Ep. 110 Lenore Naxon: The Only Constant is Change This week the PodSquad dreams about what to do with a magical pot of money for extra programming, which leads to Katie’s conversation with friend and mentor Lenore Naxon. Lenore dives into nuances of board management, leading in the presenter consortium space, and how changes in the industry present challenges and opportunities. Lenore Naxon is the founder of Naxon Consulting (https://naxonconsulting.com/) and co-chair of the Presenters Leadership Consortium. She is also the pod’s Biggest Fan!   Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 109 Phil Esparza: Challenges Not Barriers This week we bring you an unexpected interview from our time at the 2024 WAA Conference. Bryan has the honor and pleasure of sitting down with Phil Esparza of El Teatro Campesino, the legendary Chicano theater company. We discuss the company’s history and legacy, community engagement, and trace Phil’s career from college student to performer to collegiate presenter. Phil Esparza is the Executive Producer of El Teatro Campesino (https://elteatrocampesino.com/). The company celebrates its 60th anniversary in 2025. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 108: Live from MAX – Are Audiences Back? This week our hosts go back in time without the time machine (thanks, Kevin!) to when we first started presenting shows inside again after pandemic closures, and then our guests from the expo hall floor at MAX bring different perspectives on engaging with audiences in this moment to the conversation. We dig into the future of opera and classical music audiences, engaging “young” audiences now for the future, and the impact of social media and other platforms on the monetary value of live performing arts.   Our guests this week are: Bob Wendland, Assistant Director, Washington Pavilion Management Maddy Ringo, Singer-songwriter Bill Blagg, Illusionist   Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 107 Live from MAX – Reflections on Equity in the Field This week Kevin shares some great news and our hosts think they are hay-larious before diving into the serious topic of changes in equity in our field. Our guests at the Midwest Arts Xpo discuss slow shifts in programming and the hierarchical structures that impede progress, and we dig deep into just a few of the challenges with contracting. Our guests this week are: Sarah Haag, Artist Wallace Thomas, Artist, Ball in the House Clare Longendyke, Pianist Karoline Myers, Director of Education, Des Moines Performing Arts Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 106 Paul Sage Cannon: Be Brave Enough to Believe in Yourself This week our hosts get a bit philosophical before we listen to Danielle’s conversation with singer-songwriter Paul Sage Cannon from our time at the 2024 Western Arts Alliance Conference. Paul shares how his personal history informs his songwriting, how the weight of being a culture barer is both painful and joyful at the same time, and reminds us that music is a healing artform. Paul Sage Cannon ( https://paulsagecannon.com/ ) is a singer-songwriter from the Waipuk Clan, a part of the Kumeyaay Nation. He is also a certified Native Healer and speaks on Native healing, philosophy, cultural education. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 105 Eric Olmscheid: Make Room to Dream Whoohoo! This week the Quad Producers celebrate our two-year anniversary! We are so grateful for everyone’s support of this endeavor and for sticking with us week after week, listening and laughing with us. This week Katie speaks with Eric Olmscheid about his journey from farm kid to arts administrator, staying focused on what’s important, and keeping audiences curious.   Eric Olmscheid is the Executive Director of Wharton Center for Performing Arts on the campus of Michigan State University (https://www.whartoncenter.com) and the Board Vice President of Heartland Performing Arts, which administers the Midwest Arts Xpo (https://midwestartsxpo.org).   Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 104 Live from MAX – The Cost of Touring and Merch Splits  We’re bringing you round 2 of our mini-interviews from the 2024 Midwest Arts Xpo featuring five more guests discussing the costs and challenges of touring today. Our hosts also have a spirited discussion about merch splits and the changing financial pressures of the industry (but Kevin is somehow the eternal optimist?) You can find the Pitchfork article referenced in the episode here: https://pitchfork.com/features/article/artist-merch-cuts-venues/. Our guests this week are: Helen Welch, Vocalist/Producer, Big Wow Productions Pat Hazell, Chief Creative Officer, Sweetwood Creative Patrick Donelly, Vice President of Theater Operations, Kauffman Center for the Performing Arts Zak Mirz, Magician & Storyteller Ella McAndrew, Director of Programming, The FIM   Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 103 Live from MAX – The Art of Curation   The Pod Squad (including Bryan’s double, Bry-Bacca) was lucky enough to spend a week at the 2024 Midwest Arts Xpo and record interviews live once again in the expo hall! This week we bring you five mini-interviews and our own commentary on the topic of curation as we look forward to planning the 25-26 season. Our guests this week are: Gary Minyard, Chief Creative Officer, Dayton Live Sarah Saltwick, Agent, Holden & Arts Associates Joshua Kane, Artist/Producer, Wild Baboo Productions Eric Matters, Director, Warren Performing Arts Center Jeremy Davis, Artist, The Fabulous Equinox Orchestra   Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).  

Ep. 102 We ❤️ Conferences! The Pod Squad has finished the sprint that is the start of conference season and we’re pausing to reflect on our time at the 2024 Western Arts Alliance Conference and Midwest Arts Xpo. We discuss our differing experiences of conferencing over the course of our careers, what we love about evolving conference models and what is going well, and consider how conferences can shift to meet the current needs of our industry and look to the future. What is certain is that conference planning and execution is a big job, so we encourage you to serve on a committee or offer your expertise to help build our conference ecosystem! Josh will still be attending IEBA October 5 - 8, If you are attending, stop him and say hello.   To learn more about some of the conferences we discuss in this episode you can visit: APAP: https://apap365.org/conference/ IEBA: https://www.ieba.org/conference-info-1 MAX: https://midwestartsxpo.org/ WAA: https://www.westarts.org/conference   Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).  

Ep. 101 Taína Lyons: Don’t Say No To Yourself This week most of the crew as at the Midwest Arts Xpo, but we aren’t too busy to share conversations in the industry! This week our hosts talk about moments that were meant to be and Katie sits down with professional dancer Taina Lyons to talk about training as a young dancer, the life of a dancer, and advocating for yourself in a professional space.  Taina Lyons (@dancingrunner5 on Instagram) is a NYC based dancer currently dancing with the Mark Morris Dance Group.  Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 100 Peter Noone: Watch Every Act It’s our ONE HUNDREDTH EPISODE and to celebrate Josh sits down with a living legend, Peter Noone! Peter shares stories of his incredible (and still going) career. Our host share their 100 favorite things and dream of booking the bills of the 60s.  Don’t forget you can see us at MAX in booth #512 Peter Noone (https://peternoone.com/) is a multi talented entertainer known best for Herman’s Hermits Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 99 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 2:  Must Have Passion Welcome back to Part 2 of Bryan’s conversation with Colleen Jennings-Roggensack; while you can listen to this as a standalone episode, we would recommend starting with Part 1. This week Colleen talks about EDIA, creating the New Deal for Broadway (https://www.blacktheatreunited.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/BTU-New-Deal-For-Broadway.pdf), bringing children to the theatre, and more. Colleen Jennings-Roggensack is the Executive Director of ASU Gammage (https://www.asugammage.com/). She is the Vice Chair of the Road for the Broadway League Board of Governors, the only Tony Awards voter in the state of Arizona, serves on the Black Theatre United Summit, and is a founding member of the Creative Capital Board and Senior Advisor to Women of Color in the Arts, and has been involved in numerous other national arts organizations.

Ep. 98 Colleen Jennings-Roggensack – Part 1: Broaden Your Horizon's to be a Success This week our hosts are on the road recording in person at the Western Arts Alliance (WAA) Conference! It is also the first two-parter, because this week’s guest is a true rockstar in our industry, and a recent Tony Award Honoree. Colleen Jennings-Roggensack shares stories, insights, and lessons learned from her incredible career. Colleen Jennings-Roggensack is the Executive Director of ASU Gammage (https://www.asugammage.com/). She is the Vice Chair of the Road for the Broadway League Board of Governors, the only Tony Awards voter in the state of Arizona, serves on the Black Theatre United Summit, and is a founding member of the Creative Capital Board and Senior Advisor to Women of Color in the Arts, and has been involved in numerous other national arts organizations. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod  Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 97 Gretchen Shope: Defying My Own Expectations Katie sits down with fellow Michigander and JIMMY AWARD WINNER, Gretchen Shope! Gretchen shares her passion for the performing arts, her gratefulness for her arts education, and gives us a peak backstage of the Jimmy Awards. Don’t forget you can see our hosts at the Western Arts Alliance Conference next week! You can also see us at MAX in booth #512 Gretchen Shope is the 2024 Jimmy Award (https://www.jimmyawards.com/) winner for Best Performance by an Actress. You can see her award-winning performance here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF1Z5c9ZtJk Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod  Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 96 Randy Cohen: Make the Arts Unavoidable  This week Kevin sits down with his Arts Hero, Randy Cohen to talk about how the arts impact our lives with a heavy focus on the economic impact. Randy shares how he got started in the arts and helps our listeners to advocate for the arts. Our hosts share arts moments along with some exciting news, that we are coming to the Western Arts Alliance Conference! Randy Cohen is the Vice President of Research at Americans for the Arts. Randy and his team led the Arts and Economic Prosperity 6 study. Local, State, and National data can be found here: https://aep6.americansforthearts.org/ Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 95 Stephanie Mayers: Leave Space for What’s Possible This week our hosts kick off the conversation talking about the great, boring, or weird PR they’ve gotten in the past, probably because they didn’t have Stephanie Mayers as their publicist. Stephanie talks with Danielle about being a part of the emergence and growth of the contemporary family music scene, running her own business, and gives us the 101 on what a publicist actually does. Stephanie Mayers is the founder of Mayers Consulting (http://www.mayersconsulting.com/), an artist management, public relations, and booking firm. Oh! And Katie has some exciting news! She left her job for another cool job and is also starting a cool business of her own – Michigan Maven Creative Associates! Learn more at https://www.michiganmaven.art/. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod    Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 94 Heather Augustine: Bother Me    Katie and Josh sit down with Heather Augustine, the head audio technician on the Tony Award-winning musical, The Outsiders. Heather gives insight into the audio side of the performing arts, shares her story of being a female in a largely male dominated role, how to take care of yourself on tour, and much more! Our hosts talk about women working backstage and how much (or how little) has changed, hiring bias, and what they would do if they won a Tony – spoilers, lots of ego :) Heather Augustine is a Mixer for The Outsiders on Broadway (https://outsidersmusical.com/). She has spent her career on the audio side of theatre, and writes for SoundGirls (https://soundgirls.org/category/blog/heather-augustine/) a site established to provide women working in professional audio a community to come to for support, advice, empowerment, and inspiration.     Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod    Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 93 Eleanor and Ian Carney: Copy That, Thank You The Pod Squad is back! Our hosts share what they have been up to for the past six weeks before Bryan shares his conversation with husband-and-wife team, Eleanor and Ian Carney. They share their journey to creating Lightwire Theater, working together as a couple, and the importance of learning other skills in the industry. Eleanor and Ian Carney joint direct, manage, choreograph Lightwire Theater (https://www.lightwiretheater.com/). Lightwire Theater is a unique entertainment experience that utilizes light, technology, and music to tell captivating stories.   Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod    Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi (@VicDaviMusic).

Ep. 92:  How to Mentor with Ally Haynes-Hamblin and Larry Kosson As conference season fast approaches, the NBL team has another episode to help prepare you. Mentorship may not feel like a conference prep episode, but the NBL team would like to encourage more people to participate in conference mentorship whether as a mentor (for our experienced conference attendees) or a mentee (for those new to a conference). Kevin sits down with friends of the show and experienced mentors, Ally Haynes-Hamblin and Larry Kosson where they share tips and tricks for both potential mentors and mentees. Ally Haynes-Hamblin is the Executive Director of the Charles W. Eisemann Center for Performing Arts in Richardson, Texas (https://www.eisemanncenter.com/). Ally is also a board member for the Association of Performing Arts Professionals (APAP). Larry Kosson is the Founder and President of Kosson Talent (https://kossontalent.com)   Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

NBL UPDATE: How We Conference! Volume 2  This year we wanted to give our listeners more time to plan for their conference season, so this one is coming at you earlier in the year. We have also included a representative from the Western Arts Alliance, Heartland Performing Arts, Inc. (Midwest Arts Xpo), and the Association of Performing Arts Professionals, to tell you why you should attend conferences and what you can look forward to. PLEASE NOTE: While the team will be at MAX, the booth number mentioned is from 2023, at MAX 2024 find us at booth 512! We are fast approaching conference season, and in the episode our hosts talk about their approach to conferencing. Choosing your conference, what to do before you attend, while you are there, and even following up. They even cover some tips on what to pack so you are prepared! You can find highlights, advice, and links in a PDF on our website: https://nobusinesslike.com/ Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

NBL Rewind: Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid.  Bryan takes us back to his and Kevin’s conversation with Michael Mushalla. Bryan reflects on how the summit created by Michael brought the hosts together, and how it encouraged him to show his true self and to think differently.  This week's episode is another special one! It highlights Michael Mushalla who introduced our hosts, and helped us all think differently about what comes next.  Michael Mushalla is the Owner and Founder of Double M Arts & Events, LLC (https://double-m-arts.com/), as well as a wine consultant. Michael Mushalla along with Christine Cox created “The Summit” that brought the hosts of “There’s No Business Like...” together.  Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

NBL Rewind: Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a Checklist Danielle takes us back to Sara Morgulis this week, because this is an episode she revisits to remind herself to keep going in this work, and because Sara gives tangible ways to normalize access, embed trauma-informed training, and lead with respect. Danielle and Katie take time this week to talk with Sara Morgulis about theatre for young audiences. Sara talks about what TYA/USA does, the organization’s growth, her clear passion for accessibility in the arts, advocating for teaching artists, and so much more. Our hosts share the core tenets of their leadership philosophies and talk about the inviting role that accessibility plays in our industry. Sara Morgulis is the Executive Director at Theatre for Young Audience USA – TYA/USA (https://www.tyausa.org/)  Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

NBL Rewind:  Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success This week, Josh takes us back to Danielle’s interview with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Josh chose this episode because it brought to light problematic areas in our industry. On this episode, our hosts talk about safety leading into Danielle’s engaging conversation with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Dominic shares his creative process, including his perspective on how an audience perceives his projects after creation, and how becoming a parent changed the way he was making art. Dominic and Danielle also discuss the act of “trauma mining” in the arts and specifically funding of minority art works. As a note, Dominic mentions a story about a singer at Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” Speech, that singer was Mahalia Jackson. Dominic Moore-Dunson (https://www.dommooredun.com/) is a dancer, choreographer, podcaster, and all-around creative entrepreneur. Dominic’s podcast inCOPnegro can be found here: https://www.incopnegro.com/ Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod

NBL Rewind: Bill Blagg: An Overnight Success   On this week’s NBL Rewind, host Kevin Maynard re-shares his conversation with Bill Blagg. Kevin chose this conversation for the great content on the business of show business and for all of the laughs. He believes this episode is a great reminder of all the friendships we build in this industry. This week Kevin sits down with his friend and magician, Bill Blagg. With Bill’s help, Kevin shares some of the lingo from the magic world with our fellow hosts. Bill shares his lifelong journey to where he is now, the importance of hard work, how seeing his first Broadway show changed everything, and really highlights the business of show business. Bill also shares life on the road as a husband and a father.   Bill Blagg is a magician, public speaker, entrepreneur, and more. For more information and to see Bill Blagg perform visit https://billblagg.com/   Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod  Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

NBL Rewind: Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition On this week's NBL Rewind, host Katie Miller shares her conversation with Sarah McCarthy. Katie chose this conversation because it inspired her and asks you to listen and reflect on Sarah’s advice of trusting your intuition, taking chances, and following what feels right to you.  On this episode, Katie sits down with Sarah McCarthy to talk about theatre for young audiences, new projects, and juggling life with a full workload. Our hosts reminisce about their questionable music choices as young children and acknowledge that you can love your job and still need time for yourself. Sarah McCarthy is the Agency Owner and Creative Producer at Dandelion Artists (https://www.dandelionartists.com/) representing the best in family music with artists like The Okee Dokee Brothers, Jazzy Ash, Justin Roberts, and more. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 85 Pod Squad: Time for Mental Health  This week’s episode is short, but very honest. The Pod Squad is opening up about their mental health and taking some time off. Don’t worry though! We are re-releasing some episodes that made us laugh and made us think. You can listen to those, or get caught up on our extensive back catalogue.  Take care friends! We will be back with new episodes on mid-July.  Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 84 Jorge Casco: From Handcuffs to Cufflinks  This week Kevin plays a game of Gen-Z Slang with his fellow hosts before he shares his in-depth conversation with Jorge Casco. Jorge shares his turbulent start in the arts, how the arts can save lives, the power of an individual, and reminds us that we are all loved. Jorge Casco is the Executive Director of FLY Dance Company (https://www.flydancecompany.com/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod  Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 83 Lauren Jelencovich: Stay Present and Be Yourself Bryan sits down with Lauren Jelencovich to talk about her impressive career. Lauren shares her journey from winning Star Search to attending the Manhattan School of Music to touring with Yanni as his featured vocalist for 13 years. Our hosts share phone calls that changed their lives and the importance of being present and saying yes. Lauren Jelencovich (https://www.laurenjelencovich.com/) is a touring classical crossover artist.  Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod  Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 82 David Alpert: Find the Solution Katie sits down with a former fellow Michigander, David Alpert, to talk all things Broadway. David shares his journey from wanting to be a theatre director in 5th grade to directing on Broadway. Katie and David talk about the impact of their local theatre scene growing up, the different roles on a Broadway directing team, and the importance of “showing up.” David Alpert is a New York City-based theatre director, adjunct faculty at NYU, and the creator and host of the “E-Ticket to Broadway” podcast (https://www.eticketpodcast.com/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 81 Mark Morris and Nancy Umanoff: Dance. Music. Community.   Our hosts spend this week thinking about what they thought they would be when they grew up. Josh and Kevin share their conversation with Mark Morris, who the New York Times called, “the most successful and influential choreographer alive, and indisputably the most musical” and Nancy Umanoff, the masterful executive director whose work creates the space for Mark Morris and the Mark Morris Dance Group to create art. They share their 38-year journey together, the creation of the Mark Morris Dance Center, and the challenges of the evolving funding landscape in the arts.  Mark Morris is the Artistic Director of the Mark Morris Dance Group. Nancy Umanoff is the Executive Director of the Mark Morris Dance Group (https://markmorrisdancegroup.org/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 80 Merrill Miller: Be a Sponge  This week we start with video games that taught us something before Bryan and Josh sit down with fellow presenter, Merrill Miller. Merrill shares his journey from booking his high school band gigs to booking bands at the North Shore Center. He talks about the challenges of booking a venue so close to Chicago, what a performing arts center can be, the importance of hospitality for performers, and a little about his hobby outside of the industry. Merrill Miller is the Manager of Concerts/Marketing Assistant at the North Shore Center for the Performing Arts (https://northshorecenter.org/) in Skokie, Illinois. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod  Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 79 Jeeyoon Kim: A Degree Doesn’t Guarantee Anything Our hosts start this week’s episode talking about changing traditions. Bryan shares his conversation with award-winning performer, Jeeyoon Kim. Jeeyoon shares how and why she is challenging the traditions of classical music, her unique start in Korea with playing the piano, and the challenges of being a classical music performer after university. Jeeyoon Kim is a classical pianist, educator, author (https://www.jeeyoonkim.com/product-page/whenever-you-re-ready-autographed-copy)  and a podcaster (https://www.jeeyoonkim.com/podcast) with a mission to create a bridge between her as a performer and her audience to better share classical music. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 78 Sarah Saltwick: Bring Your Whole Self   This week, Danielle and Katie share their conversation with the powerhouse that is Sarah Saltwick. They dig into taking ownership of Holden & Arts, managing the agency with three leaders, and what running an agency entails. Sarah also shares how she got started in the industry, how she continues to get involved and learn more, and attempting to balance business, life, and her artistic endeavors. Our hosts this week take a look back in their lives to what seemed like simpler times.  Sarah Saltwick is a Co-Director of Holden & Arts Associates (https://www.holdenarts.org/) and handles Sales & Artistic Relations. She is also a playwright and avid supporter of the industry as a whole through various volunteer roles. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 77 John Ernesto: Take Care of the Artist, Take Care of the Fans To start this episode our hosts discuss the artist they presented that created that surreal moment of “I can’t believe this is happening”.  Bryan and John discuss the origin of the Berks Jazz Fest and its subsequent development.  His theory on taking care of the artist and the fans and the rest will take care of itself.  We learn about how the Jazz Fest developed through community partnerships and everyone being on board.  John is retiring as general manager and artistic director of The Berks Jazz Fest, a festival featuring over 100 performances in 10 days. Find more information at  https://www.berksjazzfest.com Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 76 Jenny Sirota and Didi Perez: Be Confident, Stay Educated, and Stay Flexible Our hosts share their choices for “live on stage” adaptations before Josh shares his conversation with Jenny and Didi. They share their incredible journey in starting RoadCo in collaboration with Sony Music Entertainment. This honest conversation shares the ins and outs of this relationship, what it takes to put a show on the road, and how relationships with presenters help influence new touring shows. Didi Perez and Jenny Sirota are both Principal Agents for RoadCo Entertainment (https://www.roadcoentertainment.com/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 75 Joshua Heim: Embed Art in Your Community This week Katie and Kevin sit down with Joshua Heim to talk equity, Western Arts Alliance, the state of the arts and more. Josh shares his journey in the arts, Hula as a lifestyle, working with and for constituents, and the role of the arts in communities. Our hosts this week share awkward meetings and interesting meeting locations. Joshua Heim is the Executive Director of Western Arts Alliance (https://www.westarts.org/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 74 Ally Haynes-Hamblin: Trust Yourself and Go with the Flow Our hosts share just some of the many influential women in their lives. Danielle sits down with another influential woman in our lives, Ally Haynes-Hamblin. Ally shares her lineage in the arts, the challenging role of being a "fixer,” her leadership style and philosophy, and how to get involved in a community.  Ally Haynes-Hamblin is the Executive Director of the Charles W. Eisemann Center for Performing Arts in Richardson, Texas (https://www.eisemanncenter.com/). Ally is also a board member for the Association of Performing Arts Professionals (APAP). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 73 Jim Lenz: Transparency Leads to Trust Our hosts share their dreams on what they would do with an abandoned mall before our guest Jim Lenz joins Josh for a conversation. Jim shares his love for live music, booking artists into venues in high school, importance of artists taking control of their marketing, and changes in PAC rock shows over the years.  Jim Lenz is with TKO Booking Agency (https://tkoco.com/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 72 David Rowell: Inspiring the Next Generation Our hosts talk about times they said, “never again,” and then totally did again. This week Bryan sits down with David Rowell, an amazing educator and mentor in the industry. David shares his introduction to the arts, clown ministry, his incredible career, opening performance venues, and teaching the future of the industry. He is joined by two of his students, Ashanique Riche and Hannah Pogemiller, who share their unique view of the industry and an inside look at the program at Dean College. David Rowell is the Associate Professor and Program Coordinator of Arts and Entertainment Management at Dean College in Franklin, Massachusetts (https://www.dean.edu/academics/majors-degrees/arts-and-entertainment-management/).  Ashanique Riche and Hannah Pogemiller are students in the Arts and Entertainment Management Program. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 71 The Okee Dokee Brothers: Being Connected to Families is an Honor Before we kick-off this week’s interview the Pod Squad gives their opinion on camping, and the team congrats Josh on his appointment to the board of NAPAMA (https://www.napama.org/). The Okee Dokee Brothers join the podcast to be interviewed by their number one grownup fan, Katie Miller!  They share how they started the group, their adventure albums, engaging with their fans to market their shows, turning down a GRAMMY nomination, and more. Joe Mailander and Justin Lansing make up The GRAMMY Award winning group, The Okee Dokee Brothers (https://www.okeedokee.org/).  Joe and Justin record and perform family music with a goal to inspire children and their parents to step outside and get creative. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 70 Sarah Rogers: The Scariest Things Are the Most Rewarding  Our hosts talk about big professional risks and this week Kevin shares his conversation with Sarah Rogers. Sarah shares her early introduction to the arts, her introduction to being an agent, the challenges of touring major dance pieces and more. Sarah also shares the importance of mentorship and the importance of funding mentorship programs. Our host continue the conversation about dance, international work, and green touring. Sarah Rogers is an agent and producer representing Dana Gingras, Animals of Distinction (https://animalsofdistinction.org/)   Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 69 Dan Talmi: The Art of Rebranding Our hosts talk about “pandemic pivots,” before Josh’s engaging conversation with Dan Talmi. Dan Talmi shares his almost reluctant start in the family business, overseeing an impressive rebrand amid global conflict, the evolution of marketing, merchandising as an experience, and so much more.  Our hosts continue the conversation and discuss the concept of the “house merch cut.” Dan Talmi is a Producing Director at Talmi Entertainment, the company behind the holiday classic, Nutcracker! Magical Christmas Ballet (https://nutcracker.com/)    Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 68 Jared Freiburg: Roll With the Punches and Treat People With Respect The Pod Squad talks who they would play in a biopic, with varying levels of seriousness. This week Katie talks with Jared Freiburg, who “can play like a mother”, about his incredible and short (but still unfolding) career. Jared shares how he started working in the touring industry, life as a cruise ship performer, life on the road, starting his own band, the challenges of being a performer, and so much more. Jared also shares some tangible takeaways for new artists who want to get started touring. Jared Freiburg (https://jfreiburg.com/) is a musician, performer, and front man of Jared Freiburg and The Vagabonds. Jared toured as Jerry Lee Lewis in Million Dollar Quartet and helped create the role of Jerry Lee Lewis in Million Dollar Quartet Christmas. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 67 Dena Blizzard: Learn Your Craft, Be Funny  Our hosts share embarrassing moments before Bryan and Josh share their conversation with comedian Dena Blizzard. Dena tells her story of being a comic, creating an off-Broadway show, and eventually creating a multi-media company, starting with her unique approach to marketing. Dena shares funny stories and poignant moments in her career. Dena Blizzard is a comedian, mother of three and creator of “One Funny Mother”, a multi-media company creating content (https://www.onefunnymother.com/), products and live comedy shows about “Wine, Women and Laughter”.   Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 66 Pam Komar: Mindful Service This week Katie shares her conversation with friend of the podcast Pam Komar of the Pittsburgh Cultural Trust. They discuss the power of embracing change, how to focus on wellness and taking care of yourself, and how particular programming areas are avenues to connecting with disengaged audiences. Pam also shares the history of the Cultural Trust and the impact it continues to have on Pittsburgh. Our hosts share how they unplug and take time for themselves, and we discover that Kevin is actually from the Jersey Shore. Pam Komar is the Director of Programming at The Pittsburgh Cultural Trust (https://trustarts.org/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 65 Wone Vang: Never Give Up on Your Stupid Stupid Dreams Kevin tries out his old-timey radio voice before sitting down with Wone Vang. Wone shares the struggle of being a full-time artist and full-time employee, the Guaranteed Income Program she is managing for Springboard for the Arts, and the importance of pay equity. Our hosts talk about their life in cross stich, what individuals can do to increase pay equity, and how we can learn more on these topics.    Wone Vang is an artist (https://3drdcrafts.com/) and the Economic Opportunity Director at Springboard for the Arts (https://springboardforthearts.org/). Resources mentioned in this episode: The Art of Economic Justice: https://springboardforthearts.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/GI_Impact_Report_SBftA_2023.pdf Stefanie O’Connell Rodriguez: https://tooambitious.com/    Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 64 Micah Christian: A Process Unfolding This week Bryan sits down with the lead vocalist of Sons of Serendip, Micah Christian. Micah opens up about his journey into creating music, learning to not compare himself to others, life on the road, and more. Meanwhile, our hosts have a rousing conversation about ringtones and ring backs, Bryan effectively shuts down criticism, and realize we all have learning to do on how the music charts work.  Micah Christian is an artist passionate about storytelling, composing, and performing music that supports, enhances, and creates meaningful moments. He is the co-founder and lead vocalist of America's Got Talent Finalist, Sons of Serendip (https://www.sonsofserendip.com/). Micah is also on the board of NAPAMA. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

Ep. 63 It’s a New Years’ Spectacular! … with Guests!  The holiday season is busy and filled with surprises just like this episode! Three guests + 5 hosts = 1 fun filled episode! We’d like to thank our guests Christine Cox, Tracie Lawie, and Barron Ryan for closing out the year with us with some games and some resolutions. Thank you for listening this past year! Christine Cox – Ep. 16: is the Owner and Founder of C Squared Entertainment (https://www.csquaredentertainment.com/) and the Executive Producer of the Off Broadway family-friendly magic show, The Amazing Max (http://theamazingmaxlive.com/). Tracie Lawie – Ep. 29: is the Director of the Miller Auditorium (https://www.millerauditorium.com/). Barron Ryan – Ep. 60: (https://www.barronryan.com/) is a composer, performer, author, and creator Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.