E9: Sam Lessin and Seth Rosenberg Debate: Will AI Favor Incumbents or Start-Ups?
Sam Lessin, General Partner at Slow Ventures, and Seth Rosenberg, General Partner at Greylock, debate what the effects of AI on incumbents and the next wave of AI-first products will look like. If you’re looking to improve your sourcing, tracking, and due diligence, check out: https://synaptic.com/turpentine
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LINKS:
Seth's essay on Product-Led AI: https://greylock.com/greymatter/seth-rosenberg-product-led-ai/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Episode preview
(00:47) Seth's blog post on opportunities in AI
(04:46) Sam's reaction to Seth's product-led AI thesis
(9:58) Identifying outliers
(12:29) What happening during the cloud, mobile, and AI tech waves
(14:51) Sponsor: Synaptic
(15:52) Why incumbents are incredibly well-positioned to add AI tools
(19:08) The mobile tech wave and why incumbents won
(21:59) The Uber of the AI era
(26:11) New markets unlocked with AI
(28:26) Defensibility of AI startups
(32:28) Thoughts on Midjourney and Character AI
(34:01) Closing remarks
(37:26) On copilots
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