Becca Stevens is a Grammy-nominated singer songwriter who has released 6+ records of her own music, as well as collaborating with the likes of David Crosby, Jacob Collier, Laura Mvula, Brad Mehldau, Michael McDonald, Snarky Puppy, as well has having a roll in the Broadway show "Illinoise" based on the music of Sufjan Stevens. We talk with Becca about the nitty gritty of touring with an infant, balancing your passion and creativity with parenthood, balancing that passion with a partner who is also an artist, creating within and through grief, family bands, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Becca StevensMom's On The Bus communityThe Tune MammalsBoyd’s ShadowGretchen ParlatoIllinoise MusicalThe Town HallDavid CrosbyClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Brandy Clark is a Grammy winning artist and songwriter, who has had her songs recorded by Sheryl Crow, Miranda Lambert, Kacey Musgraves, Billy Currington, Darius Rucker and more, and co-wrote the music for Tony-winning Broadway show Shucked with Shane McNally. We talk to Brandy about battling self doubt even when it reemerges after you've started seeing success, finding the right community that will validate you and inspire you, her experience with persistence as it took over a decade to have any large career breakthroughs as either a writer or an artist, writing for theater verses a record, being openly gay in the country world, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Brandy ClarkCyndi FormanDave BrainardShucked the MusicalEp 60 - Lori McKennaJessie Jo DillanEp 43 - Gretchen PetersEp 46 - Mary Chapin CarpenterKieth UrbanDwight YoakamBrandi CarlileShangri-La StudioShane McAnallyK.d.langChely WrightFancy HagoodClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Kevn Kinney is best known as the songwriter and singer of the Georgia rock band Drivin N Cryin, who has released 20+ records over the last almost 40 years, some independent and some on major labels, and toured with the likes of Neil Young and The Black Crowes, but Kevn also has numerous solo and side projects, with members of REM, Drive By Truckers, Warren Haynes, John Popper and more. We talk to Kevn about what he calls 'self healing rock and roll', showing up just as you are, unlearning what you've learned so you can be yourself, getting out of writers block by writing about writing, the changing landscape of how you hear music, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Kevn KinneyDrivin n’ CryinEp 73 - Edwin McCainThe Black CrowesDoug LaVallierePeter BuckEp 1 Aaron Lee TasjanIan McLaganThe ReplacementsBad Brains“Let’s Go Dancing”Andy JohnsAnton FierEp 80 John MorelandBruce SpringsteenClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Nicki Bluhm is a singer-songwriter who has released multiple solo records and records with her former band The Gramblers, and has toured/performed/recorded with the likes of Phil Lesh, Aj Croce, Oliver Wood and Todd Snider. Jesse Noah Wilson is a bassist and producer, who currently plays in John Fogerty's band, is a former member of Band of Heathens, and has a studio in Nashville called Rancho Deluxe. We talk with both of them about the insights they've absorbed through working with legendary octogenarians, never losing the drive for the highest quality, tour boundaries, band relationships and band therapists, horses, and more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Nicki BluhmJesse Noah WilsonRancho DeluxeJohn FogertyDead & CompanyThe BandRonnie HawkinsBand of Heathens‘Some Kind of Monster’Trent ReznorPhil LeshTerrapin CrossroadsTaras ProdaniukAnders OsborneClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

John Moreland is a celebrated singer songwriter who has steadily released 10+ records, mostly independently (through Thirty Tigers) and one with 4AD, receiving accolades from the New York Times, Fresh Air, and Pitchfork, and has tour with the likes of Dawes, Patty Griffin, and Jason Isbell. We talk with John about cutting back on his 'team' so he could return to being more hands-on, how having lots of middle men involved separated him from both his audience and his creativity, going back to a flip phone, jealousy as positive motivation, following your own timeline, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:John MorelandJames BlakeEp 7 - BJ Barham (American Aquarium)Ep 10 - Joe PugColter WallTyler ChildersBenjamin TodEp 64 - Rhett MillerChris StaplesZadie Smith on Ezra KleinJonah HillGillian WelchIris DementLucinda WilliamsClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

The Lone Bellow have released a 5 records on various imprints of Sony Records and Dualtone Records, hitting the Billboard 200 and getting nominated for Americana Awards, worked with producers such as Dave Cobb, and Aaron Dessner of The National, supported Kacey Musgraves and appeared on Letterman, Kimmel, Conan amongst others. We talk to them about healthy conflict in the group, and intentional communication to keep things progressing, betting on themselves and moving away from both outside producers and record labels, leading your team rather than waiting on them, ownership of your art and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:The Lone BellowAaron DessnerDave CobbCharlie Peacock'Sound Man' by Glyn JohnsJon LowRed Clay StraysChris StapletonJay HieronDualtoneThe Civil WarsClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Tim Easton has released over 13 solo records, 4+ with his bands (Haynes Boys, Freelan Barons, Easton Stagger Phillips), appeared on records by Lucinda Williams, Cory Branan, Otis Gibbs and more, worked with EMI publishing and New West Records, busked through most of Europe, and worked with musicians such as Mike Campbell, Jim Keltner, Tift Merrit and Greg Leisz. We talk to Tim about remaining teachable, turning a passion for fishing in the Alaskan frontier into a solid touring scene, harmonizing to the ABC's in the car with his daughter, boundaries, dreaming out loud, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Tim EastonFolk AllianceDavid SedarisTom MasonOtis GibbsChappell RoanBilly HartTupacBiggie SmallsEp 73 - Edwin McCainWilcoFleetwood MacTom PettyRoger MillerClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Madi Diaz has released 10 records/EPs since 2007, has toured with Kacey Musgraves, Waxahatchee, My Morning Jacket, was a touring member of Harry Style's band, has performed on Fallon, Carson Daly, and countless festivals around the world, and is included on the Far Cry 5 soundtrack. We chat with Madi about resilience, staying focused and driven through a 'cacophony of almosts', putting yourself in the right environment to be creative and productive, songwriters as the backbone of the industry, gratitude for the ability to create in the moment, being pulled off stage after 1 song as a solo opener at Wembley Stadium, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Madi DiazHarry StylesKacey MusgravesWembley StadiumThe Tonight Show with Jimmy FallonWaxahatcheeEp 7 - BJ Barham (American Aquarium)Click here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Amy Helm has released 4 solo records, 4 with her band Ollabelle, and appeared on 8 of her father Levon Helm's records, as well as records by artists as diverse as Rosanne Cash, William Bell, Tracy Bonham, Trans-Siberian Orchestra, and a handful of her stepfather Donald Fagan's solo and late Steely Dan records. We talk with Amy about taking care of yourself like an athlete, leaving your family behind to tour for long stretches of time, and music cooperatives, and many of the lessons Levon instilled in her, from being a blue collar worker-type musician to constantly trying to better yourself, your craft, and your knowledge.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Amy HelmOlabelleEp 57 Larry Campbell + Teresa WilliamsEp 73 Edwin McCainLevon HelmSteely DanRick DankoLevon Helm StudiosEp 12 Leyla McCallaLevon’s Midnight RambleClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Nicole Atkins has released 6 records on labels such as Columbia, Razor & Tie, and Thirty Tigers, toured with Stevie Nicks, David Byrne, Fatboy Slim, Nick Cave, and Spoon, and has side project with Jim Sclavunos of Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds. We talk to Nicole about remaining child-like in your creativity, understanding that there are a lot of chances in life, catching the wind when and where it blows, enjoyment vs achievement, stepping up in service to others when you're stuck in your own head, keeping creative friends, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Nicole AtkinsWendy ParrModern Elder AcademyChip ConleyBinky GriptiteDap KingsApril CentroneEp 38 - John DoeTore JohanssonRazor & TieRick RubinAdeleEP 49 - Langhorne SlimJim SclavunousEP 27 - Mary GauthierDavid Byrne - How Music WorksTeddy ThompsonMichael KiwanukaEP 56 - GusterStevie Nicks  Weyes BloodLinda Ronstadt: The Sound of My Voice docRegina SpektorClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

This is a special guest episode feature us on the Basic Folk Podcast, in conversation with hosts Cindy Howes and singer-songwriter Lizzie No, as well as author Kim Ruehl. We talk about all things ambition - the good and the ugly, and how we all navigate, accept, and work with it in our varied creative careers.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Basic Folk PodcastLizzie NoCindy HowesKim RuehlMichaela AnneAaron Shafer-HaissClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Edwin McCain has had 2 singles hit the Top 40 ('I'll Be' and 'I Could Not Ask For More'), released 11 albums, 5 of which have been on the Billboard 200, hosted a syndicated show on Sirius XM, and written and produced a series for Animal Planet. We talk with him about artists as the ambassadors of possibility, knowing what enough is, side hustles and putting your creativity into different outlets (he started, grew, and sold a construction business amongst other endeavors), stepping away from the industry to raise a family, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Edwin McCainEp 61 - Jim Sonefeld Ep 70 - Miko MarksLee BriceMatt RamseyHootieJason FlomLava RecordsLafayette'sOld DominionRed RocksAnimal PlanetDavid WilcoxKevn KinneyAshley McBrydeRebecca Lynn HowardEp 64 - Rhett MillerClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Joseph is a trio of sisters who have released 3 records via ATO, performed on Fallon, Conan, The Today Show, Ellen, Jools Holland, at Coachella, Lollapalooza, Newport Folk, Glastonbury, Outside Lands, and Bonnaroo, and supported The Shins, James Bay, Amos Lee, and more. They recently announced that Allie is choosing to step away from the band, so we discuss this at length - how she came to the decision, the other sisters' reception, what that looks like moving forward both creatively and emotionally, as well as how they navigate family dynamics in the band, approach everything with intentionality, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:JosephBonnie Raitt on 'Wiser Than Me'JD McPhersonCayamoLizzoKasey MusgravesThe ShinsFiona AppleWiser Than Me - Julie Luis DreyfusPatti SmithThe StavesEp 13 - Becca MancariClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

We have a special episode this week - we are sharing Sarah Jarosz's conversation on Basic Folk podcast! Sarah is a multi-Grammy winning mandolin player and songwriter who has collaborated with the likes of Chris Thile, the Live From Here house band, Bela Fleck, Daniel Tashian, Ruston Kelly, and Natalie Hemby. In this conversation, Sarah and hosts Cindy Howes and Lizzie No talk about her experience with ​confidence using the ​Dunning–Kruger effect, in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities. AKA Fake it till you make, AKA Leap and the net will appear. She also talks about her parents' influence on her early musicality and how her mom is doing with her cancer remission. An overall theme of this conversation is that Sarah never lost sight of her goal: keeping it all about the music and don’t let noise get in the way of your important work.More on Basic Folk:Basic Folk, honest conversations with folk musicians, features hosts Cindy Howes and the musician/known communist Lizzie No. The podcast approaches interviews with warmth, humor and insightful questions. Basic Folk fosters the folk community, but our definition of “folk” is extremely broad, so you’ll hear interviews from Molly Tuttle, Ben Harper, The Lone Bellow and many more.You can listen to Basic Folk on The Bluegrass Situation Podcast Network, wherever you get podcasts or at BasicFolk.comGet more access and support this show by subscribing to The Other 22 Hours on Patreon, right here.Links:Sarah JaroszBasic FolkBasic Folk on IGLizzie No on IGSocial Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Miko Marks is a singer/songwriter from Oakland California, who was a member of the CMT Next Women of Country class of 2022, has played the Grand Ol Opry, won multiple Independent Music Awards, and stepped away from a professional career for over a decade to raise her child and be present for her family. We talk about the choices to step back, as well as to return to performing and recording, how that changed her approach and outlook, grounding in your own path, making your world small, living the experiences you are having, your career as a spiritual journey, and more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Miko MarksPatti Smith'Wiser Than Me' PodcastCMA FestRed Tone RecordsKelly McCartneyEp 55 -  Rissi PalmerEp 14 - Mark ErelliEp  65 - Elliot BronsonClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Lilly Hiatt has released 5+ records via New West Records, has toured with Drive by Truckers, Margo Price, Aaron Lee Tasjan, has been nominated for Americana Association awards, and is the daughter of singer/songwriter John Hiatt. We talk to Lilly about learning to care about things outside of your career, protecting your inner knowing, deleting your instagram account at 20k followers and staying off of it, not paying attention to numbers, lessons learned from watching her father's career up close her whole life, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Lilly HiattEp 1 - Aaron Lee TasjanEp 6 - Andrew CombsJohn HiattMaya De VitryEp 10 - Joe PugEp  44 - Laura VeirsNo Doubt - 'Simple Kind of Life'The 5 SpotEp 66 - Sean + Sara WatkinsClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Evan Honer turned viral success of a Tyler Childers cover (50mil + streams), into success for his own music with over 250mil streams, and multiple 7-figure offers from most major labels - all of which he decline in favor of staying independent, opting to start his own label (Cloverdale) and helping other young artists gain streaming traction while maintaining ownership of their art. Our youngest guest to date, we talk to Evan about betting on yourself, navigating the frequent ups and downs and direction changes of a social media-centric approach to your career, using your platform and reach to boost and platform your peers, the simple pleasures when you get back from tour, and more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Evan HonerCloverdale RecordsNDPNDT PodcastNic DConnor PricePine GroveNoah KahanZach BryanThe Black KeysEp 61 - Jim SonefeldJon BellionLizzie McAlpineStemKyle McAvoyEp 7 - BJ Barham (American Aquarium)Click here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Jesse Boykins III is a Jamaican-American, Grammy-nominated singer, songwriter, producer, and creative director who has released 5+ records independently and via Def Jam records, collaborated with Steve Lacy, Charlie Puth, Theophilus London, Calvin Harris, and others. We talk at length about advocating for yourself and your creative vision, knowing the tools you have in your toolbox and using the right one at the right time, honoring the mission of the project, saying yes to collaboration to lift others art, simplifying everything, and more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Jesse Boykins IIIDef JamBrooklyn First SaturdaysBrooklyn MuseumThe Accountant (movie)MiguelWilcoUMPGNinja TuneHarvey Mason JrCongo SquareClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Sara + Sean Watkins are Grammy winning musicians that are 2/3 of Nickel Creek (which they started with Chris Thile as kids), The Watkins Family Hour (which features Fiona Apple, Benmont Tench, Jon Brion, John C Riley, and rotating cast of incredible musicians), their own solo records, Sara is in I'm With Her (with Sara Jarosz & Aiofe O'Donovan), as well as collaborations with Jackson Browne, John Mayer, Blake Mills, Dawes, and many others. We talk about the power in diverse skillsets we gain both touring in a large variety of situations as well as various levels of business responsibilities, authenticity and humbleness (versus the emperors new clothes), never taking situations for granted, faking it, and a whole lot of laughs.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Sara WatkinsSean WatkinsWatkins Family HourNickel CreekI'm With HerDan WilsonBryan SuttonLargoEp 45 - Glen Phillips'Let's Go (So We Can Get Back)' - Jeff TweedyVince GillThe Station InnJenny LewisChris ThileMichael DavesBenmont TenchThe DecemberistsJohn PrineEp 5 - Shovels & RopeClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Eliot Bronson has released 6+ records over the past 12 years, both independently and via labels - with a handful produced by Dave Cobb - and he has also won numerous acclaimed songwriting competitions such as Kerrville and Chris Austin contest at Merlefest. Ditching the traditional label/publicist/manager route, Eliot has established a vibrant path that is 100% DIY, community-focused, and as he explains - more fulfilling than ever. We talk at length about that process and how he found himself there, debate the necessity of a whole label or publicity team, explore the idea of the artist in the center of the crowd versus up high and removed on stage, mindfulness practices, and more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Eliot Bronson30A FestivalEp 45 - Glen PhillipsEp 46 - Mary Chapin CarpenterCBS Saturday Morning'That Thing You Do'Sam Harris - Waking Up'Zen Mind Beginners Mind'Patty GriffinEmmylou HarrisChris Austin Song Contest (MerleFest)Gillian WelchTelluride Troubadour Songwriting ContestKerrvile Songwriting ContestMelody WalkerRocky Mountain Folks FestClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Rhett Miller is the lead singer for The Old 97's, a solo artist, a podcast host (Wheels Off, with almost 200 episodes), an author and a mental health advocate who has released records via labels such as Elektra, ATO and Verve, worked with artists such as Jon Brion, Rosanne Cash, The Decemberists, and Tori Amos, and fronted The Old 97's for over 30 years. We talk about the difference between feeling deserving and entitlement, navigating envy traps, diversification for creative pursuits and financial fear, authenticity and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Rhett MillerThe Old 97'sWheels Off PodcastParson's School of Design/The New SchoolLittle, Brown PublishingDan Santat'This Is What I Do'Rounder RecordsElektraNick LoweNeko CaseDavid BowieRosanne Cash'Big Brown Eyes'Click here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Chris Smither has released 20+ records so far in his 58 year career, had his songs recorded by the likes of Bonnie Raitt (who had a hit with his song 'Love Me Like a Man', and whom he's had a long working relationship with) and Emmylou Harris, and as you can imagine, he's seen all of the ups and downs and twists and turns in almost 6 decades of this career. We talk with him about all of this hard earned wisdom and experience, his zest for practicing, learning when to grab the reins and when to ride, his myriad hobbies including a voracious appetite for reading, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Chris SmitherClub PassimBetsy SigginsCharles River Valley BoysBonnie Raitt'Love Me Like a Man'David GoodrichStephen BrutonCS Lewis - 'The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe'Lord of the Rings Trilogy (book)Ep 46 - Mary Chapin CarpenterClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Ruby Amanfu is a singer, songwriter, activist, chef, and actress who has been nominated for Grammy's (song of the year) for her work with H.E.R as well as Brandi Carlile and Alicia Keys, she was a member of Jack White's band, is producer and songwriter for the ABC series "Queens", has placed songs on ABC, CBS, MTV, amongst others, worked with Patti Labelle, Norah Jones, John Prine, Sara Bareilles, and was part of Beyonce's 'Lemonade' album. We chat with her about owning your truth, prioritizing personal connection before professional, balancing the need to earn with your passion, showing up in integrity, the parallels between cooking and creating music, activism and using your voice and creativity, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Ruby AmanfuSam & RubyPorter's CallAndy LittleMusiCaresLeanne WomackWillie NelsonLove RisingBeyonceClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Jim Sonefeld is best known as the drummer (and songwriter) for Hootie & the Blowflish, but he has also released a handful of solo records and written a memoir title 'Swimming with the Blowfish - Hootie, Healing, and One Hell of a Ride'. We talk with Jim about the start and rise of Hootie, how having the 10th best selling US record of all time impacted his writing and creativity, their fall from prominence and the addictions that followed, finding sobriety and reinvention, lessons learned throughout this roller coaster, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Jim SonefeldHootie & the Blowfish'Swimming with The Blowfish' bookAtlantic RecordsDavid LettermanDarius RuckerR.E.M.Francis DunneryDean FelberThe Rolling StonesClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Lori McKenna is Grammy-winning singer songwriter who has released 12+ records on Warner, Signature Sounds, Thirty Tigers, and written countless songs that have been number 1 hits for the likes of Faith Hill, Tim McGraw, Taylor Swift, Little Big Town, Lady Gaga, Maren Morris, Thomas Rhett, The Highwomen, and Mandy Moore, to name a few. All of this widespread acclaim started later in life for Lori (at 36, with 5 children), so we talk with her about that experience, how being in Boston vs Nashville has impacted her career, how and if her success has affected her process, her thoughts on touring and the requirements of an artist career beyond the songs, and much more, all well soaking up her immense gratitude for it all.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Lori McKennaEp 14 - Mark ErelliEp 27 - Mary GauthierWarner RecordsKris DelmhorstBarry DeanCourtney HartmanLiz RoseHillary LindseyGuy ClarkJustin VernonAaron DessnerBig Red MachineBecky FlukeEp 43 - Gretchen PetersEp 3 - The Milk Carton KidsHardly Strictly Bluegrass FestivalBrandy ClarkClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Tyler Ramsey - former guitar player for Band of Horses - has released 5 solo albums before, during, and after his stint in the band. We got to chat with Tyler about everything from surfing the seasons of creativity with patience and acceptance, his decision making process behind both joining Band of Horses (leaving a solo career) and leaving the band (private jets, selling out arenas all over the world), finding the right venue for your music, not just your ego, demonstrating a creative life path to your children, and so much more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Tyler RamseyBand of HorsesPhil EkJim Carrey dad clipBe Here Now - AshevilleLeo KottkeMadison Square GardenRed RocksBon IverFleet FoxesCoachellaBonnarooNewport Folk FestEp 7 - BJ Barham (American Aquarium)Nick Cave's Red Hand FilesClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

The Secret Sisters are a Grammy-nominated (sister) duo from Alabama who have put out 5 records, and navigated a rollercoaster of highs and lows from being signed to Universal records and produced by T Bone Burnett, getting dropped, to lawsuits with a manager, bankruptcy, opening for (and being produced by) Brandi Carlisle, and onto a Grammy nomination. We talk about that ride, the lessons learned and experience earned, motherhood, doing the hard internal work and how that improves your creativity, putting the play back in music, and more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:The Secret SistersRay LamontagneGregory Alan IsakovEp  57 - The Brother BrothersEp 4 - Emily Scott RobinsonYuval Noah Harari"Sapiens"Ep  50 - Sierra HullEp  46 - Mary Chapin CarpenterClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

The Brother Brothers are identical twins who have released 5 records together, as well as touring/collaborating with Courtney Marie Andrews, Lake Street Dive, Big Thief, Sarah Jarosz, Keb Mo and being part of the early incarnations of Hadestown the musical. We chat with them about how authenticity lasts in this industry, the theory that everyone (musician/artist) just needs autonomy and validation, following the momentum, economics, and we share some good old tour horror stories.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:The Brother BrothersAmericanaFestAnais MitchellHadestownEp  10 - Joe PugEp 12 - Leyla McCallaStephane GrappelliTaylor SwiftZach BryanLevi TurnerClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Guster formed in 1991, and has since released 9 records, had a Top 40 hit, a gold record, played Woodstock 99, started the label Ocho Mule, and is still growing today. We sat down with lead singer Ryan Miller, who is also a film composer, sometimes writer for The Atlantic, budding Broadway composer/writer and a former host on Vermont Public TV. We talk with Ryan about managing so many spinning plates, running towards fear, parallels between a music career and entrepreneurship (iterating, failing, learning, improving, and then repeating), managing personalities and wants over a 33-year career, and so much more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:GusterRyan Miller"Making Friends with Ryan Miller" - Vermont TV"Bardo" - Vermont TVReverb (non-profit)Ryan's Atlantic ArticleJoe PisapiaEp 45 - Glen PhillipsPJ Vogt - Molly RingwaldNicole AtkinsEp 38 - John DoeMike GordonNoah KahanGrace PotterBonny Light HorsemanClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Rissi Palmer signed her first record deal at 19, with her debut in 2007 she was the first black woman to make the country music charts in over 2 decades, she has toured with the likes of Taylor Swift, and the Eagles, appeared on Oprah, Good Morning America, at the White House, the Grand Ole Opry, and Lincoln Center, is the host of Apple Music's 'Color Me Country', and the director of the Color Me Country Artist Grant Fund. We talk about one of our favorite topics - saying no, prioritizing self care, speaking for those people who cannot speak for themselves, the music business as a meritocracy (ahem) and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Rissi Palmer'Color Me Country' - Apple MusicColor Me Country Artist Grant FundTami NeilsonDorothy DandrigeEp 43 - Gretchen PetersClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Ana Egge - who Lucinda Williams calls 'the folk music Nina Simone' - has released 13+ records, starting with her first in 1994, and including some produced by Steve Earle, is a luthier, and has toured with John Prine, Shawn Colvin, Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Ron Sexmith, Lucinda, and Iris Dement amongst others. In one of our more intriguingly esoteric conversations, we talk a lot about meditation practice and how that influences your creativity and approach to your career as a whole, as well as how Ana stumbled across her incredible practice of co-writing with her own dreams!Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Ana EggeDave SangerAsleep at the WheelEsther PerelGeorge StraitFolk AllianceWestern State CenterEric WardSwedenborgEp 44 - Laura VeirsClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Larry Campbell and Teresa Williams have released 4 albums as a duo, and were members of Levon Helm's band for over a decade, but the married couple also have a long musical history prior to becoming a formal duo. In addition to producing Levon's later career Grammy-winning records, Larry has played with Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Elvis Costello, Emmylou Harris, Judy Collins, Willie Nelson, Shania Twain, and Tracy Chapman, to name a few. We have a great conversation about being in it for the joy of getting to make music, balancing being members of large-scale tours (including a great story of them on the road with Jackson Browne), prioritizing self care vs being a workaholic, and the Tao of Levon.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Larry Campbell & Teresa WilliamsFelix McTeigueRoger FriedmanTony LeoneBob DylanJackson BrowneFurther"Ain't In It For My Health" docNonesuch RecordsSinead O'Connor/Shane McGowan TributeHardly Strictly Bluegrass FestivalClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Morgxn is an indie-pop artist born and raised in Nashville who has had songs on the top 10 Billboard alternative charts, that Billie Eilish has personally named as inspiration, he has songs featuring Sara Bareilles, and has performed at Lollapalooza, Bumbershoot, on Jimmy Kimmel and more. We talk with Morgxn about the struggles of being in an industry that do a whole lot to actively support artists, the work it can take to break through imposter syndrome and identify as an artist, when not to quit, having enough seats at the table for everyone, farming, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:MorgxnWhat Is Vital ProjectJames BlakeWet LegFlight of the ConcordsTiesto Marshall AltmanEp  23 - Adia Victoria"Real Artist's Don't Starve"Dan WilsonSara BareillesVance PowellClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Over the last 30+ years Steve Poltz has released more than 14 records both solo and with his 90's band The Rugburns, on his own label as well as Mercury Records, as well as a longtime collaboration with Jewell including co-writing her hit "You Were Meant for Me." We talk with Steve about everything from having a stroke on stage, mid-song (and continuing to sing the song), all the way to viewing life as a treasure hunt, slaying the dragons, his infectious positivity and optimism, and getting pinned to the mat.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Steve PoltzThe Rugburns30A Songwriter FestivalCayamoGrateful Dead - "American Beauty"Grateful Dead - "Workingman's Dead"The ReplacementsJewellWillie RandolphDan BernRocky Mountain Folks FestEp 28 - The Wood BrothersAJ CroceAndy FrascoChris GelbudaThe Buddy & Jim ShowClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Sierra Hull is the definition of child prodigy - she made her Grand Ole Opry debut at 10, played Carnegie Hall at 12, and signed her first record deal at 13. She has since gone on to become the first woman to win IBMA Mandolinist of the year (3x in a row), be nominated for a Grammy, perform with Garth Brooks, Indigo Girls, and Allison Krauss and Gillian Welch, and perform at the White House. We chat with Sierra about growing up learning on stage with people 3x her age, the contrast of then studying at Berklee on a full scholarship, to using disappointments as fuel, the power of seeing women represented on album covers and in the press, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Sierra HullEp 21 - Alice GerrardMichael DavesBerklee College of MusicMark RadabaughBela FleckAllison KraussCharlie WorshamRenaissance - Beyonce docChris ThileAllison BrownRhonda VincentClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Langhorne Slim has released 10 records over the last 20 years on a handful of labels (currently Dualtone Records), played festivals ranging from Newport Folk to Lollapalooza, late night shows from Letterman to Conan, and has had his music used in many many television shows and commercials. We go deep and vulnerable pretty quickly on everything from addiction/sobriety, the relentless inner monologue, mountain top envy, his new-found parenthood, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Langhorne SlimEp 42 - Robert EllisPatty GriffinJeff RatnerEp 46 - Mary Chapin CarpenterClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Devon Gilfillian has released records on both Capital and Fantasy Records, played on Colbert and Kimmel, and opened for The Brothers Osborne, My Morning Jacket, Mavis Staples, Gladys Knight and more. We chat with him about how routine can create freedom in your life, the importance of physical wellbeing both on the road and at home, building a machine that can provide for your people, using your platform and voice as an artist, and all points in between.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Devon GilfillianWeGo City BusEp  26 - Katie Pruitt"The Artist's Way"Sam Harris Waking UpLevon & The Hawks (pre-The Band)Jason IsbellT-Bone BurnettEp 3 - The Milk Carton KidsBonoNina SimoneClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Margo Price and Jeremy Ivey are both artists, songwriters, and are married with kids. They've released records on Loma Vista, Anti-, Third Man and independently, and under Margo's project have been nominated for a Grammy, played SNL, won awards, and more. We talk about balancing the many rolls in their lives, both together and independently, creating together while also parenting together, going from having a band together (Buffalo Clover) to 'separate' careers, and so many metaphors from table settings to orange soda.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Margo PriceJeremy IveyThe 5 Spot“Desperate and Depressed”Oscar WildeChris StapletonEp 3 - The Milk Carton KidsErin RaeAnti- Ep 46 - Mary Chapin CarpenterClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Mary Chapin Carpenter is an 18x Grammy nominated, 5x Grammy winning, 6x platinum-selling singer-songwriter with over 16 albums and decades of touring so far in her career. We talk with Mary Chapin about her songwriting process, including her need for solitude and her practice of "song walking," we talk about how she still faces rejection even with all of her accolades and commercial success, how common and easy it is to personalize mistreatment from people in power (and how to combat that), and much more on this very candid final episode of Season 1.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Mary Chapin CarpenterCarl SandburgTaylor Swift Eras TourSteve PoltzEp 43 - Gretchen PetersEp 22 - Group Text (Erin Rae, Caroline Spence, Kelsey Waldon & Michaela Anne)Kelly ClarksonEp 16 - Rodney CrowellRose CousinsClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Glen Phillips, lead singer of Toad the Wet Sprocket as well as a solo artist, has released 7 records with the band - 2 of which are multiplatinum - and 7 solo albums, spanning a career that started 37 years ago when Glen was just 15 years old. We talk about creating, and navigating the industry as both an active platinum-selling band, after the break-up, and now as the band has reformed, focusing and prioritizing the sheer joy of creating, how community can inspire and inform your creativity, and more.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Glen PhillipsToad the Wet SprocketLargoMichael FlatleyBaryshnikovMatt the ElectricianBob Schneider"Fear"Trevor HornDavid Sylvian"Dulcinea"Chuck Plotkin"Coil"Ep  38 - John DoeGarrison StarrDavid MeadRuby Amanfu"Real Artists Don't Starve" - Jeff GoinsEp 3 - Milk Carton KidsWatkins Family HourClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Laura Veirs is a prolific singer-songwriter with over 14 albums released on her own label as well as Nonesuch Records and Bella Union, is a member of case/lang/veirs (w/ Niko Case & kd lang) and is a painter, (brief) podcast host, and author of a children's book on Elizabeth Cotton. We talk about staying aware of the beauty and joy that surrounds you, planning (and taking) a sabbatical year as a self-employed creative, ceding control of your social media accounts, stage fright, running your own international label, maintaining ownership of your rights, being a tortoise surrounded by hares, and much more.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Laura Veirscase/lang/veirsCarl BlauThe Ryman"July Flame"case/lang/veirs - "Best Kept Secret"Tim YoungBella UnionNonesuch RecordsEp 27 - Mary GauthierClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Gretchen Peters is a Grammy-nominated, CMA Song of the Year winning member of the Songwriters Hall of Fame, who had an extensive touring, has released 14 albums (mostly on her own label), and had songs recorded by the likes of Etta James, Martina McBride, George Strait, Patty Loveless, Shania Twain, Neil Diamond, Trisha Yearwood, and Bryan Adams, just to name a few. This episode jumps right in with Gretchen's decision, and the public (and private) reactions, to retire from touring, and we go on to talk about the powerful effects of recalibrating your definition of success, bucking industry expectations in the name of your creativity and artistry, the strength of artists, and so much more.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Gretchen PetersMartina McBride - "Independence Day"Farm AidPatty Loveless - "You Don't Even Know Who I Am"Rosanne CashJeff BlackEp 39 - Joe HenryEp  16 - Rodney CrowellRodney Crowell Song CampClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Robert Ellis is a singer-songwriter, producer, and multi-instrumentalist who has put out 6 albums both self-released and on New West Records, and having worked on records by Jamestown Revival, White Denim, Khruangbin, Nicole Atkins and others. We chat about the many benefits of mindfulness and being in the present moment, using adversity and tough times to return to having fun creating, parenting and perceptions, sobriety, and just saying f*ck it let's try something new!Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Robert EllisNiles City SoundSam HarrisLoch KellyRabbi Hillel (Hillel the Elder)Ep 10 - Joe Pug"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" - Robert M. PersigSheryl Crow doc"Effortless Mastery" - Kenny WernerCognitive Behavioral TheoryTara BrachEp 12 - Leyla McCallaClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Samantha Crain has released 8 records, started touring at 19, eventually supporting artists such as The Avett Brothers, Neutral Milk Hotel, Brandi Carlile, Buffy Sainte-Marie, Gregory Alan Isakov, The Mountain Goats, and MANY others, as well as joining First Aid Kit for an appearance on 'Conan', and self-producing many of her own records, as well as records for other artists. We explore the power of asking questions, both as a way to learn more in craft and business and as a means of self-advocacy in business dealings, we talk about the positives and negatives of growing a substantial career in a non-music town (Norman, OK in her instance), the many benefits of a meditation practice, and much more in this wide-ranging conversation.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Samantha CrainJohanna SamuelsEp 22 - Caroline Spence, Erin Rae, Kelsey Waldon, Michaela AnneLucy RoseEp 7 - BJ Barham (American Aquarium)Ep 11 - LuciusJon BatisteLori McKennaRamseur RecordsClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

John Craigie is a singer-songwriter based out of Portland OR but who spent years living on the road, has released 12+ albums, and toured with the likes of Jack Johnson, Gregory Alan Isakov, Shawn Colvin, Sean Hayes and more. Craigie is known for his engaging live show that weaves a hefty dose of storytelling - in the vein of Arlo Gutherie - as well as comedy between his songs, so we send a lot of time talking about the art of storytelling and it's place in a concert, comedy, how he sustains such an intense tour schedule, drawing inspiration from communities of other artists such as painters and architects, debunking the optics fallacy and how finding the right venue for your show is much more powerful. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:John CraigieMaya DeVitryArlo GuthrieSeinfeldGeorge CarlinLewis BlackDane CookTodd SnyderLoudon WainwrightEp 3 - The Milk Carton KidsFrank Lloyd WrightThe LouvreClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

Joe Henry is a songwriter, producer, and writer who has released over 15 solo records on labels such as A&M and Anti-, and has produced records for a long list of artists such as Bonnie Raitt, Elvis Costello, Solomon Burke, Allen Toussaint, Rodney Crowell, Aimee Mann, Ani Difranco, Teddy Thompson, John Doe, and more. We have a diverse conversation about keeping yourself in the creative stream, knowing when to step away, acceptance, and much surrounding the Tom Waits quote, "How you do anything is how you do everything."Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:Joe HenryNonesuch RecordsThe Bright MississippiAllen ToussaintVillage VanguardT Bone BurnettEp 16 - Rodney CrowellRodney Crowell Songwriting CampRandy NewmanFlannery O'ConnorEudora WeltyNathaniel WestExperience Music ProjectMeshell NdegeocelloMose AllisonMike ReidJoe Henry - ScarClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

John Doe is the co-founder and longtime member of the legendary LA punk band X, he's released numerous solo records, he stars in the recently released film DOA, as well as movies such as Boogie Nights, Roadhouse, Great Balls of Fire, and Brokedown Palace and TV shows such as Roswell, One Tree Hill and Law & Order, and is co-author of the book 'Under the Big Black Sun' with Tom DeSavia, chronicling the LA punk scene. Needless to say we talk about sustaining and foster a diverse set of creative endeavors, identifying ones own ego to make for smoother relationships,  embracing your role as a creator and sticking to it, the creative pitfalls of major label deals, longevity, and quite a bit more.Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:John DoeXDOA (film)'Under The Big Black Sun'Exene CervenkaThe Whisky a Go GoThe StarwoodDave AlvinRoswellXponential FestFugaziAdam AntSlash RecordsThe BagsThe Go-GosClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

David Wax Museum is a critically-acclaimed indie folk band lead by husband/wife duo David Wax and Suz Slezak, who have been praised by NPR, Tiny Desk, the New York Times, Newport Folk, and even had a song featured at Pete Buttigieg's wedding. We talk about how they built and have grown a strong, enduring, grassroots community around their music that helps them remain independent, how and what they've learned about both creating and recharging together and separately as a couple, positive discoveries of the pandemic times that have reshaped their career, mental health and it's impact on their schedules, and creating entire artistic ecosystems. Get more access, including exclusive content, advance knowledge of our guests and the ability to have them answer your questions, special workshops, and more by becoming a member of our Patreon, at this link.Links:David Wax MuseumSuz SlezakSuz's SubstackEp 28 - The Wood BrothersThe WoesClub PassimPatreonEp 30 - Duquette JohnstonEp 3 - The Milk Carton KidsSubstackClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.