Bob breaks down Defense Attorney Ernie White's closing argument, and Prosecutor Art Cotter's rebuttal. We learn how Jodi's trial came to its conclusion before the jury was sent to deliberate. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: Naked Wines – To get Naked Wine’s 6 bottle for $39.99 offer, head to NakedWines.com/Truth and use code TRUTH for both the code AND password.

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss the State's closing argument, Jodi's attorney, and answer listener questions.  Today’s Sponsors: Uncommon Goods – Go to UncommonGoods.com/truth for 15% off. 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Bob breaks down Prosecutor Art Cotter's closing argument from Jodi's murder trial. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Bob, Janet, and Zaq discuss Bob's trip to Texas, Dakarai Larriett, and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Bob is joined by Dakarai Larriett. Dakarai was pulled over, harassed and arrested for breaking no laws in the City of Benton Harbor this spring. After his release, he FOIA'd the body cam footage which revealed some startling actions by the arresting officers. Follow Dakarai on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@dakarail The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss the alibi witnesses, time card, and their credibility and answer listener questions.  Today's Sponsors: Lumen – Get 15% off of your Lumen at Lumen.me/truth 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Is Jodi's alibi corroborated by the people they were with on the night of the murder? Today we find out what Princella, LaShunn, Cornelius, Sharelle and Nadia testified to at trial. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsors: Fabric by Gerber Life – Apply today in just minutes at MeetFabric.com/truth Factor – Go to FactorMeals.com/truth50 and use code “truth50” to get 50% off your first box and 20% off your next month. 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss Jodi's testimony and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Get tickets to the Berkshire Podcast Festival at BerkshirePodcastFestival.com.  Use promo code “FALLINTOTHESOUND” for 20% off.

After McGinnis' damning version of events was shared with the jury, Jodi Hill was left with no other choice than to take the stand themself in their own defense. In this episode, Bob breaks down Jodi's trial testimony. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Bob and Janet go over McGinnis' testimony and his version of Jodi's interview, as well as corruption in the Benton Harbor Police Department and answer listener questions.   Today's Sponsors: Naked Wines – To get Naked Wine’s 6 bottle for $39.99 offer, head to NakedWines.com/Truth and use code TRUTH for both the code AND password.   1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth   The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Get tickets to the Berkshire Podcast Festival at BerkshirePodcastFestival.com.  Use promo code “FALLINTOTHESOUND” for 20% off.

Bob breaks down Lead Detective, Dan McGinnis' trial testimony. We learn some new details about the crime scene, and discover a few discrepancies from the original police reports. We also hear how McGinnis' testimony boxed Jodi into a corner, leaving them with no other choice but to take the stand in their own defense. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Bob and Zaq discuss the pattern of behavior in the Benton Harbor Police Department and answer listener questions. Get tickets to the Berkshire Podcast Festival at BerkshirePodcastFestival.com.  Use promo code “FALLINTOTHESOUND” for 20% off. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

This episode is short and sweet. Bob shares a number of public cases that highlight the Benton Harbor Police Department's pattern of corruption over the span of 1995 - 2003. Research for this episode was completed primarily by listener Caroline Dwyer, with additional research by Ericka Bergenham. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: Soul – Head to GetSoul.com and use code “TRUTH” for 30% off your order.

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss the murder of Marcellus Williams by the state of Missouri, Shadess Wells message from Leon Nucomb, and the whereabouts of DeMario on the night he was murdered and answer listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsors: Lumen – Get 15% off of your Lumen at Lumen.me/truth Fabric by Gerber Life – Apply today in just minutes at MeetFabric.com/truth 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth Get tickets to the Berkshire Podcast Festival at BerkshirePodcastFestival.com.  Use promo code “FALLINTOTHESOUND” for 20% off.

An entire group of witnesses all coordinate to create a completely false narrative. Is there goal to help the State build a case against Jodi...or is the purpose simply to protect someone else? Bob lays out the data, and poses the question to you. Why? The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss the other witnesses and the effect they have on Victoria Miles' story and answer listener questions. Get tickets to the Berkshire Podcast Festival at BerkshirePodcastFestival.com.  Use promo code “FALLINTOTHESOUND” for 20% off. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Bob explores the statements and testimonies of two eye witnesses to DeMorrio Lowes' murder. One key witness was excluded from the trial, because her story disproves the State's entire case. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: Soul – Head to GetSoul.com and use code “TRUTH” for 30% off your order.

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss the kites, the jailhouse snitch, and Jodi's testimony and answer listener questions. Get tickets to the Berkshire Podcast Festival at BerkshirePodcastFestival.com.  Use promo code “FALLINTOTHESOUND” for 20% off. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsors: Factor – Go to FactorMeals.com/truth50 and use code “truth50” to get 50% off your first box and 20% off your next month. 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Part of the evidence used by the State to convince the jury that Jodi was guilty was a series of notes (AKA kites) that Jodi sent while they were in jail. We learn about the kites, and the jailhouse snitch that testified at trial. Terrance Hunter testified that Jodi confessed to him. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsors: Fabric by Gerber Life – Apply today in just minutes at MeetFabric.com/truth 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Bob, Janet, and Zaq discuss the physical evidence in the case and answer listener questions. Get tickets to the Berkshire Podcast Festival at BerkshirePodcastFestival.com.  Use promo code “FALLINTOTHESOUND” for 20% off. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

After covering the witness testimony that helped to convict Jodi for the murder of DeMorrio Lowes, this week we move into the physical evidence presented at trial. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Bob, Zaq, and Janet try to make sense of what actually happened regarding the shooting of Darius Wimberly and answer listener questions.  Body Cam Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXI6lwdTBlU Get tickets to the Berkshire Podcast Festival at BerkshirePodcastFestival.com.  Use promo code “FALLINTOTHESOUND” for 20% off. Today's Sponsor: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Bob sits down for an emotional discussion with the mother, grandmother and brother of Darius Wimberly. Darius was shot and killed by Benton Harbor Police Officers on October 18, 2016. The official story was that officers were at a call regarding someone being held at gunpoint, when Darius started shooting at them from the street. According to his mother, the official story is a lie. She believes that her son was murdered by the Benton Harbor Department of Public Safety. LINK TO BODYCAM VIDEO The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsors: Factor – Go to FactorMeals.com/truth50 and use code “truth50” to get 50% off your first box and 20% off your next month. 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Bob, Zaq, and Janet talk about Victoria Miles' identification of Jodi's car and answer listener questions. Get tickets to the Berkshire Podcast Festival at BerkshirePodcastFestival.com.  Use promo code “FALLINTOTHESOUND” for 20% off.   The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: Soul – Head to GetSoul.com and use code “TRUTH” for 30% off your order.

Jodi Hill was connected to the scene of DeMorrio's murder by a witness who claimed to be able to positively identify Jodi's car, based on the sound. The story is pretty wild, evolves and changes over time, and is once again connected to the Miles family. Get tickets to the Berkshire Podcast Festival at BerkshirePodcastFestival.com.  Use promo code “FALLINTOTHESOUND” for 20% off. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss Carveail Miles's possible involvement in the murder of Demario Lowes and answer listener questions. Get tickets to the Berkshire Podcast Festival at BerkshirePodcastFestival.com.  Use promo code “FALLINTOTHESOUND” for 20% off. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. TODAY'S SPONSORS: Fabric by Gerber Life – Apply today in just minutes at MeetFabric.com/truth 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

There are two names that are littered throughout the DeMorrio Lowes murder book. Jodi Hill, and Carveail Miles. There were just as many people in the city of Benton Harbor that believed Carveail was responsible for Mario's murder as there were that believed Jodi was responsible. The Miles family is present in nearly every element of the investigation. Bob breaks it all down in this complex . . . and confusing episode. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsors: Greenlight – Get your first month free when you go to Greenlight.com/truth Better Help - Go to BetterHelp.com/truth to get 10% off your first month. 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss the robbery and Sturgill's misidentification of Jodi. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Somewhere In The Pines is a serial podcast dedicated to locating the hidden caches of American Serial Killer, Israel Keyes. Listen along as Joshua and Dakota search the small towns, rivers and campgrounds of Washington’s Olympic Peninsula. Somewhere in the Pines is a Studio BOTH/AND collaboration: www.somewhereinthepines.com / bothand.fyi  

Bob breaks down a major element of the case against Jodi Hill. At trial the State convinced the jury that Jodi was part of an armed robbery attempt on DeMorrio Lowes, which served as their motive to silence him. The reality of the situation is mind boggling. In this episode Jodi explains what they know about the robbery, and we learn how that information matters when it comes to the fairness of Jodi's trial. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: Naked Wines – To get Naked Wine’s 6 bottle for $39.99 offer, head to NakedWines.com/Truth and use code TRUTH for both the code AND password.

Bob, Zaq and Janet have an in-depth discussion about the forensics and layout of the crime scene of DeMorrio Lowes' murder. They breakdown the layout of the scene, and really get into the weeds regarding the firearm used. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Bob digs into the evidence as we breakdown the various crime scene investigative reports, the autopsy and forensic analysis results. What actually happened to DeMorrio Lowes, and who could have been responsible? The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss crime scene timing, Sonya Lucas's testimony and affidavit, as well as Bob's recent contact with the Attorney General's Conviction Integrity Unit. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: Factor – Go to FactorMeals.com/truth50 and use code “truth50” to get 50% off your first box and 20% off your next month.

Bob proves without any shadow of a doubt that DeMorrio Lowes was not murdered at 12:40am, as claimed by McGinnis. We learn how Jodi's alibi was deconstructed at trial, and hear directly from the State's key witness at trial. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Bob, Zaq, and Janet answer listener questions about Jodi's alibi. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's sponsor: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

This week we hear directly from Jodi for the first time. Bob breaks down the details of Jodi's alibi, and Jodi themself talks about their transition, life in prison as a non-binary person, and tells us directly what they were doing on the night Demorrio Lowes was murdered. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Bob, Zaq and Janet dig deeper into Demorrio Lowes' victimology, and the events leading up to his murder. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: Better Help - Go to BetterHelp.com/truth to get 10% off your first month.

I'm reposting this interview from a few years ago with former Benton Harbor Police Officer, Andrew Collins. Andrew was caught planting evidence and stealing on the job, and has been trying to make things right since he got out of prison. This is a good look into the culture in the Benton Harbor Police Department in the early 2000's, around the time of Jodi's arrest.

Bob breaks down Demorrio Lowes victimology. We learn about the armed robbery attempt that he escaped days before his murder, his movements and who he was with on the night of, as as well as the details and timing of the attack that tragically took his life. Bob also shares and addresses his correspondences with Benton Harbor Public Safety Director Dan McGinnis. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsors: The True Crime Obsessed Podcast - Available anywhere you get your podcasts. Greenlight – Get your first month free when you go to Greenlight.com/truth

Bob, Zaq and Janet have an in-depth discussion about the season 15 premiere episode, and answer several listener questions. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth

Host Bob Ruff begins his journey into investigating a potential wrongful conviction in the City of Benton Harbor, Michigan. Bob, a High School Broadcast Journalism Teacher, is joined by two of his students as together they promise to tell the stories of a community who feels ignored by their City Leadership, and reveal the truth in the tragic murder of Demorrio Lowes. In this season premiere episode we learn the history and background of the City of Benton Harbor, and discover how this once thriving hub of industry and entertainment devolved into an impoverished community plagued by violence. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsors: 1st Phorm – Get free shipping on all orders over $75, and new customers get the 1st Phorm app for free for 30 days with purchase.  You’ll receive an email with the app offer after your purchase.  Get started on your fitness goals today at 1stPhorm.com/truth Better Help - Go to BetterHelp.com/truth to get 10% off your first month.

Bob, Janet and Zaq discuss the upcoming Season 15 premier, the interview with Jim Clemente, Baby Reindeer and the Kay Alana Turner newly released body cam footage. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Bob and Jim chat about the changes and the future of Real Crime Profile, and have a fantastic in-depth discussion about the Netflix series "Baby Reindeer." Make sure to check out Jim's other podcast "Best Case Worst Case" and his new Audible Original "Bluebeard". The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Bob, Zaq and Janet talk about Kerry Max Cook's exoneration, dig deeper into the Marcellus Williams case, and update everyone on the progress that's being made on Season 15. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

In 2017 Marcellus Williams avoided being executed for a crime he did not commit by just 4 hours. Bob covered his case at the time, and engaged the Truth & Justice Army in the fight to free this innocent man. Since then, a new Governor has taken charge in Missouri and he has since lifted the former Governor's stay on the execution and dissolved the board of inquiry that had been investigating the case. This week the Missouri Supreme Court set an execution date for Williams, and the Innocence Project has asked for our help to save Marcellus Williams' life. Sign the petition to save an innocent man by clicking HERE. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsors: Better Help - Go to BetterHelp.com/truth to get 10% off your first month. Total Gym – Go to TotalGymDirect.com/truth for an additional 20% off.

Bob sits down with Lizz Rose to discuss updates and progress in her mother's case. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: Murder:  True Crime Stories podcast.  Download wherever you get your podcasts.

Bob sits down with two of his favorite people in true crime, Katie and Kimberly from the AWARD WINNING "A Date with Dateline" podcast. This is just a fun conversation between friends. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live.

Without many listener questions, Bob, Zaq and Janet chat about the memories brought up by listening to the flashback episode, and talk about the next season of T&J. The majority of the funding of our work comes directly from listeners, through our Patreon community.  To join Patreon, click THIS LINK.  At the $5/month level you'll get access to lots of Patreon Only BONUS EPISODES, Ad Free versions of all episodes, an hour of Patreon Exclusive video content every week, and our new weekly podcast “Pre-Game”, which drops every Wednesday.  Not to mention early access to some episodes and the ability to watch and participate in interviews live. Today's Sponsor: Greenlight – Get your first month free when you go to Greenlight.com/truth