Margo is joined by art agency owner and founder, Julie Ager. Julie started her career with twelve years of consulting on consumer product buying behavior with major mass merchandisers, department stores and other manufacturers and retailers throughout the United States, as well as Mexico and South Africa. From there she started the ADG agency in 1997 in partnership with a few close artist friends. Julie knows that developing great products requires more than great art and design; it requires teamwork, collaboration and a comprehensive understanding of today’s market which is why she built ADG on the foundation of partnership, creativity, integrity, and longevity.   Margo and Julie discuss: Her path from consultant to agency founder What she looks for in artists she represents What it’s like to run a small, sustainable art agency Navigating the customer journey as an artist and understanding the different roles required Manufacturing relationships How to move the consumer along and knowing who you’re selling to The ecosystem of agent-artist-product manager relationships within her own business What a product manager thinks about when trying to create a product that their customers will buy And more   Connect with Julie: https://artsdg.com/   Connect with Margo: www.windowsillchats.com www.instagram.com/windowsillchats www.patreon.com/inthewindowsill