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Jedidiah Bracy, IAPP Editorial Director
The International Association of Privacy Professionals is the largest and most comprehensive global information privacy community and resource, helping practitioners develop and advance their careers and organizations manage and protect their data. More than just a professional association, the IAPP provides a home for privacy professionals around the world to gather, share experiences and enrich their knowledge.
Founded in 2000, the IAPP is a not-for-profit association with more than 70,000 members in 100 countries. The IAPP helps define, support and improve the privacy profession through networking, education and certification.
This podcast features IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy, who interviews privacy pros and thought leaders from around the world about technology, law, policy and the privacy profession.
AI red teaming strategy and risk assessments: A conversation with Brenda Leong
AI governance is a rapidly evolving field that faces a wide array of risks, challenges and opportunities. For organizations looking to leverage AI systems such as large language models and generative AI, assessing risk prior to deployment is a must. One technique that’s been borrowed from the security space is red teaming. The practice is growing, and regulators are taking notice. Brenda Leong, a partner of Luminos Law, helps global businesses manage their AI and data risks. I recently caught up with her to discuss what organizations should be thinking about when diving into red teaming to assess risk prior to deployment.
37:4113/11/2024
Presidential election 2024: Where the candidates stand on privacy and AI governance policy
As the U.S. enters the final stretch of the 2024 election cycle, we face a tight race at the presidential and congressional levels. With a razor-thin margin separating Vice President Kamala Harris and former president Donald Trump, we decided to take a look at the possible policy positions of each campaign with regard to privacy and artificial intelligence governance. Of course, reading tea leaves is no easy feat, but while attending IAPP Privacy. Security. Risk. 2024 in Los Angeles, California, IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy sat down with Managing Director, D.C., Cobun Zweifel-Keegan, CIPP/US, CIPM, to gain his insight on each camp's policy positions, from the administrative state to international data transfers and beyond. Here's what he had to say.
38:5104/10/2024
2024 in US state privacy law: A retrospective with Keir Lamont and David Stauss
The year 2024 proved to be another robust one for emerging U.S. state privacy law. Seven states joined the ranks, bringing the total up to 19. Unlike previous years, however, 2024 underwent a paradigm shift away from the standard framework influenced by the draft Washington State Privacy Act. For the Future of Privacy Forum's Keir Lamont, CIPP/US, and Husch Blackwell's David Stauss, CIPP/E, CIPP/US, CIPT, FIP, PLS, 2024 marked the end of what Lamont calls the "Pax Washingtonia" era for state privacy law. While attending the IAPP Privacy. Security. Risk. conference in Los Angeles, California, IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy caught up with Lamont and Stauss to discuss this busy year in state privacy law, as well as what to expect with rulemaking and enforcement at the state level.
46:1601/10/2024
Assessing AI's risks and impacts: A conversation with NIST's Reva Schwartz
In May 2024, the U.S. National Institute for Standards and Technology launched a new program called ARIA, which is short for Assessing Risks and Impacts of AI. The aim of the program is to advance sociotechnical testing and evaluation of artificial intelligence by developing methods to quantify how a given system works within real-world contexts. Potential outputs include scalable guidelines, tools, methodologies and metrics. Reva Schwartz is a research scientist and principal investigator for AI bias at NIST and the ARIA program lead. In recent years, she's also helped with NIST's AI Risk Management Framework. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy recently caught up with Reva to discuss the program, what it entails, how it will work and who will be involved.
27:3014/08/2024
Privacy litigation trends: A discussion with Darren Abernethy
With the proliferation of comprehensive U.S. state privacy laws in recent years, there’s been an understandable focus by privacy professionals on this growing patchwork. But privacy litigation is also on the rise and the plaintiff’s bar has explored some novel theories, particularly around the use of onlin tracking technologies. Greenberg Traurig Shareholder Darren Abernethy advises clients in the ad tech, data privacy and cybersecurity space and is familiar with these recent litigation trends involving theories related to pen registers, chatbots, session replay, Meta pixels, software development kits and the Video Privacy Protection Act. Here’s what he had to say about these growing litigation trends.
45:1627/06/2024
Inside the EU AI Act negotiations: A discussion with Laura Caroli
For many of us following along with the EU AI Act negotiations, the road to a final agreement took many twists and turns, some unexpected. For Laura Caroli, this long, complicated road has been a lived experience. As the lead technical negotiator and policy advisor to AI Act co-rapporteur Brando Benefei, Caroli was immersed in high stakes negotiations for the world’s first major AI legislation. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy spoke with Caroli in a candid conversation about her experience and policy philosophy, including the approach EU policy makers took in crafting the AI Act, the obstacles negotiators faced, and how it fundamentally differs from the EU General Data Protection Regulation. She addresses criticisms of the act, highlights the AI-specific rights for individuals, discusses the approach to future proofing a law that regulates such a rapidly developing technology, and looks ahead to what a successful AI law will look like in practice.
50:1401/05/2024
Top trends in cybersecurity: A chat with James Dempsey and John Carlin
In tandem with privacy, cybersecurity law is rapidly evolving to meet the needs of an increasingly digitized and complex economy. To help practitioners keep up with this ever-changing space, the IAPP published the first edition of Cybersecurity Law Fundamentals in 2021. But there have been a lot of developments since then. Cybersecurity Law Fundamentals author Jim Dempsey, lecturer at UC Berkeley Law School and senior policy advisor at Stanford Cyber Policy Center, brought on a co-author, John Carlin, partner at Paul Weiss and former Assistant Attorney General, to help with the new edition. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy recently spoke with both Dempsey and Carlin about the latest trends in cybersecurity, including best practices in dealing with ransomware, the significance of the new SEC disclosure rule, cybersecurity provisions in state privacy laws, trends in FTC enforcement, the recent Biden Executive Order on preventing access to bulk sensitive personal data to countries of concern, and much more. We even hear about the time Carlin briefed the U.S. president on the Sony Pictures hack.
01:07:5515/04/2024
Regulating AI in the UK: A discussion with Lord Holmes
For those following the regulation of artificial intelligence, there is no doubt passage of the AI Act in the EU is likely top of mind. But proposed policies, laws and regulatory developments are taking shape in many corners of the world, including in Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, India, Singapore and the U.S. Not to be left behind, the U.K. held a highly touted AI Safety Summit late last year, producing the Bletchley Declaration, and the government has been quite active in what the IAPP Research and Insights team describes as a “context-based, proportionate approach to regulation.” In the upper chamber of the U.K. Parliament, Lord Holmes, a member of the influential House of Lords Select Committee on Science and Technology, introduced a private members’ bill late in 2023 that proposes the regulation of AI. The bill also just received a second reading in the House of Lords 22 March. Lord Holmes spoke of AI’s power at a recent IAPP conference in London. While there, I had the opportunity to catch up with him to learn more about his Artificial Intelligence (Regulation) Bill and what he sees as the right approach to guiding the powers of this burgeoning technology.
22:0525/03/2024
Privacy and data protection in 2023: A year in review with Joe Jones
Hard to believe we’re at the twilight of 2023. For those following data protection and privacy developments, each year seems to bring with it a torrent of news and developments. This past year was no different. The EU General Data Protection Regulation turned five, and the Snowden revelations turned 10. From a finalized EU-US Data Privacy Framework, to major enforcement actions on Big Tech companies, to a panoply of new data protection laws in India and at least 7 US states, to the dramatic rise of AI governance, 2023 was as robust as ever. To help flesh out some of the big takeaways from 2023, IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy caught up with IAPP Research & Insights Director Joe Jones, who joined the IAPP at the outset of the year.
31:1320/12/2023
Luca Bertuzzi on the EU AI Act political deal and what's next
After a gruelling trilogue process that featured two marathon negotiating sessions, the European Union finally came to a political agreement 8 December on what will be the world’s first comprehensive regulation of artificial intelligence. The EU AI Act will be a risk-based, horizontal regulation with far-reaching provisions for companies and organizations using, designing or deploying AI systems. Though the so-called trilogue process is a fairly opaque one, where the European Parliament, European Commision and Council of the EU negotiate behind closed doors, journalist Luca Bertuzzi has acted as a window into the process through his persistent reporting for Euractiv. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy caught up with Bertuzzi to discuss the negotiations and what comes next in the process.
35:3211/12/2023
Martin Abrams: A look back at a career in information privacy and consumer policy
Martin Abrams knows a little something about information privacy and consumer policy. Over the course of the last 40-plus years, Abrams has had his hands in a number of initiatives, including as co-founder and president of the Center for Information Policy Leadership and founder of the Information Accountability Foundation. He took part in the development of the APEC Cross Border Privacy Rules and the OECD’s Working Party on Information Security and Privacy. Abram's work on transparency and accountability has been influential on policy makers around the world. At the latest Global Privacy Assembly in Bermuda, Abrams announced he was retiring from his full-time position at IAF and taking more time to be with his family. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy caught up with Abrams to take a look back at his career, the changes he’s seen in information policy and where he thinks data policy and regulation are heading.
51:0601/12/2023
EU policymakers discuss the EU AI Act negotiations at DPC23
The EU AI Act negotiations recently hit a major roadblock after EU Council Member States France and Germany unexpectedly pushed back on the European Parliament's draft position on regulating foundation models. The obstacle was so sudden, it appeared the negotiations were in a stalemate. Though the issue has not yet been fully resolved, the Spanish presidency of the EU Council is reportedly working with Member States to find a position that is workable for the European Parliament. This comes as the IAPP hosts its sold out Data Protection Congress 2023 in Brussels, Belgium. To be sure, the foundation model issue is not the only sticking point remaining in the trilogue negotiations. There are others. To get the inside scoop, I had the chance to catch up with EU AI Act co-rapportuer Dragoș Tudorache and Kai Zenner, head of staff for German MEP Axel Voss about the negotiations, the obstacles and whether there will be an agreement before next year's parliamentary elections.
42:1716/11/2023
Catching up with the co-author of the White House Blueprint for an AI Bill of Rights
As automated systems rapidly develop and embed themselves into modern life, policy makers around the world are taking note and, in some cases, stepping in. Earlier this year, the Biden-Harris administration took an early step by releasing a Blue Print for an AI Bill of Rights. Comprising five main principles, as well as what should be expected of automated systems, while offering a slate of real-world examples of the potential harms and benefits of artificial intelligence, the Blueprint is a must-read for AI governance and privacy professionals working in the space. Suresh Venkatasubramanian is a Professor of Computer Science and Data Science at Brown University. He also co-authored the Blueprint while serving as Assistant Director for Science and Justice in the White House Office of Technology and Policy. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy recently caught up with Suresh to learn more about his work on the Blueprint, how it fits into the broader spectrum of existing AI guidelines and frameworks, and what professionals should know about this rights-based document.
40:2902/08/2023
Assessing the Snowden revelations 10 years later
In June 2013, a series of high-profile U.S. government surveillance disclosures to major media outlets rippled throughout the world and changed the calculus for the privacy profession. Hard to believe it's now been 10 years since an unknown U.S. government contractor leaked to the world massive amounts of information about top secret U.S. intelligence programs. Within weeks, Edward Snowden became a household, if not, controversial name — not only in the privacy profession — but to consumers and citizens far and wide. A lot has transpired since the summer of Snowden in 2013. The U.S. has altered some of its surveillance laws, and the trans-Atlantic relationship between the U.S. and EU has grown complicated after a series of data transfer agreements were struck down by the EU's highest court. The third such agreement is pending. Though the privacy world is constantly changing, it seems fitting to stop and take stock of this last decade to see how much, if anything, has changed. To help measure the ripple effect, IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy chatted with IAPP Senior Research Fellow Muge Fazlioglu and Research and Insights Director Joe Jones to uncover what's changed in the U.S. and abroad, as well as how consumer attitudes have evolved since then.
46:1416/06/2023
The ins and outs of workplace privacy law: A chat with Zoe Argento
We often focus on consumer policy when discussing privacy laws and obligations, but companies must protect their employee data, as well. Navigating complex employee privacy and labor laws in the U.S., for example, can be challenging, and new state laws, like the California Privacy Rights Act, apply more pressure on privacy pros charged with ensuring employee data is protected and handled appropriately. Littler Mendelson Privacy and Data Security Practice Group Co-Chair Zoe Argento knows the workplace privacy field well and advises clients on a wide range of issues. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy recently caught up with Argento to discuss some of the pressing trends in the workplace privacy space, including CPRA obligations, workplace surveillance and artificial intelligence issues, international data transfers and data security best practices.
49:0624/03/2023
NIST's Reva Schwartz on the new AI Risk Management Framework
The prospect of day-to-day life with artificial intelligence is no longer a future endeavor. AI systems comprise countless applications across public and private organizations, and through open-sourced systems, such as ChatGPT, AI is now consumer-facing and usable. The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology was directed by the National Artificial Intelligence Initiative Act of 2020 to create a voluntary resource for organizations designing, developing, deploying or using AI systems to help manage risk and to promote trustworthy and responsible development of AI systems. As a result, NIST released the AI Risk Management Framework 1.0 along with supplementary documents to help organizations. To learn more about the newly released framework and how organizations should approach it, IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy caught up with NIST Research Scientist and Principle Investigator for AI Bias Reva Schwartz.
41:0624/02/2023
Top takeaways from the FTC-GoodRx case: A chat with Kirk Nahra
In early February, the U.S. Federal Trade Commission published a proposed order that fines telehealth and discount prescription provider GoodRX $1.5 milllion. Though part of the case involves deception – one of two prongs under the FTC Act – the case also raises the first-of-its-kind use of the Health Breach Notification Rule. To help better understand the novel and complex issues that are embedded in the case, IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy caught up with Wilmer Hale Partner Kirk Nahra to discuss some of the takeaways privacy pros in any industry vertical should consider.
34:4010/02/2023
A look at privacy developments in 2023 with Omer Tene
Without a doubt, 2022 was a packed year for privacy-related news and developments. But according to Goodwin Partner and IAPP Westin Emeritus Senior Fellow Omer Tene, 2023 is set to call and raise the stakes. To be sure, 2023 didn’t hesitate. On Jan. 4, just a few days before we sat down for our interview, the Irish Data Protection Commission levied a massive 390 million euro fine on Meta social networks Facebook and Instagram. Yet, that’s only the tip of the iceberg. In this episode of The Privacy Advisor Podcast, which was recorded January 10, IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy sat down with Tene to discuss what he thinks will be some of the biggest developments in privacy in 2023, including why he believes a federal U.S. privacy law still has a chance in the new U.S. Congress.
40:2220/01/2023
All things 'California Privacy Law' with Lothar Determann
California has long led the way on many privacy-related laws, going back to at least 2002 when it passed the first data breach notification law in the U.S. More recently, passage of the California Consumer Privacy Act and the California Privacy Rights Act has prompted other states to follow suit. Baker McKenzie Partner Lothar Determann has long practiced and taught international data privacy law, and beginning in 2013, published the book, “California Privacy Law.” Now in its fifth edition and published by the IAPP for the last three editions, the new edition comes as the CPRA goes into effect, with implementing regulations on the way. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy caught up with Determann to talk about the California’s privacy regime, what companies should be doing to comply, what’s new in the updated book, and what’s on the horizon for federal and state privacy law in the U.S. and beyond.
48:1405/01/2023
Operationalizing data subject rights: How Consumer Reports is aiming to help
With the rise of data subject rights in privacy law, privacy practitioners are often challenged with operationalizing what can be a complex and risky endeavor. California, through the CCPA and CPRA, has emerged as a leader on this in the United States. Advocacy organization Consumer Reports has not only been working on policy with states like California on data subject rights but also with industry on standardizing consumer data rights. With a number of companies in the privacy tech vendor space, CR is announcing the open standard called the Data Rights Protocol. It’s also in the early stages of acting as an authorized agent on behalf of consumers, with a service its calling Permission Slip. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy talks with Ginny Fahs, associate director of product R&D for Consumer Reports Digital Lab, and Technology Policy Director Justin Brookman, to learn about their open-sourced protocol and what they’re doing to help both consumers and organizations operationalize data subject rights.
30:3309/12/2022
The EU AI Act: A discussion with MEP and Co-rapporteur Dragoș Tudorache
Nearly five years after the implementation of the EU General Data Protection Regulation, Europe is immersed in a digital market strategy that is giving rise to a host of new, interconnected regulation. Among this complexity resides the proposed Artificial Intelligence Act. Originally presented by the European Commission April 2021, the AI Act is now in the hands of the Council of the European Union and European Parliament. If passed, this would be the world’s first comprehensive, horizontal regulation of AI. On my visit to Brussels for the IAPP Data Protection Congress, I had the opportunity to meet with AI Act Co-rapportuer and Romanian Member of Parliament Dragoș Tudorache in his office. During our extended conversation, we discussed the risk-framework for the proposal, how the legislation will intersect with existing regulations, like the GDPR, current sticking points with stakeholders and what this means for privacy and data protection professionals.
54:0301/12/2022
What the 2022 midterm election results mean for US privacy law
The highly anticipated mid-term elections in the U.S. so far have provided surprising results. Many political pundits expected a “red wave” of Republican candidates to take over both chambers of U.S. Congress. Though control of Congress is still up in the air, Democrats fared better than most expected. With some of the dust now settled, what do the 2022 midterm results mean for potential passage of the American Data Privacy and Protection Act, both in the lame duck session and the 118th Congress? Will House and Senate committee assignments change? What do the mid-term results mean for enforcement by federal agencies, like the Federal Trade Commission? And how will the results affect state privacy legislation in 2023 and beyond? To help shed light on these issues, I caught up with R Street Resident Senior Fellow for Cybersecurity and Emerging Threats Brandon Pugh and Public Knowledge Senior Policy Counsel Sara Collins.
38:3911/11/2022
On the need for intimate privacy - A chat with Danielle Citron
As we round out 2022, digital technology is further embedding itself into our daily lives. Beyond the smartphone’s ubiquity, wearable sensors proliferate and are found everywhere from the gym to the bedroom. Intimate relationships are formed through dating apps more than ever before. We’re tracked in our cars, in retail establishments and online. At no time in history has data collection been as prevalent as it is now, and it’s only increasing. But what does that mean for the development of our identities and relationships, particularly for those who are most vulnerable? University of Virginia School of Law Prof. Danielle Citron has long explored these issues, which she’s presented in her new book, “The Fight for Privacy: Protecting Dignity, Identity and Love in the Digital Age.” I recently caught up with Prof. Citron to discuss her work, and how law – particularly civil rights law – society and privacy pros can all play a role in protecting what makes us human.
53:5628/10/2022
A chat with U.K. Information Commissioner John Edwards
Since becoming U.K. Information Commissioner, John Edwards has been busy. Officially taking the reigns January 4, Edwards embarked on a listening tour to learn the ins and outs of the U.K. The former New Zealand Privacy Commissioner gave his first major public speech since heading up the ICO at the IAPP Data Protection Intensive in London last month and joined German Federal Commissioner for Data Protection and Freedom of Information Ulrich Kelber for a “commissioner’s chat” at the IAPP Global Privacy Summit in Washington, DC. While there, The Privacy Advisor Podcast host Jedidiah Bracy caught up with Edwards in person to discuss his priorities, how he foresees working with other data protection authorities, his thoughts on transborder data flows and the U.K.’s potential changes to it data protection law, and, most importantly, what he’s currently listening to for music.
30:2826/04/2022
Children's privacy and safety: A conversation with Kalinda Raina
In 1998, the U.S. was the first nation to enact a privacy law specifically tailored to protect children’s data. Nearly 25 years later, COPPA – the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act – is one of several children’s privacy and data protection laws around the world. LinkedIn Vice President and Chief Privacy Officer Kalinda Raina first encountered the draft COPPA bill while interning at the Center for Democracy & Technology. In the years since, she has helped lead the privacy efforts at Nintendo and Apple. With three children of her own, Kalinda has an in-depth knowledge of children’s privacy issues, both as a parent and privacy pro. Her passion for the issue led her to start a YouTube channel to help educate parents and kids about privacy and safety issues and to shepherd a new book called “Children’s Privacy and Safety,” published by the IAPP. The Privacy Advisor Podcast host Jedidiah Bracy recently caught up with Kalinda to discuss children’s privacy, her work, and the new book.
39:4911/04/2022
Talking Strategic Privacy by Design with Jason Cronk
The concept of privacy and data protection by design is not new in the privacy world. We know that privacy should be integrated in the foundational design of a product or service; that is should be baked in, not bolted on. But what that means in practice is often elusive. In 2018, Enterprivacy Consulting Group founder Jason Cronk wrote the book Strategic Privacy by Design, which was published by the IAPP. In it, Cronk offered insights for building processes, products and services that consider an individual’s privacy interests as a requirement. In the four years since, law and technology have continued to evolve, prompting Jason to write a second edition of the book. The IAPP's Jedidiah Bracy recently caught up with Cronk to discuss his work in designing for privacy and what’s new in his second edition.
56:5623/03/2022
A chat with Neil Richards on 'Why Privacy Matters'
It’s difficult to remember a time when people didn’t extoll cliches like “privacy is dead” or “data is the new oil.” No doubt, privacy is constantly challenged by ever advancing technology, and data is mined ubiquitously for its value, but privacy is far from dead. Washington University in St. Louis School of Law Prof. Neil Richards agrees, but notes that though privacy is very much alive, it is up for grabs. These are some of the initial thoughts that helped inform his new book, “Why Privacy Matters.” IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy recently caught up with Richards to discuss his new book and why there’s plenty of food for thought in there for privacy pros.
56:0522/12/2021
From the AI Act to the DSA: Catching up on the EU's digital agenda
Though many privacy pros are still grappling with the EU General Data Protection Regulation, the EU is now busy leading a new generation of data regulations. As part of its Digital Single Market strategy, the EU is looking to not only protect data but also to create frameworks that allow for data flows, while aiming to mitigate hate speech and misinformation. Through an ambitious line of of proposed laws – including the Data Act, Data Governance Act, Digital Markets Act, Digital Services Act and the AI Act – the EU is poised to place a slew of new requirements for companies doing business in the region. Though not all privacy-related, privacy pros should be paying attention to this space. To catch up on this flurry of activity, IAPP Editorial Director recently chatted with journalist Luca Bertuzzi.
48:0716/12/2021
A chat with Jim Dempsey about ‘Cybersecurity Law Fundamentals’
Cybersecurity is inextricably connected to privacy in countless ways. Like privacy law and regulation in the U.S., cybersecurity stands on a patchwork quilt of rules, laws, regulations and court cases. Stanford Cyber Policy Center Senior Policy Advisor Jim Dempsey has been teaching cybersecurity law since 2015 and worked in the area for decades, whether as an academic, a government representative on the U.S. Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, or an advocate at the Center for Democracy & Technology. He’s long thought about the cybersecurity space and how it matches up to privacy and data protection. In fact, he’s thought so hard on this subject that he published a new book with the IAPP called “Cybersecurity Law Fundamentals.” IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy recently caught up with Dempsey to discuss cybersecurity’s current state of play, the biggest issues companies face from a world burgeoning with adversaries and what to look for in his new book.
56:2623/11/2021
Is competition and privacy regulation facing a transformative moment?
Data protection and competition enforcement have been on a collision course in recent years. The Big Tech platforms have amassed powerful market share with vast amounts of user data. This inevitable convergence is shaping up on both sides of the Atlantic. U.S. President Joe Biden has appointed notable antitrust proponents to powerful government positions in recent months. And in Brussels, the European Commission has released a slew of draft legislation to help bolster its Digital Single Market efforts, curtail Big Tech hegemony, and promote competition. Journalist Samuel Stolton has been following these developments with an ear to the ground in Brussels. Host Jedidiah Bracy recently caught up with Stolton right as news emerged that Amazon faces a record $888 million fine related to GDPR violations.
52:1624/08/2021
Ohio Lt. Governor Jon Husted discusses the state's privacy bill
On July 13, Ohio Lt. Governor Jon Husted announced the introduction of the Ohio Personal Privacy Act. The law applies to organizations doing business in Ohio or whose products or services target consumers in the state. Businesses with annual gross revenues exceeding $25 million, or process personal data of 100,000 or more Ohio consumers, or derive 50% of gross annual revenues from the sale of personal data would be covered. Like other laws, it does offer some consumer rights, including correction, deletion and portability, as well as an opt-out right for the sale of personal data. Most notably, the OPPA includes a carve out for businesses that reasonably conform with the U.S. National Institution of Standards and Technology’s Privacy Framework. Host Jedidiah Bracy recently caught up with Husted to discuss the bill, the NIST provision, and what the OPPA could mean for the future of privacy law at the state, federal and international levels.
25:0013/08/2021
The rise of the voice-intelligence industry: A discussion with Joseph Turow
Voice-activated products and services are proliferating, while voice-recognition technology is on the rise. In addition to popular voice-activated assistants, call centers are beginning to use advanced voice-intelligence technology in novels ways. The technology could lead to plenty of innovation, but the potential privacy, safety and fairness issues will need some thinking. In his new book "The Voice Catchers: How Marketers Listen In to Exploit Your Feelings, Your Privacy, and Your Wallet," Joseph Turow describes the rise of what he calls the “voice intelligence industry” and how artificial intelligence is enabling personalized marketing and profiling through voice analysis. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy caught up with Turow to discuss the potential privacy issues and what privacy pros and policy makers should be thinking about with this nascent industry.
58:4109/07/2021
Rethinking notice and consent - A chat with Jen King
Notice and consent have been foundational principles in privacy and data protection for decades. But do they provide individuals with the ability to make informed decisions as they navigate products and services? Will laws like the California Privacy Rights Act help change how companies design their privacy notices? For Jennifer King, the Privacy and Data Policy Fellow at Stanford's Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence, the notice-and-consent paradigm as it currently stands is a “farce” that needs an overhaul, not just from a legal standpoint, but also from a human-technology interaction perspective. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy chats with King about what's needed for an effective paradigm shift in this space.
46:3125/06/2021
Rep. Suzan DelBene on the need for a federal US privacy law
Prospects for a federal privacy law in the U.S. ramped up in recent years, but even though data protection is a bipartisan issue, nothing has come close to passing. At the same time, U.S. state activity is swarming, and many countries around the world are developing and implementing their own national privacy laws. So what’s it going to take for the U.S. to pass a federal law? Rep. Suzan DelBene, D-Wash., was the first congressional lawmaker to propose federal privacy legislation in 2021. Her bill received praise from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other industry groups for its approach, but does the bill have what it takes to cross the finish line? The Privacy Advisor Podcast host Jedidiah Bracy recently caught up with DelBene to talk about her proposed bill, the state of play on Capitol Hill, and what it will take for the U.S. to pass federal privacy legislation.
40:0704/06/2021
Exploring emotion-detection technology: A conversation with Ben Bland
Artificial intelligence and machine learning technologies are rapidly developing across virtually all sectors of the global economy. One nascent field is empathic technology, which, for better or worse, includes emotion detection. It is estimated that the emotion detection industry could be worth $56 billion by 2024. However, judging a person's emotional state is subjective and raises a host of privacy, fairness, and ethical questions. Ben Bland has worked in the empathic technology space in recent years and now chairs the IEEE's P7014 Working Group to develop a global standard for the ethics of empathic technology. We recently caught up to discuss the pros and cons of the technology and his work with IEEE.
42:0114/05/2021
US government surveillance, global data flows and the Russia investigation: A chat with April Doss
U.S. government surveillance bubbled back up in headlines in recent weeks. Portugal's data protection authority halted transfers of data to the U.S. after complaints that census data were being sent back to the U.S. The same week, a U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court decision was published, in which it renewed a U.S. surveillance program even though it found some Federal Bureau of Investigation employees illegally accessed email data. This comes as the U.S. and EU try to hammer out a renewed data transfer agreement in the wake of the "Schrems II" decision that invalidated Privacy Shield. April Falcon Doss worked at the U.S. National Security Agency for 13 years. In 2017, Doss joined the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the Russia investigation. She also wrote a book, "Cyber Privacy: Who Has Your Data and Why You Should Care," and took a new job at Georgetown University Law Center. Host Jedidiah Bracy recently caught up with Doss to discuss the state of play of U.S. surveillance law, her new book, what she found out while investigating the 2016 presidential election, and what’s on the horizon with her new gig at Georgetown.
47:4030/04/2021
A discussion about 'dark patterns' with Finn Myrstad
The Norwegian Consumer Council made waves in early 2021 after its complaint to Norway's data protection authority, Datatilsynet, against Grindr resulted in an intention to fine the company $12 million, the highest fine ever levied by the nation’s DPA. Grindr responded to the proposed enforcement action, arguing it has refined its consent mechanism, but the case isn't over. The NCC has long worked with other advocacy organizations to bring protections and awareness for consumers around privacy issues in the marketplace. In 2018, they released an in-depth report on “dark patterns” to demonstrate how companies nudge users into making decisions that may not always be in their best interest. IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy, CIPP, recently caught up with the NCC’s Finn Myrstad to discuss the NCC's case against Grindr and, more broadly, what companies can do to avoid using dark patterns at the expense of their users.
54:4523/03/2021
Is a 'multilateral privacy treaty' the answer to 'Schrems II'?
In the wake of "Schrems II," the future of data transfers is on shaky ground. True, the Biden administration has demonstrated that it’s taking trans-Atlantic data flows seriously after appointing Christopher Hoff in January, not long after Biden was inaugurated. And though both the U.S. Department of Commerce and European Commission are working together in earnest, short of changing its national security laws, what else can be done to prevent another legal challenge and potential invalidation to a future agreement? Baker MacKenzie Global Data Privacy and Security Group Chair Brian Hengesbaugh has an idea. Using his background in international policy and data protection, Hengesbaugh thinks now is the time for the Biden administration to “go big” and initiate an international treaty among democratic nations and their shared values around both human rights and national security. He explains in this latest episode of The Privacy Advisor Podcast.
41:0011/03/2021
The Privacy Advisor Podcast: All things Virginia Consumer Data Protection Act with Odia Kagan
Virginia joined rarified air March 2 after its governor signed the Consumer Data Protection Act into law. Though California was the first state to pass baseline privacy legislation, Virginia was the first to do so absent a ballot initiative. So, what is in Virginia’s CDPA? Where does it overlap with provisions in the California Consumer Privacy Act, California Privacy Rights Act or EU General Data Protection Regulation? What are some early steps businesses should consider as they make preparations? And, what effect will the CDPA — if at all — have on other state privacy laws, and ultimately, on potential federal privacy legislation? These are a few of the issues IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy, CIPP, discussed with Fox Rothschild Partner Odia Kagan, CIPP/E, CIPP/US, CIPM, FIP.
47:2205/03/2021
The Privacy Advisor Podcast: Privacy engineering and design with Nishant Bhajaria
Concepts like “privacy engineering” and “privacy by design” have been in the privacy lexicon for several years, but do we all know or agree about what they mean? What is a privacy engineer? Sure, when we discuss privacy by design, we’re talking about baking privacy considerations in from the start and not just bolting them on after a product or service has been designed, but what is privacy by design in practice? How do you ensure your tech and legal teams can understand each other, and how can you get senior leadership to buy into privacy as a business advantage instead of an obstacle? These are a couple of issues IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy, CIPP, recently discussed with Nishant Bhajaria, head of technical privacy and governance at Uber.
49:5526/02/2021
What's ahead for U.S. state privacy legislation in 2021?
With 2020 finally in the rearview mirror, 2021 looks like it will be filled with potential data privacy legislation in the U.S. Of course, front and center right now resides the Washington Privacy Act, but the Pacific Northwest state isn't the only one in play. So far, legislation has been proposed in Connecticut, Minnesota, New York, Oklahoma and Virginia, among others. This all comes while a new presidential administration takes hold in Washington, D.C., along with a Congress controlled — though by a slim margin — by the Democrats. What should privacy pros make of all this state activity, and what are the prospects for federal privacy legislation? Host Jedidiah Bracy, CIPP, discusses these pressing issues with Husch Blackwell Partner David Strauss.
45:4229/01/2021
Privacy in 2020: A year in review with IAPP's Omer Tene and Caitlin Fennessy
It goes without saying 2020 has been a challenging and difficult year. COVID-19 has affected the world in inalterable ways. And though the pandemic is a sea change for how we live, work and educate our children, it did not lessen the impact of privacy and the privacy profession. In fact, privacy has become an even more front-and-center issue for businesses, governments and individuals. From the “Schrems II” decision in the EU to Proposition 24 in California to new and proposed laws in Brazil, Canada, China and India, there was no shortage of developments in the privacy space. To help assess what just happened in 2020 and what’s ahead in 2021, IAPP Editorial Director Jedidiah Bracy, CIPP, spoke with IAPP VP and Chief Knowledge Officer Omer Tene and Research Director Caitlin Fennessy, CIPP.
58:5418/12/2020
The Privacy Advisor Podcast: Carissa Véliz on privacy, AI ethics and democracy
Artificial intelligence, big data and personalization are driving a new era of products and services, but this paradigm shift brings with it a slate of thorny privacy and data protection issues. Ubiquitous data collection, social networks, personalized ads and biometric systems engender massive societal effects that alter individual self-determination, fracture shared reality and even sway democratic elections. As an associate professor at the University of Oxford's Faculty of Philosophy and the Institute for Ethics in AI, Carissa Véliz has immersed herself in these issues and recently wrote a book, "Privacy Is Power: Why and How You Should Take Back Control of Your Data." In this latest Privacy Advisor Podcast, host Jedidiah Bracy, CIPP, caught up with Véliz to discuss her book and the importance privacy plays in society.
56:3504/12/2020
The Privacy Advisor Podcast: A chat with Alastair Magtaggart on Prop 24
Hard to believe it, but we’re only days away from a fateful vote in California on what’s called Proposition 24. If approved by the residents of California, Prop 24 will put the California Privacy Rights Act on the books. The law will add an additional layer of privacy protections for California residents and a new privacy compliance regime for businesses. Prop 24 has been hotly debated, especially in recent weeks. And the traditional fault lines between consumer advocacy and industry are not what you might suspect. Behind much of Prop 24, and the CCPA before it, is Alastair Mactaggart. With a background in real estate, Mactaggart has quickly become one of the most influential individuals in the U.S. privacy landscape. I recently had a chance to catch up with Alastair to discuss the ins and outs of Prop 24.
45:3727/10/2020
The Privacy Advisor Podcast: How to know who's tracking your data
As a consumer, it can be really difficult to figure out who's tracking your data online. Many companies hide behind algorithms claiming they're the "secret sauce" to their business model, which sometimes frustrates regulators and laymen alike. That's why award-winning journalist Julia Angwin and investigative journalist Surya Mattu, both of the non-profit news organization The Markup, recently developed and released Blacklight, a web site that allows users to scan any site for potential privacy violations, including what's being tracked and who's sharing your personal data. In this episode of The Privacy Advisor Podcast, Angwin and Mattu talk about the tool and why the team is passionate about user empowerment.
38:0609/10/2020
The Privacy Advisor Podcast: The SAFE Data Act, and the latest Senate hearing on federal privacy legislation
There have been no shortage of hearings in the last couple of years on potential federal privacy legislation in the U.S. This week was no exception, as the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation held another. But this hearing was under different circumstances, namely, it was held in the middle of the COVID-19 global pandemic. That garnered some conversation about the need for a comprehensive law more than ever, as did the release this week of the SAFE Data Act, which consolidates previously released legislation into one bill, with some nuance. In this episode of the podcast, IAPP Senior Research Fellow Muge Fazlioglu discusses the bill's provisions, and Sara Collins of Public Knowledge discusses how that featured into this week's hearing.
28:2925/09/2020
The Privacy Advisor Podcast: How do we protect children's privacy in a COVID-dominated school year?
As children around the globe either head back to school or continue their school year, depending on geolocation, many new privacy and data protection concerns present themselves. Whether it be heightened data collection on student health to prevent the spread of COVID-19 at school or new technologies implemented to facilitate virtual learning, there are all sorts of new unprecedented risks. In this episode of The Privacy Advisor Podcast, former White House Senior Advisor for Privacy Marc Groman and the Future of Privacy Forum's Director of the Education Privacy Project Amelia Vance discuss how we can help protect children's privacy — and whose job that is.
01:06:1311/09/2020
The Privacy Advisor Podcast: Um, what just happened in Brazil?
If Brazil gave birth to its data protection law this week, it was a really fast labor. Privacy professionals awoke to the news Thursday that overnight, in an unprecedented move, the Brazilian Senate approved an amendment allowing the General Personal Data Protection Law to go into effect (almost) immediately. The decision reverses a vote Tuesday to delay the implementation of the LGPD to Dec. 31, 2020. How could this have happened? What does it mean for those covered by the law? In this episode of The Privacy Advisor Podcast, Dirceu Santa Rosa talks to Angelique Carson, CIPP/US, about why there's some fear surrounding the news.
32:0328/08/2020
The Privacy Advisor Podcast: So Privacy Shield is invalid, what to do next?
In a highly anticipated decision, Europe's highest court decided July 16 that the EU-U.S. Privacy Shield agreement is invalid. The ruling will impact thousands of companies who'd used Privacy Shield to transfer data from the EU to the U.S. Additionally, the court decided to uphold another data transfer mechanism, standard contractual clauses, but with conditions. The news is a game-changer and casts much uncertainty upon the stability of cross-border agreements. In this episode of The Privacy Advisor Podcast, IAPP Research Director Caitlin Fennessy, Hintze Law's Susan Lyon-Hintze and Future of Privacy Forum's Gabriela Zanfir-Fortuna discuss the decision and what privacy pros should be thinking about in the coming days and weeks.
46:4017/07/2020
The Privacy Advisor Podcast: Are COVID apps doing privacy well?
There's no shortage of tech companies and apps aiming to help thwart the spread of COVID-19, in addition to government efforts. But with so many different apps being deployed and so much sensitive data being swept up, is this one of those moments in time that we're putting safety ahead of privacy in ways that can't be undone? In this episode of The Privacy Advisor Podcast, the Future of Privacy Forum's Polly Sanderson and the International Digital Accountability Council's Quentin Palfrey discuss both the apps themselves as well as the greater ecosystem surrounding contact tracing.
45:5810/07/2020