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A master-class in personal and professional development, ultra-athlete, wellness evangelist and bestselling author Rich Roll delves deep with the world's brightest and most thought provoking thought leaders to educate, inspire and empower you to unleash your best, most authentic self. More at: https://richroll.com
Master of Change: Brad Stulberg On Rugged Flexibility & The Neuroscience Of Expectations
From global disruptions to individual life changes, transformation—both good and bad—is happening constantly.
Here to offer us a path for embracing life’s inherent instability is Brad Stulberg—a sustainable excellence expert, human performance coach, and bestselling author returning for his fourth appearance on the pod.
Today we talk about how to embrace transformation, cultivate resilience, and adapt to an ever-changing world. We also explore rugged flexibility, tragic optimism, adopting a flexible identity over time, how to navigate big life changes successfully, the perils of biohacking, and many other fascinating topics.
Amidst the chaos and confusion of self-help, I find Brad to be a principled voice of reason. This conversation is overflowing with evidence-based, practical, and actionable life counsel.
My hope is that some of the tactics shared help you not only navigate difficult circumstances but help facilitate the emergence of meaning and growth.
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02:25:3128/08/2023
Osher Günsberg Is Back After The (Psychotic) Break
Even in the darkest moments, there exists the potential for redemption, rebuilding, and the reclamation of one’s life.
Today’s guest is a living embodiment of this truth.
Meet Osher Günsberg—one of the most celebrated television hosts and media personalities in Australia.
Longtime listeners may recall Osher’s first appearance on the podcast over nine years ago (episode #76) where we discussed his journey to the big stage and his transformation from being a chubby kid to a plant-powered, marathon-running host of Australian Idol. Shortly after that conversation, Osher experienced a public psychotic breakdown that left him terrified, distressed and convinced the world was coming to an end. But rather than hide this experience and internalize his struggles with his mental health and substance abuse, Osher bravely began to talk openly about his recovery.
Today he shares that terrifying experience in vivid detail, what happened, how he clawed his way back to sanity, and the hard-earned lessons he’s garnered along the way—which you can also read about in his powerful memoir, Back, After The Break.
Note: Today we discuss suicidal thoughts and ideation. If that subject is too confronting, perhaps skip this episode. If you are struggling, please raise your hand and reach out for help. You can call SAMHSA’s National Helpline at 1-800-662-HELP and if you are experiencing suicidal ideation, I encourage you to call the Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1 (800) 273-TALK.
Osher demonstrated a huge amount of courage and vulnerability to share his story.
My hope is that his narrative serves as a powerful reminder that taking responsibility for your mental health is crucial, and the bravest thing you can do is ask for help.
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02:14:5924/08/2023
A World Champion Athlete & Oscar-Nominated Writer on Mindset, Performance & Persistence
With over 400 triathlons to her name, today's guest Lesley Paterson is a 3x XTERRA Triathlon World Champion and 2x World Triathlon Cross Champion.
But if you asked about her greatest test of endurance, it wouldn’t be a race. It would be chasing an Oscar.
For 16 years during her professional triathlon career, Lesley fought to secure and maintain the film rights to All Quiet on the Western Front out of her own pocket from race winnings. She wrote and rewrote the script, and despite the odds stacked heavily against her, never gave up on her dream of getting the movie made.
After many years of starts and stops the film was finally released and took home four Oscars and seven BAFTAs—including one for best-adapted screenplay (this was Lesley’s first screenplay might I add). All of which is a testament to her patience, discipline, and hard work.
Lesley’s relentless persistence is the focus of today’s conversation, along with the importance of self-belief, playing the long game, and the ‘never quit’ drive required to crush audacious goals.
Delightful, engaging, and strong, I adore Lesley. There’s a lot to learn from this fiery Scottish lassie.
Note: If you like this exchange, be sure to check out her book The Brave Athlete, which is packed with actionable practices to build an endurance mindset.
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02:29:3321/08/2023
Food Is Medicine: Christopher Gardner, PHD On Using Diet To Prevent Disease
Here to guide us toward an evidence-based, rational model for nutritional health and teach us how to distinguish good nutrition science is one of the world’s leading and most innovative researchers, Christopher Gardner, Ph.D.
Dr. Gardner is the Director of Nutrition Studies at the Stanford Prevention Research Center and a Rehnborg Farquhar Professor of Medicine at Stanford University. He's been researching the health effects of a plant-based diet for 20 years, and his research has provided significant and practical health insights to better inform our everyday dietary decisions.
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What we know and don’t know about diet, weight loss, obesity, diabetes, heart & metabolic health;
the diet wars: plant-based vs. carnivore vs. Mediterranean & low-fat vs. low carb;
common misconceptions about protein requirements;
the importance of personalized nutrition and finding a sustainable diet for long-term success;
what makes a rigorous scientific study and why knowing a study’s funding source is important;
what defines a healthy microbiome; and
why diet is the most under-appreciated, underutilized factor in preventing disease.
Dr. Gardner is an absolute delight. It was an honor to spend time with him. I hope you find his insights clarifying, informative, actionable—and perhaps even life-saving.
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02:34:1314/08/2023
ROLL ON is… ON! (+Chris Evans)
Welcome to ‘Roll On’—the semi-regular version of the podcast where we ramble on matters of interest across culture, sports, art, literature, politics, self-betterment, and more. My co-host is Mr. Adam Skolnick, an activist, veteran journalist, author of One Breath, and David Goggins’ Can’t Hurt Me and Never Finished co-author. Adam writes about adventure sports, environmental issues, and civil rights for outlets such as The New York Times, Outside, ESPN, BBC, and Men’s Health.
Today we exchange updates on personal goings on, discuss listener questions, welcome UK radio legend Chris Evans to the table, and share the whys and hows of my new creative partnership with Swiss sportswear brand On.
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02:16:1110/08/2023
Baratunde Thurston On Social Media Perils, Institutional Distrust & Why Empathy Is The Solution To Our Political Divide
Today's podcast guest is Baratunde Thurston—an Emmy-nominated writer, comedian, and cultural critic focused on the intersection of tech, democracy, climate change, and race in America.
A generational voice in the media landscape, Baratunde is a former executive at The Onion, a writer for Puck News, the New York Times bestselling author of How To Be Black, and the host of both America Outdoors on PBS, and the podcast How To Citizen.
Today we cover everything from the impact of technology and social media on society to the current perils of our democratic system. We also discuss the need for diversity and representation in media, the importance of community and belonging, nuanced conversation, and responsible media practices. We also address the rapid evolution of our media landscape and our declining trust in institutions across the country, what it means to be black in America, and how we can all become more active and informed citizens.
I’ve been a fan of Baratunde and his work for many years. He is a witty and masterful storyteller and someone I respect for fearlessly confronting difficult problems with actionable solutions, enthusiasm, and consensus building.
This one is powerful.
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01:57:5907/08/2023
Kai Lenny: The World's Most Versatile Surfer On Adventure, Risk, & Turning Fear Into Fuel
Kai Lenny is the greatest and most versatile waterman the world has ever known.
A Maui-born and bred athlete of extraordinary skill, he pushes the boundaries of possibility at the highest levels in not just surfing—performing maneuvers and aerials never believed possible with regularity—but also as a kiteboarder, foiler, outrigger canoer, and as big wave rider.
Kai doesn’t just ride the world’s most fearsome waves—he conquers them. Like a maestro of the ocean who channels nature’s ferocity into art, he carves down 80-foot plus cliffs of water with physics-defying maneuvers previously thought only possible on small waves with a flair, joy, and an intensity that can only be described as balletic. He’s the GOAT and he’s here today to let us in on his crazy world, the visualization and mindset tools he uses to hone his craft, and what the future holds both for himself and the sport of surfing.
There’s a lot to be learned from Kai’s experience, his pursuit of mastery, and his approach to physical, mental, and emotional excellence.
I hope you enjoy this one as much as I did.
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02:21:2331/07/2023
Tim Ferriss Is Changing His Mind: Mental Health, Psychedelics, & Transcending Productivity
A relentless experimenter and master of productivity, Tim Ferriss is the mega-best-selling author of The 4-Hour Work Week, Tools of Titans, and Tribe of Mentors. He’s also the host of the wildly popular Tim Ferriss Show—where he deconstructs the tools, mindsets, and practices of world-class performers across business, sports, and more.
While Tim is known and revered for his wisdom regarding optimization and productivity, it’s his arc as a human that impresses me the most. He’s been through a lot. He’s grown considerably. And he’s shared his personal and professional struggles with a laudable degree of courage and vulnerability.
Today’s exchange centers on Tim’s inward journey. How he grapples with anxiety and depression. The ways he learned to face difficult emotions. And the various modalities he has explored from silent meditation and psychotherapy to psychedelics.
I hope you find this conversation helpful, and that it reframes how you think about, manage, confront, and heal your own emotional wounds.
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02:17:0127/07/2023
Judd Apatow On Comedy, Creativity, And Embracing Your Inner Weirdo
One of the most acclaimed filmmakers of his generation, today Judd Apatow graces the podcast to discuss his fascinating perspective on filmmaking, storytelling, creativity, and more.
From directing This Is 40, Knocked Up, and The 40-Year-Old Virgin, to serving as producer for Anchorman and executive producer for Freaks and Geeks, Judd has made an indelible mark on Hollywood.
Today we unpack the experiences, philosophies, and strategies that have shaped him into the unparalleled creator he is today. We explore his creative process, his approach to storytelling, the lessons he’s learned from working with some of the biggest names in the business, and how he pays it forward.
This conversation left me with a newfound appreciation of comedy not only as an art form—but as a powerful means of grappling with the complexities of the human experience.
I hope you enjoy this one as much as I did.
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02:19:0324/07/2023
Spiritual Minimalism, Purpose, & Living A More Fulfilling Life With Light Watkins
Light Watkins is an expert meditation and spiritual teacher who gave up all his earthly possessions five years ago (save what he could fit into a small backpack) and proceeded to travel the world giving talks on happiness, mindfulness, inspiration, and meditation.
Today he shares lessons learned from this experience, imparting wisdom that is equal parts profound and hyper-practical on how to prioritize and cultivate inner happiness, the importance of presence, following your curiosity, the joy of giving what you want to receive, and something he calls the “freedom of choicelessness” that declutters your life decisions.
I love Light. He is a wise and gifted teacher. My sense is that this conversation will leave you with more than a few life-altering profundities to ponder and practice.
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02:06:0317/07/2023
Decoding Transformation: Contrary Action Is The Engine of Evolution
One of the first questions I was asked when I found myself in a treatment center for alcoholism was: do you want to change?
Most sane individuals in my circumstances would respond of course I do. But only a mentally deranged addict like myself would need to pause before answering to consider the options. Luckily, I was blessed with pain so severe it eclipsed the very real fear I held about changing every facet of who I was as a person to get and stay sober. While in many ways pain makes the process of change easier, the truth is you don’t have to hit rock bottom to make a transformation. Change is always within your grasp if you can summon the willingness to ask for it—and most importantly, receive it.
Today I venture out of my comfort zone once again to explore some thoughts on transformation in monologue format—sharing intimate details from my own personal story of addiction and lessons learned within the walls of rehab—in a podcast experiment I hope provides value.
Transformation demands a price—accountability, courage, vulnerability, and the willpower to take contrary actions to those you’ve taken historically. But the outcome?
A life beyond your wildest imagination.
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27:2113/07/2023
Heal Your Gut: Dr. Alan Desmond On Optimizing Your Microbiome Through Plants
As rates of chronic disease continue to rise, What should I eat? has become one of the most important questions we can ask ourselves.
Here to help us cut through the morass of diet confusion to provide clear and actionable counsel is the very wise and articulate Dr. Alan Desmond. Certified in both Gastroenterology and General Internal Medicine, Alan is a gut health expert specializing in the role diet plays in the prevention and treatment of digestive diseases—more specifically the overall health benefits, of a whole-food plant-centric approach to nutrition.
Today he teaches us how we can harness the power of a healthy gut and optimize our overall well-being by simply eating more plants. We dive into the nitty-gritty of the microbiome, its relationship to digestive health, and the fundamentals of a healthy diet—in other words, what to eat and what to avoid.
My hope is that this conversation leaves you with the information, strategies, and protocols you need to adopt better nutrition habits with staying power—because health isn’t a diet, it’s a lifestyle.
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01:51:5510/07/2023
Elite Endurance Athlete Cam Wurf On Sustainable Training Strategies And How To Unlock Your Athletic Potential
The shapeshifter of elite endurance sports, today’s guest is by far one of the world’s most remarkable all-around athletes.
Meet Cam Wurf, an Aussie who has distinguished himself at the highest, most elite level, in three distinct sports.
First in rowing where he represented Australia in the 2004 Athens Olympics. He then turned to professional cycling as a super domestique for Team Sky and now INEOS, where he played a crucial role in supporting guys like Chris Froome and Geraint Thomas, serving as a secret weapon to their Tour de France victories. Cam has simultaneously distinguished himself at the highest level of Ironman triathlon, collecting wins at IM Wales and IM Australia, and is most well known for setting and holding (until this past year) the bike course record at the IMWC in Kona.
He can train and race with the best professional cyclists in the world, set bike course records at the world’s most prestigious Ironmans, and even run a 2:45 marathon after a 2.4 mile swim and 112-mile bike. He doesn’t seem to ever get tired. He absolutely loves training. And he’s always smiling.
So who is this guy?
Like you, I have so many questions. And today Cam is here to answer them with an infectious enthusiasm I wish I could bottle.
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02:32:2703/07/2023
Built To Move: Kelly & Juliet Starrett On Functional Strength, Mobility, And Falling In Love With Movement
How do we move with ease? Maintain flexibility as we age? And how do we counteract the physical effects of technology dependence, sedentary living, and other modern ways of life?
Here to help us answer these important questions are movement experts and co-authors of Built To Move Kelly & Juliet Starrett.
Dr. Kelly Starett is a globally renowned physical therapist and strength coach who consults with athletes from the NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB the US Olympic Team—along with elite Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard forces. Juliet is a 3-time white water rafting world champion and CEO of The Ready State, the mobility coaching company they founded together.
Today we cover everything from pain management to ideal recovery and post-workout practices, the essential elements of a home gym, and easy ways to change sedentary habits and integrate more movement into your daily life.
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02:48:2526/06/2023
A Masterclass On Movement & Mobility
Movement is inherent to our nature. It’s not a chore, a box to tick, or an obligation—we’re born to physically connect with the world around us in whatever capacity we can.
The eighth in our ongoing series of deep dives, in today’s masterclass you’ll learn how to start a movement practice, the importance of mobility exercises, proper running and walking techniques, how to maintain and even improve your mobility as you age, pre and post-natal fitness, how to set and achieve your movement goals, and more.
When we embrace movement, even in the smallest ways, we open the door to a world of possibilities. In my case, a walk led to a run which led to ultra-endurance racing and ultimately, to an entirely new life altogether.
My hope is that this masterclass gives you the education and inspiration you need to adopt a form of movement that brings you joy, a mobility routine that nourishes your body, and that you discover something new about yourself, your purpose, and your meaning along the way.
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01:43:3122/06/2023
Do The Work: NBA Superstar Chris Paul On Mastery, Mentorship, Leadership & Sustained Excellence
Chris Paul is one of the greatest basketball players of all time: a 12-time NBA All-Star, an All-Star Game MVP, 2-time Olympic gold medalist. NBA Rookie of the Year, and Players Association President between 2013 - 2021. Off the court, Chris is a family man, entrepreneur, activist, and philanthropist. His new book "Sixty-One" hits bookstores everywhere this week.
This is a conversation about work-ethic, grit, mentorship, and leadership. We discuss his grandfather's impact on his life, the demands of mastery, how to sustain elite performance over time, what leadership means, how Chris' plant-based diet has improved his performance, and the many ways Chris has leveraged his voice, platform, and resources for maximum social impact. It was an absolute pleasure and honor to talk with a man I respect tremendously. I hope you enjoy this powerful and valuable episode.
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02:03:4919/06/2023
The Multiplicity of the Mind: Dr. Richard Schwartz On A Systems Approach to Healing the Self
How do we become more integrated and healed humans? Answering these questions is the life’s work of today’s guest Dr. Richard Schwartz, a psychotherapist who created a very interesting and effective therapeutic modality called Internal Family Systems (or IFS). IFS is premised on the idea that every person has different “parts” within them, each with its own unique characteristics and functions, separate from one’s true or core Self. Furthermore, emotional healing and greater well-being can be experienced by bringing these various parts into harmony with each other—integrating them, if you will—in a process many have found transformative.
Dr. Schwartz has been practicing and teaching IFS for decades and has authored several books on the subject, including, You Are The One You’ve Been Waiting For and No Bad Parts. This episode covers many fascinating topics, including the fundamentals of IFS and how it works, Dr. Schwartz’s ‘many parts’ multiplicity of mind model, how to deal with our inner critic, how IFS operates to address addiction, trauma, and depression, and more.
This episode culminates in Dr. Schwartz illustrating his process by taking me (albeit a bit reluctantly) through a fairly intense psychological exercise I hope you find informative. Dr. Schwartz’s work is deeply fascinating, and this conversation has stuck with me. My hope is that this exchange inspires you to do the internal work required to live a more integrated and purpose-driven life.
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02:00:4312/06/2023
Guru Singh Is The Master Of Change: Spiritual Tools For Positive Self-Growth
Buckle up because today, we are jetting across the universe, exploring metaphysical truths big and small, and getting granular on the spiritual laws of growth and transformation. At the helm of our starship is the legendary Guru Singh—a master of the Kundalini arts who presides over Kundalini University. He is a celebrated master spiritual teacher, third-generation Sikh yogi, author, accomplished musician, father, grandfather, and gift to humanity at large who has been teaching and studying Kundalini yoga for the past 40-plus years.
Today’s exchange centers on the fundamental concepts of metamorphosis: the difference between striving and allowing, pushing and receiving, and the delicate balance between doing and being. We also explore the essential elements of lasting change and how to cultivate the inner awareness and strength needed to create a positive impact in our lives and the world around us. My hope is that this conversation will serve as a compass you can use to navigate the realms of personal growth and lead you toward a life of greater fulfillment and purpose.
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01:41:0708/06/2023
The Elite Ironman Who Survived a Mid-Race Heart Attack: Tim O'Donnell on Mental Fitness, His Brush with Death & Finding Joy In Training
Not all heart attacks are fatal. But when your heart’s left anterior descending artery becomes 100% blocked, the result is a massive heart attack known as The Widowmaker. Few survive its fatal clutch. But today’s guest Timothy O’Donnell beat the odds.
A professional long-course triathlete with over 50 podium finishes, including more than 25 wins at major events throughout the world, Tim is the 2009 ITU Long Distance World Champion, placed 2nd at the 2019 Ironman World Championships in Kona, and became the first American to finish that race in under 8 hours. Tim’s impressive 20-year athletic journey (and, more importantly, his life) nearly came to a tragic end in 2021 when he suffered a widowmaker heart attack in the middle of a half-ironman race. Somehow, Timothy was able to finish the race, placing 11th and making it to the hospital in time to make a full recovery.
Tim’s journey is nothing short of astonishing. Today he opens up about the strange dichotomy between his elite fitness and near-death experience, his decision to return to racing, and the critical importance of lifestyle choices for endurance athletes of all levels. We also talk about his experience at the Naval Academy and tenure as a Naval officer, triathlon professional athlete representation in the media today, his thoughts on the Norwegian Train, the future of triathlon, advice for amateur athletes, and more.
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01:54:4505/06/2023
Creativity, Self-Discovery, & 'Slip': Zoe Lister-Jones Is Reinventing Hollywood
Zoe Lister-Jones: a writer, producer, director, and actor you likely already know from her many film and television appearances, recent guest Zach Braff’s film ‘A Good Person’ and Ari Aster’s recently released ‘Beau Is Afraid’ starring Joaquin Phoenix. Zoe wrote, directed, and produced the film ‘Band-Aid.’ She has also starred in films she co-wrote, including ‘Breaking Upwards,’ ‘Consumed, and ‘How It Ends,’ which she also co-directed.
Today we dive into the creative process and philosophical inquiry behind Zoe’s newest creation, Slip—the binge-worthy comedy series with a bit of a surreal sci-fi twist that involves parallel realities and alternate identities. Not only did Zoe create the series. Not only does she star in it. Not only did she write all seven episodes, she also directed each and every one of those episodes, an absolutely stunning achievement.
We dig into the messy terrain of love, marriage, fidelity, divorce, addiction, and self-discovery that Slip explores. We talk about what it’s like growing up in New York City in a family of artists, making deeply authentic work, the responsibility she shoulders to empower other women in the arts, and ultimately, how to quiet the hungry ghosts lurking within us all. Zoe is an artist in the truest sense of the word and I loved getting to know her through this conversation. It’s a privilege to share her story with you today.
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02:06:3929/05/2023
ROLL ON: Ask Me Anything
Welcome to an old-school style of ‘Roll On’—the semi-regular version of the podcast where we ramble on matters of interest across culture, sports, art, literature, politics, self-betterment, and more. My co-host is Mr. Adam Skolnick, an activist, veteran journalist, author of One Breath, and David Goggins’ Can’t Hurt Me and Never Finished co-author. Today we exchange updates on personal goings on, tell highlights from recent travels, share streaming selects and media diet recipes, discuss listener inquiries, and more.
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02:12:5925/05/2023
Optimize Your Gut to Fight Disease With Tim Spector
As Hippocrates said, food is medicine. But what food specifically for which person? Under what particular circumstances? And when? Thanks to some astonishing breakthroughs in medical technology, scientists are at the threshold of prescribing food to sidestep disease, predict diagnostic outcomes, promote longevity, and enhance well-being on a highly individuated basis. The era of personalized medicine is upon us. And at the tip of this revolution is today’s guest, Dr. Tim Spector.
Arguably the world’s leading authority on the cutting edge of microbiome research, Tim is a globally-renowned epidemiologist and geneticist. He is also the bestselling author of several books, including The Diet Myth, Spoon Fed, and his latest work, Food for Life, an in-depth, scientific breakdown of what and when to eat, and ways we can all improve our own personal nutrition.
This is a fascinating conversation that will leave you reframing the importance diet plays in your life—and what the near future holds for better health for all.
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02:47:4922/05/2023
Neil Pasricha: Cultivate Happiness & Live An Awesome Life
Everyone wants to be happy—but why does it feel so complicated? Today’s guest believes happiness lives in the small, simple, and often overlooked daily wins. But only if only we take a moment to appreciate them. Meet my new friend, Neil Pasricha.
Neil is the author of nine books and journals, including The Book of Awesome, The Happiness Equation, and his newest offering, Our Book of Awesome—all of which orient around a spinning rolodex of simple pleasures originating from his 100-million-hit, award-winning blog 1000 Awesome Things. Neil shares the power of celebrating small wins and how intentionally noticing and appreciating small things, can train your brain to focus on the positive. Neil also shares the importance of taking a mindful, intentional approach to how you allocate your time and direct your attention and gives us a blueprint for building a life of more purpose. This is an uplifting exchange sure to brighten your day—and arm you with the tools you need to foster a happiness practice.
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02:53:1515/05/2023
Decoding Transformation: Presence Is The Residence of Potential
Why can some people change and others cannot? What are the determining variables that spark growth and expansion? Transformation—the how, when, and why of change—is a landscape of dichotomies. It is both an art and a science. It is both a mindset and a practice. It is action. But it is also stillness. It is both spiritual and practical.
Today I venture out of my comfort zone once again to share some thoughts on transformation in monologue format—synthesizing 56 years on this planet and over 750 conversations with changemakers across the world—into a podcast experiment I hope provides value. Everything I am expressing here is a needed reminder to myself as much as to you. I am certainly no master. My hope is that this episode inspires you to take ownership of your own growth journey—and embody positive change on a daily basis.
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26:2611/05/2023
Darin Olien On The Toxic Products That Are Destroying Your Health (And The Planet)
Today’s guest has a name for the pernicious ways in which the many products we routinely use are actually harming us in very real but often invisible ways: fatal conveniences. Everything from deodorant and denim to detergent and dental floss—even seemingly innocuous things like carpet, crayons, and candles, unbeknownst to most, are abound with chemicals either unproven safe or demonstrably harmful. And yet, these things are used ubiquitously in our daily lives without a second thought.
Here to help us make sense of this insanity is wellness expert Darin Olien, returning for his fifth appearance on the show. If you are new to this superfood-hunting adventurer, Darin has devoted his life to advancing human health, ecological preservation, and sustainability. He’s the New York Times bestselling author of SuperLife and cohost of the Emmy™ Award Winning, #1 Netflix docu-series, Down to Earth with Zac Efron.
In case you’ve missed my previous conversations with Darin, be sure to check out episodes #153, #268, #382, and #542.
Darin is a friend, a mentor, and my go-to counsel when it comes to better aligning my life with my values. This might be the most powerful and impactful of our conversations to date.
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02:18:4308/05/2023
Excellent Advice For Living: Kevin Kelly On Wealth, AI, Optimism, & The Future
Here to give us necessary life essentials is skilled navigator of uncertain times, Kevin Kelly. For those unfamiliar, Kevin is the co-founder of Wired magazine—widely recognized as the bible of the digital age. He is a renowned futurist, author, and public speaker whose insights into the world of technology and its impact on society have been widely sought after and deeply influential. Over the course of his career, Kevin has authored several seminal books, including Out of Control: The New Biology of Machines, Social Systems, and the Economic World and What Technology Wants. He has also been a prolific writer and commentator on a wide range of subjects related to technology, culture, and society, and has been a regular contributor to publications such as The New York Times, The Economist, and Scientific American.
Kevin shares a hopeful vision of the future of technology, and how it will continue to transform our lives and our world for the better. We delve into the latest trends in artificial intelligence, virtual reality, and other emerging technologies, exploring their potential to shape the world in ways that we can scarcely imagine. But the center of today’s exchange is Kevin’ latest book, Excellent Advice for Living: Wisdom I Wish I’d Known Earlier. From setting ambitious goals, optimizing generosity, and cultivating compassion, this is a must-read gold mine for wisdom on careers, relationships, parenting, finances, and more. My hope is that Kevin’s words brighten your thinking about the future and above all, prepare you for the inevitable changes on the horizon.
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02:25:3501/05/2023
Zach Bush, MD’s Beautiful Vision For Human & Planetary Evolution
We are approaching a significant tipping point for human and planetary health. Despite the breakneck pace of innovation and technology striving to solve these problems, I can’t help but feel the solutions we need continue to elude us. Today’s guest believes there is a better path forward—one that calls for spiritual evolution, and a profound reconnection with the natural world. Meet Zach Bush, MD, a triple board-certified physician, an internationally recognized thought leader, and a renowned educator on the microbiome as it relates to health, disease, and food systems.
Today’s exchange traverses many important topics including the link between human biology and planetary biology, how the quality of our soil affects our microbiome, actionable ways to regenerate the Earth, how we can work together for a healthy future for people, animals, and the planet, along with many other fascinating topics. I’m grateful to Zach for his wisdom. And I’m proud to share it with you today.
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02:07:2224/04/2023
ROLL ON: Travel In The Age of Climate Change
Travel allows you to experience different cultures, broaden your perspective, and gain a deeper appreciation for the world around you. But there is no denying that it also comes with massive environmental costs. Is it possible to travel in a completely sustainable way? And if so, how? What is the best way to move about the globe and make the most of experiences abroad?
Welcome to Roll On 2.0, an experiment in documentary-style storytelling in which Adam Skolnick and I ask a big question, investigate that query with several experts, attempt to arrive at a reasoned conclusion, and hopefully entertain you along the way. Today we dive deep into the pillars of regenerative travel—a new movement that aims to heal the planet while exploring it—and ways we can all be better visitors to the places we explore. This episode makes use of Adam’s journalistic prowess, buffered by wisdom shared by experts in the field of sustainable tourism. Special guests featured in this episode include Amanda Ho, Kílian Jornet, Celeste Brash, Mehmet McMillan, Amanda Harris, Paul Feinstein, Robbie Balenger, Paul Hawken and Hugh Garvey. Thanks for your help in making this episode possible!
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55:2920/04/2023
Rainn Wilson Is Calling For A Spiritual Revolution
Our post-modern culture has largely dismissed faith and spirituality as a collective pursuit. But today’s guest has a different perspective. He argues that we need to find practical spiritual solutions to help humanity move forward. In other words, we need a total spiritual revolution—what he calls, a Soul Boom. Enter Rainn Wilson, the co-founder of the media company SoulPancake, co-host of the podcast Metaphysical Milkshake with Reza Azlan, and the author of the new book “Soul Boom: Why We Need A Spiritual Revolution”. Oh yeah, and he once played a character in a television show called 'The Office.' You might have heard of it.
Today we discuss Rainn’s Bahá’í faith, his conception of the divine, the importance of finding meaning in life, the positives (and negatives) of religious belief, how to build a movement of change, finding the sacred in our everyday lives, and why the solutions to the existential problems we currently face require a spiritual revolution. This conversation is an equal parts fun and profound call to awaken our spiritual selves and engage in a deeper, more meaningful experience of the world around us. I hope you learn as much as I did.
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02:08:4317/04/2023
Lisa Damour, PhD On The Emotional Lives of Teenagers
Adolescence has always been a difficult phase of life, but today’s teenagers are navigating a world that is vastly different from any generation before them. From social media to cyberbullying, from political polarization to climate change, the challenges facing teenagers today are numerous and complex. So how do we equip teens emotionally with the tools they need to navigate our complex and ever-changing world? Here to help us answer this question is teen whisperer par excellence, Lisa Damour, PhD.
Lisa is a Yale-educated psychotherapist with a doctorate in Clinical Psychology from the University of Michigan who specializes in education and child development. She is the author of three New York Times bestsellers: Untangled, Under Pressure, and The Emotional Lives of Teenagers—the latter being the subject of today’s exchange. We explore the impact of social media on mental health, the pressure to succeed academically and professionally, and the struggles that come with trying to fit in and find a sense of belonging. We also look at the ways in which the pandemic has exacerbated some of these challenges, and how teenagers are coping with the disruption to their lives. Lisa provides concrete, actionable strategies for teaching teens how to manage their feelings and overcome friction at home. If you are a parent of young humans trying to make the right moves, or just want to better understand how young people think and why they behave as they do, then this episode is appointment listening.
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02:08:5110/04/2023
Log Off, Turn In, & Tune Up
In this episode, I reflect on our evolving and complicated relationship with the digital world, the importance of logging off, investing in analog experience, and turning our attention instead to presence, growth, real connection, and bringing more conscious intentionality to our lives.
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31:3906/04/2023
Senator Cory Booker On Unity, Hope & Healthy Food For All
Senator Cory Booker is the former mayor of Newark, New Jersey, a 2020 presidential candidate, and currently a leading voice in the United States Senate. My conversation with Cory covers his path to public service, the divided nature of modern politics, how to lead by example with love and faith, and a topic that is near and dear to both of our hearts: food policy reform. Senator Booker has been fiercely advocating to reinvent our food systems to address food insecurity and rising rates of lifestyle disease incident to poor nutrition. He also calls out the many ills of factory farming, including soil depletion, climate degradation, species extinction, animal suffering, and food injustice—working tirelessly to ensure that every American has access to healthy, affordable food.
Ultimately, this conversation is all about embracing the power we all possess to catalyze substantive change—and shouldering that responsibility to drive change within ourselves, in our communities, and even on a national level. It was a true honor to spend time with Senator Booker. I have been inspired by his example as a public servant for many years—he is a man who truly walks his talk—and I was quite moved by what he shared in this exchange.
I hope you find this episode as meaningful as I did.
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02:15:4703/04/2023
Open The Pod Bay Doors, Sydney
What does the advent of artificial intelligence portend for the future of humanity? Is it a tool, or a human replacement system?
Today we dive deep into the philosophical queries centered on the implications of A.I. through a brand new format—an experiment in documentary-style storytelling in which we ask a big question, investigate that query with several experts, attempt to arrive at a reasoned conclusion, and hopefully entertain you along the way.
My co-host for this adventure is Adam Skolnick, a veteran journalist, author of One Breath, and David Goggins’ Can’t Hurt Me and Never Finished co-author. Adam writes about adventure sports, environmental issues, and civil rights for outlets such as The New York Times, Outside, ESPN, BBC, and Men’s Health.
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01:20:4727/03/2023
Zach Braff Is Processing Pain Through Art
We all face difficult experiences at some point in our lives: loss, grief, disappointment—feelings that can be overwhelming, confusing, and even paralyzing to confront. But what if we could transform our pain into something beautiful? What if we could use our creativity to process our emotions and, in turn, transmute them into something that speaks to others, serves as a communal salve, and illustrates that hope, help, and healing are possible? Today we explore the art of understanding, accepting, and processing emotion through the creative process with the incredibly talented actor, writer, director, and new friend, Zach Braff.
Many of you may know Zach from the hit TV show 'Scrubs,' or his seminal directorial debut ‘Garden State’—a much-celebrated independent film he wrote, directed, and starred in alongside Natalie Portman. But today, we dive into the creative process behind Zach’s newest directorial effort, 'A Good Person,' a story about a young woman played by the eminently talented Florence Pugh whose world crumbles in the wake of surviving an unimaginable tragedy. In addition to discussing Zach’s background and his relationship with creativity, today we talk about what happens when you create with authenticity, find presence in pain, and make your own meaning. We also discuss Zach's own personal journey in bringing this story to life and the impact he hopes it will have on audiences. 'A Good Person' opens nationwide this Friday, March 24th— and how long it remains in the theatres is up to you. Let’s help him make this one a hit.
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01:57:3923/03/2023
Unlocking the Science of Longevity with Peter Attia, MD
Today we explore science-backed truths behind healthspan extension and healthy aging with Dr. Peter Attia. Peter is a graduate of Stanford School of Medicine, a former surgeon, and a world-renowned physician who has dedicated his life to understanding the science of human health and the art of living a longer, more fulfilling life. The occasion for Peter’s return is the publication of his new book, Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity—a groundbreaking primer that challenges the conventional medical thinking on aging and reveals a new approach to preventing chronic disease and extending long-term health.
Today’s conversation offers a short overview of all of the subjects covered in the book including the roles that exercise, nutrition, and sleep play in preventing or delaying the onset of the primary conditions that unnecessarily end most people’s lives too soon. But in large part, we focus on the story of Peter’s emotional health during a dark time and the critical role that emotional well-being plays in the quest for a longer, healthier life.
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03:02:5920/03/2023
4,000 Kilometers On Foot: Nedd Brockmann’s Epic Run Across Australia
Imagine running 2,500 miles across Australia, in some of the most brutal conditions on Earth, in under 50 days. This is the remarkable story of today’s guest Nedd Brockmann. A charismatic young electrician apprentice with a legendary bleach blonde mullet and world-class personality, at just 23 years old, Nedd audaciously set out to become the fastest person to ever run across his native Australia–4000km (2,500 miles) from Perth to Bondi Beach in Sydney.
This is a phenomenal conversation in which we unpack Nedd’s extraordinary and inspiring journey. We cover why he got into running, how he progressed so quickly, and the intrinsic motivation behind his trans-Australia adventure. Nedd shares how he grapples with hardship—including his post-run PTSD. But more than anything, today’s conversation is about what we can all learn from his example when it comes to human potential and the power we all have to do amazing things when the mind, body, and spirit are dialed in.
I loved getting to know him—and I know you will too.
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01:51:4713/03/2023
Julie Piatt On Soul Evolution, Sacred Embodiment, and Falling In Love With Yourself
What is our soul’s purpose here on planet earth? How do we catalyze experience into evolution? And how do we discover who we really are? To help us make sense of these important spiritual inquiries, enter Julie Piatt, otherwise summoned as the holy and ethereal Sri Mati.
She is an accomplished yogi, musician, chef, and mom to our four children. She’s also the bestselling author of three vegan cookbooks, hosts the For The Life of Me podcast, lords over Water Tiger, her online spiritual community, and is the CEO and ‘Mother Arc’ of SriMu, the best plant-based cheese in the known universe. Julie has been a recurring source of spiritual wisdom on the podcast, dropping many a pearl over the years on everything from parenting and creativity to finding meaning, purpose, direction, grappling with love, grief, and everything in between.
Today’s conversation centers on the ways we can all become more embodied, connected to the core of our beings, and find direction in our intuition. We talk about how to remove obstacles on your path to self-growth, face trauma, and how to cultivate self-love. Every podcast with Julie is sure to deliver some soul-nourishing magic—and this conversation is no exception.
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01:32:3909/03/2023
What Is Consciousness? Philip Goff On The Nature of Reality & The Science of Mind
What is consciousness? Where does it come from? What happens to consciousness when we die? And what is the nature of reality?
It’s time to ask the big questions and tackle the hard problems that have perplexed humanity since the dawn of inquiry.
Our guide for today’s journey is Philip Goff, PhD, a modern philosopher who has devoted his life to better understanding the qualities of reality.
Philip is an associate professor of philosophy at Durham University who specializes in the nature of consciousness. He is a proponent of panpsychism—the controversial theory that everything material in our universe is imbued with some element of individual consciousness—which he beautifully captures in his fascinating book, Galileo's Error.
This is a fascinating, awe-inspiring conversation about the science of mind, the nature of reality and consciousness, the meaning of the multiverse, artificial intelligence, and spirituality. A conversation that I must admit began to stretch past the boundary of my intellectual capabilities—but in the most enjoyable way possible
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01:58:3506/03/2023
John Pearson: Modeling Healthy Masculinity With The First Male Supermodel
What does it mean to be a good man? Furthermore, how do we combat toxic masculinity? And how do we find purpose in aging? Today we explore these topics and more with the world’s first male supermodel, John Pearson. John is a pioneer of the male modeling profession, and was the most sought-after male model through the 1990s, the face for some of the world’s biggest brands.
But John is here today not so much because of his past—although it’s incredibly fascinating—but because of the very unique life he lives today. We discuss his wild career and the ways it has impacted his perspective on art, culture, the power of an image, and the modern world of influence. We also dive into his philosophy on parenting, mental health, and modeling healthy masculinity—themes that underscore his very cool lifestyle and self-improvement digital magazine, Mr. Feel Good.
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02:13:1727/02/2023
Finding Peace; A Meditation Masterclass
We all want to find peace. We all want to experience contentment. And most of all, we all want to be happy. So why are these states so elusive? From reducing stress and anxiety to improving immune function and sleep quality, meditation has been shown to positively impact our brain and body. But in this fast-paced, hyper-connected world, most people often struggle to find the time or the motivation to meditate. But, the reality is that meditation need not be a burden, but rather a way of life that can be seamlessly integrated into our daily routine.
From learning how to cultivate a daily practice to exploring the neuroscience behind the benefits of meditation, this episode is packed with valuable insights and practical advice guaranteed to inform and enlighten the novice and the seasoned meditator. My hope is that you use this compilation episode as an inspiration and jumping-off point for further inquiry and, an ever-deepening practice.
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01:50:1123/02/2023
Fueling Performance With Play: Ultra-Runner Mike Wardian On Crushing World Records & Work-Life Balance
Meet ultra-legend Mike Wardian. From running seven marathons in seven days on seven continents to running across America, Mike has accomplished a staggering amount as a runner over the years. He holds FKTs all over the globe from D.C. to Israel, and won a 100k world championship silver medal. And he’s done all of this while holding a full-time day job and spending time with his wife and young children.
In today’s conversation, we dive deep into Mike’s unique relationship with running, setting his world records, his experience running across America, and how he balances all of his athletic accomplishments with his responsibilities. We also talk about how his hobbies, like pickleball, chess, cycling, and CrossFit, complement his endurance training.
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02:17:2120/02/2023
Robert McKee On The Art of Story & Why Stories Matter
Robert McKee is a modern Aristotle of story and master of the form who wrote the definitive book on the subject, called, of course, STORY. Robert is a Fulbright scholar and the author of five books on storytelling, including Dialogue, Character, Action, and Storynomics, but he is best known as the most sought-after screenwriting teacher in the world. His students have collectively won 70 Academy Awards, 250 Emmy Awards, and 100 WGA (Writers Guild of America) Awards. My conversation with Robert centered on his philosophy of story, what stories are, why they’re important for humanity and so much more.
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02:02:1113/02/2023
Roll On Re-Entry: AMA on Addiction, Lifestyle Change, & A New Format
Welcome to the 2023 season premiere of ‘Roll On’, the version of the podcast where we indulge in some good-natured banter and ramble on matters of interest across culture, sports, politics, literature, art, self-betterment, and more. My co-host is Mr. Adam Skolnick, an activist, veteran journalist, author of One Breath, and David Goggins’ Can’t Hurt Me and Never Finished co-author. Adam writes about adventure sports, environmental issues, and civil rights for outlets such as The New York Times, Outside, ESPN, BBC, and Men’s Health.
Today Rich and Adam talk about the new ‘Roll On’ format, share their streaming selects, answer listener questions, and more.
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01:29:4509/02/2023
Big Wave Legend Garrett McNamara On Chasing 100ft+ Waves
Meet legendary big wave king Garrett McNamara. Garrett is an internationally recognized big wave surfer who commanded global attention by surfing one of the world’s largest waves in Nazaré, Portugal, and popularizing Nazaré’s now famous surf break. He has also accomplished a myriad of other absolutely insane surfing feats like surfing waves generated by a 300ft glacier in Alaska, giant barrels breaking on shallow, jagged reefs, and on massive, open ocean hurricane swells.
We dive into Garrett’s background—how he began surfing, his 100-foot wave quest, and the docu-series that captured it all. As an added bonus, Garrett’s wife Nicole—absolutely his partner in all things—joins the conversation at the end to enlighten us on the manifestation spiritual practice she and Garrett utilize to guide their decision-making and execute their goals. Garrett is he’s quite a character, truly one of a kind. My exchange with him and Nicole is one I won’t soon forget.
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02:26:5306/02/2023
How To Live An Ethical Life With Moral Philosopher Peter Singer
Today’s guest has dedicated his life to answering these questions with actionable, sustainable solutions. Meet the world’s most influential living philosopher, Peter Singer.
The grandfather of both the modern animal rights and effective altruism movements, Peter is a Professor of Bioethics at Princeton and a Laureate Professor at the University of Melbourne, who has published several books on our moral responsibility to alleviate suffering.
Since its original publication in 1975, his groundbreaking work "Animal Liberation" has awakened millions of people to the existence of speciesism—our systematic disregard of nonhuman animals—inspiring a worldwide movement to transform our attitudes to animals and eliminate the cruelty we inflict on them. His book "The Life You Can Save" and the nonprofit organization of the same name focus on how we should respond to extreme poverty and how doing good for others can bring fulfillment to your own life.
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01:48:3130/01/2023
Steven Pressfield: Battle Resistance, Master Your Craft, & Pursue Your Calling
Here to wax poetic on all things creativity, battling resistance, and answering your calling is wise master of the creative process Steven Pressfield, returning for his second appearance on the show (his first being episode #584). Steven is a prolific writer and thinker known for his profound insights into the creative process and the psychology of success. He has over 20 books to his name, and his works The War of Art, Do The Work, and Turning Pro have inspired and motivated millions of readers worldwide to embrace their creative compulsions and pursue their dreams with conviction and determination. Packed with actionable advice to inform your creative process, I have no doubt that Steven’s words will serve you no matter where you are on your creative journey.
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02:00:4126/01/2023
Chef Babette: Fit at 72, Self-Love & Life Transformation Through Food
A force of nature, Chef Babette is the chef and owner of Stuff I Eat, a plant-based restaurant in Inglewood, California.
After weathering an extremely challenging childhood, years addicted to drugs and processed foods, and suffering from a myriad of health issues, Babette managed to get clean and transform her life wholesale.
From going plant-based in her 40’s, to starting a restaurant in her 50’s despite no experience, to becoming the very model of fit and radiant at 72 years young, Babette is a living testament to all late bloomers that it’s never too late to change.
This conversation is about all that and more.
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01:45:1523/01/2023
Rick Rubin: Modern Master Of The Creative Act
An absolute icon of modern music whose influence on culture has been nothing short of titanic, Rick Rubin is one of the greatest music producers of all time, noted for his unique—and some might say counter-intuitive—way in which he is able to help manifest the absolute best in every artist he works with. But lesser appreciated is Rick’s spiritual approach to artistry, explored in his newly released and completely transformative book, The Creative Act, which is all about cultivating the innate creativity that dwells within all of us. But more than that, creativity is a way of moving through the world.
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01:37:3916/01/2023
Coach of The Norwegian Train: Olav Aleksander Bu On The Science of Elite Performance
The co-founder of the companies Santara tech and Entalpi, Olav is a sports scientist and elite coach who helped to devise a protocol of testing and performance optimization, grounded in the scientific method, that is achieving undisputable real-world results as evidenced by the Olympic gold medals and championship victories of Kristian Blummenfelt and Gustav Iden.
I had the honor to sit down with the Norwegian triathlon world champs Kristian and Gustav a few months ago. And while they earnestly answered every question I asked, I was still left wondering: what exactly is going on in Norway to produce such towering figures in the world of swim-bike-run?
Here today, with the answers and practical training protocols, is the coach of The Norwegian Train himself.
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01:44:4912/01/2023
Seth Godin On Creativity, Embracing Failure & Spreading Big Ideas
Today’s guest wants to give you the tools to get started, overcome creative blocks, and get your work into the hands of the people you most want to help. His name is Seth Godin.
He's the author of more than 19 international bestsellers, an entrepreneur, a speaker, and a climate activist. Through his work, Seth seeks to turn people’s lights on, inspire them to action, and teach them how to level up. And in today’s conversation we discuss creativity, writing, understanding the distinction between marketing and advertising, the pitfalls of modern education, and his most recent book, The Carbon Almanac, a one-stop-shop on everything we know about global climate change.
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01:54:5509/01/2023