It’s no secret that the nature of threats are evolving; however, the C-suite narrowing in cyber threats leaves room for error that no company can afford. The physical side of threats is still disregarded by many leadership teams, and it will take forward thinking leaders to stay committed to using common operating information, or making sure teams are looking at data in the same way. In this episode, Chuck and Fred discuss the convergence of technology in the executive protection space, the concept of “edge risk,” and the impact of COVID on the industry. They also cover the role of the human mind in assessing threats and the risk of over reliance on the IoT in today’s culture. Charles (Chuck) Randolph is the Senior Director of Operations and Intelligence for AT Risk International. He leads a team whose role is to fuse and report on threat intelligence and other risk trends which affect the company. Prior to this role, Chuck was responsible for transforming the executive protective, event security and intelligence services to function beyond their traditional roles to those of strategic enablers at Microsoft. He is also a founding member of the Corporate Executive Protection Leadership Council (CEPLC) and the International Protective Security Board (IPSB).

When corporate security teams or law enforcement officers are on the front lines dealing with a crisis, they need more than a weapon on their belt to diffuse the situation. The art of negotiation and communicating to lower tension and stall for time is underrated and overlooked. Gary Noesner, former FBI hostage negotiator, knows this firsthand, which is why he authored a book on the topic — Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator. In this episode, Fred and Gary discuss what skills are needed to be an effective hostage negotiator, the curriculum he built to support the role, and changes he foresees in the space. Gary Noesner retired from the FBI in 2003 following a 30 year career as an investigator, instructor, and negotiator. He was an FBI hostage negotiator for 23 years of his career, retiring as the Chief of the FBI’s Crisis Negotiation Unit, Critical Incident Response Group, the first person to hold that position. He has appeared in numerous television documentaries about hostage negotiation, terrorism, and kidnapping and has been interviewed in Time, Forbes, the New Yorker, the Washington Post, and the New York Times.

In this interview series, we spotlight leaders recognized in the Protective Intelligence Honors who have had a lasting impact on the security world as we know it. It is our hope that their insights on leadership and the timeless practice of security and protection will inspire you in your own efforts. For nearly half a century Tony has trained corporations, governments, law enforcement agencies and military organizations in over 40 countries to avoid vehicle violence. In his conversation with Fred, Tony shares what led him to establish International Security Driver Association (IDSA), lessons learned along the way, and where he sees the role of technology factor into the future of physical security.

In this interview series, we spotlight leaders recognized in the Protective Intelligence Honors who have had a lasting impact on the security world as we know it. It is our hope that their insights on leadership and the timeless practice of security and protection will inspire you in your own efforts. To say that Gabrielle is passionate about protecting victims and thoroughly assessing a case is an understatement. She has personally assessed and managed thousands of cases of inappropriate pursuit, threats, and harassment, including workplace violence, domestic violence, and public figure/executive pursuit. In her conversation with Fred, Gabrielle shares what led her to launch her career in threat assessment, lessons learned along the way, and where she sees the physical security industry evolving in the years to come.

In this interview series, we spotlight leaders recognized in the Protective Intelligence Honors who have had a lasting impact on the security world as we know it. It is our hope that their insights on leadership and the timeless practice of security and protection will inspire you in your own efforts. With a background in the U.S. Secret Service, most recently as Chief Research Psychologist, Marisa knows the important balance of data and human observation. Today, she provides threat assessment training and consulting for school shootings, targeted violence and protective intelligence investigations. In her conversation with Fred, Marisa shares her career story, lessons learned along the way, and where she sees the physical security industry evolving in the years to come.

In this interview series, we spotlight leaders recognized in the Protective Intelligence Honors who have had a lasting impact on the security world as we know it. It is our hope that their insights on leadership and the timeless practice of security and protection will inspire you in your own efforts. Nabih Numair is a global security professional who has built and led teams covering the entire spectrum of physical security; executive protection, security operations, global security operations centers, event security, travel security, workplace violence, security training programs, and more. In his conversation with Fred, Nabih shares stories of his career and where he sees the security landscape evolving.

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For more information, check out Rich’s company website: www.reputationdefender.comBrought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.

Visit Meredith's profile on the Protective Intelligence Honors site.

Here at the Ontic Center for Protective Intelligence, we’re continually creating and sharing relevant content for the physical security community. Over the course of the past year, our podcast series has highlighted stories of threat actors, unfortunate events, and shifts in industry practice, and we’ve had some fascinating conversations with authors, security experts, and corporate security leaders along the way. There are many influential leaders who have inspired and enabled those in the protection community to successfully shift to a more proactive, always-on approach to physical security. That’s why we launched Protective Intelligence Honors, a program we developed at the Center to celebrate the top leaders in our industry. Each month we will be recognizing new leaders, and we will be spotlighting many of them on the podcast. Check out ProtectiveIntelligenceHonors.com to learn more.

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Check out the book The Lone Star Speaks: Untold Stories About the JFK AssassinationBrought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.

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Mr. Stewart was one of the DSS Special Agents profiled in the book “Relentless Pursuit: The DSS and the Manhunt for the Al-Qaeda Terrorists” by Samuel M Katz.Brought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.

Visit SIGMA Threat Management Associates for more information on workplace threat management training and consulting.Brought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.

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Learn more about Texas Armoring Corporation (TAC), visit their website: https://www.texasarmoring.com/A portion of TAC’s manufacturing operation is in San Pedro Sula, Honduras which has been subject to severe storms and damage. If you would like to read more or kindly donate to the cause, please view Mark’s LinkedIn article. ---------------Brought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.

Learn more about Dr. Meloy, visit his website here: http://drreidmeloy.com/View his book, co-edited book with Drs. Hoffmann and Sheridan, Stalking, Threatening and Attacking Public Figures (Oxford University Press, 2008)View his most recent book (co-edited by Dr. Hoffman) here: International Handbook of Threat Assessment (Oxford University Press, 2014)To learn about WAVR-21, co-founded by Dr. Meloy, here: www.wavr21.com

Have you ever stepped back to think about how you carry yourself as you walk down the street? Everything from your posture, to your line of sight, to what you are fidgeting with (cellphone, anyone?) is what an attacker is observing from afar. A cue as small as turning your head twice within one minute can signal to an observer that you are uncomfortable with your surroundings. Kelly Sayre, Founder and President of the Diamond Arrow Group, educates women about these exact observations and how vital it is to pay attention to your intuition. ---In this episode, Fred and Kelly discuss the “what if” scenarios that often aren’t discussed. While acts of violence that actually happen are always shared, having a dialogue around what didn’t happen is equally important. It’s critical to have a plan in case you find yourself in a situation where you are being followed and need to take action. Even the slightest variance is worth acknowledging to prevent an attacker from accomplishing their goal. Whether carrying mace or a simple flashlight, it’s important for the individual to feel comfortable using it and feel empowered to protect themselves from harm. Kelly is Founder and President of the Diamond Arrow Group, which teaches situational awareness to women so they have the confidence to move forward and live life on their own terms. Teachings are offered through speaking engagements, classes, one-on-one consultations and online training programs.

Learn more about Mike’s recent book The Protected here.

Learn more about The Violence Project and Dr. Peterson’s upcoming book release here.

Purchase Brad’s latest book, Near Dark, here.Brad shares his ‘top gear’ from his 2018 Bestselling Novel, Spymaster here. (The list includes Beirut Rules: The Murder of a CIA Station Chief and Hezbollah's War Against America by Fred Burton, Samuel M. Katz)Check out Brad’s research for his 2012 novel, Blacklist here. (The list includes Ghost: Confessions of a Counterterrorism Agent by Fred Burton )Brought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.

For a complete bio, here is Mars’ website: https://mars-law.com/Read Mars’ recent press in the Wall Street Journal: The Cop, the Lawyer and the Walmart Executive Who Took on College Football---Brought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.

Learn more about Philip Jett and his writing here: www.philipjett.comPre-order Taking Mr. Exxon: The Kidnapping of an Oil Giant’s President on AmazonThe Death of an Heir: Adolph Coors III and the Murder That Rocked an American Brewing Dynasty is also available on Amazon---Brought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.

Learn about the “A Night for Life” virtual event hereLearn about the mission of the Whitney/Strong here: whitneystrong.org.Find out how to donate or get involved here: Whitney Strong Volunteers---Brought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.

Read Ami’s blog ‘Protection Circle’ here: https://protectioncircle.org/Check out Ami’s book Surveillance Zone on Amazon.comLearn more about HighCom Security services and their new e-learning course.For even more reading, check out Fred’s Definitive Protective Intelligence Reading List.---Brought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.

Check out“Rebels at Work: A Handbook for Leading Change from Within” by Lois Kelly & Carmen Medina on Amazon.comAlso "Thinking, Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahneman and "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by Jared Diamond on Amazon.com---Brought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.

Check out “A Dark Night in Aurora: Inside James Holmes and the Colorado Mass Shootings” on Amazon.com---Brought to you by The Ontic Center for Protective IntelligenceProduced by AJ McKeonMusic by Brian Bristow and performed by Smokin’ NovasContact us at [email protected] or visit ontic.ai/center for more information.