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THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE...
The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry!
The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com
Ep. 107 Live from MAX – Reflections on Equity in the Field
Ep. 107 Live from MAX – Reflections on Equity in the Field
This week Kevin shares some great news and our hosts think they are hay-larious before diving into the serious topic of changes in equity in our field. Our guests at the Midwest Arts Xpo discuss slow shifts in programming and the hierarchical structures that impede progress, and we dig deep into just a few of the challenges with contracting.
Our guests this week are:
Sarah Haag, Artist
Wallace Thomas, Artist, Ball in the House
Clare Longendyke, Pianist
Karoline Myers, Director of Education, Des Moines Performing Arts
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).
31:2230/10/2024
Ep. 106 Paul Sage Cannon: Be Brave Enough to Believe in Yourself
Ep. 106 Paul Sage Cannon: Be Brave Enough to Believe in Yourself
This week our hosts get a bit philosophical before we listen to Danielle’s conversation with singer-songwriter Paul Sage Cannon from our time at the 2024 Western Arts Alliance Conference. Paul shares how his personal history informs his songwriting, how the weight of being a culture barer is both painful and joyful at the same time, and reminds us that music is a healing artform.
Paul Sage Cannon ( https://paulsagecannon.com/ ) is a singer-songwriter from the Waipuk Clan, a part of the Kumeyaay Nation. He is also a certified Native Healer and speaks on Native healing, philosophy, cultural education.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).
48:3123/10/2024
Ep. 105 Eric Olmscheid: Make Room to Dream
Ep. 105 Eric Olmscheid: Make Room to Dream
Whoohoo! This week the Quad Producers celebrate our two-year anniversary! We are so grateful for everyone’s support of this endeavor and for sticking with us week after week, listening and laughing with us. This week Katie speaks with Eric Olmscheid about his journey from farm kid to arts administrator, staying focused on what’s important, and keeping audiences curious.
Eric Olmscheid is the Executive Director of Wharton Center for Performing Arts on the campus of Michigan State University (https://www.whartoncenter.com) and the Board Vice President of Heartland Performing Arts, which administers the Midwest Arts Xpo (https://midwestartsxpo.org).
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).
55:1116/10/2024
Ep. 104 Live from MAX – The Cost of Touring and Merch Splits
Ep. 104 Live from MAX – The Cost of Touring and Merch Splits
We’re bringing you round 2 of our mini-interviews from the 2024 Midwest Arts Xpo featuring five more guests discussing the costs and challenges of touring today. Our hosts also have a spirited discussion about merch splits and the changing financial pressures of the industry (but Kevin is somehow the eternal optimist?) You can find the Pitchfork article referenced in the episode here: https://pitchfork.com/features/article/artist-merch-cuts-venues/.
Our guests this week are:
Helen Welch, Vocalist/Producer, Big Wow Productions
Pat Hazell, Chief Creative Officer, Sweetwood Creative
Patrick Donelly, Vice President of Theater Operations, Kauffman Center for the Performing Arts
Zak Mirz, Magician & Storyteller
Ella McAndrew, Director of Programming, The FIM
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).
38:1509/10/2024
Ep. 103 Live from MAX – The Art of Curation
Ep. 103 Live from MAX – The Art of Curation
The Pod Squad (including Bryan’s double, Bry-Bacca) was lucky enough to spend a week at the 2024 Midwest Arts Xpo and record interviews live once again in the expo hall! This week we bring you five mini-interviews and our own commentary on the topic of curation as we look forward to planning the 25-26 season.
Our guests this week are:
Gary Minyard, Chief Creative Officer, Dayton Live
Sarah Saltwick, Agent, Holden & Arts Associates
Joshua Kane, Artist/Producer, Wild Baboo Productions
Eric Matters, Director, Warren Performing Arts Center
Jeremy Davis, Artist, The Fabulous Equinox Orchestra
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42:0702/10/2024
Ep. 102 We ❤️ Conferences!
Ep. 102 We ❤️ Conferences!
The Pod Squad has finished the sprint that is the start of conference season and we’re pausing to reflect on our time at the 2024 Western Arts Alliance Conference and Midwest Arts Xpo. We discuss our differing experiences of conferencing over the course of our careers, what we love about evolving conference models and what is going well, and consider how conferences can shift to meet the current needs of our industry and look to the future. What is certain is that conference planning and execution is a big job, so we encourage you to serve on a committee or offer your expertise to help build our conference ecosystem! Josh will still be attending IEBA October 5 - 8, If you are attending, stop him and say hello.
To learn more about some of the conferences we discuss in this episode you can visit:
APAP: https://apap365.org/conference/
IEBA: https://www.ieba.org/conference-info-1
MAX: https://midwestartsxpo.org/
WAA: https://www.westarts.org/conference
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).
41:5825/09/2024
Ep. 101 Taína Lyons: Don’t Say No To Yourself
Ep. 101 Taína Lyons: Don’t Say No To Yourself
This week most of the crew as at the Midwest Arts Xpo, but we aren’t too busy to share conversations in the industry! This week our hosts talk about moments that were meant to be and Katie sits down with professional dancer Taina Lyons to talk about training as a young dancer, the life of a dancer, and advocating for yourself in a professional space.
Taina Lyons (@dancingrunner5 on Instagram) is a NYC based dancer currently dancing with the Mark Morris Dance Group.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).
49:0118/09/2024
Ep. 100 Peter Noone: Watch Every Act
Ep. 100 Peter Noone: Watch Every Act
It’s our ONE HUNDREDTH EPISODE and to celebrate Josh sits down with a living legend, Peter Noone! Peter shares stories of his incredible (and still going) career. Our host share their 100 favorite things and dream of booking the bills of the 60s.
Don’t forget you can see us at MAX in booth #512
Peter Noone (https://peternoone.com/) is a multi talented entertainer known best for Herman’s Hermits
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56:1311/09/2024
Ep. 99 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 2: Must Have Passion
Ep. 99 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 2: Must Have Passion
Welcome back to Part 2 of Bryan’s conversation with Colleen Jennings-Roggensack; while you can listen to this as a standalone episode, we would recommend starting with Part 1. This week Colleen talks about EDIA, creating the New Deal for Broadway (https://www.blacktheatreunited.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/BTU-New-Deal-For-Broadway.pdf), bringing children to the theatre, and more.
Colleen Jennings-Roggensack is the Executive Director of ASU Gammage (https://www.asugammage.com/). She is the Vice Chair of the Road for the Broadway League Board of Governors, the only Tony Awards voter in the state of Arizona, serves on the Black Theatre United Summit, and is a founding member of the Creative Capital Board and Senior Advisor to Women of Color in the Arts, and has been involved in numerous other national arts organizations.
54:5504/09/2024
Ep. 98 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 1: Broaden Your Horizon's to be a Success
Ep. 98 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 1: Broaden Your Horizon's to be a Success
This week our hosts are on the road recording in person at the Western Arts Alliance (WAA) Conference! It is also the first two-parter, because this week’s guest is a true rockstar in our industry, and a recent Tony Award Honoree. Colleen Jennings-Roggensack shares stories, insights, and lessons learned from her incredible career.
Colleen Jennings-Roggensack is the Executive Director of ASU Gammage (https://www.asugammage.com/). She is the Vice Chair of the Road for the Broadway League Board of Governors, the only Tony Awards voter in the state of Arizona, serves on the Black Theatre United Summit, and is a founding member of the Creative Capital Board and Senior Advisor to Women of Color in the Arts, and has been involved in numerous other national arts organizations.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).
58:2328/08/2024
Ep. 97 Gretchen Shope: Defying My Own Expectations
Ep. 97 Gretchen Shope: Defying My Own Expectations
Katie sits down with fellow Michigander and JIMMY AWARD WINNER, Gretchen Shope! Gretchen shares her passion for the performing arts, her gratefulness for her arts education, and gives us a peak backstage of the Jimmy Awards.
Don’t forget you can see our hosts at the Western Arts Alliance Conference next week! You can also see us at MAX in booth #512
Gretchen Shope is the 2024 Jimmy Award (https://www.jimmyawards.com/) winner for Best Performance by an Actress. You can see her award-winning performance here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF1Z5c9ZtJk
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51:0521/08/2024
Ep. 96 Randy Cohen: Make the Arts Unavoidable
Ep. 96 Randy Cohen: Make the Arts Unavoidable
This week Kevin sits down with his Arts Hero, Randy Cohen to talk about how the arts impact our lives with a heavy focus on the economic impact. Randy shares how he got started in the arts and helps our listeners to advocate for the arts. Our hosts share arts moments along with some exciting news, that we are coming to the Western Arts Alliance Conference!
Randy Cohen is the Vice President of Research at Americans for the Arts. Randy and his team led the Arts and Economic Prosperity 6 study. Local, State, and National data can be found here: https://aep6.americansforthearts.org/
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).
57:0114/08/2024
Ep. 95 Stephanie Mayers: Leave Space for What’s Possible
Ep. 95 Stephanie Mayers: Leave Space for What’s Possible
This week our hosts kick off the conversation talking about the great, boring, or weird PR they’ve gotten in the past, probably because they didn’t have Stephanie Mayers as their publicist. Stephanie talks with Danielle about being a part of the emergence and growth of the contemporary family music scene, running her own business, and gives us the 101 on what a publicist actually does.
Stephanie Mayers is the founder of Mayers Consulting (http://www.mayersconsulting.com/), an artist management, public relations, and booking firm.
Oh! And Katie has some exciting news! She left her job for another cool job and is also starting a cool business of her own – Michigan Maven Creative Associates! Learn more at https://www.michiganmaven.art/.
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53:4807/08/2024
Ep. 94 Heather Augustine: Bother Me
Ep. 94 Heather Augustine: Bother Me
Katie and Josh sit down with Heather Augustine, the head audio technician on the Tony Award-winning musical, The Outsiders. Heather gives insight into the audio side of the performing arts, shares her story of being a female in a largely male dominated role, how to take care of yourself on tour, and much more! Our hosts talk about women working backstage and how much (or how little) has changed, hiring bias, and what they would do if they won a Tony – spoilers, lots of ego :)
Heather Augustine is a Mixer for The Outsiders on Broadway (https://outsidersmusical.com/). She has spent her career on the audio side of theatre, and writes for SoundGirls (https://soundgirls.org/category/blog/heather-augustine/) a site established to provide women working in professional audio a community to come to for support, advice, empowerment, and inspiration.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).
56:2231/07/2024
Ep. 93 Eleanor and Ian Carney: Copy That, Thank You
Ep. 93 Eleanor and Ian Carney: Copy That, Thank You
The Pod Squad is back! Our hosts share what they have been up to for the past six weeks before Bryan shares his conversation with husband-and-wife team, Eleanor and Ian Carney. They share their journey to creating Lightwire Theater, working together as a couple, and the importance of learning other skills in the industry.
Eleanor and Ian Carney joint direct, manage, choreograph Lightwire Theater (https://www.lightwiretheater.com/). Lightwire Theater is a unique entertainment experience that utilizes light, technology, and music to tell captivating stories.
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Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).
59:5024/07/2024
Ep. 92: How to Mentor with Ally Haynes-Hamblin and Larry Kosson
Ep. 92: How to Mentor with Ally Haynes-Hamblin and Larry Kosson
As conference season fast approaches, the NBL team has another episode to help prepare you. Mentorship may not feel like a conference prep episode, but the NBL team would like to encourage more people to participate in conference mentorship whether as a mentor (for our experienced conference attendees) or a mentee (for those new to a conference). Kevin sits down with friends of the show and experienced mentors, Ally Haynes-Hamblin and Larry Kosson where they share tips and tricks for both potential mentors and mentees.
Ally Haynes-Hamblin is the Executive Director of the Charles W. Eisemann Center for Performing Arts in Richardson, Texas (https://www.eisemanncenter.com/). Ally is also a board member for the Association of Performing Arts Professionals (APAP).
Larry Kosson is the Founder and President of Kosson Talent (https://kossontalent.com)
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46:1717/07/2024
NBL UPDATE: How We Conference! Volume 2
NBL UPDATE: How We Conference! Volume 2
This year we wanted to give our listeners more time to plan for their conference season, so this one is coming at you earlier in the year. We have also included a representative from the Western Arts Alliance, Heartland Performing Arts, Inc. (Midwest Arts Xpo), and the Association of Performing Arts Professionals, to tell you why you should attend conferences and what you can look forward to.
PLEASE NOTE: While the team will be at MAX, the booth number mentioned is from 2023, at MAX 2024 find us at booth 512!
We are fast approaching conference season, and in the episode our hosts talk about their approach to conferencing. Choosing your conference, what to do before you attend, while you are there, and even following up. They even cover some tips on what to pack so you are prepared!
You can find highlights, advice, and links in a PDF on our website: https://nobusinesslike.com/
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01:03:4110/07/2024
NBL Rewind: Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid.
NBL Rewind: Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid.
Bryan takes us back to his and Kevin’s conversation with Michael Mushalla. Bryan reflects on how the summit created by Michael brought the hosts together, and how it encouraged him to show his true self and to think differently.
This week's episode is another special one! It highlights Michael Mushalla who introduced our hosts, and helped us all think differently about what comes next.
Michael Mushalla is the Owner and Founder of Double M Arts & Events, LLC
(https://double-m-arts.com/), as well as a wine consultant. Michael Mushalla along with Christine Cox created “The Summit” that brought the hosts of “There’s No Business Like...” together.
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37:3003/07/2024
NBL Rewind: Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a Checklist
NBL Rewind: Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a Checklist
Danielle takes us back to Sara Morgulis this week, because this is an episode she revisits to remind herself to keep going in this work, and because Sara gives tangible ways to normalize access, embed trauma-informed training, and lead with respect.
Danielle and Katie take time this week to talk with Sara Morgulis about theatre for young audiences. Sara talks about what TYA/USA does, the organization’s growth, her clear passion for accessibility in the arts, advocating for teaching artists, and so much more. Our hosts share the core tenets of their leadership philosophies and talk about the inviting role that accessibility plays in our industry.
Sara Morgulis is the Executive Director at Theatre for Young Audience USA – TYA/USA (https://www.tyausa.org/)
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56:1926/06/2024
NBL Rewind: Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success
NBL Rewind: Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success
This week, Josh takes us back to Danielle’s interview with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Josh chose this episode because it brought to light problematic areas in our industry.
On this episode, our hosts talk about safety leading into Danielle’s engaging conversation with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Dominic shares his creative process, including his perspective on how an audience perceives his projects after creation, and how becoming a parent changed the way he was making art.
Dominic and Danielle also discuss the act of “trauma mining” in the arts and specifically funding of minority art works. As a note, Dominic mentions a story about a singer at Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” Speech, that singer was Mahalia Jackson.
Dominic Moore-Dunson (https://www.dommooredun.com/) is a dancer, choreographer, podcaster, and all-around creative entrepreneur. Dominic’s podcast inCOPnegro can be found here: https://www.incopnegro.com/
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51:5219/06/2024
NBL Rewind: Bill Blagg: An Overnight Success
NBL Rewind: Bill Blagg: An Overnight Success
On this week’s NBL Rewind, host Kevin Maynard re-shares his conversation with Bill Blagg. Kevin chose this conversation for the great content on the business of show business and for all of the laughs. He believes this episode is a great reminder of all the friendships we build in this industry.
This week Kevin sits down with his friend and magician, Bill Blagg. With Bill’s help, Kevin shares some of the lingo from the magic world with our fellow hosts. Bill shares his lifelong journey to where he is now, the importance of hard work, how seeing his first Broadway show changed everything, and really highlights the business of show business. Bill also shares life on the road as a husband and a father.
Bill Blagg is a magician, public speaker, entrepreneur, and more. For more information and to see Bill Blagg perform visit https://billblagg.com/
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59:5212/06/2024
NBL Rewind: Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition
NBL Rewind: Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition
On this week's NBL Rewind, host Katie Miller shares her conversation with Sarah McCarthy. Katie chose this conversation because it inspired her and asks you to listen and reflect on Sarah’s advice of trusting your intuition, taking chances, and following what feels right to you.
On this episode, Katie sits down with Sarah McCarthy to talk about theatre for young audiences, new projects, and juggling life with a full workload. Our hosts reminisce about their questionable music choices as young children and acknowledge that you can love your job and still need time for yourself.
Sarah McCarthy is the Agency Owner and Creative Producer at Dandelion Artists (https://www.dandelionartists.com/) representing the best in family music with artists like The Okee Dokee Brothers, Jazzy Ash, Justin Roberts, and more.
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46:5405/06/2024
Ep. 85 Pod Squad: Time for Mental Health
Ep. 85 Pod Squad: Time for Mental Health
This week’s episode is short, but very honest. The Pod Squad is opening up about their mental health and taking some time off. Don’t worry though! We are re-releasing some episodes that made us laugh and made us think. You can listen to those, or get caught up on our extensive back catalogue.
Take care friends! We will be back with new episodes on mid-July.
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21:5329/05/2024
Ep. 84 Jorge Casco: From Handcuffs to Cufflinks
Ep. 84 Jorge Casco: From Handcuffs to Cufflinks
This week Kevin plays a game of Gen-Z Slang with his fellow hosts before he shares his in-depth conversation with Jorge Casco. Jorge shares his turbulent start in the arts, how the arts can save lives, the power of an individual, and reminds us that we are all loved.
Jorge Casco is the Executive Director of FLY Dance Company (https://www.flydancecompany.com/)
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57:5021/05/2024
Ep. 83 Lauren Jelencovich: Stay Present and Be Yourself
Ep. 83 Lauren Jelencovich: Stay Present and Be Yourself
Bryan sits down with Lauren Jelencovich to talk about her impressive career. Lauren shares her journey from winning Star Search to attending the Manhattan School of Music to touring with Yanni as his featured vocalist for 13 years. Our hosts share phone calls that changed their lives and the importance of being present and saying yes.
Lauren Jelencovich (https://www.laurenjelencovich.com/) is a touring classical crossover artist.
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42:0915/05/2024
Ep. 82 David Alpert: Find the Solution
Ep. 82 David Alpert: Find the Solution
Katie sits down with a former fellow Michigander, David Alpert, to talk all things Broadway. David shares his journey from wanting to be a theatre director in 5th grade to directing on Broadway. Katie and David talk about the impact of their local theatre scene growing up, the different roles on a Broadway directing team, and the importance of “showing up.”
David Alpert is a New York City-based theatre director, adjunct faculty at NYU, and the creator and host of the “E-Ticket to Broadway” podcast (https://www.eticketpodcast.com/)
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58:5008/05/2024
Ep. 81 Mark Morris and Nancy Umanoff: Dance. Music. Community.
Ep. 81 Mark Morris and Nancy Umanoff: Dance. Music. Community.
Our hosts spend this week thinking about what they thought they would be when they grew up. Josh and Kevin share their conversation with Mark Morris, who the New York Times called, “the most successful and influential choreographer alive, and indisputably the most musical” and Nancy Umanoff, the masterful executive director whose work creates the space for Mark Morris and the Mark Morris Dance Group to create art. They share their 38-year journey together, the creation of the Mark Morris Dance Center, and the challenges of the evolving funding landscape in the arts.
Mark Morris is the Artistic Director of the Mark Morris Dance Group. Nancy Umanoff is the Executive Director of the Mark Morris Dance Group (https://markmorrisdancegroup.org/)
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01:05:1701/05/2024
Ep. 80 Merrill Miller: Be a Sponge
Ep. 80 Merrill Miller: Be a Sponge
This week we start with video games that taught us something before Bryan and Josh sit down with fellow presenter, Merrill Miller. Merrill shares his journey from booking his high school band gigs to booking bands at the North Shore Center. He talks about the challenges of booking a venue so close to Chicago, what a performing arts center can be, the importance of hospitality for performers, and a little about his hobby outside of the industry.
Merrill Miller is the Manager of Concerts/Marketing Assistant at the North Shore Center for the Performing Arts (https://northshorecenter.org/) in Skokie, Illinois.
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46:4224/04/2024
Ep. 79 Jeeyoon Kim: A Degree Doesn’t Guarantee Anything
Ep. 79 Jeeyoon Kim: A Degree Doesn’t Guarantee Anything
Our hosts start this week’s episode talking about changing traditions. Bryan shares his conversation with award-winning performer, Jeeyoon Kim. Jeeyoon shares how and why she is challenging the traditions of classical music, her unique start in Korea with playing the piano, and the challenges of being a classical music performer after university.
Jeeyoon Kim is a classical pianist, educator, author (https://www.jeeyoonkim.com/product-page/whenever-you-re-ready-autographed-copy) and a podcaster (https://www.jeeyoonkim.com/podcast) with a mission to create a bridge between her as a performer and her audience to better share classical music.
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58:2917/04/2024
Ep. 78 Sarah Saltwick: Bring Your Whole Self
Ep. 78 Sarah Saltwick: Bring Your Whole Self
This week, Danielle and Katie share their conversation with the powerhouse that is Sarah Saltwick. They dig into taking ownership of Holden & Arts, managing the agency with three leaders, and what running an agency entails. Sarah also shares how she got started in the industry, how she continues to get involved and learn more, and attempting to balance business, life, and her artistic endeavors. Our hosts this week take a look back in their lives to what seemed like simpler times.
Sarah Saltwick is a Co-Director of Holden & Arts Associates (https://www.holdenarts.org/) and handles Sales & Artistic Relations. She is also a playwright and avid supporter of the industry as a whole through various volunteer roles.
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58:0810/04/2024
Ep. 77 John Ernesto: Take Care of the Artist, Take Care of the Fans
Ep. 77 John Ernesto: Take Care of the Artist, Take Care of the Fans
To start this episode our hosts discuss the artist they presented that created that surreal moment of “I can’t believe this is happening”. Bryan and John discuss the origin of the Berks Jazz Fest and its subsequent development. His theory on taking care of the artist and the fans and the rest will take care of itself. We learn about how the Jazz Fest developed through community partnerships and everyone being on board.
John is retiring as general manager and artistic director of The Berks Jazz Fest, a festival featuring over 100 performances in 10 days. Find more information at https://www.berksjazzfest.com
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45:1303/04/2024
Ep. 76 Jenny Sirota and Didi Perez: Be Confident, Stay Educated, and Stay Flexible
Ep. 76 Jenny Sirota and Didi Perez: Be Confident, Stay Educated, and Stay Flexible
Our hosts share their choices for “live on stage” adaptations before Josh shares his conversation with Jenny and Didi. They share their incredible journey in starting RoadCo in collaboration with Sony Music Entertainment. This honest conversation shares the ins and outs of this relationship, what it takes to put a show on the road, and how relationships with presenters help influence new touring shows.
Didi Perez and Jenny Sirota are both Principal Agents for RoadCo Entertainment (https://www.roadcoentertainment.com/)
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49:0327/03/2024
Ep. 75 Joshua Heim: Embed Art in Your Community
Ep. 75 Joshua Heim: Embed Art in Your Community
This week Katie and Kevin sit down with Joshua Heim to talk equity, Western Arts Alliance, the state of the arts and more. Josh shares his journey in the arts, Hula as a lifestyle, working with and for constituents, and the role of the arts in communities. Our hosts this week share awkward meetings and interesting meeting locations.
Joshua Heim is the Executive Director of Western Arts Alliance (https://www.westarts.org/)
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54:0920/03/2024
Ep. 74 Ally Haynes-Hamblin: Trust Yourself and Go with the Flow
Ep. 74 Ally Haynes-Hamblin: Trust Yourself and Go with the Flow
Our hosts share just some of the many influential women in their lives. Danielle sits down with another influential woman in our lives, Ally Haynes-Hamblin. Ally shares her lineage in the arts, the challenging role of being a "fixer,” her leadership style and philosophy, and how to get involved in a community.
Ally Haynes-Hamblin is the Executive Director of the Charles W. Eisemann Center for Performing Arts in Richardson, Texas (https://www.eisemanncenter.com/). Ally is also a board member for the Association of Performing Arts Professionals (APAP).
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57:0813/03/2024
Ep. 73 Jim Lenz: Transparency Leads to Trust
Ep. 73 Jim Lenz: Transparency Leads to Trust
Our hosts share their dreams on what they would do with an abandoned mall before our guest Jim Lenz joins Josh for a conversation. Jim shares his love for live music, booking artists into venues in high school, importance of artists taking control of their marketing, and changes in PAC rock shows over the years.
Jim Lenz is with TKO Booking Agency (https://tkoco.com/).
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43:2506/03/2024
Ep. 72 David Rowell: Inspiring the Next Generation
Ep. 72 David Rowell: Inspiring the Next Generation
Our hosts talk about times they said, “never again,” and then totally did again. This week Bryan sits down with David Rowell, an amazing educator and mentor in the industry. David shares his introduction to the arts, clown ministry, his incredible career, opening performance venues, and teaching the future of the industry. He is joined by two of his students, Ashanique Riche and Hannah Pogemiller, who share their unique view of the industry and an inside look at the program at Dean College.
David Rowell is the Associate Professor and Program Coordinator of Arts and Entertainment Management at Dean College in Franklin, Massachusetts (https://www.dean.edu/academics/majors-degrees/arts-and-entertainment-management/). Ashanique Riche and Hannah Pogemiller are students in the Arts and Entertainment Management Program.
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49:3228/02/2024
Ep. 71 The Okee Dokee Brothers: Being Connected to Families is an Honor
Ep. 71 The Okee Dokee Brothers: Being Connected to Families is an Honor
Before we kick-off this week’s interview the Pod Squad gives their opinion on camping, and the team congrats Josh on his appointment to the board of NAPAMA (https://www.napama.org/). The Okee Dokee Brothers join the podcast to be interviewed by their number one grownup fan, Katie Miller! They share how they started the group, their adventure albums, engaging with their fans to market their shows, turning down a GRAMMY nomination, and more.
Joe Mailander and Justin Lansing make up The GRAMMY Award winning group, The Okee Dokee Brothers (https://www.okeedokee.org/). Joe and Justin record and perform family music with a goal to inspire children and their parents to step outside and get creative.
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01:00:4421/02/2024
Ep. 70 Sarah Rogers: The Scariest Things Are the Most Rewarding
Ep. 70 Sarah Rogers: The Scariest Things Are the Most Rewarding
Our hosts talk about big professional risks and this week Kevin shares his conversation with Sarah Rogers. Sarah shares her early introduction to the arts, her introduction to being an agent, the challenges of touring major dance pieces and more. Sarah also shares the importance of mentorship and the importance of funding mentorship programs. Our host continue the conversation about dance, international work, and green touring.
Sarah Rogers is an agent and producer representing Dana Gingras, Animals of Distinction (https://animalsofdistinction.org/)
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49:4614/02/2024
Ep. 69 Dan Talmi: The Art of Rebranding
Ep. 69 Dan Talmi: The Art of Rebranding
Our hosts talk about “pandemic pivots,” before Josh’s engaging conversation with Dan Talmi. Dan Talmi shares his almost reluctant start in the family business, overseeing an impressive rebrand amid global conflict, the evolution of marketing, merchandising as an experience, and so much more. Our hosts continue the conversation and discuss the concept of the “house merch cut.”
Dan Talmi is a Producing Director at Talmi Entertainment, the company behind the holiday classic, Nutcracker! Magical Christmas Ballet (https://nutcracker.com/)
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57:5807/02/2024
Ep. 68 Jared Freiburg: Roll With the Punches and Treat People With Respect
Ep. 68 Jared Freiburg: Roll With the Punches and Treat People With Respect
The Pod Squad talks who they would play in a biopic, with varying levels of seriousness. This week Katie talks with Jared Freiburg, who “can play like a mother”, about his incredible and short (but still unfolding) career. Jared shares how he started working in the touring industry, life as a cruise ship performer, life on the road, starting his own band, the challenges of being a performer, and so much more. Jared also shares some tangible takeaways for new artists who want to get started touring.
Jared Freiburg (https://jfreiburg.com/) is a musician, performer, and front man of Jared Freiburg and The Vagabonds. Jared toured as Jerry Lee Lewis in Million Dollar Quartet and helped create the role of Jerry Lee Lewis in Million Dollar Quartet Christmas.
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51:2131/01/2024
Ep. 67 Dena Blizzard: Learn Your Craft, Be Funny
Ep. 67 Dena Blizzard: Learn Your Craft, Be Funny
Our hosts share embarrassing moments before Bryan and Josh share their conversation with comedian Dena Blizzard. Dena tells her story of being a comic, creating an off-Broadway show, and eventually creating a multi-media company, starting with her unique approach to marketing. Dena shares funny stories and poignant moments in her career.
Dena Blizzard is a comedian, mother of three and creator of “One Funny Mother”, a multi-media company creating content (https://www.onefunnymother.com/), products and live comedy shows about “Wine, Women and Laughter”.
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59:5224/01/2024
Ep. 66 Pam Komar: Mindful Service
Ep. 66 Pam Komar: Mindful Service
This week Katie shares her conversation with friend of the podcast Pam Komar of the Pittsburgh Cultural Trust. They discuss the power of embracing change, how to focus on wellness and taking care of yourself, and how particular programming areas are avenues to connecting with disengaged audiences. Pam also shares the history of the Cultural Trust and the impact it continues to have on Pittsburgh. Our hosts share how they unplug and take time for themselves, and we discover that Kevin is actually from the Jersey Shore.
Pam Komar is the Director of Programming at The Pittsburgh Cultural Trust (https://trustarts.org/).
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54:4417/01/2024
Ep. 65 Wone Vang: Never Give Up on Your Stupid Stupid Dreams
Ep. 65 Wone Vang: Never Give Up on Your Stupid Stupid Dreams
Kevin tries out his old-timey radio voice before sitting down with Wone Vang. Wone shares the struggle of being a full-time artist and full-time employee, the Guaranteed Income Program she is managing for Springboard for the Arts, and the importance of pay equity. Our hosts talk about their life in cross stich, what individuals can do to increase pay equity, and how we can learn more on these topics.
Wone Vang is an artist (https://3drdcrafts.com/) and the Economic Opportunity Director at Springboard for the Arts (https://springboardforthearts.org/).
Resources mentioned in this episode:
The Art of Economic Justice: https://springboardforthearts.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/GI_Impact_Report_SBftA_2023.pdf
Stefanie O’Connell Rodriguez: https://tooambitious.com/
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32:1910/01/2024
Ep. 64 Micah Christian: A Process Unfolding
Ep. 64 Micah Christian: A Process Unfolding
This week Bryan sits down with the lead vocalist of Sons of Serendip, Micah Christian. Micah opens up about his journey into creating music, learning to not compare himself to others, life on the road, and more. Meanwhile, our hosts have a rousing conversation about ringtones and ring backs, Bryan effectively shuts down criticism, and realize we all have learning to do on how the music charts work.
Micah Christian is an artist passionate about storytelling, composing, and performing music that supports, enhances, and creates meaningful moments. He is the co-founder and lead vocalist of America's Got Talent Finalist, Sons of Serendip (https://www.sonsofserendip.com/). Micah is also on the board of NAPAMA.
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53:2403/01/2024
Ep. 63 It’s a New Years’ Spectacular! … with Guests!
Ep. 63 It’s a New Years’ Spectacular! … with Guests!
The holiday season is busy and filled with surprises just like this episode! Three guests + 5 hosts = 1 fun filled episode! We’d like to thank our guests Christine Cox, Tracie Lawie, and Barron Ryan for closing out the year with us with some games and some resolutions. Thank you for listening this past year!
Christine Cox – Ep. 16: is the Owner and Founder of C Squared Entertainment (https://www.csquaredentertainment.com/) and the Executive Producer of the Off Broadway family-friendly magic show, The Amazing Max (http://theamazingmaxlive.com/).
Tracie Lawie – Ep. 29: is the Director of the Miller Auditorium (https://www.millerauditorium.com/).
Barron Ryan – Ep. 60: (https://www.barronryan.com/) is a composer, performer, author, and creator
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50:2927/12/2023
Ep. 62 Sara Barasch: It Doesn’t Have to be Perfect
Ep. 62 Sara Barasch: It Doesn’t Have to be Perfect
Katie connects with friend of the pod, Sara Barasch. Katie and Sara dive into industry hot topics including block booking, the booking cycle, how to connect with venues/buyers, and how a childhood of dance and musical theatre led her to becoming an agent. Our hosts talk about pivotal show moments in their lives, the importance of relationship building with agents you are working with, and more.
Sara Barasch is the Senior Vice President, Booking Manager at IMG Artists (https://imgartists.com/)
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56:2520/12/2023
Ep. 61 Devin and Lolita Walker: Know Your Worth
Ep. 61 Devin and Lolita Walker: Know Your Worth
This week our hosts kick off the conversation discussing being in business with family. This week Danielle sits down with the powerhouse couple Devin and Lolita Walker. Danielle, Devin, and Lolita talk in-depth about being business owners, the lives of teaching artists, and the need for advocacy around working conditions and fair pay for teaching artists. They also discuss the importance of asking for help, transferrable skills, and taking time off to rest.
Devin and Lolita Walker are the co-owners of The Uncle Devin Show, a live musical experience for children (https://theuncledevinshow.com) and WeeMusic Radio (https://www.weenationradio.com), a streaming radio station curated for kids and families.
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52:1013/12/2023
Ep. 60 Barron Ryan: The Evidence of Beauty
Ep. 60 Barron Ryan: The Evidence of Beauty
This week our hosts guide you in creating your own mission statement, and share a bit about their own. Kevin sits down with the effortlessly cool Barron Ryan, to talk about how he got started, his creative process, being named one of Smithsonian's Top Innovators to watch in 2021, and his new book, Honey, If It Wasn’t for You. You can get a copy of his book at https://www.book.barronryan.com/
Barron Ryan (https://www.barronryan.com/) is a composer, performer, author, and creator.
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01:02:1406/12/2023
Ep 59 Kevin Maynard: People Come First
Ep 59 Kevin Maynard: People Come First
Bryan and Josh host our final Interpodsquad interview with the incomparable Kevin Maynard. We learn about Kevin’s surprising (but unsurprisingly wholesome) first foray into live performance, how his business and accounting background gave him a firm foundation as an arts leader, and Kevin’s philosophies around taking on challenges and supporting his staff. The Mystery of the Mustache is also revealed! And Danielle, per usual, continues to torture Kevin.
Kevin L. Maynard is the Executive Director of Quad City Arts, splitting the border between Iowa and Illinois (www.quadcityarts.com). He is also an avid runner, community theater actor, lover of spreadsheets, and 1/5 of the There’s No Business Like podcast team.
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50:0829/11/2023
Ep. 58 Pumpkin Pie Episode: The Lightning Rounds at MAX
Ep. 58 Pumpkin Pie Episode: The Lightning Rounds at MAX
It’s Pumpkin Pie Week! This week the “Quad” Producers are kicking back and taking it easy with family and friends and what better to release than our final episode from our time with all our friends at the Midwest Arts Expo. Thank you to everyone who sat down with us in our booth. As an added bonus, we compiled a playlist with the answers to the question, “What is your favorite Broadway song?”
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6XHEZzfCHTIXR6de0DKk7q?si=6cfb6b749c314fca
In this episode:
Robert Baird, Jackie Banks-Mahlum, Lindsay Bauer, Kara Bechstein, Kiersten Birondo, Krista Bradley, Miles Brooks, Reba Cafarelli, Lisa Conlon, Tiana Conway, Christine Cox, Jeremy Davis, Genevieve DeMerchant, Jared Duymovic, Ally Hayes-Hamblin, Audrey Johnson, Clay Johnson, Spring Karlo, Jacob Kinderman, Chad Lindsay, David Mitchell, Michela Musolino, Fiona Nagle, Siusan O’Rourke, Rocky Peter, Leslie Rodriguez, Jessica Rosenblatt, Willie Santiago, Kevin Spencer, Steve Thithavong, Chris Vallillo, and David Wannen.
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45:2822/11/2023