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The ITPro Podcast is a weekly show for technology professionals and business leaders. Each week hosts Rory Bathgate (@rorybathgate) and Jane McCallion (@JaneMcCallion) are joined by an expert guest to take a deep dive into the most important issues for the IT community. New episodes premiere every Friday. Visit itpro.com/uk/the-it-pro-podcast for more information, or follow ITPro on LinkedIn for regular updates.
What DORA means for business
What does it mean to be secure in your sector? While every organization has its own cyber security policies, numerous pieces of legislation also set out minimum requirements for security that firms must reach or else be held accountable through fines.The EU’s Digital Operational Resilience Act – which came into force in 2023 and applies from 17 January 2025 – aims to do just this for financial entities within the region. But what does being DORA-ready mean in practice? And how will the legislation add to the responsibilities of IT professionals?In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to John Stevenson, Technical Director at Skybox, to better understand the EU’s Digital Operational Resilience Act and what it means for businesses.Read more:What is the EU’s Digital Operational Resilience Act (DORA)?DORA and why resilience (once again) matters to the board‘Borderline irresponsible’ attitude to third party risks must change, says expertSupply chain attacks are still plaguing enterprises – here's why
29:1015/11/2024
October Rundown: Is the four-day week generally achievable?
It's that time of year when the clocks change and the nights draw in, the familiar starts to take on a new aspect as the shadows lengthen, and in the world of IT, trends that have been taken for granted are also starting to take on a new shape. As countries battle productivity problems, can they replicate the success of Iceland's four-day working week? Elsewhere, developers have started to question just how useful AI coding tools really are, and OpenAI has had another successful funding round – but is interest in the company starting to wain?In this episode, Jane is once again joined by Ross Kelly, ITPro’s news and analysis editor, to unpack the most interesting news that October brought.Read more:New four-day week trial kicks off for workers across UKIceland’s four-day working week trials have been a roaring success – economic growth spiked, workers were happier, and burnout plummetedThe benefits of a four-day week in techUK's four-day week trial ends, leads to reduced burnout and sick daysOpenAI just raised $6.6bn in funding, but it drove a hard bargain – investors will be stopped from funding rivalsOpenAI could go bankrupt in 12 months if it doesn’t raise some serious cash – but is the Microsoft-backed AI giant too big to fail?
27:3208/11/2024
Halloween special: Cybersecurity horror stories
It’s All Hallows’ Day, and we’ve still got Halloween on the brain. It’s that time of year when we tell the scariest stories we can – and for those in tech, there are none scarier than that of major cybersecurity incidents.In this episode, Rory and Jane talk to Solomon Klappholz, ITPro’s cybersecurity reporter, about some of the spookiest cyber incidents of 2024 and what businesses can learn from these ghoulish tales.FootnotesCrowdStrike CEO confirms update "defect" as the source of mass disruptionMillions of devices bricked and $5.4 billion in losses: The cost of the CrowdStrike outage continues to mountThe National Public Data breach exposed nearly three billion users – now the company has filed for bankruptcyNational Public Data breach: Lawsuit claims failed to protect billions of personal records23andMe's disastrous data breach just landed it a regulatory probe23andMe data breach response has been a public relations disaster as it blames customers for data breachThe 23andMe data breach is getting messier by the dayWorld Economic Forum warns of growing ‘cyber insecurity’ amid heightened threat landscapeSubscribeSubscribe to The IT Pro Podcast on Apple PodcastsSubscribe to The IT Pro Podcast on SpotifySubscribe to the IT Pro newsletterJoin us on LinkedInFollow us on YouTube
25:5401/11/2024
SPECIAL EDITION: A pragmatist’s guide to AI
Every organization has to prepare for the future to the best extent possible, whether that means modernizing one’s infrastructure or adopting cutting-edge technologies like AI.In every sector, leaders are faced with the task of keeping their business up-to-date and competitive by integrating AI workloads within their environment. But getting a project underway and ensuring it delivers sufficient ROI can be a challenge. In this special edition of the ITPro Podcast, in association with Dell Technologies, Jane speaks with Steve Young, SVP and MD for Dell Technologies in the UK, to explain how businesses can adopt AI smoothly and ensure their route to integration works in their own best interests.Read more:Find out more about Dell Technologies Forum Live and registerWhat is hybrid cloud?What is multi-cloud?Dell doubles down on Nvidia partnership with ‘AI factories’ and models at the edge
40:1630/10/2024
Classic episode: Putting privacy-enhancing technologies to use
This episode was first broadcast 4 August 2023.As the economy has become increasingly dependent on data, companies have sought to make more profit from mining user actions such as through loyalty schemes or social media interactions.But individual rights also have to be respected, and businesses have to follow strict data protection procedures.Privacy-enhancing technologies (PETs) are one method for companies to securely search through data to derive value – for example, a bank could search through customer data to expose fraudulent activity without putting the personal information of all the customers involved at risk.This episode, Rory and Jane are joined by Ellison Anne Williams, CEO and founder of privacy-enhancing technology company Enveil, to discuss the dos and don’ts of data use, and how organizations can make use of PETs for enhanced data mining.For more information, read the show notes here.
28:5625/10/2024
How to sell cybersecurity without the FUD, ft. Breaking Through in Cybersecurity Marketing
It’s not every day that cybersecurity marketing professionals get to speak to one another, compare notes, and come up with innovative solutions for getting their voices heard.Despite being a cornerstone of the tech industry, cybersecurity is in need of constant marketing on its behalf. Developers need individuals willing to enter the boardroom to advocate for their product and cybersecurity marketers have to arm themselves with the right storytelling skills to get their message across.The Cybersecurity Marketing Society describes itself as a community for cybersecurity marketers to network, share skills, and learn from one another – but what does this mean in practical terms?In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Gianna Whitver, co-founder & CEO at the Cybersecurity Marketing Society, and Maria Velasquez, co-founder & chief growth officer at the Cybersecurity Marketing Society, to discuss their work in the sector and the realities of running a podcast all about cybersecurity marketing.Read more:https://cybersecuritymarketingsociety.com/https://cybersecuritymarketingsociety.com/podcast/How AI is transforming businesses in the tech channelMandiant exec thinks AI could boost diversity in cybersecuritySecurity and marketing are the top software spending priorities for 2023
26:3618/10/2024
Enabling cloud migration at scale
To fully embrace the benefits of the cloud, businesses have to distribute existing workloads across hybrid and/or multi-cloud environments. While the benefits of this digital transformation are undeniable, it’s not a process without its challenges.This can be particularly true for firms with sprawling environments, perhaps as the result of mergers and acquisitions over the years, or those looking to get data in the right shape to be used for machine learning or AI.How can businesses reconcile these problems at scale? And what are the specific steps to success when it comes to cloud consolidation?In this episode, Rory speaks to Rajesh Naidu, SVP, chief architect, and head of data platform & data management at Expedia, to discuss the challenges of cloud migration and how converging workloads can help with AI adoption.Read more:How Expedia Group used platform convergence to harness the efficiency of generative AIHow to prepare and prioritize workloads for cloud migration“The tech guys want to move to the cloud, the finance people want the savings”: IT leaders feel ‘rushed’ to the cloud – here’s why slow and steady wins the raceConsolidate to simplify application security: Why this is a business imperativeWhy 'shadow SaaS' is becoming a major blind spot for enterprise security teamsStructured vs unstructured data managementWhat is machine learning and why is it important?What is generative AI?
34:5111/10/2024
Salesforce Dreamforce 2024: Delivering on AI hype
When it comes to the companies leading the way in AI development, Salesforce might not be the first name that springs to mind. The veteran CRM provider launched its flagship ‘Einstein’ AI in 2016, which relied on traditional machine learning methods to improve customer experience, but hasn’t sought to go head-to-head with major AI developers.With several years of generative AI hype at its back, the company is trying to carve a out a place for itself as the purveyor of trusted AI tools that live up to the hype – put simply, automated software that helps us work less, and reap more rewards.How has the company sold this vision so far at its annual conference, Dreamforce 2024? And is it likely to succeed given the vicious competition in the space?In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Ross Kelly, ITPro’s news and analysis editor, live from Dreamforce in San Francisco.Read more:Salesforce wants to show what “AI was always meant to be” – Dreamforce 2024 is its chance to do itSalesforce CEO wants to “break the hypnosis" coming from major AI vendors in scathing critique of Microsoft Copilot“Values drive value” for Salesforce Ventures as AI investment ramps upSalesforce may have had its ‘ChatGPT moment’ with AI agents – and it will take a lot to knock the company off its perchHigh wire acts, Microsoft Clippy, and DIY AI at Dreamforce 2024Dreamforce 2024: All the news and announcements as they happened
19:3904/10/2024
SPECIAL EDITION: Why Open Banking from a bank?
How much do you know about open banking? The practice allows companies to share choice information with third parties for the benefit of businesses, but it has yet to be taken up by every bank on the market.NatWest is a frontrunner in this regard. Its Payit service allows businesses to process customer payments quickly and easily, all alongside the ability to securely share customer data with added data insightsBut how does Payit work? And what are its standout benefits?In this special edition of the ITPro Podcast, in association with NatWest, Jane and Rory are joined by Mark Brant, chief payments officer at NatWest Group, to explore the upsides and inner workings of NatWest Payit.https://www.payitbynatwest.com/itproPayit terms and conditions apply. Visit https://www.payitbynatwest.com/legal-hub. Your business must be based and trading in the UK with a turnover above £2M. You must be 18 years or older. Fees apply.
20:4902/10/2024
September rundown: Hyperscalers go nuclear
Energy usage in data centers is an increasingly Hot Topic, particularly with AI applications becoming more popular and widely used.While some organizations have talked up their commitment to renewables, such as solar or hydro, others have this month started to discuss a different, perhaps more controversial low carbon path.Elsewhere, a new rebellion against home working is beginning – and this time it's not CEOs or ministers leading the charge.In this episode, Jane is once again joined by Ross Kelly, ITPro’s news and analysis editor, to discuss the biggest stories of the past month.
20:1027/09/2024
AI’s thirsty secret
When people talk about the environmental impacts of data centers, normally the discussion focuses on energy usage. It’s something we’ve talked about at several points this year already, with reference to growing efforts to house AI workloads in green data centers that run on renewable energy to reduce their carbon impact.But while we can generate nearly limitless amounts of green energy, there is a decidedly finite amount of water in the world – and unfortunately, most data centers need vast amounts of fresh water to cool hardware. Without care, big tech could push already drought-stricken communities to breaking point.In this episode, Jane and Rory unpack the growing problem of data center water use, how operators can tackle this, and how it will exacerbate environmental tensions in the near future.Read more:Data center water consumption is spiraling out of controlGoogle data centre soaks up a third of Oregon city's water supplyWhat is a green data center and why are they attracting big investment?Data center waste energy to heat homes in 'UK-first' schemeOVHcloud just open sourced its data center liquid cooling system — here’s whyAWS plans to be 'water positive' by 2030Microsoft lays out water-positive plans for next decade
24:4720/09/2024
SPECIAL EDITION: Securing your business with education and training
What’s the biggest cybersecurity threat your business faces right now? Hopefully, an answer springs to mind, along with a list of the solutions you have in place to keep attackers at bay. But ask yourself this: do your employees know? And if the worst did happen, how confident are you that your workforce would know exactly how to respond?Cybersecurity education and training is one of the cornerstones of any enterprise security strategy, keeping companies looped in on the latest attack methods and helping employees foster a security-first mindset.But how receptive are employees to the various training methods, how can training keep up with new advancements such as AI, and where do vendors such as your managed security service provider fit into the mix?In this special edition of the ITPro Podcast, in association with Proofpoint, Jane and Rory are joined by Kevin Leusing, EMEA chief technologist at Proofpoint. Together, they discuss how firms can best use cybersecurity education and training to protect their workforce against the latest threats.Read more:https://bit.ly/proofpoint-cyber-awareness-kit2024 State of the Phish2024 Voice of the CISOWhy social engineering is such a problem and how your business can protect itselfOrganisations could soon be using generative AI to prevent phishing attacksNearly half of EMEA data breaches were due to internal blunders in 2023
20:5617/09/2024
Cracking open insider threats
Cybersecurity teams face a constant battle of ensuring their company is shored up in the right places. Facing down increasingly sophisticated and persistent threat actors, there’s every reason to focus on one’s perimeter to shield oneself against external threats.But insider threats – attacks carried out from within an organization’s environment – must also be part of any business’s security strategy. When the call is coming from inside the house, either via a hacker who’s secretly gained access or in the form of a disgruntled employee, security teams need to be ready to clamp down hard.In this episode, Jane and Rory welcome back Ross Kelly, ITPro’s news and analysis editor, to discuss the scale of these insider threats.Read more:Why you should always be wary of insider threatsNorth Korean insider attacks are skyrocketing – dozens of US firms didn't spot the hacker in their midstCyber firm KnowBe4 unknowingly hired a North Korean hacker – and it went exactly as you might thinkShould your business worry about North Korean cyber attacks?State-sponsored cyber attacks: The new frontierThe Verizon data breach that exposed 63,000 employees is a reminder of how a simple mistake can have costly implicationsPreventing deepfake attacks: How businesses can stay protectedHow Intel's FakeCatcher hopes to eradicate real-time deepfakesAI threats: The importance of a concrete strategy in fighting novel attacksWhy I think the Scarlett Johansson OpenAI scandal shows the danger of AI-generated voice content
23:5313/09/2024
Preparing for the quantum revolution
Quantum computing is an exciting field of research that promises to revolutionize computing as we know it. Relying on quantum mechanics to process calculations much faster than conventional physics would allow a normal computer to, quantum computers could drive rapid breakthroughs in fields such as medicine or machine learning.But what are the specific ways in which quantum computing can help businesses and the world? And how long will it take for quantum computers to become widely used?In this episode, Rory speaks to Graeme Malcolm, CEO at M Squared Lasers and co-chair of the UK Quantum Technology Leadership Group, to unpack some of the immense potential of quantum computing including in the fight against climate change.Read more:What is quantum computing?The quantum computing sector needs to cut the hype and focus on responsible developmentUK government quantum investment welcomed by industryWhy quantum computing might be much closer to becoming a reality than we thinkWhat is the ‘steal now, crack later’ quantum computing threat?How quantum computing can fight climate changeUK government ramps up quantum funding in bid to drive commercial viabilityGoogle's greenhouse gas emissions have skyrocketed in the last five years – and soaring AI energy demand is the main culpritMicrosoft's AI-fueled data center rush caused carbon emissions to surge by 29% in 2023 — and now the tech giant could miss critical sustainability targets
30:3406/09/2024
August rundown: Who's afraid of remote work?
For many, August has been all about getting away on holiday – stepping back from your desk, and putting on your email out of office. But others have spent the past month focused on how to ensure workers work longer hours and physically turn up to do their 9-5 on company soil.Eric Schmidt, former CEO at Google, has got into hot water over his claims that companies should ditch remote work schedules if they want to succeed. Schmidt even suggested that his former company was lagging in the generative AI race as a result of its focus on work-life balance.Also this month, companies competing in that very race have been closely watching the brewing California AI Bill, which seeks to improve the safety of publicly available AI models. How might these companies fare in the wake of the new laws?In this episode, Jane and Rory welcome back Ross Kelly, ITPro’s news and analysis editor, to explore the past month’s developments.
26:5230/08/2024
A quick update
We're on summer break for the next two weeks, but we'll be back at the end of the month for the rundown and back at full speed throughout September and beyond.Thanks for listening!
00:1216/08/2024
The state of enterprise connectivity
Almost any business these days needs its own network to function – whether it’s for internal comms, interaction with the internet, or for controlling complex environments such as smart factory floors, business networks keep the wheels spinning at an enterprise level.But promises and delivery haven’t always lined up in the networking space, with the likes of 5G and gigabit broadband coming in later than planned and developments such as widespread, real-time edge computing emerging as more important than they might have been expected to be.In what directions are business networks headed, and which growing trends should we expect to define enterprise connectivity in the coming years?In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Kerry Baker, lead industry analyst North America at Ookla, to explore the current network picture for enterprises.Read more:What are private 5G networks and can they transform the workplace?Why businesses are turning to private 5GOfcom approves 5G mmWave, but what are its benefits?What is 6G and how far are we from rollout?UK government to run Starlink trials in Snowdonia, Lake DistrictSpaceX given FCC nod to provide Starlink Wi-Fi to moving vehiclesNokia and Google score breakthrough in Android 13 network slicing
26:4309/08/2024
July rundown: Not just the IT blackout
The IT outage that left passengers stranded, self checkouts non-functional, and IT professionals worldwide with an enormous headache dominated the news in July. The cost for those affected and the companies involved – CrowdStrike and Microsoft – is still being counted.In this episode of the ITPro Podcast, Jane is joined by ITPro’s news editor Ross Kelly to discuss what happened on 19 July, as well as news of Google’s attempt to buy cloud security outfit Wiz falling through and Japan finally winning its war against floppy disks.FootnotesGlobal IT outage caused by faulty CrowdStrike update could take ‘days and weeks’ to resolve, experts warnGlobal IT outage: CrowdStrike CEO confirms update "defect" as the source of mass disruptionMillions of devices bricked and $5.4 billion in losses: The cost of the CrowdStrike outage continues to mountIt's been two weeks since CrowdStrike caused a global IT outage – what lessons should we learn?Why the Wiz acquisition makes perfect sense for GoogleGoogle will need to find a new cloud security champion as Wiz backs out of $23 billion acquisitionHow cyber attacks damage mental healthCrowdStrike’s Falcon Sensor linked to Linux crashes, too • The Register
23:0002/08/2024
Protecting the public sector from hackers
While the private sector makes a lucrative target for threat actors, the public sector is also under constant threat of cyber attacks.In October 2023, the British Library was hit by a major ransomware attack and the founder and CEO of the National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC) Ciaran Martin told the BBC that recent attacks on the UK’s National Health Service were not surprising given its outdated systems and cyber policies.But what might these updates look like? And on a national level, what can be done to protect the public sector from further attacks?In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Jonathan Lee, public sector lead at Trend Micro, to discuss the attacks targeting the public sector and what can be done to stop them.
29:2926/07/2024
What is HPC really for?
When it comes to some of the tech world’s most impressive offerings, high performance computing, also known as supercomputing, often rises to the top of the list. Referring to powerful systems used to crunch the most complex calculations or run incredibly demanding workloads, it’s a rapidly expanding field backed by significant investment.But what is high-performance computing really for? Where does exascale computing fit into the mix? And where might it be headed?
28:3519/07/2024
How cyber attacks damage mental health
Every business will, at some point, be impacted by cyber attacks. Companies task security teams to prepare the first line of defense against cyber attacks, and most have plans in place for the damage they leave behind – be it data loss, encryption by ransomware operators, or large-scale service disruptions.But something that often goes unremarked upon in the wake of cyber attacks is the psychological, human effects of cyber attacks. When the dust settles, staff can be left with feelings of fear or shame, particularly those directly related to IT security.Who’s at risk of this harm? And what can leaders do to minimize the impact?In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Parisa Bazl, head of user experience at data protection firm Commvault, to discuss the psychological harms that come with cyber attacks and what organizations can do to better support frontline IT staff.Read more:Why 'psychological safety' is so important for building a robust security cultureBuilding an incident response strategy in 2024The hidden cost of ransomware is more painful than many realizeWhy ransomware attacks happen to small businesses – and how to stop themThe end of ransomware payments: How businesses fit into the fightUK firms are failing miserably at data breach responsesData breach response: How to react when your business gets hitDell hacker claims they had access to systems for nearly three weeks
28:1612/07/2024
Classic episode: How can CIOs adapt to change?
This classic episode of the ITPro Podcast was first published on 14 July 2023.When you consider the roles that hold influence over business decisions and operations, which come to mind? Doubtless, the CEO and CFO, as well as the COO if you have one. The CMO may also be there – but what about the CIO or CTO?The advent of cloud computing, bring your own device (BYOD), and increasing cyber security threats were all supposed to coincide with CIOs finally having their seat at the table. ITPro has published articles on exactly this trend.But it seems that in some areas, this shift is stalling or even reversing. In this episode, Jane and Rory are joined by Anthony Byrne, EY partner leading technology practice for the UK and Ireland to discuss what’s behind this regression and the changing role that CIOs must play.Read more:What is BYOD?Majority of CIOs plan to expand their IT teams despite shrinking budgetsWhy people management skills are key to being a CIOHow CIOs and CTOs can collaborate more effectivelyIT Pro Podcast: Are chief metaverse officers here to stay?Protecting CIOs' IT budgets is "paramount" in maintaining business growthWhy business leaders – not technologists – make the best CIOs
27:4305/07/2024
June rundown: AI and sustainability take center stage
June has been a month filled with tech conferences. ITPro has covered events including HPE Discover, Splunk .conf24, Snowflake Data Summit, Cisco Live, Pegasystems Inspire, and Pure Accelerate, all held in Las Vegas, amid a busy season for the industry.But throughout the many hours of these events, with tens of thousands of attendees and swathes of product announcements, what have been some of the standout moments and recurring themes?In this episode, Jane and Rory welcome back Ross Kelly, ITPro’s news and analysis editor, to explore the past month’s many events.Read more:Generative AI is the name of the game again at HPE Discover, but don’t mistake it for a repeat of 2023Finally, an HPE AI solution that offers something for the channelSplunk expands its AI Assistant in observability, security pushExclusive: Splunk will play a key role in Cisco's AI plans, claims former CEO"Our job is not to screw up”: Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins vows to make Splunk ‘better’ following acquisitionDell doubles down on Nvidia partnership with ‘AI factories’ and models at the edgeDell Technologies doesn’t know where AI is headed – but it might be the honesty its partners needSustainable AI is key to Pure Storage — and Pure Accelerate 2024 will make that mission clearHow HPE plans to combat generative AI’s 'dirty secret'How Nvidia took the world by storm
38:3428/06/2024
HPE Discover 2024: Can businesses turn AI hype into results?
With the generative AI gold rush continuing at speed in enterprise IT. Ranging from chatbots to AI training services, every provider is looking for that killer use case that makes it indispensable for AI.At HPE Discover 2024, the story has been no different. In collaboration with Nvidia, the company believes it has something unique to offer its enterprise customers.In this episode, recorded live at HPE Discover 2024 in Las Vegas, Jane speaks to Mohan Rajagopalan, general manager for Ezmeral Software at HPE, to explore the benefits of enterprise AI and the specific routes he sees for beneficial AI adoption.Read more:Exclusive: HPE CEO Antonio Neri says "simplicity of experience" key to AI innovationFinally, an HPE AI solution that offers something for the channelHPE’s drive for enterprise AI dominance continues with new Nvidia partnershipHPE talks up AI’s role in boosting server businessHPE Discover 2024 live: All the news and updates from the day-two keynoteHPE Partner Growth Summit 2024: What can we expect for the channel?Everything you need to know about HPEWhat is HPE GreenLake?
16:0021/06/2024
Splunk .conf 24: Where now for Cisco's latest acquisition?
When Cisco announced it would be buying Splunk, doubts were raised over the company's future within its new home.Splunk .conf24, the company's annual conference, was a proving ground to see if these fears were well founded. According to ITPro's intrepid features editor, however, Splunk's brand is as strong as it ever was, with both Cisco's CEO and Splunk's GM offering reassurances that neither company's customers or partners will suffer in the wake of the acquisition.In this episode of the ITPro Podcast, Jane talks to Rory about his experiences attending the conference, where Splunk sits in Cisco's strategy, and if we're likely to see a .conf25.Splunk knows what it’s worth – .conf24 showed Cisco does tooExclusive: Splunk will play a key role in Cisco's AI plans, claims former CEOSplunk .conf24 live: All the news and announcements from the Las Vegas conference"Our job is not to screw up”: Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins vows to make Splunk ‘better’ following acquisition
20:2314/06/2024
May rundown: Google Cloud’s nightmare and OpenAI’s ambition
One of the most unexpected things to happen in May was a sudden outage at the Australian pension fund UniSuper.After days of confusion and concern that the fund may have been hit by a cyber attack among its customer base, it emerged that Google Cloud had accidentally deleted UniSuper’s entire cloud subscription. We dive into what lessons businesses can learn from this freak event.Also in May, OpenAI trumpeted its goal to unlock so-called artificial general intelligence (AGI) through new advancements. But is such a thing even possible, and who would it benefit?
23:5307/06/2024
Can green tech meet surging energy demands?
As the tech sector creates data at greater rates than ever before, using more cloud and on premise workloads, it’s more important than ever that firms consider their sustainability strategy and carbon footprint.Until the world has achieved net zero energy, every watt that goes into powering hardware and software adds to overall global emissions, with data center growth accounting for more and more global energy demand. Renewable energy and greater efficiency help with this but are not silver bullets.Breakthroughs in AI and quantum computing have put extra strain on data centers and thrown a spanner in the works when it comes to improvements in energy efficiency across the sector. In this episode, Jane and Rory discuss what the tech sector is doing to counteract this and whether the benefits of this new era can outweigh its carbon cost.
25:5131/05/2024
Dell Technologies World 2024: Bringing AI to the edge
As enterprise AI becomes more widely adopted, businesses are being forced to examine whether their architecture is up to the task. The feverish hype around AI in the public cloud that started in November 2022 has given way to greater investment in open ecosystems for AI and smaller models run at a business’s edge.From chatbots stored on a laptop for offline use to AI handling data produced by sensors in smart manufacturing, there’s a huge range of ways to use AI at the edge. But where is customer demand when it comes to this new frontier for this technology, and how has their understanding of AI architecture changed since this time last year?In this episode, recorded live at Dell Technologies World 2024, Rory speaks to Dermot O’Connell, senior vice president for EMEA services at Dell Technologies, to learn more about the changes in approach to enterprise AI and how businesses can prepare themselves for the technology’s adoption.Read more:Dell Technologies World 2024 live: All the news and announcements from day-two"The big obstacle isn't anything technical": Dell CTO John Roese on why companies are failing on AI adoptionDell Technologies expands AI ecosystem with Microsoft, Hugging Face supportDell doubles down on Nvidia partnership with ‘AI factories’ and models at the edgeWhat is 'multi-cloud by design'?Google shows off new smaller generative AI tools and an AI agent on your phone
34:3724/05/2024
LockBit leader revealed: What it means for ransomware
The LockBit ransomware group recently suffered another major blow at the hands of international law enforcement, as the UK’s NCA revealed the name and face of the group’s long-sought-after leader.Dmitry Khoroshev, known as ‘LockBitSupp’ on the dark web, was unmasked by the UK’s National Crime Agency (NCA) while the US Department of Justice announced a 26-count indictment against him.While this is a significant development in the fight against the group, what does it mean for LockBit in the long term and could it have lasting impacts on the ransomware landscape?In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to speaking to Solomon Klappholz, staff writer at ITPro and our resident expert on all things cyber security, to get us up to speed on the LockBit situation and explore what it means in more detail. Read more:LockBit mastermind unmasked by law enforcementLockBit could be done and dusted after NCA operation gained access to admin environments, source code, and affiliate infoFebruary rundown: LockBit takedown and ChatGPT woesLockBit rises from the ashes, but will it pack the same punch as before?The 'Big Three’ ransomware groups are losing their grip on the industry as gangs begin to fracture, study showsALPHV leak site seized by law enforcement as decryption tool releasedQakbot forced offline, but history suggests it probably won’t be foreverThis ransomware variant has now been used against 500 targets — here's what you need to knowWhat are the different types of ransomware?What you need to know about the new NCSC ransomware guidance“Security has to work together”: Cyber collaboration as a mission at CPX 2024The end of ransomware payments: How businesses fit into the fight
20:0617/05/2024
Embracing soft skills for AI integration
Some experts will tell you the first step in adopting AI is making sure your data is in order. But what about your skills? When it comes time to put AI in the hands of their workforce, leaders need to know that they’ll be able to hit the ground running and unlock productivity benefits without delay.Achieving this will involve investing in AI skills – but where should businesses begin and how far-reaching does this AI training need to be?In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Arun ‘Rak’ Ramchandran, president and global head of consulting and GenAI practice at Hexaware, to explore how businesses can ensure their internal AI skills can meet growing demands and challenges.
26:0710/05/2024
April rundown: Ransomware revenants and ‘open source’ AI
April has been a month of both highs and lows. At the start of the month, AWS was ordered to pay $525 million in damages, after it was found to have infringed US patent law through some of its core cloud offerings.The month has also seen a high-profile cyber incident – a ransomware attack against Change Healthcare in which personal information was stolen.All of this has unfolded against the backdrop of more innovation in the AI space, with the launch of Llama 3 and news from Google Cloud Next having buoyed market interest.In this episode, Jane and Rory speak once again to Ross Kelly, ITPro’s news and analysis editor, to explore some of the month’s most notable news items.Read more:AWS fined $525 million after US court rules Amazon S3 storage, DynamoDB services infringed patentsChange Healthcare hit with second ransomware attack of 2024UnitedHealth Group admits to paying ransom after Change Healthcare cyber attackCitrix vulnerability behind Change Healthcare cyber attack, CEO claimsMeta's Llama 3 will force OpenAI and other AI giants to up their gameJust how open are the leading open source AI models?
15:2703/05/2024
Is the UK’s AI approach working?
As AI initiatives gather steam, the public and private sectors are assessing the level of investment necessary to unlock the value of the new technology. It’s clear that large funds and a strategic approach will be necessary to bring the workforce along with employers.The UK government has announced several billion pounds in collective funding for AI projects and infrastructure deemed necessary for expanding the UK’s AI sector. As governments around the world look to unlock AI success of their own, however, is the UK’s current approach enough?In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Alex Case, senior director and government industry principal EMEA at Pegasystems to discuss how well the UK is positioning itself to take advantage of the growing AI market.Read more:UK competition watchdog says it has “very real concerns” over big tech AI dominanceUK AI regulation: Lawmakers reportedly eye a tighter approachMicrosoft believes the UK can become a "global leader in AI", but regulation needs fixingInvestment in UK AI firms plummeted last year despite the hype surrounding generative AIThe UK government’s AI goals are being stifled by ‘apocalyptic concerns’ over safety
27:1526/04/2024
Unraveling the EU AI Act
The EU’s AI Act has been approved, bringing in sweeping requirements, controls, and regulations for the development and use of AI tools throughout the region.But what are the precise measures it brings in, how can businesses prepare for the new rules, and what are the penalties for non-compliance?In this episode, Rory speaks to Nader Henein, VP Analyst at Garner, to explore the implications of the EU AI Act, how companies can prepare for the measures it brings in, and what it means for AI use worldwide.Read more:How the EU AI Act compares to other international regulatory approachesHow will the EU AI Act affect businesses?EU hammers out deal on AI Act, but it may have missed the markFrance, Germany, and Italy align themselves on AI regulation, but the EU may not like itEuropean AI startups risk being “regulated out of existence” under EU AI actWhat is GDPR? Everything you need to know, from requirements to finesGDPR costs are forcing firms to rethink data strategies
32:0219/04/2024
Google Cloud Next 2024: Building an AI advantage
This week has seen Google Cloud’s annual Next conference in full swing, with the hyperscaler having made major announcements on generative AI and the infrastructure necessary to support it.Having spent the past year playing catch-up with Microsoft and OpenAI, Google Cloud is now in a place where it’s ready to press its advantage in AI, years after the company first declared itself “AI first”. But has it succeeded in this mission, and if so – what are the tangible benefits for Google Cloud customers?In this episode, recorded live at Google Cloud Next 2024 Rory speaks to Bola Rotibi, Chief of Enterprise Research, CCS Insight, to explore some of the most notable trends at the event and unpack why Google has a strong advantage in the AI space.Read more:Google Cloud Next 2024: All the news and announcements liveGemini Code Assist could be Google's secret weapon to challenge GitHub CopilotGoogle Cloud doubles down on AI Hypercomputer amid sweeping compute upgradesGoogle Cloud targets ‘AI anywhere’ with Vertex AI AgentsAnthropic could be the champion AWS and Google needGoogle’s Hugging Face partnership shows the future of generative AI rests on open source collaborationMicrosoft Copilot review: AI baked into your appsYou’re going to have an AI copilot for everything you do – and you’ll probably hate it
10:3412/04/2024
March rundown: The return of state-backed hacking campaigns
March has been a month of concern for those in the cyber security community following revelations of extensive hacking campaigns carried out by state-backed groups.In the latter part of the month, it was reported that APT 31, a Chinese state-backed threat group, had accessed information on tens of millions of UK voters in a breach of the Electoral Commission. Threat actors had also targeted US politicians and businesses. What can we learn from the breach and how can organizations protect themselves against future state-backed threats?In this episode, Jane and Rory welcome back Ross Kelly, ITPro’s news and analysis editor, to explore the month’s cyber security developments.
21:4205/04/2024
Managing AI FOMO
Is your firm missing out on AI? It’s a question that has weighed heavy on the minds of tech leaders for the past 18 months and as new developments are announced leaders are presented with an ever-increasing buffet of AI products.While the pressure to commit to AI adoption can be intense, it’s essential that leaders integrate AI in a strategic fashion. But what does this mean in a practical sense and how can leaders match this need for caution against their fear of missing crucial AI opportunities?In this episode, Rory speaks to Sharon Mandell, CIO at Juniper Networks, to unpack how the expansion of AI is being handled by businesses, the response leaders can take to increased competition, and what forms AI will settle into at an enterprise level.Read more:The future of generative AI lies in open sourceThree open source large language models you can use todayBig Tech AI alliance has ‘almost zero’ chance of achieving goals, expert saysWhy not to invest in generative AI – for nowOpenAI's Sam Altman: Hallucinations are part of the “magic” of generative AIWill Nvidia's AI dominance shake up the public cloud ‘big three’?
33:0429/03/2024
Classic episode: The quantum security quandary
This classic episode of the ITPro Podcast was first published on 9 June 2023.Quantum computing is an inevitable technology, with the private sector and nation-states racing to be the first to unlock its potential. While it can be used for all kinds of good, quantum computing could also be used to unravel critical systems.The UK is one of several nations investing in quantum computing, with its government having announced £900 million for its own exascale quantum computer. Stakes are high as we enter into what some have dubbed a ‘quantum arms race’, with the first to successfully crack encryption holding all the cards when it comes to its myriad use cases.In this episode, Rory and Jane speak to Tim Callan, chief experience officer at cyber security firm Sectigo, about the current state of quantum computing research and how the industry can prepare for this seismic shift.For more information, read the show notes here.
38:0522/03/2024
What’s the future of data storage?
As technological innovations happen, it can be easy to forget that even the most complex systems rely on large networks of basic infrastructure to operate. At the most fundamental level, all tech products rely on effective data storage But this is easier said than done. Each byte of data has to be stored somewhere, on a rack, disk, tape, or flash device. As the world embraces hardware and software that creates data at an even faster rate, businesses will be forced to push the frontiers of data storage and evaluate their data management strategies.In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Tom Coughlin, president and CEO of the IEEE, to learn more about how data storage will continue to evolve and what organizations can do to keep up with innovation in the space.Read more:Best SSDs 2023: The top NVMe and SATA drives around10 things to consider when buying an external hard disk-based storage deviceWhat is machine learning and why is it important?What is generative artificial intelligence (AI)?Who owns the data used to train AI?How to choose the right storage medium for your organization’s backup strategyThree keys to successful data managementStructured vs unstructured data management5 things to consider when selecting your next online storage providerHow close is glass data storage to scaled enterprise use?
33:1115/03/2024
Supporting female founders in tech
The tech sector still has a long way to go when it comes to gender equality. While progress has been made over the years, women in tech face hurdles such as discrimination and outdated hiring processes. All of this works to drive women out of tech and uphold ingrained, sectoral biases.Female founders come up against these same challenges time and time again, which robs the industry of innovative firms and stems the flow of progress. For a more diverse sector, more work needs to be done on initiatives to support the next generation of women in tech.In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Laura Hutton, co-founder and chief customer officer at Quantexa, to discuss women in tech and the role leaders can play in improving equality throughout the sector.Read more:From this week women across the UK will effectively work for free - and in tech it’s even worseFive common barriers holding back women in techUK deep tech companies have a serious diversity problemSurge in female computing degree applications shows the tide is slowly turning on tech sector gender diversityUK’s female AI founders receive six times less funding than male counterparts“Shoehorning” female tech workers into management roles could harm inclusivitySexism in the UK tech sector is rife and shows no sign of abatingTech workers fear generative AI could "drive women out the workforce"Women in tech are being forced out of work by the ‘motherhood penalty’Tech sector gender gap could take “nearly 300 years” to close without interventionMale workers say sexism in the tech industry is “rare” - women would disagreeFixing STEM's gender bias with more classroom intervention
30:2208/03/2024
February rundown: LockBit takedown and ChatGPT woes
February has been an eventful month in the tech sector as ransomware operator LockBit, which has accrued billions of dollars in ill-gotten gains in its approximately four-year history, was taken down by an international task force spearheaded by the UK’s National Crime Agency.Elsewhere, ChatGPT suffered a major setback as users noticed the industry-leading chatbot had taken to answering prompts with complete gibberish. Though the issue was fixed within a day of being reported, it has raised important questions about the reliability of the service and the technology that underlies it.In this episode, Jane and Rory welcome back Ross Kelly, ITPro’s news and analysis editor, to explore February’s big cyber security story and discuss what ChatGPT’s moment of madness means for generative AI.Read more:LockBit could be done and dusted after NCA operation gained access to admin environments, source code, and affiliate infoLockBit rises from the ashes, but will it pack the same punch as before?Life after LockBit: A fragmented landscape and wayward affiliates will still cause chaos for enterprisesEuropol takes down 'dangerous' Emotet botnetQakbot forced offline, but history suggests it probably won’t be foreverEverything we know so far about the rumored ALPHV 'takedown'History tells us ALPHV will likely recover from recent takedownLockBit remains most dangerous ransomware despite fall in attacksThe 'Big Three’ ransomware groups are losing their grip on the industry as gangs begin to fracture, study shows
22:0601/03/2024
Tech's big burnout problem
STEM careers are often touted as those with the best prospects, but when it comes to job satisfaction things may not be quite so rosy. A stark number of workers in the tech industry are currently looking to move jobs – either into a different tech role or into another field entirely. Many more are facing the looming prospect of job cuts, while an increasing number are reporting poor working conditions. All this adds up to a disaffected and disengaged workforce – something leaders need to fix or risk losing valuable staff and the knowledge they hold.What can companies do to stem this issue, and how practical are these solutions? In this episode, Jane and Rory discuss the state of employee wellbeing in tech and how leaders can start to address issues such as burnout and turnover.Read more:How to combat high staff turnover in techAgile development is fading in popularity at large enterprises - and developer burnout is a key factorSurging cyber threats exacerbating security staff burnoutHybrid work means we’re burning out harder and faster than everA third of cyber security pros report crumbling work-life balanceCyber security professionals are exhausted, and it's putting firms at greater risk of attackFighting the ‘always on’ culture that’s savaging mental health in cyber securityBoosting mental health support in the workplaceUK's four-day week trial ends, leads to reduced burnout and sick daysThe company-wide benefits of mentorship in techGartner: Nearly half of cyber leaders to leave roles over mounting stressIT staff frustrated at rate of change in the workplaceFive ways to prevent digital transformation burnoutCan businesses use AI to beat burnout?AI employee monitoring will only burn bridges in the workplace
24:0423/02/2024
Do businesses have a plan for AI adoption?
As organizations look to integrate AI tools into their business models, key questions will have to be answered around how this fits in with their wider strategy. This doesn’t just mean data analysis or adoption of generative AI tools, but less directly connected initiatives such as sustainability goals.The adoption of AI is also running up against concerns around skills. Many organizations, if not most, are yet to truly determine which roles and tasks can be augmented and improved by AI services. Additionally, there are questions among workers and employers alike as to what emerging AI-focused skills they will need to acquire to stay competitive in their field.In this episode:Jane speaks to Pauline Yau, UKI verticals sales director at Hewlett Packard Enterprise, to unpack the current trends around AI and what the future holds for AI in business.Rory and Jane discuss the significance of these trends and how this may pan out in 2024.Read more:Why cutting-edge innovation is killing the planetHow HPE plans to combat generative AI’s 'dirty secret'The AI skills gap is prompting a widespread rethink on workforce upskillingHow the metaverse is powering next-gen digital twinsDoes your business need a digital twin?ChatGPT vs chatbots: What’s the difference?Global power shortages mean data centers could struggle to shoulder the burden of energy-intensive generative AI demands in 2024Tech industry takes vast lead in green energy spending, biggest companies vie for top spotScotland could be the next big data center powerhouse, offering greener options, significant savings, and direct access to renewable energy“We’ve made savings of around 85%”: Embracing green energy for data centers by migrating to Iceland
30:3516/02/2024
Learning from this January’s layoffs
It’s becoming something of a tradition for companies to ring in the new year with a wave of layoffs. In 2024, as in 2023, workforce reduction has been a major theme in the tech sector and beyond for January.As technologies such as AI take root, the nature and pace of layoffs is likely to change in the near future. Competing pressures of economic downturns and productivity shortfalls could change the tech workforce dramatically.In this episode, Jane and Rory are joined by Ross Kelly, ITPro’s news and analysis editor, to discuss the latest wave of tech sector layoffs, how they compare to previous years, and what this means for the future.Read more:Tech layoffs in 2024 show the ‘year of efficiency’ is here to stay, it just won't be quite as ruthlessCloudflare employee’s viral dismissal video offers a stark glimpse into the human cost of layoffsSundar Pichai’s “ambitious goals” for Google in 2024 rest on yet more layoffs as firm cuts hundreds of jobsThe reality of mass AI-linked job cuts is hereIBM’s CEO just said the quiet part out loud on AI-related job lossesIBM CEO in damage control mode after AI job loss commentsOnce again, PayPal starts the year with another round of job cutsWhat’s behind the wave of big tech layoffs in 2023?Microsoft seeks to ward off potential union action over AI job risksWith AI on the rise, is it time to join a union?First Microsoft union formed by ZeniMax workersThe tech industry needs to unionise now more than ever
26:1509/02/2024
Going cloud-native to bring VFX to life
If you’ve seen Oppenheimer, Dune, or Blade Runner 2049, then you’ve seen the work of DNEG. The British visual effects firm, formerly known as Double Negative, has had to contend with growing compute and data demands in its 26 year history, with thousands of hours of rendering required to bring the latest visuals from servers to the cinema screen. In recent years, DNEG’s legacy infrastructure began to feel the strain of this task, leading the firm to work with Red Hat to adopt a cloud-native approach.In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Ian Abbott, software architect at DNEG, and Ollie Harding, software infrastructure architect at DNEG, to discuss how the visual effects firm has adopted a cloud-native approach to help its artists be more productive.Read more:How cloud-native agility helped DNEG level up its award-winning VFXCloud-native tools are becoming more popular in Europe than the USRed Hat launches OpenShift Platform Plus alongside new managed cloud servicesRed Hat unveils new application services toolbox for developers
41:1302/02/2024
Do we have too much faith in technology?
Computers and technology have well and truly permeated our professional and private lives. While this has led to great strides in efficiency, opened up new opportunities for businesses and individuals, and helped us become more connected than ever before, there are also downsides.As the world becomes more digital and even menial tasks are increasingly outsourced to computer systems, a simultaneous shift in accountability and oversight needs to take place. Trust in computers is all too often automatic, with the pitfalls of this brought to life through the Horizon scandal in the UK. As we move to a future where AI is ubiquitous and computing permeates every level of life, how do we avoid a repeat of this kind of tragedy and move forward using AI in the most ethical way possible?In this episode, Jane and Rory discuss the fallibility of tech and why business leaders would do well to approach the data they receive from computer systems with a healthy dose of skepticism.Read more:Post Office Horizon scandal explained: Everything you need to knowOpenAI aims to reduce generative AI 'hallucinations' with new training methodOpenAI's Sam Altman: Hallucinations are part of the “magic” of generative AILabour must approach AI carefully to avoid repeating a Dutch disasterGovernment urged to save '555' Post Office workers from "financial ruin"Use of generative AI in the legal profession accelerating despite accuracy concernsWhat is ethical AI?
33:0526/01/2024
Can AI be used to boost business intelligence?
Business intelligence tools already help leaders learn more about the data that drives their business and make more informed decisions. BI dashboards, in particular, help business leaders quantify their successes and identify areas for improvement from one central point of access.When it comes to adopting AI effectively, proper oversight and understanding of your data can be of the utmost importance. On paper, there could be a strong role for a combination of BI and AI, with intelligent identification of patterns to inform IT leaders to a greater degree. But is it this simple in practice?In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Nick Magnuson, Head of AI at Qlik, to find out how business intelligence and AI can be brought together most effectively and some of the main mistakes businesses make when it comes to integrating the two.Read more:What is Business Intelligence (BI)?What is a business intelligence analyst?Four business benefits of AI-powered analyticsWhat is data analytics?A lack of data maturity could hamper enterprise AI ambitions in 2024Is AI the future of everything?Three keys to successful data managementWhy not to invest in generative AI – for now
34:1719/01/2024
Classic episode: Going passwordless
This classic episode of the ITPro Podcast was first published on 6 January 2023.Passwords can be tricky at the best of times. Proper password hygiene is one of the most important factors in endpoint security, as it keeps sensitive data secure and prevents threat actors from getting into important systems. Despite the risks, the use of weak or recycled passwords continues to be a problem even amongst IT professionals and remembering too many unique passwords is a strain. While systems such as multi-factor authentication have been used as an extra layer of security, groups like the FIDO Alliance and World Wide Web Consortium have been working to make passwords a thing of the past, in favour of more secure methods.This week, we spoke to Richard Meeus, EMEA director of security & technology strategy for Akamai Technologies, to explore the solutions driving secure sign ons, and how the sector can adapt to this change.Read more:Revealed: The top 200 most common passwords of 2022If not passwords then what?What are biometrics?What is two-factor authentication?What is multi-factor authentication (MFA) fatigue and how do you defend against attacks?How to implement passwordless authenticationBest password managersBest free password managersThe sooner the FIDO Alliance can shut down passwords, the betterWill FIDO passwordless authentication save cyber security?The top 12 password-cracking techniques used by hackers
30:3212/01/2024
Why does the DPDI matter?
The UK’s data privacy landscape has long come with strict responsibilities for businesses, requiring detailed justifications for all customer data stored and processed. After the UK formally exited the European Union in 2020, the UK retained regulations for controllers and processors via the UK GDPR which sits alongside the Data Protection Act 2018.Businesses have often criticized the red tape present within GDPR, arguing that it holds them back from carrying out the core functions of their business model. In response, the UK government has repeatedly backed the creation of a bill that would reform to UK data protection law and while this has been subject to some false starts, it is now underway as the Data Protection and Digital Information (DPDI) Bill.In this episode, Jane and Rory speak to Chris Combemale, CEO at the Data and Marketing Association and chair of the Government’s Business Advisory Group on reforms, to learn how the DPDI could improve UK innovation and where it differs from other laws.
29:1805/01/2024
The trends we’re watching in 2024
As business leaders reflect on the past 12 months and look forward to what the next might hold, a number of trends and technologies stand out. While AI is dead set to continue its large role in 2024, the impact of high-performance computing (HPC), the spread of new 5G technologies, and the pernicious role that increasingly sophisticated fraud tech will play is also worth exploring.For this new year’s edition of the podcast, Jane and Rory eschew predictions to focus on the top trends from this year that will continue to play a part in 2024.Read more:What is exascale computing?UK supercomputer boom as HPE and Dell receive funding for new AI clusterOfcom approves 5G mmWave, but what are its benefits?What are private 5G networks and can they transform the workplace?IBM CEO in damage control mode after AI job loss commentsThe reality of mass AI-linked job cuts is hereAI job risks: Skilled workers are most likely to lose out to artificial intelligence in UKWhy AI could be a legal nightmare for years to comeWho owns the data used to train AI?Real-time deepfakes are becoming a serious threatHow Intel's FaceCatcher hopes to eradicate real-time deepfakesC-suites consider quantum a serious threat and "amazing" deepfake attacks are just 'months away'Microsoft's VALL-E will usher in a new era of cyber crime
37:5329/12/2023
The 2023 that didn’t happen
So much has happened this year, not least in the areas of AI and social media, but at the same time some events have been some notable omissions. While generative AI has taken the world by storm, there is still much to prove about its business use cases and how it should be regulated. Security and hardware are also in a similar place to previous years, with the same threats and designs coming to the surface in 2023 in place of any revolutionary shifts.For this festive episode of the podcast, Jane and Rory discuss the biggest things that didn't happen this year, from things that were promised but didn't come to fruition or even events that have been awaited for years and still failed to show up in 2023.Read more:EU hammers out deal on AI Act, but it may have missed the markFrance, Germany, and Italy align themselves on AI regulation, but the EU may not like itWhy AI could be a legal nightmare for years to comeThe UK's hollow AI Safety Summit has only emphasized global dividesThe time has come to say arrivederci to the all-in-one PCThe AI-powered PC: From personal computer to personal companionWhy 2024 won’t be the year of AR, VR or any kind of immersive techWhat are the most-targeted industries for cyber attacks?Twitter's employee 'revolt' sparks survival concerns for a platform crumbling from within
37:1822/12/2023