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The Lawfare Podcast features discussions with experts, policymakers, and opinion leaders at the nexus of national security, law, and policy. On issues from foreign policy, homeland security, intelligence, and cybersecurity to governance and law, we have doubled down on seriousness at a time when others are running away from it. Visit us at www.lawfareblog.com.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Episode #54: Inside NSA, Part III--Wherein We Talk to Lonny Anderson, Chief of NSA's Technology Directorate
Bobby Chesney and Benjamin Wittes sit down with the head of IT at NSA and talk about how Edward Snowden did it, and what's being done to make sure the next Edward Snowden can't do it again. We talked about why NSA is different from other government agencies in technology development. And we talked about what would have happened had NSA built the health care web site. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
42:2418/12/2013
Episode #53: Inside NSA, Part II--Wherein We Interview the Agency's Chief of Compliance, John DeLong
In the second episode of our series, "Inside NSA: We Brought In a Recording Device So You Don't Have To," Robert Chesney and Benjamin Wittes talk to John DeLong, the agency's chief of compliance. They discuss the history and development of NSA's compliance program and whether the agency's problem is compliance with the rules--or whether it's the rules themselves.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
52:4217/12/2013
Episode #52: Inside NSA, Part I--A Discusison with General Counsel Rajesh De
The first episode in our series, "Inside NSA: We Brought in a Recording Device So You Don't Have To": An interview with NSA General Counsel Rajesh De.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
55:4716/12/2013
Episode #51: Colombia's Minister of National Defense Juan Carlos Pinzon Bueno Speaks at Brookings
After more than four decades of conflict, Colombia has made substantial progress under the Uribe and Santos administrations in combating drug trafficking and insurgents and demobilizing paramilitary groups. In recent years, Colombians have seen prosperity increase and reductions in violence in many parts of their county. Today, the Santos administration is engaged in a peace process with the FARC insurgency that has recently shown promise, but now the administration faces the challenge of managing peace talks and an election at the same time. What lessons can Colombia offer for improving security and economic development within a democratic context, and for sharing the lessons it has learned with other states of the region?On December 2, the Latin America Initiative (LAI) and the Center for 21st Century Security and Intelligence (21CSI) at Brookings hosted Colombian Minister of National Defense Juan Carlos Pinzón Bueno for a discussion of Colombia’s security accomplishments, current challenges, and future needs at this crucial juncture in the nation’s history. LAI Director and Senior Fellow Harold Trinkunas provided introductory remarks. Senior Fellow Michael O’Hanlon of 21CSI then interviewed Minister Pinzón.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:01:3506/12/2013
Episode #50: DIA Chief Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn Speaks at Brookings
The exponential rate of change in the present global environment makes today’s security landscape particularly challenging, and projections promise that the challenges will only increase. In this complex and uncertain future, intelligence, cyber, Special Operations Forces and international partnerships will take on more prominent and critical roles in the nation’s defense and warfare for decades to come.On November 20, the Intelligence Project at Brookings and the National Intelligence University co-hosted a discussion with Lieutenant General Michael T. Flynn, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), to examine this uncertain future, DIA’s role in this complex security environment and a new model for defense intelligence that ensures preparedness to address these challenges and the crises of tomorrow. Flynn has also served as the director of intelligence at the U.S. Central Command, director of intelligence for the Joint Staff and director of intelligence for International Security Assistance Force-Afghanistan and U.S. Forces-Afghanistan.Brookings Senior Fellow Bruce Riedel, director of the Intelligence Project, and President of the National Intelligence University, David Ellison, provided introductory remarks, and Riedel moderated the discussion.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
59:2830/11/2013
Episode #49: A Panel at NYU on "Law and Strategy in the Executive Branch"
In an panel discussion at NYU, a former White House Counsel, a former chief of staff to the CIA director and Secretary of Defense, a former FBI general counsel, and a former head of NCTC discuss law and lawyering and national security strategy.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:10:0422/11/2013
Episode #48: Jack Goldsmith Speaks at Hoover to and on the National Security Press
In the third and final installment of our series of sessions from the October 25 Hoover Media Colloquium, Jack goes mano a mano with the press corps on national security leaks and journalism. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
58:5908/11/2013
Episode #47: Matthew Waxman and Kenneth Anderson Speak on Autonomous Weapons at Hoover
Matthew Waxman and Kenneth Anderson speak at the Hoover Institution on autonomous weapons before a group of journalists.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:00:4606/11/2013
Episode #46: Benjamin Wittes Speaks at Hoover on "Speaking the Law"
Benjamin Wittes speaks on his and Kenneth Anderson's book, Speaking the Law, at an October 25 media colloquium at the Hoover Institution. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:03:4601/11/2013
Episode #45: Tom Mann and Norm Ornstein on Political Dysfunction
Congressional scholars Tom Mann of the Brookings Institution and Norm Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute discuss the arguments in their book It's Even Worse Than It Looks, the government shutdown and the effects of political dysfunction on national security.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
30:3017/10/2013
Episode #44: Matt Apuzzo on Najibullah Zazi and NSA Surveillance Programs
Bruce Riedel, Director of the Intelligence Project at Brookings, hosted Matt Apuzzo of the AP for a discussion of his new book with Adam Goldman, entitled “Enemies Within: Inside the NYPD’s Secret Spying Unit and bin Laden’s Final Plot Against America.” The book is about the 2009 plot to attack the New York City subway system, led by Afghan-American Najibullah Zazi. During this conversation, Bruce and Matt discussed the plot, the current state of Al Qaeda, and whether the NSA’s surveillance programs directly led to thwarting this terrorist attack.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:25:4711/10/2013
Episode #43: A Debate on NSA Surveillance
Benjamin Wittes, Steven Vladeck, and Orin Kerr debate NSA surveillance and the Snowden leaks at an event hosted by the George Washington University chapter of the Federalist Society.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:18:3302/10/2013
Episode #42: Steve Vladeck and Ryan Goodman on "Just Security"
Lawfare veteran Steve Vladeck and NYU law professor Ryan Goodman discuss their new national security blog, Just Security--which launches today.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
26:3619/09/2013
Episode #41: Nathan Myhrvold on Strategic Terrorism
Polymathic technology businessman Nathan Myhrvold discusses his paper, "Strategic Terrorism: A Call to Action."Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
34:1211/09/2013
Episode #40: Brookings Event, "Striking Syria? Obama, Congress and Military Action"
On Thursday, Brookings hosted an event on possible U.S. military intervention in Syria. Brookings Senior Fellow Michael O'Hanlon lead the discussion, in which Brookings scholars debated the strategic, legal and moral wisdom behind a strike against the Assad regime. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:29:1006/09/2013
Episode #39: Laura Dean on the Bloodbath in Egypt
Ben interviews Laura Dean, Lawfare's Cairo Diarist, about the coup in Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood, and freelancing the revolution.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
29:2728/08/2013
Episode #37--Tools and Tradeoffs: Confronting U.S. Citizen Terrorist Suspects Abroad
Daniel Byman of the Saban Center for Middle East Policy and Ben Wittes of the Governance Studies program at Brookings launched their report entitled “Tools and Tradeoffs: Confronting U.S. Citizen Terrorist Suspects Abroad.” The paper describes the wide range of tools the United States has employed in dealing with citizens suspected of engaging in terrorist activities abroad, and examines the costs and benefits of these various options for policymakers. The event was moderated by Bruce Riedel, director of the Intelligence Project at Brookings, and was followed by an audience discussion.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:29:1126/07/2013
Episode #36--Robert Litt on Privacy and Intelligence Collection
Robert LItt, general counsel of the ODNI, speaks at the Brookings Institution on Privacy and Intelligence Collection.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:07:2419/07/2013
Episode #35: Mark Plotkin on Private Sector National Security Law
Raffaela Wakeman interviews Covington & Burling partner Mark Plotkin on private sector national security law.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
30:2506/07/2013
Episode #34: Alan Liotta Speaks at MILOPS
For a week last June, Ben was hanging out in Bangkok, at the International Military Law and Operations (MILOPS) Conference. While there, he took in an interesting and important address by Alan Liotta, a senior Defense Department official with responsibilities for worldwide detention policy. Liotta's remarks constitute the thirty-fourth episode in our Lawfare Podcast series.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
50:2428/06/2013
Episode #33--An Address by Rached Ghannouchi
The Brookings Institution hosted Rached Ghannouchi, co-founder and president of Tunisia's Nahda Party, for an address on the future of Tunisian democracy. His remarks centered around the progress the country has made since the Arab awakening began, and the discussion that followed covered the different Islamist movements in the region, as well as the lessons Tunisia’s revolution can teach us about prospects for successful democratic transitions elsewhere in the Arab world.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:27:0105/06/2013
Episode #32: A Discussion with 9-11 Case Defense Lawyer CDR Walter Ruiz
This week, Lawfare sat down with CDR Walter Ruiz, a lawyer for accused 9-11 co-conspirator Mustafa al-Hawsawi. Our discussion touched on, among other things: the fairness of military commission rules; Ruiz's contention that those rules allow evidence derived from torture; Ruiz's own background; his experience as capital defense counsel in history's most closely-watched terrorism case; and the burdens on commission defense lawyers. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
47:1328/05/2013
Episode #31: Special Edition: UN Special Rapporteur Ben Emmerson Discusses His Investigation of Drone Strikes
Benjamin Wittes and Ritika Singh interview Ben Emmerson about his investigation.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
41:1714/05/2013
Episode #30: Benjamin Wittes Gives a Talk at Parliament on Whether Drones are the New Guantanamo
Lawfare's editor in chief, Benjamin Wittes, gives a talk at the Palace of Westminster--sponsored by the Henry Jackson Society--on whether drones are becoming the new Guantanamo.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:00:0510/05/2013
Episode #29: Former CIA and FBI Counterterrorism Official Philip Mudd Interviewed at Brookings by Bruce Riedel
Brookings Senior Fellow Bruce Riedel interviews before an audience Philip Mudd, former CIA and FBI counterterrorism official and author of a new book on the the hunt for Al Qaeda.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:26:2423/04/2013
Episode #28: A Panel Discussion of Autonomous Weapons
On April 4, the National Security Law Society at Georgetown Law Center held a panel discussion on the “Legal and Ethical Implications of Autonomous Weapons.” It featured Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch, Missy Cummings, Professor of Aeronautics and Astronautics at MIT, and Benjamin Wittes of the Brookings Institution. The panel was moderated by Shane Harris of Washington magazine. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:27:3410/04/2013
Episode #27: Afghan Presidential Candidate Fawzia Koofi Speaks on the Taliban and Women in Afghanistan
Lawfare's Alan Rozenshtein interviews Afghan Presidential Candidate Fawzia Koofi on the Taliban and Women in AfghanistanSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
23:1016/02/2013
Episode #26: Gen. Stanley McChrystal Speaks at the Brookings Institution on the Evolution of JSOC
Osama bin Laden may have been the most notorious face of al-Qaeda before his death, but a terrorist by the name of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi arguably had far more blood on his hands—and for years was enemy number one for the United States government. Running the al-Qaeda franchise in Iraq, Zarqawi and his followers usurped the Sunni insurgency and through vicious attacks on Iraqi civilians stoked a civil war pitting Sunnis and Shiites against each other. His damage was so great that even after American special operators, intelligence experts and Air Force pilots successfully tracked down and killed Zarqawi in June 2006, General Stanley McChrystal wrote in his newly published memoir My Share of the Task (Penguin Group USA, 2013) that it was “too late. He bequeathed Iraq a sectarian paranoia and an incipient civil war.” Nevertheless, the special operations machine built to defeat Zarqawi’s network continued to run full tilt, eventually having a strategic impact when married to the full-spectrum counterinsurgency and diplomatic pressures of "the surge." On January 28, the 21st Century Defense Initiative at Brookings hosted a discussion featuring a keynote address by General Stanley A. McChrystal (ret.) that will, for the first time, focus on this crucial part of his career and the careers of so many who worked with him. The story of how Joint Special Operations Command, working with many other agencies and nations, built itself into a powerful network capable of studying, tracking, hunting, and finally killing Zarqawi is at the heart General Stanley McChrystal’s memoir. Brookings Senior Fellow Michael O’Hanlon, director of research for Foreign Policy at Brookings, provided introductory remarks. Brookings Senior Fellow Bruce Riedel, a 30-year veteran of the CIA, interviewed General McChrystal, before moderating a discussion with the audience.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
01:28:4128/01/2013
Episode #25: Stephen Krasner Discusses Externally Imposed and Encouraged Democratic Development
Stanford Polical Scientist Stephen Krasner discusses his current book project--a study of the circumstances in which states can and cannot encourage the democratic development of other states.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
26:2921/01/2013
Episode #24: Federal Public Defender Miriam Conrad on the Rezwan Ferdaus Case and FBI Counterterrorism Sting Operations
Federal Public Defender Miriam Conrad talks with Lawfare's Alan Rozenshtein about the case of Rezwan Ferdaus, a 26-year old U.S.-born citizen of Bangladeshi origin who recently pled guilty to terrorism charges arising out of an FBI sting operation.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
21:2416/01/2013
Episode #23: Brig. Gen. Mark Martins Discusses the Decision to Withdraw Conspiracy Charges in the 9/11 Case
Military Commission Chief Prosecutor Mark Martins discusses his decision not to pursue standalone conspiracy charges against KSM and the other 9/11 defendants in the wake of Hamdan II.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
40:3010/01/2013
Episode #22: Stephen Tankel on Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Lashkar-e-Taiba
Ritika Singh interviews American University scholar Stephen Tankel on Pakistani counterterrorism cooperation, the endgame in Afghanistan, and Lashkar-e-Taiba.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
32:2414/11/2012
Episode #21: A Debate over Clapper Between Jameel Jaffer and Benjamin Powell
Lawfare's Alan Rozenshtein hosts a debate over Clapper v. Amnesty International between ACLU attorney Jameel Jaffer and Benjamin Powell, one of the godfathers of the FISA Amendments Act.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
56:1212/11/2012
Episode #20--Daniel Markey on U.S.-Pakistan Relations and the Haqqani Network
Ritika Singh interviews Council on Foreign Relations Senior Fellow Daniel Markey on U.S.-Pakistan Relations, tensions over drone strikes, and the rise of the Haqqani Network.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
47:1727/09/2012
Episode #19--A Drunken Predator Drone Visits the Brookings Institution
An interview with @drunkenpredator.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
25:2227/08/2012
Episode #18: Dan Byman on Al Qaeda and Its Affiliates
Brookings and Georgetown scholar Daniel Byman talks about his new paper, "Breaking the Bonds Between Al-Qa'ida and Its Afiliate Organizations."Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
19:5121/08/2012
Episode #17: Bruce Riedel on Al Qaeda and Its Affiliates
Brookings Senior Fellow Bruce Riedel talks with Lawfare's Ritika Singh about the state of Al Qaeda and its allies.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
43:2303/08/2012
Episode #16: Kent Roach on the 9/11 Effect
Lawfare's Alan Rozenshtein interviews University of Toronto Professor Kent Roach about his new book, The 9/11 Effect: Comparative Counter-Terrorism.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
52:2922/07/2012
Episode #15: Ashley Deeks on the Unwilling or Unable Test
Ashley Deeks speaks at MILOPS on the Unwilling or Unable test.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
30:1815/06/2012
Episode #14: Benjamin Wittes on Legislating for the Wars We Fight
Benjamin Wittes addresses the PACOM MILOPS conference in a speech entitled "Legislating for the Wars We Fight."Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
34:2015/06/2012
Episode #13: Charles Blanchard Speaks at MILOPS
Air Force General Counsel Charles Blanchard speaks to the PACOM Military Operations and Law Conference in Singapore.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
31:4315/06/2012
Episode #12: Kenneth Anderson on Living with the United Nations
Lawfare's book review editor, Kenneth Anderson, discusses his new book, Living with the UN: American Responsibilities and International Order.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
31:1107/06/2012
Episode #11: Jennifer Daskal on the Geography of the Battlefield
Georgetown Law fellow Jennifer Dasksal discusses her new article, "The Geography of the Battlefield: A Framework for Detention and Targeting Outside the 'Hot' Conflict Zone."Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
34:1415/05/2012
Episode #10: Peter Berkowitz on Israel and the International Laws of War
Hoover Institution scholar Peter Berkowitz talks about his new book, Israel and the Struggle Over the International Laws of War.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
36:2208/05/2012
Episode #9: The President of Estonia Speaks on Cybersecurity
Estonian President Toomas Hendrik Ilves talks to Jack about cybersecurity and the 2007 attacks on his country's computer networks.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
17:0919/04/2012
Episode #8: Richard Gross on the Role of the Legal Advisor to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Robert Chesney and William Banks of Syracuse University College of Law interview Brig. General Richard Gross, legal adviser to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on the role of his little-known office.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
37:3509/04/2012
Episode #7: Paul Rosensweig and Allan Friedman on Cybersecurity Legislation
Former DHS policy official Paul Rosenzweig and Brookings scholar Allan Friedman discuss current legislative machinations over cybersecurity.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
42:2319/03/2012
Episode #6: Jack Goldsmith on Power and Constraint
Jack Goldsmith discusses his new book, Power and Constraint: The Accountable Presidency after 9/11.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
33:0012/03/2012
Episode #5: Missy Cummings on Drones, Drones, and More Drones
MIT robotics professor Missy Cummings discusses drones with Ritika Singh.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
31:1503/03/2012
Episode #4: Robert Chesney on the Title 10/Title 50 Debate
Bobby discusses his new article, Military-Intelligence Convergence and the Law of the Title 10/Title 50 Debates, 5 J. Nat'l Sec. L. & Pol'y 539 (2012).Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
25:0124/02/2012