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The Truth & Justice Podcast is listener driven show, devoted to the pursuit of truth and justice. Host, Bob Ruff, investigates potential wrongful conviction and cold cases using a unique crowdsourcing approach. Bob invites listeners to participate in the investigations, as he breaks down a new case in each season in real time. Truth & Justice season 15 follows and investigates the potential wrongful conviction of Jodi (Joseph) Hill, and the divide between the people of Benton Harbor Michigan and the police force tasked with serving and protecting them.
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S2 Ep46: A Pattern of Behavior

S2 Ep46: A Pattern of Behavior

In this episode Bob furthers his investigation into Leonard and Angela's possible involvement into the death of Elnora Griffin. A new document recovered from the Smith County Sheriff Department is revealed that will send shivers down your spine. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
22:5111/12/2016
S2 Ep45: S2:E45 Follow-Up

S2 Ep45: S2:E45 Follow-Up

In this Friday Follow-Up, Bob and Mike connect with the listeners about episode 245. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
40:5909/12/2016
S2 Ep45: Shame

S2 Ep45: Shame

In this episode, Bob reveals new evidence that exposes Detective Dale Hukill for intentionally fabricating evidence. We also find new evidence that may bring Leonard Mosley back into play as a suspect. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
30:4504/12/2016
S2 Ep44: S2:E44 Follow-Up

S2 Ep44: S2:E44 Follow-Up

In this Friday Follow-Up, Bob and Mike answer emails, tweets, Facebook posts and phone calls about #episode244. We also get to hear from Ed on this one. The guys were able to capture a call from Ed on the day after his Birthday. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
48:4202/12/2016
S2 Ep44: Black #FridayFollowUp Bonus

S2 Ep44: Black #FridayFollowUp Bonus

Bob and Mike were goofing around with Bob's kids in the studio this morning. After editing the show for the boys, we decided to drop the episode as a Friday Follow-Up. It's just for fun. Nothing about the case. Enjoy the holiday weekend everyone!
22:2425/11/2016
S2 Ep44: Bull Corn

S2 Ep44: Bull Corn

In this episode, we hear from the "man in the white corvette", Lynell Williams. He explains his relationship with Elnora, tells us about her as a person, and gives us some insight into why she left Dallas. In segment 2, we hear from Ed. He answers a lot of questions that have popped up in the last few episodes, with a big reveal at the end. #episode244 #freeedates Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
56:4320/11/2016
S2 Ep43: S2:E43 Follow-Up

S2 Ep43: S2:E43 Follow-Up

In this Friday Follow-Up episode, Bob and Mike answer several email, Twitter and Facebook questions, as well as take several phone calls from listeners. A lot of questions about episode 243 are answered here, and we get a sneak peak into Sunday's episode. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
38:3518/11/2016
S2 Ep43: The Crime Lab

S2 Ep43: The Crime Lab

In this episode, Bob analyzes a series of documents recently obtained by the Texas Department of Public Safety Crime Laboratory. The information contained within these documents is shocking. Tweet your follow-up questions to @truthjusticepod, using hashtag #episode243 Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
44:2513/11/2016
S2 Ep42: S2:E42 Follow-Up

S2 Ep42: S2:E42 Follow-Up

In this follow-up episode Bob and Mike answer several email, Facebook and Twitter questions. The guys are super laid back this week. We hear from two listeners in the call-in segment. Listen in on this week's conversation. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
42:3711/11/2016
S2 Ep42: ISIS Terror

S2 Ep42: ISIS Terror

In this episode, Bob breaks down the supplemental report that was written by Detective Dale Hukill 6 months after Elnora's murder. Find out how Hukill "bent the truth" to ensure Ed's re-indictment. In segment two, Bob discovers a document that Ed's defense attorneys had in their possession, but never used at trial. You'll be shocked and appalled when you find out how this document could have saved Ed's life! Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
59:3706/11/2016
S2 Ep41: S2:E41 Follow-Up

S2 Ep41: S2:E41 Follow-Up

In this first ever "Follow-Up" episode, Bob takes two phone calls from listeners with questions about the #freeadnan case, and a question about the D.A.'s office in Smith County. In the email/Twitter/Facebook segment, Bob and Mike answer several questions ranging from thoughts on the new music to what's going on with the David Dobbs interview. Also, Bob gives the Follow-Up listeners a sneak peak into episode 242. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
53:0304/11/2016
S2 Ep41: Christopher Scott

S2 Ep41: Christopher Scott

In this episode, Bob interviews exoneree Chris Scott. Chris was convicted of capital murder and sexual assault and began a life sentence in the Coffield Unit prison in 1997. He became friends with Ed Ates, when Ed arrived at the same unit in 1998. The two spent 10 years together in prison, before Scott was finally exonerated through a Conviction Integrity Unity in Dallas County. Chris tells us about his experience with the criminal justice system, his time spent living with Ed, his exoneration, and fills us in on what he's doing now to help other people who have been wrongfully convicted. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
45:2430/10/2016
S2 Ep40: Our First Follow-Up

S2 Ep40: Our First Follow-Up

In this episode, Bob taps into the #truthandjusticearmy for feedback, theories and questions about the Margie Jackson interview and the new information about Angela Walker. There are a lot of exciting things happening right now. Stay tuned to the end of the show, for a big announcement. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
51:5023/10/2016
S2 Ep39: Jealous Lover?

S2 Ep39: Jealous Lover?

In this episode, Bob follows up on the Margie interview. He gives us some new information that may help to clear up some questions that a lot of people had. Bob also begins an investigation into Angela Walker, and fills us in on the status of his open records request with the Smith County DA's Office. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
36:0416/10/2016
S2 Ep38: Margie Jackson

S2 Ep38: Margie Jackson

In this episode, Bob continues the investigation into the murder of Elnora Griffin. This week, the investigation turns toward Ed's mother Margie. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:08:1009/10/2016
S2 Ep37: Listener Questions About Mosley

S2 Ep37: Listener Questions About Mosley

In this episode, Bob reaches out to the #Truth&JusticeArmy to further discuss the Leonard Mosley interview. Bob answers questions, and digs deeper into Mosley's statements. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:07:1401/10/2016
S2 Ep36: The Interview

S2 Ep36: The Interview

In this episode, we hear the full interview with Leonard Mosley. Segment one features the full interview, and in segment two Bob breaks down the interview and gives his analysis. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:03:4425/09/2016
S2 Ep35: The Big Trip

S2 Ep35: The Big Trip

This week we travel along with Bob back to Tyler, Texas. We hear from some very interesting people. Experience this trip right along side Bob. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
30:1818/09/2016
S2 Ep34: Transparent

S2 Ep34: Transparent

In this episode, Bob takes us along on his journey where he has been attempting to obtain case files from the Smith County DA's office for over 5 months. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
32:0811/09/2016
S2 Ep33: The Ole Switcheroo

S2 Ep33: The Ole Switcheroo

In this episode, Bob finally discovers the full picture of how Kenny Snow came to be involved in Ed's case. We also find out just how close we came to having some key physical evidence tested, that could have completely changed the outcome of the case. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
43:0704/09/2016
S2 Ep32: Dynamite

S2 Ep32: Dynamite

In this episode we hear from two jurors from Ed's second trial. Bob tells the story of how a man was convicted unanimously without a single piece of direct evidence tying him to the crime. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
39:4828/08/2016
S2 Ep31: #FreeEdAtes

S2 Ep31: #FreeEdAtes

This episode is all about Ed, Kim, Kyra and Zachary. Bob expresses his feelings after meeting Ed and his family face to face for the first time. We hear directly from Ed and Kim in this episode. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
42:1321/08/2016
S2 Ep30: It was a Fecal Matter

S2 Ep30: It was a Fecal Matter

In this episode, we hear from Ed's brother Kelvin Ates. We learn about the strange involvement that Kelvin had in Ed's trial. Bob also examines the defense's strategy and closing arguments. We find out how the State managed to convince 12 jurors that an innocent man was guilty.
37:1614/08/2016
S2 Ep29: Railroaded

S2 Ep29: Railroaded

In this episode, Bob analyzes the investigation of the murder of Elnora Griffin. He takes a deep dive into what Detectives Waller, Hukill and McKay did do, and more importantly, what they DIDN'T do. The end result is a startling realization that the false imprisonment of Edward Ates was no accident.
52:5907/08/2016
S2 Ep28: This Is Not Over

S2 Ep28: This Is Not Over

In this episode, Bob updates listeners on the ruling in Kerry Max Cook's case. In the second segment, Bob continues to re-evaluate the Elnora Griffin crime scene after receiving listener feedback on last week's theories.
41:1731/07/2016
S2 Ep27: Flash

S2 Ep27: Flash

In this episode, Bob updates listeners on Kenny Snow's case, asks for listeners to begin a letter writing campaign to support Kerry Max Cook, and takes a deeper look at the Elnora Griffin crime scene. The new analysis connects the dots in the reconstruction of the crime scene. Bob also announces the launch of the new Truth & Justice Patreon page. www.patreon.com/truthandjustice
44:2224/07/2016
S2 Ep26: The Ball's In Your Court

S2 Ep26: The Ball's In Your Court

In this episode, Bob breaks down the phone records of Elnora Griffin and proposes several theories that may explain the "I'm sitting here talking to Edward" phone call. The second segment features an interview that sheds a new light onto the Kerry Max Cook case.
01:09:2917/07/2016
S2 Ep25: This Changes Everything

S2 Ep25: This Changes Everything

In this episode, Bob begins with a breakdown of the judges ruling that resulted in Adnan's conviction being vacated. In the second segment, Bob explains the proceedings at the Kerry Max Cook actual innocence hearing. In the third segment, Bob gives a startling analysis of the Lynda Jo Edwards murder. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:10:0710/07/2016
S2 Ep24: Cubia

S2 Ep24: Cubia

In this episode, Bob breaks down the testimony of Cubia Jackson. Cubia had testified that Elnora had told her over the phone, on the night she was murdered, that she was "sitting her talking to Edward." Bob was able to make contact with Cubia to discuss her testimony. Also, Bob reveals more funny business in the DA's office. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
46:4703/07/2016
S2 Ep23: Listeners Ask Me Anything

S2 Ep23: Listeners Ask Me Anything

In this episode, Bob takes calls from listeners. You'll hear about Adnan, Kenny, Ed and Kerry in this episode. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
52:3826/06/2016
S2 Ep22: A Clearer Picture

S2 Ep22: A Clearer Picture

In this episode, Bob walks through all of the events and discoveries from his most recent trip to Tyler, TX. We also hear from Ed's new attorney. Allison Clayton from The Innocence Project of Texas. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
58:0219/06/2016
S2 Ep21: Bonus: Interview w/ Kerry Max Cook

S2 Ep21: Bonus: Interview w/ Kerry Max Cook

This special bonus edition features an exclusive interview with Kerry Max Cook. This is the first interview Kerry has given since his conviction was set aside on June 6th.  Donate to Kerry here; www.paypal.me/kerrymaxcook2016 Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
33:3816/06/2016
S2 Ep21: This Is Not My Story

S2 Ep21: This Is Not My Story

In this episode, Bob walks us through all of the new developments in the Kerry Max Cook case, and follows up with some shocking new developments in the Edward Ates case. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
36:4612/06/2016
S2 Ep20: Psycho

S2 Ep20: Psycho

In this episode, we hear from Edward Ates' wife Kimberly. An emotional beginning to this episode, shifts to an extremely detailed analysis of Francis Johnson's whereabouts on the night of Elnora's murder. Bob closes the episode by revealing new found evidence in the Kerry Max Cook case. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
59:2205/06/2016
S2 Ep19: Exhibit 137

S2 Ep19: Exhibit 137

In this episode, Bob discusses the latest developments in the Kerry Max Cook case and calls upon his listeners to help him support Kerry at his Actual Innocence Hearing. Bob then updates listeners on some new information in the Ed Ates Case, then we hear from Jeff Deskovic and William Haughey. Jeff's foundation just secured a full exoneration for William, and they join Bob to talk about the experience. In the final segment, Bob breaks down the trial testimony of Francis Johnson. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
53:1229/05/2016
S2 Ep18: Shorty

S2 Ep18: Shorty

In this episode, Bob breaks down the testimony of Angela Walker. We hear some happy news about both Ed and Kenny, and some analysis of the post-offense behaviors of Ed and Leonard Mosley. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
37:5922/05/2016
S2 Ep17: The Devil's in the Details

S2 Ep17: The Devil's in the Details

In this episode, Bob breaks down a detailed analysis of Leonard Mosley's testimony. Leonard is the man who was dating Elnora and had previously been engaged to her. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
30:2715/05/2016
S2 Ep16: A Tangled Web

S2 Ep16: A Tangled Web

In this episode, Bob completes a follow up analysis of the crime scene, including the testimony of another crime scene investigator. We hears some listener theories, and break down the known timeline of Edward Ates. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
51:0808/05/2016
S2 Ep15: Crime Scene Analysis

S2 Ep15: Crime Scene Analysis

In this episode, Bob discusses Elnora Griffin's victimology and completes a thorough analysis of the actual crime scene. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:09:5901/05/2016
S2 Ep14: The Case Against Ates

S2 Ep14: The Case Against Ates

In this episode, Bob lays out the State's case against Edward Ates. This is the first episode, in a series of episodes where Bob will break down this case point by point. This week, we hear only the evidence that supports the State's theory that Ed Ates murdered Elnora Griffin. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
29:0624/04/2016
S2 Ep13: The Belly of the Beast

S2 Ep13: The Belly of the Beast

In this episode, Bob makes yet another trip to Tyler, Texas. While sitting in the middle of the Smith County Courthouse, he finds critical information to both Edward Ates' and Kenny Snow's cases. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
53:3317/04/2016
S2 Ep12: Actual Innocence

S2 Ep12: Actual Innocence

In this episode, Bob updates the listeners on more Smith County Shenanigans. You'll hear a short break down of Kerry Max Cook's case, then hear Kerry speak about what is happening this week as he approaches his actual innocence hearing. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
27:2410/04/2016
S2 Ep11: Big Picture

S2 Ep11: Big Picture

In this episode, Bob further dissects the Edward Ates case and reveals new information on the Kenny Snow case. Two other cases of Smith County corruption are discussed. Bob announces his theory on Kenny Snow's guilt/innocence, and throws down the gauntlet to David Dobbs. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
34:0203/04/2016
S2 Ep10: HOPE

S2 Ep10: HOPE

This episode is a turning point for the Smith County case. Bob is connecting dots, and finally developing a strategy to take down the corrupt justice system. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:08:0327/03/2016
S2 Ep9: Bonus: Jeff Deskovic & Listener Calls

S2 Ep9: Bonus: Jeff Deskovic & Listener Calls

In this episode, Bob spends the first hour taking calls and answering questions from listeners. The second segment is an interview with exoneree, Jeff Deskovic. Jeff tells the story of how he was coerced into a false confession, and then later released after DNA proved his innocence. Jeff goes on to explain the work that he's doing since his release, advocating for other people who have been wrongfully convicted. To donate to the Jeffrey Deskovic Foundation, click the following link: https://www.patreon.com/DeskovicFoundation?ty=h Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:45:4720/03/2016
S2 Ep9: Triple Header

S2 Ep9: Triple Header

This episode is broken into 3 segments. Bob updates the listeners on all 3 current cases. Hear the latest developments on the Smith County case, including more information on Edward Ates. Bob also discusses his theory on the Syed/Lee case, and discusses the comments that he made at the Night for Justice Gala. Lastly, he updates the listeners on the Abi Cordoba-Wilson Case. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
55:1213/03/2016
S2 Ep9: Bonus:  Kenny's First Interview, Full, Uncut

S2 Ep9: Bonus: Kenny's First Interview, Full, Uncut

This episode is not for every listener. This is the full, uncut, unedited version of Kenny's first interrogation with the police. It is not an easy listen, but many listeners have asked to have access to the full interview. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:23:0409/03/2016
S2 Ep9: Kenny's First Interview

S2 Ep9: Kenny's First Interview

In this episode, Bob dissects Kenny Snow's first interview with Detectives Van Ness and Waller. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
47:1806/03/2016
S2 Ep8: Plump

S2 Ep8: Plump

In this episode, we get a lesson in interrogation. Bob discusses and analyzes the police interrogation of Patricia "Plump" Mims. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:03:3228/02/2016
S2 Ep7:  Rose City

S2 Ep7: Rose City

In this episode, Bob finds a new lead that leads him right back into the lions' den. This episode was recorded in a hotel. Bob headed back to Tyler this week to meet with Bill Cole. Bill was the victim in the first robbery. The information obtained this week is shocking. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon!
01:05:1221/02/2016