscape.TakeawaysThe influence of Russian funding on political messaging is significant.Tim Pool's case exemplifies the intersection of media and propaganda.Polarisation strategies are effective in shaping public opinion.Influencers play a crucial role in disseminating political messages.The recent US presidential debate showcased contrasting strategies between candidates.COP31 presents both challenges and opportunities for Australia in climate discussions.The hosts emphasise the importance of questioning funding sources in media.Humour is a key element in discussing serious political issues.The dynamics of political debates can shift public perception.Future episodes will continue to explore these themes in depth.🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
33:1513/09/2024
Introducing: Preppers

Introducing: Preppers

G’day Fearmongers —We’re back next week with all new A Rational Fear Podcast episodes.But before that please enjoy this brand new podcast series I worked on with the UNSW Centre For Ideas called Preppers.It’s about how we all need to get prepared for the end of the world together. We talk to so many great people for this podcast.On the A Rational Fear podcast feed I’ve just put up Episode 1 but search for Preppers wherever you find podcasts or go to www.arationalfear.com to get the direct links.If you’re heading to the Better Future Forum next week in Canberra, I’ll see you there!CheersDan If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
34:5906/09/2024
Sneaking into Pine Gap - behind the scenes with Boy_Boy

Sneaking into Pine Gap - behind the scenes with Boy_Boy

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/Alex Apollonov and Aleksa Vulovic are the co-hosts of the youtube channel Boy_Boy who have built an epic following thanks to their adventures in democracy, civics and capitalism. They share how they snuck into the super secret spy base Pine Gap and the of ramifications of getting caught.🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
38:5612/03/2024
1,000,000th download LIVE SHOW

1,000,000th download LIVE SHOW

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/Celebrating 1,000,000 downloads live in Melbourne at the Malthouse Theatre This is the show that rips into the news with the the best and brightest includingCharlie Pickering.Sami Shah.Kirsty WebeckRichard Fidler DJ Andrew McClelland.🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
22:2104/02/2024
John Delmenico — A Rational Conversation

John Delmenico — A Rational Conversation

🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO OUR MELBOURNE 1,000,000th DOWNLOAD SHOW: https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/what-s-on/malthouse-outdoor-stage/a-rational-fear/🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/John Delmenico, the editor of The Chaser, joins the podcast to discuss his role and the future of the publication. John shares his journey from dropping out of university to becoming a writer for The Chaser and eventually the editor. He talks about the process of writing satire, the challenges of covering politics, and the need for a fresh approach in 2024. John also discusses the revenue model of The Chaser and his experience as a young leader in the media industry.John has been writing jokes for The Chaser for ages, and if you're one of those people who are terminally online you certainly would have come across his work on Twitter, as well as his fine headlines and articles.If you like conversations about media, comedy and the craft of making jokes and business of making money from them, this is a great podcast.Also John shares his unlikely journey from youth stoke victim to punchline king.DanP.S. Melbourne, we'll see you at the live show at the Malthouse Theatre: https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/what-s-on/malthouse-outdoor-stage/a-rational-fear/🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
08:1813/01/2024
A Rational Year — Peter Dutton presents the best sketches and bits from 2023

A Rational Year — Peter Dutton presents the best sketches and bits from 2023

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY A TICKET TO OUR 1,000,000th Download show: https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/what-s-on/malthouse-outdoor-stage/a-rational-fear/G’day Fearmongers —Thrilled to drop our end of the year special 2023 — hosted by Peter Dutton. Sorry, we have to for balance or risk jail in 2024.It’s been a big year —We’ve performed in Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney, and Thursday Island. We won Best Comedy Podcast at the Australian Podcast Awards for the 4th time in a row — AND we hit 1,000,000 downloads last month so we’re putting on a big show to celebrate:It’s at Melbourne’s Malthouse Theatre and the line up is stacked with ARF favourites including Charlie Pickering, Kirsty Webeck, Sami Shah, Dj Andrew McClelland and the man with the most downloads in Australia Richard Fidler.🎟️ Buy a ticket now before they’re all sold out.THANKS RØDEThanks to our friends at RØDE Microphones for hooking Lewis Hobba with a brand new RØDEecaster Duo. If you ever think about starting your own podcast or even if you have to do zoom calls from home, it’s worth the investment in some RØDE gear of your own! Buy yours here. Thanks to everyone who came to gigs, downloaded the show, told their friends about the show, shared on social media, to our Patreon supporters who pay for the show, and to all the comedians, guests and experts who join us, Jacob Round on the teppanyaki timeline — and a special thanks to my love, Kate Holdsworth, who relentlessly writes some of the best jokes for the show when I’m in a panic, and happily endorses this stupid hobby even if it means writing emails in the holidays.Happy New Fear everyone!Cheers,Dan 🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
40:0901/01/2024
Newsfighters — Year In Review 2023

Newsfighters — Year In Review 2023

🎟️ BUY A TICKET TO OUR 1,000,000th DOWNLOAD SHOW: https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/what-s-on/malthouse-outdoor-stage/a-rational-fear/🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/ If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
26:3620/12/2023
Matt Lieb — A Rational Conversation

Matt Lieb — A Rational Conversation

🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO OUR 1,000,000th DOWNLOAD LIVE SHOW: https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/tickets/malthouse-outdoor-stage/a-rational-fear/🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/It's tricky times to be a satirical comedian on the world stage right now.The world is full of sad things, but it's a comedians job to find the catharsis in the contemporary anxiety.One comedian who is doing that on the toughest of subjects is Matt Lieb.A progressive jewish person Matt has created online sarcastic persona of the Liberal Zionist who attempts to justify the scale of violence being unleashed upon civilians in Gaza. Matt Lieb discusses his use of humour in addressing the Israel-Palestine conflict and the risks involved in speaking out. He highlights the challenges of navigating the minefield of criticising Israel and the consequences that individuals face for expressing their opinions. Matt also shares his experiences as a Jewish comedian and the different perspectives he brings to his comedy. Throughout the conversation, Matt emphasises the importance of separating criticism of the Israeli government from anti-Semitism and the need for open and honest dialogue on the topic.The conversation covers various aspects of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, including language use, the perspective of Israeli comedians, the impossible situation faced by Israelis, the lack of hope for peace, imagining alternative solutions, and the role of comedy in discussing sensitive topics.Follow Matt Lieb's work:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattliebjokes/Twitter: https://twitter.com/mattliebIt was a super interesting conversation. Speaking of conversations. Richard Fidler from the most downloaded podcast in Australia, “CONVERSATIONS” is joining us for our 1,000,000th download live show which is on sale now.A Rational Fear is turning 1,000,000 in downloads. Buy a ticket to our 1,000,000th download live show here:https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/tickets/malthouse-outdoor-stage/a-rational-fear/🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
49:1914/12/2023
Wendy Harmer — A Rational Conversation

Wendy Harmer — A Rational Conversation

🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO OUR 1,000,000th DOWNLOAD LIVE SHOW: https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/tickets/malthouse-outdoor-stage/a-rational-fear/🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/In this conversation, Dan and Lewis interview Wendy Harmer, a comedy legend and former radio host. They discuss the evolution of comedy and radio, the impact of commercial radio, memorable interactions with radio management, and unconventional radio stunts. Wendy shares stories from her time on The Morning Crew and reflects on the cultural significance of the show. They also discuss the changing media landscape and the success of radio hosts like Kyle and Jackie O. Overall, the conversation highlights the unique and influential role of radio in the comedy industry.TakeawaysRadio has played a significant role in the evolution of comedy, providing a platform for comedians to showcase their talent and reach a wide audience.Commercial radio has undergone significant changes over the years, with comedians becoming a staple on radio shows and management often lacking experience in the medium.Unconventional radio stunts and promotions have been a hallmark of the industry, with hosts often pushing boundaries to engage listeners and boost ratings.Wendy Harmer's time on The Morning Crew was culturally significant, as she brought a female perspective to radio and helped redefine the role of women in the industry.The media landscape has changed dramatically, with the rise of social media and digital platforms providing new avenues for content creation and consumption.A Rational Fear is turning 1,000,000 in downloads. Buy a ticket to our 1,000,000th download live show here:https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/tickets/malthouse-outdoor-stage/a-rational-fear/Chapters00:00Introduction and One Millionth Download Show02:25Introducing Wendy Harmer03:05The Evolution of Comedy and Radio05:01Capturing the Comedy Community08:07Finding Your Tribe in Comedy09:08The Impact of Commercial Radio10:10Memorable Interactions in Radio12:39Unconventional Radio Stunts17:30The Influence of Radio Management19:16The Dash for Cash and Other Stunts21:53The Origin of 'Two Strangers and a Wedding'23:45The Cultural Significance of The Morning Crew30:32The Impact of Wendy Harmer's Radio Career33:36The Changing Landscape of Media36:06The Success of Kyle and Jackie O🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
50:5508/12/2023
Sponsor losing - Award winning - Dan Ilic & Lewis Hobba

Sponsor losing - Award winning - Dan Ilic & Lewis Hobba

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/Lewis and Dan catch up after winning the Best Comedy Podcast at the Australian Podcast Awards.Come see the 1,000,000th download show at the Malthouse Theatre February 1stTICKETS https://www.malthousetheatre.com.au/tickets/malthouse-outdoor-stage/a-rational-fear🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
16:3623/11/2023
LIVE FROM SXSW SYDNEY -  Dan Ilic, Chris Taylor, Lee Constable,  Ed Coper, Antoinette Lattouf,  DJ Dylan Behan

LIVE FROM SXSW SYDNEY - Dan Ilic, Chris Taylor, Lee Constable, Ed Coper, Antoinette Lattouf, DJ Dylan Behan

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/ A Rational Fear is LIVE at SXSW SYDNEY!🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
48:3621/10/2023
Cal Wilson: Millennial Horns, the Wikipedia entry

Cal Wilson: Millennial Horns, the Wikipedia entry

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G’day Fearmongers,I’m sure many of you who are comedy fans would have already seen the news that our friend Cal Wilson passed away this week.Everything everyone says of Cal is right — she’s simply one of the kindest, just and joyful people who worked in comedy. We were all so lucky to be friends with her, we all thought we’d probably have her for quite a few more decades to come.Here is a short podcast of when she performed on A Rational Fear in 2019 at the Adelaide Cabaret Festival.Two other things:Vote Yes— in Tomorrow’s referendum. Thanks to everyone from A Rational Fear land who chipped into F-Yes. We’ve reached about 2 million people over the 4 weeks we ran our campaign. SXSW SYDNEY —If you’re the holder of a SXSW Sydney badge you can come and check out A Rational Fear on stage at the podcast stage 3.30pm October 20th. It’ll be me, Chris Taylor, Lee Constable, Antoinette Lattouf and some other fun people.That’s it for this week’s podcast newsletter —Vale Cale Wilson.Vote yes.Vome to our SXSW show.CheersDan IlicF-Yes🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
12:0612/10/2023
LIVE FROM WAIBEN THURSDAY ISLAND -  Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, Jay Wymarra, Diat Alferink, Dane Simpson  & Leon Filewood

LIVE FROM WAIBEN THURSDAY ISLAND - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, Jay Wymarra, Diat Alferink, Dane Simpson & Leon Filewood

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G'day Fearmongers,Last Monday — A Rational Fear performed live on stage at the Thursday Island Bowls Club where we set the table to have a discussion about The Voice and Climate Change.The maestro of all things arts and culture on TI Diat Alferink produced and performed in the show as well as joined by other First Nations comedians Leon Filewood, Jay Wymarra and Dane Simpson.This was one of the most fun shows we have ever done. I know I say that after most live shows, but this show had a unique quality. Maybe it was the bowls club, maybe it was because everyone is related to each other, but this show had a sense of community, that we haven’t really experienced. It was like doing a show for your family.We took the opportunity to talk about The Voice, and the bad actors and misinformation surrounding it, the cost of living on TI, climate change and everyone took an opportunity to bully Lewis Hobba for being white.The show — you’ll hear — gets more and more raucous as it goes on, and for the community, it was a great opportunity for them to hear discussion about serious topics in a funny way to spark conversation about The Voice and climate change.We were so lucky to have Aaron Smith join us for the trip to document show. The day of the show we spent running around making sketches to roll out for F-Yes. Which you can see on Instagram / Facebook / TikTok and XBig thanks go to Diat Alferink. Diat made us feel so special, and welcomed, she even cooked us a post-show meal, that I won’t forget. Also shows like this are not possible without the Patreon and a generous Impact Grant from the team at the The Bertha Foundation. Please follow A Rational Fear on social media, and F-Yes, and share every piece of content we’re publishing between now and the referendum.Cheers,Dan Ilic🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:15:3822/09/2023
LIVE AT THE WOMEN IN MEDIA CONFERENCE

LIVE AT THE WOMEN IN MEDIA CONFERENCE

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:07:0215/09/2023
Not a boycott but a universal pull out  - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, Megan Herbert & Matt Bray

Not a boycott but a universal pull out - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, Megan Herbert & Matt Bray

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G’day Fearmongers,This week we’re explaining the Walkleys walkout by some of the most celebrated cartoonists in the country. Australia’s most prestigious Journalism Awards are sponsored by a fossil fuel company, and Megan Herbert is on the podcast to talk us through her decision.Also Matt Bray joins us to talk about his latest creation. Gas Tycoon The Board Game. Which I should stress is NOTHING like Monopoly. Matt has launched a Kickstarter Campaign to get it off the ground. Go chip in to to support it, or you could win one of five copies by simply becoming an A Rational Fear Patreon supporter.KICKSTARTER: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/artdisrupt/gas-tycoon-australias-no1-fossil-gas-expansion-board-gamePATREON: https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearWe also talk burning man, Qantas, and bad jokes on Netflix specials.Dan🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
27:4308/09/2023
Keeping up with the Rubiales -  Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, Tash Exelby & Issy Phillips

Keeping up with the Rubiales - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, Tash Exelby & Issy Phillips

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear Here's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon. 🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show. 🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows. 🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos. 👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions. 💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord. If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
30:4331/08/2023
NEWS FIGHTERS: How to (not) solve Australia’s cost of living of crisis!

NEWS FIGHTERS: How to (not) solve Australia’s cost of living of crisis!

On this month's episode of NEWS FIGHTERS, chief wacky clips correspondent Dylan Behan takes a deep dive into what’s driving the cost of living and housing crises in Australia, as well as all the stupid solutions proposed by our self-serving politicians.ALSO: News Fighters is coming to the Sydney Fringe Festival! For the first time ever, we’re doing an episode LIVE ON STAGE at The Factory Theatre in Marrickville on September 15 at 6:50pm, with special guests including Dan Ilic, Stefan Pazur and more TBC. Use the promo code FRIENDS to get 10% off tickets at burgerrings.com. PLEASE COME!News Fighters is a comedic look at Australian news, media and political hypocrisy from TV comedy editor and producer Dylan Behan. To find new monthly episodes on the A Rational Fear podcast feed, subscribe at arationalfear.com or on your podcasting app of choice:Apple: http://apple.co/3VOx4LjSpotify: http://spoti.fi/3QemUCoGoogle Podcasts: http://bit.ly/3VRov29Chip into support the show at http://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearBuy Dylan a coffee: http://ko-fi.com/newsfightersWatch News Fighters on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/newsfightersFollow News Fighters on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/newsfighterspod/Follow News Fighters on X/Twitter: http://twitter.com/NewsfightersPodFollow Dylan on X/Twitter: http://twitter.com/dylabolicalBuy merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/dylabdesignsEmail: [email protected] If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
19:0927/08/2023
Poorer, hotter and less productive  - Dan Ilic, AJ Lamarque, Jesse Noakes & Matt Kean

Poorer, hotter and less productive - Dan Ilic, AJ Lamarque, Jesse Noakes & Matt Kean

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G'day Fearmongers,We're back with our 200th episode of our award winning podcast. 200! Time flies when you have a series of crushing deadlines to meet. Later on this year we’ll also hit 1 million downloads, that is if we’re not shot down flying from St. Petersberg to Moscow.Sitting in the co-host seat this week we have comedian, writer, producer, theatre maker AJ Lamarque. They’re very charming, and worth a follow.THE BANTER THIS WEEK CONSISTS OF: 🤖 India landing on the moon. 🌏 Should NZ become part of Australia? 🔌 Chris Minns’ coal kink feat. Matt Kean.🧵 And we chat with Disrupt Burrup Hub protestor Jesse Noakes.EXTRA FEAR:If you sign up to the Patreon you can listen to the podcast ad-free, sponsor free and this week you’ll be able to get some EXTRA FEAR with the full conversation with Matt Kean on Chris Minns’ coal kink.Patreon supporters also get a link to the Discord server where we make jokes about the news and discuss the podcast.UPCOMING LIVE SHOWS:We’ve got two live shows coming up — the Women in Media Conference Sept 9th and the Torres Strait Sept 18th. Yes performing on a Monday on Thursday Island.Outrageous.Cheers,Dan🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
32:5825/08/2023
GMPOOG: David Roberts "Trump is totally apocalyptic for climate change."

GMPOOG: David Roberts "Trump is totally apocalyptic for climate change."

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/Something a bit different from A Rational Fear this week — Long time listeners will be familiar with our spin off — The Greatest Moral Podcast Of Our Generation. Today we have a long form conversation with one my favourite climate voices.This week I sat down with energy and climate journalist David Roberts from the popular climate and energy podcast Volts. If you don't listen already you can subscribe here.  But I suspect many of you like our podcast producer Jacob Round (from the Teppanyaki Timeline) are big fans.David is in Australia to do some side events around the ALP Conference in Brisbane later this week. He's here to have conversations with folks on the opportunities that unions, workers, and capital have in the the renewable energy transition.We cover a lot of territory in 30minutes — including what the ALP should do around climate, and what may happen to the Inflation Reduction Act (big US climate policy) if Trump gets back in. If you listen to us all the time, you may know some of this, however if you're new to the renewable space, this is a good refresher.Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/KUnvzIP39fd3Jyc5wJe9rEOpF50?utm_source=copy_urlTHANKSTo Australian Ethical, Rode, and as I now live outside of the big smoke, big thanks to Dom and Charles at The Chaser for lending me their studio to record this conversation, and thanks to Jacob Round for the fast turn around edit.🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
31:2117/08/2023
BONUS: Unlikely Best Friends — Grace Tame & Camilla Cleese

BONUS: Unlikely Best Friends — Grace Tame & Camilla Cleese

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/BONUS SPECIAL: A Rational Conversation.This is the story of how Grace Tame and Camilla Cleese became best friends.It's a wonderful story of resilience, vulnerability, creativity, comedy and the last supper.IMAGE LINK: Grace Tame's Last Supper Picture.https://twitter.com/johncleese/status/928316728278421512🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
51:2526/07/2023
Quitting to join Threads fulltime -  Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba. Lee Constable & Ange Lavoipierre

Quitting to join Threads fulltime - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba. Lee Constable & Ange Lavoipierre

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G'day Fearmongers,We're back with the season finale of our award winning podcast.We're talking 🤖 Artificial Intelligence, 🌏 Climate Clubs, 🇺🇸 Americans on tour and 🧵 Threads.With fellow fearmongers:Lee ConstableAnge Lavoipierre Lewis Hobba #OpenToWorkand Dan Ilic .And if you're a Patreon supporter you'll hear this week's sketch. Written by Crikey's Tom Red, and read by Wendy Harmer. Gina Rinehart reads a poem outlining her position on the voice.🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
49:1414/07/2023
End Of Financial Fear  - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, Alice Tovey & Glen James

End Of Financial Fear - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, Alice Tovey & Glen James

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear Here's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
35:0707/07/2023
Prigozhin's onlyfans -  Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba & Matt Bevan

Prigozhin's onlyfans - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba & Matt Bevan

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear Here's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon. 🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show. 🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows. 🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos. 👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions. 💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord. If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
43:5230/06/2023
Cheap Coke & Black Market Fantales -  Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba & Georgie Parker (not the actress)

Cheap Coke & Black Market Fantales - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba & Georgie Parker (not the actress)

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G’day Fearmongers,Hockeyroo and Olympian Georgie Parker (not the actress) is our guest this week, and after spending 5 nights up watching the ashes, there’s few people more qualified to talk about Bazball vs Cumball.On the podcast this week we talk:🏡 Housing Affordability Future Fund.🍫 Fantales are off the shelves.🏏 Cumins and the anti-woke brigade.🍗 KFC price gouging. (ONLY ON PATREON)PLEASE chip into the Patreon if you can. We need to buy some new gear for the podcast, and everything is sooo expensive. You’ll notice we’re running programatic ads now — one of the benefits of the Patreon is that you get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show, and this week you get a little bit extra of the podcast. We’re talking about how KFC is far outpacing inflation when it comes to raising it’s prices.Cheers,DanActing CEO.OceanGate LLC. PLUGS:See Dan Ilic at It's The News: https://improvtheatresydney.com.au/events/its-the-news/See Dan Ilic perform at Slide Night! at the Sydney Opera House: https://www.sydneyoperahouse.com/comedy/slide-night🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHere's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon.🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show.🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows.🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos.👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions.💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord.If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
28:0621/06/2023
Solving the climate crisis with gun rights - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba & Ange Lavoipierre.

Solving the climate crisis with gun rights - Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba & Ange Lavoipierre.

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G’day Fearmongers —We’re back on the tools for the next five weeks to laugh in the face of the scariest news.This episode we talk about the US Government being so embarrassed at surveilling its own citizens, that they’re now telling everyone about it, and hoping someone else in the US Government will fix it.Why won’t someone fix the legal loop holes!?We also chat about this strange new group of conservatives who are planning to solve the meaning of life. Who is in this group? John Howard, Tony Abbott, and Jordan Peterson to name a few. They’re called the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship. Sounds like a bunch of people who need a night on the shrooms.Also we chat with Ange Lavoirpierre about the disaffection that Gen Z and Millennials have with politics-as-usual. And how ideas like capitalism are very much out of fashion, and the coolest new derogatory term of people who dare to participate in thrift store arbitrage.Here more from Ange on her excellent podcast SchmeitgeistCheersDan🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear Here's all the fun stuff you get when you sign up to Patreon. 🎧 Get an ad-free and sponsor free version of the show. 🎟 Get early access and discounts to live shows. 🎥 Get early access to final videos, and draft edits of upcoming videos. 👨🏼‍⚖️ Make show suggestions. 💬 Get a link to the A Rational Fear discord. If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
30:4015/06/2023
News Fighters — Budget Wars 2023

News Fighters — Budget Wars 2023

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/NEWS FIGHTERS PODCASTThis month on News Fighters host Dylan Behan takes an in-depth look at the 2023 “Goldilocks” Budget. Somehow treasurer Jim Chalmers and Labor have lucked out with a once-in-15-year surplus, but can they use it to help those out in the cold while not overheating the economy with inflation? Meanwhile Peter Dutton and the coalition argue that instead of giving a tiny increase to welfare recipients, this money would be better used to fund holidays and the mining industry.  TRANSCRIPTION Jim Chalmers 00:01This is News Fighters, where we fight the news so you don't have to. Dylan Behan 00:10 Yes welcome to episode 123 of news fighters from May 2023. News fighters, chase the vibes. I'm Dylan Bay and you might know me from A Rational fear as being the onstage Hobbit DJ guy and occasional wacky clips merchant and I'm here with the biggest news story of the week. Journalist 00:27It's budget night and we'll see something we haven't in 15 years.  Dylan Behan 00:31Yes, that's right for the first time in 15 years. Is it Michael Jackson back from the dead and live in concert? Or is it Kevin Rudd? Not a laughingstock? Oh, perhaps it's a livable apartment in Sydney for under $600,000? No, of course they were talking about the first Jim Chalmers 00:46budget surplus in 15 years.  If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
20:5314/05/2023
AI Murder Vapes - Erchana Murray Bartlett, Craig Quartermaine, Persephone Fraser, Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba

AI Murder Vapes - Erchana Murray Bartlett, Craig Quartermaine, Persephone Fraser, Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ SEE OUR LIVE SHOW: https://comedy.com.au/tour/a-rational-fear-live/G'day Fearmongers,Last night at an industry dinner on the Gold Coast I was having a joke with some British TV producers about the Coronation. I was gently mocking the ceremony for how everything about it was modern and progressive.Or at least I thought I was gently mocking.From the magic stone seat, to the 500 year old spoon, to the oil from a duck, to the hand of God picking one man to rule over a whole bunch of people who have no say in the matter. All the Australians at the table laughed.The English producers shuffled uncomfortably and one said "But we do it well, don't we." To which all the Australians felt the discomfort and politely agreed that England does do pomp and circumstance very well.I added that Harry Potter was also done very well, took my drink and left.So — Happy Coronation Weekend to those who celebrate.On the podcast this week we have some great fearmongers. 🏃‍♀️Australian Athletic Legend, Erchana Murray-Bartlet.🎙 Comedian and broadcaster, Craig Quartermaine💨 Former vaper, Lewis Hobba.💸Persephone Fraser from Australian EthicalWe cover the Coronation, Beetaloo Basin, Vaping, the AI coup, and the Budget.We're taking a few weeks off the podcast, but we'll be putting the odd video out on Patreon.Next week on the feed you'll hear from News Fighters.CheersDanDepartment of DisinterestReserve Bank Australiahttps://twitter.com/ARationalFear/status/1654024492824555523 🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearHeading into the election your support is going to be more crucial than ever!Thank you FEARMONGERS!If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261 If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
35:5005/05/2023
Kiwis Now Welcome

Kiwis Now Welcome

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G’day Fearmongers,To celebrate the start of the Sydney Comedy Festival we put the RØDECaster Pro II in a duffle bag and headed to the Factory Theatre courtyard. One of the only arts venues in Sydney which boasts a commercial airliner flying overhead every 10 minutes. It’s their version of an “Applaud Now” sign.With a beer and a plate of jerk chicken in hand, I was joined by Two Hearts’ Joseph Moore, and Heath Franklin not just to promote their SCF shows, but to laugh in the face of the most awful news we could find.🏡 Tasmania’s housing crisis solution🏟 Tasmania’s AFL team name.👶🏼 Muffin Break employees.🚀 Elon’s projectile dysfunction.🇳🇿 Kiwis eligible for Australian citizenship after 4 years.Go see Heath and Two Hearts at the Sydney Comedy Festival, they’re terrific.🎟 See Heath Franklin at the Sydney Comedy Festival.🎟 See Two Hearts at the Sydney Comedy Festival.CheersDan IlicFox NewsHuman Resources 🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/ If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
28:4928/04/2023
McBride's secret strategy.

McBride's secret strategy.

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/👨🏼‍⚖️ David McBride's Legal FundG’day Fearmongers —As we head into the long weekend known as Australian Halloween, ANZAC Day, I thought we should chat with a former solider who represents Australians at their best.David McBride is up for a jail sentence of ‘UNLIMITED YEARS’ after he blew the whistle on astonishing accounts of misconduct and warcrimes by Australian special Forces in Afghanistan.He did this six years ago — 2017!He’s been in legal limbo ever since.But now he’s forced the Australian Defence Force into court in November, and will have his moment to show he was just, and right to release the information he did.In this conversation McBride and I chat about:Tactics and strategy in the court room.If media will be allowed inside his trial.Why he's losing weightHow he finds joy in this very stressful time.And his laugh — is it real?This episode is followed up by one of favourite live shows from last year, our live show on Australian Secrecy on stage at the Festival Of Dangerous Ideas.It's one of our best — and a reminder around ANZAC Day that there are Some soliders who are fighting the good fight, that need our support.Chip into help David McBride and his legal fees here.CheersDan🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/ If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:30:2621/04/2023
Tim Smith's (Fence) Cover Up — Melbourne International Comedy Festival 2023

Tim Smith's (Fence) Cover Up — Melbourne International Comedy Festival 2023

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/G'day Fearmongers —Thanks to the 300 or so of you who came out the the show at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival — it was such a great vibe.Gabbi BoltSami ShahGrace TameLewis HobbaNats What I ReckonVidya RajanLewis Hobbaand me (Dan Ilic)DJ Andy McClellandWe cover the great gamete of crucial topics — Gwyneth Paltrow, Murdoch's Minions, U2, Donal Trump, AI, Cops, and we interview the owners of the house that Tim Smith ran into. They were so traumatised by the event that they want to get rid of the famous temporary fence they put in place whilst waiting for Tim Smith to pay the bills. You may have already seen on social media.already that we made a fancy sketch, and am auctioning it off on eBay with proceeds going to the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre — it's already up to $3500! If you chip-in on Patreon — THANKS for supporting A Rational Fear — your support meant we could pay for that Chappaquiddick Fence sketch, and for it to be framed too. It's an expensive sketch!We also used a chunk of the Patreon money to pay for sponsorship on Triple R radio to advertise the Melbourne show, and another chunk of it to pay for a poster campaign.It's times like this that an extra chunk of money really helps off set the Ludicrous expenses of running a festival show like this.Thanks so much for your support! If you'd like to pay a little bit chip in here:https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear 🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/ If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
54:3607/04/2023
LIVE PODCAST: Cookers, Planets, and Gas. OH MY! — Brisbane — Mandy Nolan, Mark Humphries, Mel Buttle, Lewis Hobba, Dan Ilic + Dr. Jessie Christiensen

LIVE PODCAST: Cookers, Planets, and Gas. OH MY! — Brisbane — Mandy Nolan, Mark Humphries, Mel Buttle, Lewis Hobba, Dan Ilic + Dr. Jessie Christiensen

🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNEG'day Fearmongers —Be sure to buy a ticket to the Melbourne show THIS SUNDAY — April 2ndFailing that — In your feed this week, we have the live show we did last weekend at the World Science Festival In Brisbane.It was one of our best live shows — the podcast doesn’t do it justice. If you were there and you’re listening back, you’ll notice a lot of the visual jokes have been disappeared like a Russian business man from a seven story building.But — thanks to Jacob Round on the teppanyaki timeline, you have a wonderful audio experience.On the podcast we have an elite squad of fearmongers:From left to right in the picture that you can see in the Substack newsletter: https://arationalfear.com/👽 Dr. Jessie Christiensen🧮 Mel Buttle💿 Dj Dylan Behan💨 Dan Ilic🕺🏻 Mark Humphries🌲 Mandy Nolan🌕 Lewis HobbaIt was a terrific show — for nearly 90 minutes (the podcast is about 60) we shot the science shi💩t, talked about the harmful effects of Gas, if we really need Maths and Science, we all sat a science exam, we looked at cookers in the Northern Rivers, we hunted Aliens, and spoke about mines on the Moon (again).Enjoy the show — and come to our Melbourne show TOMORROW (April 2nd 2023)— we spent a lot of money on the poster. (Sorry, that was the last reminder)CheersDan IlicProfessor of Breaking EvenMelbourne Comedy Festival 🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE  If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
54:1131/03/2023
Trapping Trump — Alice Tovey, Laura Hughes, Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, David Attenborough

Trapping Trump — Alice Tovey, Laura Hughes, Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba, David Attenborough

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN BRISBANEGuest Fearmongers on A Rational Fear this week include:Alice Tovey 🎟 Performing at MICF in Not Like Other GhoulsLaura Hughes 🎟 Performing at MICF in Laura Hughes Presents: Laura Hughes, Laura Hughes and some other Laura HughesesOn this episode we talk:🌏 David Attenborough reads the IPCC report.🪧 Nazis in Melbourne.🎃 Trump's Arrest.🌝 Samsung replacing the moon. 🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN BRISBANE 0:00  This podcast is supported in part by Australian ethical. Good evening, Lewis.0:05  Hello, Daniel. How are you?0:07  I'm good. I'm good. And you sound good. You look good. You. You look taller. For some reason. I don't know. Maybe it's my screen. Maybe my screen is higher than usual.0:16  Yeah, I don't believe I've grown. But it will be thrilling if I had it would kick me over from just like regular tall until weirdly tall.0:24  Well, our Patreon subscribers are growing this week, we grew by one so big thank you to Sam Arnold, who joined up on Patreon. We've got a few of you now. And now I'm, I'm Louis. I don't know if this is rude of me to say this to our audience. But I want to get a few more because I want to hire an assistant. Oh, because if you've ever thought about supporting the podcast ship into the Patreon, it's you know, the price of a cup of coffee these days, like even less, like we've kept our prices the same. And coffee has gone up sky high. Like yeah,0:54  it's easy to keep your price the same when it's zero.0:58  Yeah, that's it. That's it. So if you've ever thought about to begin, please head on over to Patreon and chip in and that way we can employ someone younger, smarter, funnier to do most of the work that I don't have time to do.1:10  Oh, now I feel threatened. What? Yeah, you you feel threatened1:14  and you work at the Youth broadcaster? You've got younger, smarter and funnier people around you all day long.1:19  That's true. But what are you actually going to do with this assistant? Because I have to admit, if you're asking for money, you know, it's not exactly like you're curing cancer here begging for an assistance. I feel like you might need to give us some more information.1:30  They're going to be you know, writing writing the podcast notes publishing the podcast. They're going to be organising guests. There's a whole I've got a list of things to do. It's very exhausting to make a whole podcast.1:43  Oh, I mean, I can only assume that's why I don't do anything.1:48  I don't know that you and your fancy producers at the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.1:54  That singular one single producer.1:57  Okay, very good. And give her your cell phone. Of course. Yeah. Well, that's good. Anyway, have you met? Do you know anyone2:06  who's looking for an underpaid job? Yeah, dude, everyone at the ABC? Yeah, well,2:11  great. Well, we pay more than the ABC so I'm recording my end of irrational feet on Gadigal Land of the Euro nation's sovereignty was devastated. We need a treaty. Let's start the show. The following2:22  programme contains medium coarse language and traces of nuts. A rational fear recommends listening by immature audiences. Comedians experts laughing at2:34  the world as it burns down2:37  around. This is2:43  a rational fear.2:47  Tonight and Australian Army helicopter has crashed into Jarvis Bay, the Defence Minister said it's the closest thing we'll get to a new submarine until the 2040s. And with the New South Wales election just days away, Premier Dominic Paris, he regrets that he and his wife could have made a few more voters in time for election day. And after already using code red and time bomb in order to describe the IPCC report. You're not a nation of bits that analogies to climate change are an endangered species. It's the 24th of March 2023. And this is a rational fear3:19  is a rational fear.3:32  Working irrational fear, I'm your host, former Labour Party Bus Driver Daniel itch and this is the podcast that makes Aaron Sorkin newsroom look a bit like a documentary. Let's make our fear mongers for tonight. Guests. Number one. They're one of Australia's best Laura Hughes's. They'll go by the name of Laura Hughes and they'll be joined on stage at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival with several other Laura Hughes's it's the one and only well actually turns out one of many Laura Hughes's. Welcome to the podcast Laura yours.3:59  Thanks for having me.4:01  Laura. Just how many Laura Hughes's are going to be in your show in Melbourne. They are4:06  going to be seven including myself. But 1000s4:12  actually Googled you to find your bio today and I went I went to Laura here's Comdata you I found a Laura Hughes who is like a corporate coaches who helps you think of mindset growth and all that stuff.4:22  There's so many Laura uses they fought me there's one that paedophile and that's the worst one for me. I get a lot of emails from4:36  God Oh, dear. Do you have you're working with children? Check Laura.4:41  I have so many I'm ready. I didn't even work with children but I was like I need it just4:47  to go around and knock on everyone's door when you move into a neighbourhood and just go I'm not that lower here. Exactly.4:55  And then Melbourne Comedy Festival show, not like other girls refuse is to have a pun in the title is The horrifically and musically gifted hours Toby Hello us you are mixing horror and cabaret in your festival show are you worried it could be too spooky?5:11  It's gonna be a real Fright Fest day and I hope that you love jaunty jingles the scariest thing of all.5:18  You know me. I love Georgia, because Louis will tell you how much I love everyone. He didn't go.5:22  He you're a gentle man. He loves he's a little jingle boy. And it's sufferable5:28  I love also Louis. It's the first time we've been on the podcast together. Usually we can't be in the same room at the same time. This is so lovely.5:35  It's really nice. I'm just waiting for one of our internet's to fall apart. But for now, let's let it ride. Yes.5:42  And if you want to learn how to be rich, our next guest will tell you how to do that. And his comedy special at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Golden Handshake. It's Louis Harbour.5:51  Oh, that's true. Yeah. Okay. That's right. Exactly. One day before irrational fear hits the stage at the Melbourne Comedy Festival. I'll be doing a live comedy show at the Melbourne town hall with my friend Michael hing. It will be very silly. I assume.6:07  I was just going from the coffee off the website I6:09  assumed you at least wrote what you were planning to do. You know how it is at the Comedy Festival show you you send in something and then you're right to that.6:18  So did you say on hand shake or handshape ham sham che6:22  Alice? Honestly, insane things you need to know to listen to our radio show. If you haven't listened to it before don't bother starting now. I would say it's just it's we're so deep into a bunch of insane storylines that it would take too long on peak where the last of daytime radio.6:42  There is a lot of in jokes. There's a lot of you can kind of catch up at any point though, Louis, like I dip in and out when I'm driving around town. And I'm like, oh, yeah, back on the ham stuff. That's good.6:51  Yeah, yeah. Well, at one point, he just decided that it would be funny to say, congratulations, you've won yourself a ham. But he's a vegetarian. He doesn't know how much ham costs so much so much. He's like, so let's just give away a ham every week. And I was like, that's gonna bankrupt the ABC. So we gave away one ham to one person. The ABC legal thing was so insane. They were like, what if someone wins it who's like Jewish or Muslim who doesn't eat ham? It's like well, then we might send them the ham.7:19  Plus, you got to be in the pockets and feed but Toki you can't have that.7:24  And now we just made like 1000s of Golden Handshake earrings that we give away anyway, it's a nightmare. No one on this podcast cares.7:31  It's a whole thing. Coming up later, after inviting both Chris Mullins and Dominic paradise on the podcast and receiving very polite knows we are joined instead by independent candidate for the Northern Beaches. Jackie screwby will ask her how insular is her Peninsula. But first, a message from this week's sponsor.7:48  A rational fear and audible presents David Attenborough reading the AR six report from the IPCC uncensored, unplanned and unhinged human activities, principally through emissions of greenhouse gases have unequivocally caused global warming. You see, I told you I fucking told you ordered No. Here the moment the BAFTA award winning naturalists brain explodes with global surface temperatures reaching 1.1 degrees centigrade. How many fucking documentaries do I need to fucking make? experienced the frustration of someone who's given their life to the pursuit of truth in the face of unbridled capitalism, deep, rapid and sustained reductions in greenhouse gas emissions would lead to a discernible slowdown in global warming within around two decades discernible. I'll be dead in two fucking decades. How about I give you all a discernible reduction in me. It's what could be David Attenborough's last great audio book. Oh, fuck it. That's it. I'm getting into crypto fuck all of your pitches. Now available on Audible. Download the app and start listening today.9:02  David Attenborough. Excellent. This week's first fear Nazis turfs and the Liberal Party expulsions. Oh, my What is it with Melbourne and Nazis? This is the weather maybe the Yeren reminds them of the Rhine or maybe it's the unbearable levels of racial tolerance. But in a very confused scene on the weekend, Nazis joined anti trans protesters who were joined by trans rights protesters who were not joined by anyone trying to catch the 86 tram anywhere because there's no way they could and on top of it, the baddies in this case the anti trans protesters were upset that the police led even worse baddies Nazis into their protest hours. What the hell is happening in Melbourne?9:40  Oh my goodness, it's such an upsetting and hateful story. This person Posie Parker Parker Posey, already appropriating the name of a queer icon is a hate crime. But a bunch of turfs turned up to Parliament and they've kind of created this thing that where they say trans people, they're so dangerous. They should be all just eradicated. They also say that trans people don't exist. So they've created Schrodinger as queer. And they've gone and protested that it's just super frustrating, especially the cops that turned up as well who allowed the Nazis to march through the streets if you've not seen the footage, it's horrific, but the excuse that they gave to the protesters was all I'm just doing my job, which is like a fine excuse. If you're a Subway sandwich artist who's been told to just use schnitzel instead of bread because they slipped to an extra fibre but not if you're defending Nazis. That's not alright.10:30  It's also just like such a hair's breadth from I was just following orders, which of course, famously from the Nazis.10:37  Absolutely, it was10:39  it's weird that the police just thought it was part of the anti trans protesters10:42  and if it's weird that the cops let the Nazis in AKA a lot of their friends10:50  but it's so but it is weird because you know, they're not dressed like anti trans protesters. They're dressed like the they've come from. They're like they got out of bed from their pyjamas. They're like all in black.11:00  Yeah, they're in black shorts shorts, which is yeah, I didn't think that hot pants with a Nazi uniform, which like, credit where credit's due I love a good hot pan but not on a Nazi.11:10  It was almost indistinguishable from a lady gaga backup dancer it's terrifying genuinely like you kind of like it's always crazy when you like the Nazis are back. What what are we doing the Nazis11:24  it's interesting in that Victoria seems to be like the home of Nazism. In Australia. For some reason. There's been long reporting about right wing radicals hanging out in the Grampians chanting anti Jewish sentiment. And there seems to be a huge rise like over the last 10 years like a 320% rise in right wing plot attacks and violence like direct direct Skype threats to the Australian people like the Nazis are for all intents and purposes. You know, the new al Qaeda in Australia. The AFP are really deeply concerned about this right.11:56  Do you think it's the weather? It's just the most similar to Germany?11:59  Could be Yeah, can you just Nick,12:03  you can't wear those uniforms in Queensland. Like if the further you get to the closer you get to the equator, you just you can't wear an overcoat it doesn't work. I mean, yeah, as you're saying I was there were Nazis in shorts. He was the only one who you weren't scared of like all the other Nazis you like, these guys are fucking Nazis. He like well, that guy's Nazis in shorts. We can hit his knees. Fuck that guy. He's easy.12:24  I'm not scared of men as long as I can see their carbs but I'm just hoping that what these protests highlight is the absurdity of transphobia because when you have literal Nazis on your side, like Sikh hireling and stuff, you're on the wrong side team, but you can't dress it up in whatever faux feminism you want. This is bad stuff.12:45  The turfs were there going on? Oh, we weren't with the Nazis. I mean, like, just visually, clearly they were with the Nazis. But in a world where the Nazis were getting attacked by the anti turf protesters and the Turks themselves, then the Nazis would have been fighting a war on two fronts. Historically,13:08  a bit like q&a on crack. This is a rational fear.13:16  This week second fear any moment a former president could be arrested for using campaign funds to buy the silence of a porn star he had sex with once Yes, Donald Trump could be arrested at some point this week. We don't know one we don't know when it's you know, it's been he tweeted on Tuesday that it could happen any moment now. So that whole world has been on tenterhooks. This all goes back to when Donald Trump use $130,000 of campaign finance funnelled through his lawyer, Michael Cohen, to pay the silence of stormy Daniels and it all kind of comes down to a bit of paperwork. Yeah, it could be along the lines that you know, kind of paying off reimbursing Michael Cohen through like a dodgy invoice or something like this. Yeah. What is going on here with Donald Trump?14:01  It's very exciting. I feel like that almost been arresting him for years now. But it feels like it's getting closer. Maybe fingers crossed for everyone. But my favourite part is the unhinged part about him, like tweet will true thing about it on his stupid little website. And the fact that there's been all these like deep fake videos about it and people already putting out deep fake videos of him on the way to jail. And I feel like that's how he found out like he saw a video thought he saw a glimpse into the future. And that's why he truths about it. Like that's why he tweeted about it. About14:39  ask like this whole arrest over appropriating campaign funds doesn't just seem a little bit quaint with everything else he's done.14:45  It does. I mean, I feel like this is going to be the first they try and get him on anything. They're desperate. But the stressful thing is that even if he gets arrested, he can still become president because the laws are different over then, like so he can Jelly15:00  exotics running for president now. So anyone can do it.15:04  In Australia, you can run for parliament if you've been convicted of a crime, but in America, you can, you know, apparently he could do it from jail like he can actually run as president and become president from jail if he wants to.15:15  If he does go to prison in the sort of Al Capone sands, you know, if they just get him on campaign finance fraud, but if he's there, I hope he doesn't run for president. I hope he shoots another season of The Apprentice. Can you? Donald Trump day block. I mean, I'm here with Cyrus the virus, Snake Eyes, and got it. Oh, Pete. And the challenge this week, see how many mobile phones you can sneak through15:42  all that, Louis? How are they going to send him to prison? They can't cop him. His hands are so tiny. You'll slip I just thought it was funny on the footage in New York this week at the front of Trump Tower that they were just like five people with bullhorn horns, which means they're one shy away from a netball team if they exclude the wing attack.16:05  Yeah, that was after he called for the protest and five people showed up so much of a threat.16:11  Just Rudy Rudy Giuliani out there with a bunch of oranges going here. If you need Donald here, if you need16:18  rational fear, it is the end of the world. You might as well laugh about it.16:27  This week's third fear unless it's going to destroy the world. We don't often talk about technology on this podcast. But you know, chat GBT, we've spoken a little bit about this week, Samsung has revealed that it has been replacing things in people's photos namely the moon, I read it user did an experiment where he printed out printed off the moon he made it really blurry in Photoshop, printed it out, stuck it on the wall and took a photo of it with his camera. So it looked nothing like the moon. But the AI inside the Samsung camera automatically replaced that picture with a picture of the moon. Samsung is just going around replacing the moon in everyone's pictures,17:02  saying Dan is that they? Yes defied the moon.17:08  What else should Samsung replace if they're replacing the moon? You know, does this give them licence and other tech companies licence to replace other things in your pictures? What if you wanted a picture of a really blurry thing, but you couldn't get it?17:22  Wow, I didn't know why. And why are they doing that? Because they just think that Moons look a bit shit.17:27  But no, because they can so and the The amazing thing is that the one side of the Moon faces the Earth at all times. So no matter where you are on the planet, whenever you look up at the moon, it's going to be the same image of the moon. So if you're trying to take a photo of the moon if you're if you're the kind of person that sees the moon and wants to zoom in and get a shot of the moon, Samsung will just replace the moon with a really crispy picture of the moon.17:50  What about what about the blood moons?17:52  Do they have those on file? I don't know. I don't know. That's their you know, that's my question.17:56  What about if I pull my pants down in front of the camera? Well, I replace me with a stump but18:04  I don't need to get enough craters for your but18:08  I'm happy for them to replace pictures of me. I take the worst photos so I'm like, give me a glow up since on the show many18:15  of you they just put another law of using that it'd be18:20  I regret the name of my show.18:26  It would just be nice if they could replace photos of my parents with one of them looking proud of my career choice. It's a joke. I love you mom and dad. You're great.18:35  It is a joke. Alice Toby's career is going really well. She's you know, she's she works on everyone's TV shows we're very proud of here at irrational fear.18:43  Do we know what year Samsung was founded? Was it in 1969? Because it is possible. They were complicit in the faking?18:53  Thank you for being brave enough to say,18:56  thinking we're all thinking,18:59  what kind of podcast would we be if we didn't have at least one conspiracy theory.19:05  We'd have more listeners if we had more conspiracy theory.19:08  If you just ate some of the elk meat that I send you, this podcast would be one of the biggest in Australia.19:17  Samsung, unfortunately was founded 85 years ago 193819:22  That proves my theory, it's entirely possible that they would ever 196919:27  Also think about how long it took James Cameron to develop the technology for Avatar to it is totally reasonable that it took to the 30s till the 60s to fake a moon landing.19:36  But why did the footage look so shit? In the 60s?19:39  Yeah, well, yeah, how come Samsung didn't replace it with better footage19:43  yet? Where were the Navi on the moon19:47  theory debunked.19:48  I'll be back with a new one next week.19:50  Oh, we need it. i It kind of begs the question like What is a picture19:54  when the AI photos came out? You when that lens or AI thing came out? Did you guys give it a go? Did you give yourself With a little glow up in the in the AI No, I made I'm beautiful. Beautiful. You all broke the AI. They were like, We have to make her less beautiful.20:08  Do you remember the day that Samsung was down? That was my face? Sorry.20:14  I didn't because it costs money. So I was like, oh, nothing's smart. That's20:20  on Paul shouldn't have to pay for a face like you've got to face.20:23  Exactly do it for free to robot. Why am I paying a robot?20:27  That's a good point. I mean, I would buy a Roomba, but that's different, I guess. Did you guys do it? Did you? Yeah, absolutely kidding me. I'm so vain. I wake up in the morning was like, why does it run the clock? And why haven't I done it yet? And then I did it all day.20:42  What do you like astronauts? Astronauts? Yeah,20:46  like mythical figure. There was. There were like, I would say, it felt a bit like they had just googled, like, white guy, brown hair glasses. And then they just fused me with a bunch of other. Like, there was a few where I looked a bit like Adam Scott, the actor, which was quite nice. But then there was somewhere I looked like, I would say, someone who founded a yoga studio in 1978, and had since been in prison for 40 years. But the things I did to the people in my yoga studio in the 70s, like, really just like, skinny, and like really long arms, but kind of like piercing eyes, like just like a six pack. But it made me look like a an AI sex pest. And it made me question myself, because on that, once you see the scales of what you can be, like, on one hand, I could be a loved actor, Adam Scott, who I think is wonderful. On the other hand, I could be a sex past. And then you can kind of see both of those versions of yourself going forward and every day. And I guess it gave me the sort of Laura Hughes paradox. Like I didn't really know who I was. So I decided not to ever do it again.21:51  I think it makes a beautiful cult leader Louis, you really you have called me to potential.21:55  Do you know when I was a kid, when people asked would ask me what I wanted? That's That's what I told them. That's not22:00  are you serious? Yeah. Yeah.22:05  Do you have like some kind of merchandise? Or do you do like a Eucharist? What would you do like a Eucharist? Oh, like, Oh, it's a Catholic process of sharing your body as a bread?22:21  Would I be mixed? Yes. No, no.22:25  Do you have a harem?22:26  Why do you get into why did you get into the cult game? If it's not to be a slot? I don't understand anyone who's like a good cult leader. Like why did you bother just go to work?22:35  It's the same thing as like a social football team. It's just nice to hang out with people.22:42  And have them do your bidding. I had22:43  some friends who made a documentary about cults in Australia once and we were having a beer. I was like, what was like the funniest story about the cults. And they were like, Oh, it was pretty funny. There was this woman who went to like a health thing like a health fair in Byron Bay. And they, she met this person who ended up getting them into a cult, and this woman was like, I'm the second coming of Jesus. And she ended up getting involved in this cult. But there were only three people in the cult. It was her the cult leader and one other follower. And eventually, the other follower left. So it was just her and the second coming of Jesus. And then eventually, after like two or three years, the woman was like, What are you still doing here? I'm clearly not the Second Coming of Jesus. And then the leader left the cult. So the only person left in the Gulf. And she was like, Oh, I've been in a cult. I've been in a fight.23:35  Ah, yeah, that would be me. I would be the second coming of Jesus and I would get frustrated with my own shitty cars. What23:44  are you doing here? Here all your fear is rational.23:50  just pausing the podcast here, Louis, do you think Samsung's efforts to replace people's real moons with the fake Moon is pretty ethical.23:58  I don't really know if it matters enough to be ethical or unethical. It's just a weird thing.24:04  Well, I just want to pause the podcast here just to talk a little bit about Australian ethical. They are a big financial firm. They've been going since 1986. And they've been looking after people's money in really ethical ways. So they haven't been replacing it with pictures of fake money like Samsung would do. They've been you know, putting it in stuff like low carbon businesses, renewable energy. They definitely don't invest in things like fossil fuels. They look after companies that are part of the solution. Not part of the problem, though, is I'm thrilled24:31  and very excited to be partnering with Australian ethical. I think last week we mentioned I saw them in the news. I saw them in a guardian headline, I was like, Oh no. Who have we saddled ourselves with? And then it was like, Oh no, they're divesting from a bad company who was gonna kill a bunch of koalas and I'm like, Ah, a superannuation company in the news for the right reasons.24:53  What year is this? That company has LED lights a company we've spoken a bit about on this podcast, so yeah, well, darkness Try Nesco keep it up and thank you for sponsoring a rational fear25:06  this is a rational fear.25:10  I looks like Jackie's group has got better things to do before three days before the election so good on her. She's not coming on rational fear tonight. Let's wrap it up so big thanks to everyone who joined us on irrational fear Louis harbour Alice Toby. Laura Hughes. Alice, what would you like to plug?25:25  Yes, I'm doing a show called not like the other girls at the Melbourne Comedy Festival and the Sydney Comedy Festival. So if you head to Alice toby.com You can book some tickets it opens next Thursday. It's going to be very silly. Looking forward25:37  to Laura Hughes.25:39  I'm doing a show with the worst title on the in the world. And I regret every day. Laura Hughes presents and it's from the 10th of April to the 16th at the butterfly club.25:53  Doing only doing one week at the festival that is the sign that is a veteran that is a veteran who's seen some shit.26:01  That's someone who's died before it was like a month get locked. Much I play a lot of characters so I think I would be dead if I did the whole month.26:11  I've seen the show and it's very very, very funny. Louis would you like to?26:15  Well, obviously there's a rational fear second of April. Huge lineup still ticking the Capitol Theatre. I mean, it's beautiful. Wear a suit. Dress up? What a lie. Yeah,26:25  yeah, please wear a suit. Will you wear a suit if you wear a suit? I'll wear so.26:29  Fuck it. Yeah, I'll wear a suit. Yeah, all right. Yeah, so isn't that funny? When you're like, work such joke jobs that putting on a suit is like our moment is comedy. I've only got one.26:45  Dress up as one of your AI characters.26:48  Oh, fuck. I I know. We're still recording but afterwards, I'll send you the next best one.26:56  Try and try not to send as try not to send it over a carriage service.27:02  I can't believe what they did to me. They did me so dirty. So yes, come to irrational fear. Also, if you just eaten Melbourne the weekend and you're like, Ah, no, no, no, it's lawless. I am doing a show at the town hall the night before with my friend Michael hang. It's called Golden Handshake. And then the week after that, if you're like God, I've seen Lewis twice. Love to do it a third time be doing the great debate. Which is really exciting on27:25  Easter Sunday. That's really exciting. Do you know who you're doing it with?27:30  I don't I find out tomorrow. Well today by the time this podcast goes out so I'm I'm really excited. It's really fun. I'd loved loved watching them since I was a kid and like I think debating was like the first time I ever wrote a joke. So I'm really excited to Louis you are27:44  you are built for that. That's gonna be great. I'm finally27:47  being built for that was profitable.27:51  I look forward to you putting in a sterling effort to irrational fear.27:56  You know, I will that's the first thing Yeah,27:59  it's the first thing Have you written Have you written your piece yet? Yeah, we've28:01  got another rational people for them to do. No, I fucking haven't written the second one Jesus.28:08  Yes. If you're listening to this right now you're probably listening. Around the time we are performing on stage at the at the Q PAC at somehow at the World Science Festival in Brisbane this Sunday. You can still get tickets to that so please buy tickets for that and also the following week in Melbourne International Comedy Festival that is it for rational Phoebe thank you to rode mics Australian ethical our Patreon supporters Jacob brown on the teppanyaki timeline Rupert Degas who did that extraordinary David Attenborough. And until next week, there's always something to be scared of. Good night.Transcribed by https://otter.aiA Rational Fear on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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News Fighters: NSW Election: Two Awful Men!

News Fighters: NSW Election: Two Awful Men!

🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN BRISBANEThis month Dylan Behan takes an in-depth look at all the big NSW state election issues from boat ramps to cashless gaming cards to superannuation for kids and why neither major party will do anything to actual tackle the biggest cost of living issue in NSW: astronomical rents. Also we look at the two middle aged white men who are determined to promise to do as little as possible in order to get your vote this Saturday.🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN BRISBANEAnnouncer  0:01  This is News Fighters, where we fight the news so you don't have to.Dylan Behan  0:09  Yes, Hi everyone. Welcome to Episode 122 of news fighters for February 2023. If you haven't listened before News Fighters is an in depth yet comedic look at the big stories in Australian news, media and politics presented by me, TV comedy editing wizard and future AUKUS submarine captain Dylan Behan. Yes, thanks for joining us this month, once again on the A Rational Fear podcast feed. We had a great time with  A Rational Fear down in Adelaide at the Fringe Festival. Thanks to everyone who came out and saw us there and this weekend. We're at the Brisbane Science Festival on Sunday. Get your tickets now but,  a little bit south of the border, the New South Wales State election campaign feels like it's been in full swing for months now. And I'd totally understand if you haven't been paying attention to it because most of the policy announcements have been pretty uninspiring ones like this.Journalist  1:04  The premier was talking about water. He's hoping to hook voters with a $20 million promise to upgrade boating ramps and fishing facilities across the state.Dylan Behan  1:13  Yes in New South Wales 2023 will go down as the year of the boat ramp state election. Oh geez. This is the least interesting New South Wales State election I've covered and I've only covered two at least back in 2019. We had the spectacle of Labour leader Michael Daly's lucky meat pie Michael Daley  1:29  Before every election I've been doing it for 30 years are always gonna have my Lucky Piea pie and strawberry milk having my Lucky Pie.Journalist  1:37  What pie having Mr. Daley?Michael Daley  1:38   just a plain pie with strawberry milk is // eating a Lucky Pie for breakfast at a local shop // we opted for as usual fortifying election breakfast a pie and strawberry milk // For 30 years I had a Lucky Pie. No sauce  beef,Journalist  1:53  No Sauce? Are you feeling confident? Michael Daley  1:54  Terrific. I have my lucky pie Journalist  1:56  Hoping what he eats tonight. He's not humble pie.Dylan Behan  2:00  Anyway, strap yourselves in everyone because this episode I'm taking a deep dive into all the big issues in the current New South Wales State election campaign. And before I begin, I'm sad to announce that I just don't have time to recap the past 12 years of scandals that have plagued the O'Farrell embed then Berejiklian Imperator a coalition governments you know, you know, all the scandals, the you know, the pork barreling or the brand stalking or the cushy overseas jobs with the boys or the fact koalas are facing extinction or the pandemic lockdown measures that unfairly targeted poor and migrant communities or the cracked rail carriages, or the stuffing up of the bushfire recovery or the stuffing up of the flood recovery or the lockout laws that said our nightlife and art scenes back by generation, or the failure of the government to implement any of the recommendations from the special commission of inquiry into the drug is or the way they've used StrikeForce rapidly to intimidate musical acts and try and get them to change their lyrics or the shocking stories of the sharing of pornographic images of Parliamentarians by other parliamentarians. I just haven't got time for any of that. Besides, I'm sure it's probably already been covered by a friendly jordiz In a funny accent. No, I'm just going to assume you're up to speed with all the corruption and scandals and we're going to jump right in to the choices facing New South Wales voters this Saturday. So I hear you asking who are the contenders for the top job? Well, first of all, is the current Premier and former treasurer, conservative liberal party leader and Millennial in name only Dominic parity. And Isn't he good at talking up his own record? Well,Dominic Perrottet  3:23  we need to do better. Well, I've always said we've got to do better. Can we do more? Yes, he alsoDylan Behan  3:28  needs to do better on knowing the ages of his seven young children. Journalist  3:31  Mr. Perrottet name all seven of your kids in age order.Unknown Speaker  3:35  Just not their age, Charlotte Amelia. Annabel, William. Harriet. Beatrice. Celeste.Dylan Behan  3:46  I can barely afford to have a cat Perrottet has been premier for almost 18 months and he's reputations held up despite the fact that he admitted to wearing a Nazi uniform in his own 21st birthday party. Surprisingly, the Australian public were quite forgiving of this, leading to this amazing voxpop Journalist  4:04  What did you think of him before this? Man on the street  4:06  Well, he seemed like an upstanding member of the community. Right? Seven kids.Journalist  4:11  What do you think of him now?Man on the street  4:13  Seven kids in a Nazi uniform!Dylan Behan  4:14  Yes, that also sounds like potential movie collaboration between Nancy Meyers and Mel Brooks this holidays, get ready for the heartwarming romcom seven kids and a Nazi uniform and then there's Labour leader Chris Minns. Now if you haven't heard of him, don't worry, because neither has anyone elseJournalist  4:31  on a day when a small poll found the majority of voters in the labor leaders knife edge seat. Can't name him. Do you know who this man is?Unknown Speaker  4:40  No, I don't it's the Leader of the Opposition. I just can't remember his name and on top of my head Did you know this man?Unknown Speaker  4:47  He's the opposition leader opposition of New South Wales, Chris somethingDylan Behan  4:50  Yeah, no worries. Good luck with that. It's not like you said is the most marginal in the entire state anyways. Also, there's probably a good reason why people in the Chinese community didn't recognize him Journalist  5:00  Chris Minns has suffered a little lost in translation incident. Cantonese speakers pointing out. These characters when spoken aloud can also sound a lot like having to use a bathroom. Dylan Behan  5:12  Yeah, so finally, if any Liberal staffers are caught urinating on men's posters outside polling booths on election day, they've got an excuse. The poster told them to in Cantonese! now on to Chris Minns' campaign itself and it appears to be focused on one big issueChris Minns  5:26  No privatization under labour. // New South Wales Labour will never sell Sydney Water //no more reckless energy privatizations // Sydney Water is on the ballot at this election campaign // and we'll do it all without privatizing Sydney Water // There's no point selling your house to fund an upgrade of your driveway.Dylan Behan  5:44  Yes, and I think I speak for most people in Sydney when I say what's a driveway? Jeez, what's this guy's obsession with Sydney Water? Oh, that's right. It's the only asset left that hasn't been privatized under the last 12 years with the Liberals and fun fact I just discovered it turns out that humans need water to live I just discovered that thanks wiki pedia! Yes, it turns out men seems to be copying word for word Anthony Albanese is small target strategy where you don't promise anything very much and instead just say they've been in too long. Give us a go!Chris Minns  6:12  The premier of New South Wales leads a team that's been in power for 12 years and is asking for 16 years in office. Now that's a long period of time for a team whose best days are behind them. / They're asking for 16 years in power. Their best days are behind them and their most experienced leaders have already departed  // Our message to the people in New South Wales a straightforward vote for change.Dylan Behan  6:35  Yeah, it's pretty similar to Alba's pitch from last year. Anthony Albanese  6:38  Give us a crackDylan Behan  6:40  Speaking of Albanese. While Mr. Popularity Peter Dutton hasn't been seen anywhere on the New South Wales State election campaign trail. Albanese has been very visible making multiple appearances like this one.Journalist  6:50  Meanwhile, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese joined Labour leader Chris Mintz on the campaign trail. The pair went to a pub in Balmain. Before visiting unlike our childcare center,Dylan Behan  6:59  yes, they visited a pub then a childcare center and I think we have a clip of Albo at the childcare center here.Anthony Albanese  7:05  No, Chris means who will be a fantastic labour premier to have a majority on the floor of the Legislative Assembly.Dylan Behan  7:21  Oh, geez, maybe maybe switch to the light beers next time. Albo. Unfortunately Minns also appears to have stolen Scott Morrison's election campaign strategy of showing off his ship musical skills in public like he did here on the Kyle and Jackie O show. Chris Minns  7:35  Want a little bit of Acca Dacca  (plays guitar)Dylan Behan  7:44  Thanks Minzy that will fix the housing crisis. Oh, are we going with Minzy? Sorry, I didn't any satirists listening can you have we haven't heard I haven't got a memo we go with Minzy or something bit more Ozzy like Christo or are we gonna do a scomo thing and like first name last name it so it'd be like Cri-Mi. Cri...  creamy. Well, it will be his nickname. Anyways, the rising cost of living appears to be the single biggest issue for voters this election with rent, mortgages, power prices, groceries and transport costs, all eating up more and more of the weekly family budget. But don't worry, Chris Minns has a big planJournalist  8:23  Labor's big policy is to scrap the public sector wage cap, which currently limits pay rises to three and three and a half percent. And soChris Minns  8:30  we can strike a fair deal for essential workers right across New South Wales, we will remove the wages kept.Dylan Behan  8:38  Yes, this is great news for public service workers. This will help the public service hire and retain workers and help them with their cost of living issues. However, unless there's also a rent cap, I'm not sure how this isn't going to just keep feeding inflation and keep making housing and everything else more expensive for everyone has anyone thought this through. Meanwhile, power prices are also shaping up to be a huge election issue with no lead up insight.Journalist  9:02  Good evening, it's going to be a cold and costly winter for many in Sydney, with authorities flagging a 23% jump in power prices from July one the biggest increase ever.power prices are set for a steep increase of around 20%. Yes,Dylan Behan  9:17  electricity prices keep going up and up. But I think this pension has figured out a surefire way to beat the system.Journalist  9:23  90 year old reg has an easier path,Reg  9:26  With a bit of luck I'll die and won't have to worry about it at all.Dylan Behan  9:29  Yes, that's one way to beat the high living costs associated with late stage capitalism just stop living. Thankfully, both parties have a plan to bring power prices down and Labour's is to create a state owned Energy Corporation and well, won't it provide immediate relief.Chris Minns  9:47  I'm going to be honest with the people of New South Wales and say that the benefits of this policy will be felt six and seven years down the line and it's not possible for me to explain seven years they're gonna have to wait it's important that I get this out and Got to make sure that you've got firming power, particularly in relation to pumped hydro. Those projects take a lot of timeJournalist  10:06  on power bills in your state owned energy company. Seven years it'll take to have any impact on a family's energy bill. Seven years. Is that fair?Chris Minns  10:17  I think in context, it's the right policy for what we're facing today. And the voters are smart enough to say Labour's got a plan for long term energy reform in New South Wales. The liberal party has got a cash handout.Dylan Behan  10:28  Well, Chris Minns has a lot of faith in New South Wales voters they're thinking now prioritize long term structural reform over a quick sugar hit cash handout, which is exactly what Perrottet and the Liberals are proposing to try and fix power prices,Journalist  10:42  a half a billion dollar elections sweetener is now an offer worth $250 per household, just for looking at a website to compare power prices.And here's the important thing to note. You don't have to switch to get the discount. You just have to look,is it really responsible to be paying $250 to anyone just to Google their power provider?Dominic Perrottet  11:03  Absolutely. Because we want people to go online and see if they're on the best deal possible. Dylan Behan  11:07  Yes, that's right. The Liberals are going to give you a turn and $50 power price discount just for going on the internet. Finally an excuse for me being online all the time. Honey, are you looking at duck videos again on the internet, no honey just shopping around for power prices. (quack noises) Meanwhile, Labour's decided to match the $250 rebate but only offer it to a much smaller number of households in a much more targeted way.Journalist  11:34  Labour is promising the same amount, but to just half the households with only those on income support pensioners and seniors eligibleDylan Behan  11:42  Yes, labour of course, in typical labour fashion has completely forgotten about working poor people. But since when was the labor movement about working people anyways, that's what I want to know. Sorry, working poor people, you should have been even poor. Also on the cost of living crisis, the liberals have announced a policy to try and bring down the cost of groceries and that policy is to add more bureaucracy and just watch how good premiere parity was at selling it. At the channel line debate.Journalist  12:10  You have said that you will bring down grocery bills by appointing a new supply chain Commissioner. So for example, on a basket of groceries that costs $100, how much cheaper will that be? Well, we knowDominic Perrottet  12:22  Liz, in terms of the cost of inflation, that the one of the biggest impacts on that is supply chain costs. And so putting this commissioner in, I can't give you $1 figure on that. But what I do know what I do know is that we can get produce from port to plate faster and working with the industry that will put downward pressure on grocery prices across our state. Yes, DomDylan Behan  12:43  I'm sure those famously disorganized Fly By Night operators known as Coles and Woolworths don't know anything about logistics and have just been winging it the whole time. They definitely need some government help in this area. What the hell what what what will the supply chain Commissioner do anyways? Turn on the shaft signal to get toilet paper back on the shelves. Then we haven't even got to the Liberals big news signature cost of living policy they've announced this election, giving free money to rich babiesJournalist  13:13  An investment in children that will set up the next generation. That's how the premier describes his signature election promise of $400 per child. In an Australian first kids Future Fund,the government would deposit $400 To start the account. Each year parents can contribute up to $1,000. With the government matching contributions dollar for dollar up to $400. Assuming interest of 7% and regular parental contributions the fund could reach between $28,500.40 $9,000 By the time the child turns 18. Only then can they withdraw it to spend on either a house deposit or for skills and education like a university degree or TAFE course, children whose parents received Family Tax benefits would get an automatic $200 A year from the government.Dominic Perrottet  14:06  Reportedly, it furthers the central mission of our Liberal Party to spread equality of opportunity far and wide.Dylan Behan  14:15  Yes, that's right. And nothing spreads equality more equally like making sure already we'll have kids graduate high school with an extra 50 grand in their bank account to go towards paying off their hex earlier or get them on that property ladder sooner. Now that's real equality, Liberal Party style parity tried to sound empathetic when introducing this policy.Dominic Perrottet  14:35  Well, that is all about making sure that our children have greater opportunities than we do. Right now. It's the opposite. We burden our children with hex and housing debt before they even start. We're all worried about our kids capacity to be able to buy a home and also the cost of education.Dylan Behan  14:52  Yes, Dom If only somebody could do something about the massive sky high cost of housing and education in this state, if only so Somebody could do something. Yes the kids Future Fund policy is such a clearly bad policy favoring the rich. It even turns Sky News accidentally left wing.Journalist  15:10  What are these 18 year olds going to be doing with 10s of 1000s of dollars? I'm sorry, give it back to the government for their education apparently. Hope you get into the housing market to pay you $50,000 That might cover the state government's land tax or financial duties. That's outrageous.Dylan Behan  15:28  Yes in talking about the Liberals trying to patch over problems that they themselves created. They're also trying to win favor with toll road drivers and public transport patrons after years. Of increasesJournalist  15:39  the premier making a promise to cut the opal cap from 50 to $40 a week saving almost $500 a year.Some cash flow relief is coming for half a million motorists across Sydney with road toll rebates offering up to $750 back Dominic Perrottet  15:56  and we want to use our financial strength to help budgets right across New South Wales,Dylan Behan  16:01  Perrottet is so brazen are trying to fix the problems that his party created. That I'm amazed his election slogan isn't something like a vote Liberal this state election because only the Liberals can bring down the high prices that the Liberals are responsible for. Well, at least Sydney public transport is going to be capped at $40 a week if the Liberals win because this is a public transport system definitely worth paying money for Good eveningJournalist  16:24  Sydney's transport systems are in chaos tonight. Sydney's entire train network was brought to a standstill today leaving 1000s of passengers stranded. How are you going to get home tonight?Commuter  16:35  I don't know. Journalist  16:36  The entire rail network was shut down when communications failed, Commuter  16:41  They cann't keep doing this door off. We're paying our faresJournalist  16:44  live wires fell onto the train trapping more than 500 passengersCommuter  16:48  I have been working for 50 years and I've never seen it this bad it's an absolute joke. Journalist  16:53  People have been forced to wait hours for trains Commuter  16:57  Two times this week I've missed shifts and that's money out of my paycheck Journalist  17:00  so people are being told to avoid train travel if they can but good luck if you can find another way home // commuters advise to delay travel if they can maybe stay in town for a beer Commuter  17:11  Absolutely crap!Dylan Behan  17:12  Yes What a group of satisfied customers Sydney public transport communities are the official slogan of Sydney trains should just be go to the pub instead. imagine any other service or product where this counts as a good review. Commuter  17:24  Absolutely crap. Dylan Behan  17:26  Thank you for your compliment, sir. Can we use it in the new Sydney trains advertising campaign? Meanwhile, Labour's election winning infrastructure strategy is that they're going to build less infrastructure because you know, Sydney isn't growing at all and everything works perfectly all the time.Journalist  17:39  A major tunnel project through the Blue Mountains would be scrapped under a Chris Minns premiership as labour seeks to tighten spending it adds to a growing list of government projects Labour will shelve including a metro from Westmead to the aerotropolis. Raising Warragamba Dam wall and the Northern BeachesChris Minns  17:58  are not going to sell essential assets in New South Wales to build infrastructure. Now the premier has a $50 billion infrastructure plan that is completely unfunded.Dylan Behan  18:08  Yeah, it might be completely unfunded now, but have you seen the cost of public transport in the city? No, those new metros will be paid off in no time anyways, maybe Chris means is right. And we can't actually afford to build any more infrastructure. But personally, I can't really afford to put up with the infrastructure the way it is at the moment. I have to allow three hours a day to commute to a job 12 kilometers away if we don't build any more infrastructure in this state, me and everyone I know I just got to move to Tasmania and live in a tree house and eat bugs because that's better for my mental health than dealing with Sydney public transport on a daily basis. Anyways, at least Labour has said they're going to do something for drivers by introducing a $60 a week toll cap you know, finally getting those toll costs down to a much more manageable $3,000 a year for just driving in Sydney. But even that comes with strings and more bureaucracy attached.Journalist  19:00  You're giving truckies and trainees of rebate to drive on the M5 and the M8. What about truckies who used the M7 to m4 they don't matter.Chris Minns  19:11  Now they do matter. And I'd love to do more. It's one of the reasons where we're appointing Professor Allan Fels to do a full review of tolls in New South Wales.Dylan Behan  19:19  Oh perfect. A total review reviews always work great. Just look at all the high speed rail lines Australia has now after 30 years of nonstop reviews. Oh and speaking of proposed reviews that are intended to achieve absolutely nothing that's also Labour's answer to the government's proposed cashless gaming card for pokies.Journalist  19:39  The coalition has promised to make poker machines in pubs and clubs cashless by 2028 Labour has committed to a trial of cashless gaming on 500 of the state's 90,000 machinesChris Minns  19:50  In relation to capitalist gaming in New South Wales. We'll have a trial of 500 machines and an independent panel that will make a recommendation to the New South Wales Government in short, Alex If it works, we'll do it. But I want to make sure that when we pursue policy in New South Wales, we know that it will work and my reluctance in relation to this and the need to have evidence based processes in place is because it's in operation in only one place around the world. And that's in Norway is partJournalist  20:17  of this about trying to avoid a powerful campaign against the Labour Party from the club lobby?Chris Minns  20:23  is Mis, Dylan Behan  20:24  Yes, he's not afraid just because registered clubs donated over $400,000 to the New South Wales Labour Party between 2011 and 2021 doesn't mean Chris Minns isn't going to stand up to them. Yes. In fact, Labour's attitude to the cashless gaming card is a bit like if your flatmate proposed that the flat had a housework schedule, so the house was clean. And you're like, "look, this everyone cleaning the house on a schedule thing hasn't been proven to work anywhere or arrived. I propose a four week shared housework trial, and then we can get an independent panel to rule whether having a house work schedule is right for this house. Just because Norway has it doesn't mean it'll work here alright". Mind you. It turns out Chris Minns might not wind up having a choice on the cashless gaming card. Because if Labour is in a minority position, and they need to do a deal with the greens to form government, well, it's going to be conditional on their support.Cate Faehrmann  21:16  The Greens will also be seeking a commitment to a mandatory statewide cashless gambling card for our support. Just to be clear, we won't settle for half measures. And we won't be fooled by a trial that has been set up to fail. Yeah, isn't it funnyDylan Behan  21:34  how we haven't heard much from the Greens this election campaign in the media I'm guessing it's because their lefty hippie socialist policies are so out there that just alienate the mainstream.Journalist  21:44  The greens are pushing for an immediate rent freeze demanding no new coal or gas projects, rent control, a cashless gaming card and scrapping anti protest laws.Dylan Behan  21:54  Geez, what are the Greens thinking there? A rent freeze to bring down the cost of rent? Haven't they heard the only way to fight the cost of living crisis is to give out free money to well off parents and have inquiries and appoint powerless commissioners. Didn't they get the memo? So in conclusion, New South Wales voters are faced with an unenviable choice this state election. The Liberals and Nationals are obsessed with handing out free money to people who don't really need it in the hope that everyone forgets what a corrupt shitshow they've been the last 12 years. Meanwhile, Labour's plan if it wins is to try and appear slightly less corrupt than the other guys while kowtowing to their own special interest donors and simultaneously building nothing in the hope it makes them appear to be fiscally responsible until one day, we all wind up living in the park across the street from our work because nobody can afford to rent anywhere anymore and anyway, it takes 14 hours to get to work on the train because they're so old and overcrowded. Yes, and faced with these two terrible choices at the ballot box this Saturday. I think it's safe to say that all New South Wales voters can kind of relate to 92 year old rages attitude about the state of the world,Reg  23:07  With a bit of luck I'll die and won't have to worry about it at all.Dylan Behan  23:12  Alrighty, that's news fighters for February. Thanks for listening to my big New South Wales State election Deep Dive this episode took over 50 hours to create so if you enjoyed it, please pitch in to the irrational fear Patreon at patreon.com/arationalfear. News fighters is written produced and edited by me Dylan Behan for irrational fear. You can follow me on Twitter at dylabolical or email me at Dylan at newsfighters.com Don't forget all new episodes of news fighters are now on the a rational fear podcast feed subscribe at a rational fear.com or you can watch us on YouTube at youtube.com/newsfighters and news fighters is on social media on Twitter and Instagram at newsfighterspod if you want to keep up with all things news fighters, sign up for our free newsletter and news fighters.com Alrighty, that's it for now. I'll see everyone in Brisbane at irrational fear this weekend. Keep fighting and bye for now.Announcer  24:16  This is News fighters where we find the news. So you don't have seven kids in a Nazi uniform. A Rational Fear on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. 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460 ft long Subs — Adam Bandt, Amelia Navascues, Lewis Hobba, and Dan Ilic

460 ft long Subs — Adam Bandt, Amelia Navascues, Lewis Hobba, and Dan Ilic

🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN BRISBANEJoining us for this week's podcast is Amelia Navascues, who you can see at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival in a couple of weeks time.🎟 Tickets to Amelia's show Blurrier IRL And we have a wide ranging chat with Leader of the Greens, Adam Bandt MP. We talk submarines, safeguard mechanism, and how he works with the climate independants.I should point out during this NSW Election period, we have asked Chris Minns, and Matt Kean to also join us, but no luck so far on that front. Apparently they're busy.🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN BRISBANE0:00  This podcast is supported in part by Australian ethical. It's my favourite time of the week when I hear that music Lewis I don't know about you, but none of our podcast listeners will ever know what that music is. Because it's the music we have on our web streaming video anyway, so thank you.0:15  It does feel like yeah, we're just about to introduce a BEx ad on blankety blank. So it's a real old school television moment.0:25  That's right. That's right. And I am ugly David grey. Welcome to irrational fear. We've got two new people on the Patreon this month big thank you to Bruce and Kamini. Incidentally, Bruce and Kamini sounds like an architect firm. I'd love them to build me a presidential library that would be great. Bruce and Kamini, thank you so much for joining us on Patreon. We've got two things Louis, I need to make you aware of in particular because your presence is needed. Brisbane next Sunday, the 26th of March. We've still got a few seats left for that it's going to be fun. And Lewis you will love this and you know me very well I have shot a rap a parody of a bad eight Israel.1:04  Jesus, Stan,1:06  you know why? Because it why? Because it must be done. It must be done. It will all be explained live on stage. We're going to talk about1:15  2023 We're not doing parody rap anymore. I know. Even the Lonely Island isn't doing parody rap anymore. And they were actually good. And1:23  I know, I know. But I couldn't resist. If anything, it's a rap of a parody of a parody. So does that mean it's like your Icarus? Already? That's fine. It's fine and funny. It's good. We shot it. And it's funny. I'm excited to show everyone in Brisbane. It's gonna be there. You can decide next week and tell me what you think I was really excited to hear your thoughts.1:48  I don't want to turn this whole intro into this. But when was the last time you listened to a song in the genre of hip hop? That wasn't a parody you had written?1:56  I can't remember it doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. Yeah,2:00  parody gets genre you know nothing about it makes me deeply. I'm a big2:03  fan of my own work. Alright, the other thing you need to know is that Melbourne is about half sold. And there's going to be a bit of a surprise on stage you as an audience member will get the chance to win a piece of Victorian politics history. Does that intrigue you Lewis?2:20  It does. I can't wait to get down Andrew as part of it.2:24  Well, it's very much along those lines. What if I said the word Chappaquiddick to you? What does that mean? In terms of Victorian niche politics history?2:33  I'm assuming it's a car accident. I'm hoping it doesn't involve it.2:38  There isn't a death there is a car accident. Yes, there's something to do with Tim Smith and the word Chappaquiddick and it's gonna be pretty excited reveal on stage so I can't wait to share that with you. Or in Melbourne, April 2 on stage,2:54  you're giving away the remnants of Tim Smith's career. No one's gonna want it.2:57  That is so closely we're so close. Oh, you almost got it. I'm recording my irrational fear on Gadigal land in your nation. Sovereignty was never seated. We need a treaty. Let's start the show. The following3:08  programme contains medium coarse language and traces of nuts. A rational fear recommends listening by immature audiences. Comedians experts sloughing at the world as it burns down around. This is a rational fear.3:33  Tonight, the stock price of Credit Suisse plummets causing worldwide financial turmoil. Authorities in Switzerland say they are no longer going to hide money in the holes in the cheese. And the US has warned tic TOCs Chinese owners they must sell due to security concerns. Tik Tok respond to threats with two dances and a makeup tutorial that talks continue. And Australia is to legalise MDMA for medicinal use as one reaches virtual said, Oh man, I fucking love you man, man. I mean, just menu, but I can tell. I can tell Hey, seriously, no, seriously, we just wish to start a podcast together man. It's the 16th of March 2023. And with more poker machines in Nevada, this is irrational fear.4:13  This is a rational fear.4:27  Welcome to rational fear. I'm your host caliphal Sydney identity Dan Ilic. And this is the show that takes the news and forces upon it a trilateral agreement whether you want it or not. Joining us tonight is how we've got our own trilateral agreement. It's very exciting here. Our first theme manga is about to launch her debut solo show at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. It's called blurrier IRL writer, performer producer podcast host Amelia. Now that skews Welcome to irrational fear.4:53  Hello, yay. Hi. Thanks for having me. All that stuff people say at the top of pot Ha.5:01  Are you pumped? Are you pumped for your debut in Melbourne?5:04  Yeah, pumped. It's good. I like the bulletins that they send to all of the performers because the most recent one that they said was mental health. Make sure you call the hotline if you guys are stressed. Emails, you guys get it?5:16  Oh, this is your first time doing the Comedy Festival. It's, yeah, yeah. This will make sense in week two,5:23  and also on the show is Lewis Lewis. Welcome to your podcast. co host irrational fear.5:28  Thanks, Dan. A pleasure to be here and across everything as per usual, let's talk about all the things that are on this show. Right.5:36  Adam ban is popping in we'll ask him about the CPRS probably but first here's a message from this week's sponsor.5:41  irrational fear is brought to you by New South Wales poker machine ASMR. Clinics. Free drink sips the jangle of cash from five Cleopatra's but the sweetest sound of all is when donations in your election campaign bank account, if you like the sound of staying in government and the sound of Nazi photos quietly being shredded ditch that cashless poker machine cards, or else authorised by collapse New South Wales in a very non threatening way. Campbelltown6:12  this week's first fear blackouts in Adelaide are being caused by bats. Of course if you live in South Australia, you already know this by the more colloquial name. The bat out Yes. Last year 89 blackouts in Adelaide were attributed to bats resting on power lines in the wee hours of the morning as bats went to and fro from feeding authorities tried to call a subcontractor to deal with a problem known as Batman, but they didn't have power to get the signal out fear mongers what is going on with Adelaide bats, Amelia?6:42  Well, I think this is clear that the bats are plotting revenge for a speciesist inflicted discrimination after COVID. That's clearly what's going on here. Let's be real South Australia clearly had some strong opinions during the pandemic, and they're just plotting their revenge. I think that's so interesting. I don't know why I targeted South Australia specifically, but I think they had any particularly different opinions to the rest of the nation.7:09  Do you think that? Like obviously, I've been I assume you haven't communicated with the bats? I don't want to make any presumptions.7:17  Personally,7:18  yeah, you personally, because obviously this the approach you've taken here is that the bats wrongly slighted or taking their revenge. The other alternative is they're just trying for the second time to wipe out7:36  that's true. My other thought around it was that like it's a lot of bats like to cause the electrical surges, but they also get killed as a result, right. Like they don't survive. So part of me was also thinking like, maybe the bats aren't okay, like know what there's no like, are you okay, day line for the8:02  I don't know how you do ask because you have you have to sort of do it in like echoes.8:06  I think it's echolocation right. It's like sonar. Hmm. So maybe if you made a physical sign that said, Are you okay, bats, they could bounce the waves off the physical sign and actually read it like Braille or8:17  possibly if it is sonar, a great thing that might be able to ask you about if they're okay, is our new submarines. They, I imagine, have some sort of sonar detector being built in South Australia. Yeah, that's right. Maybe that's why in fact, maybe that's why the bats are killing themselves in South Australia. Maybe they know that once they build the submarines that the submarines will be able to pick up on their plan, which is of course to overthrow Australia and eventually the world. wants it so no king goes off. If they need to take us down before the orcas deal goes through.8:50  A rational fear what is rational fear? In fear, satisfied headlines and giving them a little tickle.9:00  scams are back in fashion the I triple se scam which has revealed that 14,585 people last year were done out of $664,000 just by clicking on toll notices from from scammers on their phones. Meanwhile, I can confirm that about 331 people have been scammed on Patreon for paying for this podcast which is otherwise free. You know, the scammer knows the scam II do how do we sympathise with these people who are being scammed Amelia?9:31  Ah, I don't know. I think I have a lot of sympathy for like the victims of any scams because a lot of the times like they're really vulnerable. They're people in their 70s or 80s. Like you think about those romance scammers in particular like they're often like widowed like I think you feel pretty bad like knowing that like imagine if that was your mom right? Like you'd feel pretty bad knowing that you teaching your mom how to use Facebook in good faith all those years ago would like lately to lose In your entire inheritance10:02  my mom's cheating on my dad10:07  none of that my mom thinks there's a real problem with immigrants. I don't know where she's getting that information.10:13  It is crazy. I don't like it is so noticeable the amount I got another I got one today they are getting so specific like it started off as like, you know, it was very broad. You have a fine you haven't paid but now it's like, they're like I got a quite a specific one from my actual phone provider. That was I think they're just like they pick phone providers and send them out you but they just happened to get mine right. And I was like, nearly clicked on it. And I'm like that they're not going to they're not going to send you a hyperlink in your text Lewis like and also this isn't from Vodafone. This is just from a random number. And I'm like I'm relatively across this stuff. And I and there was a moment where I nearly I nearly did. But I have been done once I got caught. I did fall for one email phishing scam and it was the worst moment of my professional life. The10:59  font curls empty size 4611:04  I mean, was this was this back? Was this back when you were working for Norton Antivirus?11:10  They promised me an extra couple of inches I couldn't resist. No. It was like one of those. The first time I ever saw one of those. Have you seen this thing about you? Text? I don't know if you've ever gotten one of those gets that one. It's literally that's all it says it's a text message or an email targeted to11:27  people in the public eye specifically, have you seen this about you?11:31  Anxious now? I was like, Oh, no.11:36  What did I say that it's gonna hit me cancel.11:39  So I clicked on it and and it ended up getting every single person in my contact book. And, and then they and then I had to do like a full apology email to every like, professional people that I hadn't seen in years. It was it just as at the time I was like under 30. And as a person under 30 to have to email a bunch of boomers and go, I was fished on an email scam. Like you might as well retire. You know, I don't know how I recovered from that. First12:08  of all, you got to do a lot of explaining to those boomers, what phishing and email scam was.12:14  Okay, it's quite different. Spelling is similar.12:17  It's a bit like q&a on crack. Moose is a rational fear.12:25  This week's third fear we're getting new submarines maybe costing us $368 billion. Australia is getting a handful of underwater tubes that can shoot more underwater tubes. $368 billion may sound like a lot of money. But really that's only 368 years of the ABC. That's all that's all it is. That's all that is. nuclear subs. Lewis. What do you think about these subs excited about nucleus? I couldn't be12:49  more excited. Dan, I look I know. You know, Paul Keating, a lot of naysayers, a lot of cowards. A lot of people who pissed the bed at the side of the Chinese invasion. They're saying no. But me i i know full well that the boys and women, the men and women and who are under the seas are the ones who protect us every day for the great undersea threats that we face. I know that we haven't had a working submarine since Federation. I know we've had a lot of13:20  didn't act that way.13:23  Yeah, I you know what, I think this time is gonna be different. I know. There's no reason to believe that. And I know now we've added a little nuclear twist, which I think is an exciting, I can't wait to see how we fucked this up. I think13:36  it's so interesting. Like, the first steps we're getting there are going to be second hand American submarines. So we're gonna get American submarines that are going to be cleaned up and sent to us. And the head of budget range and the story like the government saying, Oh, it's gonna be between 278,000,000,370 8 billion, like that's a that's $100 billion. Like difference, like, that's it What a crazy range. I can only assume that 100 billion dollars is dependent on whether we actually convert the American submarines to right hand drive, I assume. I think14:05  it's whether or not we get tinted windows. I think that's quite14:09  you know, what gets me is like, I don't know anything about boats. I don't know why I would but like, what got me was when they said that they need to replace the submarines every two years. I'm like, that doesn't sound like a trustworthy boat. If anything, like if you have to replace your boat. At the same time that you have to replace a phone like don't go 20 metres underwater. I grew up not your life purpose.14:34  You really want to hope these Virginia class submarines or IP 68 Or you know,14:39  whatever, if you ever talk to any like relatively wealthy person, and you ask them what's the worst investment you've ever made? They'll always say a racehorse or a boat for similar reasons, which is that they will break and and eventually you'll lose all your money and it's just like, this is the multi multi multi billion dollar version of that we can't make planes that fly. We can't make helicopters that do their job. We can we barely make human being soldiers that can't commit war crimes. You know what I mean? Like, our country's military is pretty fucking rogue. I just wonder if at this point we might have to just give up,15:20  but just give up the country? No. Did we?15:23  If we just had no military, right? No one's fucking invading us. No one's gonna, like, what are they coming for?15:32  You know what, as well. They're underwater. No one can see them. I feel like a whole big visibility piece in war is that someone somewhere can see it. But if it's under the water, can't we just say that submarines are attacking each other? And we could just make up the facts? Like why do we need the boat?15:50  Amelia? That is why I'm going into the submarine building business. And we'll be launching our first submarine in 20 years. It's gonna cost $3 billion. Amelia, you're the you're the you're the foreman. You're gonna be running the sharks.16:04  It's so good. It's like, you know how when you sometimes move into a house that's in a sketchy neighbourhood, you'll put up a beware of the dog sign or like you put up like a security camera that doesn't work. We should just around Australia put up giant signs that are like submarines operating in this area. Watch out16:23  with these submarines. They are nuclear which means nuclear disposal nuclear waste is already debate about where that's gonna go Western Australia came out today to say we're not us. We don't have enough. We just don't. Australia just don't. Like well, that kind of makes sense. Because they couldn't be trusted with one bit of radioactive Lego brick. So they're like, well, we we can't even we can't even manage the Lego brick radioactivity. We can't What are we gonna do with the reactor? They everyone's kind of putting the pressure on South Australia to to build a hole. But that put that in?16:53  You mean a second hole has already Adelaide? Oh, well, you're ready to sell tickets anymore.17:00  There's a great comment from Peter Dutton on this and I swear this is not from butter. But he said he would love he would support the cuts to the NDIS in order to make way for the subs. Oh my God, when I saw that, I laughed. A big belly laugh. And it was just Oh, that's so typical. Like, that is the that is the most what? Like, someone would have written that as a joke. Like, that's not a joke. You're actually saying that.17:29  It's so much cut. What if we just bought one? Let them have one. You know, what are we looking at? They're like 20 billion 30 billion 40 billion. Like, we can have one. We'll give him one. But not as not 16 or whatever it is madness. I kind of I do feel like it's so funny that Paul Keating is the one that has turned the tide on this. An old man just like pointing his finger at the cigar. No, no, it's randomly managed to turn this around.17:57  There is a point to all this. That is the rise of the PLA and Zhi Jing ping did lay down a challenge to say, y'all need to get ready to invade Taiwan by 2027. Is this something we should be worried about in Australia? Or do we just go let them invade?18:14  I just don't think it's the same thing they don't they don't like Taiwan and Australia are different for literally all of the reasons. They're not similar in any way at all. I mean, there's like, these are very different situations are not quite it, this whole thing seems insane to me. Like I feel like, like maybe Albanese has like a kid who wants to be a submariner somewhere, like, there's got to be a shoe that drops in this conversation that we just haven't got to yet.18:41  It's so funny seeing the press coverage in the Sydney Morning Herald and the age in the lead up to this, their giant Red Dawn kind of media blitz scared the manufacturing of consent to kind of build up to this moment. It's so strange to kind of see, you know, actually happen unfold, unfolding in front of your eyes. And this time, now, being an old person now, and seeing many war cycles and seeing the media go through these war cycles by kind of saying, all the scary stuff that's leading up to an announcement and you're like, oh, and then when you see the actual announcement drop, you're like, Oh, well, that clearly makes sense. Because for the last three weeks, the major broadsheet has been kind of selling the idea of, of defence you know, in a major way, and here we are, here is the pie. We need to eat. So interesting. Like it's so it's kind of it makes me feel a bit disgusting. Like, knowing like seeing through the scene through the facade going, Oh, that's just what they're doing. In a moment. There's gonna be a huge19:33  rock or again, this is fun.19:36  Yeah, we lived it again. This is the worst sequel ever because we know the ending. Well,19:39  I think if we do want a solution that can make people feel a little more comforted in the event of an invasion or anything like that. We've got some super bats. Like they can protect us surely. We've got sky. We've got bats in the sky. We've got fake submarines underwater. Land. Do you bet like, come on?20:02  Yeah, good point,20:03  I'm not worried about an attack from China under the under the sea, I'm worried about a cyber attack on Bunnings. That's what I'm concerned about. And when that happens, that's when we send in the bats tit for tat.20:14  The only podcast made entirely by artificial intelligence, rational fear.20:23  If you're on the free feed, you're about to hear a live read from the Western AI about our sponsor, if you're on the Patreon, you're about to hear Adam Bandt. One story we didn't get to Louis is that during the pandemic, there was a whole bunch of people who pulled money out of their super fund. And the first thing that many people did was gamble, gamble that they gamble with their money. Can you believe that? I can absolutely believe it. Yeah, it's very sad thing to do. But you know, one thing you shouldn't do is gamble on the future of the planet, Louis? Well, I20:52  mean, it depends, then because what if you put the future of the planet on red? And then it comes up? Right? You know what I mean? Suddenly, the future the planet is looking twice as good. I'm not saying obviously, the odds are a little under 5050. But at the moment, probably less than 5050. Anyway, I reckon it's21:09  not bad odds. One group who aren't gambling with your money is Australian ethical. They're only investing in ethical businesses that are met. That means no fossil fuels, no companies that are detrimental to the earth. I just saw they divested from LendLease this week, which is incredible, because LendLease is doing some tricky things with land in New South Wales and koalas and overdevelopment. So that's really fascinating stuff from them. So and they are also sponsoring irrational fear. So big thank you to Australia, if they got down21:35  when the pandemic was on, I removed my money from my super and I invested in human trafficking. Now. I'm just wondering, what Australia legals position on human trafficking against against it21:47  that said it right. They're against it. They're, they're against human trafficking? Well, I mean,21:51  how did they come to this position?21:53  I don't know. You know, you should definitely ask Adam, if he and21:57  I will, I intend to give.22:02  Adam Bandt is joining us live via the Internet himself, one that he is in charge of because he's part of the government. Adam, welcome to rational. Hi, Dan. Thanks for joining us, Adam. It's always great to hear you pop in the show every three months. And we just want to ask you one question again.22:22  It's about the CPRS.22:28  I'll have you know that I was in Cape Town last month with an Irish journalist. And he said to my face, Google it mate. I love the google it mate guy. Can you believe that? I was in Cape Town with an Irish journalist. And they were quoting you? How do you feel22:43  about that? That's nice. I thought you're better say that he asked about the CPRS. But22:51  Adam, what where are you at? At the moment? Obviously, it's a very busy time for you for the greens for you know, climate change policy in general. What's the mood?23:00  I saw a tweet today that said, Well, look, we're about to come out of a learning year. What's the next couple of summers going to be like, and my sense from talking to people is that, but really, for a lot of people, people are starting to get worried about what the climate crisis is going to mean. And we've had sort of a bit of a wet time and sort of some reasonably wet summers. And I think now sort of Penny has dropped that it's that's not going to last. And so I think there's a growing sense that we've got to get our skates on that time is running out, and that we've got to act. And I think we saw that sort of manifested at the last election really, when you've got people that greens vote go up. But also independents winning seats, or former liberals in the independents who've got better climate policies than the government does, like suggests to me that there's actually a real mood and a real shift amongst people that was expressed at the election that says radio, it's really time to get on with it.24:01  I want to know, how are you working with those independents? Like, what's the what's the vibe like working with those community, independents in federal parliament? And how are you thinking about that movement as you head into state elections?24:15  I was very interesting in the the New South Wales election that's on at the moment, we saw not only the greens, but even now independents saying that in balance of power, they'll push for action on coal and gas and saying stop opening new coal and gas and rewind, a parliament or two ago, and it was just us who are pushing that. And I think there's a growing sense, like, including amongst independents, like if you're not tied to the fossil fuel industry, if you're not taking the donations from the coal and gas corporations, you just look at it. And it's like, it's common sense, right? And so why would you open up new coal and gas mines in the middle of a climate crisis? And what we're finding is the Greens have been doing this for a while, but now also a number of the community independents, who are able to speak with us Science and speak for what I think, you know, a large section of the Australian population are thinking and saying things that that in many instances match things that we've been saying for a long time. And I think that's really good. I think that's really good that we now have this parliament were sort of roughly speaking a third of the country, just less than that votes for the government a third votes for the opposition and a third votes for someone else. And if you had the kind of electoral system that you had in New Zealand, for example, that would just that would require multi party government all the time. And we're seeing versions of that I think being played out in our parliament. Now. I just think it's really good.25:38  What about the coalition with the government in New South Wales putting a ban on on mining offshore? That's pretty interesting. Do you take credit for that pushing them into that position?25:48  Well, this is exactly the point if the New South Wales, liberals can say that they're going to put a ban on, I think it was gas, oil and coal mining offshore. I didn't know coal mining offshore was a big industry. That's good. I stepped up. And, of course, a few asterisks and caveats. We've got26:10  an open cut mine, it's called the Pacific Ocean.26:14  So I mean, it's like there's, you know, there's, I believe that when I see it from the liberals, but the fact that they now think that it is in their electoral interests to say something like that, in the lead up to the election, I think shows how much the population has shifted. And The Australia Institute did a poll at the end of last year. That said, two thirds of people under 34 and 57% of the population generally don't want new coal oil or gas mines, right. And that's 57% of the population generally. And I think the penny kinda hasn't yet dropped in parliament that this is now a majority opinion.26:51  Who is the who's the 30 year old person, or the the 30% of those 30 year old people walking around going, you know, what we need around here? We need some new coal and gas I've always said27:03  so and I've given the given the like, debate at the moment, like, you know, not not in the New South Wales State election, which is also very interesting. But But federally, obviously, there's a lot of chit chat about, you know, Labour's policy at the moment, communicating with you needing your support. How's that looking? Where are you at?27:21  So the government's got a plan for a thing called the safeguard mechanism that basically allows unlimited numbers of coal and gas mines to come into the system. And they don't actually have to reduce their pollution, they just have to buy offsets, and they can keep on polluting what you've said to them. We think there's some real problems with the scheme. And but look, we're prepared to, I guess, put aside our concerns and vote for it if you disagree, to stop making the problem worse, and stop opening new coal and gas now.27:53  As a touring comedian, Adam, I sometimes fly between capital cities, and I do tick the box, and I know that that $2.70 of carbon offsets is doing fuck. But I check it because it makes me feel good.28:08  Qantas profits are doing pretty well, though, Dan. So maybe you're helping. That's good. Yeah,28:11  I'm helping out Alan Joyce. Yeah, well, I28:14  mean, he's just yet right. It's like these offsets for especially the large scale for Woodside that is proposing one just one of Woodside new projects, the Scarborough project off Western Australia, that alone would wipe out any climate gains from all of the 215 corporate entities covered by the safeguard mechanism put together 2030, right that we're talking about. And there's at least six new gas projects and more than six new coal projects that are in the pipeline between now and 2030. And more than 100 in the pipeline altogether. So these for these going, Woodside just got just tripled its profits. They're in the billions of dollars and the cost to them of offsetting, quote, unquote, the Scarborough project is about 5 million with an M a year. And these guys don't even pay any of the gas tax at the moment because the gas tax is broken. And many instances, big corporations in Australia don't even pay for the gas at all. So it's kind of coins down the back of the couch for these guys. And so we've said to the government, look, if you want to support, we're going to have to deal with this question of coal and gas. And we've said we'd look at other alternatives as well. People have talked about a climate trigger, which means you can't open up a big new project in this country. And as you take into account climate impacts, the independence others have put forward a range of proposals. We said we'll look at all of those but really this question of coal and gas, we have to start dealing with it and the government has to explain to the population why it wants to keep opening coal and gas mines.29:49  It's so kind of disheartening around the world to kind of see these huge projects still kind of get up. Biden administration this week, announced the konoka Phillips will open Protect, which is, if completed will, will kind of release 263 million tonnes of carbon dioxide over the next 30 years. What is this kind of deal with these so called progressive parties trying to show how green they are, you know, try to pretend that they're there for the environment, but are trying to also affect the planet at the same time? What's going on there? Like, what? What how did this Willow Project Get up?30:25  So the corporations that are meant and their lobbyists that are meant to be regulated by this new supposin climate policy that the government's putting up, donated over $900,000 to the government in the lead up to the election. So like, there's the coal and gas industries in Australia have enormous sway, like exercised through donations, but it's also a revolving door there, right. The other resources ministers, I think, get something like going back for the last 15 years, I'd stand to be corrected on that. But something like that every resource minister there was basically goes out the door and then ends up working for a resource company or their lobbyist. And so there's a big revolving door, there's big donations that come into play. And you see that in the US, you see that here as well. But it's completely as I said before, it's completely out of step with what people want. And I think there's31:18  sort of a whack on that, Adam, Adam on that, like, you know, $900,000 It sounds like to everyday person, that's a lot of money, right? But there must be more money. Let's go ahead and be away. Like there's got to be something that is not on the books that kind of is actually persuading these folks to do this because it doesn't, it doesn't make sense, like doesn't make sense. Like the money the amount of money you see, in the registers, like on the registers are so small, like, if I remember the film, the big deal, they were talking about numbers of 30,000 40,000 50,000. Like, That's chump change, like that's a car like what else they know, there's surely there's got to be more than than what's been32:00  27 big gas corporations in one year, between them bought in $73 billion of income and paid no tax, right? This is like we but these guys have their hooks into the Labour and the liberal parties. And they have seen it in Parliament, they basically they walk around the corridors of parliament with a metaphorical big stick and say, do what we want and what we demand. Otherwise, we'll run a campaign against you and try and oust you from your seats. And the and so far governments have been cowed by that, by that kind of threat and what I think, but what people aren't tweeting, but the government and the opposition haven't tweeted yet is that actually like the people, people would respond really well to a government that stood up to these corporations. And they said, No, actually, hang on, you got to pay some tax. And maybe your business model being premised on the destruction of the planet life, as we know, is something that we need to start winding down rather than boosting. And I think there would be huge, huge popular support for taking them on but as it is, at the moment, they're the ones wandering around saying, do what we want, or we'll run a campaign against you. And part of our job is to say, Well, no, actually, you probably it's getting to a tipping point now where you're going to lose more votes and more seats, if you don't take action on the climate crisis.33:26  On the upside, if the planet does collapse, we won't have to sell Comedy Festival. That is real joy. Adam33:33  is in a dream world, obviously, like in a world that you run that people who'd like the planet to survive run, you know, the Labour Party makes the decision to not allow any more coal mines, you know, gas mines, anything like that. But in a imperfect well health, where they're in a position where they've got, you know, in the Neapolitan ice cream that you described before 30% 30% 30% They've got vanilla on one side, they've got strawberry on the other and they're the chocolate in the middle. What Lewis34:03  is trying to say what does the Veneta Adam bad look like?34:09  I guess what I mean, is like, if it comes to a point where the sticking point between, you know, them getting any progress is is this coal and gas thing that that is again, from our point of view, crazy reasonable, but for whatever reason to them isn't. What what are you going to do with that? You must I know Dan joked about the CPRS. But The Haunting of of that must be on your mind or like, obviously, I guess what I'm asking is like it's a principles versus I guess, practicality decision, potentially. Like, how are you feeling about that at the moment? Yeah, we'll34:47  come in into I know the government loves to run the line about what happened, you know, a decade and a half ago and they completely and then if they ever Last Julia Gillard out of history as if as if there was no like, they forget that immediately afterward the greens and labour work together and put in place climate laws that actually worked in this country. But like just putting that to one side like that, that actually doesn't really concern us too much, because the the 20 year olds who are marching in the street now with signs saying no new coal and gas when Primary School when all that happened, and it doesn't quite have the purchase that that the few labour hacks might think it has. And they tell themselves that story a lot, and so on. But it's not our experience is that it doesn't resonate. And people think that our position is the common sense one, but like, if you look back over what we've done, since we've been in this Parliament, there's been a number of instances like the passing of the climate or passing the Evie law were passing of the law to take on the gas corporations where it wasn't done exactly how we would have liked it. But we took the view that the climate bore there 43% weight target, right really weak Tiger it's premised on exceeding two degrees which means the end of the Great Barrier Reef for example, in destruction in the Murray Darling Basin like that's, that's their targets. But we took the view that we could determine prove the law put in place a, a floor, not a ceiling, and we passed it even though we think it should have gone much further, because in our view, it was a small step on the road to tackling the climate emergency36:25  when you say Dutton peripheral, or do you mean like writing it in very like, with long, like very verbose language like,36:33  Yeah, something like that. The the way, we're, if we can take a step on this direction, then I would, we're obviously you've seen us say, Well, look, let's do that. But what, and we'll work together with the government to do that, even though what we think you're doing is nowhere near good enough. But I guess where we draw the line, is it making the problem worse, right? And, like if what the government is putting up, actually sees the problem get worse, because it says, Open slather on new coal and gas, and actually will tick the climate box and say we've done this, even as pollution from coal and gas continues to go up, then I guess that's, that's a place where I think anyone would say, Oh, you don't vote for something that makes the problem worse.37:24  Amelia, did you want to? Yeah,37:25  I just had one question. You know, as a pleb. I think I speak for the people that far and wide. And I think, you know, for this upcoming election, there's a hot button question on the minds of many Australians. So my question is, Fuck, Marry kill house of House of Representatives Senate. Or, you know, like that hectic, Picasso styled painting of Gough Whitlam in Parliament House. You know, the one I do you know, the one Adam, do you know, the one Louis?37:59  They don't let me in to Canberra or anyone for good reason. You know what I did? Yeah.38:08  I can't go there. The language of it maybe? Which one would you bromance one? In which one would you share? What can I say? Can I say I'm feeling after the last 48 hours. I'm feeling particularly finally towards Paul Keating. Anyone come out and put succinctly into words something that that that I've been thinking for a little while about better ways to spend over $300 billion. Who comes it comes out and does that manages to get on the front page. That's, that's worth a glass or two.38:52  Yeah, we've just got a clip to promote the show, Adam. That's great. Thanks, Adam. Thank you so much for joining us on rational VR. We just got a couple of questions from the folks on Patreon Peter McNeil says, How do I google the current cash rate? How does he do that?39:04  Go to a search engine of your choice. I've been advised that I should be medium neutral from now on so.39:13  And Hayden shore wants to know, what should the defence budget be? I'll take the answers in US dollars or submarine. It should be39:21  what it what works for us not what works for the US.39:25  And Adam. I did a bit of googling to see what you're up to lately, and it looks like your super fund is a bit dirty. And we have a superfund that sponsors our show that's not have you Would you ever consider moving your Superfund to one that doesn't sponsor fossil fuels?39:40  I don't know who isn't Superfund that39:42  that sponsors your Australian ethical looks after us? Very, very good.39:46  I am actually in a I mean a fossil free Fund The Daily Telegraph chose not to mention that particular39:57  point of our super fund is that they don't condone human trash. Okay, have you checked in on yours?40:05  They tell me they don't either.40:09  Hester has a different super fund for human trafficking. Adam, Ben, thanks for joining us on irrational fear.40:17  Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for having us on.40:20  is rational.40:23  That's irrational fear. Big thanks to Louis. Adam, Ben and Amelia. Adam, do you have anything to plug?40:29  Just yet vote great and see in the upcoming election.40:33  Oh, come on. nonpartisan show. All right. Go Jack come on here willy nilly and say vote Green. No. And they40:40  go and see Mandy Nolan at the Comedy Festival as well while you're there. Yes, Mandy40:45  Nolan also performing at irrational fear. Next Sunday in Brisbane. Amelia, what would you like to plug?40:52  I am doing the Melbourne International Comedy Festival from April 10 to 22 Birds apothecary. It's on the website for you know the one the big Melbourne one. And also Sydney in May, May 17 and 19 at the Factory Theatre. All right, Louis. What41:09  would you like to break down? We've got a great show irrational fear. Brisbane World Science Festival next week. What alarm bell bottle? Correct Mark Humphries. Mandy Nolan. The exact same person that Attabad just recommended. We agree. We agree on that. And also Daniel it's yeah, of course. He'll be there. This Melbourne International Comedy Festival second of April. What a while. Yeah.41:33  Who's Who's on the show?41:37  I've got a 10 week. Just41:38  one. Just one person. One person. Great. Same race time is on the show. Yes, very good. Very good. Big thanks to rode mics Australian ethical, our sponsor, patreon supporters and Jacob roundover Tepanyaki timeline until next time, we'll see you next week.Transcribed by https://otter.aiA Rational Fear on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The Vengabus on the O-Bahn — LIVE IN ADELAIDE — Kyam Maher, Andrew Hansen, Dan Ilic, Alice Fraser, Gabbi Bolt, Lewis Hobba, Dylan Behan

The Vengabus on the O-Bahn — LIVE IN ADELAIDE — Kyam Maher, Andrew Hansen, Dan Ilic, Alice Fraser, Gabbi Bolt, Lewis Hobba, Dylan Behan

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN BRISBANEG’day Fearmongers —It was hot, it was fun, it was full of audio problems.Nethertheless, here is the podcast of our Adelaide Fringe Festival Show.The conversation we had with Kyam Maher, the South Australian Attorney General was super inspiring. South Australia is in the process of passing legislation to enshrine their own Indigenous Voice To Parliament, and the Attorney General is one of the folks leading the charge in SA to bring it to fruition.Big thanks to the great Jacob Round (on the teppanyaki timeline) who took the dogy audio and massaged and mixed this episode so it’s very listenable.ALSO on the podcast:📡 Dan Ilic discovers one of our co-hosts has a branding problem.🚔 Gabbi Bolt finds out just how long it takes to re-train as cop.🎸 Andrew Hansen doesn’t like his own name.📉 Alice Fraser has beef with crypto bros.📺 Dylan Behan mashes up the summer of news you missed.👑 Lewis Hobba finds someone to perform at the King’s Coronation.Brisbane ARF show only has 80 seats left!If you were planning on coming to our World Science Festival show in Brisbane, you better be quick, it’ll sell out. There’s only 80 seats left and with 3 weeks to go, run, don’t walk to get your tickets. Also if comedy panel shows about science are your thing; I’m also performing in a show called Night Of The Nerds, the night before A Rational Fear. It’s like Spicks and Specs for geeks. You’ll have a good time.CheersDan🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN MELBOURNE🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOW IN BRISBANE0:00  This podcast is supported in part by Australian ethical. When I formally introduced the legislation as Minister for Aboriginal Affairs in the upper house, there were so many Aboriginal people there that journalists and my fellow MPs from the chamber couldn't get in to have a seat. It was the proudest day of my working life.0:17  That is the voice of Kyam Maher. He is the Attorney General of South Australia and he said a whole bunch of other super interesting things. In this episode of irrational fear recorded live at the Adelaide Fringe Festival just last weekend now, please, just a word on the audio. I couldn't actually hear myself very well, because the audio was quite squeaky in the audience. I don't know how or why it sounded that way. I had a weird headset mic, so I changed my axe halfway through, it sounded a lot better. So Jacob round or the teppanyaki timeline has done absolute wonders at polishing the audio we recorded in Adelaide. So please enjoy this episode. And please enjoy the conversation we had with Kai Omar is really good. Also quick note. If you are in Brisbane and Melbourne, we're coming to you live March 26 in Brisbane at the World Science Festival that is selling really well. We've only got about 80 seats left to sell there. And then April 2 in Melbourne at the Comedy Festival. We are we've we're about half sold out there so pick up your tickets to Brisbane and Melbourne. Right now enjoy this episode of irrational fear recorded live at the Adelaide Fringe Festival1:21  in Burundi natural pork and pokey Oh Mango yellow Qatar curry Yara thumping De Niro pura chi ha mana Yang jeeyar Tacoma tamping the mining Nina Pudney Ghana Yatta Nina button Ipanema pokey Mocha bhandal Tula poro taken the 10 year panda Taberna to Tacoma, Yang Chicana yada, yada yada. Today we are meeting on sacred Ghana land. We pay our respects to all the Ghana that were and all the Ghana that are we pay our respects to all of our elders earthside and beyond and to all First Nations people. On behalf of the ancestors and Guyana people. We welcome you to our country and ask that as you travel these planes. You remember the people that walked here before you the spirit still lives amongst the steel or concrete the roads and the lawns wherever you go you stand on unseeded Aboriginal land, always was always will be.2:13  Hello, Robbie McGregor here letting you know that this is a podcast recording that as such you as the audience should make as much noise as possible. Specifically, you should laugh and cheer Dan's opening three jokes regardless of the quality. I know I know. I didn't make the rules okay. The following programme contains medium coarse language and traces of nuts. A rational fear recommends listening by immature audiences. Comedians experts sloughing at the world as it burns down around the live from the Adelaide Fringe Festival. This is a rational fear3:04  jumps as shocked as all around Australia hundreds of equity five gyms collapsed from too many reps. And the return of the s&p 500 has been a success delivering 51 million to the state. Next year South Australia you'll be able to buy a house and sit there and wait till we tell you where you can see the Southern Lights in Adelaide. Now tell the White Horse behind the streets. Live from the Adelaide Fringe Festival. This is a rational rational fearthis is the podcast that takes the news and gives it a little ride on the Oba. I didn't know what an Oban is. Sounds dangerous. That sounds pretty good. Alright, let's make our fear mongers for tonight. First up is a musical Wiz and a showbiz master of showbiz, a man who's no stranger to making people annoyed on television, but it's only apologise once. It's Andrew Hansen. Hello, Andrew. Hello, Andrew, you've annoyed a lot of people on TV. Do you have your advice for the project?4:19  The project is apologise more often and somebody might start watching again.4:26  And they've received their second five star review at the Adelaide Fringe Festival but they refuse to let it go to their head. It's the very humble and she asked him to say this The artist formerly known as Gabby bolts. Yes. Gabby congratulations on your great reviews. What keeps you grounded?4:43  The rocks that I put in my pocket as they walk into the ocean.4:49  And then the first of two lawyers here on this panel is the satirical miracle that is Alice Rebecca Fraser. Alice, have you ever been on a call Many panels with more than one lawyer.5:02  I have always been more than one lawyer on the inside. Inside everybody there are two lawyers one wants you to win and one that wants you to fail and they're in constant court battle.5:12  And he's not only a DJ but a master craftsman of wacky clips from the news fighters podcast and behind the scenes on every TV show in Australia it's still in vain dealing what is the what is the worst comedy show you've ever worked on? No. I want to work again it's a very small and they know the law inside and out. I hope you have your parking tickets ready for review it South Australia's Attorney General chi ma5:42  good eye and good afternoon, everyone.5:43  Time for all of us visitors to this land. What is the strangest law in South Australia we need to be aware5:50  of you can spend two years in jail for pretending to be a clairvoyant. Is that right? Section 40 of the summary Offences Act.5:59  Just jail everybody who's claiming to be a clairvoyant because you wouldn't claim to be a clairvoyant. If you were a clairvoyant, because you'd see the jail coming.6:07  You can just imagine the prosecution the judge tells you Are you a clairvoyant or not you want to and you are gonna ask that case dismissed.6:15  And finally, each Sunday, our guest visits a maternity ward to drain the stem cells from discarded umbilical cords to keep him youthful enough to host Triple J. Dr. It's the radiant Lewis6:29  Yes. Welcome your6:30  children. Last time we came to Adelaide, we are done.6:37  We don't need to talk about the last time I came to Adelaide.6:39  We left on sour terms. Because, you know, Julie's Amuro booked us for the cabaret festival. And she got a few complaints about the comedy we did there was very anti Adelaide. So I've got some ground rules.6:50  Okay. There was actually the moment I started my like set. The last time we were in Adelaide, a man stood up and it was this is the cabaret festival, so very different energy to the fringe. He stood up and he was wearing a feather boa and he flicked it around his head and he read. That's not a camera. It was fucking amazing.7:14  So we've got some ground rules for tonight. So please, no barrel jokes. No wheelie bin jokes, and no human size receptacle jokes in general. Okay, that is that is it. That is it for tonight. And it's great to be here in Adelaide a little later on. We're going to be talking to Kyle about the voice of South Australia. But first here is a message from this week's sponsor.7:34  Jim Chalmers says if you've got more than $3 million in Super, you'll probably be okay with paying a normal amount of tax but tell that to the renters in your fifth investment property. Jim Chalmers wants to steal money from the super rich to give it to the slightly less super rich, is this the Australia7:52  we want? So these are confronting numbers.7:56  Jim Chalmers doesn't want you to enjoy Bollinger on your 66th birthday, who's forcing you to drink DOM pairing yuck. Instead,8:04  that's going to be a difficult time ahead. Don't8:06  let labour steal your third first class trip on the Queen Mary to this year away from you.8:12  It will get tougher before it starts to ease authorised8:16  by Rich for a second conversation about Super Australia.8:22  It is great. It's great to be in Adelaide. It's fantastic energy here it feels like like Austin at South by Southwest I've almost been run over by 10 scooters, which is great because it means if someone's paying 20 bucks to go 500 metres the economy is good. It's really good. It's really good. We're gonna get into a bit of SA politics in a bit. But before that yesterday I to promote the show. I was on ABC Radio. Didn't want to hear me on ABC radio with Joe Schilling yesterday. Yeah. Oh, great. Fantastic. Wonderful. Excellent. And8:48  listener. You're listening. Dan, have8:50  you seen the ratings for ABC Radio? I don't think anybody sorry, Lewis.8:55  It's a question. Levine. Lewis Andrew, myself, Dylan, we've all kind of started our careers on ABC, YouTube, Alice and Gabby as well. And like how many we started our careers like 2009 on TV? Yeah. 10 We went to air 2010 Yeah, you've been doing radio for like Triple J national drive.9:15  i When radio was invented, I was there. I was there the dawn of the very first broadcast and you did Winston Churchill shook my hand and said go and play flume Youngboy and I did.9:30  Louis you also do TV? You're a bit of a network star on the ABC.9:33  Sure. Yeah, that's right. When they need a white guy they they see if Charlie pickerings busy. And then they work their way down to will Anderson. And then they make seven or eight more phone calls. And if none of them are available. They check once more and then they call me9:49  It's so it's kind of interesting to say you know how ABC Radio Adelaide introduced us.9:53  These 12 minutes to five you're listening to your show. It is ABC Radio, Adelaide. Well Tomorrow at five pm at Vagabond at the Garden of Earthly Delights, you'll get the opportunity to laugh in the face of fear or irrational fear. Dan Ilic has been hosting this podcast since 2012. In our CO hosts with Triple J presenter, Louis Hobbs.10:16  It was Hobbs. Father, I think you might have a branding issue.10:22  Julius Silla has shaken my hand looked me in the eye and said my name on more than one occasion.10:28  It could have been a simple mispronunciation like that. I don't know, Louis, let's see if it was a mistake.10:35  You'll be co hosting with Lois Hobbs Of course, Triple J presenter but you always have10:39  low as this is bad. This is terrible. You've got you've got actually an SEO problem, which is search engine optimization. I actually Googled Lewis Hobbs and it came up with a football. This is Microsoft Bing you're also some kind of planetaries That's10:54  actually me when they gave me my first radio job.10:58  But when you put it into Duck Duck go this is what comes up we've discovered the Julian Sheila uses the security search engine Duck Duck guy. Don't lose. Don't worry. Like when I heard this, I had to defend your honour. Thank you so much. I needed to speak up.11:17  Well, Daniel edge. Thank you for joining us. It's good to know that you've finally got to Adelaide and you'll be part of irrational fear tomorrow in the garden. Have a great show. Dan, thanks for coming on.11:29  Thanks. So that's why I give a big shout out to my co host Lewis Hobbs. He's an absolute legend.11:34  Thank you, Dan. Danny, and11:38  all right, Louis.11:40  Honestly, I was gonna be really fucking nice to Adelaide this time. I wrote a whole thing about how not and you know what, fuck yourself. It's fucking barrel time. Don't11:52  punish the people for the one you know. You're all one11:57  person. You're all Julian Silla.12:01  Lewis. Sorry. Thanks for Thanks. Thanks for that, Louis. I'm sorry about that. Louis isn't the only one with nine complications. Andrew, you've got quite a complicated problem with your name. Oh, look,12:11  can I complain about my name in the in the form of song day? Yeah, if you don't find kind of spontaneously do this with a backing track? No, my name is Andrew Hanson and you know that comes with a few issues by this I could have been named after Charles the new King. I could have been James or bill or any damn thing that mom told me Andrew and it makes me wince cuz adopt the name of that Prince terrible name, known by any other name. That's what I want to be a blowgun name like brand new or a nutcase name like Barnaby, an ancient name like Jesus or any name since but I got the name of that Prince. Last night even worse, but didn't get a choice. And son is your surname I was told. I shared with a poly from the Ku Klux Klan, and a rock band of eight year olds. Andrew Garfield with Spider Man. Andrew Lloyd Webber's still fiddling with pants to cursed old name, but our moms weren't convinced. So we kept the name of that print. Sadly, it's a hard name to carry. It's even worse than Harry. I got the name of that print name. But if you're planning a baby, then take my hand squat. Don't give him the name of a print13:57  there is a bit like q&a on crack loses faith, rational fear.14:06  As we say goodbye to summer. Let's spend a minute to remember the stories we all avoided over summer. Dylan bang you watch too much news for one man. What did we miss? Yeah, thanks, Sandy.14:17  Did you have a good summer? A great summer. What about everyone? Everyone in Adelaide have a good summer. Yeah, I had a great summer because in Sydney at least was the first summer in about four years. We didn't have raining ash from bushfires. COVID lockdowns are scary new variants, keeping us indoors. But I don't know personally it felt like there was still not quite enough news. I don't know I watched all the news this summer and and edited together and tell me what you think. Tell me if you think tell me if you think there was much good news this summer.14:49  The rise in interest rates with the promise of wars income is the number one talking point right across the country.14:55  I'm certainly sorry if people listened to what we'd say the reserve The Bank says more rate risers are coming but the treasurer it seems is not convinced. It remains well that they have the decisions for the future haven't15:08  yet been taken.15:09  Angry shoppers are starting to call out examples of hyperinflation on supermarket shelves. With outrage over Cocoa Puffs nearing $10 A box15:19  right by parking a major shopping centres is now outlawed in South Australia and we are the parties of the Australian working class.15:27  The Pentagon is tonight tracking a suspected Chinese spy balloon travelling through us skies blue we15:33  look at it the very famous Australian cattle dog making its taboo.15:37  It's been a dramatic day on Sydney's northern beaches with several of them forced to close following a shark attack on a dolphin15:46  which is scary because you've combined clipper with JAWS. The worst combination you can get15:53  giant sail has had quite the adventure in the Victorian town of Fort Lonsdale. We're gonna go quickly.16:01  Visa unit in the Perth nightclub16:03  is banning red shoes labelling them a magnet for misbehaviour. What is the next shape?16:08  You're gonna have to change and you're gonna have to two games and sci fi superstars Nicole Kidman and Kate Evan and making the most of their time here in Australia. It was a recent trip to a kebab shop that had the Hollywood couple wowing locals.16:22  How exciting was it16:23  to have Nicole and Keith in your store and16:25  most importantly, what are they?16:26  Is it something that Keith hasn't tried yet that maybe you should give a go16:29  at any time of the day when it kebab isn't appropriate?16:33  For the great kebabs for tiny but potentially deadly radioactive capsule that was missing in WA is Outback has been found. In this case. It was a tiny capsule.16:44  15 years ago Prime Minister Kevin Rudd delivered a national apology,16:48  the opposition leader apologising for walking out on the apology 15 years ago.16:53  I apologise16:54  for my actions, notably absent from the anniversary breakfast this morning, Peter Dutton we don't need a voice we need is17:02  a powerful earthquake has struck Turkey now known as Turkey.17:06  ddrescue is in Turkey and Syria are deep into a second night of digging and freezing temperatures as they race to save any survivors of the earthquakes that struck the region more than 24 hours ago. Well, time for one more trip aboard the venga path.17:27  That's the summer of news. Yeah, thank you, Dylan.17:30  Let's continue on with hang on a sec. This is where we play a clip. When you guys want to chime in with a joke, just say hang on a sec, and we'll stop the tape. This comes from South Australian Senator Alex antic he is in some big Alex antic fanzine that's really one are really familiar with his antics. I believe that's the name of the Sky news show. Join me on Alex antics. That's what he's plans to do when he retires. So this is him instead of estimates talking to the Department of Home Affairs, about something very serious,18:02  your opening statement here, which, after the front of me, you made mention of the fact that the department's work extends to dealing with the effects of climate change. Yes. And to better position Australia to deal with the increasing exposure and vulnerabilities to nationally significant crises, including those due to climate change,18:21  we think I'm gonna say you hope that the next line is going to be? And is it going? Well? How do you reckon it's good? How can we help you do that better?18:33  Is that comedy? Or is it serious?18:36  Sounds like the Adelaide advertiser giving a review18:40  your opening statement? Is that comedy clarity, or is that serious?18:45  Are you referring to the question that you've asked me? I don't understand. I don't18:48  know the suggestion that the Department of Home Affairs is somehow prioritising the issue of climate change.18:56  Sorry, hang on a sec. He really stops to read the words climate change is like a job. Sorry, I'm just seeing this for the very first time. Climate climate change, explain more?19:09  What is this catastrophic thing that poses massive security risks for our country department of Home Affairs,19:14  because I know that like we all I assume, look at this and go, Well, this guy is just being he's just being and he's just getting in the way. And he's, this is theoretical, but he's just like slowing this shit down. And he knows he's that. But imagine if he genuinely had just heard about climate change. Like it would be a cause for concern.19:35  What he's doing is he's doing this weird thing. He's like cosplaying American politicians who are not actually in the room that they're in. They're just constantly trying to get tick tock clips of themselves going viral being like, a climate change. Like it's just that19:48  that's exactly what he's doing.19:50  I think Dan, he really wanted to ask about the venga bus, to embarrass to change and as a South Australian, we're sorry.19:59  Genuinely I know how to respond to a rather oddly put question, you asked me whether it's comedy. It's my job. I don't I don't really understand what you're asking me.20:07  Well, so you mean to tell me that the Department of Home Affairs is prioritising the effects of climate change?20:14  I just enjoy the fact that they're going back going back and forth going, is this comedy? Is this a question? Is this comedy? What's the question? What's comedy?20:21  It's actually their version of who's on first, which actually is classic comedy.20:26  Is it safe to say that the department has been captured by leftist ideology?20:32  Oh, hang on to say he's the comedy. Arrived in the form of that question.20:39  I went to his Twitter page to see just what his deal is, and who he follows. Who do you think Alex? Liberal senator for South Australia follows? Who is the one person that he follows? Somebody already yelled it out. You want to say it all together? 123. That was Trump, I think and yes, hangable any person he follows his Donald Trump I think that's the real company right there.21:12  Only podcast made entirely by artificial intelligence. Russian Oh,21:21  please give it up for Alice Fraser.21:25  Hello, this is about the news that four new charges have been added to Sam Venkman. Freed's criminal indictment bringing the total number of charges to 12. If you don't know Sam Backman freed was a crypto trader, who was the darling of both Silicon Valley the Effective Altruism community and the Harvard whitebread wank stains for being a tussle head shorts wearing compulsive gamer who seemed to have the magic touch with other people's imaginary money. Silicon Valley is obsessed with startup culture, which you could be mistaken for believing is about starting new and exciting businesses when in fact, it's sort of a gold rush of hype and an obsession with getting bought out quickly by a big fish. So you never have to admit that most online companies don't have a business model at all other than selling your attention to the advertisers. This is just about the acquisition of legitimacy via the public investment of venture capitalism. Essentially, you should give me more money because heaps of people are giving me money, but their job is to talk other people into giving them other people's money in order to give it to other people. Sam Backman freed managed to self brand as a scruffy wunderkind while escaping into his 30s in the Bahamas as one of the world's richest men while doing experimental new wave polyamory with his colleagues, which should have been a red flag as to productivity, because who has time to pioneer a new way of running human sex, while also being responsible for billions of dollars, such as society's willingness to let young fuckheads gamble with huge quantities of money. And at one point, somebody told him that he should think about getting a board for his company, and he told them to go fuck themselves, and they still invest it. And this is happening in a country America which makes mothers go back to work six weeks after giving birth six weeks, I don't want to get graphic but you have barely stopped bleeding. And look, I'm not saying it's that bad. In Australia. After I gave birth, I got a government payment to see me through the first 18 weeks postpartum it was about it arrived about 11 months after I gave birth. And in order to get it I needed to fill out about 30 pages of the most intrusive invasive Kafka esque paperwork explicitly designed to make you feel like our filthy leech sucking on the morally superior teat of the benevolent and hard done by government, while also asking those kinds of questions that make you question your ability to read reason or comprehend the English language. What I am saying here is we have not figured out how to attribute value to things when we're giving money to men to spend on imaginary money that only exists because other people believe in it. And we are not paying people enough to make human beings.23:52  If Elon23:53  Musk made a human being you'd give him a fucking Nobel Prize. Even from a purely selfish perspective, you know, the first two years of a baby's life are incredibly important to have a personal connection with at least one priority caregiver. Right? And I'm again, from a purely self interested perspective. Who do you want wiping your ass when you are 90 years old? Is it somebody who knows what it feels like to be loved? Yeah, so what we need to do is give parents enough time and money to make the human beings that are going to be the doctors and the nurses and the carers of the future, rather than passing it down the magic money machine. Thank you.24:38  What is rational fear? It's based in fear, begging the saddest headlines and giving them a little tickle.24:45  Yummy. Before we hear from the law itself, you actually have been considering other careers before comedy.24:53  Yeah, I mean, there's not a lot of proof that there's a lot of security in comedy, and it may shock all of you to know By looking at me that I don't have a degree so anyway, so yeah, I did I had a little Google, we're all good information is found. And I am I was sort of looking at, you know, jobs with career growth that I can have longevity in that provide a good mindset and all that you send me that link. You're not gonna want it when I tell you what it was because I kept I kept seeing one really weird thing that kept popping up and that was the police. Yeah, no, I thought surely not. Surely you have to have a criminology degree to join the police force. But if you have one,25:33  that's just just for kinds benefit. This is the New South Wales Police.25:37  Right? Yeah, no show. I know it is. So yeah, I'm from the premier state, but it really should say the premier state, but regardless, I Googled how to look. And I was like, surely not, I had to keep going, you know, so I kept looking, I was like, Okay, well, well, what is the bare minimum? You know, what is the one requirement that you need to join the police force, you know, the job where they train you up to have a gun and then say protect everyone, and it's six months. So I thought about it a bit longer. And I thought, what if you applied that level of training to literally any other profession. If you're a cop, you might want to pop out for about two minutes.26:19  Or just put your gun away. Put that one down.26:23  Kindergarten teacher would only have up to F. When they look at their curriculum to teach the alphabet. A surgeon would not yet have even touched a surgery. But six months yep, that's all it takes to join the ALS bullies. A lawyer would be juggling four subjects on their feet. When on average, there are 38 subjects to complete. They cannot yet defend object or bargain for replay. But meanwhile, you can make arrests when you're the AWS police seems fair. A retail worker would still have a skerrick of their soul. The West Coast Eagles still would not have scored a single goal. Michelle has not been introduced as child of destiny. You can look up kids when you work for us police. The age of criminal responsibility in this country across the board is 10 when I was 10, I couldn't even spell criminal. Our first time mom is still too busy cooking up a kid. A first time architect is still drawing up the blueprint. Our first time taxidermist is still fucking creepy, but so is the fact that in six months you can join the US police. A politician would have only fucked up 40 times and for every fuck I may they weren't until about 40 lives. A toaster support worker still has not got back to me. But I would not have that problem. If I worked for us police hands off Telstar it's fun Lulla Lulla Lulla, firearms, military complex. III all the people I know that went into that career were annoying at best and horrifying and worst. A lot of driver would still be making them longer. An office worker still has not worked up two weeks in lieu a musical comedian just has this six months yet all it takes to only make arrests and join us28:38  this is Russian Oh28:44  Hello, Daniel. It's here just pausing the podcast let you know that podcasts don't pay for themselves, no generous sponsors do and our generous sponsor for this 10 weeks is Australian ethical. They are sponsoring us and we are very grateful. They love money. In fact, they love making you money. That's what they do. And they do it ethically. So they they stay away from things like fossil fuels and they stay away from things like human trafficking weapons, all sorts of baddies drugs, actually, I don't know. Maybe good drugs. Oh, no. I have to look at the portfolio. I haven't looked at what they looked at what they've invested in. Maybe they invested in pharmaceuticals, but certainly not recreational pharmaceuticals sold on the black market. No, they're not putting money into that. So big thank you to Australian ethical. They've been around since 1986. Making money work and doing good things with it, including sponsoring podcasts.Thank you so much Australian ethical. later on this year, the whole country will vote in a referendum on the indigenous voice to parliament. The listeners outside of South Australia. You may not know this, but just a few days ago, South Australia passed legislation to enshrine its State's own First Nations voice to Parliament. Thanks to this man. He is a proud Aboriginalman. The first indigenous person to hold the Office of Attorney General it's time, Ma.Time, congratulations. What an extraordinary treatment. What can you tell us how it felt to pass that legislation?30:16  So it's passed the upper house of parliament that goes through the lower house, which by definition the government has the numbers in so we will have a fully elected Aboriginal voice to the South Australian Parliament by the end of this month. Wow. Fantastic. When I formally introduced the legislation as Minister for Aboriginal Affairs in the Upper House, the public galleries were absolutely stacked with Aboriginal leaders, people that I've known, respected and been my mentors for decades. There were so many Aboriginal people there that journalists and my fellow MPs from the chamber couldn't get in to have a seat. It was the proudest day of my working life.30:52  How did you feel like how did you feel like getting that getting that bill passed and the upper house30:56  just amazing. At the end of my 20 minute speech, introducing the bill, I haven't been there before when people have stood up and clapped. There were tears there a lot of emotion. As I said, it was the proudest day I've had since I've worked anywhere.31:11  can sue Are you saying that if this incredible, by the way, but I there was one thing that caught my ear there, if you fill up the holes, the politicians can't get in.31:24  That does create a big incentive for the politicians from the other chamber who wanted to come and watch it. Not find places to go, uh, yeah. You were thinking of a sneaky way to planning an31:34  insurrection. But it's it's good to have a backup, you know.31:39  So that's so exciting. I was in Cape Town two weeks ago, and I was talking to some First Nations folks who I'm friends with from Guatemala, about the indigenous voice to Parliament. And I had I happen to have the 270 page final report and I was showing it to them. They said to me, then this gives me chills like this is incredible how many voices to Parliament from indigenous folks are there around the world, you know, there are32:03  numbered in different ways. Some Scandinavian countries have their own indigenous Parliament's there are reserved seats for Maori people in the New Zealand Parliament. But certainly in the Australian context, what we're doing South Australia will be the first of any ego, state or territory, and we think will be a really good sort of signpost and hopefully allay some fears with the national referendum coming up.32:23  Yeah. Well. Of course, the lefties in the audience are clapping girl. That's so exciting. Like, this is something that I'm super interested in. You know, Peter Dutton says he doesn't have enough information. Does he not have enough information?32:43  Yeah, he has plenty of information. As you said, there's a 270 page report. Yeah, he asked 15 questions. We wrote out the answers to all those 16 questions in terms of how our model works.32:54  Yeah, but did you do it in bold in,32:57  you know, and it was only 12 font. So probably wasn't, it wasn't good. But at the end of the day that it is really simply boils down to allowing Aboriginal people more of a say, in decisions that affect their lives. It is as simple as that.33:12  There are three no camps, as far as I can tell, there's like, recognise a better way, which is like the traditional conservative liberal camp, there's advanced Australia, which is the modern batshit crazy camp. And then there's a third camp, the progressive, no vote made up of a lot of grassroots folks. I follow a lot of like, black and First Nation folks on social media. And it seems to be a bit of disk discontent around the voice, there seems to be there's this progressive no vote is is, is they're all behind this progressive no vote for very compelling reasons around sovereignty, and treaty, they want something more, how do you bring those folks to this conversation?33:52  I have a lot of sympathy for people who want to see treaty want to see it happen, and want to see it happen. Now, it's a couple of centuries overdue in Australia. But my first political involvement was at the end of last century with the referendum to become a republic. And there were splits in the yes vote for the referendum, those who wanted to directly elected president rather than an appointed one. And those the sort of split in those who wanted to see us become Republic, I think caused it to fail. I would hate to see this referendum go down. Because those who want to see more happen split onto the sequencing treaty first or voiceless. I'm very firmly of the view. If this referendum fails, and we don't get a voice treaty won't be seen in our lifetime. It's not a question of your vote voice down and we get treaty quicker, I just don't think that's going to happen. So34:39  that was what I was going to ask Do you see them as like one and then the other rather than one getting in the way of the other sort of putting people off for a while?34:47  Absolutely. A lot of the people that I talked to Marcia Langdon and Megan Davis, those who have been heavily involved before and since the Uluru statement from the heart in 2017. I think sensibly look at sequencing that it makes sense have a voice first. And that sort of voice can then help progress, how you then go about truth and treaty. So I think it makes sense the sequencing. But even if you don't agree with that being against voice doesn't mean you're gonna get something else quicker.35:14  Is there anything in the voice that because I know there was some talk earlier about it actually getting in the way, not just in terms of getting in the way, theoretically of sovereignty? And like, there were people who were really worried that it would be like, no, no, if we get that, then that actually can't happen. Not won't, but can't. Is there anything any truth to that?35:32  I can give you some pretty strong advice. No.35:35  Thank you very much. That's all I have to say35:40  that there are so many things that thrown up, this will become your third chamber of Parliament and now a level of bureaucracy. It won't. What we've got in South Australian what has been proposed federally is an advisory body, it will mean when government makes decisions, they will listen more to the views of Aboriginal Torres Strait Islander people.35:58  That's it. It's less sexy when you call it an advisory body. It makes the whole things like obviously, everybody feel like this whole country is up in arms. What over an advisory body36:10  when you sort of distil it like that? It really Yeah. In those simple terms. Yeah. Well, what's the harm? What's the worst thing that can happen? Yeah, Aboriginal voices will be listened to more?36:21  Well, what I want to know is I think what everyone wants to know which is will the voice be forced to enter every room? Well, John, phantoms your voice and understand it plays as their theme tune?36:32  I'd like to say yes, but I don't think we can make that happen. We don't know the bagpipe anywhere in Australia for them.36:41  There's a lot of kinds of things, folks that no, it feels like this has been a real growing movement. And over probably the last 15 years, you see a lot of kind of movement towards recognising Aboriginal people in the Constitution, things like that. We have, you know, something very small. We have tried to buy for a lot of Aboriginal voices. We have an origin of country now podcast. You know, we say every week, you know, sovereignty was never never ceded. We need a treaty. And I'll be honest, when I heard that I stole it off Tom Ballard's podcasts because it sounded really good. But I mean, it. Is it tokenistic to do that? Or is it meaningful to kind of have these things in small ways in products we make? I don't37:21  think it's at all tokenistic. And I think it would be the overwhelming view of Aboriginal people that it is important to do that. It is the case. Yeah, it is just plain statement of fact, sovereignty was never seen, and you didn't see Aboriginal people a couple 100 years ago, you can have my country, you can ruin my culture, you can take away our kids, you can take our language, yet sovereignty was never seen. It is a basic statement of fact, and I think many Aboriginal people appreciate that recognition37:46  will climb. Thank you so much for risking your reputation to come on irrational fear. Yes, give him a round of applause. Thank you so much. And just for balance, I think it's important we hear from Peter Dutton. So I've got a clip. And kayam, I might ask your legal advice after this.38:07  Hi, Peter Dutton here, I'm calling on albeau to provide more information of the indigenous voice to Parliament, but not in the format of a 270 page report, but too much information. And not in the format of a series of one on one consultations for constitutional experts, and the Prime Minister himself. That information is to oral and as you know, I've heard of listening, which is why I refuse to hear members of my own party advocating for a yes position. You could try to make a pamphlet with pictures that move when you pull a little tab, but it'll go straight into the shredder. If a report, briefings, conventions, pamphlets, a decade of development, and even lobbying from my own party won't convince me Peter Dutton, maybe there's another reason that a former Queensland cop is against an indigenous voice to Parliament, but just can't put my finger on it. But if I did, I'd have to vocalise it, then I'd have to sue myself for defamation. And maybe that's the only detail that's missing. Elbow39:14  authorised by plausible deniability camera. So, attorney general, in your expert opinion, is that sketch defamatory? Can I play that in public?39:25  Then I would love to have the power to dispense with the laws of defamation for the purpose of this show tonight. But am I afraid? I don't.39:33  That's very muddled advice. I think we'll just move on. Please give it up for Louis Harbour. A39:39  rational fear.39:44  Hello, thank you very much. Remember when you were a kid, and it was your birthday party. And just before it started, you have a flash of worry. What if no one turns up that fear and fortune Suddenly is coming true, not for a child. But for a poor lonely 73 year old man from England. The man's name is King Charles the third. Because on the sixth of May this year, King Charles is getting a little crown place between his mighty years and he's throwing himself a coronation party. And he's asked all the huge musicians to join him. Adele, Ed Sheeran, Elton John, Robbie Williams, the Spice Girls Harry Styles, they've all said no. So at this point, so many people have said no to playing it King Charles has coronation he's going to be thinking about booking sticky fingers this is how dire the situation is this is true right after Robbie Williams had said no. King Charles went ahead and booked the rest of take that the rest of take that take that with no Robbie Williams is like buying a car without the wheels. Like it's technically a car but you don't pay for it. There was a time when being the king of England man you could just cut off the head of anyone who looked at him funny. And now the king in 2023 is reduced to booking take that without Robbie Williams oh well at least now they won't have to hide Prince Andrew and Robbie performs kids unfortunately for Charles the worldwide vibe on the British monarchy is at an all time low. With the effects of colonisation racism, both old and new. And the fact that they just won't do anything about Andrew it's easy to see why Ed Sheeran might not want to stand up and sing I'm in love with your body directly to King Charles it makes sense that Harry Styles said no to King Charles Harry saying no to Charles it's kind of a tradition they're developing over there. But I think then I wasn't a drone. I think we could have just left oh it could have just been like oh yeah. Oh yeah. See he's got a son called Harry he's yeah and we could have grown was unnecessary. Is Julian fucking Silla been told me people is this a fucking let's not cover what's happening again, Lewis? I think obviously the Harry no makes sense. I think the no that really would have hurt King Charles was Elton John. He asked Elton John. Elton John said no. Now obviously, Elton John did be at Diana's big send off. You might remember. The last thing you want to hear about your coronation is it was less fun than your ex wife's funeral.That one you could have grown to I would have let it grow and happen on that one. Because Elton John, you might remember he rewrote the lyrics to Candle in the Wind for when Diana died. And I think he could easily do that again. Now for King Charles, I think a little something like and it's said it seems to be you lived your life like a man who yells at men and know and how to hold them when you sign and things. What advice he has it Oh, what a triple threat. Very good. Very good so much. I think it's a very bad sign for a leader when musicians hate you. I think like personally, I think Australia should be a republic. And I think it's frankly embarrassing that Australia would ever take orders from a guy who would book take that without Robbie Williams. I do feel a bit sad for Charles because I have party anxiety. It's the worst isn't the worst. Like the conversation, the rest of it, but it's bad. It's bad. It's what I'm saying. And since I know Charles is a huge fan of the podcast, thank you, Charles. Here's some suggestions of people that I think might say yes to playing at his coronation. So the first port of call if I was him would be people who actually love the Royals. Unfortunately, they're all inbred losers too busy to collecting teaspoons to learn to play an instrument. So they're all out. So here's who might actually do it. Oasis. Now. People have been begging the Gallagher Brothers to get back together for years. They hate each other and so they won't do it. But I think Charles could sit those two boys down and put their fight into perspective. Oh, you hate your brother, do ya? How many times did your brother get on Jeffrey Epstein's plane? Zero. Get the fuck out there and play Wonderwall. You If I was to say no, Charles might need to find someone who maybe hasn't read any news in a while. That could be an option if he was trying to find someone who didn't know anything about what's been going on with the royal family. I suggest Enya. Now Enya? This is true. A true fact. This isn't even a joke about Eddie. This is just a true fact. She lives in a castle alone with 12 cats. Like I don't reckon she's read the news. The problem with Enya if I may, is that she is notoriously Irish, which means Charles's family probably murdered some of India's family. Can you imagine actually having to consider that when you are booking entertainment for your party? Has my family killed any of your family? Okay, low vibes far all right. I haven't done it he fucking Christ. All right. Which brings me finally to the only idea that I think might work. Holograms, people have been making artists perform as holograms for over a decade. Now they'll say yes, because they can't say no. You could literally pick anyone you could have Holly hologram Harry Styles hologram Elton John. Hologram Adele, he could even add hologram RobbieWilliams, to real life takethat. And to finish the concert, I think he should resurrect his dead mother, who, floating above Westminster Abbey could finally say she loves him and ask the world to be nice to him. Now. If you think that's not possible, I want you to just Well, as I say close your eyes, but no, keep them open. Because just look at this. Imagine this floating off to Westminster Abbey. Hologram Robbie Williams probably shirtless. He's his pawn with the rest of take that right. And then the Queen's hologram floats up. And I love you so much, Charlie. I hope everyone in the world is being very nice to it's beautiful.47:09  Lewis Hobbs everyone. Fantastic. That is it for rational fee. Please think Gabby Lewis Dylan Andrew. Attorney General chi Ma? Is that everyone? Yeah. Delia thank big thanks to Ryan Mike's Australian ethical token events. Dane Nathan Yvonne Kathleen Jacob ran on the timeline. Our new patreon supporters Peter Clayton Darren your grab Nick Mueller, Colin Robertson, Tiffany Barreca Aaron Burke and Peter Lawler is back until next week, there's something to be scared of GoodNites by47:41  rational,47:43  a pretty fun show from Adelaide A big thank you to Adelaide. What a great town. What a great vibe. Oh my goodness, the town was absolutely popping off. It is such a wonderful place to hang out for a few days. Congratulations on having such a brilliant festival season. Thank you for going out to say everyone it is so cool as an artist to go to Adelaide. Love you. Lots. Thank you so much. Looking forward to being in Brisbane and Melbourne in just under three weeks time. Please head on over to the World Science Festival website to get your tickets for Brisbane and head on over to the Melbourne International Comedy Festival website to get tickets for Melbourne. Alright, cheerio. See you next week.Transcribed by https://otter.ai A Rational Fear on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The Half a Chubb Review — Elyce Phillips, Jane Bell, Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba + Nicolette Boele

The Half a Chubb Review — Elyce Phillips, Jane Bell, Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba + Nicolette Boele

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOWSTickets are on sale now for A Rational Fear live in a city near you!Adelaide Fringe —  Sat 5pm March 4th (TOMORROW)Brisbane World Science Festival — March 26thMelbourne International Comedy Festival — APRIL 2ndG'day Fearmongers —Here is this week's podcast — Lewis Hobba, Elyce Phillips, Jane Ball, and Dan ILic talk shit about:💸 Superannuation changes.🖨 Gen Z's office equipment problems.🌓 Moon Time Extra Fear.🤖 Robodebt and Stuart Robert's eating problem.⛽️ and we interview Nicolette Boeler from the Smart Energy Council about the Safeguard Mechanism.If you're in Adelaide — we're performing tomorrow at the Adelaide Fringe: 🎟 https://adelaidefringe.com.au/fringetix/a-rational-fear-live-af2023Cheers DanEXTRA FEAR only on the Patreon & Apple Subscription — we talk RobotDebt and Stuart Robert's peculiar eating habbits🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOWS0:00  This podcast is supported in part by Australian ethical. Good evening Lewis.0:05  Hello Dan. How are you?0:07  Lewis? I'm at the start of the show. I'm energised because I want to tell the people who are listening in Adelaide and Melbourne just one thing and that is to please please for the sake of breaking even buy a ticket to the show.0:20  Absolutely. If you happen to know the Port Adelaide Football Club get them all along. If you know this Adelaide strikers sixes0:33  This is good. This is good. This is good local content. If you know anyone whose family ends in polites get them alone.0:41  Oh, my family are from Adelaide originally, my mum and dad met at Adelaide University. So if you if you're at Adelaide University, you know, man, you're looking for love. Maybe one or two could have a little Lewis0:56  or at all, Louis, depending on how your Louis is go. We've got a great show in Adelaide and we've got Gabby bolt, Alice Fraser. We've also got Andrew Hanson from the chaser. And we've also got for some reason, the South Australian Attorney General is joining us in Adelaide, which is amazing. We're gonna be talking to him about South Australia's voice, which is great. And Melbourne is selling a lot slower than we anticipated. Despite having Grace time on the show, which killed last year. You guys gotta get tickets, you gotta go go right now to Melbourne Comedy festival.com.au and buy a tickets, not even the websites probably why we aren't selling many tickets. But you should go you should go and buy a ticket because it's so it's such a huge show. And it's gonna be really great. Surprisingly, Louis, our Brisbane show is doing really well for sales. We've already sold like 120 So we're like we're killing it. The show's not even on for like another another few weeks.1:46  It's the World Science Festival and they sent me my invite the other day and I was flicking through some of the other events that are on and we stick out. I'm like these people are very smart. And they've done a lot of research.2:02  We've done we've got a really smart person on stage with us. His name is Dan Ilic. Her name is Jessie Christiansen She's a doctor. She runs the exoplanet library for NASA and she works with the JW S T team, the James Webb Space Telescope team so we're going to be grilling her about aliens. It's very exciting. So that is happening in Brisbane at the end of March. I'm recording my irrational feet on Gadigal land in the urination. Sovereignty was never seated. We need a treaty. Let's start the show.2:33  A rational fear contains naughty words like bricks, Canberra, fed gum and section 40 of our rational view recommended listening by immature audience.2:46  Tonight with the New South Wales set to vote next Saturday, polling suggests the other guy is maintaining a strong lead whatever his name is and the creator of the comic strip Dilbert goes on a racist tirade getting him dropped from hundreds of newspapers but a job offer at the Australian and after Rupert Murdoch admits that Fox News was lying to its audience. Donald Trump has accused the media mogul of throwing his anchors under the table instead of in the sea where they obviously belong. It's the third of March 2023. And with more lies than Fox News. This is irrational fear.Welcome to rational fear. I'm your host former only fans nurse Dan Ilic. This is the podcast that puts a shot of vodka. In your news, irrational fear let's meet our fear mongers for tonight. They're a former corporate ladder climbing shill, but now they are a children's party clown performing her show slops at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. It's Jane Bell welcome Jane.3:53  Hello, hello. If anyone wants to book a clown please reach outs to her on this side of the ladder now4:01  you just do corporate ladder comedy Do you do you turn up to kids parties and say hey, let's talk about some EBIT DA is that what happens?4:09  I feel like I was more doing clown comedy in the workplace. And now I found my target audience so it's honestly for the best.4:19  And she has haunted the writing rooms at hard quiz and has been published in McSweeney. She's also sells a bathing suit covered in little cute hands on her website, performing her show tropical holiday at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. It's Elise Phillips. Welcome, Elise.4:34  Hello, thank you for having me.4:36  These bathing suits on your website do they sell well they look amazing little hands on.4:43  Literally any other piece of merch I've ever made in my life.4:47  Really? It looks amazing. It looks it looks incredible. It looks this might sound weird, but it looks delicious.4:56  Oh, thank you.4:57  Thank you, men's version as well. Do you do like a speedo4:59  ABS salutely We've got a swim trunk. Haven't got to Speedo yet. I think I think a bunch of spunk covering ham would be a good option though.5:10  I'm ready. I put me on the waiting list.5:12  All right. Speaking of hams, it's Louis Harbaugh.5:18  a delight to be with you thrilled. I don't know how long it's been since our last one. It might be a week. It might be a year for three weeks,5:26  I think two weeks. Yeah, two weeks. In5:28  fact, Dan, I know we don't do a lot of personal business. But you were in South Africa. Did you have a nice time?5:34  I had a great time I hung out with the my birthday of fellows from the birth of Foundation, who kind of got this podcast back on his feet for a couple of years. So it was a really amazing and inspiring time saying you know what everybody's been up to so yeah, went to Cape Town. It's really good. Good place there. I like it.5:50  How are we looking for this season? financially? Do they call you guy over there to fight?5:57  No, no, I strain ethical was looking after us. And if you if you're on the Patreon, you don't hear the ads. But if you are on our regular feed, of course, you'll know that Australian ethical is looking after us. So we're being looked after this year from them. But maybe maybe there could be some special birth of money later on down the line. I pitched them an idea of doing a show from the First Nations group who are sitting on a Danny's land. I thought it'd be funny to take a bunch of our friends Louis like David Simpson and Craig quarterman. And Steph Tisdall and do a comedy show. At the defenders land on the Adani land, I thought that would be really fun. So they seem to be interested in that and they may even pay for it. So6:40  a lot of fallen to remove us right now. So now6:44  like I like I had a realisation while I was there. We no longer live in electorates. We live in billionaires bank books. So you have to pick the billionaires you like we are. We're I'm a big fan of this birther guy, you know, and some people are big fans of Clive Palmer. So you gotta pick your pinky. You gotta pick your billionaire. New it's the new AFL.7:04  Are you thinking of reaching out to other South African billionaires if you goto one you keeping it to7:16  every good joke someone does on the podcast is rewarded with one master diamond.7:24  Speaking of sponsors, here's a message from this week's sponsor. Jim Chalmers says if you've got more than $3 million in Super you'll probably be okay with paying a normal amount of tax but tell that to the renters in your fifth investment property. Jim Chalmers wants to steal money from the super rich to give it to the slightly less super rich, is this the Australia we want? So these are confronting numbers. Jim Chalmers doesn't want you to enjoy Bollinger on your 66th birthday. He's forcing you to drink DOM pairing yuck. Instead, that's going to be a difficult time ahead. Don't let labour steal your third first class trip on the Queen Mary to this year away from you. It will get tougher before it starts to ease authorised by Rich for a sane conversation about Super Australia. Thank you Rich seawards for a sane conversation about Super really appreciate your support this week. This week's firstly it Yes, it is bad news. If you're a billionaire, you may have to pay slightly more tax on your super if it's above $3 million. The Treasurer Jim Sharma said that the new measure will only affect 80,000 people. Most of those people probably won't care or don't even notice that they're actually paying a little bit more tax. Ato statistics are absolutely zany for this. I don't know if you've seen this. And apparently there are 27 people with more than $100 million in Super there is one person, there is one person with $544 million in superannuation. Oh my god, the question must be asked, Where will these people find the money to pay slightly more tax where where? What kind of person has this has more than $3 million in this year but at least9:05  I should fess up the $544 million one that's that's me I finally consolidated all 500 of my super accounts.9:16  Subscribe subscription I don't see your name anywhere in the Patreon subscribe.9:20  I tried to count off my admin and it's just as backfired her rific9:26  love support the Patreon but with this new tax I mean, how are you?9:31  It's in impossible. It's impossible. I'm gonna be living on base for the rest of9:36  your day. I can't believe anyone in any journalist, any bounty hunter, any private investigator is doing anything else with their time right now other than finding that person like that's the only thing all newspapers should be on that 24/79:54  I would like to pitch a concept specifically to the $540 million person I assume they listen to this podcast. It's a new holiday I've thought of called Super Claus. Basically, this super, super fund owner acts as the nation's Santa Claus. He reveals Himself. And then one day a year, we can all go to them and say what we want for in our superannuation in our self managed super funds, he grabs those wishes, and he gets to live his life as beyond even human, just this legend. And then we all move on. It's a good news story. No one's angry at him for a super balance. It's just it's a new holiday.10:39  That's about as you can to turn the tables on your parents and you can tell them that that person doesn't exist. I mean, here's the thing. Are these boomers with so much money in the bank account? Like what are they going to do in retirement? Like the the biggest iPad is only $1,900?10:56  Yeah, I mean, you could buy maybe like three or four caravans and like, strap them on top of each other, and get like a triple decker quadruple Decker situation going on. That'd be fun.11:06  Pete Lola on the chat has said it's Gina Reinhardt. Well, here's the thing Gina Reinhardt actually came out to news.com. Today, you and a representative said, No, it's not Gina Rinehart because Jenna Hannah is not stupid enough to lock up $544 million until she retires.11:23  This is a tiny Venn Diagram of people who haven't discovered offshore bank accounts want to keep their money in the Australian economy. So it's some kind of like Ozzie bat law, but at the peak of their career,11:35  you know, they say Jane about people who've got big nest eggs, and gotten complex shell companies that's11:44  the only person I can think of who is like rich have and would be so afraid of foreigners that he wouldn't trust his money in an offshore bank is the expense. Like I reckon that11:57  we should get him on the show. He's a friend of the show. I've got him I've got his number in my in my book. So12:05  if there's a human being there's an Australian whose number you don't have, they don't exist. Oregon, if you scroll you through your phone, you would eventually find that person with half a billion dollars in super like there is12:20  I should send everyone a text right away. And just tell us said it's an attack on middle Australia, middle Australia. Who could just give $3 million until they're 66 Just sitting there they're not gonna miss it. That 3 million don't miss that 3 million.12:39  I tried to think what I would do with $3 million dollars and I Googled what can you buy with $3 million. And the first article I got was from finance samurai or someone a blog like that. And it all it said was 3 million is the new 1 million and I felt so poor. I've never felt like aspirationally I'm not even picturing the right number anymore. Yeah.13:03  The old 1 million yet that's moving too fast. Do13:06  you know that scene from succession by the way, Greg gets offered like $10 million. And they all talk about how sad it is to have $10 million because it'skind of feeling millionaire.13:20  Yeah. embarrassing to admit you've got over 3 million on your in your super account, I think embarrassingly small amount of money if you're not the 500 mil guy then who are you? That's crazy.13:34  Yeah, yeah, the phrase I'm a millionaire has really, truly jumped the shark hasn't it? as we as we the phrase jumped the shark.13:43  I did see an article because I think when it came out, like obviously, the message got out pretty quickly, that it was going to effect such as like small amount of the country that really no one apart from Angus Taylor perplexingly probably his brother who has a problem but he's probably got half a billion Giga litres of water in super.14:05  This is rational fear. Angus Taylor14:10  situation we had was some people were contributing millions of dollars into super and it's totally inappropriate. What to use,14:18  who you're listening to are very rational here.14:24  This week second fifth Gen Zed thanks buttons or violence. According to The Guardian Gen Zed are having trouble with physical office appliances like finding files folders, printers, copiers, fax machines, binders, basically anything with buttons is extremely difficult to work with. Jane, what's going on here? Do we need like a button pushing Bootcamp for Gen Zed before they're allowed to apply for actual jobs?14:47  Oh my god, I I'm a millennial. I will say I'm 32 but I just feel so bad for Gen Zed, because we've went destroying the planet. We've tanked the economy. They'll never buy a home and now we still expect them to use like The Canon 1996 printer in the Kindle office space, and we're getting upset at them for not knowing how to do that, like the poor little guys just like they shouldn't have to worry about that. And they just want to be left alone on tick tock with the apps that just feed all the information straight to their brain. And we're making them interact in like a sad as places in the world which like, I don't know, offices set up in the 80s and 90s. And no wonder they don't want to do it.15:29  It's like that Apple TV show severance. Every office is like that to them. There's a great quote quote in his article from a guy who runs workshops on intergenerational differences. He says, I joke in my sessions that my gen Zed intern didn't know how to mail a letter. He said, they asked me where the sticker went. And I said, Do you think stickers are just fine? When I15:54  work at a Triple J, there's a millennial and Gen Zed exclusive atmosphere. And like, I'm the second I think I'm the third probably, I'm in the top five oldest people that have ever worked there. People asked me about like 2015 And I'm like, man, it was crazy.16:16  You would say, man, it was cray cray. Yeah.16:21  They want to leave but they can't find the elevator button. So they have to listen to I think there's you know, you do read a lot of articles where every time there's like a boomer gender divide. The old people are like you don't know how hard it is when you when you get old. No one wants to hire you. And I think this is a great opportunity. Like I think we used to have elevator operators. And I think now if you turn 60, we give you the gold watch. And then you just become a guy who pushes the button on a photocopier. It keeps you employed gives you something to do. It gets Gerald out of the house, and it keeps Gen Zeds you know, are able to use Photo copiers, everyone wins.16:59  These are valuable skills in demand. Yeah.17:03  I've never worked anywhere as trendy as Triple J. Like we say I've worked places17:08  to say I love I love the way you said Triple J like yeah, like with as much denim as possible.17:15  You also said trendy which was incredible.17:19  I've aged out of the hottest 100 And I get to have feelings about that. Now that's17:27  such a millennial thing to say17:28  we have blocked your number and everyone like you.17:32  I'll see you on Double J in 10 years.17:37  The system is working17:40  at least what about you? What's your thoughts? I17:42  mean, I just I think we're being a bit too hard on these kids not knowing how to use this stuff like I am an elder millennial and I don't know how to use stuff that was used to do business in the generation before me I don't know how to use a quill or abacus or like cocaine i18:03  and that's fine pursues rational fear18:07  Annabelle is a typical teenager. And these days, that often means living with anxiety. Why it's so hard to turn on. There's no button,18:15  a rational fear.18:18  This week's third fear time on the moon we not only cover the most pressing topics on Earth in the show, but from time to time we cover Moon related disputes the moon is set to get its own timezone. That's right, it's moon time. People joke about flying to Adelaide, and they've got to turn your clock back 30 years but on the moon despite looking so much like Adelaide no one knows how far the wind back back looks. At least what is Moon time18:42  the European Space Agency has come out and said that they think that the moon needs a time zone. I'm all for it. You know, I would love to get up onto the moon be playing some you know Dance Dance Revolution. The dress Park game where you're in a jeep, the core machine timezone? No, that's okay.19:05  It took us a long19:07  night, they're looking to have like an official timezone for the moon so that you know, as it's getting busier, and you've got commercial organisations flying up there, that sort of thing for everyone to be sort of on the same track. So you don't have rockets going up there. And like doing the up who's to go do go? It's all clear everyone knows exactly where they're going. And it's a lot safer and happier for everyone. A whole series of problems with doing it because like yeah, gravity is an issue so clocks go faster on the moon and like depending on where abouts on the moon it is so your clocks are running all sorts of different times all over the shop. It sounds like an absolute nightmare to figure out.19:51  Surely the moon is going to be the right place for a sundial gravity is gold school like Let's find you know, a baby boomer who doesn't understand technology can explain a sundial younger generation or20:13  on the moon.20:16  I think actually, I tell you what my if I was in the European Space Agency, I'd be like, guys, I know you guys always told me I don't belong here, because I'm not a scientist and I don't understand anything. But I've got an idea. I think clocks should be banned. I think time should be banned on the moon. I think it'd be a no to so I think it should be like a chill zone where on the way, you have to put your watches or your phones in a little bag. Like you're going to see Dave Chappelle in case he says something transphobic put it in a rocket, and you have to leave it in the rocket and then the moon can be a place where we don't worry about time we can leave our troubles on Earth. Thank you.20:52  What time do we leave to go back to whenever you want man20:55  to move? You know what I mean? It's it's a common, it's21:00  a common, it's a common Well, she got21:05  to be five minutes. But I found a joke.21:08  Very good. Yes, moon days are about 29.5 Earth days long. That is a long day, a whole month on the moon. And clocks work at different speeds. Why two clocks? I want to know why clocks work at different speeds on the surface and in orbit. That is so strange.21:24  So it's yeah, it maybe physically Yeah, the pull of gravity on the21:29  hands of the clock. Yeah,21:31  wow. It's a great journey for like, for a brand to come in and start their own, you know, branded time, like you'd have like, Blue Moon beer time. That would be like even on Mars, you know, you could have Mars, Mars Bartok, that would be good.21:44  They tried to they tried to do this with Antarctica with like how Antarctic is like the shared continent, a little section of it. But now there's like 10 time zones all across Antarctica. But if you set up a base, countries will just set up a new base with a new research station and then decide we don't care what the timezone is where we are, we're gonna go by our home timezone. So there's all these erratic, non approved time zones throughout Antarctica as well. I feel like the moon's just gonna end up like that, like we're gonna have like China and Russia and America, we'll get there different times. And be like, we're on Russia in time and American Moon time. It's just gonna keep going.22:23  Can you can you imagine if the Australians get there like half the team would be on daylight savings time, it would be terrible. With Antarctica,22:31  how important is time What are you doing? You're meeting like the Russians across the border for coffee like what22:41  I feel like the one thing that the moon and and like everyone has to worry about is not having the scientists and the like the astronauts go crazy. I feel like the one thing that will guarantee an astronaut going crazy is saying an Earth Day is 29 moon days. That is crazy astronauts you're breeding up on the moon23:06  Thank you man with Dominic claw on the chat saying moonlight David savings time. Thank you for that. I23:10  appreciate it. I don't like the moon. It scares me. I don't like thinking about how can you not like the moon? I don't get it doesn't make sense. A rational seer.23:21  Stick with us. If you are a Patreon sponsor, you will hear an extra fear. We'll we'll be discussing about all things about Robo debt and Stewart Roberts particular eating habits and how they're related. But if you're not a Patreon supporter, you'll hear live read from our sponsor. And then we'll be chatting with Nicolette Bulla from the Smart Energy Council. Lewis just popping the podcast and hold here to talk about our incredible sponsor Australian ethical who do incidentally superannuation, which is the flavour of the week on this podcast. Do23:50  you think the person with half a billion dollars is investing with Australian ethical because that would put us in a pickle because then we kind of want them to keep it23:57  actually that's a really good point of view. Yeah, maybe maybe that person if they are with Australian ethical, they should definitely keep it because Australian ethical don't invest in things like fossil fuels. They don't invest in things like human trafficking, or weapons or pretty, you know, bad stuff. They invest ethically so that half a billion dollars, that would be that would be saving so much carbon if it was in some Bodhi else's Superfund that is so good, but that's with the straight ethical24:22  every time you say this to me, I am sure I'm like, which super funds are investing in human trafficking. And why haven't we stopped that? Well, they're 2023 You know what I mean? Like shouts to Australian ethical for putting up and going, Hey, by the way, we don't have human trafficking. But I must admit, I sort of assumed all super funds were pretty awful human trafficking.24:44  One Superfund does support a particular podcast that is irrational fear and that is the straight ethical thank you so much for your support straight ethical. Let's get back to the show. All right by July one this year. Labour government is going hammer and tongs trying to get in place a policy to help Australia meet its climate targets and something called the safeguard mechanism. It's something you could sounds like something you could buy in a sex shop doesn't it? It is designed to gently finger the greenhouse gas emitters without kind of rogering them entirely Joining us now to discuss the safeguard mechanism. Its longtime policy wonk and former candidate for Bradfield. Nicolette Bulla. Welcome Nicolette to rational fear.25:26  Thanks for having me. I'm have no idea how you're gonna make this very serious topic. Remotely funny.25:33  Oh, that's, that's good. That's what we do. If we fail, we're doing it. So it's totally fine. We're very comfortable25:37  being not funny. Otherwise, it's never I've kept going.25:42  Nikolay, tell us like the safeguard mechanism, like how does it meant to work? And will it work?25:48  With the name, we don't even know what it means. I mean, I know what it's safeguarding if it's the climate complete fail if it's the fossil fuel industry, maybe remotely better. At the Smart Energy Council, we call it the big polluters programme, which is basically a shortcut to explain what it is. This mechanism is it, it limits the emissions from the country's biggest industrial sites, big factories, so there's two of them, 15 of those, they're big, they're chunk out 100,000 tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions each year, it's about 28% of the nation's total kind of carbon budget. What's really keen to understand is they're kind of in two categories, there's half of them are these industrial processes that we can probably see, we can navigate towards a nice low carbon future things like fertilisers, steel, aluminium cement. And then there's the other half, which are basically fossil fuel operations. That's, that's coal and gas, where there really isn't any feasible technology that's going to take these guys to net zero, they just need to stop production. So what we've got is this mechanism, that's going to work for half of them and not the other half. There's three things being discussed at the moment around the mechanism, I suppose there's lots of them, but it's baselines is the first thing this is the contract about how much each of these factories can emit. In the old system. Those just weren't enforced at all people are allowed to increase their limits what's being offered now, Minister Boren suggesting that we'll have new baselines, and there'll be a kind of musical chairs thing out to 2050, a reduction of 4.9% each year. So that looks like it's, you know, going towards something like our Climate Change Act 43%, emission reductions, by 2030, and net zero by 2050. The second part is that big polluters don't actually have to reduce their emissions. Actually, they can buy offsets, we can talk about that in a minute. And the third thing is that really this sort of cap of the price that the government will pay for these at $75, these credits that have been created just are not set as sort of price that is going to create some structural adjustments for some of these industries. We're seeing much bigger prices in international markets.28:04  We've seen in committee hearings lately, a lot of questions about prices, particularly David pokok, who was kind of pressing the architects of the safeguard mechanism on the price, basically say, Well, if it goes above 75, who pays who pays for that, and the people who may have made this kind of programme have gone on, we haven't actually thought about, we haven't actually thought about what happens when the price goes over it already. There's a lot of fossil fuel companies who have who are pricing these carbon offsets, at at $80. And more, oh, who is going to pay for that? Who's gonna pay for that? Nicolet. And they're28:38  going to do it because of course, we don't just work in Australia, we're operating international market. So we have some companies at the moment who are doing what we call shadow pricing at $400 a time because we've seen some peaks and spikes in other markets that that kind of price. So yeah, if they're going to stay internationally competitive in terms of greenhouse emission reduction profiles, because we've got some places like the EU have got import tariffs now. So if we want to put out goods and services and sell them to places in the EU, we add an extra tariff on that because ours is heavier or more, you know, more polluting than theirs.29:11  Wow, that's so huge that that amount of money that's wild. I was watching an episode of Clarkson's farm last night, and they were getting 180 pounds, a tonne for wheat. Like we're talking about cob. We're talking about pollution here. That is tonne. That is heaps of money. tonnes of money doesn't make sense, but it's just so much money.29:29  There's a lot of money at the moment we made in coal and gas as well if you're exporting it overseas,29:34  if you'd like wood to pretend to be like a greenwashing expert, how much money is there to be made in selling offsets or Shitloads? Like what's the scam? Like do we need to go by?29:47  How do we get involved? is really the question.29:50  We got a podcast we've we've got a podcast if I'm Nicolette29:53  Yeah, well, okay. So you might I don't know if you heard that there's there was this thing called the chub review, which had a little look at the offset scream and how it's been going. There30:03  were just so I'm so sorry. Just because of the nature of this programme, we have to pump the brakes on Chubb review. Committee or when they were halfway done, what did they call it?30:16  The halfway Chester half chap review. It was the half chub review.30:20  Sorry, Nicola, I know you're very soon. I apologise. I'm sorry to everyone listening, we can continue with the job review.30:31  So the question is, like, how, how much money can you make? So I don't know if you want to get the spreadsheet up. But in this review, there are 165 projects. I mean, 24 point 5 million credits. Now, and this is mainly from what we call human induced regeneration, aka, planting more trees, putting some seeds in the ground, and maybe not. I mean, some of the people gave evidence and the inquiry said maybe the rain made the plants grow. So there wasn't necessarily additional. So if you want to, you know, this, this was some of the greenwashing claims come in. Now, just to be clear, the findings of the inquiry suggested that there was no overstatement in the creation of those credits. There are sort of big question marks around whether the climate understands the difference between, you know, not stopping burning coal and gas versus, you know, growing a few more plants on someone's property. Man, it's31:32  review revealed a problem that was growing and growing.31:37  Thank you, Louis. Can you tell us like I heard a rumour that Tony Abbott actually designed the safeguard mechanism. And surely, if Labour is getting behind some of that Tony Abbott designed to protect the environment. Surely, it'll do the opposite of what Tony Abbott is said it would do?31:52  Well, yeah. Well, I don't know if I'm bit old. I think actually remember that. Nick, Xenophon. And his team proposed some of the changes which then the coalition at the time adopted because they had this thing called the oh, goodness, can't remember it. Some sort of, oh, credit skate, no. Direct action. That's what it was.32:14  Yeah, yes. We all we all remember the green army, Nikolai, we were. It was people on the dole going out to plant trays, that'll save us.32:23  And it was the biggest ideological contortion that I have experienced, where we got rid of what was basically market based mechanisms of doing some emissions trading. And we took that away, and we use taxpayers money and granted that to big polluters to do nothing much at all. It was extraordinary. And so that's when Xenophon suggested perhaps we do some of these things. And you know, to the credit, I suppose, coalition said, oh, yeah, okay, let's do some baselines and get people to report those emissions. And then let's see whether we can get them to actually reduce their emissions. But of course, if you don't enforce something, probably doesn't get done.33:03  I love hearing in the commission, David Polka talk about Akyuz they're the they're the units of carbon offsets. Is that right? Yeah, they kind of they kind of sound like the new Bitcoin, like the way he was talking about it made me want to get in early on accute. I needed to buy, buy some Akyuz now, so in 10 years time when I'm underwater, I'll be able to buy myself a nice house on the hill.33:23  Yeah, now that the NFT market is crashing, is there room for maybe the carbon credit like to take its place if we can make the carbon credit schemes really, really trendy? We'd like 60 year olds?33:35  Yeah. Yeah, a series of carbon credits, but some of them are wearing fedoras. And some of them have really cool sunglasses on. Some of them have like little sailor,33:46  maybe dead ape, we could call it33:53  drowning. Nicolette Bill bola. Thank you so much for joining us on irrational fear to give us a little bit of clarity and leave us feeling more despondent than ever about the safeguard mechanism.34:06  Thanks for having me.34:08  That is it for irrational fear. Big thank you to all of our guests Nicolette Villa Jane Bell, Elise Phillips Louis harbour, what would you folks like to plug up Jane? Let's start with you.34:19  I've got a Melbourne Comedy Festival show starting on the 29th of March it buys a pack of three called slops it is about having multiple quarterlife crisis is all through your 20s and 30s. You can find it on the Coronavirus website or on my Instagram Jane Bell MP.34:36  Excellent lace. Yeah, I'm34:38  also bringing a show to the Melbourne International Comedy Festival I'm starting on March 27 at the butterfly club and it's called at least Phillips tends to be on tropical holiday for 50 minutes definitely not a scam. It does what it says on the tin34:54  I love it a great long name I'm big fan of long name Nicolette below what would you like to plug Do you have a show at the building? contest35:02  for possible by elections in the federal state of Bradfield, after the New South Wales election, I'll be running as community independent. I'm allowed to do that. I'll just have35:11  go for it. Yeah, yeah. We should point out that Nicolette almost almost got a seat last last time around. So this could be the Redux how excited you know, around the same time I was doing the billboard stuff, Paul, Paul Fletcher said on q&a said, what you can't do is you can't go around putting up billboards saying that Paul Fletcher is an idiot. And I thought well, that that is a great quote. That is a great quote to put on a billboard. Bradfield, which is an idiot by Paul Fletcher q&a On this date. So there's an idea for you. Oh, yes, John from radios wants to Sir remind everyone that our Adelaide show is 5pm This Saturday afternoon in the garden of unearthly delights. So for now tonight and you listen to this before before then please come along, get a ticket. We've got the Attorney General came mark from South Australia on the podcasts gonna be talking to him all about the voice Lewis. What would you like to look?36:07  Yes at the Adelaide show, Dan. We're also going to be in Melbourne on the second and April. So buy tickets to that. It's gonna be fun. It's a technically a hometown show for me. So I'm expecting rapturous applause, perhaps some sort of motorcade. I would accept fireworks. I would like Dan Andrews to be there and personally shake my hand and walk me back to the city of Melbourne. These are just some ideas. If you're listening from Melbourne, and you're wondering how you can welcome me back home.36:39  Yes, it's gonna be a great show. That is it for rational fear. Big thank you to rode mics, our sponsor, Australian, ethical. All of our wonderful, incredible Patreon supporters. We had a whole stack of people sign up this week. I'll shout out your names at the live show because it was so awesome. Or the amount of people that signed up Jacob round over Tepanyaki timeline. Until next time, there's always something to be scared of. Good night.Transcribed by https://otter.aiA Rational Fear on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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INTRODUCING NEWS FIGHTERS: Anthony Albanese goes to the tennis and the right can’t deal!

INTRODUCING NEWS FIGHTERS: Anthony Albanese goes to the tennis and the right can’t deal!

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOWSOnce a month on the A Rational Fear podcast feed and email list, comedy editor, Dylan Behan, will bring you News Fighters.Dylan has been cutting wacky clips for film and television along side me for all of my careers. I first met Dylan when he was an assistant editor at Tracks Post Production when he worked on The Ronnie Johns Half Hour with me back in 2005. And since then he’s worked in the comedy trenches with The Chaser, Tonightly, It’s Not A Race, and of course regularly appearing at A Rational Fear gigs on stage and on the mic.For the first episode of News Fighters for 2023, host Dylan Behan looks back on an oddly quiet summer of news, a lowlight of which was the right’s outrage over Anthony Albanese going to the tennis. Also why Peter Dutton is going to do everything he can to block the Voice to Parliament (hint: because Albo is in favour of it!)News Fighters is a comedic look at Australian news, media and political hypocrisy from TV comedy editor Dylan Behan.  Chip into support the show at http://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearWatch on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/newsfightersListen to old episodes at http://podfollow.com/newsfightersFollow News Fighters on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/newsfighterspod/Follow News Fighters on Twitter: http://twitter.com/NewsfightersPodFollow Dylan on Twitter: http://twitter.com/dylabolicalEmail: [email protected] 0:00  G'day A Rational Fear listeners, Dan Ilic here letting you know that yes, you may have noticed I took the week off last week. That's because I'm currently in both amp amp amp and amp amp. Africa. Not Toto's Africa. But the Bertha Fellowship's Africa. Yes. They flew me out to Cape Town. After supporting the podcast for two years. They they got us all together because of COVID. We weren't able to get together before. But now we're all in one room currently. And who knows if I'll make it back? This was recorded before I left. I might have been mauled by a hippopotamus so impailed by the last ever North African Rhino. Who knows who knows, but in my place, I have a very special treat and once a month, coming up for the next few months, we've got the one and only Dylan bein, who's going to be delivering us a juicy news fighters on this feed once a month get a Dylan get a0:48  Dan, thanks for having me. On your feed. I hope we both get to feed some sumptuous wacky clips.0:56  Yes, yes. For those of you don't know, Dylan is a longtime collaborator of mine is TV editor. He makes wacky clips. He has this incredible podcast called news fighters, which is kind of like the monthly news in a blender. And it's drip fed, through snarky comments. Is that probably is that probably,1:15  yes, yes, it's very much I take the months news in clip form. And I riff on the clips, and it's a very fun time to be had by all and then at the end of the show, I have an interview, which this week is going to be you.1:28  Well, that's how convenient I'm right here. I'm ready to go. This is so amazing. So thank you for continuing on with supporting irrational fear. Your Patreon is actually helping Dylan as well. So we're gonna be getting Dylan some of the Patreon money so please, if you enjoy news fighters and irrational fear chipping in to patreon.com forward slash a rational fear. I'm recording my end of irrational fear. Well, news fighters on on Gadigal Land of the Eora Nation, what land are you on?1:55  I'm also on Gadigal Land of the Eora Nation I believe.1:57  There we go. There you go. This is a very this is a very you're a nation centric show. A lot of people have said that this feed is to your nation century we're gonna get some Naarm in here. Speaking of speaking of other nations, we're going to be up in meanjin. We're going to be in Brisbane on the 26th of March and we're going to be in Adelaide in two weeks. In March for so we'll see you then. Oh, of course. And we'll we'll be in Nam will be in Melbourne performing at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. April 2, so we're dealing with B there'll be a different DJ we hired out of pure convenience and cost sake. We found a DJ there was a DJ in Melbourne. Apparently there are no DJs in Brisbane, there are no comedy DJs in Adelaide and we had to fly them in2:38  Andrew McClellan's a great mate of mine and will arguably do the job better than me. So enjoy that.2:45  All right, here's this month's episode of news fighters.2:47  Let's start the show.2:49  This is News Fighters, where we fight the news so you don't have to with Dylan Behan.2:57  Yes, G'day everyone. Welcome to News fighters. It's episode 121 for February 2023 News Fridays everybody loves it. Tiller on it. For those of you joining us for the very first time news fighters is a comedic look at the month in Australia news media and political hypocrisy hosted by me ex to nightly and chaser editor and 80s Rock Legend. Dylan bein. Yes. And news fighters, of course is now monthly. Here on the irrational fear podcast feed and if you love irrational fear stick around because my interview guest is none other than my new boss, Dan Ilic, who's here to talk about the New South Wales election amongst other things.3:36  I don't mind getting a parking fine. It's in the app. I could I could see it. I can see how many points I've lost by going through that red light. I have any I haven't gone through any red LEDs.3:43   But first Happy New Year's everyone I don't know about you. But to me, it feels like it's the first year where we're not in 2020 anymore. Yes, it's the first summer in four years here in Australia that hasn't been dominated by deadly bushfires, COVID lock downs or scary new variants. Of course the upshot of that is the media has been absolutely scrambling for news stories to report on I mean, look, somehow this made the national news4:06  Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban are making the most of their time here in Australia. It was a recent trip to a kebab shop that had the Hollywood couple wowing locals hereNicole and Keith stopped by manly sucide kebabs for a tasty treat.4:19  And for those of you who believe that long form interrogative interviews died when lease sales left 730 Well, I give you the most confrontational explosive interview since frost Nixon with Sunrise kebabs shop!4:35  How exciting was it to have Nicole and Keith in your store? And most importantly, what did they order?Is there any time of the day when a kebab isn't appropriate?I've got to ask Do you have a specialty tasty dish is something that Keith hasn't tried yet that maybe he should give a go4:54  may I'm gonna get him to try the lamb kebab.4:58  What a story. How Good, good on you.5:00  And thanks for the great kebabs. Oh, that'd be studying that interview a journalism school for decades to come. And in international news this summer there was almost a major diplomatic incident as a mysterious foreign balloon was spotted over America. 5:14  Bluey the lovable Blue Heeler pup from Australia is making her debut in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. 5:21  Yes, fun fact though. bluey was actually Australia's first balloon in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade since the Babadook. In 2015. Summer of course is also the season of sport in this country and the New Year's cricket test in Sydney gave us a telling sign that maybe COVID is finally behind us.5:37  Matt Renshaw has actually tested positive to COVID. Now he will play but he's keeping a safe distance and he is in the starting 11 Of course he will play and it will play a full part. 5:48  Yes, that's right at the third test against South Africa and Sydney. Australian cricketer Matthew Renshaw tested positive to COVID and played anyway. never even bothered to put a mask on well, that Scott Morrison would say Australia is literally6:03  Taking wickets in the virus! They are indeed6:06  indeed indeed taking wickets with the virus and batting with the virus and standing 50 centimeters away I'm asked from the other players during the national anthem at the virus. We now do everything with the virus someone else who's definitely over COVID is the today's shows Karl Stefanovic6:20  As you know, I'm not a glowing ambassador for more than two shots I've just decided that I've had COVID A couple of times and I'm done with the vaccines6:28  wow what a surprise a millionaire TV host with paid sick leave doesn't want to get vaccinated anymore. Well let's find by me all the more jobs for me if I get sick with COVID again I can't afford to pay my rent so I'd be happy to fight waning immunity with the job every morning with my coffee yum yum tasty vaccines Nom nom nom one country that isn't completely over COVID yet, though, is China which only just rip the band aid off its COVID Zero policy in December which led to Australia having to take some steps to protect itself.6:52  The federal government has today acted on concerns about China's surging COVID cases, announcing that travelers arriving from there will be required to take a pre departure COVID test.7:05  Yes, that's right. Incoming travelers from China were required to take a COVID test before coming to Australia. But why exactly if it turned out they were positive? They're legally allowed to do whatever they wanted here. Oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Lee, it appears as though you've tested positive for COVID. Well, on your way, enjoy your shopping trip. Oh, one more thing. Is there any chance you could just do us a favor and wear a set of cricket pads and bed in the test this afternoon? That'd be great. And if I saw one sign that the media has definitely moved on from COVID It was the site of the ABCs Chief COVID alarmist and do manga Dr. Norman Swan out doing fluffy lifestyle reports.7:41  Welcome to the program. Later we'll see Dr. Norman Swan in an ice bath.7:50  ARARAGH !Well, I can't pretend there's no cold. It is frizzy.7:54  Jays a slight change in tone from his reports this time three years ago, don't you think 7:59  If you let the pandemic go unchecked, huge numbers won't be able to receive treatment and will die! // It's not just the elderly who die. It's 30 and 40 year old with no obvious risk factors.8:11  We're all Gonna die!8:12  Well anyways, thank God we moved on and nobody is dying from COVID anymore. Thank God right.8:18  Right now COVID is putting 50 times more Australians in hospital than the flu and killing between 50 and 100 times more people.8:26  Meanwhile, the ABCs Chief COVID statistician Casey Briggs has even been demoted to reading other boring news stories. Evening Casey breaks with ABC News.8:35  Former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd will soon be headed to Washington as Australia's next ambassador to the United States.8:42  Dr. Rudd brings unmatched experience to the role.8:45  Hang on a second. Dr. Rudd? Dr. Rudd? Wha what is he a doctor of backstabbing and handball? Anyways, it turns out Dr. road wasn't the only nerd that our prime minister had to contend with this summer.8:57  One of the world's richest people. Bill Gates is meeting with Prime Minister Anthony Albanese at kirribilli. House9:03  We haven't met before but I've admired your work.9:08  Yes. Turns out Albert is a big fan of gates early work, especially Clippy the talking paperclip and of course, the Microsoft Windows calculator without which elbow never could have done the numbers against Gillard. True fact. It wasn't just all nerd talk. There were some actual policy announcements from the federal government this summer. Like this one, the federal government9:26  is promising to usher in a new era of support for Australia's creative industries with a $300 million boost to arts funding. The five year plan includes the establishment of a poet laureate9:38  Yes. And knowing Federal Labor I can probably guess who they're going to pick is their first poet laureate. I guess he's a certain ex Prime Minister 9:46  (BEEP) (BEEP) This language! These dickheads in the embassy This bloody interpreter! (BANG)9:54  Oh, what a beautiful way with words! Move over ,Carol Ann Duffy. Look her up. The liberals of course are absolutely incensed that Anthony Albanese would prioritize the arts. Of all things. He is Deputy Liberal leader Sussan Ley.10:09  The Arts is important, but this announcement demonstrates the government's misplaced priorities. They're promised an art gallery in Alice Springs. And what Alice Springs needs. Is more police on the streets.10:23  Yes. How dare the government talk about the arts when there's any other problems occurring. The Liberals have decided the current Alice Springs Crime Wave is Anthony Albanese is Hawaii moment that he must be hammered on. At every opportunity for getting Of course, last I checked, crime is a local issue, not a federal one. And Prime Ministers aren't Santa Claus and can't be everywhere all at once. Instead, the coalition and the Murdoch media are all asking How dare Albanese spend any time anywhere other than our springs, doesn't he know His job is to be fighting crime. 24/7 like Batman,10:57  the Prime Minister spend a lot of time at the tennis having enjoying corporate hospitality. But there are pressing issues in relation to the safety of Indigenous Australians in Alice Springs.11:12  So the prime minister should visit Alice Springs,11:15  there are tennis matches that went longer than Anthony Albanese, his visit on the ground in Alice Springs.11:22  You know, of course no sign of Albo. He's not interested. He did his couple hours on the ground off he went to the tennis to chuck back beers.11:31  And as long at the Mardi Gras as he managed to spend, certainly not as long as he spent at the tender but that was just look at the optics of this look at this being at some massives colorful celebration in the streets of Sydney when the absolute mess that labor have helped contribute to both at federal level and territory level in the in Northern Territory and particularly Alice Springs has not been solved here11:58  to have Sky News as our lucky you know, their coalition have been in power for roughly 21 of the last 27 years. But every current societal problem is a direct result of the last nine months of the Albanese Labour Government. Why haven't they fixed everything already? Also, don't you think it's funny how the liberals hate Anthony Albanese attending the tennis but never had an issue with all the time Scott Morrison attended the footy, even like say in mid March 2020 when Australia was facing its biggest crisis in generations, with COVID lapping at our shores. On the same day Morrison announced he was banning mass gatherings. He also said Of course, I'm going to the footy this weekend.12:36  Welcome to the program mass gatherings of more than 500 people are said to be canceled from Monday as Australian authorities tried to limit the spread of Coronavirus.12:45  Well, I do still plan to go to the football on Saturday as I said because this is a an arrangement we're putting in place for next week as a precaution.12:54  Anyway, speaking of massive hypocrites this week we had Oh yes, you hear that? It's the honeymoon ending for the Albanese government.13:01  The government has rejected calls for communications minister Michelle Rowland to resign after she accepted $19,000 in donations from a gambling agency before the federal election13:12  I have and will continue to comply with the disclosure requirements of the ASC the register of members interests and the ministerial code of conduct13:20  no need to worry the Communications Minister complied with all the necessary political financing rules, which proves our entire political system is corrupted by money. And nobody wants to do anything about it. But personally, I'm amazed nobody saw this coming when the sports bed app actually listed Michelle Rowland as the two to one favorite for being the first labour minister to resign in disgrace. Dammit, I knew I should have gone for a same sitting week multi. Anyways, back to indigenous reconciliation. And last week was the 15th anniversary of Dr. Rudd's apology to the Stolen Generations. And I'll give you one guess who couldn't be bothered turning up yet again.14:00  Noticeably absent from the anniversary breakfast this morning. Peter Dutton says he wishes he made a different choice in 2008,14:08  The Prime Minister's frequently able to point it out that I didn't attend the chamber for the apology 15 years ago. I've apologized for that in the past. And I repeat that apology again today.14:21  Yes, make sure you don't invite Peter Dutton to your wedding or he'll boycott it on purpose and apologize. But Miss your 50th anniversary party on purpose again anyway, you know, like a normal emotionally stable and empathetic human being does.14:32  I failed to grasp at the time, the symbolic significance to the stolen generation of the apology?14:39  Yes. Peter Dutton says he finally grasps the symbolic significance of the apology. So you think it might be supportive of the even more significant voice to Parliament that's being proposed? Right.14:50  I think the voice is not going to get up. I don't think it's going to be successful. I want an outcome that's going to bring an end to the violence this sexual assaults on children taking place in Alice Springs at the moment I want reconciliation to improve in our country. I don't want to see the escalation of domestic violence that we've seen. And I want a model that is going to help those kids enjoy the life that I would expect my kids to enjoy in a capital city. Yes,15:19  that's right. Peter Dutton is basically saying is not going to support the voice to Parliament because it doesn't solve all the problems facing all indigenous people immediately, you know, like his government was famous for fixing. Anyways, it's quickly becoming abundantly clear that the main reason Peter Dutton and the coalition are going to oppose the voice is because Anthony Albanese is in favor of it. And for all their endless talk about wanting outcomes that improve people's lives, they've quickly forgotten that in their last decade in power, the only lives they seem to improve with the lives of landlords, CEOs and shareholders. Hilariously, people like Peter Dutton and indigenous Coalition Senator Jacinto Nampijinpa Price, have declared their opposition to the voice while simultaneously saying that what indigenous people need is for their voice to somehow be heard by political leaders in Canberra. Wait,16:08  what if there was a strong indigenous voice coming out of the Northern Territory at the moment that they want the Prime Minister to lead to act, and to help them out that the Prime Minister is not listening to that voice? Then I think most Australians would say, Well, what? Why not?16:21  We don't need a voice. We need ears we need we need our leadership to have to use their ears and to listen to community if16:30  I want to make sure that those voices who have the ability to make the changes and the practical outcomes and the improvements for kids and women's and families on the ground that that's the voice that I want to hear.16:41  Yeah, maybe done and price it right. If only there was some way indigenous people could be regularly consulted or listened to by our parliament, on the issues that affect them. What? Why isn't anybody thought of a way to do this? If they figure it out? Maybe we could vote on it in a referendum, maybe Donlin price would support that right. So in conclusion, it looks like the political year is beginning to take shape. We've got an opposition determined to set reconciliation back an entire generation just so they can score some political points against a popular new prime minister. We've got a new government whose modus operandi appears to be nothing more than appearing slightly less corrupt than the other guys they replaced and all the while the media is more focused on what kebab shop our Hollywood stars when to than holding any of these politicians to account. Good on you. And thanks for the great kebabs. I know it's only February, but right now the political landscape in Australia feels so mean and dirty. It makes me want to have a prolonged ice bath. Right, Norman Swan? Happy 2023 Everyone. All righty, welcome back to news fighters. And this month, our special interview guest I haven't had him on for two years. Believe it or not. It's an old friend of mine, the host of irrational fear Dan Ilic, the man with whom comedy would not exist in Australia. How are you going down?18:04  That's very generous of you. Yes. I actually I actually, I actually made comedy. I invented comedy in Australia. Anybody who wants to do comedy in18:12  half of the weekly last week was people you discovered.18:16  That's it? Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, yeah. Why isn't a weekly got me on I've been I mean, I've been doing this for so long. Go, oh, my goodness, this is the problem. This is the problem. No, you're welcome. You're welcome, Australia. I find I shot I polish them up and I let them go. That's what's my job. That's a job at irrational fear. No, we are very lucky to have a lot of funny people come through a rational fear and, and a lot of people whose careers are just coasting like my own. So, you know, it's just one of those things. It's, you know, they say you do irrational fear twice in your career. Unlike me, it's turned out to be my whole career. So they18:50  normally I'd have you on to discuss a rational fear. But given that we're now on the irrational fear podcasts read, I think people are already subscribed to irrational fear and are quite familiar with it.19:00  That's right. That's right. And if you're not, I'm really sorry, this is going to be this would have been a very confusing episode for you. Because this is news spiders, this, we're basically getting Dylan on to do the show once a month means one, I can have a week off once a month. And to Dylan has a place for his excellent show, and he can get paid to do it. That's when that's the great thing about this show.19:25  So in lieu of talking to you about irrational fear, which everyone knows about, I guess we'll get to plugging the upcoming events at the end. But I figured we'd talk maybe about your a great news brand, your great politics brain. I thought maybe we'd look ahead of the year in news and politics and maybe a few, a few predictions. I guess. I guess first off, we're gonna have the New South Wales State election in March. You quite familiar with the tail movement at the last federal election? What's going to happen in the state election? We're gonna get some TEALS up are we going to, are we going to get rid of pyrrhotite? What's what's going to happen to you reckon?19:59  I mean, there's a half which he was running. So it gets really tricky because unlike the federal election, there is no mandate for preferential voting. So there's no rules on preferential preferential voting. It's optional. It's optional. Yeah, it's optional. Yeah. So it gets really confusing. And so people will just go in there and they'll just put a one next to whoever they want and walk away. Whereas if they go through the whole ballot and label every single candidate box with a number, there are more chances that a candidate like an independent climate focus candidate, like the many of the climate 200 candidates will will get in. I reckon there's probably a lot of energy around a couple, particularly up in the northern beaches, Jackie screwby is running up there. It seems like she could probably pull together a really compelling campaign and find herself with a seat. So that's exciting. On the podcast, we had Judy Hannon from Wheeling, Billy Shire, and the Southern Highlands last week. So if you listen, if you listen to that, or if you're new to the podcast, go back and listen to that. Really interesting chat with her about how effective she might be able to be if she got a seat. And then there's a couple of others. Lane Cove has a couple of other North Shore seats that may that made her entail, but I think I think screwby is probably probably the most likely she's up and on the beaches. She comes from Sophie sconces campaign she was the Chief of Staff of Sophie sconces campaign back in the day. She is an ex Environmental Defense Lawyer. She knows climate back to front she is very much across Pep 11 which is the big fossil fuel project off the northern beaches. So there's a whole bunch of stuff that plays into her favor and not to say less she is benefiting from Sophie sconces huge grassroots campaign and a mailing list and volunteers. So that's a really interesting one. And that one will be I think I look, I think that'd be a shoo in. If she doesn't get in, I'll be very surprised.22:00  but correct me if I'm wrong. I noticed the TEALS at the federal election, there was a big anti scomo Anti liberal movement, but I feel like Britain correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe I'm brainwashed here, but I feel like the New South Wales liberals are definitely wearing their green on their on their sleeves. They're trying to try and be a bit more green than than the federal Liberals. Is that a fair assumption? 22:21  No, that is an accurate assumption. And they've played that card really well. You see a lot of great initiatives from New South Wales and partly because, you know, the New South Wales actually minority government right now. So they need to, they need to collaborate with a whole bunch of the other parties. So mainly the independents people like Alex Greenwich, and the greens so by it's kind of funny because the Liberals are forming coalition's with the greens in New South Wales so they can so they can go against labour that is kind of that is kind of that's kind of the fun, weird coalition we're in right now. Another interesting thing that passed was not only on climate, stuff, like raise the renewable energy zone up in north eastern New South Wales, which got passed. But stuff like really interesting social stuff, like the end of life stuff that was going on. For euthanasia in New South Wales that got passed as well. This is all because despite having an open estate Premier, who is personally morally against it, they ended up voting for it, because they are in minority government. So that's, it's kind of a interesting position that they're in right now. So realistically, it's the, it's the other groups in the in parliament that are holding the Liberals account to kind of get stuff done. So they can go about their day pretending that they are grain, but really, the grain has been pushed upon them upon the grains by the grains and the independence. So it'll be interesting to see kind of how that how that changes. Should the Liberals get out like, they're gonna go against the renewable energy zone, they still are processing a whole bunch of coal and gas projects, and they're still going out the door and, and also, when it comes to development, they're still over developing precious habitat for chlamydia free koalas. So there's this interesting case in southwest Sydney, where they've moved a whole bunch of koalas or they're trying to move a whole bunch of koalas out of Southwest Sydney, and move them to a sanctuary in the southern highlands, which happens to be owned by the same land as the developer for the development of the land development. So this is a whole bunch of stuff that when it comes to the environment, they weigh the flag and say, hey, yeah, we're super green. But really, when you look at it, it's get down to brass tacks. It's it's it's not as green as you think. So it'll be interesting to see kind of how that how that plays out. I don't know if the till movement can mobilize the same amount of anger back to your question against Dominic ParaType. And Matt Cain along those same lines. It'll be interesting to see I, you know, they're they're passionate, they're fired up. And when you've got brains like Jackie screwby, who know, climate back to front, I wouldn't be surprised if they're successful.24:54  You mean so after 12 years in power, and on our fourth Premier, do you think that The Liberals could could could win again or will will, will people think of elbow when they vote for Labour at the state election and labor cuts across the planet? So it's hard to say it's going to be a quite honestly,25:09  I honestly don't know, for me, it feels pretty ephemeral. Like I can't get a grip, I can't get a grip on it at all, in terms of what the electorate is feeling because here's the thing, anyone who's lived in New South Wales for a long period of time knows what life is like under a Labour government. A lot of particularly around infrastructure, what liberals have done have delivered huge amounts of infrastructure in 12 years, they've, they've made the best use of at the time, low interest rates, and they've digitized the entire they've completely revolutionized service New South Wales digitize services. It's actually a joy to interact with the government.25:48  We all love US dollars on the app that we scanned and got free bowling.25:54  I don't mind getting a parking fine. It's in the app. I could I could see it, I can see how many points I've lost by going through that red light. I've only I haven't gone through any red lights. But it's so I can see my working with children. In the app, everything's on the app. And it's such a joy to do that. And you know, that's something they've delivered. I'm sure a lot of governments over the last 10 years have done that. It's the exact same thing, but particularly it comes to infrastructure. You know, 12 years ago, there wasn't a metro. There wasn't a new, it wasn't open cards. There were there wasn't Opal cards. Yeah. And remember, labor trying to bring those things in. It was a real ball like it took forever. The disputes were off the chain, where where the Metro is going to go was off the chain was all dreadfully political. But somehow the Liberals managed to pull off a huge amount of infrastructure. In 10 years, the state feels almost a little bit different. But you know, the the dawn talking about Sydney? Of course, not talking about outside of outside of Sydney,26:52  People outside of Sydney will talk about lots of problems with the hospitals and healthcare and stuff. So it's very difficult. Sydney.27:00  Yeah, it's very different outside the metro areas, that's for sure. But yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty interesting. I don't know it could go either way. And yet, is New South Wales ready for a Labour Government? is probably how I would word it if I were running an attack this week.27:23  It's interesting. Seems27:24  he looks like a male model.27:27  But can he be trusted with a budget? I think most people in New South Wales New South Wales is the least parochial state in the country. I think we care the least about local pot state politics is anyone so I think most people don't even know the elections on and when they do go to vote. They'll be like, well, I like the new tunnel. So I might vote for that. Who knows?27:47  Yeah, I like paying $10 driving through the new tunnel. It's wonderful. Thank you.27:52  We'll see what happens. Yeah. And on the world stage, we've got two big things this year. We've got the king Charles's coronation in May. And cop 28 is in Dubai. Let's get the Patreon funded up and go to these. I'm all for it. What are your patreon.com/irrational Fear everyone jump on it? What do you reckon?28:11  Dylan? Let me tell you this. When the Queen died, and everyone had to replace their portrait of the Queen with the king, we bought two from the Australian Monica Association and I promised to give them out to anybody in the next two weeks, who signed up to the Patreon. No one signed up to the portrait, a framed portrait of King Charles no one signed up I think I think I've done the testing. I've done the American market research. This audience does not care about King Charles we are not we are definitely not going to be covering this kind of 28:41  I'll hang it up behind you all hang out on my wall here. I've got a nice space here.28:45  I mean, how many spaces okay, but there's not enough room for his hands, his hands, he's fat fingers really take up a lot of space.28:52  His ears take up the whole coin as well.28:55  But cup 28 in Dubai, it's one of the not one of the big cups. So I don't think we would have been going there either. But I think there's there will be a cup and a couple of years in Australia. And we are actively going to get behind that to get a cup to Australia. So I'm really looking forward to that. That's for me in terms of cops coming up getting the cop to Australia, the Pacific countries in Australia co hosting a cop potentially in Brisbane. I reckon that's a great way to get active and get meaningful action on climate when it's in your own country. I think that's going to be pretty good. And as Australia's still probably one of the worst fossil fuel exporters one of the worst scope three emitters probably second or third to Russia and Saudi Arabia. That is that is the number one priority. You know, imagine if we could use that cup to limit fossil fuel exports and and wretched back fossil fuel exports over the next 10 years that will be something meaningful for the world. It's pretty interesting, but can I play you a hello Darius wacky clip. I don't know if you found this yet. This is a climate related wacky clip. This is from liberal Senator Alex antic, who's asking a question of the Home Affairs boss, Mike Zullo, where the department's focus on climate change as a national security risk is parody accommodate this, this is really quite enjoyable from Alex antic,30:23  to Missoula. your opening statement here, which sort of front of me, you made mention of the fact that the department's work extends to dealing with the effects of climate change? Yes. And to better position Australia to deal with the increasing exposure and vulnerabilities into nationally significant crises, including those due to climate change with the greatest of respect, is it? Is that comedy parody? Or is that serious?I'm not are you referring to a question that you've asked me? I don't understand. Idon't know the suggestion that the Department of Home Affairs is somehow prioritizing. The issue of climate change is that I'm not sureif you've noticed, the increasing frequency and severity of weather events were responsible in supporting the Minister for emergency management happens to be at the table with policy and legislative advice. My colleague, the coordinator, General of NEMA that was questioned this morning then delivers programs I genuinely don't know how to respond to or other oddly put question, you asked me whether it's comedy, it's my job, but I don't really understand what you're asking.31:35  They're just amazing. It's like everyone's house is being destroyed. Not an issue of national security. Taking tweezers on an airplane very important issue of national security.31:46  Yeah, and the millions of people that are going to come to Australia after they become climate refugees, definitely not part of Home Affairs. No, no, no. This is a here's another great clip from that said it estimates as well. Senator antic again.32:01  Well, Mr. Padilla Is it safe then to say that the department has been captured by leftist ideology?32:11  I'm looking forward to hearing this answer.32:15  Yes, the Department of Homeland affairs is akin to the greens you might as well have Adam bet running the Home Affairs Department.32:21  Oh my goodness, that was them laughing not us. Like even they felt.32:26  That was that was my Palooza laughing at the dumb question.32:29  And before we go, that I think what's going to be the biggest issue of the year it's looking like inflation and interest rates. How do we how do we stop inflation from going out of control, any tips, any thoughts, any ideas,32:41  you need to speed up on the spending Dylan You need to spend more and one way you can spend more is going to patreon.com forward slash irrational fear and drop us $3 A month of your hard earned cash and we kick the show on the road or more.32:55  You can choose a higher amount you don't have to choose one of the tiers you can choose a higher amount yet.32:59  Yeah, that's right. I hear there's a there's a famous comedian in the US they have a Patreon they would say earn like $300,000 a year on oh sorry, $300,000 a month. And the top tier is called the Rothschild team. We don't have that. But you know, if you pay us $500 a month, we will come into a show live for you somewhere.33:21  All right. So just plug well. What's coming up with irrational fear in the near future. There's some we're going on tour. There's some great gigs coming up and what's the rest of the year look like as33:29  well. You can go catch us in Adelaide at the Adelaide Fringe Festival. And then you can catch us at Brisbane in queue pack for the World Science Festival. Dylan, we have got incredible guests at that festival, including yourself Louis harbor. Mel Buddle is doing that show also Mark Humphries and we have a very special scientist from NASA joining us her name is her name is Dr. Christiansen Dr. Jesse Christiansen and she worked on the JW S T. The James Webb Space Telescope and she currently is building a habitat for exoplanets. This is incredible data set where all the data for every exoplanet they discover goes into this huge database. And people can look it up and find exoplanets and learn more about them which is amazing. So it's it's incredible. We're going to talk to her about aliens, life forms, looking into deep space and working on database T and working at NASA. She's Australian, so it's very exciting to have her on the show. Oh yes. And then of course April 2, we've got the Melbourne International Comedy Festival that is a huge show with call that show. irrational fear has too many guests because it's a 60 minute show, and we have too many guests for 60 minutes. Everyone's going to be limited to about five minutes each. But we'll figure out how that goes as we go along. We've got Luis myself. Andy McClinton is DJ Viraj and is doing sketches we've also gotten that's what I recommend Gabby bolt and Alice phrase and also, Grace team is joining us again as well semi Shah. So another huge, huge show that shows already About 30% sold, so please get you tickets to that one that's gonna definitely sell35:03  out. And everyone stay subscribed because you'll have news faders on here monthly as well, including Big wrap of the New South Wales State election next month. Dan, thanks for having me on. As I'm having you on. Congratulations.35:19  As you say me podcaster you su casa. You've heard Sue podcast. Yeah.35:26  All right. Thanks, Dan. 35:28  Good to be with you. 35:31  Alrighty, that's news fighters for February 2023. Don't forget you can catch us every month here on the irrational fear podcast feed or watch us on YouTube at youtube.com/news fighters. Don't forget to hit subscribe and leave a comment or review. A big thank you to Dan Ilic for stopping by and also thanks to Tom Huaville for our sparkling new graphics. As always, these photos is written and produced and edited by me Dylan Bane for irrational fear. You can follow me on Twitter at dylabolical or email me Dylan at newsfighters.com. Don't forget, if you like the show, please support the show to keep us running by chipping in at patreon.com/irrational fear that's now patreon.com/irrational Fear and if you want to listen to one of our 120 old episodes, search for news photos on your podcast feed or you can buy our bonus Patreon episodes at us fighters.bandcamp.com. You can also find us on social media we're on Twitter and Instagram at newsfighterspod or on Facebook. But who cares about Facebook and if you hate social media, we have our own little newsletter saying what I'm up to which you can subscribe to for free at newsfighters.com All these links and the transcript are in the show notes. See you next month when I'm gonna be wrapping up and previewing the New South Wales State election. Thanks for listening, keep fighting. And bye for now.36:58  This is News fighters where we fight the news so you don't have to.37:05  Is there any time of the day when it kebap isn't appropriate?Transcribed by https://otter.aiA Rational Fear on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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What does Clive Palmer do now? — Osher Gunsberg, Floyd Alexander-Hunt, Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba + Judy Hannan

What does Clive Palmer do now? — Osher Gunsberg, Floyd Alexander-Hunt, Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba + Judy Hannan

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOWSG’day Fearmongers —Happy Superbowl weekend, we have juicy podcast served with a side of ranch dressing and celery sticks — BUT before we get to that, you should know:Tickets are on sale now for A Rational Fear live in a city near you!Adelaide Fringe —  March 4thBrisbane World Science Festival — March 26thMelbourne International Comedy Festival — APRIL 2ndWe’ve got great line-ups for each show. And we have a limited number of discounted tickets for podcast listeners for Adelaide and Melbourne: “PODCAST” is the code.On the podcast this week we have some wonderful guests:Osher GunsbergFloyd Alexander-HuntLewis HobbaDan Ilic + we warm up for the NSW elections with the Independant Candidate for Wollondilliy and The Southern Highlands, Judy Hannan. We talk about Clive Palmer’s failed mine bid.How to save Australia Post.New Zealand’s HUGE cocaine haul.EXTRA FEAR only on the Patreon & Apple Subscription — we talk Alan Tudge's resignation.🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOWS 0:00  This podcast is supported in part by Australian ethical. Good morning or good evening, Lewis.0:06  Hello. Yes, good, good. Whatever day off time time of day this finds you.0:12  It's a flat circle. No one, no one really has a good handle on time. Time is irrelevant. Now, there was an article in the BBC saying that time is a construct, we actually time doesn't actually exist, which I have to0:23  agree that in the BBC before that when you like, Oh, I thought God gave it to us.0:30  Other time was brought down by Neptune. Neptune gave us time. Big news, Louis. You You know this news, by the way. Oh, yeah. But you are a new dad. This is so exciting. Congratulations.0:43  Thank you. It's actually so rare that when you tell me that we have news that I actually am across a rare and precious fact. Yes. thrilled. I have a five week old daughter her name's olive. She's a really good baby, but pretty into her. And that's why I've been away for the law. I missed last week. I tried to join kinda, but it was a mess. It's also I genuinely have no idea what's happening. Like, whatever comes up today will be relatively new information.1:10  Great. It'd be fresh years and we really, yeah, well, it means also, the Patreon is more important than ever, because we've got more mouths to feed, we gotta feed olive. I don't give Lewis any of the Patreon money but the point is, you know, in principle, chipping, chipping, like Nick or rock voiceover actor who was in last week's episode, he just I wanted to give him money. He said, No, I'm gonna give you money and become a patreon supporter. Thank you, Nick. David Bluestein. Comedian and game developer also signed up for Patreon this week. Thank you, Dave Lewis, we've got some live shows so you can spend less time with your new family around the country. Adelaide is happening in four weeks Andrew Hanson, Gabby Bolte, Alice, Fraser Lewis and myself. Then we've got April 2 at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Huge show. Gabby Alice Grace time Vidya Rajan. That's what I reckon Sammy Shah, and then Brisbane, coming up at the end of March with a huge show for World Science Festival. Mark Humphries. Mel bottle Mandy, darlin Lewis and myself. Also, Louis, we are talking with onstage live. Someone who is a Brisbane native Her name is Dr. Jesse Christianson sees the head of the NASA exoplanet library. And she works on the JW S T. She's probably one of the smartest people we've ever had on the show. So it's very excited. We have we've had some smart people on the show. You know, we've had that the Bondi hipsters. We've had Dr.2:30  Cow. I don't even understand what her job is what from what you've just told me like, well, it's an exoplanet. I guess we'll have to wait and see.2:37  We'll have to wait and see in Brisbane. So that's exciting. Anyway, join us in Brisbane at the end of March. It's going to be very exciting. I'm recording mine of irrational fear on Gadigal land in the urination. Sovereignty was never seated. When did a treaty Let's start the show.2:48  A rational fear contains naughty words like bricks. Canberra, fed gum and section 40 of a rational view recommended listening by immature audiences.3:02  Tonight family reunions breakout across the world as Twitter outage causes people to put down their phones and pay attention to their loved ones for one hour and sports bit paid $9,000 for the communications minister on election Eve paid for dinner Minister Roland said it wasn't lobbying. It was just the same dinner multi and former Prime Minister Tony Abbott joins a climate sceptic Think Tank A sentence that makes more sense in the phrase former Prime Minister Tony Abbott. It's the ninth of February 2023. And this is the only media outlet that is not sued by Ben Robert Smith. This is irrational fear.Welcome to rational feet. I'm your host, former Green Senator Dan Ilic. And this is the podcast that takes the news and puts it into blender with some protein powder. Let's meet our fear mongers for tonight. She's put on hold the money and the stability of being a lawyer for something much more exciting. Yes, she's a comedian Floyd Alexander. Hi and welcome to irrational fear.4:07  Thanks so much for having me back.4:09  Look, my pleasure look why why shouldn't comedy be the backup job here? Shouldn't you be you know, all gung ho for a for a proper career in law, that's where the money is a short4:18  I think it's that my parents were really it was it was like, when I said I was gonna do law, they were really disappointed in me. So I was like, I was very confused.4:31  And his career is long serving, but his hip is brand new. It's broadcaster podcaster and Rose distributor. Asha, Gunzburg. Asha. You've got a new haircut. Are you planning on any more upgrades in the future? No, I'm4:42  actually I might hit number. I've walked on hip number one and hit number five. There was yeah, it's been a long and winding journey but I'm finally here tonight. And I'm grateful that none of you got that guy Sebastian Australian Idol season one job but fine. That's it No, I'm not planning on any more upgrades.5:02  I was listening out for the words battle and scars Asha I couldn't hear battle and scars together in a sentence so totally love5:09  never get behind me at the airport. I will always, always be touched by security guy every time for the rest of my life.5:17  It feels like you've been a contestant on like the grandad bachelor where instead of giving metal hips5:24  pretty much I brought this great misconception, Louis as I never actually touched the roses. I just can't touch the5:35  drug deal. I like it. The development of drug dealer kingpin never touches the gear. He's the only broadcaster at Triple J who gets called Daddy, it's Louis harbour5:44  I did beforehand as well. So writing right on through5:49  coming up later, we are getting warmed up for the New South Wales state elections we're gonna be chatting with independent candidate for a while and really shy and the Southern Highlands Judy Hannon will ask her is the gumnut Bakery overrated. But first heard this message from this week's sponsor?6:04  Hi, Peter Dutton here, I'm calling on albeau to provide more information of the indigenous voice to Parliament, but not in the format of a 270 page report. That's too much information. And not in a format of a series of one on one consultations from constitutional experts and the Prime Minister himself. That information is to oral and as you know, I've heard of listening, which is why I refuse to hear members of my own party advocating for a yes position. You could try to make a pamphlet with pictures that move when you pull a little tab, but it'll go straight into the shredder. If a report, briefings, conventions, pamphlets, a decade of development, and even lobbying from my own party won't convince me Peter Dutton, maybe there's another reason that a former Queensland cop is against an indigenous voice to Parliament. I just can't put my finger on it. But if I did, I'd have to vocalise it, and then I'd have to sue myself for defamation. And maybe that's the only detail that's missing. elbow7:10  arthroscopy. Yeah, that that sketch was sent off to legal I don't know if it'll make it onto the internet as a whole, but I think it would be safe for the podcast,7:21  Lloyd legal7:25  aid as a lawyer here. So as a comedian, I say very funny.7:30  Dad as someone who the current live show I'm doing was based upon that history of being sued by people such as the one that was not in that sketch. They said, You need to read a disclaimer before you do your live show. I'm standing on stage like I'm saying grace before me or reading a disclaimer. But, Dan, I that is an amazing I love you.7:53  Alright, this week's first fear in a big win for the environment. Tanya Plibersek has killed off Clive Palmer's war retired coal mine saying that the earth can't sustain a coal mine and Clive Palmer at the same time. It's a win, but also not really a win. Yeah, since 2000 7000. projects were referred to the government under the Environmental Protection biodiversity act. Of those 7013 were refused in 20 years. Presumably, there are 6987 projects that were greenlit, it was said that the real reason that Clive Palmer's mine was refused was because it was the site was about 10 kilometres from the Great Barrier Reef not because Clive Palmer campaigned against the Labour government in the last three elections over the last decade. No, not that not that reason at all. So there are also 117 new fossil fuel projects on the table by companies who are probably aren't as annoying to labour as Clive Palmer, the real test will be will Labour prevent those projects from going ahead to save the planet or just let them slide because they didn't spend $140 million against them in the last election? fear mongers if you were Clive Palmer this week, what would you be doing to kind of save your karma? Well,9:01  I mean, first you take a breath or if you Clive, along, deep, shattering breath. And then I imagine he would go up to his little attic and get his big paws, grab a couple of little tweezers and start building his tiny little Titanic three that he hasn't started.9:21  I mean, it does make sense this guy who started like a dinosaur park, I mean, he all he wanted to do was dig up old dinosaurs and burn them and put them in the sky. This is this is that was the completion of his dream.9:32  It's a stunning turn of events. And I can only imagine that just packets of Tim Tams. Were just terrified at that moment that hit the news. Have you ever seen him do the Tim Tams? It's terrifying footage.9:44  I'm sorry you haven't explained? What do you mean? Do the Tim Tams.9:48  Floyd knows what I'm talking about. Go and enjoy. Your Google cookies will never be the same once you write Clive Palmer each packet of Tim Tams.9:57  Right does the Tim turn9:59  off his private jet and essentially it was amazing. I think it's like it's a it's a ballsy move. It's a ballsy move for a man that is, you know, prepared to put hundreds of millions of dollars on kind of like, I don't know, it's kind of Insell looking dudes standing at the side of the street holding big yellow signs for months, and to be shut down like that is pretty cool. Is it going to happen again? I'd like to hope so. Because you're going to have to back that up. You're gonna have to go well, you can't do it either. And neither neither can you. It's a monster move. I'd like to see it happen more and see some sort of, I don't know maybe Clive. Do you see the writing on the wall Clive to just get into some green energy they call it a battery factory there's money to be made buddy10:40  hate that is true.10:42  I feel like I can do it with other cases where it's like oh yeah, it's 2000 kilometres from Great Barrier Reef but that's still too close just anything it like in on the side of the world of Great Barrier Reef banking just use that as precedent10:55  I just say that the same atmosphere like the same exact the same atmosphere get like the the ocean leashes the same carbon out of the same atmosphere as matter where the fuck on the planet.11:06  A long game like obviously Clive with Titanic too, is that his big focus and the mining is really just a side operation. I've never put these things together. But is there a chance that he's mining is really a long game for Titanic too, because he thinks the only way I can make sure this ship doesn't sink. Icebergs left anyway.11:29  I say I see what you're going to. Like when the West Antarctic Ice Sheet finally collapses. maiden voyage, Jack and Rose. We're doing it again. But this time, it's11:43  we have to complete a series of tasks to weed roses affection. And if he does, yeah, guess who hands out the raw11:52  rational fear when the day comes that most surely will when Titanic to sales into New York, you'll be able to say that you are here.12:02  This week. Second fear Australia Post is set to declare its first loss since 2015. Yes, profit is down for the first six months by 88%. Australia Post says that let us continue to decline at an unstoppable rate. And the company said quote, they're at a crossroads and the headwinds they are facing have never been stronger. And because they were so confused by the crossroads and the headwinds, they've just left a card and returned back to the Depo. And I also say by the end of the decade, the average Australian household receives less than one letter a week fair Mungus How can we save Australia Post12:39  so they said by the by 2030 Australian households received one letter a week that's impressive given Australia's going to be underwater by that is actually an achievement. first idea is that they sell other people's mail, because like I don't want to open my own mail. I want to open other people's mail. And12:57  this is the new format. Asha is trying to develop a new a new TV format. Get rid of the news format. No one wants news, comedy Asha, we've tried here, what people want is what's inside this strangers letter.13:11  Reality show13:12  they could also just start renting out post offices. You know, Sydney rent is so high just start like renting out the offices, you13:19  can honestly rent out the postbox for like 500 a week at the moment, literally. What about if we start using the little motorbikes for like Uber as well? If you go, Hey, I really just need to go down the street. And they're like, Oh, great. That's where I'm going anyway. And then you hop on the back. They deliver a few letters on the way it's like Uber pool,13:35  why not? They have the infrastructure. They have the pipeline. They have the staff, they know how to give a smack out to an angry Labrador. They know what they're doing. Also, we can easily stop the flow of WR X's coming in and out of Western Sydney all the way into the eastern suburbs. I laid on a Friday night if you just had a couple of solid Koreas there, you've already got the drops on every street corner. It's like It's like Idris Elba was here. Very much. Like just kind of running on the wire. It's beautiful. I14:03  really liked you of getting to my house and seeing a bunch of cards saying we couldn't deliver your 600 grammes of cocaine. It's back at the Depo come down to the post office and pick it up.14:12  Suze? Oh, rational fear and of letter delivery could be closer than we think14:19  the future is at some stage there will be no mail when that is it's hard to predict. This week's third there the Kiwis have intercepted our cocaine Yes, the New Zealand Navy intercepted three tonnes of cocaine floating out in the Pacific destined for Australia. The whole of anyone Bales is worth $500 million. I'm lucky for some of them. They had four leaf clovers on them. Some of them aren't with the Batman symbol. There is so much Sasson snark. From the New Zealand police. I think they said the word blow three times in their press conference, which was very good. They also said that oh well. This is a 30 year supply for New Zealand but only a one year supply for Australia. Oh burn burn. Kiwis know how to party flow. These are your country people do Do they know how to party or are they just like are they pop in everybody else's party here? Um,15:04  I think they know how to party. I mean, they should do like Tom Hanks or something should try and like take credit for it and then New Zealand will be like it it is we do love it is15:15  it's just the hobbits sort of white ratio is quite small so they only need that gets them on the whole journey.15:24  Whoever's gear it was, they are they someone has done marketing at TAFE. Like St. Patrick's Day is less than six weeks away. They've got four leaf clovers on there, they are ready to party like you'll get maximum. But15:39  I think the true heroes every time there's a significant cocaine bust are people who leave comments on news articles like rip, I, there's a part of it. It's like good. Good for you like that is because you're immediately on a watch list. But you know, it's worth it for the Viet.16:00  If you remember the Patreon you're about to hit extra fear. That's one more story than usual. If not sign up to hear the story. We're going to be talking about Alan Tudge. If you're not a member of the Patreon, you're going to hear an ad. And when we come back, we're going to be talking with Judy Hannon, the independent candidate for Wollondilly Shire and southern highlands. Who's got some things to say about chlamydia free koalas, you know irrational for your listeners just popping in here to say yes, this is the the ad you've been promised. It's an ad for our sponsor, Australian ethical, who jumped on board to sponsor the next 10 weeks of the irrational fear podcasts, the strange, ethical, awesome, folks, they basically manage money ethically. So if you've got a whole stack of money, you need to do something with but you don't want to put it into things like weapons, human trafficking, fossil fuels, and you police academy film, they won't invest in the host. So invest in good things, things that are sustainable, and promote businesses that do incredible things in the environment, around health around equity. That's the kind of people you want looking after you money that is Australian, ethical, and they are the sponsor of irrational fear. We thank you Australian ethical hope to hope to17:12  work with you again, because you know, we like money, but they Australian ethical, according to their ads. They love money.17:22  Over the last 17 years, she served the woman really shy as a counsellor and mare. She's also the chair of the Australian optometry board and now she's hoping voters will have enough 2020 vision to put her in the running for a state seat at the New South Wales election. We're gonna flip open the Snellen chart and get her to read from the bottom layer. Please welcome to irrational fear, Judy Hannon. Welcome, Judy. Hi. Hi, everyone.17:44  Yeah, welcome. Welcome to the show. Did I say that right? Is it a Snellen? Chart? Is that what is that what people call it?17:50  Whatever. Six weeks or six? Five.17:53  That's it. That's it. Optometry. Now, Judy, it's really exciting to have you on the show. We're kind of getting into the into the New South Wales election mode, you're running as an independent, what do you think you can do as an independent that you can't do in a big party.18:07  So in a big party, out here, they do nothing. So anything I do will be better and an improvement. There's lots to be done out here. And I can certainly act with integrity, which is probably lacking in the parties. I don't have to worry about the parties. I can simply just work for our community out here. And certainly for our koalas as well. There's a18:28  there's an amazing book out at the moment, which I'm reading and rereading. It's by Rick Rubin, who produced it ran on chilli peppers in Adele and all kinds of things. He talks about people who come to a project without knowing all the rules sometimes get far further and get far more creative because they're not beholden to, you know what's coming before them. As Judy mentioned, not having to work with the major parties like being free of the solemnity that surrounds those pirate rooms. Oh, you can't say that. Because that's such and such as like, being able to speak your mind and these halls of power do you? Do you feel that that would be able to cut through even though those parties hold so much power?19:06  I reckon it will. I'm a bit of a burden. They can challenge the things like ride my, my tractors see if they can tractor ride faster than me all sorts of. So yes, I don't obey the rules politely. And yeah, get a lot of things done out here. It's it's a really interesting area, and we supply all your food. So it's important that I get the job done. Food19:30  security is massive. That's one of the big unspoken things around climate change. And your your Shire has been on fire and underwater quite a lot in the last couple of years. What kinds of things do you want to be able to do to to kind of help the people that live there in the face of these increasingly volatile situations?19:47  So you would have seen the pictures of black roofs with no trees, no backyards, simply big houses on little blocks of land that it just rolled out and they're just creating heat island To fix, and there's no infrastructure of any description at all. So there's a lot to be done out here. We've got the word gamba dam wall. And you would note that the government say they're going to raise the dam wall, it won't put one extra drop of drinking water into Sydney. But what it will do is destroying a whole lot of cultural indeed, indigenous artworks, and some really scarce birds.20:25  It's interesting, you kind of bring up a bunch of environmental stuff because the the New South Wales liberals are really good at painting themselves as quite progressive on net zero targets and carbon emissions and the environment. Is that a scam? Or is or is that? Or do they have some value in that in that regard?20:45  Is there an election coming?20:49  We all saw the police randomly decide to do something last week.20:52  Climate change, you know, because there's an election coming, it's becoming popular, unfortunately, their actions out here and not proving that you know that they're doing anything substantial. And just letting developers run rampant across our whole area that supplies the food for Sydney, they might speak the speak but there's no action in there at all.21:12  One of the extraordinary things that I saw driving down Picton road about a month ago was just the incredible amount of development that is happening. It's like huge swathes of land which probably would have been farmland or or something. But like completely levelled out, flattened. And then the next minute you are driving past all those black rooms. And it feels like those houses that you drive past are so big for the locks they're on. They're so close together, that it's not it's not a pleasant place to live. And it seems that there's there's not real much thought other than maximum house for block out as an independent. And can you kind of stop this this huge overdevelopment?21:53  Look, we need to look at the planning laws. I don't think anybody can agree that planning laws in New South Wales are good. We need to have enough people in there to change the way it's done. All the people that are planners actually say that the planning is bad. But none of them can break away from the actual, you know, their catalogue of Ticketek there. But we need to revisit that and do planning in a whole different way in a sustainable way. Where people have backyards, they can have trees, where aged care is next to preschools, all those things that we know will bring good community values. So there's so much that can be done. And I'd like to get enough people in there that we can change the planning laws22:39  your electorate as part of one of the unfortunately and tragically horrifically lost kind of habitats of the koala. What can you do to protect this thing that we as Australians take for granted as a national identity yet? Clearly, like? I think I was just reading the other day that entire swathes of the southwest of New South Wales. No, quality's gone. All gone. All gone. Yeah,23:01  it's so weird. Like I've never ever seen a koala in the natural habitat around Sydney, and I've lived here for 40 years.23:07  So the koalas in our area are the only chlamydia free koalas in New South Wales. The area they live in is literally having 30,000 houses planted upon it. And the koalas unfortunately, can't read a map because they've been given corridors to go along. I thought they might give them all little apps on a phone. I can turn right here, turn left here. And the problem is if they forced them across onto the stand stone area that's beyond that, they will literally starve. And they will be much more susceptible to disease. So it's really quite sad. And I'd love to see if I got elected to Parliament in the 25th of March. I'd actually love to say a committee formed for flora and fauna of New South Wales.23:58  Oh, great. Oh, this is really interesting, Judy, and I don't get me wrong. I'm like, I am a very passionate person when it comes to protecting the environment. And people want to live somewhere. What is the solution here? What's the solution? There's 30,000 houses what this list says 100,000 people, where do they live?24:16  So there is other land and there's a lot of infill that can be done. Unfortunately, what's happening is we're having developers buy what you would have seen a couple of weeks ago, we had money launderers by 390 hectares, I believe in corridor, but literally, the developers are buying up our farmland, and they are just wiping it out. They're not cutting down selective trees or anything like that. They're Moon scaping, the whole area. So there is no ability for any flora or fauna to live with these people. And yes, we've got to have houses but we've got to have houses that are affordable to live in, as well as affordable to buy. So the houses that day So all the land that he saw, there is no public transport. There isn't even a plan for water or sewer there. Mind you, I did see that they are talking about selling off Sydney Water. We're going to put people there that can't get to work. Unless they travel for hours on the roads that are already clogged up. And you shouldn't you shouldn't stop me on it. But like Alan Jones had a shot at me he I mean, he had a shot about the fact I was stopping his mates, you know, do development, the actual one that you saw Dan, probably. And I said, send a message back. Fine, come and meet me there but come by public transport, because there isn't any. And yet we're putting 1000s of people there. Yeah. And like the the Netherlands do it so much better. Overseas, they have bikes to railway stations and all sorts of magical things. And here we just crowding as many black rooms and make as much money as we can for developers.26:01  I can't believe due to that you are suggesting that selective high density areas linked together by bicycle paths and high speed rail. What do you want this country to be?26:11  I thought you were gonna say I can't believe you suggested Elton John's take public transport.26:18  Sometimes he lets people share his helicopter with it.26:23  But you know, it's just terrible. And the trouble is, once I work the koalas out, we can't fix it later. They'll be gone,26:29  Judy. Good luck next month, Sam we'll be we'll be seeing how you travel. And we are at the end of the show. So thanks to all of our guests. Floyd Alexander hunt, Asha Gunzburg God Hanim Louis harbour whatever. You guys got to plug this out with you, Judy. What would you like to plug?26:46  Ah, certainly the cake shop you talked about down in barrel. It is the best. They have a queue that goes down the street for a mile waiting for cakes, especially on a Saturday.26:58  That's the gum that bakery in Main Street about Yeah. i Yeah, I'm a big fan of the the industrial state version in Mittagong. Where they where they bake all the cakes because it's much shorter queues. Yep, that's my that's my hot tip. Louis, what do you wanna plug27:12  down? We have some live shows in March and April. The dates of which aren't relevant. What does matter? That you buy tickets in a 1027:21  March for in Adelaide, April 2 in Melbourne, march 26 in Brisbane, come along, Floyd Alexander hunt, would you like to27:29  play okay most important thing I got a plug as next weekend I'm getting married. Just follow me on Instagram and like my photo that will be amazing.27:40  I should Gunzburg What are you plugging?27:42  I'd like to plug Dan Ilic live on stage with me Friday the 10th of February at Factory Theatre in America till 7pm for NT n n n and n real stories fake news. I've always wanted to do a fake news show because I saw Dan do on once. No one No network gave me one so I made one up and it's frickin fun. It's super amazing. Early doors seven o'clock. Come along also Melbourne, Melbourne International Comedy Festival from 30 to march.28:04  Yes and a big thank you to all of our supporters on Patreon Also, thanks to roadmaps, Australian ethical. Big thanks to Jacob brown on the Tepanyaki timeline for all of his amazing work and we will see you next time. See you then. ByeTranscribed by https://otter.aiA Rational Fear on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Uncool Cabanas — Arts Minister Tony Burke MP, Antoinette Lattouf, Hanna Ferguson, Dan Ilic

Uncool Cabanas — Arts Minister Tony Burke MP, Antoinette Lattouf, Hanna Ferguson, Dan Ilic

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOWSWe’re back with the first A Rational Fear podcast for 2023.Both Lewis Hobba (who often is co-hosting on this podcast) and Jacob Round (who does all of the amazing sound engineering) have had kids in the last few weeks. That means we need even more of you to chip into the Patreon. With your help we can put these kids into the best private school podcast money can buy. Joking of course — we use the Patreon money for drugs*.🎟 We are going on tour to Adelaide, Brisbane and Melbourne!Adelaide Fringe —  March 4thBrisbane World Science Festival — March 26thMelbourne International Comedy Festival — APRIL 2ndWe’ve got great line-ups for each show, including Andrew Hansen, Alice Fraser and Gabbi Bolt for Adelaide. In Brisbane we have Mel Buttle, Many Nolan, Mark Humphries, and Dr. Jessie Christiansen who worked on the James Web Telescope! And in Melbourne we have Sami Shah, Grace Tame, Nat’s What I Reckon and too many more to list here!Our live shows are always so much fun, and the best live podcast recording experience you’ll ever come to.Discount code for Adelaide and Melbourne: “PODCAST”🎙On the podcast this week:Minister for Arts — Tony Burke MPJournalist, author, opinionista — Antoinette LattoufGen Z’s voice of #Auspol — Hannah Ferguson from Cheek MediaWe talk:💸 Adani dropping out of rich top ten.🤳 ACCC crackdown on influencers.🎪 Beach Cabanas.🎭 The National Cultural Policy.Lewis was going to beam in from his beach airbnb — but struggled to find good enough wifi — he’ll be back next week!Enjoy the pod!CheersDan Ilic*We actually use the Patreon money to pay for the costs of making the podcast and putting on live show, the satire industrial complex is very difficult to make money from, please subscribe. 🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR LIVE SHOWS Dan Ilic  0:00  This podcast is supported in part by Australian ethical, irrational fear. 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When will this Brickman ship and it's the second of February 2023 This is irrational fear.Hello, welcome to rational fee. I'm your host former quarterback of the New England Patriots Dan Ilic Chen This is the podcast that takes the saddest headlines and eats them for breakfast. Let's meet our fear mongers for tonight. Our first fear monger is an omnipresent media maven, Author Activist Changemaker one of AFRs 100 Women of Influence. It's Antoinette Latif, welcome Antoinette.Antoinette Lattouf  3:14  Thank you so much for having me. I look forward to like think like scaring the shit out of everybody.Dan Ilic  3:22  I mean 100 100 Women of Influence What do you do to get on that list?Antoinette Lattouf  3:26  I look you as a man and you'd never understand. But the interesting thing is I can get on AFS 100 Women of Influence, but I can't influence my child to brush her teeth.Dan Ilic  3:41  And she's a Gen Zed media mogul. And when she's not, you know, pushing words into her manuscript for her new book, she's pushing as many hot takes on the internet as a team of 1000 monkeys. It's the founder and CEO of cheek media Hannah Ferguson Hannah Welcome to irrational fears havingHannah Ferguson  3:57  me that's in my mother's never said that many nice things about me in a row so it's very beautiful damn thingDan Ilic  4:02  what Hannah I used to consider myself prolific but you know watching you operate on the internet all day. I think I'm lazy. How do you keep up such a relentless hot take machine as checkmate?Hannah Ferguson  4:13  I've never considered them heartaches I've definitely consider them more of like a Pizza Hut buffet. We're getting very average and a lot of it. Like, let's just keep it pumping.Dan Ilic  4:23  And he's not here. Here's the Tom Brady of us broadcasting. It's Louis harbour he, he wished he could be here, but he's gonna put the baby to bed coming up later. We speak with the Minister for department infrastructure transport, regional development, communications and the arts. Yes, Tony Burke is joining us. We'll be talking about revive the 10 year arts roadmap, and we'll be auditioning for Poet Laureate. But first, a message from this week's sponsor.Unknown Speaker  4:44  Hey, is your bank balance to full Do you have a large amount of cash required through organised crime will come on down to your local clubs New South Wales club and will lighten the load with our state of the art poker machine. We will take your pension and triple it if you're lucky. And if it doesn't work, just Try again in a fortnight maybe you've got a suitcase of cash from the proceeds of pharmaceutical distribution needs a tax free origin story. Well, from now until March 26, you can put it all through one of our 9500 poker machines. That's more than Las Vegas, baby. And when you cash out, we won't ask any questions. Don't worry, no one asks any questions of us. And if they do, we'll find in Nazi photos. Everyone's got a Nazi photo. Come on down to your local clubs, New South Wales club. Everyone's welcome. Even CatholicsUnknown Speaker  5:30  don't have I don't have any picture. I'm not aware of that.Dan Ilic  5:36  Firstly, this year, how do you lose $70 billion overnight through hard work and determination or if you're an activist investor, Gautam Adani, as India's richest man at the start of the year was the third richest person in the world. But he's dropped out of the top 10 richest people list because it's claimed is a little bit dodgy. Yes, a short selling firm delightfully named get this Hindenburg published an investigation accusing Adani of stock manipulation, account fraud and money laundering. Now, one of the allegations I don't know if you read this one of the allegations is that the Adani private family trust charged the Adani public company $100 million in licencing fees to use the North Queensland export terminal, which they own. That's really that's a big skim, that's a big family skim right there. They it also pointed to how other family companies covered the loss in value of other assets like the Carmichael coal mine and train line so the public company wouldn't look bad like he'd have lost the money. Allegedly. All of this is allegedly I should point out a Danny kind of hit back with a 413 page report which no one is going to read as Peter Dutton you know, knows as soon as the report comes out there were like hundreds of these weird pro Adani tweets that hit Twitter. I don't know if you saw this. Yeah, they all had like similar contexts, but some had just that the same typo. Hundreds of tweets that are like kind of backing Adani, but they all spelt nation wrong. That botAntoinette Lattouf  6:59  needs Grammarly. Yeah, it really does.Dan Ilic  7:04  And like he's another one which is heads the heads like full sentences which are kind of copied and pasted the word allegations is spelt allegations, which I love. Just goes to show if you're an Indian company and you're outsourcing your tweets to Australia, you shouldn't be doing that we are terrible with with with language. Have you guys ever lost $70 billion in one day? No,Hannah Ferguson  7:23  I actually check my account before buying my own mocker in the morning. So I think I would notice if the books are changing that drastically. But yes, no, I haven't personally internet.Dan Ilic  7:33  I love these allegations because Adani of course is one of the hugest exporters and extractors of fossil fuels around the world. And so if they go down, that's great for everybody, pretty much. It's great news for everyone. How would you react if you were like the offspring of a billionaire and your parent dropped off the top 10? Would that be embarrassing?Antoinette Lattouf  7:52  It's probably grounds to never speak to them again. I think it'd be reasonableUnknown Speaker  7:57  and rational fear.Unknown Speaker  7:59  Not only will the investment community in India, but also around the world but most likely here in Australia. We'll be looking at the financial veracity of Adani in the wake of these clients a rationalDan Ilic  8:11  alright, this week second fear the a triple seat, Australia's favourite cops have got influences in their sights from now on. If you're carrying a camera or a bang energy drink, you have to have a permit otherwise you could get a fine for making an undeclared post. The a triple C won't have anything of it not at all. All sponsored posts must be declared. In fact, the a triple C chair Gina Cass Gottlieb said, people are looking at it thinking that they have the integrity of just an ordinary persons recommendation. Yes, an ordinary person with ABS lip filler full hair, and insatiable appetite for sharing videos of them doing back squats. Then when they tell you to buy a koala mattress you do just the ordinary person like that people could be confused, especially if they don't see ordinary people like me and I live in Bondi, Hannah you're one of the most powerful influences in the in the news and Australian politics space. Do you have sponsored posts?Hannah Ferguson  9:01  I honestly have no idea how these come in. No one has ever offered me anything really? And honestly like I'm just confused by why these influences why people can be duped by influencers who think the most interesting thing is talking about laxity of tastes like do you not realise these people are getting paid to make you shoot yourself to death like why is that surprising? But no i i Do not struggle with this. I wish more people approached me frankly.Antoinette Lattouf  9:25  I have I have something to disclose guys. I am an influencer. However, I would say Oh, it wasn't the ASR. 100 Women of Influence thing that kind of because after I was like listed, I was like, Okay, where are all of my teeth whitening deals Where's My Car? However, recently, I became an influencer. And so the people that I do sometimes accept money from like museums. I go to galleries and exhibitions and and I talk about public archives, like really sexy stuff like that. But I do disclose it. So I'm an influencer who doesn't have like really white teeth because nobody has come forward and sponsored me for I talk about museums but I you know, I do I do disclose if I'm an ethical influencerDan Ilic  10:16  Oh yeah. So wait we are were ethical here too.Antoinette Lattouf  10:20  But you know what I do think the penitent penalty here because they're talking about penalties and cracking down on influencers who don't disclose that they actually pay I think the best kind of penalty would be to force them to make an NRL style apology but to be told that like no filters are allowed in your video apologyDan Ilic  10:52  Love is the HR was a reached out to his followers on Facebook encouraging them to delve in influencers who are doing the wrong thing and they said they got 1000s of responses. I'm like, first of all, what kind of narc is following the a triple C on Facebook?Antoinette Lattouf  11:05  Yeah, definitely a boomer it's differently someone's because nobody else is on Facebook. The other thing is RF in the a triple C can bet and find these influences themselves. All you need to do is put like search the terms heaps of people have been asking about my car like nobody fucking no one's supposed to be careful.Hannah Ferguson  11:31  They just need to go have the Instagram bio like I'm an empath or treat people with kindness and fucking bang they've got them going on about this like idea of its being particularly looking at micro influencers influencers or having like a more legitimate relationship with their audience. I'm like, Are you going off to like my grandma's 18 Facebook friends sharing one black one prayer posts like is that the accountability you're looking for? Who are you investigating with like 1000 followers?Antoinette Lattouf  11:56  I reckon they should just investigate every every former bachelorette bachelor Married at First Sight. Get rid ofDan Ilic  12:07  it. You know, of course people go on those shows just to boost their Instagram followers so they can have a career after the show. Looking toHannah Ferguson  12:16  love genuinely, with the guy that's never treated a woman right ever. That's crazy stuff.Tony Burke MP  12:23  This is rad, rational fear. There's a history to this where the monarchs been on the lowest denominator. denomination. We should be proud of it incredibly proud of our British heritage. It's the underpinning of societies we not we shouldn't try and rewrite history.Dan Ilic  12:43  This week's third the cabanas cabana is everywhere but not a place to walk. The eastern suburbs have been invaded by people from far away as far away as five dark coming to Bondi and putting up their tents, putting in their tents and taking up all the space on the beach where no one can walk and get to the water. Ah, Antoinette Latif, you are so pro cabana decided to get paid by the nine media machine to write about it. Now tell us why are you pro cabana? And why am I wrong for being anti cabana?Antoinette Lattouf  13:17  This segment has not been sponsored by core cabanas. I do not receive beach paraphernalia. I am open to it but I have not previously received any. But this is the great summer debates bizarreDan Ilic  13:27  they did is a bizarre that didn't reach out to you after your article to offer you one for free. Now theyAntoinette Lattouf  13:31  haven't. Like I'm doing something wrong. I gotta get on a dating show and sort that out. Anyway, this is one of the great summer of 2023 and if you use a cabana at the beach, are you an inconsiderate asshole? My answer is no. You've just heeded the warnings of public health campaigners for three decades you're getting out of the sun. And I know Dan, you have a different view to me on this but there's two things I want to put it out there. There's two things that aggravate me most about people and that's those who disagree with me and those who live in a nicer suburb than I do and you are both those things thenDan Ilic  14:08  I live in a nicer suburb Sure sure. outside my apartment is great but my apartment is a shoebox with fungus growing through the roof. It is it is the end of the best part about it is is the beach is the beach you know I drive home to spend three hours looking for a car park spot just so I can park my car near my house like the there are downsides to livingHannah Ferguson  14:29  to take out a mortgage to go to the beach for three hours in that area. I've only discovered moving to Sydney it's awful. It's so much linen I'm terrified.Dan Ilic  14:38  The cabanas on a busy day they're just they're awful but you know on an easy day we're not we're not many people are are there at the beach. It's totally fine but on a Saturday or a Sunday when it's 30 degrees and they're back to back. It just makes the beach impossible to navigate and when they put up like at nine o'clock in the morning. Not only do they take up the space of where the physical cabana is but they Take up wherever the shade lands. So throughout the day the shade moves, and the space of the cabana user actually takes up three cabanas across the day like the space use for one person under a cabana is absolutely disproportionate to the space needed. Selling a beach umbrella could do quite easily and not take up the same amount of space. Sorry, Hannah,Antoinette Lattouf  15:23  I think you need to probably weigh in here because Dan and I don't see eye to eye on this Vamana slick slop, but mainly slap him out of it.Hannah Ferguson  15:31  Brilliant. Oh, my God, someone should be paying you.Antoinette Lattouf  15:35  I mean, I think it's not been welcoming sunscreen sponsors. Anybody in the home and I'm happy.Hannah Ferguson  15:40  The TGA is not welcoming. You are welcoming.Antoinette Lattouf  15:46  Yeah, so where do you sit on this hand? I'm like, are we just being smart or being inconsiderate? And taking up too much space?Hannah Ferguson  15:51  I failed you Tenma so don't know how to weigh in on the whole geographic area of the shade thing? I think Sun safety's big thing for my generation. Not so much Danza. Yes, Dan, you're much older than me. But I also think maybe you just hate stripes. And you're a bit of an eastern suburbs elitist? What's going on here? Do you think it could be something else? Hiding behind this argument about a shave? I think I think overall good thing I think positive love the article.Dan Ilic  16:16  Right? Right. You you actually think the stripes are the problem. I have a problem with stripes. And what I wished for those cabanas is white linen. You're probably right. If they were white linen, maybe we'd let them slide.Unknown Speaker  16:26  So Sue's rational fear.Unknown Speaker  16:29  But there's one thing all cuckoo banners have in common. They're just about everywhere. 1000s of coca banners all the way online locals have posted cabanas our visual pollution.Dan Ilic  16:42  Hello, they're just popping into this pile of podcasters say that we are once again sponsored by Australian ethical, we don't want the a triple se to come and crack down on us. So I just want to make make sure everybody knows that. This part here is a sponsorship announcement for Australia ethical. So if you're listening from the a triple C, please don't arrest me. They put me in handcuffs. We're doing this ethically. This is the sponsorship announcement. Australian ethical, had been looking after us over the last Well, last year they did for 10 weeks. And now they're jumping on board for another 10. So it's very exciting to have them help us out. When it comes to investing ethically Australian ethical are the way to go if you want your money or your super to invest in things like renewable energy, clean tech health education, swap to Australian ethical, simple as that. All right back to the podcast. Well, he's a renowned musician, arts lover. And we are very excited to be joined by the Minister for the Department of Infrastructure transport, regional development, communications and arts. Yes, that is more ministers ships. Then Scott Morrison, welcome Tony Burke, hey, when you're in the opposition, you know, for the last decade or so did you ever think you'd ever become the Minister for the Department of Infrastructure transport, regional development, communications and the arts?Tony Burke MP  17:54  I'm only the last fit. I'm only the upstream. So I've got that the rest of my work in a different department, the Employment and Workplace Relations stuff. So but yeah, when I first got sworn in, and up until then, we'd had years where the word arts wasn't anywhere. So I was just glad to find it on a wall.Dan Ilic  18:16  On the podcast today, also, we've got Antoinette Latif and Hannah Ferguson. I don't know if you've met them or seeing them online. They're extraordinary people. So they're going to be chiming in with questions for you as well.Tony Burke MP  18:26  And I brought my prop, whatDan Ilic  18:28  was your prop? What prompted you bring, Ah, excellent, the revised document they revised,Tony Burke MP  18:33  every politician needs a prop. It's one of the things we do and I couldn't find a hat.Dan Ilic  18:37  Tony, the only prop that matters to me is a gigantic check made out to a rational fear. So I'm very excited you're you're the administer thatTony Burke MP  18:47  I'm working on the basis that everything we have announced is going to youDan Ilic  18:51  so yes, the Revive policy was really exciting moment this week for people had reading kind of set every every kind of artists eyes, alight everyone was awake to it was very exciting. Could you could you tell us for you why this was personally important to you to kind of watch this now?Tony Burke MP  19:07  Yeah. So when I was lost arts minister, like Simon crean had announced a cultural policy. And two days later, there was a big blow up, and Simon was no longer a minister. So my whole role was to be implementing the cultural policy. And then after six months, we were gone. And it was replaced with nothing. Like I thought maybe Tony Abbott might replace it with something more conservative or something like that, but it was actually replaced with nothing. And so in the whole time in opposition, I just kept sort of imagining Monday, I guess, which was the time when we would have a cultural policy. Again, we'd bring it up to date. And we'd actually because the cultural policy, the concept of it, is it's you're establishing that culture matters to government and matters to the country. And so the language of it is, you know, while people go to show me The dollars and the dollars matter. But the fact that you're making that statement affects how government does stuff. But there were times during the pandemic, where I made passionate speeches saying artists are also workers that it had never occurred to me that I'd have to make speeches like that. Like, it's a bit of an obvious thing. And so for me, it was really important just to get to that moment, again, where you had the formality of a government saying, this really matters. And for those six years, I never knew what was going to be in it. I didn't know where the consultation would take us. And it took us in places I hadn't expected. But it was that fact of having the pm stand up. And actually just simply talk about, this is about the nation. So this really matters. Yeah, for me that march that finally the formality of the end of the culture was coming from government.Dan Ilic  20:55  Do you really think that's the end of culture wars from government? Well, government, yes. ButTony Burke MP  21:00  being backed up by the megaphone of government manage it that is like, you know, I campaigned for there to be a wage subsidy. And I was really glad when Job Cooper happened. But if you wanted to design one to exclude as many arts workers as possible, it's exactly what they do.Antoinette Lattouf  21:14  Minister, I know you've talked a lot about people suffering during the pandemic, those in the arts, and I wonder, behind the word revive, was it about reviving those careers? But what about careers like dance, which which tanked? Well before theTony Burke MP  21:32  Yeah, look, I if you look at a whole lot of speeches I've given and Dan sort of feeling dog whistle to all the time. I've often said, we were we were vulnerable before the pandemic. And I guess that vulnerability encouraged me to come on tonight.Dan Ilic  21:50  Thank you, this is this is a pity interview. I really appreciate that. You open the door. Let's talk about let's talk about minimum wage fraud. Is that something you you have been talking a little bit about in kind of Sly language that was kind of missing largely from this package? It was, you know, you did kind of say that will be mandated by the government that government would pay a minimum wage to artists working for the government. But what about the the business population generally? Or in general? Is there some kind of minimum wage set coming down the line? Or is there an experiment or conversations you're, you're having that are kind of kind of early days,Tony Burke MP  22:30  we've taken steps towards it, I just in seven months of consultation, I, I didn't want to find that I inadvertently blown something up that mattered on the way through because we went about it the wrong way. So there's sort of the steps we've taken as of Monday. First of all, government's guaranteeing minimum rates and anything that we contract. Secondly, in the review of awards that I announced last year, as part of the Workplace Relations reforms, when secure jobs better pay went through and we had a negotiation with David pokok. I've now said specifically, looking at the work of artists has to be included in that review of awards. And that's particularly important for visual artists, because they've been really held back there. But then the other thing structurally that we've established as a centre for arts and entertainment workplace, it's so a centre within creative Australia, where it'll be half workers, half employers effectively, and it's part of its job will be to start to come up with what should be some minimum rates. And so the next step after saying government or pilot, is to say, once we get those minimum rates, if you want to come knocking on the door, to get a government grant, you need to be delivering on these minimum standards. And so that's sort of the next step of dealing with it.Dan Ilic  23:52  Oh, you know, we're lucky enough to have a Patreon so we can pay our comedy guests a small honorarium. We don't ask people to come on for exposure, because quite frankly, we don't have that many listeners. So it's pretty, you know, it's a bit of a raw deal for anyone that comes on. So yeah. Well, that's exciting to hear. That's exciting to hear. I want to talk a little bit about quotas. That was the other thing that kind of as a TV maker that made me excited 20% of revenue from streams to be invested into local production. When you've got kind of players like Netflix, who kind of obfuscate the numbers, you know, they do the old double dutch sandwich with an Irish twist, they licenced the trademarks. They kind of kind of deflate their own real revenue to kind of lower their tax bill, do you think that that metric is going to work to to get more local production on screen?Tony Burke MP  24:37  So this is where the screen Producers Association and there's a campaign called make an Australian and it's aiming for 20%? We haven't signed up to the 20% yet, we've signed up to the deadline. So this six months is consultation. next six months legislation. first of July next year, the Australian the requirements for Australian content will have start are the things that we've got to work through because they all affect. So if you lay under 20%, or you scale up to it over a few years, you then also have to work out three other areas. First, is it new content only, or can old content before to, to get there? You got,Dan Ilic  25:18  of course, Amazon, Amazon just bought their neighbours. And that was largely seen as a way to kind of bolster the bolster the fight against content, local content, are we going to see a Toady? Spin Off on neighbours?Tony Burke MP  25:31  Exotic? Yeah, this is the risk of Skippy taking over everyone's screaming to get getting whatever you can. So we've got to make the decision on whether there's whether things that are old counted all or whether it's only new, we've then also got to decide how Australian does it have to be. So some of the streams have come out saying we're already doing 20%. And they're counting every Marvel film that's been filmed here, which often, let alone this country. And then the third thing we've got to work out is what we do for sub quotas. So whether we have a sub quota for children's content, scripted drama documentary, how we deal with that. So all of that affects what the final percentage means. We haven't given ourselves long. And I I'm sure for the streamers and everyone else are setting the deadlines has focused the mind,Dan Ilic  26:20  will it be a percentage? Or will it be our hourly kind of content kind of metric? Yeah, you can'tTony Burke MP  26:26  do it the way you do free to air so free to air because you know what time things are going to be broadcast, you can set an hour by hour metric. But ultimately, with streaming, the consumer decides what they're going to watch. Although there's issues of menus, where Netflix or whoever make decisions about what they choose to prioritise in their algorithm. So I haven't found a method other than a percentage of expenditure or revenue that actually works. I think expenditure percentage of revenue is probably the only way you can deal with a streaming service, but you can't do it. The way that you deal with free to air TVAntoinette Lattouf  27:05  doesn't run the risk of production companies and streamers looking elsewhere to make content thinking, well, Australia is a small market, we don't have to, we don't have to play fair game here. We'll just we'll go to New Zealand, or we'll go elsewhere, does it? Are you do you have any of those concerns?Tony Burke MP  27:22  I really don't, because they're making a heap of money here. So whatever, wherever the quote is that they'll still make money and a whole lot of the Australian content they won't only show here, they will make money out of it around the around the world as well. Other countries, Europe's it within Europe, there are quotas, France, Italy, there, there are other countries that have quotas. I'm confident that it's not going to cause them to walk, because why would you walk from a place where you're making money? If the rule is simply you've got to make more content from a country that produces really good content?Dan Ilic  27:54  We are good content producers here at irrational.Tony Burke MP  27:57  And we that was another dog whistle to your dance.Dan Ilic  28:00  Well, this is the I look, I know, I know. You're currently auditioning for Poet Laureate of Australia, and it's really exciting. And Antoinette and Hannah and I have kind of, you know, we've we've shaped our little poem for you each to see you know what you think maybe we could be in the running to be Poet Laureate. Where are you happy to listen to these poems, Tony,Tony Burke MP  28:19  do what do I get rhyming couplets on the way through?Dan Ilic  28:23  You're gonna have someone have rhyming triplets who's to know I mean, how do you want to go first? I'mHannah Ferguson  28:29  ready. Thank you Dan. I'm ready to win whatever I'm already placing myself there Dan is a firm third so I'm ready. Okay. The death of the Queen has flipped the lid on many secrets the monarchy hid. Our currency not featuring the king has really upset the right wing more than Prince Andrew ever did.Dan Ilic  28:52  Tony, keep in mind, culture wars are dead from government. What do you do?Tony Burke MP  28:56  I reckon the national poet laureate could reignite all of them.Dan Ilic  29:05  On that wasn't a great today Peter Dutton saying that say the Prince Charles, not on the $5 note is it is a direct attack on society. This comes from a government that created Robo debt who did an actual direct attack on society?Antoinette Lattouf  29:18  Dag, you've just, you've just provided the perfect segue because my Limerick is about done.Dan Ilic  29:25  Oh, let's do it. I haveAntoinette Lattouf  29:27  you already when? I want to show you how to play dirty in a lab for Dutton. They once was a lad from Australia. He said let's maintain violent colonial regalia. He was extremely hot, and not very Luddite, which will ensure his continual destructive thing.Dan Ilic  29:47  Oh, oh, that's really good. I don't think mine can beat that structure. Yeah,Hannah Ferguson  29:54  that's a big word.Antoinette Lattouf  29:57  I should just wait for that.Hannah Ferguson  29:58  I was good once yellow Well, that's incredible.Dan Ilic  30:02  Mine's a little bit more suburban a bit more grassroots. Let me give it a go. There was movement at the station for the word pass around that the 3:25pm was cancelled. The Bankstown line was down. They all mustered on the platform frustration in their veins having already tapped on they brace for the worst over the speaker came, buses will replace trainsHannah Ferguson  30:27  was all in the voice Damn, that was 35% great voice.Dan Ilic  30:31  Well, you know the poet laureates got to perform to write. Tony What do you think?Tony Burke MP  30:36  I think Antoinette's poems get the one that keeps me in a jobDan Ilic  30:41  well, that is it for rational fear. Big thanks to antenatal tooth Hannah Ferguson, the Minister for arts Tony Burke. Let's get our plugs underway. Tony What would you like to plug? They'd revive Very good. He's holding up the for the people who aren't listening who aren't watching the podcast. He's holding up the policy documents videoThank you, Tony Antoinette. Where would you like to plugAntoinette Lattouf  31:06  I would like to plug my book How to lose friends and influence white people. It is published by Penguin also, I'd like to point the fact that I have lost a few friends so there are some vacancies for anybody who'sDan Ilic  31:21  Anna Ferguson, what would you like to plugHannah Ferguson  31:23  I'd like to plug take medias Instagram Chief media.co I had to add the.in Because when it was just take media co people and for me they were reading it is taking medical and thought I was a medical student and I was veryso I had to mix things up.Dan Ilic  31:36  Louis harbour regrets staying in an Airbnb with bad internet. He would like to plug our live shows we're going to Melbourne Adelaide Brisbane, Adelaide Fringe Festival Melbourne Comedy Festival Brisbane World Science Week tickets are irrational fear.com or comedy.com Dota you come along we'd love to see you big thanks to Jake roundup and Tepanyaki timeline Nico rock for his voice over today rode mics Australian ethical our Patreon supporters and everyone who listens Thank youTranscribed by https://otter.aiA Rational Fear on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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A Rational Year — The best sketches and selected bits from 2022

A Rational Year — The best sketches and selected bits from 2022

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/👕 BUY OUR MERCH HERE 🎟️ BUY TICKETS TO THE A RATIONAL FEAR ADELAIDE FRINGE SHOWHappy new fear!Currently I’m on holidays in the south coast of NSW. Yesterday I found myself sitting in a local cafe with my laptop going through the year of sketches, and my favourite bits.Suffice to say regional cafes are not used to award winning podcasters sitting in the corner laughing to themselves and maniacally writing jokes. Before they called the cops, I pulled together about an hour of some of the best bits of A Rational Fear for the year.Some of which has previously only been avaliable behind the paywall on Patreon.And despite how many people quit the Patreon based on the fact that "Alan Jones" was hosting the end of year special... I decided to invite him to do it again.He's back by un-popular demand.By doing our podcast he literally gets 100 x the audience of his YouTube show, but at this time of year it's important to be in a giving spirit, even to your enemies.Big thank you this episode go to my in-laws, whose spare bedroom I recorded this podcast in. They too are not Alan Jones fans, but were quite obliging to allow him to seep through into the living space for 20 minutes.It’s been another big year for us on A Rational Fear. We did live shows around the country, played the Sydney Opera House, won Best Comedy at the Australian Podcast Awards (again), we put out 2 new series; Julia Zemiro Asks Who Cares, and Jan Fran Has Issues, as well as a limited election column by Kara Schlegl who now has her own brilliant substack you can subscribe too.And we couldn’t have done it without the help of our listeners who support us on Patreon, on Apple Subscriptions or who pay for this otherwise free newsletter on Substack. The thing about podcasting is the more popular you get, the more you pay in bandwidth and hosting. We also are one of the very few podcasts, or shows of any kind for that matter that actually pay our comedy guests. This is really important to us. It’s cool we can do that, and we can because of Patreon, every little bit helps.Come see us live next year:Adelaide — March 4th — Garden of Unearthly DelightsBrisbane — March 26th — World Science FestivalMelbourne — April 2nd — Capitol TheatreAnd also in 2023 — we will hit 1,000,000 downloads.I know! 1,000,000!If I had a dollar for every time someone downloaded our show, I’d have enough money to buy a mouldy 1 bedroom deathtrap in Sydney with an outdoor toilet. We’ll do something special for it, we may need your help for suggestions.Thanks for listening this year, we love making this show. It makes us feel better about the world.I hope it does the same for you.CheersDan IlicChefJerry’s Pizza, Romania   🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear  0:00  This podcast is supported in part by Australian ethical.0:03  This episode of irrational fear was recorded on the land of the Darrel wall people. Sovereignty was never ceded. The first step to treaty is the voice. Let's start the show.0:12  A rational fear contains naughty words like bricks, Canberra, fed GM and section 40. Have a rational view recommended listening by immature audiences. Hey, a0:25  rational fear fear mongers Welcome to a rational year. This is where we rip through the highlights of the year in one little podcast so you don't have to spend more than you know about an hour or so listening to us but if you can, and you want to in person, we are going to be performing live for you around Australia very soon. We are going to be at the Adelaide Fringe Festival march for Brisbane at the World Science Festival March 26. And we are going to be at the Melbourne International Comedy Festival April 2. In fact, our Melbourne lineup is so big. In fact, we've called the show irrational fear has too many guests for a one hour festival show spectacular it is going to be a lot of fun, and I can't wait to do it. So join us then in Adelaide, Melbourne and Brisbane in the first half of the year. But right now, I'm going to be handed the mic over to a good friend of mine, Alan Jones. Alan,1:19  welcome to rational fear. Good morning, dad. Do you know who else has too many guests? No Christmas dinner and Scott Morrison said.1:28  Well, thank you for coming back to host the end of Year special.1:31  Good to be with you.1:32  When you hosted last time 30 people unsubscribed from the email list and six people cancelled their Patreon memberships. Yes, well,1:39  you know, go woke go broke. What were the listen to numbers like well, it was the most listened to episode we've ever had. Well, there you have it. You know, my own internet show on YouTube has registered its 15 subscriber. I'm more popular than Anthony clear in an area after party. Well, Alan, the floor is yours. Take it away. Thank you, Dan. Good morning, everyone. I'm back hosting irrational year. This show is dedicated to the most important people in the country, the sponsors of irrational fear. Yes, we'll celebrate them all in this very special episode, the highs, the lows and meet in between. This is genuinely cash for comment. Okay, let's kick it off from a message from one of most popular podcasters in Australia called Mark No, not Mark Latham. The other one.2:28  Imagine your true crime podcast hosts tracking down some of the grisly murders ever committed in Australia, only to discover that they're all already covered by other True Crime podcasts. That is the moment I discovered something so terrifying in myself that I had no choice but to turn it into a blood curdling audio experience. Hi, I'm Mark Fidel, and I host the true crime podcast is not for now. A murderer. Yes, he is. Come with me as I investigate a freshman that I come in each week until I get caught. I pick victims out at random from the white pages. I know shocking. How did I find the white pages in 2022? To find out you'll have to listen to is Mark funnel a murderer? Yes, he is available only on Audible and as a transcript from criminal court and while you're there check out my other podcast stuff Mark stall and that murder guy. Shit. I have to go now by3:26  Coronavirus. Remember that God I barely do. I failed COVID-19 away in my brain in the same place where I still have memories of when the Wallabies lost when a match got. Well back in January 2022 The New South Wales government gave up on Coronavirus to, to them all of a sudden it no longer existed, just like climate change.3:47  49,900 the New South Wales Government is changing the way it's counting Coronavirus cases because we only learned how to count up to 50,000 89,999 50,000. From today if you have symptoms of Coronavirus, you'll have to acquire a rapid antigen test through a series of physical challenges in your local district. The winner of each district will battle it out for the title of state champion who will then be given one rapid antigen test. And if that person tests positive they will then be added to the daily count.4:22  We've got one more that 50,000 plus one4:26  and if you've done report your positive test result you will be shocked oh my god Max is so hot from all of us at the New South Wales Government may the odds be ever in your favour.4:36  countdowns on radio are still a big deal when I was still on to GB we used to have the hottest 100 liberal Prime Ministers of all time, Scott Morrison took out the top 50 Well back at generate the woker radio Triple J insisted on starting a new countdown.4:53  Hey Veronica Milsom here to remind you that you've only got two days left to submit your favourite years for the hot is 100 now with over 2000 years to choose from, we want to know which year you think will come out on top as the hottest year ever.5:09  I thought 1989 was pretty high. No, no,5:12  it's not when you will asked hot the temperature of Earth.5:15  Oh gosh, it's gotta be 2007 that's the year I was born and my mom was in labour for like four hours and that was5:22  hot. Yeah, okay, I can understand from a friction perspective. But once again, we're talking about the earth's temperature.5:29  You know, the hottest year was actually at 90 and the Earth has been getting colder every year since I'm sorry,5:35  is this Senator Malcolm Roberts?5:37  No. It's round from the from the ABC.5:44  Get ready for the most predictable countdown most of the world is ignoring the hottest 100 years ever. Spoiler alert, it was last year. It's always the last year.5:59  Cash flow coming is disgusting, which is why you'll never hear me do it. But if you want to support a rational fear, simply log on to patreon.com forward slash a rational fear and chip in as little as $5 a month to keep this podcast kicking along Patreon. It's like Centerlink for comedians. And when it comes to cash for comment, no one knows more about it than our political class.6:20  In these uncertain times, it's important to be fiscally responsible6:23  our nation's on the edge of an economic cliff6:27  with very little interest in interest rates6:30  at a record low 0.1%.6:34  And with the stock market sliding faster than a Test cricket out into your DMS $50 billion wiped off the value of Australian shares. Today there's only one place to put your money that will see guaranteed returns political donations. starting as low as $25,000 you can be guaranteed enormous returns such as $21 million of subsidies and grants for your fossil fuel projects. That's the return of 840% Imagine how many politicians you could buy off with that kind of fuck you cash. Ask your financial advisor if political donations are right for you. Political Donations is as safe as houses owned by parliamentarians in Canberra.7:18  Jason says apply check the PDS for details. Oh actually there is no PDS just a handshake.7:23  So you know, whatever. No rules come February of 2022. As Scott Morrison was tackling eight year old boys and the footy field Australian was overrun with election fever. Everyone I know wanted Scott Morrison to win again including my former friends at Channel 960 minutes.7:43  Sunday 60 minutes goes behind the doors of Curability house to present Australian politics like you've never seen before. It's hard. The Prime Minister Scott Morris Good morning tag and journalist cosplay. Calm Stefano8:00  pm Good morning to you.8:02  You know our long succession very hard journey from behind from Prime Minister to A prime Daddy, I gotta tell you, I'm coming from breakfast television journalist to chief of scomo staff. Well, it's 60 minutes of Walkley award winning 69. And then you put the finger through their watch Carl Stefanova get large to buy Scott Morrison in the launch8:29  the big stick Sunday on nine and nine now.8:35  I would like to see if you would marry me love your8:41  God. That was the longest 60 minutes of my life, which is why I prefer my ads for the Liberal Party to be snack sized and presented in the aisle of the chemist warehouse.8:53  We all want our kids to grow up healthy and not on fire which makes rising temperatures in and around the home a bit of a nuisance but if you want to do absolutely nothing about them Miko past the Liberal Party of Australia not only has the Liberal Party of Australia received donations in excess of $5 million from fossil fuel companies since 2012. Unlike other Australian political parties, the Liberal Party of Australia comes with a unique formula that combines heavy investment in the gas industry with no meaningful plan to transition to renewables or electric vehicles making them the perfect party to guarantee Australia contributes less than our fair share to the global efforts to tackle climate change. So if you want to stick your head in the sand and feel it get harder and harder, why not give the Liberal Party of Australia ago today bland power helping you vote better?9:36  Come April 2022, the Melbourne International Comedy Festival played host to a rational theatre God knows why. We're former Australian of the Year Grace time dalliance didn't stand up for the first time ever. I remember what I did stand up for the first time ever. It was at my ACMA hearing for the coronella riots. I would never get me.9:55  Ah, yes. Oh Crikey. What am I doing here? I'm not a comedian. But if you look up the Venn diagram of me, and these guys, you'll find that it's not actually a Venn diagram at all. It's just a great big flashing circle that says go to therapy. Yes, the natural progression from very serious Law Reform campaigning is self roasting. When Dan asked me to do this, he said, Can you please do a monologue that is topical. And I'm on a serious mission to not talk about anything political, because everyone's been accusing me of being a hack. I know that makes things a little bit difficult. So I'm really sorry to disappoint you if you came to hear me make jokes about a certain someone. I know the temptation is very real. He is like a giant self sourcing comedy putting.Is the joke dessert that answers itself? You don't even have to tell him he just goes and grabs the ukulele all by himself.To get around that issue, I've decided instead to reflect on one of my favourite TV shows from the early 2000s. My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. Which Believe it or not, translates quite well to the landscape of Australian politics. For example, the leader of Equestria Princess Celeste year has let down Australian voters yet again, with her willingness to greenwash her government's reliance on fossil fuels to neighbouring neighbouring Yes, the pawns. The pawns are coming to neighbouring pony kingdoms. She's also very sensitive about a tail tail that she wants shattered in old McDonald's farm in 1997. All right, I'll stop. I'll make a deal. Just don't shame survivors on primetime TV don't under fund support services protect alleged rapists stab people in the back bully people pork barrel. You see we've got a bit of an imbalance daily people.Ah, yes, that naughty little flying horned party. Anyway, what I've decided to talk about this evening has absolutely nothing at all to do with politics whatsoever. And that thing is air fryers. Stick with him. Actually, I suppose they are a little bit political as one of my favourite comedians. Mark Latham has accused me of being since the airfryer came about. It has in some ways, divided the nation. That's the real Mark Latham. By the way as he calls himself on Twitter. All the other Mark Latham's are not in one nation. So will the real Mark Latham please shirt front? Sorry, I promised I wouldn't get political. It's just that I had to give him a shout out because one of the chaser interns the other day was saying that my home Tasmania isn't a real place. So I figured if Tasmania isn't real, at least I can keep living rent free in real Mark Latham was headyeah, it's pretty much just me, Rosie Batty, the 2004 election results. And pretty much well, actually, everyone who isn't a straight white man. Probably why he's so mad all the time. It's pretty crowded up in there. And you Anyway, where was I? Yes, the humble airfryer people seem to love it or hate it. What is this cheeky little unit that just popped up? Out of nowhere? How could there possibly be this smaller version of something that does things we've already been doing this whole time. Only it gets to the point a bit quicker and cuts out all the crapMost of its criticism seems to come from people who don't like change. But really, it's just a lightweight, metal clad Basket Case inside a pressure cooker that has a little vent and no filter Are you15:42  catching my drift? That's an aeroplane, by the way. Doesn't really matter does it because if you're not a fan fan Guess15:55  what I'm really trying to say is, if you don't like it, don't buy it. And that's not a political help my friends. That's just a life hack16:13  right when I ripped off the April 2022 page of my New South Wales Fire Brigade calendar, it was clear the election in May was going to cause things to heat up. Ray Martin joined irrational fear for a quick history lesson on the Liberals greatest ever mistake. John Hewson,16:35  a story begins in the Americas. You know, it is the birthplace of Joe Rogan. In 1987, the US stock market crashed, sending shockwaves around the global economy. At the same time, we were experiencing our own 80s hanging over there we were sitting on a housing bubble that was just about to end the years leading to the 1993 election. Were bad. How bad? Well, unemployment reached 11% 10,000. People went on the DOL in a week. And both the Victorian and South Australian state banks collapsed. The treasurer at the time you may know him as Prime Minister poor feeding. Well, he called us the recession that Australia had to have. So it was no surprise that going into the 1993 election. The opposition's John Hewson was the front runner, with some papers calling the election unlovable. But to win, he would need more than a big lead. He would need a big plan. A plan a so big it would save the economy from going down the drain. It included sweeping tax cuts, slashes to government spending, and at the centre of it all the introduction of a new 15% Goods and Services Tax. You know it is GST? He hasn't had all his bases covered. All that was left was to name that anything. It needed a name that the country could rally around a name that inspires grit and resolve. He called his fight back. Despite its simple name, fight back was complicated and confused voters. Maybe Worst of all, no one could get their head around what g is T would actually mean facts in hand and ready to face the nation. Houston sat down for primetime interview with a current affairs Mike Willacy, who would change the course of the election with one simple question.18:33  If I buy a birthday cake from a cake shop, and an GSDs invoice to pay more or less for their birthday cake.18:44  We may never know what went through John Houston's mind when he was asked the cost of a birthday cake. But we imagined that it might have been something like this18:53  cake to teach us okay. Oh shit. I've got fingers milk, right even lollies. Dammit, John, you idiot. How do we miss cake? Or at night? This is what we train for cake. Mom's chunky cake. I can almost taste it. Okay, two cups of self raising flour. That's 15 cents plus GST for one cup of sugar 10 cents. Vanilla essence. Always remember to lick19:17  the spoon. Shit, shit. Okay,19:20  experiments. Well, it will depend where the cakes today in that shop are subject to sales tax will they're not? Firstly, they might have a sales tax on them. Let's assume that they don't have a sales tax on and then that birthday cake is going to be selling to tax free. And of course you wouldn't pay it would be exempted which there would be no GST on it. Under our system. If it was run with a sales tax today, it would attract the GST. And then the difference would be the difference between the two taxes whatever the sales tax rate is on birthday cakes how it's decorated because there'll be sales tax perhaps in some of the decorations as well. And then of course the price. The price will reflect that according19:58  smelling blood Mike Wallasey with him for the cube has found20:02  the birthday cake. I've been trying to make a simple example. You tell us in what you've published that the cost of cake goes down, the cost of confectionery goes up. That's icing and maybe ice cream, and then just candles on top of20:17  luck. How can I forget candles? Johnny will20:21  stick right in candles as you say that attract sales tax. And of course we scrapped the sales tax yet before20:28  the public reaction with instant the GST ruin cake. And Houston's mistake was fatal. The interview gave Paul Keating everything he needed to take five back to its knees and to win the election. It's been said that he is the never again ordered dessert, and he prefers to spend his birthdays alone. And while we may never know if fight back would have saved Australia, there's one thing we could all agree on. Take it away, Mike.20:58  That the answer to a birthday cake is so complex. You do have a problem with the overall GST GST.21:03  The cost of living is out of control. Do you know in 2022, I had to sell my Southern Highlands estate. I just sold my Northern Highlands estate. I had to sell my Western Highlands estate so I could buy a Gold Coast mansion. It's ridiculous what's a child was baby boomer to do. Thankfully before they were booted out of office, the coalition had a good idea to solve the housing crisis.21:23  The federal government is working hard to ensure all Australians have a home with check builder. We're building 10,000 new homes over the next 100 years using the most sustainable resource known to the coalition novelty sized checks. Previously, every single novelty sized check that a coalition politician gives to a scout Hall sporting club or small business had to be shredded at a bag in a novelty sized shredder. But with cheque builder, they will be turned into social housing. Rest your head each night in a room constructed of Scott Morrison's broken promises I'm very okay with the idea of building car parks to take your morning dump surrounded by the signature of Bridget McKenzie, I am very proud of the sports grants programme all stand in your kitchen surrounded by million dollar views of million dollar checks made out for Josh Frydenberg car parks that never got built22:18  with respect to the car parks in my own electorate. They haven't been built as yet.22:24  And the more promises the coalition makes the more houses we can build with cheque builder. And that's a promise you can take to the bank, Authorised by the novelty size government run by novelty sized men Canberra.22:36  But it turns out giant novelty checks have a supply chain issue after elections. So the coalition joined forces with the mining industry to solve the housing crisis with another policy.22:46  The Morison government is serious about the future of Australians. That's why we're introducing whole sicker Australians will now have the opportunity to access $50,000 of their superannuation to buy their first bunker.23:00  I'm all in on the side of those who want to buy a hole with hole seeker23:04  live out the rest of your life hiding 10 metres underground from whatever catastrophic shitshow the world is hurtling towards who cares what 50k might grow into in 30 years time? Will there even be banks in 30 years, or a job to retire from or air withhold seeker your children and their children's children can feast on canned food or share oral histories about the outside and develop innovative ways to drink their own pee. While the earth witnesses an apocalyptic nightmare of biblical proportions.23:39  It boosts their ultimate retirement incomes, because they're investing in their own home the best investment anyone ever makes.23:45  No matter if you're a first bunker buyer or buying your third investment bunker, sign up for whole seeker and vote for the coalition if your main concern is the cost of living on this planet.23:57  I believe buying a hole is the best economic decision that you can make24:02  authorised by oh my god, you can't be serious. How far can you kick this can down the road before it all comes crashing down Canberra24:06  may 2022 and election promises came thick and fast, including a new proposal to keep crucial death machines operational.24:16  At the Australian government, we know that coal powered electricity plants are running out of time. On one hand, they're old, expensive, and make climate change worse every minute they run. But on the other hand, the coal industry also provides critical baseload donations to the LMP. So that's why we're launching coal keeper. We're spending $7 billion a year to keep coal powered polluting clunkers running way past their use by date. That way the LNP can get more donations from the coal industry to stay way past our use. By Date, the government could invest in new wind, solar and storage that renewable energy is too clean to give us donations, called keeper. A reliable source of donations at the cost of only four $100 per household per year, and everyone's existence25:10  it's with regrets that in May we bid farewell to every single one of Scott Morrison's ministries, which at that point we knew nothing about, and Australia went to IKEA to pick out a new cabinet. Also, the so called comedian Mark Humphreys bid farewell to one of his characters to Barabbas loins live on stage at the Sydney Opera House for the irrational fear 10th birthday, which you could listen to only on Patreon. Please welcome the rabbits login.25:38  Rabbits Thank you very much. Good eye on nationals MP Barabbas loins member for awful seed and until recently minister for tow bars and Special Envoy for McLeod's Daughters. Let me first say a big hello to those in the nosebleed seats. And normally that's the people at the back that after some sinus issues at my recent press club address, the first couple of rows should prepare, prepare for some splashback. Two weeks ago, the Australian people made a foolish error, electing a government that can't be trusted on energy policy. The coalition's policy, however, is crystal clear, and it is this, the sun doesn't always shine, and the wind doesn't always blow. That's really all we know about whether in the coalition. And I look forward to taking that level of expertise to voters in another three years time. But even more tragic than the change of government was the decision this week by my colleagues to remove me as leader of the National Party. But fear not. This does mean I will have much more time to focus on what really matters. Writing my memoirs. Inspired by Don Watson's portrait of Paul Keating recollections of a bleeding half, I was going to call mine recollections of a bleeding loins.26:58  But focus group testing suggested people found that unappetizing even more so than that Mark Latham Alan Jones cookbook. It's an older reference, but I'll stick with it. Reluctantly, I went for something more tasteful. Hence the title, loins, warts and all. There's a lot more like that. My publisher was worried the title will make people think that the book is all about STIs when in fact only one chapter is devoted to genital warts. Now I know I know Ernest highway or Franz Kafka, but I think my writing think about it. Well, I think my writing is pretty good. Goins warts, and all may not win the Man Booker Prize, but, but it has been long listed for the Andy Griffith kids writing competition. I can also recommend the book to those participating in the MS readathon as it has been known to leave many readers with neurological damage.28:08  So for your enjoyment, here's the taste of loins warts and all coming soon to all underwhelming street libraries. Okay, dedication. I dedicate this book to my oldest friend Trent. Trent is my youth. Chapter one. Call me Ishmael. When I asked Siri what a good opening line for a book would be she said that. But I think Siri should have said call me Barabbas because my name is Barabbas Ishmael chapter to the affair. I will never forget when I first saw her. I had an excited feeling down below. I usually only experienced during state of origin. I knew it was wrong. But the loins wants what the loins once she was cab and I wanted to give her herpes even though obviously I don't have herpes. Please consult the footnote for results of my STI test from 1998. It was a classic boy meet staffer story29:26  the kind of romance you've read about in numerous workplace culture booklets. I was driving. I was driving her home because my electorate of Appleseed has banned Uber in favour of our own ride sharing app Utah. It's a good app because every time you ride with you to you get to ride in the youth and to show her that she holds a special place in my heart and groyne we stopped at a Mac as drive thru as I want That's the way she tantalisingly scraped a chicken nugget around the edge of a container of sweet and sour sauce. I knew it was on for young and old. She was young guy was had nothing to lose but our careers and standing in the community. I put the CD player on Joe Cocker as you can leave your head on. Not that I need a judge's permission, mind you. Visual, visual gag though it is a helpful reminder that the ladies that the Cooper doesn't come off for anyone. And although it's not in the song, I believe Joe would have also wanted me to keep on my RM Williams, which I dutifully obliged. Are you wearing protection? She asked. Yes, I said, thinking she meant the Cobra with a UV factor of 15. Plus, I wasn't taking any chances. We were like two ships passing in the night, except where one ship repeatedly rammed into the other one.31:03  It's really good mark.31:09  It would be ungentlemanly of me to detail our passion any further. But that's not what was agreed to in the contract with my publisher. So I must push on. If the interior of minus and Navarro could speak, I imagined it would say something like for I have to say I would be inclined to what have I done? I would be inclined to agree with the interior. That night I wasn't the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport. I was I was the special envoy for getting it on. As well as bleeding the Joint Standing Committee for inappropriate use of Snagit. was more as it was heaven. I even said the correct name on more than one occasion. That night, we went on a one way trip to pleasure town with a brief detour by Streetsville because I suffered a hell of a cramp in my left calf, and needed to stretch for a bit. Thank heavens for the generous legroom of the Nissen nivara. Little did I know that pleasure town would not be our final destination, as we will be driving right on through to baby city, not a literal city, but a metaphor for the miracle of childbirth. I don't think God is the final page. When I found out she was pregnant, I knew it was time for me to accept responsibility and do the right thing. So I got down on one knee and said, Let's keep this secret until the media finds out. It was a difficult pregnancy, photos of my pregnant partner was splashed on the front pages of major tabloids, which infuriated me as I had hoped to sell them to the highest bidder. It was also difficult for my four daughters, but Abby, Burr, Emily or Eleanor and brassica. Dad, you've slipped up but no matter what we still love you is what I imagined they would say if we were still on speaking to. The birth was also difficult, especially as the obstetrician insisted that I not reach into my partner's cervix to retrieve the infant like I would do with a baby calf. That's the line okay. Good to know. Prior to the birth of my son questions had been raised about his paternity admittedly by me, but as soon as he appeared, He emptied his bowels. And as I looked at him, they're causing a complete mess and drowning in his own shit. I knew once and for all that he was definitely mine. Thank you very much.33:58  Thank you, Miranda.34:00  Owl Barabbas Lloyds, I'll miss having our casual off the cuff conversations about small modular nuclear reactors with you over a few drinks down at our local Pontus Chairman's lounge. And a note here about a rational fear sponsor, Australian ethical. Since 1986. Australian ethical has been managing the investments and superannuation for everyday Australians. By investing ethically, Australian ethical avoids human trafficking weapons, fossil fuels and gambling you know, all the stuff I'm into. These people don't have taste. Big thank you to Australian ethical. Come August Anthony Albanese had 100 days of office under his belt, and much like me when I've got anything under my belt, he was determined to shake it loose and show how different he was.34:44  The Australian Labour Party is finally in charge. But don't worry conservatives. We're not here to shake things up. Good governance means more of the same but different, more of the same petroleum exploration but not on Sydney's North Shore in the Southern Ocean. More of the same destruction of sacred sites and song lines, but not for iron ore, for gas.35:06  whatever our differences in political parties we share a love for coal seam gas drilling.35:13  And yes, we know it looks like we've rushed into passing a bill on climate action. But don't worry, it's weeks Pearson won't change a thing.35:21  The Australian people voted for change. And we intend to give them nothing.35:26  Australian labour same suits, different tie. In September 2022, irrational fear performed at the Festival of Dangerous Ideas and event that even I, Alan Jones, the facilitator of the race ride have never been invited to perform at a GOP cow. It's during the show on Australian secrets, Kate McClymont gave tips on how to avoid35:54  right, I am going to give you some tips tonight on how to avoid me. So I find now that often when I ring people up, I can hear them and I say oh, it's Kate McClure I'm on here I can hit and go. But anyway, if you want to be secret, one of the things I want to advise you is not to buy a voice distorter. So I did have someone ring up to give me some very highly confidential information. And they'd gone to the trouble of buying a voice distorter. And it did sound like a crazed robot. But the information was absolutely fabulous. And I said at the end of the conversation, thank you so much. And now I can get you on this number. The safe forgotten. Voice distorter number still came up. Don't buy voice disorder. And too. If you want to remain secret, please use Australia Post snail mail, it's still the best way to send things. However, if you are one of the unburied family, and you are sitting there sending me death threats, please wear gloves. Your fingerprints were on the envelope. And on the inside. So gloves if you really don't want to be caught. And one other thing I'd like to advise Eddie obeyed was in the past. When I rang his office to get some questions. He forgot to hang up. The phone on and I listened for 20 minutes, as they discussed how they were going to lie to me what they were going to say. And in the end, I had to call in on the office. And I said look, Eddie, it's been so lovely hearing you talk about me. It's been so lovely hearing your plans. However, I really need a comment and I just heard them go off. They hung up. Another thing is that when a major crime figure has died, don't go behind the crypt at the funeral to discuss where the money is. This happened at many Macpherson's funeral, and I'd already been threatened. So I thought I would hide behind the crypt on the other side of the crypt, whistling the McPherson solicitor, who was chatting away about where the money was hidden, what companies they had. So that was very handy. And having said those things, I do want to just take one moment to say that I am also an idiot when it comes to, you know, giving my own things away. Louis reminded me today that I accidentally sent a pin with my location on it to the head of the Hells Angels. Caitlin climber is here. Not so good. Then I sent a photo of my ear. How would you take a photo of your ear and send it but I sent that to one of my colleagues who thought I somebody had cut it off and I was and then the last thing I did was that I did have my phone in my pocket. And I sent a whole lot of gibberish to Twitter. And people contacted me saying should they call the police had I been kidnapped? Had I been kidnapped? And was this a secret cry for help? So I would just like to say that I too, like many of the criminals I cover am an idiot.39:44  October 2022 politics in Australia became so boring. We all started to tune in to the UK politics, which was like reading Harry Potter for the first time.39:55  To outsiders the conservative party may look like it's a fucking on new Sham. polls. But to those of us on the inside, we're staying true to our promise to get Britain moving under the Tories, more British people than ever are moving to Europe. Thanks to the Conservative Party, the people of Britain are moving vigorously to keep warm, but the Conservatives are also walking the walk as a party. We're all moving offices every day moving, moving, moving. In fact, there's so much movement at Downing Street. There's a shortage of movers, even Prime Minister trusses looking at her poll numbers and having movements of her very own.40:38  I am determined to deliver40:42  the Conservative Party getting Britain moving figuratively, and literally40:48  watching UK politics for the last week. It's been like trying to catch up on a sci fi TV show you've missed a couple of seasons of the baddies is still in charge but all the characters have kind of changed you kind of don't know where the story is at. Joining us now to shed light on what the hell is happening over there is satirical comedian star of McTell week hosted the DMS are open podcast on radio for extra and a cracking Twitter feed. It's Athena Coupland. Welcome, Sina.41:12  Thank you for having me. How are you?41:14  Good, good, you know, full full kind of disclosure. Rick suggested this story. We all looked at we all looked at each other. And we're like, none of us know what is actually happening. We need an expert What the hell is happening over there in the UK?41:30  The fact you've called me tells me how desperately important you are. And the last I mean know even the politicians themselves that said last night they had a vote they might not be aware but like in Parliament, when you have a vote you either vote on the issue or if your party is in crisis, you vote says a tentative vote on the party. That makes sense. So last night, they were going Do you like fracking or not, but because the party was in such disarray, the break was going to turn into do like the conservatives or not basically this is a bit Fisher Price politics. Right. So42:03  seriously, looking at your political system, it's like looking at Harry Potter. Like we didn't know.42:08  It, just say like a fracking is like a really important issue like causes earthquakes, right? Yeah, no, no, that's not as important is to like, come you're not like how is that?42:19  Yeah, it feels like a twist in like a reality TV show. You know, like, you know, you thought it was gonna be about fracking.42:27  This tastes disgusting when they put in a contest and that's been evicted. So like. So genuinely, the politicians didn't know if they were voting for fracking, or for the party this morning. I was trying to find out what was it about in any case, they ended up voting for earthquakes because earthquake because we were not on a top line and it's not fair. When you sit on a fault line, you get you know, you get quakes and so why don't we Why don't we create a natural disaster so we can be on the news today? I mean, we just got on the news.43:02  We've got a natural disaster though. It's the Tory party. You know. Fracking.43:17  Here is how ITV said what went down last night.43:21  It has been a night of astonishing scenes at Westminster with reports of jostling manhandling bullying and shouting outside the parliamentary lobbies in a suppose vote of confidence in the government. The deputy chief whip was reported to have left the scene saying I'm absolutely effing furious. I just don't effing care anymore before he resigned along with the chief whip, but we've just been told they have now officially on resigned. The Home Secretary has however definitely got insurance. It is total absolute abject chaos43:58  as well so this was a that was supposedly your vote on whether or not the parties have voted lose trust this trust risk the vote to even vote on herself. First of all it was she wants fracking she thinks it sucks he thinks it's important right and just security so she missed the boat on fracking.44:18  That's why she missed it she was she was pumping gas into the ground. She was busy fracking data number 10 Yeah,44:25  so she missed that I wrote to say that I like me. So this is why I suppose44:30  this is why I chose this subject because I don't know anything about it but I do know that it's very funny. And also I see a lot of myself in live traps like she'sunderstanding how money works or market44:47  right? I do love I love that like ITV at the at the end that like because my brain is working in like a music and radio station when I hear so like total abject chaos. with that thing underneath, I'm just waiting for like a dubstep drop to kick in45:11  reporters they seem to always have like such a sense of urgency that you could absolutely remix it and make it a sick club mix. Like45:22  I'm surprised it hasn't been done already, to be honest. And you have to do these. That's the reason why these things happen so they can go viral on the internet. That's what I think to be fair, I do think I'm being a bit cynical. I do think though, they're ramping it up a bit. Just a little clip of them going crazy can go viral, because the good thing about this chaos is it was it's been chaotic for about four weeks. What we've got now if you've got pitches on MPs Avenue Arch bargy in Parliament, but this has been this as the status has been the status quo you know, this is not this is not this last night in many ways is unremarkable. It's just it was just funny because I vote in Parliament you don't have bits of paper you literally you vote with your body you go through a yes chamber or no change it's really you46:03  don't you don't have a button46:08  so that's all happening was46:14  a please don't please don't think this is fisher price because we have literally no idea that's amazing.46:21  It's incredible so the chief whip said the chief whip says it's their job to get people to vote the quote unquote right way to vote with us not against us but because you're not going to get paid for you have to physically move people if the right chamber right so what was happening last night it was they were literally getting them by the exit or whatever. Like apparently there was a bit people were like saying it was like brilliant, like they were like apparently,46:42  Jacob Riis. Mog was one of the people manhandling which is like noodle closet.46:50  If you let Jacob Riis, mog bad habit you get yourself to help still get some iron supplements. Protein shakes. You are withering away the cost of living crisis to doing something because Jacob Riis, mog made us do it. She came home from school, we said I'm being bullied and they've put in a kid and they're taking these Rob, I would kick them out of the house.47:21  And being bullied by like one of those car yard like47:26  I love this line from the chancellor Jeremy Hunt. He told a meeting of colleagues on Wednesday, he said according to someone in the room, this is what Jeremy Hunt said, this would be really interesting shit if I wasn't in the middle of it.47:39  Fundamentally, basically, is because there's an Elisa that has no authority. When she says jump, they all sit down and pick their noses. And when when they do what she says the markets go, What the hell are you doing? You're crazy. So they're in a weird place where they can't do what they've been told. Because what they've been told is horrendous, but not doing what they're told that government can't function. And so that's what we're saying about General Electric, which is horrible because no one likes elections. They're just horrible. You tell them the TV, listen, slow mo the child crying, or whatever some would call it because video. It's just very boring. I think we should just get the formality of a general election. And we should just just edit a coup, but a nice,48:19  nice, consider just going for Mauna Kea, like now you've got the king.48:25  I mean, you know, I mean for the crack. I mean48:30  what about a reverse Monica, you could have our prime minister roll over you it'd be great. Ya know,48:35  we like your one your new ones Nice. We'd like that do48:39  Undercover Boss but just to you know, live trust but48:45  you know, like a school you do like exchange student trips, and you go to France so the family and they stay with you. Let's do an exchange.48:53  Right? Yeah, I don't think we want Ms dress.48:55  It's such fun drama. It's real, like keeping up with it quite tangy. And then and49:09  like, it was just about work. It's very interesting. What's happened now is because and what people are forgetting is it. Boris Johnson two years ago, kicked all the reasonably smart people out of the cabinet because they were not on board this Brexit plan so if you're not with me or against me, any fill this cabinet with idiots. I mean, I don't even see those kind of people who probably weren't very skilled at what they did. And that's a one by one. We've lost anyone with a semblance of common sense. And now we're left with people who just like walking around and saying I'm important. And then you ask them to do something and they can't do anything because they're thick. And there's no one and no one in the back bench who might be good at it been in the cabinet wants to observe it. So that's been run out of options. Yes, yeah. Yeah. Read a book and get smart, but that's not going to happen. Well, that49:59  takes time. time and50:01  your energy crisis.50:03  There's a real problem with the conservative party among many others. But you know, our conservative party they basically roll Prime Ministers whenever they want. They say let's get rid of this guy. Next week the next person in line, we've had enough of this person, but the UK Conservative Party has to wait 12 months before they can ever party motion to wrong someone.50:21  You know something all of these things mean nothing. They really do mean nothing. They just they say that but they'll just change the rules. They'll change the rules and I hope they I hope they do because it's because nobody wants to talk for months. I won't lie like they're looking for windup torches. I'm telling you how power power they kind of they prepared with the press releases and the news bulletins say you're in the dark sorry about that, or whatever. So I50:48  can recommend anything. It would be a solar foldout solar panel, you can charge your phone in the50:52  UK it climate change50:58  is bringing trust down and climate change is bringing this podcast down.51:04  It really was just leaves holding you all together, wasn't it?51:09  The crazy thing so we got rid of forests that can it can't get any worse. And now people are saying we need both shots and back. It's it's sort of it's sort of it51:17  for now. I even heard Theresa Mays name resurfaced51:21  where everybody roll carries.I think he's not. Some college idli51:39  Rick,51:42  I'm aware of what he did. But he was just because I don't know why he was on my mind. I regret saying that.51:48  Come November 2022. The Australian transaction reports and Analysis Centre sent shockwaves through shonky betting agencies. And as the owner of Australia's most richest horse race, the Everest May I just say austrack are the finest institution we have in Australia. They're very talented, maybe even more talented than Anthony Kalia. So to austrack I say good luck out there boys.52:15  Oh no generic trading. What's that bloke man sports betting bet 365 are being audited by austrac Oh, what are the odds are that pretty good according to austrack52:25  the Australian transaction reports and Analysis Centre is bringing financial auditing to the palm of your hand stream every raid Live Trace every transaction be dockside for every judicial ruling. And you and your mates can band together with a sane investigation multi52:47  Oh put upon upon aiding and abetting money laundering. Yeah, and I'll put a dame Nellie Melba on funding terrorism a lobster on them getting off scot free. Better make it a tonne.52:57  austrac been put good pants or bad.53:03  Another month goes by another high profile data breach this time of a health company. If you ask me it's an absolute disgrace. There is only one way that the private information of an individual should be made public and that is on a breakfast radio show. Don't have these hackers no respect. Disgusting.53:22  At Medibank private, we regret the recent data breach of our customers personal information. And while the hackers tried to convince us to pay their ransom as any of our customers trying to lower the cost of life saving medical treatment will tell you we never negotiate. That's why Medibank private is rebranding as of today will be known as Medibank public. So whether you have your first leaky bomb, like Phyllis Thompson of six fo in place Wangaratta or your third STI like Gustav Montague of 35 to brookstreet bonobo Queensland four to seven five whose blood type is so positive and mother's maiden name is Vaughn summer and has three points left on his licence and he's so heavily laden with debt that an extra $5,000 in fees won't make that much of a difference to him tax file number oh three one double 9381 You will get the same overpriced service without any more data breaches. Because it's too late. It's all out there now anyway. Medibank public, we feel better now that there's no more secrets.54:21  November 2022. So the kickoff of the biggest sporting event in the world since I used to coach the wallabies, the FIFA World Cup, nothing more joyous than a month of men running around in their prime for 90 minutes. It's ballet for the commoners.54:37  This Sunday, the entire globe descends on Cata for the event no one will talk about it's the turning a blind eye World Cup54:47  football players that's up picking a champion eto for the wildcards alleged Oh J Trump every game as a loser. There are just lots more losers and football teams playing Oh, I've seen54:58  jockstraps treats better than the construction workers in Qatar55:02  32 nations will go head to head and then turn their heads to look the other way.55:07  Oh no. They've completely mistakes. Look at that. The exploitation, the corruption, the discrimination, the total inability to buy a beer.55:19  Which country will rationalise the cost of kicking around a ball on a field in a country without fields?55:26  I've gotta say cats are is hosting the most awful job that I've ever refused to witness and the final stories migrant deaths 6500 versus the world now, interest55:39  get ready to ignore all of the action further turning a blind eye World Cup or ticket will buy you a whole seat that was installed by someone who died of heat exhaustion.55:50  The Emir of Qatar has come to his senses. It's true. I have come to my senses all stadiums must go at the Qatar Black Friday sale aid barely use stadiums are going for next to nothing. Coincidentally, they're also currently standing next to nothing pristine seats, unused beer taps, mystery bones in the foundation. I don't know how that got there. Perfect if you're hosting your own World Cup ideal for creating an internment camp or if you're a New South Wales premier just wanted to buy a stadium to knock it down to get your mates to build your new one just like it these stadiums cost $200 billion, but could be yours for a shitload of sheep. It's not a bad deal. Qatar's blackFriday stadium sale an opportunity like this won't present itself until an autocratic regime bribes FIFA to make bad decisions again.56:37  It's our culture. Please respect it. Also in November, Anthony Albanese had his first ever bilateral with China's President G. And judging by the press conference afterwards, it sounds like we're getting married. Thank you, everyone. Yes, thank you. Okay, ready. I want to thank President sheet for a productive conversation. Sure, Australia and China have our differences. China has a problem with disappearing protesters. We know exactly where ours are under very strict bow conditions. China is increasing coal use. We are far more into gas. China's indigenous populations face imprisonment, relocation, theft of their land, reeducation, discrimination, forced labour and organ harvesting. We don't do the organ harvesting part. But despite our differences, there's something China and Australia can agree. The best way to support work is to help rich people get richer. Thank you. No questions. What about the questions? Oh, nope. There's another similarity. I forgot about repressing press freedoms and I forget that we're becoming more and more like you every day. As December rolled around New South Wales, Premier Dominic ParaType got into the Christmas spirit by saying that jailing of a climate protested for stopping traffic on the Sydney Harbour Bridge for 20 minutes was quite pleasing to see. You know, what else is pleasing to see Anthony Kalia Live in Concert? Now there's someone who could stop traffic. One a voice.58:14  On the next season of Wentworth, a new contender for top dog has arrived at the prison.58:21  I took a knife and I put it in the side of my husband's abdomen and then I let his intestine spill out across the marble floor of our harbour side mansion. So new fish, or the UN for58:33  iPad to track on the Sydney Harbour Bridge.58:37  Your time total badass.58:39  I then delay traffic for about 20 to 25 minutes. Why would you do that? Because our government isn't doing enough about climate change. Girls.58:48  I resign. Coco was the new top dog around here.58:52  And if you come for the king, you better nothing carbon positive.58:55  It's a whole new level of disproportionate justice. This season on web only on showcase which is on something called Foxtel.59:08  Ask your parents about it. And finally a word from our King though not me the real King King Charles who just this week gave his first Christmas address.59:17  It's now easier to read your majesty just put it back the words are clearly on it. Look, I wrote it in Comic Sans. I want to read it in comics in Yes, Your Majesty.59:29  Good evening subjects and people who live in countries we forgot to invade when times were better. King Charles here to wish you all a very Merry Christmas. Just another one of the many goddamn jobs I've had to learn to do at age 75. Did you know that I also have to be the head of the church to Christ almighty. 2022 was a year of challenges for us all. Mummy died and one had to use a blasted inkwell. This year, we're thinking of those suffering at the hands of cancelled culture, namely, Netflix, Hulu subscription we've cancelled for the entire palace. Our thoughts and prayers also go out to those who are suffering under the rule of governments undergoing bloody cool, like in the Kingdom of Great Britain. But there is always hope. For those of you concerned about mommy's legacy, don't worry. It's in good hands. Sure the hands are a little puffy and red, but working fine. Nevertheless. So from all of the top tier Royals, except for Andrew, we wish you all a Merry Christmas. Oh, God, dammit who put this bloody tree here? Why is it inside?1:00:51  Just get rid of it. Just get it get get rid of it. Your Majesty. Of course, your majesty a tree with1:00:57  lights and shit all over it. You can't go chopping down trees with the environment. Bloody hell.1:01:07  Well, that's it for rational faith in the year 2022. Big thank you to everyone who listens to the show, especially those people on Patreon who chip in a small amount each month to make it happen. Also a big thank you to Jacob round on the teppanyaki timeline, all of the comedians of Australia who come into play with us and until next year, there's always something to be scared of. I'm Alan Jones.Transcribed by https://otter.aiHeading into the election your support is going to be more crucial than ever!Thank you FEARMONGERS!If you enjoyed this please drop us a review on Apple podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/a-rational-fear/id522303261--------------A Rational Fear on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The Boys Say Some Bad News — Bec Charlwood, Alex Jae, Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba

The Boys Say Some Bad News — Bec Charlwood, Alex Jae, Dan Ilic, Lewis Hobba

🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🐬  A Rational Fear is supported in part by Australian Ethical 🎟 TICKETS TO ADELAIDE FRINGE FESTIVAL NOW ON SALEG’day Fearmongers —On the final regular podcast of the year we’ve got a cheap and cheerful chat on the podcast that the Dude Cinema hosts have labeled “The Boys Say Some Sad News Podcast”. We’re lucky to have said hosts — Alex Jae and Bec Charlwood join us for a spot of fearmongering.We talk about:🚬 NZ banning smoking for people born in 2008 and later.🗃 NZ Rental Crisis is bad.🤖 Elon Musk being booed off stage in San Francisco.Happy Christmas to you all, may all your policy dreams come true. We'll be back for New Year's Eve for our best of A Rational Fear sketches special.And if you’re in Adelaide you can buy a ticket to our Fringe Festival show now!DanGuest BookerChappelle Show 🤑 CHIP IN TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFear📨 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR EMAIL LIST: http://www.arationalfear.com/🐬  A Rational Fear is supported in part by Australian Ethical 🎟 TICKETS TO ADELAIDE FRINGE FESTIVAL NOW ON SALE   0:00  This podcast is supported in part by Australian ethical Day Lewis.0:05  Hello, Dan, how are you?0:07  I'm very well. I'm a little cold colder than usual. I don't know if our listeners can hear but currently, I am sitting outside. Outside doing this outdoors. It's very exciting.0:18  You look like you're doing some sort of like war correspondent like your crash down in a car park. Like you looked at I looked like you're reporting on the Boxing Day sales.0:29  That's well, I'm actually I'm doing some pre reporting on the Boxing Day sales. I'm here at Westfield in Chatswood on top of the roof because I'm doing my Christmas shopping and doing my Santa photo and nothing can stop the Santa photo was not even this podcast. I've had to find space and time and I've had to try to get tethering working. I hope it's all recording. I hope it sounds okay. But you know, all we can do is hoped for the best.0:55  You sound weirdly amazing. Are you Santa? Is that what's happening? You take a quick break from your job as Santa.1:00  My nipples are hard. I couldn't be on the North Pole. This is what this is what we have a hey, I want to say a big thank you to Joel Pittman, Joshua Nicholson toe Lowe's, Stu holding and the incredible illustrator, comedian Megan Herbert, who joined us on Patreon this week. Thank you so much. It's a great way to support the show head to patreon.com forward slash irrational fear. You get an ad free version of this show and Louis we've got some live shows coming up which remind people Adelaide to Melbourne on sale Adelaide is firming up. We've got Alex Fraser and Gabby bolt joining us for Adelaide. But Melbourne is pretty exciting. We've got Alice Fraser, Sami Shah, and somebody who did the show last year Lewis who is excited to come back to do their second ever. Comedy Spot on stage.1:44  Oh, really?1:46  Yeah. Yeah. She they texted me to say in and again,1:52  that's greatly awesome. If it's too I think it is can you put me on before them this time, so I don't have to follow the most beloved person in Australia.2:03  You're gonna close the show. We can't rely on newbies to close the show. All hands closed the show. Yeah, so Melbourne. Make sure you get your tickets for that we are performing April 2 in Melbourne at the capital of huge venue. But we've got some great guests, including some others we haven't announced yet. So full announcement next year in the new year. I'm recording my end of irrational fear on gamma ray go land on the rooftop of Westfield. Sovereignty was devastated. We need a treaty. Let's start the show.2:33  A rational fear contains naughty words like bricks, Canberra, and gum and section 40 of a rational view recommended listening by immature audience.2:47  Tonight Elon Musk appears on stage in San Francisco and gets booed by a crowd of 10,000 of his children. And Scott Morrison claims Robo debt was not his fault as one of his multiverse clones was prime minister at the time, and Dominic ParaType threatens to shut down Christmas as elves vote to Unionise it's the 15th of December 2022. And this is the podcast that is Elliot banks refuses to come back on. This is a rational fear.Welcome to irrational fear. I'm your host disgraced Sky News Anchor Dan Ilic. And this is the podcast that takes the week's news and express posts to the tip for the final time in 2022. Let's meet our fear mongers for tonight. Yes, they are the CO hosts of bobbly, the ladies guide to dude cinema podcast now, just dude cinema podcast and they're not afraid to tell you that your favourite film is probably pretty rubbish. It's Vic Charlwood and Alex J. Welcome to restaurants. Merry Christmas. You know coming into summer, we've got a big blockbuster season coming up. What is the dirtiest cinema? You're hoping to check out over summer just just give us one thing? What is the duty of cinema?4:11  I mean, it's Tarantino releasing his next film. That would be that4:16  basically. Is it avatar is is the new avatar.4:21  I would have to say the new avatar is definitely the duty is first of all, it's coming back into our lives after being absent for 13 years just like my dad4:34  will do a full dude cinema summer blockbuster at the end of the podcast, but please, stay standing. The king of Australia. It's now easier to read your majesty4:46  just put it back the words are clearly on. Look. I wrote it in Comic Sans. I want to read it in comics in Good evening subjects and people who live in countries we forgot to invade When times were better, King Charles here to wish you all a very Merry Christmas. Just another one of the many goddamn jobs I've had to learn to do at age 75. Did you know that I also have to be the head of the church to Christ almighty 22 was a year of challenges for us all. Mummy died, and one had to use a blast at inkwell. This year, we're thinking of those suffering at the hands of cancelled culture, namely, Netflix, Hulu subscription we've cancelled for the entire palace. Our thoughts and prayers also go out to those who are suffering under the rule of governments undergoing bloody coup, like in the Kingdom of Great Britain. But there is always hope. For those of you concerned about mummys legacy. Don't worry. It's in good hands. Sure the hands are a little puffy and red, but working fine. Nevertheless. So from all of the top tier Royals, except for Andrew, we wish you all a Merry Christmas Temitope put these bloody tree here. Why is it inside? Just get rid of it. Just get it get get6:20  rid of it. Your Majesty. Of course, Your Majesty.6:23  A tree with lights and shit all over it. You can't go chopping down trees. Think of the environment. Bloody hell6:31  Hill. It's always good to have your majesty on the podcast. Alright, let's get stuck into some fears. Two big stories tonight coming from New Zealand First fear New Zealand passed the law to ban cigarette sales to everyone born after 2008 Yes, starting next year, the country's smoking age of 18 will be raised year on year. And so eventually it's gonna be applied to the whole population. So if you are under 50 Now, you're basically going to be banned for life for the rest of your life to buy cigarettes fear mongers, will this outride smoking ban work back?7:05  I can hear the use of New Zealand crying? Oh no, I guess we'll just have to vape then. What can I don't friggin care. vaping is cool, guys. I reckon this is smoking, admitting defeat. This is what's happening. Giving up to vaping and they can't admit it.7:26  There's gonna be this huge black market soon, you know, people are gonna be buying cigarettes in school, like imagine being like the one year above the people in school. Like who you can actually or you can buy cigarettes but people when you below you can't and be like, What do you think about that punk? And once some cigarettes, no, you can't. It's illegal buddy. Dude all your life, there's gonna be doing it until you at least 50 or 60. Or until you die. You know, there's gonna be7:51  there'll be a huge black market for like, almost CGI and fake IDs. Because at some point, it's gonna be a 20 year old who needs a 40 year olds ID. So I think that's the black market is gonna be like the production value is gonna be off the chain.8:03  And half the people in New Zealand all work at wetter so they've got the skills to make these8:08  Do you feel as though home of Lord of the Rings that's you know, heaps of production value there. Just go go use their studios slaughter the8:15  smoke rings now think it's good. I think if there's one thing that we've always learned is that the more rules that are put on cigarettes, the less people want to shop. I do think that like the one good thing about this is it does mean that in like 20 years, millennials will actually have something that someone else doesn't have like these are our houses now. Like we'll be able to like do you know Louis has three cigarettes.8:48  Yeah, Milan,8:50  will be basically the last cool generation because, yeah, you can't be cool. Unless you smoke cigarettes. Yeah,8:56  probably the most shocking thing for me in this story is that there are people who were born in 2008, who are about to turn 18 In a few years now. That's, that's, that's great. I'm always surprised how time works. I think it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be huge black market. Soon people in New Zealand are going to be bumming cigarettes and like, hiding it as if they were in school. Like, no matter what age they are, like, there'll be there'll be 50 or 60 trying to sneak a cigarette. And that's such a bizarre notion. We're9:27  just gonna have to start placing random demountable around the city so people can9:34  rational fear. All right, this week second fear it's another New Zealand Story. A tiny room in an apartment has been taken down off an accommodation website after someone suggested it was just a bed in a room that used to be a toilet. Yeah, the lister insisted that it wasn't designed to be lifted full time, but the cupboard size room was advertised as quote furnished and was perfect for taking naps in and you could fall asleep pee. Fully at any time and quote, this is a real home exclamation mark. And it was going for $180 A week fear mongers you can rent car parks bigger than this room in Sydney.10:12  How much was your car park dad?10:17  The beautiful thing about Westfield car parks during Christmas Louis is five hours free parking.10:23  Alright, let's do that10:24  this is not a sponsored this is not a sponsorship spot.10:26  There's a lot of sponsorships. I like a room that you can take naps in and take craps. It's a10:31  versatile room.10:32  They said it used to like it looks like it used to be a toilet but really like any room can be a toilet when you put your mind.10:39  You just gotta work for it. You just got to believe10:42  that I believe I think it's always good when you're like going through a post of something, you know, real estate related. And someone has to say this is real exclamation mark. It's always10:53  exists.10:57  Yeah, I don't know. This is real. I mean, it means that they know it's fucked11:01  the sentence before I feel like is even more threatening. You know, they say this is real exclamation mark. But the sentence before is fall asleep peacefully at any time. Like, that feels like a threat.11:16  There is poison in this room somewhere.11:18  Like opposed to other rental properties where you can only fall asleep peacefully at four and 6pm or something like it's a house just fall asleep.11:27  I guess I'd like to give give you a sense of freedom because you you don't have any freedom to hang up your clothes. So you have freedom to sleep anytime you want.11:37  Until the windowless11:38  nature of it does mean that it's kind of like a blackout room. So it's like a really good hotel when you get those or you think you could go to sleep in the middle of the day because you don't know what time it is.11:47  Yeah, and you can't buy those level of blackout curtains anywhere. They're hard to come11:51  by. I can tell you on this in this on this rooftop carpark. I could do with some blackout curtains right now.11:59  I just love to imagine anyone walking past you at the moment is like, Oh my God, that poor homeless man thinks he's doing12:06  great. Another white guy with a podcast at Westfield.12:09  looses rational fear.12:12  Y'all got a whole different kind of culture around here. She's never coming back. We are a racist country not to get in front of some audience of white people for them to be throwing shit at me.12:24  And finally, since this is the last irrational fear of the year, it's got a real end of school vibe to it. I feel like the last day of school we're really phoning this one in or like me, I'm car park again. I thought we would do something a little different. I want to hear your rational fears of the year. What are your nominations for fear of the year? What happened this year that made you go oh dear, that's not good. There's a few to choose from for me floods fascism. A return to 90s Fashion all reasons to be scared. But fear mongers what are some of yours? What are the things what are the the standout moments of the year that made you go? Oh, dear, that's not very good.13:01  Well, you just reminded me of another one. So yeah, I've got two but not key number one is now low res jeans coming back. 100%. And to my main one is Johnny Jett winning his defamation case that was scary AF13:18  sama for the lady13:21  having a good time on the internet as a lady13:24  just when you thought me too can bum you out anymore. Here comes the Johnny Depp Amber Heard case.13:34  Feels good. So that was terrifying.13:36  It was definitely one of those ones where you learn your bubble, like the comments section of any article about that. I was like, oh, there are people who think that?13:46  Nothing. Yeah. I just pretended that we're all books. Yeah. That's how I sleep at night.13:53  One of my pastimes is reading Daily Mail comments, and it makes me feel like the world is larger. That's for sure. Yeah.14:02  That's a nice way of saying Fox out there.14:07  What about you back? What's what's your number one meme of the year that made you go Oh, dear, that's not good. Oh, well,14:12  I am an anxious person despite who I am in every way outwardly. So I love I love a spiral. It's never just one fear. It's one fear that leads to another to another to another. So what was the first block to fall was finding out that Nick Cannon wilding out host and Elon Musk? Tech fuckhead both have breeding fetishes. Okay, that's scary. The second part of the fee came when days later I saw a tick tock right and this is not facts. But still it's in here so it feels like one that said apparently your fetishes are genetic. So if you have a fetish for something, there's a super high chance your parents had that same fetish, disgusting but then I put those two together. And now all Have the kids that Nick Cannon and Elon Musk are having? They're gonna have breeding fetishes. So that means I'm gonna say 200 years from now. 92% of the world's population is going to be direct descendants of Elon Musk and Nick Cannon.15:19  Oh my god. Oh, well, that is one way to populate Mars that is.15:25  As long as it's Mars, and it's not bloody here.15:29  All the people in Sydney will be paradise. Yeah.15:34  I went to the school with a paradise. In fact, I was Dominic's house captain. I was in school when they were Redfield. They were notorious for turning up to school in an in a high ace because their family has 13 kids. Oh. Yeah. They're very prolific breeders. I mean, that's great.15:55  Well, Harris, he's really just our own Australia's Nick Cannon isn't a16:00  Lewis is there a fear or a moment of the year that struck to you that, you know, this year that you think I'm gonna do like a vindicated fear, like a fear that when it came true, kind of made me happier? We actually talked about it on the podcast, which was earlier in the year and in fact, at the end of last year, the president of El Salvador went all in on crypto16:21  Germanus. That's right. Yeah, he was gonna do the crypto cryptocurrency. He was going16:27  to put the El Salvador cash into crypto. And he's he did a big press conference. And he was wearing a hat backwards. And the whole thing was just incredible. At the time, everyone was like, this man's insane. And there was a part of me that was like, I truly believe he's insane. And I truly believe this is the worst decision he's ever made. Because he's betting everything on a unicorn. That doesn't exist. And then when it Gore came crashing, I guess we're starting to see the crash now and the inevitability, but everyone's like, Oh, wait, we're investing in a dream that doesn't exist. But like, I know that that's bad news for the people of El Salvador. But it was there was something kind of hope filled in the fact that you want you were like, This is wrong. And it was wrong, which I feel like over the last few years hasn't been the way it's gone. I've been like, this is wrong, and it shouldn't go this way. And then it goes the complete other way that I'm expecting like, every everything from like Trump onwards, like, nothing has gone everything's gone the absolute opposite of the way in my mind, it should have. And this was one thing where I was like, No, I still have a grip. Some grip on reality sense. Yeah. Yeah, there is a tiny part of the world that still17:35  is it weird that I'm kind of envious that I'm like, yes, it's awful. It's a crazy thing to do. But if one day, albo got on TV and was like, Guys, this is gonna sound crazy. But I'm taking the federal budget and putting it on red. I'll be like, Ah, don't do that. But I want it but oh my god. You might as well double or nothing give it a go yeah, oh my god. Dan just had two strangers walk.18:11  In the Chicago Bulls jersey. He just looked so upset at you.18:16  This is Boomer podcasting. thing that really got struck me this year. I think the moment of fear for me was when Elon Musk threatened to buy Twitter and then forced himself to buy Twitter, and then bought Twitter and then just systematically destroyed Twitter. And the best thing that's ever happened this year so far, was Elon Musk getting up on stage with Dave Chappelle and him being booed for four minutes straight.18:41  I can't bring myself to watch that video, even though I desperately want to but I just don't know at this. I think a secondhand cringe would just kill me.18:48  I mean, for folks who you know, to I mean, back, you've played some big crowds this year, like you've toured with some big names.18:55  Alan Carr, who cares who Alan Carr National Treasure Anyway, anyway, so19:03  Alan Carr got Deke Smith up on stage. What do you think would have happened?19:09  I think everyone would say who the fuck is that? No idea who anyone.19:15  What what do you recognise Chappelle was thinking about when he brought Moscow up onstage.19:21  I think he's just completely lost his bearings. I think he's like, I think he thinks rich equals cool now. And he's like, he did the same thing. So he's got a sense of humour. Let's bring him on a fucking Stand Up Show.19:32  I think Chappelle also is running out of things. Because, you know, he does this thing at the top of the jokes where he'll say something controversial, and then be like, no, no, no. And then he'll do 20 minutes in the lead up to a punch line. And he's running out of those concepts. So he's just gonna bring out fuckheads and everyone goes19:52  turns into Barnum. Yeah, he was a monkey on a on an elephant.19:58  And also, like you could imagine show that in Dave Chappelle the world that no Dave Chappelle now inhabits like online or you know, like the kind of people that these days like Fuck yeah. Dave Chappelle are also like Fuck yeah. Elon Musk, generally speaking so he would have, I reckon he genuinely would have thought it was a slam dunk. Yeah. So20:15  in thinking about why it is weird that so many people booed him is he that hated that even chapels audience like that,20:25  like a lot of transphobia. But I hate this fuckwit20:27  know, that guy with all the kids.20:31  I mean, if I had to pick who Dave Chappelle is audience what social media they most flocked to, it's definitely Facebook. So a lot of them will probably just like, Who's this guy on stage.20:42  But they're just building Twitter. They're like,20:50  it was a gig in an arena in San Francisco. San Francisco is the headquarters of Twitter. Twitter has just like killed like 5000 people's jobs. Like it's such a strange like, what as Musk why would you want to get up and be stand in a room of people who hate you? Clearly, because you just lost heart. You lost all these people's jobs this week? Yes.21:12  That's another fetish of his. He's got a debt. What does that21:16  humiliation finish? Yes, he does. And we're just jerking this21:21  man off guys. What we need to stop.21:23  We need to turn the other way. The man ignore the richest man in the world because they have21:30  all the footage up. Did he have a boner? Ah.21:34  I know. I know the top of the show. You mentioned his earlier banks who's really just teeing off in Australia at the moment, but she is obviously pretty, like, unpredictable to say the least. But she also is when she's on fire like one of the funniest people in the world. And she's like a poet when she gets onto like a sledge situation. And she wants called Elon Musk apartheid Clyde. And it's one of the funniest things I've ever heard that she came up with that she came up with it. She was telling this whole story about how she went to visit Grimes Milan Moscow to like collaborate and she got lost in their house. And she's just like teeing off on grinds and teeing off on it. She was like apartheid Clyde. And it's the whole thing is worth reading. It's genuinely the best piece of prose that has been written in the last decade.22:22  In a second we're going to have a dude cinema podcast ranking of all the movies that are coming out this summer. But first, we have another Christmas address from another world leader who's remarking on the incredible profits that the Australian fossil fuel companies have made this year.22:39  That I either as a law and bookkeepers revenue. Now Queen is Dead. It is up to me la dear emir, poutine, to fill, vacuum and give Christmas message. 2022 has been a difficult year for enemies of Russia. But it's been a good year for Aussie fossil fuel companies. Thanks to me, Santi, it'd be a poutine when I bring you gifts like world peace, voluntary conscription, and energy market uncertainty when you might this means also the fossil fuel companies can raise prices higher than six storey apartment complex with dangerously open windows. And if Australian customers accidentally fall out the window, it is their own problem. You're welcome or see fossil fuel companies you're not sure option A and if you look under Christmas tree, I have left 45 billion for you and severed head of beer. Just to remind you who your friends are. From all of us here in Kremlin. Happy Christmas, even if you are Western dogs.23:45  Thank you glad deer meow. Always good to have glad on the pod versus23:51  rational fear.23:53  Elon Musk has shared another feed into save the planet. The father of 10 children says that the world needs to make more babies and keep digging for oil.24:02  If we don't have enough kids, then we will die with a whimper in adult diapers. And that will be depressing make more babies24:10  just pausing the podcast here to say Louis I'm very cold. And I think I'm freezing because of global warming. And I think global warming is a major problem. And that's why I've moved my super to an ethical super company. Well,24:24  I mean not to sound like a to TV radio presenter dead but I think there is no cold is not necessarily to do with global warming. It's it's because you're doing this from a roof or roof or the Westfield people doing podcasts on roofs that's been happening for 1000s of years. And so you can't necessarily put it down to being manmade podcasts on roofs24:44  and what's worse is I'm doing it from fossil fuel infrastructure a car park and it's not the most ethical place to to do a ethical podcast drop.24:53  No, this this is a very strange ad because no one can see that you are on a roof but I've just I have to stress this enough Dan is doing his podcasts are it's so important that Australian ethical, do good with your super and not just invested morally and ethically but for as much money as possible because I beg if you did get a studio25:15  we're trying we're trying we're doing this podcast for 10 years this is the first sponsor we've had and quite frankly the it pays the bills but it doesn't put a roof over your head so big thank you to Australia ethical and we really value your support and it's an absolute thrill that you allow us to get keep the show on the road and I think they're coming back next year Lewis which is very exciting. Amazing. Merry Christmas, and an ethical Christmas to all25:50  extra the extra fears extra level of fear factor extra25:53  extra fear extra as we head into extra fear it's great to have some real movie buffs on the show the ladies go to dude cinema now just caught dude cinema first of all ladies go to the cinema. Why did you lose the ladies guide part was it just because SEO or you're worried that Elon Musk would come calling?26:11  Honestly, it was just because we kept getting everyone to saying our name a little bit wrong because it's too late. It's like it's six words long. It's too long for people to remember. We were getting like the chicks guide to Lady cinema. Dudes guide to chick cinema.26:27  Lady cinema of dudes. Yeah,26:30  my mum this morning called it go girls cinema. We've only been doing it for four years but great. So cool. We just cut it down to two so people could find it. So just dude, cinema. That's what it is. Everyone remember dude, cinema send some26:49  of the big blockbusters coming out this year over summer. Which ones are going to end up on your podcast? Do you think? Hmm.26:56  There are a few coming out. Hey, so as you said earlier, back, I do definitely agree avatar is going to be on the list for sure. Because, like you said, it's been what 13 years did you save since the last 18 years? Yeah, and dudes fucking love a franchise that spans decades. So this is perfect dude cinema.27:16  And now similar. So was it split a generation. So that is definitely a big pull factor for men. Men love to argue. And this is going to create tension and men are going to27:28  Yeah, next Christmas is going to be wild Christmas lunches,27:33  allegedly going to be two more sequels. Before 2028 Judging by the schedule, that's probably going to be closer to like 2038. Again, separating another generation. So when we are a geriatric podcast, we will still be reviewing avatar and I27:51  will be so geriatric podcasts will be watching this TV series spin off of Avatar,27:58  and our VR goggles and where the Navi and we're flying on those big things. And we're like, oh, it's not as the CGI is not as good as whatever Marvel's putting out or things like that.28:09  Also is directed by James Cameron, which is, you know, film bros, uncle, basically, James Cameron.28:18  He thrives in a water movie environment. We know this from Titanic. So look that does have my hopes high. However, it is three and a half hours long, which is not compatible with my extreme ADHD that has only gotten worse over the pandemic. I will be bringing my phone into the cinema, I will not be apologising for it28:35  halfway through back, you could just start watching the first Avatar on your phone.28:41  Or people get28:45  to Sam, where things look so much older, it doesn't make any sense.28:49  Well, thank you so much for joining us on irrational fear. Really appreciate it big Charlwood Alex J. What an absolute thrill to have you do a crossover podcast with us with me on a roof. Which is you know that you know, you know, not many people get to experience this and with good reason. It's not a very practical place to record a podcast. I don't think I'll be doing it again.29:14  It's been a pleasure to be across over on the boys say some bad news. We'd love it.29:21  Boys guide to bad news podcast.29:24  Yeah, that is great. That is excellent. That's gonna go on our festival poster. What would you guys like to plug?29:33  Oh, well, the podcast dude cinema Coronavirus. We're on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, Spotify apple. I'm on Instagram at Alex j one and Tik Tok and Twitter as well. Again29:44  the podcast I'm just gonna say it again. So people really dude cinema podcast. I am child backward on Instagram. That's probably the only place you could contact me. You can try other places. You won't ever get this go to Instagram and I'm touring next year. Come on down and find the details soon. price the price on Instagram anyway I'm sorry.30:03  Everyone is touring that is for sure Louis you want to plug anything30:06  dead? Of course don't forget to buy tickets to all the irrational fi live shows next year of which I remember all of them.30:17  Big thank you to rode mics Australian ethical our Patreon supporters Rupert Degas Jacob round for those excellent sketches Joel Pittman, Joshua Nicholson, Joe tufts, Stu holding and the Megan Herbert the Great, the great illustrator Megan Herbert for joining us on Patreon. Please hit us up on patreon.com Ford slash irrational fear. That is it for the year that is it that it went down for rational fear. But there will be a very special best off show on New Year's Day as per usual as hosted by Ella Jones all the best sketches of the year all in a row. It always does very strange. Like it's it's a dichotomy that episode. It always gets like over 10,000 listens and I always lose three Patreon subs.It's like the most popular show yet the Patreon people like Alan Jones deletes you haven't listened to it yet. Yeah, you don't know me like Alan Smith doing Alan Jones.We're coming back next year. Dan, are we are we cancel? We're back. No we're not like31:15  we're here to cancel.31:18  We weren't on the board of cancellations.31:21  We will be back next week to come. We will be taking a about a three week break I think four week break and then we're back. First week of February Lewis so put that in your diary until next year. There's always something to be scared off by31:37  Christmas.Transcribed by https://otter.aiA Rational Fear on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ARationalFearSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. If Patreon isn't your thing, and Apple Subscriptions are too Appley — chip in with A-Cast here: https://plus.acast.com/s/a-rational-fear-1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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