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The Truth & Justice Podcast is listener driven show, devoted to the pursuit of truth and justice. Host, Bob Ruff, investigates potential wrongful conviction and cold cases using a unique crowdsourcing approach. Bob invites listeners to participate in the investigations, as he breaks down a new case in each season in real time. Truth & Justice season 15 follows and investigates the potential wrongful conviction of Jodi (Joseph) Hill, and the divide between the people of Benton Harbor Michigan and the police force tasked with serving and protecting them.
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S12 Ep15: S12:E15 Follow-Up

S12 Ep15: S12:E15 Follow-Up

Today Bob, Janet and Zaq chat about the plethora of information we heard in Javier's full interview. They also share a West Memphis Three update.  Want to listen to every episode ad-free? Join our Patreon!
01:23:5208/07/2022
S12 Ep15: Javier's Full Interview

S12 Ep15: Javier's Full Interview

Today we hear Javier's full interview. Grab a pen and paper, because this one is chock-full of information.  Want to listen ad-free? Join our Patreon!
01:32:3603/07/2022
S12 Ep14: S12:E14 Follow-Up

S12 Ep14: S12:E14 Follow-Up

Today you'll hear Bob, Zaq & Janet talk more about the WM3 ruling, as well as all the details of this past week's episode. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:01:3701/07/2022
S5 Ep44: WM3 Ruling Explained

S5 Ep44: WM3 Ruling Explained

Bob breaks down the events of last week. The way Supporters were treated at the hearing, the ruling and the next steps in our fight for the truth.
51:3228/06/2022
S12 Ep14: An Interview with Javier

S12 Ep14: An Interview with Javier

This week, we listen to two interviews with Javier to see what additional info we can gather. What are your thoughts? Be sure to tell us on the Truth & Justice Instagram page! Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
38:3026/06/2022
S12 Ep13: S12:E13 Follow-Up

S12 Ep13: S12:E13 Follow-Up

In a rare, night-time recording of the Friday Follow-Up, Bob & Zap join Janet as they have a lively discussion about the phone pings and cell phone tower data. Listen ad-free by joining Patreon!
57:4224/06/2022
S12 Ep13: Pings

S12 Ep13: Pings

Last week, Bob gave us a thorough analysis of the cell phone records of everyone involved in the case, but this week, we go even further down the habit hole. Don't be surprised if you have some lightbulb moments during this episode. Be sure to post your questions, comments, and epiphanies on our social media! Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
37:4519/06/2022
S12 Ep12: S12:E12 Follow-Up

S12 Ep12: S12:E12 Follow-Up

Janet is back from Europe and joins Bob and Zap to discuss the phone records. The online chat is bursting with listener questions and comment that you won't want to miss!
01:01:3517/06/2022
S12: Bonus:  Conversation w/ Cell Phone Expert

S12: Bonus: Conversation w/ Cell Phone Expert

This bonus episode is raw and unedited. In this week's main episode Bob asked listeners if they would like to hear the conversation he had with Cell Expert, Ian Patterson. A lot of listeners wanted to hear it, so here it is. Please forgive the roughness of the sound quality. This is for reference purposes and is not edited as a normal episode.
47:0314/06/2022
S12 Ep12: A Game of Telephone

S12 Ep12: A Game of Telephone

It's time to review the cell phone records of the key players involved in this case. Grab a pen and a note pad, put on your best listening ears...because we've A LOT of things to talk about. Want to support the show AND get all episodes AD-FREE? Join our PATREON!
01:31:5012/06/2022
S12 Ep11: S12:E11 Follow-Up

S12 Ep11: S12:E11 Follow-Up

Janet joins Bob and Zaq from across the pond to chat about Bob's final episode with Jim Clemente. They also clear up a few questions and concerns from listeners. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:02:1910/06/2022
S12 Ep11: Jim Clemente Part 3

S12 Ep11: Jim Clemente Part 3

Today's the day you've been waiting for... the third and final installment of Bob's chat with former FBI profiler, Jim Clemente. Will they finally see eye to eye on who the real target was and the killer's level of criminal sophistication? Or will they agree to disagree? Want to hear this episode ad-free, as well as get lots of perks and bonus content? Join our Patreon!
57:0605/06/2022
S12 Ep10: S12:E10 Follow-Up

S12 Ep10: S12:E10 Follow-Up

Bob and Zaq are joined by Janet as she's "on assignment" in the UK. The crew discusses Bob's previous episode with Jim Clemente, fielding some listener comments and reactions. What will the Jim Clemente part 3 finale bring? Tune in on Sunday to find out! Last day for buying your Test The F**cking Evidence t-shirts is today! GET IT NOW! Want all your episodes ad-free, with exclusive bonus content? Join our Patreon!
01:01:2503/06/2022
S12 Ep10: Jim Clemente Part 2

S12 Ep10: Jim Clemente Part 2

Bob continues his discussion with former FBI profiler, Jim Clemente. One of them sees a level of criminal sophistication in the Pinyon Pines murders. The other thinks the killers were amateurs who botched the job. Now, what do YOU think? Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
46:0229/05/2022
S12 Ep9: S12:E9 Follow-Up

S12 Ep9: S12:E9 Follow-Up

Bob, Janet, and Zaq discuss the Jim Clemente episodes so far, and the gang receives some ground-breaking insights from our listeners. Want to listen to every episode, ad-free, and get access to exclusive content? Join our Patreon!
01:07:2527/05/2022
S12 Ep9: Jim Clemente Part 1

S12 Ep9: Jim Clemente Part 1

Today, Bob is joined by former FBI profiler, Jim Clemente. They discuss the details of the case in order to narrow down who the target may have been.  Want to listen ad-free? Become a Patron!
01:03:4422/05/2022
S12 Ep8: The Autopsies

S12 Ep8: The Autopsies

In this episode, Bob goes through the autopsy reports, which are...pretty short, for lack of a better word. However, they do give us a slightly better idea of the damage sustained to the bodies in the fire.  As always, you can go to our website, truthjusticepod.com, for photos, documents, and more info.  Want to support the show? Join our Patreon!
28:2115/05/2022
S12 Ep7: S12:E7 Follow-Up

S12 Ep7: S12:E7 Follow-Up

Bob, Janet and Zaq discuss the fires more in-depth. They contemplate where they may have started, and the possible order of events. And as always, they take some great listener questions. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
53:3313/05/2022
S12 Ep7: The Fires

S12 Ep7: The Fires

In today's episode, Bob uses his experience as a firefighter to break down all the details of the fatal Pinyon Pines fire. Where did the fires start? What was the point of origin? Listen now to find out the answers to your questions. Want access to exclusive, behind-the-scenes content on the Pinyon Pines case and more? Join our Patreon!
45:5608/05/2022
JonBenét Ramsey Bonus Follow-Up

JonBenét Ramsey Bonus Follow-Up

Today's episode is a follow-up to the bonus JonBenét Ramsey live show you heard with Bob, The Captain, and Kelli.  Bob, Janet, and Zaq discuss details of the JonBenét Ramsey case, CrimeCon highlights, and they even take a few Pinyon Pines questions.  Ready to join the Truth and Justice Army? Join our Patreon for exclusive content!
01:00:0806/05/2022
Bob & The Captain Debate JonBenét Ramsey Case

Bob & The Captain Debate JonBenét Ramsey Case

Welcome to the live show, from Grand Rapids, MI! Bob, The Captain, and Kelli discuss one of the most-hotly debated cases in America. Want the full show? Join our Patreon for exclusive access! Visit today's Sponsors: Better Help, June's Journey, Topic, and The Jordan Harbinger Show!
44:1901/05/2022
S12 Ep6: S12:E6 Follow-Up

S12 Ep6: S12:E6 Follow-Up

Bob, Zaq and Janet go over some more details of the crime scene, and some of this week's listener questions prove that the Truth & Justice Army is brilliant!  Visit our website at: truthandjusticepod.com Follow our new Instagram page @truthjusticepod Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:14:3729/04/2022
S12 Ep6: The Crime Scene

S12 Ep6: The Crime Scene

Starting with the 911 call, Bob discusses the timeline of the night and the details of the crime scene. Who was the anonymous stranger in the truck that firefighters saw while en route to the house? Why did investigators miss so many pieces of potentially crucial evidence? Listen now, as Bob breaks down even more details of this very complicated case. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
44:4924/04/2022
S12 Ep5: S12:E5 Follow-Up

S12 Ep5: S12:E5 Follow-Up

Bob and Zaq join Janet for a YouTube Live to discuss some questions that linger about the case. What's the story with the money? Who was Becky living with her Senior year? Listen now to hear their thoughts.  Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
53:5822/04/2022
S12 Ep5: A Broader Look

S12 Ep5: A Broader Look

Bob takes a closer look into the victimology of Jon, Vicki and Becky. We hear never before heard interviews with Jon's co-workers, and their neighbors. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
52:4117/04/2022
S12 Ep4: S12:E4 Follow-Up

S12 Ep4: S12:E4 Follow-Up

Back from "assignment", Bob and Zaq join Janet for a YouTube Live session to answer listener questions. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
51:3115/04/2022
S12 Ep4: The Interview

S12 Ep4: The Interview

Bob is joined by two Forensic Psychologists, Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott, from the LA Not So Confidential podcast. The Docs have been kind enough to spend a week analyzing Robert Pape’s interview, and they’re here today to break down their thoughts. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:13:1310/04/2022
S12 Ep3: S12:E3 Follow-Up

S12 Ep3: S12:E3 Follow-Up

Bob and co-hosts take on social media questions while recording on YouTube Live.   Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:06:0301/04/2022
S12 Ep3: The Hike

S12 Ep3: The Hike

 As we continue to try to piece together Becky’s movements on the day of the murders, Bob shares two very important police interviews. First we hear from the source of the hiking trip info, Javier Garcia, Jr. Then we hear from Becky’s ex-boyfriend Robert, as he speaks to police about his plans with Becky. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
58:0427/03/2022
S12 Ep2: S12:E2 Follow-Up

S12 Ep2: S12:E2 Follow-Up

Bob, Zaq and Janet discuss listener questions from both social media and Youtube Live. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
52:0225/03/2022
S12 Ep2: Becky’s Day

S12 Ep2: Becky’s Day

Bob discusses the victimology of Vickie, Jon and Becky. We hear original police interviews that help to piece together Becky’s movements on the day of the murders. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
53:4120/03/2022
S12: S12:E1 Follow-Up

S12: S12:E1 Follow-Up

Bob, Zaq and Janet discuss listener questions over Youtube Live for the first Follow-Up in Season 12. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:00:5918/03/2022
S12 Ep1: Up The Hill

S12 Ep1: Up The Hill

In this Season 12 Premiere episode, Bob begins to the lay out the very basics of what is sure to be a complex case. On Sunday September 17, 2006, the small unincorporated community of Pinyon Pines, CA was rocked by one of the most horrific and baffling crimes that we’ve ever investigated on this podcast. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
35:5913/03/2022
Reporting on WM3

Reporting on WM3

Bob interviews Jonesboro Reporter, George Jared. George has been reporting on the WM3 case since 2008. He sat through the entire Rule 37 hearing, and has the inside scoop on the latest developments. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
47:3611/03/2022
A Strong Response

A Strong Response

Bob breaks down the latest filing in the WM3 case, followed by fielding questions from a Facebook Live Q&A. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
52:2906/03/2022
Andrew Collins Follow-Up

Andrew Collins Follow-Up

Bob and Zaq welcome Janet Varney onto the show in her first Follow-Up as a permanent co-host. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
56:3804/03/2022
Andrew Collins - A Crooked Cop

Andrew Collins - A Crooked Cop

Andrew Collins speaks with Bob about the slippery slope that led him down the path of a corrupt police officer. He tells the story of how he framed an innocent man, and then later traded places with him in prison. His shocking story contains valuable lessons about how and why wrongful convictions happen. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:09:4127/02/2022
Jesse Crossen Follow-Up

Jesse Crossen Follow-Up

The guys take on listener questions for Mike's last episode behind the microphone. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
49:0725/02/2022
Jesse Crosson on Prison Reform

Jesse Crosson on Prison Reform

Bob interviews Jesse Crosson. At 18 years old Jesse pled guilty to robbery and unlawful wounding, which carried a max sentence of 16 years in prison. The Judge however decided to make an example of Jesse, and sentenced him to twice the max penalty, 32 years. Jesse turned his life around in prison. He worked hard to earn a Bachelors degree, and committed his time to helping educate other prisoners. He even started a podcast called "Pre-Zen: Lessons from Lockup" while incarcerated. This past August, he was granted clemency from Governor Ralph Northam. He's now dedicated his life to prison reform, using his experiences from the inside to guide his quest. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
41:0020/02/2022
Kelsi German Follow-Up w/ Janet Varney

Kelsi German Follow-Up w/ Janet Varney

Mike is out on assignment, so Zaq and Bob are joined by the amazing Janet Varney! The trio field questions from listeners about the Delphi Case, WM3, the Super Bowl Halftime show, and more. Make sure you stay tuned till the end for a HUGE announcement about the future of Truth & Justice. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
53:0018/02/2022
Kelsi German

Kelsi German

On the 5 year anniversary of the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German, Bob invites Libby’s sister Kelsi on the show to take some time to remember Libby. The tragedy knows as the Delphi Murders has sent shockwaves of trauma throughout the world. Oftentimes lost in the shuffle is the family of the victims. Today’s episode is not a case discussion. Instead Bob wanted to hear more about Libby, and Kelsi’s life navigating these last 5 years. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
36:2713/02/2022
Velez Update Follow-Up

Velez Update Follow-Up

The guys answer questions gathered from social media after Sunday's episode where Bob interviewed Lisa "Brat" Martinez in an update episode on the Pablo Velez case. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
35:5211/02/2022
Pablo Velez Update

Pablo Velez Update

Bob is joined by Pablo’s advocate and partner Lisa “Brat” Martinez to breakdown Harris County’s latest filing on the appeal. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
40:3606/02/2022
MVAC - Jared Bradley Follow-Up

MVAC - Jared Bradley Follow-Up

The guys answer listener questions from Facebook and Youtube regarding MVac testing of the DNA in the Forgotten West Memphis Three case. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
45:3004/02/2022
MVAC w/ Jared Bradley

MVAC w/ Jared Bradley

Bob interviews the President and CEO of MVAC Technologies. The MVAC system was created by Jared’s father and wasn’t originally used for DNA extraction. Jarred explains the origin of the technology, how it works, and how it may help to finally solve the WM3 case. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
50:4230/01/2022
Maggie Freleng Follow-Up

Maggie Freleng Follow-Up

The guys answer listener questions after Bob's interview with Maggie Freleng. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
32:2628/01/2022
Maggie Freleng

Maggie Freleng

Bob is joined by friend and fellow podcaster, Maggie Freleng. The two catch up on life in general, and dig into Maggie’s trials and tribulations creating “Murder in Alliance”. Also, Maggie lets us know about some up-and-coming projects. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
38:1023/01/2022
Josh Hallmark Follow-Up

Josh Hallmark Follow-Up

The guys are back in the studio to take on listener questions on both Bob's interview with Josh Hallmark, as well as the recent developments in the West Memphis Three case. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
36:4521/01/2022
Josh Hallmark

Josh Hallmark

Bob is joined by his friend and fellow investigative podcaster, Josh Hallmark. Josh is the creator and host of the podcast "True Crime Bullsh**." Recently, his efforts resulted in the identification of a John Doe and simultaneously solved a years-old missing persons case. He’s here to discuss. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
38:5416/01/2022
Jim Clemente Follow-Up

Jim Clemente Follow-Up

In this episode, the guys broadcast live over Youtube to take on listener questions. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
48:3514/01/2022