This week on the Value Perspective podcast, we’re delighted to be joined by Alex Roepers, a guest at this year’s London Value Investment Conference. Alex is the Founder, President and Portfolio Manager of Atlantic Investment Management and a legend in the value investing world. With nearly 40 years of experience, he has navigated countless market cycles and gained a reputation as a ‘gentleman activist’, someone who engages constructively with management to unlock value, especially in the industrial sector. His approach is distinct, with a concentrated portfolio of only 8-10 stocks, a patient mindset and a sharp eye for undervalued assets. Born and raised in the Netherlands, but now based in New York, Alex brings an international perspective to his investing style, following his previous experiences at Thyssen-Bornemisza Group and Dover Corporation. In this episode, we discuss: Alex’s career, including how his approach has evolved over decades in public markets; the lessons he has learned from unexpected success; his thoughts on whether investors today are less performance-driven than they once were; his memorable analogies between investing and both sailing and the Tour de France; and finally, how he uses catalysts to drive price discovery in ways that parallel private equity. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Profesusionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

In this Allocator’s Edge episode of the Value Perspective we welcome Dan Zwirn, the CEO and CIO of Arena Investors. Dan co-founded Arena in 2015, creating innovative solutions in special situations and distressed debt markets. Arena now manages around $3.5 billion, specialising in complex investments across various sectors globally. Before Arena, Dan led multiple speciality finance ventures and founded DB Zwirn and Co, a $6 billion firm in global special situations. He brings decades of experience with a deep understanding of value investing in complex financial landscapes. In this episode, we discuss: Dan’s early shift from private equity; the unique value in credit markets; today’s distressed debt opportunities; the impact of recent monetary policy; and how restructurings can unlock hidden value. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Profesusionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

This week on the Value Perspective podcast, we’re joined by Harry Crane, Professor of Statistics at Rutgers University and a Fellow at the London Mathematical Institute. Harry is a master in probability, risk and their real world applications. His book Probability, Intuition and Common Sense covers how the role of intuition and common sense is often diminished in decision making in professional contexts. This episode is co-hosted by returning guest Luca Dellanna. We discuss: the differences between studying probability and statistics; challenges in teaching probability and how to improve it; models with unallocated probability variables; the role and benefits of prediction markets; and the value, or limitations of base rate analysis. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Profesusionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This week in an Allocator’s Edge episode of the Value Perspective we’re joined by John Husselbee, Head of Multi-Asset at Liontrust. John last joined us for our Meet the Manager series and it’s good to have him back. With 38 years of experience, John is a seasoned fund manager and analyst, specialising in multi-asset, multi-manager funds. He leads a team managing target risk portfolios and bespoke investment solutions. Before joining Liontrust in 2013, John co-founded North Investment Partners and served as the Director of Multi-Manager Investments at Henderson Global Investors. In this episode we discuss: how John’s experience as an investor and business leader has shaped his career; the challenges of founding businesses in asset management today; the balance between active and passive strategies; and the role fees play in decision making. There is also insight from John’s work with leading investment managers over the years. Enjoy! Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Profesusionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This week on the Value Perspective podcast we’re delighted to bring together two leading practitioners, who sit at different ends of the Value investing spectrum, to discuss and debate their similarities and differences. The fascinating conversation, split over two episodes, features Nick Kirrage, Head of the Value Team at Schroders and Jacob Mitchell, Chief Investment Officer and Lead Portfolio Manager at Antipodes Partners. Antipodes is a global equities manager with a pragmatic approach to Value investing. The firm was founded in 2015 and has just over $6 billion in assets under management. It is headquartered in Sydney Australia and has an office in London. The episodes are hosted by Simon Evan-Cook, an award-winning multi-asset fund of funds manager and leading columnist with Citywire, who regularly posts on his blog, Never Mind the Silver Bullets. In this second episode, we delve deeper into Antipodes and Schroders’ portfolios, explore different areas of opportunity and how macro is navigated and how to find the right clients for your strategy. There’s also a frank discussion about each manager’s most painful mistakes, the lessons they have learned from them, and how Nick and Jacob’s approach to risk has evolved over time. Enjoy! Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Profesusionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This week on the Value Perspective podcast we’re delighted to bring together two leading practitioners, who sit at different ends of the Value investing spectrum, to discuss and debate their similarities and differences. The fascinating conversation, split over two episodes, features Nick Kirrage, Head of the Value Team at Schroders and Jacob Mitchell, Chief Investment Officer and Lead Portfolio Manager at Antipodes Partners. Antipodes is a global equities manager with a pragmatic approach to Value investing. The firm was founded in 2015 and has just over $6 billion in assets under management. It is headquartered in Sydney Australia and has an office in London. The episodes are hosted by Simon Evan-Cook, an award-winning multi-asset fund of funds manager and leading columnist with Citywire, who regularly posts on his blog, Never Mind the Silver Bullets. In this first episode, we cover where Schroders and Antipodes sit in the Value spectrum and how Nick and Jacob’s investment processes differ. We also delve into how each manager avoids the classic Value trap, and the lines that they won’t cross when building portfolios. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Profesusionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

Recently we attended the London Quality Growth Conference and we’ve put together a special quilt episode, featuring many of the key speakers at the event. One of the things we love about recording this podcast and attending this type of conference, is it gives us a chance to step outside of our usual circle and have conversations with people who think differently. Whether it’s Value, Growth or Quality it’s all investing at the end of the day, and hearing new perspectives sharpens our own thinking. We’re joined by an incredible line-up of investors and allocators from the Quality Growth world. You’ll hear from the likes of Nick Train, from Lindsell Train, Anthony Brenton, from Turtle Creek, Richard Warne, from Copia Capital, Christopher Rossbach, from J. Stern, Oliver Wayne, from Redington, Stephen Clapham, from Behind the Balance Sheet, David Shapiro, from Sustainable Growth Advisers, Fabio Cecutto, from Willis Towers Watson, Kunal Desai, from GIB Asset Management, Simon Brewer, from the Money Maze podcast, Stephen Yiu, from Blue Whale Capital, Stephanie Niven from Ninety One, and Ronald Chan, from Chartwell Capital. We think there’s something powerful about walking across the proverbial aisle and we hope you enjoy these conversations as much as we did. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Profesusionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This week we’re delighted to welcome Andrew Walker to the Value Perspective. Andrew is a portfolio manager at Rangeley Capital and the voice behind the popular podcast Yet Another Value Podcast. He authors a Substack under the same name. He is also a huge fantasy reader and has given us some of excellent book recommendations, that you’ll hear at the end of the episode. In the episode we discuss: Andrew’s take on whether the value investing philosophy is still alive and what it's like building a boutique firm based on that approach; the toughest challenges in investing from a behavioural standpoint; the one lasting behavioural edge that any investor can cultivate; how Andrew filters investment ideas, especially as someone who’s not your typical cigar butt investor; and finally, how he views communication with his investor base through his podcast, Substack and beyond, and how much comms is enough. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Profesusionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This episode is the second part of our conversation with Willian Green. William is the bestselling author of Richer, Wiser, Happier and one of the most respected voices in the world of investing. If you missed part one, we encourage you to check it out at we covered some thought-provoking topics, from the challenges of writing a new book to the value of independent thinking. This episode picks up right where we left off, continuing our dive into the wisdom Wiliam has gleaned over decades of interviewing some of the world’s greatest investors. We discuss the role of luck, not just in investing, but in life as a whole, and explore whether William would be interested in interviewing someone as polarising as Cathie Wood, an anti-value investor. Co-hosting again is Harald Berlinicke, a partner at Sarnia Asset Management and the investment manager for a family office. Harald’s extensive experience as an investor and his passion for sharing his experience on LinkedIn make him the perfect co-pilot for this episode. Together, we discuss everything from the importance of stoicism and the success of great investors, to the ongoing battle between active and passive management. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Profesusionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This week’s special episode features Willian Green, bestselling author of Richer, Wiser, Happier and the host of the podcast with the same name, which has featured some of the greatest minds in investing. Educated at Eton, William has been a journalist for decades and has had the privilege of sitting down with some of the most influential investment personalities of the last 30 years. He takes us on a deeply personal journey, filled with wisdom and anecdotes from his conversations with legendary value investors. In this episode we’re joined by a special co-host, Harald Berlinicke. Harald is a partner at Sarnia Asset Management as well as the investment manager for a family office. He’s also a very active volunteer and consultant of the CFA Institute and a prolific LinkedIn influencer. Harald is a long-time fan of William Green, and when William accepted our invitation, we knew we had to bring him on board. As a manager selector and an investor with over 30 years of experience, Harald’s unique perspective adds an extra layer of depth to our conversation. In the first of our two episodes, we explore the challenges of writing a new book, William’s focus on Value contrarian investors, and the importance of independent thinking. We also delve into his most challenging interviews in the investment world and discuss why being directionally correct is often more important than being absolutely right. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Profesusionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This week on the Value Perspective, we’re joined by a lovely but anonymous guest, who, for legal reasons, we’re going to call Lionel Hutz. Lionel is the author of the Substack Valorem Research, where he provides research for investors on uncorrelated legal special situations, covering issues such as merger arbitrage, patent litigation and international arbitration. By day, he is a legal expert who specialises in special situations. In this episode, we discuss: what legal special situations are and how you screen for these types of investment ideas; how to access legal special situations without a deep understanding of the US legal system; what legal situations tend to be most complex; accounting for the variable of time when looking at this type of investing; and finally, the game theory aspect involved in special situations investments. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

In this episode we welcome Andrew McDermott from Mission Value back to the Value Perspective. He’s here to help unpack the recent turmoil in the Japanese market that kicked off in early August. We discuss: whether anyone could have seen this coming; the concept of recency bias, especially during the latest downturn; strategies for managing portfolios in such extreme environments; the fascinating concept of convexity within equity investing; and finally the broader narrative around Chinese and Japanese equities. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

In this episode of the Value Perspective we welcome Andrew McDermott and Yohei Yamada from Mission Value. Mission Value specialises in the Japanese market, with over two decades of experience in a value investing philosophy. Their network includes legends like Martin Whitman, Peter Cundill, Richard Oldfield and even Warren Buffett, whom Andrew visited in Omaha to discuss Japanese companies. In this episode we cover: human biases in the Japanese market over the last 30 years; long cycles in value investing in Japan; challenging the belief that cigar butt investing in Japan doesn’t work; cultural and governance differences between Japan and western countries; and finally, communicating with clients and potential investors about the Japanese investment opportunity. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This week on the Value Perspective, we’re joined by Anthony Cheung, the Chief Content and Culture Officer at AmplifyME. AmplifyME provides financial simulations in markets, banking and technology while partnering with universities to enhance finance programmes and with financial institutions to recruit and upskill their graduate talent. Anthony is also the cohost of the Market Maker podcast. We sat down with Anthony to discuss: how he balances his research with short-term market noise; the question, would turning off the noise improve market outcomes; the role of artificial intelligence in modern markets and its impact on access to various strategies; how to cultivate a growth mindset so you can improve and execute in the context of markets; and finally, can resilience be learned. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This week, we're joined by Django Davidson from Hosking Partners. Django Davidson is a portfolio manager and a founding partner at Hosking Partners. After graduating from the University of Oxford, where he studied geography, Django joined Deutsche Bank and became a director at just 27 years old. Influenced by reading Berkshire Hathaway and Buffett partnership letters, Django transitioned to the buy-side, first joining Algebris before helping Jeremy Hosking establish Hosking Partners in 2013. Today, Hosking Partners manages approximately six billion in assets. In this episode, Juan and Andrew Williams chat with Django about his journey and the history behind Hosking Partners, the power of the capital cycles framework, how the framework addresses human biases and decision making, using the capital cycle mindset for value investing in active versus passive strategies, and finally, market environment considerations over the last five years. NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

This week on the Value Perspective, we’re joined by Cole Smead, the CEO and portfolio manager at Smead Capital. We recently caught up with Cole at the London Value Investor Conference. Smead Capital advises investors on building wealth through a low turnover value-focused approach. Cole is also the host of the podcast A Book with Legs, so be sure to add that to your listening list. In this episode we discuss: Cole’s journey with Smead Capital; how the firm’s checklist processes human biases and integrates them into their investment philosophy; the importance of communication in client engagement and how they ease investors’ concerns when it comes to difficult sectors; whether the shift towards passive investing has made markets less efficient; and finally, the business of running a value boutique like Smead Capital. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

We’re delighted to be joined by Chris Pavese for this episode of our Allocator’s Edge mini-series. Chris is the CEO and CIO of Broyhill Asset Management, a spin-off from the Broyhill family office. Chris is also the founder of the Broyhill book club. If you’re curious about the firm and the family, their website is a treasure trove of information. Chris is the perfect guest to provide a masterclass on family offices: what they are; and how they operate from an investment perspective. Before joining Broyhill, Chris worked for JP Morgan Private Bank, where he managed over $1 billion in discretionary assets for high-net-worth individuals, trusts, endowments and foundations. He was also an active member of JP Morgan’s trust investment committee, where he assisted in the construction of portfolios and monitoring the bank’s fiduciary relationships. He is a CFA charter holder and past President of the Board of the CFA Institute’s North Carolina Society. In this episode we cover: what a family office is and whether a family office is the ultimate institutional investor; how Chris looks at the investment landscape and the interaction between inflation and interest rates; how the Broyhill family thinks about performance; how the family’s entrepreneurial DNA survived over time and how this translates to how they think about investments within the family office and finally; what is the time horizon of the family office. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

In this episode of the ESG mini-series of the Value Perspective, we’re joined by Stephen Lezac, a senior leader at OxCarbon, a startup spun out of Oxford University in 2021. OxCarbon focuses on bringing transparency and solving issues around carbon credit offsets through a principles’ driven approach and academic peer review. Stephen, who leads OxCarbon’s carbon accounting team is also a PhD candidate at Cambridge, a researcher at the Oxford University Centre for the Environment, a Fellow at the Rocky Mountain Institute, and is a mentor for the non-profit youth group Post 58, which makes the outdoors accessible for underserved youth. He splits his time between Alaska and Cambridge. In this episode we discuss: the role of carbon offsets in decarbonising the world; the importance of concepts such as additionality, permanence, and leakage; challenges for transparency and accounting assumptions; the uncertainty in measurement and OxCarbon’s efforts to address it; and finally, new models being developed to replace carbon credits. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This week as part of the Allocator’s Edge mini-series of the Value Perspective, we have a masterclass in fund selection with two of the UK’s top fund selectors, Kelly Prior and Scott Spencer. With decades of experience, Kelly and Scott bring a wealth of knowledge from their roles at Columbia Threadneedle, BMO Global Asset Management and Credit Suisse. Together they offer over 45 years’ of expertise in fund research and portfolio management. In this episode, we: dive into the ABCs of fund selection; assessing new strategies; building a portfolio; the cardinal sins of fund selection; and finally, differentiating between confidence and arrogance in a fund manager. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

This week on the Value Perspective we welcome author and consultant Luca Dellanna as our guest.  Luca is the author of 10 books, but his latest on the topic of ergodicity has really caught our attention. Ergodicity is a revolutionary concept that challenges traditional thinking. It posits that by focusing on maximising short-term outcomes, we can ensure long-term success. Luca’s book breaks down this complex idea into an accessible and understandable format. Ergodicity is fundamentally about the impact of time on our decisions. Imagine deciding whether to invest all of your money in a high-risk stock that could either soar by 500% or plummet to zero. Ergodicity helps you to navigate such decisions and often leads to a profound shift in how we think about risk and reward. In this episode we discuss: why ergodicity is so difficult to understand and how it could be rebranded; why do we often forget about survival bias, even though we understand it; the pros and cons of Monte Carlo modelling; and finally, issues with other concepts like skin in the game. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

In this episode of our Allocator’s Edge mini-series we’re joined by Joe McDonnell, the CIO of Border to Coast Pensions Partnership, one of the UK’s largest pension pools. Joe’s career began in the 1990s on the sell side when he honed his skills and expertise in equities, derivatives and fixed income. He then spent a decade managing retirement funds for IBM and Shell, deepening his asset allocation knowledge. Joe then moved into asset management with roles at Morgan Stanley and Neuberger Berman before taking up his current role. In this episode, we discuss, what Border to Coast is; the impact of Joe’s experience with IBM and Shell; the main objectives of Border to Coast; managing stakeholder relationships for optimal investor outcomes; the balance between using external investment managers and in-house investment capabilities; and finally, facilitating decision making as a CIO across different teams. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This week we have a special live episode, recorded at the recent London Value Investment Conference. This annual event attracts Value investors from around the world to discuss and present on this investing style. The Value Perspective’s Juan Torres Rodriguez and Vera German opened this year’s conference with a discussion on emerging markets. In this episode we catch up with eleven attendees, including some familiar guests from previous episodes of the Value Perspective. We discuss the current state of the market, the future of value investing, the stocks they pitch, their firms, and more. We feature chats with Cole Smead from Smead Capital, Alex Roepers from Atlantic Investment Management, Simon Gergel from Allianz Global Investors, Sarah Ketterer from Causeway Capital Management, Jacob Mitchell from Antipodes Partners, Sean Peche from Ranmore, Andrew Fargus from Vintage Asset Management, Simon Evan-Cook from Downing Fund Managers, Django Davidson from Hosking Partners, Andrew McDermott from Mission Value Partners, and finally, Richard Oldfield. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

In this episode in our Allocator’s Edge series of the Value Perspective, we’re joined by Sonja Laud. Sonja is Chief Investment Officer (CIO) at Legal & General Investment Management (LGIM) where she leads the firm’s entire Investment and Trading teams, setting the firm’s Investment strategy, with a focus on leading LGIM’s responsible investment efforts. Before joining LGIM, Sonja held a range of senior positions at Fidelity International, Barings, Schroders and DWS. In this episode we discuss: identifying the best asset classes in today’s market; the role of alternatives and cash in asset allocation and diversification; evaluating the place of gold in the current financial landscape; managing concentration risk in a world dominated by a few stocks and narratives; and finally, the evolving role of sustainability in today’s markets. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

In this episode of the Value Perspective, we’re joined by the legendary founder, manager, entrepreneur and capital allocator Henry Engelhardt. Henry founded Admiral Group, a Welsh car insurance group that grew to be one of the largest and most entrepreneurial businesses of the last generation. He is also the author of Be a Better Boss: Learn to build great teams and lead any organization to success. In this episode we discuss: Is capital allocation skill innate or learned; the best decision making framework for long-term success; the necessity of having a target; keeping teams engaged in a remote work environment; and finally, Admiral’s early embrace of diversity and its impact and the current approach to DE&I. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

In this episode of the Value Perspective, we’re thrilled to be joined by the legendary Emerging Markets investor Mark Mobius. Mark founded Mobius Capital Partners in 2018 following a three-decade tenure at Franklin Templeton where he managed over $40 billion in Emerging Markets’ portfolios. This episode is co-hosted by Vera German and Jade Zhang, who is part of the Emerging Markets Team at Schroders and used to work for Mark. The episode delves into: Mark’s experience of the opening up of various markets including Russia; what’s changed and remained the same throughout his career; understanding company culture; the impact of AI on Emerging Markets development; and the concept of a new Cold War. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

In this episode in our Allocator’s Edge series of the Value Perspective, we’re joined by Chris Rule CEO of Local Pensions Partnership Investments, or LPPI, which oversees £25 billion in pension investments.  Chris has been with LPPI since 2016, starting as CIO before moving to his current role. Before that, he was CIO at London Pensions Fund Authority (LPFA) and before that he held several senior positions including Head of Alternatives at SEB Investment Management, as well as founding and co-managing the multi-strategy team whilst a Principal at Old Mutual Asset Managers. In this episode we discuss: how Chris met the challenge of asset allocation when he was taking over at LPPI; the balance between paying out and investing for growth; some decision making processes involved behind strategic asset allocation; how Chris selects the best external managers; and finally, the future of pooling. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

In this episode, we’re joined by Russell Napier. Fans of the pod will recall that Russell first appeared on TVP in 2021, so this is a warm welcome back. For those not familiar, Russell is an independent market strategist, financial historian, an author and the co-founder of the Library of Mistakes. If you find yourself in Edinburgh, the Library is well worth a visit - check out their website for further details. Juan and Russell explore what has changed in the world from a monetary point of view since his last appearance on TVP. They discuss what history has taught us about the state in which we find the world today, given the conflicts in Europe and the Middle East, but also what the current analysis is missing out on. They’ll reflect on Russell’s very well-timed prediction on inflation coming back, which he made in 2021, but also what is coming next. Finally, they analyse China’s need to further devalue its currency. Enjoy!

Welcome to Allocator’s Edge, a Value Perspective podcast mini-series where we will be engaging in conversations with some of the world’s top capital allocators. In this everchanging landscape of heightened inflation and interest rates, we aim to unravel how and why capital allocators make the decisions that they do. Join us as we explore the nuances between healthcare foundations, examining the impact of inflation on endowments and the strategic choices between share buybacks and dividends for pension schemes. In this miniseries we aim to shed light on the inner workings of capital allocation, helping both investment teams and listeners gain a better understanding of mandates, global interplay and the intricate dance between strategy and reality. New episodes of the Allocator’s Edge will be released on alternating Thursdays. In this episode we are joined by Chetan Ghosh. Chetan joined Schroders in 2022 as part of the Outsourced Chief Investment Officer (OCIO) Solutions team. You may recall our discussion on OCIO from our recent episode with Jim Dunn in the US. Today we’ll chat with Chetan about what that role looks like in the UK, including his aim to be the provider of choice for OCIO and Fiduciary Management Services. Before joining Schroders, Chetan was the CIO of Centrica’s pension scheme arrangements and the firm’s CIO for 12 years. There, his role covered investment strategy considerations, asset class and manager research, and liaison with investment advisors. Previous to Centrica, Chetan developed a fiduciary management offering at an asset manager, following his start as a pensions actuary. In this episode, Juan and Chetan sat down to discuss what is an OCIO; the challenges of the UK pension industry and all of its different schemes; caps on fees; runs to passives and the newest entrant on the scene – alternatives; how the gilts crisis impacts the industry and finally the impact of inflation.

In this episode in the Value Perspective ESG mini-series we’re joined by Kathryn Porter, founder of the consultant firm Watt-Logic. Kathryn started her career in the finance and energy sectors with a focus on structured products and new business development. She founded Watt-Logic in 2016 to advise energy companies across the EU and UK on how to best capture the commercial opportunities of the energy transition. She noted how traditional market frameworks in the sector are being rapidly replaced which enables new sources of income and threatens business models. In her spare time Kathryn is a trustee of the Kid’s Cookery School, an amazing charity that teaches cooking and nutrition skills to children across the UK and the Royal Choral Society, one of the leading amateur choirs in the country. In this episode, we discuss: the current landscape of the UK energy market and its main challenges; her views about wind and how her thoughts have changed over time; challenges to the UK grid when absorbing renewables; where UK energy policy stands today relative to the challenges faced by the energy transition debate; and finally, why she believes nuclear is the right strategy to move forward. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

In this episode of Allocator’s Edge on the Value Perspective we’re joined by Jim Dunn. Jim is the CEO of Verger Capital Management and has been with the firm since 2014. Prior to this Jim was Vice-President and Chief Investment Officer at Wake Forest University, responsible for investment of the University’s endowment, working capital and life income assets.  Verger caught our eye because they are an outsourced chief investment officer (OCIO) that exclusively serves non-profits including educational institutions, non-profit healthcare and community and cultural foundations. Verger was created by Jim at the Wake Forest University Office of Investments as a spin-off OCIO to serve other endowments and their client base has continued to grow ever since. We sat down with Jim to discuss: Verger’s fascinating history; how inflation impacts endowment economics; their 3P mantra – Protect, Perform and Provide; asset allocation based on reverse optimisation; his thoughts on volatility and liquidity inside an endowment mandate; and finally, how do you make sure you have the right decision-making environment. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

In this episode, we revisit a favourite pet topic of ours on the Value Perspective, special situation investments, especially those that are driven by human biases. Our guest this week is Jim Royal, author of The Zen of Thrift Conversions. In our conversation we focus on decision making in a particularly niche field in America - thrift banks, which are also known as mutualised bank conversions. We discuss: what thrifts are and what types of thrift there are; what human biases are at play in this arena; what motivates the management of a mutualised bank to convert to a public company; what is the alignment between insiders and outsiders in the IPO process; why are thrifts attractive compared to other financial services companies; and finally, the case for buying into second step thrift conversion. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

Welcome to a milestone episode for the Value Perspective podcast, marking our 100th episode. To help us celebrate, we’re delighted to be joined by Mark Walker for the latest instalment in our Allocator’s Edge mini-series, where we talk with some of the world’s top capital allocators. Mark is the CIO of Coal Pension Trustees Services (CPT), responsible for the £22bn of investments of the Mineworkers Pension Scheme and the British Coal Staff Superannuation Scheme. Prior to joining CPT, Mark was Managing Director and Global Chief Investment Officer of the Univest Company, Unilever’s internal investment group. The Univest Company oversees the investments of Unilever’s pension plans in over 40 countries. Mark joined Unilever from Mercer where he was a Partner and head of the London Investment Consulting Unit. In his busy schedule, Mark somehow finds time to act as an adviser to Arkadiko Partners and is a non-executive director at People’s Investment. He is also a member of the 300 Club and a Fellow of the Institute of Actuaries. Mark joined us to discuss: his career so far;  the history of CPT; the difference between working as a consultant and being the CIO of a large pension plan; the differing structures of CPT and Unilever’s pension plans; how he measures an investment’s performance; the importance of communication with shareholders; the difference in asset allocation between a text book and the real world; his views on climate change and the energy transition; and finally, his thoughts on Active vs Passive. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

This week we joined by Gary Sernovitz a Managing Director at Lime Rock, an oil and gas focused private equity firm, and the author of the Counting House, a novel about investment management. Gary started his career as an oil equity research analyst at Goldman Sachs before making the transition to the buy side. We’re delighted to have Gary on the podcast as we believe he is the first fiction writer that we have had on. His latest novel shines a light on what the university endowment world is like, how it operates, its different cultures, motivations and characters. While researching the novel, Gary spoke with Verger CEO Jim Dunn a future guest on the Value Perspective. In the episode, we discuss: Gary’s career journey; the research behind his novel; how an investor can differentiate themselves; the personalities and politics between decision makers; absolute returns vs relative; and finally, the ethical dilemmas faced by modern CIOs. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

Welcome to Allocator’s Edge, a Value Perspective podcast mini-series where we will be engaging in conversations with some of the world’s top capital allocators. In an environment of heightened inflation and interest rates, we aim to unravel how and why capital allocators make the decisions that they do. The series will shed light on the inner workings of capital allocation to help listeners gain a better understanding of mandates and the intricate dance between strategy and reality. New episodes of the Allocator’s Edge will be released on alternating Thursdays. In this episode we are joined by a previous Value Perspective guest, Dan Mikulskis. This time he joins us as the CIO of People's Partnership, provider of The People's Pension. Last time he appeared as a consultant at LCP. In his new role, Dan leads the investment team that oversees the investments of the members of the People’s Pension with an AUM currently sitting at £21 billion. We discuss: Dan’s transition from a consultant at LCP to his role as CIO of the People’s Pension; the main challenges faced by the UK pensions industry today; the differences between theory and reality when it comes to capital allocation; how Dan’s decision making framework has changed and how he is thinking about a world with higher inflation and higher interest rates; and finally, how Dan is thinking about risk and the probabilistic nature of investing. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

This week we welcome Merryn Somerset Webb to the Value Perspective podcast. Merryn is a columnist at Bloomberg and a host of their podcast Merryn Talks Money. Previously to Bloomberg she was the Editor in Chief at MoneyWeek following brokerage stints at SBC Warburg in Tokyo and BNP Paribas in London. She is also the bestselling author of two books on personal investing. Sean Peche returns to co-host the episode with Juan Torres-Rodriguez. They sat down to discuss Merryn’s thoughts on value investing over the last decade; the awakening of nuclear energy and the backstage politics of the nuclear industry in the UK; low fees and the debate of passive vs active; Merryn’s thoughts on pension life styling and its risks; and finally what Merryn would do if she was in charge of the London Stock Exchange and the Treasury. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

Welcome to Allocator’s Edge, a Value Perspective podcast mini-series where we will be engaging in conversations with some of the world’s top capital allocators. In an environment of heightened inflation and interest rates, we aim to unravel how and why capital allocators make the decisions that they do. The series will shed light on the inner workings of capital allocation to help listeners gain a better understanding of mandates and the intricate dance between strategy and reality. New episodes of the Allocator’s Edge will be released on alternating Thursdays. In this episode we look at some of the challenges currently facing the pensions industry in the UK and Europe. We’re joined by Peter Ward and Eilert Hinrichs from L.E.K. Consulting. L.E.K. Consulting is a world-class strategy consulting firm with over 40 years’ experience advising companies. Its expertise includes corporate strategy, M&A, operations, and organisational performance. Both Peter and Eilert have over twenty years’ experience in advising investors and leaders in the financial services sector. In this episode we cover: what the landscape for the defined benefit (DB) and defined contribution (DC) industry looks like in the UK; whether Peter and Eilert think DB in the UK is dead; how Insurance is participating in the de-risking of the DB space; Peter and Eilert’s outlook for Europe; and finally the findings and implications of a survey on the cost of ESG amongst different age groups in the UK. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

In this instalment of our ESG series we welcome back a previous guest, Doomberg. We sat down with the green chicken to discuss what has happened in the eighteen months since we last had them on the show: why they moved to Substack and decided to leave X, formerly known as Twitter; changes in perceptions and narratives relating to ESG; the resurgence of nuclear and why it has a strong momentum this time; oil’s current and immediate future; AI’s role in the energy transition; and finally some comments on the geopolitical landscape. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.  

Welcome to Allocator’s Edge, a Value Perspective podcast mini-series where we will be engaging in conversations with some of the world’s top capital allocators. In an environment of heightened inflation and interest rates, we aim to unravel how and why capital allocators make the decisions that they do. The series will shed light on the inner workings of capital allocation to help listeners gain a better understanding of mandates and the intricate dance between strategy and reality. New episodes of the Allocator’s Edge will be released on alternating Thursdays. In this first episode, we welcome Greg Schuler, CIO of Geisinger, a regional healthcare foundation in the US. Greg started out in the oil and gas industry, which he credits with helping him shape his view on risk. He then moved into venture capital during the tech bubble, another formative influence on his current outlook. After this he took a series of CIO roles: first with Jerry Kohlberg, one of the Ks in KKR; then BJC, a large hospital system in Missouri; then as CIO of the University of Pittsburgh endowment; before starting at Geisinger. The episode is hosted by Andy Evans, a fund manager on Schroders’ Global Value Team. Andy co-manages UK Income, European Income, European Recovery, and European Sustainable strategies. Greg and Andy discuss: what Geisinger is and how it was set up; what cashflow requirements look like for a hospital foundation and how they differ from a university; how Greg thinks about time in the fundamentals of the assets Geisinger are looking to materialise; the importance of communication with your investment committee; and how to apply the way surfers understand waves to how we invest. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

We kick off 2024 with a fun episode featuring some of our favourite guests.  Author and Director of Research at St James Place, Joe Wiggins, plays host and moderator in a Quality vs Value debate between Simon Hallett, the former CIO of Harding Loevner and owner of Plymouth Argyle football club, and Andy Evans, a portfolio manager at Schroders. The episode explores how two different investors think about markets and assets, the pain points in being a Quality or Value investor and the temperament you need for each style. The debate covers: how Simon and Andy define their own way of investing; how to assess a manager’s style by looking at their top 10 holdings as well as their emotional reactions; difficulties in extending time horizons; how each manager would manage money on the other side of the style spectrum; and finally how to deal with an investable universe that has become unusually expensive and whether to compromise on quality or valuation. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

In the final Value Perspective podcast of 2023 our guest is Ian Lance, a UK value fund manager at  Redwheel (formerly ‘RWC Partners’). Before joining Redwheel, he was a fund manager here at Schroders, where he worked very closely with Nick Purves. Nick Purves was a mentor to Nick Kirrage and Kevin Murphy in their early careers and coined a saying that has been passed on to every value investor at Schroders, that if no companies in a portfolio are going bankrupt on a yearly basis, then you’re not taking enough risk. While working at Schroders in 2010, Ian had the very bright idea to start a blog that went on to become the Value Perspective. Ian discusses with us; what it was like to work with Nick Purves at the start of the Value Perspective; what has changed and what has stayed the same in the City of London over his four-decade career; co-management and the risk of confirmation bias; what is the most difficult thing about value investing in today’s market; and finally, is the UK a dead asset class? Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. This information is not an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any financial instrument or to adopt any investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data. Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. Any references to securities, sectors, regions and/or countries are for illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions contained herein are those of individual to whom they are attributed, and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other communications, strategies or funds. The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. Exchange rate changes may cause the value of any overseas investments to rise or fall. Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated. The forecasts included should not be relied upon, are not guaranteed and are provided only as at the date of issue. Our forecasts are based on our own assumptions which may change.

This week we welcome value investing heavyweight Mohnish Pabrai to the Value Perspective. Mohnish is the founder and Managing Partner of Pabrai Investment Funds, the founder of the Dakshana Foundation, a close friend of Warren Buffet, and a frequent bridge opponent of Charlie Munger. He joins us to discuss how his father’s entrepreneurialism shaped his understanding of risk; his commitment to giving everything away to Dakshana during his lifetime following the great example of Chuck Feeney; the rationale behind cloning as a strategy; why he never went for the insurance model; and concentration and ergodicity. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. This information is not an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any financial instrument or to adopt any investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data. Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. Any references to securities, sectors, regions and/or countries are for illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions contained herein are those of individual to whom they are attributed, and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other communications, strategies or funds. The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. Exchange rate changes may cause the value of any overseas investments to rise or fall. Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated. The forecasts included should not be relied upon, are not guaranteed and are provided only as at the date of issue. Our forecasts are based on our own assumptions which may change.  

As we near the end of the ten-year birthday celebrations of the Schroder Value Team we welcome two guests who were with us at the beginning of those ten years. Jamie Lowry and Ian Kelly are former members of the Value Team at Schroders, who departed to work for Prem Watsa, known as the Canadian Warren Buffett, managing the European investment book of Fairfax Financial. They left a lasting legacy with the Value Team with one of Ian’s TVP pieces, Hot Iron Trial by Ordeal: A Thirteenth Century Lesson for Investors, remaining one of our most read articles for many years after his departure. Kevin Murphy is the host for this episode, which covers: the journey from Schroders’ Value Team to Fairfax Financial; the difference between working for a long only fund and investing as part of a large insurance organisation; underperformance as part of a value team within an insurance company during the very tough years of 2019 and 2020; the beliefs they formed during their time with the Value Team and how these have been tested working at Fairfax Financial; and finally, their thoughts on private versus public investments. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. This information is not an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any financial instrument or to adopt any investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data. Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. Any references to securities, sectors, regions and/or countries are for illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions contained herein are those of individual to whom they are attributed, and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other communications, strategies or funds. The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. Exchange rate changes may cause the value of any overseas investments to rise or fall. Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated. The forecasts included should not be relied upon, are not guaranteed and are provided only as at the date of issue. Our forecasts are based on our own assumptions which may change.  

This week on the Value Perspective, we’re delighted to be joined by Joe Peta. Joe is the author of Moneyball for the Money Set, which explains how techniques gleaned from sport analytics can help to predict the returns of portfolio managers with startling accuracy. Before putting pen to paper, Joe started his career at Lehman Brothers before moving to Nomura. He then moved over to the buy side, working for Novus Partners, Kingsford Capital Management and Point72. To chat with Joe, Andy Evans from the Value Team is joined by Robert Donald, Chief Investment Officer of Schroder GAIA Helix. Robert’s quant skills make him an ideal co-presenter for this episode. Robert, like Joe started on the sell side as an equity analyst before moving to GLG Partners where he ran a long-short strategy. He also worked for Soros Fund Management and Brummer and Partners before joining us as Schroders in 2017. In this episode we discuss: Joe’s method for breaking down performance in a way that assesses skill, including hit rates, explosiveness, magnitude, scaling, and sizing; parallels with sports analytics and applicability for assessing skills for different types of investors; Goddard’s Law; Managers’ deficiency at sizing decisions; and finally, prediction tools and predicting power. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. This information is not an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any financial instrument or to adopt any investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data. Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. Any references to securities, sectors, regions and/or countries are for illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions contained herein are those of individual to whom they are attributed, and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other communications, strategies or funds. The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. Exchange rate changes may cause the value of any overseas investments to rise or fall. Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated. The forecasts included should not be relied upon, are not guaranteed and are provided only as at the date of issue. Our forecasts are based on our own assumptions which may change.  

The 2023 Rugby World Cup final is set as South Africa take on New Zealand for glory on Saturday 28 October in Paris. So, we thought this would be great time to replay the Value Perspective episode that we recorded with professional rugby referee Wayne Barnes back in 2021. Wayne will be in the thick of the action in Paris this weekend as he has been honored with selection as the match referee for the final.  But back in 2021 we spoke to him when the Lions were in the midst of their South Africa tour. You'll hear how Wayne and his team prepare for matches, the unique pressure of making decisions in a very public setting and how his training as a barrister has helped him be a better referee. Enjoy!   EPISODE NOTES: 1:07 Intro 2:33 Who are the Lions?  3:06 How did Wayne start in reffing?  7:32 How do you structure your decision making as a referee?  12:55 How does referee preparation affect the flow of a game? 18:06 How do you tackle ambiguity in the rules of rugby? 22:09 For referees, their decisions are broadcast in real time through a stadium and on television. How does that environment affect decision making? 25:13 How do you work with other referees during a game? 29:45 How do you allow the context of the game to affect your decision making? 34:48 How is referring held accountable? 39:25 The France v Wales game from the Six Nations 47:35 Who is the hardest player you’ve had to ref? 50:35 Do you segment yourself as a rugby referee from yourself as a rugby fan? 55:56 Book Recommendations   Book Recommendations: Rebel Allocator by Jake Taylor Sooley by John Grisham Belonging: the Ancient Code of Togetherness by Owen Eastwood   NEW EPISODES: You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. This information is not an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any financial instrument or to adopt any investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data. Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. Any references to securities, sectors, regions and/or countries are for illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions contained herein are those of individual to whom they are attributed, and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other communications, strategies or funds. The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. Exchange rate changes may cause the value of any overseas investments to rise or fall. Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated. The forecasts included should not be relied upon, are not guaranteed and are provided only as at the date of issue. Our forecasts are based on our own assumptions which may change.  

This week on the Value Perspective, we are joined by value stalwart Richard Oldfield. Richard founded Oldfield Partners in 2004, where he managed global funds until 2016, before finally retiring from the firm in 2021. Richard started his career back in the 70s at Warburg Investment Management, which later became Mercury Asset Management. Then he had a stint at a family office before founding Oldfield Partners. He is also the author of Simple but not Easy: a Practitioners Guide to the Art of Investing. The second edition of this book was printed in 2021 after a very successful first run back in 2007. Richard is joined by Simon Adler from the Value Team to discuss: Richard’s learnings over his 30 year career; what can be done in today’s markets to instill a long term view of performance; risk defined as permanent loss of capital or active risk; how much should one hold in Value at any one point in time; and finally, Richard’s experience outside of fund management and how that helped him throughout his career as a fund manager. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. This information is not an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any financial instrument or to adopt any investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data. Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. Any references to securities, sectors, regions and/or countries are for illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions contained herein are those of individual to whom they are attributed, and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other communications, strategies or funds. The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. Exchange rate changes may cause the value of any overseas investments to rise or fall. Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated. The forecasts included should not be relied upon, are not guaranteed and are provided only as at the date of issue. Our forecasts are based on our own assumptions which may change.  

In this episode of our Value Perspective ESG mini-series we’re joined by Arvind Sanger, founder and Managing Director of a hedge fund that focuses on sensible energy transition. We share a mutual friend with Arvind in former guest Arjun Murti. We sat down with Arvind to discuss: what has changed in the energy and material markets in the thirty plus years of his career; how the uranium market works; uranium’s demand and supply impact on the nuclear power sector; and finally nuclear’s main challenges, based on another recent piece on the matter by another former past guest Robert Brice. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. This information is not an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any financial instrument or to adopt any investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data. Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. Any references to securities, sectors, regions and/or countries are for illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions contained herein are those of individual to whom they are attributed, and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other communications, strategies or funds. The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. Exchange rate changes may cause the value of any overseas investments to rise or fall. Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated. The forecasts included should not be relied upon, are not guaranteed and are provided only as at the date of issue. Our forecasts are based on our own assumptions which may change.

This week we're replaying a podcast episode with Carson Block, founder of Muddy Waters Research, from June 2022. Carson joined us to discuss the contentious topic of short selling. Short selling is an investment or trading strategy that speculates on the decline in a stock or other security’s price. Carson takes an activist approach to short selling, founded on exposing fraudulent practices in publicly traded companies. This challenges the view that short selling, by its nature, is an exploitative practice. We talked to Carson about the probabilistic thinking and psychological framework needed by a contrarian thinker as well as the cross disciplinary collaboration that lies behind exposing unethical financial practices. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. This information is not an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any financial instrument or to adopt any investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data. Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. Any references to securities, sectors, regions and/or countries are for illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions contained herein are those of individual to whom they are attributed, and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other communications, strategies or funds. The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. Exchange rate changes may cause the value of any overseas investments to rise or fall. Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated. The forecasts included should not be relied upon, are not guaranteed and are provided only as at the date of issue. Our forecasts are based on our own assumptions which may change  

This week in the final episode of our Meet the Manager series to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Value Team at Schroders, Tobias Carlisle returns to interview the steadfast host of the Value Perspective, Juan Torres Rodriguez. You may know Tobias as the host of the Acquirer’s Multiple Podcast, from the Value: After Hours Podcast or indeed as a frequent guest on this podcast. He is a deep value investor at heart and is the founder of Acquirers Funds. He is also a frequent author on the topic having published four books and has a new one out soon, so keep your eyes peeled. Juan is the host of the Value Perspective but he is also an emerging markets value investor at Schroders and has been with the company since 2017. Previous to Schroders he had stints at Pictet, Credit Suisse and Bank Columbia. In their conversation, Tobias and Juan focus on emerging markets. They cover: Juan’s journey from Columbia to the Value Team in London; emerging markets’ tough decade and what it means to be a value investor in these markets; cyclical businesses and the opportunity set in emerging markets; and finally how the Value Team embraces behavioural biases and has built a process to help cope with them. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. This information is not an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any financial instrument or to adopt any investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data. Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. Any references to securities, sectors, regions and/or countries are for illustrative purposes only. The views and opinions contained herein are those of individual to whom they are attributed, and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other communications, strategies or funds. The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested. Exchange rate changes may cause the value of any overseas investments to rise or fall. Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated. The forecasts included should not be relied upon, are not guaranteed and are provided only as at the date of issue. Our forecasts are based on our own assumptions which may change.