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Technical deep dives with the entrepreneurs and developers building the decentralized economics networks which make up the Interchain. The Interop is hosted by crypto investor and podcaster @seb3point0.
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Why Cosmos Should Embrace EVM and Bitcoin DeFi with Valentin Pletnev of Quasar

Why Cosmos Should Embrace EVM and Bitcoin DeFi with Valentin Pletnev of Quasar

In this episode, Sebastien Couture and Valentin Pletnev of Quasar discuss Cosmos’s latest trends, challenges, and the increasing need for liquidity across the ecosystem. Valeyo shares insights on how Bitcoin and Ethereum liquidity could transform Cosmos, with projects like Babylon, Noble, and Osmosis leading the way. They explore the possibility of rebranding Cosmos and embracing EVM compatibility to attract new assets and users. Valentin also shares updates on Quasar’s work in creating innovative yield products and the emerging importance of BTC-focused DeFi for Cosmos. This episode dives deep into Cosmos’s path forward and the strategies that could position it as a central player in decentralized finance.Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.venturesTOPICS00:00 Intro01:00 The Cosmoverse Vibes02:30 Liquidity Challenges in Cosmos05:50 EVM Expansion08:30 Cosmos to Ethereum Transitioning12:00 Cosmos Ecosystem Perception14:00 Strategies for Attracting Liquidity17:00 Rollups vs App Chains20:00 Unlocking BTC Liquidity for Cosmos24:00 Quasar’s VisionGUESTValentin Pletnev on XQuasar WebsiteSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on XThe Interop on X
26:5820/11/2024
Cosmos & Celestia: Building the Next Generation of DeFi with Drop

Cosmos & Celestia: Building the Next Generation of DeFi with Drop

In this episode, Mitya Argunov, co-founder of Drop, explores the transformative potential of liquid staking across DeFi. He discusses Drop’s journey, the challenges of cross-chain liquidity, and why Cosmos and Celestia ecosystems play a critical role in the future of decentralized finance. Mitya shares insights on upcoming token unlocks, the impact of modular chains, and how Drop is creating more utility for staked assets. Join us for a deep dive into the future of cross-chain applications and Cosmos’ next chapter.Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.venturesTOPICS00:00 Introduction and TIA's Importance01:46 Drop’s Growth and Testing in DeFi04:58 Celestia's Impact on Multi-Sig Security06:54 Market Impact of TIA Unlock09:00 Cross-Chain Staking Potential12:04 Fragmented Ecosystem Challenges15:28 Cosmos and Celestia Restaking17:45 Utility of Liquid Stake Tokens18:30 Expanding Drop Beyond Cosmos21:28 Community-Driven Approach24:26 Cosmos’ Urgency for Innovation27:25 Enhancing Liquid Staking ExperienceGUESTSMitya Argunov on XSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on XThe Interop on X
30:0718/11/2024
Why Cosmos Chains Need to Think Bigger with Max Einhorn & Spaydh

Why Cosmos Chains Need to Think Bigger with Max Einhorn & Spaydh

At Cosmoverse 2024, Spaydh from Neutron and Max Einhorn from Valence dive into the future of Cosmos and the race to take crypto innovation mainstream. They discuss their “wartime mode” approach to building products, cross-chain liquidity, and expanding Cosmos’ reach into EVM and non-Cosmos ecosystems. Spaydh and Max envision Cosmos as a tech hub with products people actually want, breaking out of the Cosmos “bubble” to create integrated, user-focused DeFi applications. Tune in for insights on IBC, Cosmos Hub’s evolving role, and why the future of crypto demands bigger thinking.Consider staking with Interop Ventures by clicking the following link - https://interop.venturesTOPICS00:00 Intro03:59 - Resolving issues in Cosmos09:55 - IBC adoption & IBC Eureka13:10 - Bringing liquidity into Cosmos16:58 - Valence's partnership with Neutron27:12 - Running on Cosmos hub security29:32 - Opportunities for the hubGUESTSMax Einhorn on XSpaydh on XSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on XThe Interop on X
37:4712/11/2024
Why Decentralized AI Needs Cosmos: Greg Osuri or Akash Explains

Why Decentralized AI Needs Cosmos: Greg Osuri or Akash Explains

Sebastien Couture talks with Greg Osuri, founder of Akash, about Cosmos’ resilience, the push for decentralized AI, and the tech breakthroughs happening with Cosmos’ appchain model. Greg shares why Nvidia and other big names are exploring decentralized GPUs on Akash, how Cosmos can support open-source AI to avoid Big Tech control, and why Cosmos is seen as the “cockroach” of crypto—tough, resilient, and essential for the future of blockchain and AI. Tune in to learn how Cosmos tech is disrupting both AI and cloud computing.GUESTSGreg Osuri on XSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on XThe InteropConsider staking with Interop Ventures
55:0009/11/2024
Why Meme Coins Are Beating DeFi – Farmer’s Take

Why Meme Coins Are Beating DeFi – Farmer’s Take

Consider staking with Interop Ventures 🥩Sebastien Couture and Farmer, CEO of Defi Dojo Validator,Æ explore the shifting landscape of DeFi, meme coins, and Cosmos. Farmer shares why meme coins have captured the market’s attention, how communities like Defi Dojo evaluate yield farming opportunities, and what’s driving the explosive interest in AI-generated meme coins. Dive into the mechanics of points farming, the market’s “bag bias,” and the evolving role of Cosmos SDK in today’s DeFi scene. Whether you’re a DeFi nerd or just curious about crypto’s latest trends, this episode has it all.TOPICS04:20 - The next big prospect in Defi07:29 - The Appeal of Meme Coins15:20 - Key indicators for Meme Coins21:44 - Doge Coins & other classic Meme Coins25:34 - Bag biasSOCIALSSebastien Couture on XThe Interop on X
29:2104/11/2024
Will Cosmos Reach its Full Potential? Cryptocito at Cosmoverse

Will Cosmos Reach its Full Potential? Cryptocito at Cosmoverse

Consider staking with Interop VenturesJoin Cryptocito and Sebastien Couture as they dive into the intense planning behind Cosmoverse 2024 and the evolving identity of Cosmos. From the unique challenges of hosting events in Dubai to Cosmos’ growing pains and its brand identity debate, they reveal what it takes to rally the interchain’s true believers. Learn why Cosmos’ ecosystem could be the Linux of crypto, how it's responding to brand challenges, and why events like Cosmoverse are crucial—even if they’re “financial nightmares.”GUESTSCryptocito on XCryptocito on YoutubeSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on X @seb3point0The Interop on X
22:0131/10/2024
Solving the Interchain's Liquidity Problem with Mitya Argunov of Drop

Solving the Interchain's Liquidity Problem with Mitya Argunov of Drop

Mitya Argunov, Co-Founder of Drop, highlights the need for a new liquid staking protocol in the Cosmos ecosystem, emphasizing its integration with DeFi partners to enhance liquidity and use cases. Drop, built on Neutron, allows users to stake ATOM tokens, receive dATOM, and participate in DeFi, with plans to expand to Celestia and integrate with other roll-ups.Consider staking with Interop VenturesTOPICS00:00 Introduction04:12 Drop Launch06:36 Droplets Explained10:43 Native Staking & The Interchain20:04 Another LST?28:23 Beyond the Hub: What’s Next?31:58 Future Assets36:39 Drop vs Milkyway40:35 Celestia Liquid Staking43:15 Liquid Staking Opportunities47:41 Drop Architecture52:43 Exchange Rate Secrets62:15 How to Use Drop TodayGUESTSMitya on XLINKSMitya Argunov of Drop on Future Is Liquid: Launch of DropMitya, Vishal, Josie & Edgar on Liquid Staking: Fractional Reserve Banking for Crypto?SOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on XThe Interop on X
01:09:4530/08/2024
How Orchestration Makes Web 3 Feel More Like Web 2 w Dean Tribble of Agoric

How Orchestration Makes Web 3 Feel More Like Web 2 w Dean Tribble of Agoric

I sat down with Dean Tribble CEO of Agoric at Nebular Summit to chat chain abstraction, Agoric's implementation of Chain Orchestration and how these technologies improve applications and user experience in crypto.Consider staking with Interop Ventures TOPICS00:00 Introduction01:17 Chain Orchestration08:01 Interoperability10:23 User Experience & Safety16:54 Crypto Regulations24:24 NFT's25:25 Building with AgoricGUESTSDean on XSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on XThe Interop on X
28:2807/08/2024
Solving Ethereum Rollup Fragmentation with Austin King of Omni Labs

Solving Ethereum Rollup Fragmentation with Austin King of Omni Labs

Join us on this episode as we dive into the future of Ethereum Layer 2 solutions with the CEO of Omni! Omni is revolutionizing the way developers build across different Ethereum Layer 2 solutions by providing a robust messaging layer and compute layer. By solving the fragmentation issue, Omni taps into liquidity from different networks, facilitating seamless cross-chain applications in the Ethereum ecosystem. Its architecture includes a secure messaging layer for roll-up communication and an EVM-based compute layer, ensuring interoperability and collateral management across roll-ups. Secured through restaking, with nodes offering services backed by restaked ETH, Omni's future looks promising. With advancements in AI and natural language programming, the landscape of alternative VMs like Move and Wasm could further evolve, enhancing the Ethereum ecosystem's capabilities. Join us in exploring Omni's innovative solutions for Ethereum Layer 2!Consider staking with Interop VenturesTIMESTAMPS00:00 - Introduction11:12 - Blockchain Social-Fi Apps and Their Relevance16:05 - Ethereum is Confused23:58 - Vision and Architecture of Omni30:57 - Omni as a Roll-Up as a Service Platform35:18 - Enabling Cross-Chain Applications with Omni42:40 - Securing Omni through Restaking52:15 - The Future of Alternative VMs56:19 - The Potential of AIGUESTSAustin on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
01:00:4612/07/2024
Programmatic Monetary Policy for Protocols with Max Einhorn of Valence

Programmatic Monetary Policy for Protocols with Max Einhorn of Valence

Valence enables programmatic economic relationships between protocols. This allows crypto-native institutions (e.g., appchains & DAOs) to engage in complex financial interactions.Valence is live today with two sub-protocols in private beta: The Rebalancer lets protocols set desired portfolio targets and efficiently rebalance over time. Covenants enable crypto-native institutions to lend protocol-owned liquidity (POL).A key innovation is the ability to create POL markets, which is crucial for restaking. Valence ensures AVSs know exactly how much liquidity they will receive, making restaking protocols more attractive and generating new revenue sources.Valence is to liquidity what EigenLayer is to security. Beyond restaking, Valence enhances alignment between ecosystems and drives the future of the decentralized economy.Learn how Valence’s crypto-native institutional debt markets improve cross-ecosystem alignment and drive the future of the DeFi economy.Consider staking with Interop VenturesTOPICS00:00 Introduction 02:06 Building Timewave & Valence 07:37 Valence Endgame 13:05 Bringing Institutional Capital to Crypto16:55 What Valence Enables 22:09 Rebalancer24:53 Covenants31:04 Expressing Intent 38:16 Valence Architecture 41:07 Cosmos Hub Outlook 52:17 Protocol Monetary Policy 58:10 Final ThoughtsLINKSValence ProtocolGUESTSMax on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
01:02:3928/06/2024
Bitcoin is Making a Comeback with Matt Ye of Lorenzo

Bitcoin is Making a Comeback with Matt Ye of Lorenzo

Lorenzo is a Cosmos chain that leverages BTC shared security and enables liquid staking. In this conversation, Seb and Matt discuss the resurgence of interest in Bitcoin, particularly in the context of DeFi. They also explore the concept of liquid staking for Bitcoin and how it differs from liquid staking in proof-of-stake chains. Matt explains the architecture of Lorenzo, a Bitcoin liquid staking protocol built on the Cosmos chain, and how it leverages Babylon. They also touch on the different approaches to Bitcoin L2s and the importance of liquid staking to the success of the Bitcoin L2 ecosystem. Consider staking with Interop Ventures 🥩 TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:02:01 The Bitcoin Renaissance00:05:13 Technical Improvements Enabling Bitcoin L2s & OP_CAT00:12:51 Different Approaches to Bitcoin L2s00:17:58 Could Bitcoin Become a POS Chain?00:23:00 What is Lorenzo00:28:29 The Dual Token Model & Yield Sources00:30:36 Lorenzo Architecture00:49:14 BTC-Fi00:57:17 Current Status of LorenzoLINKSLorenzo Protocol WebsiteGUESTSMatt on TwitterMatt on LinkedInSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
59:3418/06/2024
Rebooting the Metaverse with Lex Avellino of Passage

Rebooting the Metaverse with Lex Avellino of Passage

Passage improves virtual experiences and collaboration, making them more organic and immersive and better reflecting the way we interact in real life. For creators, Passage is a platform that enables nearly unlimited creative freedom thanks to its use of the Unreal Engine. This allows creators to build unique experiences for their communities. How does this relate to crypto? The $PASG token is the economic foundation for a new creator economy where community members own their identity and digital assets.Consider staking with Interop Ventures 🥩TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:17:09 Is the Metaverse Dead?00:22:06 What is Passage00:31:10 How to Use Passage00:35:39 Crypto-Enabled Communities00:41:29 Cosmos SDK Architecture00:44:21 Akash Partnership00:53:59 Passage Elite00:57:38 RoadmapLINKSPassage's WebsiteGUESTSLex on TwitterLex on LinkedInSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
01:00:3714/06/2024
The Interchain Application Layer with Adair Kelley of Abstract

The Interchain Application Layer with Adair Kelley of Abstract

Abstract is an Interchain app platform enabling developers to build across CosmWasm-supported chains. Apps built with Abstract get automatic integrations with Interchain DEXes, lending markets, oracles, and liquid staking protocols.The core infrastructure is the Abstract Account, a smart contract wallet extendable with Abstract modules. One exciting use case is mesh applications, where chains form an Interchain DAO to vote on and fund public goods at a supra-chain level.Consider staking with Interop VenturesTOPICS00:00 Introduction02:33 CosmWasm Berlin Hackathon10:14 Evolution of CosmWasm 15:20 What is Abstract 24:21 Security32:06 Abstract-JS 34:36 Integrations36:11 Modulars37:48 IBC Email40:50 Abstract & EVM apps GUESTSAdair on XAbstract on XSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
53:1105/06/2024
Interwoven Rollups with Stan Liu & Ezaan “Zon” Mangalji of Initia

Interwoven Rollups with Stan Liu & Ezaan “Zon” Mangalji of Initia

Join us in this episode where we discover how Initia's vertically integrated tech stack seamlessly connects their L1s with application-specific L2 chains, enabling efficient inter-chain communication and solving the traditional fragmentation of multichain systems. We also explore the variety of development tools available (EVM, MoveVM & WasmVM), which simplify app deployment and significantly reduce the complexity for developers. Consider staking with Interop VenturesTOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:08:36 Appchains Debate00:14:35 Tackling Fragmentation00:17:31 Building on Initia00:25:05 Inside L2s 00:27:13 Role of Sequencers00:29:26 Scaling Limits00:30:33 L1s Services00:36:13 IBC Implementation00:37:57 Custom Modules00:40:06 OPinit Stack 00:41:59 VMs Integration 00:48:03 RaaS Market Competition00:52:59 Testnet OpportunitiesLINKSInitia's WebsiteGUESTSStan on TwitterZon on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
57:0522/05/2024
MONOLITHIC VS APPCHAINS with Eric Zhang & Brian Breslow of DoraHacks

MONOLITHIC VS APPCHAINS with Eric Zhang & Brian Breslow of DoraHacks

Join us in this episode as we explore how DoraHacks advances the hacker movement. Learn about Dora Factory's innovative public good staking and decentralized funding infrastructures. We also discuss Dora Vota's role in enabling fair and private community governance through Anonymous Minimal Anti-Collusion Infrastructure (aMACI). Additionally, we deep dive into the appchain thesis and how projects benefit from running their own sovereign chains over building on monolithic L1s.Consider staking with Interop Ventures TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:02:22 DoraHacks Overview00:10:51 Appchain Thesis00:20:11 L2s Thesis00:30:00 Cosmos SDK Evolution00:37:34 Solana Appchain Thesis00:45:58 Dora Factory & Dora Vota 00:52:08 MACI & aMACI Voting01:03:21 DoraHacks RoadmapLINKSDoraHacksMinimal Anti-Collusion InfrastructureVota: Special Purpose Blockchain for VotingWhat Will aMACI Unlock? Inevitability of UNIchainGUESTSEric Zhang on Twitter Brian Breslow on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on TwitterThe Interop on Twitter
01:07:2115/05/2024
The AI portfolio manager with Daniel Machlup of FortyTwo

The AI portfolio manager with Daniel Machlup of FortyTwo

Join us as we explore the innovative integration of AI in DeFi with Daniel Machlup from FortyTwo. FortyTwo is building the interface layer for cross-chain DeFi, tackling a critical challenge in the rapidly growing multi-chain ecosystem. The goal is simple, make cross-chain user experience easy for both users and protocols. Tune in to see how AI is reshaping crypto asset management, making it as simple as expressing your intention. Consider staking with Interop VenturesTOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:03:25 Building on Cosmos  00:05:45 Cosmos SDK Advantages00:08:33 Exploring FortyTwo00:16:03 Infrastructure Providers00:17:38 Solver Marketplace00:38:31 Architecture00:39:53 Wallet UX Enhancements00:42:04 Osmosis Smart Accounts00:44:14 Beta Launch OverviewLINKSFortyTwoGUESTSDaniel Machlup on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on TwitterThe Interop on Twitter
48:4907/05/2024
DeFi Risk Modelling & Management with Marijo Radman and Benedikt Eikmanns of Alterscope

DeFi Risk Modelling & Management with Marijo Radman and Benedikt Eikmanns of Alterscope

Join us as we delve into the complexities of risk management in decentralized finance (DeFi), where Alterscope pioneers with its risk ZK coprocessor and zero-knowledge proof technology to tackle unique challenges such as liquidity and protocol risks. Uncover how Alterscope's advanced tools not only quantify new kinds of risks but also offer a dynamic platform for effectively modeling and managing them, including a detailed look at the crucial data sets used for assessing oracle risks to ensure DeFi's data reliability.Consider staking with Interop Ventures 🥩 TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:04:16 Crypto Risk Management00:10:13 Pricing Web3 Risk00:13:22 TradiFi vs DeFi Risk Management00:15:16 Understanding Alterscope00:21:42 Oracle Risks00:27:26 Risk Marketplace Participants00:37:41 Enhancing DeFi Yield Strategies00:40:53 Restaking00:46:08 Staking Providers Risks00:51:06 Impact on Future of DeFi00:55:30 Product RoadmapLINKSAlterscopeGUESTSMarijo on TwitterBenedikt on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
57:4430/04/2024
Decentralized Storage for IBC Chains with Patrick Dunlop & Marston Connell of Jackal

Decentralized Storage for IBC Chains with Patrick Dunlop & Marston Connell of Jackal

Discover Jackal Protocol in this episode as we delve into its decentralized storage solution, enhancing blockchain interoperability and real-time data access through its Cosmos Layer 1 platform. Learn how Jackal ensures data reliability with advanced redundancy and frequent verification, supporting a wide array of Web3 applications. Consider staking with Interop VenturesTOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:06:58 Decentralised storage00:13:45 DePIN is a hot topic00:16:06 Jackal - how it works00:25:47 Role of the Cosmos SDK module00:27:09 EVM Contracts00:28:37 Jackal Proof-of-Persistence (JPOP)00:41:13 Most exciting use cases00:46:44 Tokenomics & Economics of Perpetual Storage00:57:51 Interoperability & IBCLINKSJackal Protocol Jackal LabsJackal Proof-of-Persistence (JPOP)​GUESTSPatrick on TwitterMarston on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
01:05:3325/04/2024
ZK Proof Aggregation with Garvit Goel of Electron Labs

ZK Proof Aggregation with Garvit Goel of Electron Labs

Electron Labs aggregates zero-knowledge proofs across protocols into a single superproof, which is then verified on Ethereum. Thanks to the use of recursive ZK proofs, this collective approach lowers verification costs to less than 1% of current rates. This is a huge unlock for applications leveraging ZK: Privacy, micro rollups, DA bridges, IBC, and more.TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:02:56 Cost of ZK proof verification00:07:10 ZK proofs & Rollups00:14:36 ZK light client00:16:52 Superproofs00:22:28 Electron trust assumptions00:24:14 Electron's Architecture00:31:27 Challenges00:34:38 Electron SDK00:44:00 Interoperability and IBC00:48:43 Union & Polymer approach00:52:55 ZK Proof endgame LINKSElectron LabsElectron Labs on TwitterGUESTSGarvit on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on TwitterThe Interop on Twitter
58:4212/04/2024
Securing Cosmos Chains with Celestia DA - Jack Zampolin of Rollchains & Strangelove

Securing Cosmos Chains with Celestia DA - Jack Zampolin of Rollchains & Strangelove

Rollchains introduce new ways to build, maintain and scale Cosmos chains. New and existing Cosmos SDK chains can enable the Rollchains module to post block data to Celestia. Built with POA chains in mind, Rollchains promises to reduce the cost of securing chains while maintaining a high Nakamoto coefficient, potentially transforming the tokenomics of chains that struggle to cover the inflationary cost of maintaining a validator set. TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:02:46 Blockchain gaming00:05:41 Cosmos design philosophy 00:12:15 Cosmos Alignment00:17:58 Why build a rollchain00:25:37 IBC & interoperability00:30:34 Rollchain Cosmos SDK module00:37:27 Rollchain DA support00:39:12 Roll Apps Vs. Rollchains00:41:41 Working with Ethos00:47:06 Long-term future of Ethereum00:48:58 Thoughts on Movement00:53:18 Polymer and Union00:54:16 Skip: Unsung Heroes of CosmosGUESTSJack on TwitterLINKSRollchainsStrangeloveSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
56:1102/04/2024
The Future of DAO Governance with Nicolas Biagosch of Q Protocol

The Future of DAO Governance with Nicolas Biagosch of Q Protocol

Q protocol is a decentralized governance layer for Web3 that allows developers to build organizational constitutions that are enforced by smart contracts and include off-chain avenues for resolving disputes the code can't deal with. Built as a fully EVM-compatible Layer 1 for maximum security, the protocol is live with a full set of infra and applications supporting the ecosystem. It prevents governance exploits and reduces legal and regulatory risks associated with centralized decision making.TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:06:52 Governance by code00:10:44 Practical cases where DAO governance has failed00:19:30 What is Q and how does it make a difference00:22:58 Beyond Code is law00:27:15 The Q Consititution00:34:41 Stakeholders in the Q blockchain00:37:21 The role of the token holders00:40:57 Difference between validators and root nodes00:45:29 Expert panels and their roles00:47:58 Q Token holders' competence to vote00:49:52 The practical steps in this mechanism00:55:25 Do you need to build your DAO on Q00:57:16 Integration with Q00:59:53 Network stakes01:02:38 The worrying US tax system01:05:20 Discussion on decentralised AI01:08:02 DeFi is going nowhere01:12:47 Learn more about QGUESTSNicolas on TwitterLINKSQ WhitepaperSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
01:13:5027/03/2024
Cosmos Hub ICS Security Marketplace with Jehan Tremback of Informal Systems

Cosmos Hub ICS Security Marketplace with Jehan Tremback of Informal Systems

Informal Systems is a Cosmos contributor that works on the Cosmos Hub, which is the first blockchain in the Interchain. The Cosmos Hub is one of thousands of blockchains that will eventually make up the Cosmos Network. The Hub's primary token is ATOM, but it will support many other tokens in the future. Interchain Security is one of the main services the Cosmos Hub provides. It enables other blockchains to be secured through Proof-of-Stake (PoS) by the ATOM token, which holds one of the largest market capitalizations in the interchain ecosystem.TOPICS00:00:00 - Introduction00:02:20 - 5th anniversary of the hub00:04:13 - Shift in the vision of Cosmos SDK00:07:59 - The role of a Cosmos Hub Lead00:12:44 - Business development and its role under Informal Systems00:19:32 - Shared security on the hub - Interchain Security00:26:19 - The shift in vision00:31:20 - The subset problem00:38:41 - The old way vs the new00:42:15 - The babylon partnership - additional security00:48:20 - How the hub competes in the landscape00:50:21 - Ethos and what they're building00:53:24 - Cosmos Alignment and how it's perceived00:55:46 - The end gameLINKSBabylon Bitcoin SecurityInterchain Security: Partial Set SecurityComos-Ethereum ConvergingAtomic composability - IBCAtom WarsSOCIAL MEDIA (Twitter)Sebastien CoutureThe Interop
57:0618/03/2024
FAIR TOKEN LAUNCHES with Simon Chadwick of Eclipse

FAIR TOKEN LAUNCHES with Simon Chadwick of Eclipse

Eclipse Fi is a revolutionary hub for interchain token launches, bringing the value back into the hands of early communities. Eclipse Mainnet, launching in Q1 2024, is the fastest Ethereum L2, powered by the SVM. With an architecture that combines the best pieces of the modular stack, developers get all the benefits of dedicated throughput with none of the downsides. Eclipse makes it possible to build applications that can coordinate masses of people and scale with any developer’s needs.TOPICS00:00:00 - Introduction00:06:46 - Terra's Collapse00:10:27 - the next cycle of token launches00:20:23 - Centralised vs Decentralised platforms 00:22:49 - Implementing KYC & compliance for projects00:27:15 - The vision for eclipse00:31:32 - Benefits of launching projects on Eclipse00:35:16 - Supported launch mechanisms00:37:47 - Reputation on the user side00:41:07 - CIBIL00:43:11 - How zkKYC works00:47:17 - Liquidity hub00:54:20 - Why Eclipse was built on Neutron00:57:29 - Roadmap for Eclipse FiGUESTSSimon on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIA (Twitter)Sebastien CoutureThe Interop
01:00:0806/03/2024
SLINKY ORACLE with Maghnus Mareneck of Skip

SLINKY ORACLE with Maghnus Mareneck of Skip

Skip Protocol helps sovereign blockchain protocols supercharge their blockspace to improve user experience, enhance interoperability, and enrich network stakeholders. The protocol has recently unveiled Slinky, an “Oracle” aggregator designed for perpetual markets and DeFi as a whole.TOPICS00:02:10 - Major Developments at Skip00:04:40 - The slinky announcement00:14:15 - Use cases for Slinky00:21:10 - The architecture and how validators are coordinating 00:25:11 - Levana Attack in relation to the architecture00:27:14 - Pricing and Slashing00:35:18 - Is there a compromise?00:38:16 - What vulnerabilities and attacks can Slinky prevent00:45:15 - The opportunity cost of using Skip00:48:36 - How it fits in the modular stack00:53:51 - Slinky:The Rolls Royce of Oracles00:59:18 - Slinky's origin and potential customers01:03:02 - ConclusionLINKSGitHub - Skip-mev How Slinky can prevent Oracle Manipulation AttacksSlinky: Twitter AnnouncementGUESTSMaghnus on TwitterSkip's WebsiteSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
01:03:5813/02/2024
CELESTIA LIQUID STAKING with Fabo & Jay B of Milky Way

CELESTIA LIQUID STAKING with Fabo & Jay B of Milky Way

MilkyWay is a liquid staking solution for the Celestia ecosystem, initially starting its deployment and operation on Osmosis. When individuals liquid stake their TIA coins through MilkyWay, they obtain an on-chain representation of their TIA staking position, termed as milkTIA. This allows Celestia token holders to access liquidity for their staked assets, facilitating trading or their utilization as collateral in different DeFi products.TOPICS00:06:27 - When did the protocol launch?00:07:43 - Growth and support from the community00:08:25 - Liquid staking00:10:09 - What is liquid staking evolving into00:12:25 - What is Milky Way?00:14:38 - Where can people use their MilkTIA00:17:23 - The design00:26:13 - The agent and how it interacts with the multisig00:31:59 - Fudding the multisig00:34:22 - Purpose of the contract00:38:23 - How the validators are chosen00:47:56 - Milky Way's position in the liquid staking space00:51:54 - Endgame for Milky Way in the Celestia ecosystem00:55:38 - The roadmapLINKSMilky WayAuthZ Delegated MultisigGUESTSJayB on LinkedInFabo on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
58:4605/02/2024
BUILD WHATEVER WHEREVER with Omer Mishael of Lava Network

BUILD WHATEVER WHEREVER with Omer Mishael of Lava Network

Lava is a modular data network for scaling access to any blockchain. The network can flexibly support any RPC and API. Lava works with rollups and blockchains to consolidate and improve their node infrastructure. Providers are rewarded for their quality of service, so your users can fetch data and send transactions with speed, data integrity and uptime. Lava helps developers build web3-native apps on any chain.TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:05:48 Lava's USP00:10:22 Uber for blockchain data00:13:39 RPC and Relayers00:23:26 Lava's paradigm and how it works00:31:47 How does the matching happen?00:39:48 Clustering mechanism00:42:29 Participants in Lava functionality00:51:55 Modular Stack - Lava's contribution00:56:10 Light Clients 01:01:04 Road to mainnet LINKSLava on TwitterGUESTSOmer Mishael on Linkedin------------------------------------SOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
01:05:0229/01/2024
MODULAR MOVE ROLLUPS with Rushi Manche of Movement Labs

MODULAR MOVE ROLLUPS with Rushi Manche of Movement Labs

Movement Labs is a modular framework to build and deploy Move-based infrastructure, applications, and blockchains in any distributed environment. They offer an open network for creators to build and grow. The team is building a suite of products and services that empower non-Move protocols to leverage the power of the Move Programming Language without writing a single lineof Move code. TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:04:58 EVM is going to zero00:12:33 Overview of Movement00:16:25 M2: Roll up framework00:18:27 Decision tree for a developer00:20:51 Noble and Union Partnership00:25:41 Fractal module: Backwards Compatibility 00:28:50 Risky Opcodes in Ethereum00:31:50 Native USDC00:33:36 How move benefits IBC00:35:12 Future of Cosmos00:40:08 Long term compatibility between VMs00:42:55 Movement Labs: Parthenon Roadmap00:44:35 Decentralised Share Sequencer00:47:24 Validators for M100:48:30 Token and Air Drop?00:48:59 Community program00:51:33 ETF ApprovalLINKSM2 Announcement Movement + Noble + Union PartnershipMovement RoadmapEthereum Opcodes GUESTSRushi Manche on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on TwitterThe Interop on Twitter
55:2619/01/2024
LEVANA RELAUNCH with Jonathan Caras of Levana

LEVANA RELAUNCH with Jonathan Caras of Levana

Levana is a decentralized exchange protocol designed to enable leveraged positions for any asset. Levana enables permission-less, censorship-resistant Capital efficient markets. Levana is the only platform with zero insolvency risk, so your PnL is always safe. Currently market launches and configuration is permissioned, but Levana's goal is to create a permissionless protocol which enables anyone to be able to launch a leveraged market for any asset.TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:01:55 The ETF Approval00:06:28 Ben Franklin with laser eyes00:12:30 The token launch00:24:23 Attack timeline00:28:30 Details of the attack00:29:04 Targeted pools00:34:09 Oracle Exploitation & how it works00:42:16 Other oracle solutions00:46:55 Learnings from the attack00:49:50 Mitigation and relaunch00:57:42 Thoughts on adding LVN tokens & Staking01:00:22 Positive outlook for LevanaLINKSInitial Security AlertLevana exploit postmortemDelta price attack explainedJacob Gabikian post on p2p stormGUESTSJonathan on Twitter Levana on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
01:03:1016/01/2024
Cosmos in 2024 LIVESTREAM with Cryptocito, Sam Hart, Farmer and Stephen TCG

Cosmos in 2024 LIVESTREAM with Cryptocito, Sam Hart, Farmer and Stephen TCG

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ TOPICS GUESTS ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:24:0706/01/2024
GENERALIZED ABSTRACTION with Anthony of XION

GENERALIZED ABSTRACTION with Anthony of XION

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures XION is the first L1 purpose built for mass consumer adoption through its Generalized Abstraction layer. It is a paradigm shift, paving the way for mainstream adoption of Web3 by enabling seamless user experiences for everyday users through protocol-level implementations. It focuses on accounts, signatures, payments, interoperability, devices, and pricing. TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:09 Burnt Banksy 00:05:12 Early NFT Projects 00:07:34 Nobody gives a shit about crypto 00:12:06 What is XION 00:13:30 XION in comparison to other protocols 00:15:51 Generalized Abstraction 00:18:37 Integration with other chains 00:21:19 Advantage of integrating with XION 00:23:28 Meta accounts and how it works 00:27:50 Abstraction 2.0 do we need a wallet anymore? 00:30:59 Onboarding legacy accounts 00:38:15 Too much power to Apple and Google 00:40:20 Parameterised Fee Layer 00:47:13 The Mint module 00:54:53 Why XION chose Cosmos LINKS https://linktr.ee/burnt_ XION Whitepaper: https://xion.burnt.com/whitepaper.pdf GUESTS Burnt Banksy: https://x.com/burntbanksy ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:00:2504/01/2024
ATOM ALIGNMENT with Noam Cohen of Binary Builders

ATOM ALIGNMENT with Noam Cohen of Binary Builders

Binary Builders is a leading group of builders in the Interchain ecosystem providing a range of services with the goal to help build the future of Web3. They serve as the primary maintainer of the Cosmos SDK. Binary Builders authored the Atom Alignment thesis posted to the Cosmos Hub Forum which focuses on AEZ Growth, financial alignment w/ consumer chains, and increasing decentralization of the Hub's voting power.TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:05:20 What is Binary Builders?00:08:54 Interchain Builders Program00:11:28 Business development in Cosmos00:16:52 Areas of research00:21:51 Atom Alignment - 3 modules00:26:02 Growing Atom & AEZ00:30:15 KPI's to look for00:33:41 Details of the treasury00:39:02 Should all proposals go through governance?00:45:54 Voting on Telegram - IBC Bot00:48:01 Drip Module - How it works00:51:32 Building on Cosmos SDK vs Cosmwasm00:56:13 The Hub, AEZ & the future01:00:11 Chain features & Atom as money01:00:58 The Hub's most valuable attribute01:02:26 Thoughts on Sunny's take?01:07:56 Next steps with alignment treasuryLINKSBinary BuildersMessari State of Cosmos Hub: https://messari.io/report/state-of-cosmos-hub-q3-2023Atom Alignment Forum Post: https://forum.cosmos.network/t/discussion-aez-growth-the-atom-alignment-treasury/11467Onchain Governance Proposal for Atom Alignment: https://www.mintscan.io/cosmos/proposals/864IBC Bot: https://ibc.botGUESTSCreators & Guests Noam Cohen - Guest Sebastien Couture - Host
01:09:5229/12/2023
ATOM IS MONEY with Sunny Aggarwal of Osmosis

ATOM IS MONEY with Sunny Aggarwal of Osmosis

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures Osmosis is an Interchain DEX that lets you swap, earn, and build on the leading decentralized Cosmos exchange. Building Interchain-native apps and smart contracts, as well as analyzing assets and liquidity, are all made possible by Osmosis's tools. ------------------------------------ TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:38 The Mars-Neutron merger 00:12:10 Sunny’s take on Mars leaving Osmosis 00:17:01 Competition & stealing liquidity 00:21:33 Osmosis and Umee’s merger 00:23:05 Appchains merging & becoming rollups 00:25:03 Proposal #858 & AEZ 00:33:27 Community’s reaction to the proposal 00:34:40 Atom is money 00:44:46 What’s the vision & the plan? 00:50:18 Views on Atom1 & LSDs 00:57:07 Osmosis 2.0 - CL hooks & smart accounts 01:04:48 Exciting Osmosis applications LINKS Osmosis: https://osmosis.zone Proposal #858: https://wallet.keplr.app/chains/cosmos-hub/proposals/858 GUESTS Sunny on Twitter: https://twitter.com/sunnya97 ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:08:0613/12/2023
BUILD WHATEVER with Nick White of Celestia

BUILD WHATEVER with Nick White of Celestia

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures Celestia is a modular data availability (DA) network that securely scales with the number of users, making it easy for anyone to launch their own blockchain without having their own validator set. Celestia recently launched on Mainnet, going from white paper to protocol. Many exciting applications are being built with Celestia and new primitives are being discovered in the realm of Data availability sampling (DAS), Light nodes, DA narratives and more. ------------------------------------ TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:38 Celestia's Launch: white-paper to protocol 00:03:35 Crypto community's reaction to the launch 00:07:39 Will app-chains supplement security with Celestia? 00:11:23 What's the deal with "build whatever"? 00:16:06 Light node meme 00:28:03 The two other nodes that exist in Celestia 00:31:55 Name spaces - what are they? 00:35:49 Ethereum x Celestia - Blobstream 00:41:32 Can Existing L2's leverage this DA? 00:49:49 Future of modular security 00:59:00 The DA narrative with relation to security 01:04:28 Exciting things being built on Celestia 01:10:53 The modular era & sovereign rollups LINKS Celestia: https://celestia.org/ Introducing Blobstream: https://blog.celestia.org/introducing-blobstream/ GUESTS Nick on Twitter: https://twitter.com/nickwh8te/media ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:18:4108/12/2023
BUILDING THE AEZ with Youssef Amrani of AADAO

BUILDING THE AEZ with Youssef Amrani of AADAO

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures Atom Accelerator DAO (AADAO) is a grant focused DAO for the Cosmos Hub, funded by the Hub. AADAO currently focuses on ecosystem initiatives and public goods with the goal of aligning the ecosystem and driving value for ATOM. AADAO has been around for 9 months and been giving grants for 6 months. AADAO is also actively working towards wrapping the DAO in a legal structure in order to have a cohesive onchain and offchain existence. ------------------------------------ TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:28 Youssef's background 00:05:30 Atom 2.0 whitepaper and lessons learned 00:14:04 What is AADAO? 00:18:41 Mandate and funding of AADAO 00:22:23 AADAO's objectives and accomplishments 00:25:25 AADAO's grants 00:39:19 Research areas of AADAO + outcomes 00:50:05 Prop 848 00:54:40 Is the Cosmos Hub overpaying for security? 01:03:47 Should the ICF be funding AADAO? 01:08:55 Hot take - will ATOM be a top 5 chain? LINKS Website: https://www.atomaccelerator.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ATOMAccelerator 2024 Funding Proposal for AADAO: https://forum.cosmos.network/t/funding-atom-accelerator-dao-for-2024/12249 Atom Accelerator 2023 Impact Report: https://www.atomaccelerator.com/blog/2023-impact-report Grants issued by AADAO: https://www.atomaccelerator.com/grant-issued GUESTS Youssef Amrani, Co-Founder: https://twitter.com/youssef_amrani ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:15:0905/12/2023
ETHEREUM IBC HUB with Bo Du of Polymer

ETHEREUM IBC HUB with Bo Du of Polymer

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures This episode is all about Polymer's shift to the OP stack. Polymer just announced they will transition to operate as a rollup leveraging the OP stack, and build Ethereum's interoperability hub. Polymer will no longer build a Cosmos app-chain secured by Cosmos validators. Polymer will use Ethereum for security, and the Eigen Layer for for data availability. ------------------------------------ TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:38 Polymer's IBC Summit 00:04:43 Polymer's shift to Ethereum 00:08:10 High level vision of Polymer 00:11:58 Connecting EVM chains to IBC 00:17:30 Futures contract and perpetuals 00:16:55 OP stack + Polymer 00:21:25 How Polymer's rollup will implement IBC 00:27:34 Bringing IBC to Ethereum 00:29:50 Challenges of implementing IBC + fraud proof layer 00:34:33 Cosmos Hub running Ethereum clients? 00:37:37 Multihop channel IBC 00:40:03 Benefit of bringing Polymer to ETH as a rollup 00:46:28 Polymer using Ethereum for security and Eigen for DA 00:48:05 Polymer's use of OP 00:53:42 Monomer SDK 01:00:11 Go to market strategy 01:01:52 Merging Ethereum and Cosmos 01:04:52 Road to mainnet LINKS Website: https://www.polymerlabs.org/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Polymer_Labs Blog: https://polymerlabs.medium.com/ Bo's Talk at Nebular Summit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmZiHj8lbrg GUESTS Bo Du, Technical Lead: https://twitter.com/0xshake ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:05:5028/11/2023
DYDX V4 MAINNET with Charles d'Haussy of dYdX

DYDX V4 MAINNET with Charles d'Haussy of dYdX

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures In 2017 dYdX was launched as a decentralized exchange protocol. Fast forward to 2023 and dYdX has reached over 1T in total trading volume and commands a TVL of over $300m. Just last month dYdX released dYdX V4 which is a standalone open-source blockchain built on the Cosmos SDK. With dYdX V4 the product development and governance is in the hands of the respective subDAOs, validators, dYdX stakers, and community members contributing to its future development. This was originally recorded for the Epicenter podcast ------------------------------------ TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:40 Charles Background 00:05:03 How did Charles join dYdX Foundation as CEO? 00:06:45 Decision making process for moving dYdX to its own chain 00:13:06 Is it an issue that the dYdX Cosmos chain isn't EVM compatible? 00:17:30 Futures contract and perpetuals 00:20:30 Permissionless markets 00:31:10 Can DeFi compete with CEXs? 00:38:04 Current state of dYdX post launch 00:41:15 Validator voting challenges 00:44:52 Challenges of dYdX's decentralization 00:48:41 Different entities that govern dYdX 00:52:14 MEV in dYdX? 00:54:44 Charles' opinion on MEV in dYdX 00:57:10 Working with the Cosmos ecosystem 01:01:40 Astropolis and Charles' vision for the future 01:06:45 Does Urbit tie into dYdX? 01:08:40 AI's agents role in crypto LINKS Website: https://www.dydx.foundation/ dYdX Exchange: https://dydx.exchange/ dYdX Foundation Twitter: https://twitter.com/dydxfoundation Charles' Talk at Cosmoverse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNM7rO1Nwas GUESTS Charles d'Haussy, CEO: https://twitter.com/charlesdhaussy ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:13:4818/11/2023
LIQUIDITY ROUTER with Fig of Squid

LIQUIDITY ROUTER with Fig of Squid

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ Squid was built out of the need to communicate with multiple blockchains when there is not just one dominant chain. Squid is the router for moving assets across different chains, utilizing Axelar as the underlying layer. Squid does the work of figuring out the best path and rates for swapping assets across ecosystems, and simplifies this into a one-click process for the user. Squid has packaged swaps, bridges, and message transfer into one router. TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:55 Fig's background 00:06:18 What is Squid? 00:11:11 Pain points for developers Squid is solving 00:13:20 Squid's relationship to Axelar 00:17:50 Message passing layer 00:20:30 Gas management in Axelar 00:22:40 Atomicity guarantees between chains 00:25:55 Will intents lead to everything going off-chain? 00:33:20 User considerations using Axelar over other interoperable solutions 00:41:56 Longterm view of $AXL and $USDC 00:45:20 Squid integration with Noble and dYdX 00:48:07 Bridge asset fungibility and liquidity fragmentation 00:54:02 ETH stake used to secure Cosmos chains? 00:55:51 What would a Squid token be used for? 00:57:55 Squid business model LINKS Website: https://www.squidrouter.com/ Squid dApp: https://app.squidrouter.com/ Squid Twitter: https://twitter.com/squidrouter GUESTS Fig, Co-Founder: https://twitter.com/ecdsafu ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
59:5109/11/2023
COSMOS IBC EVERYWERE with Karel Kaiser of Union

COSMOS IBC EVERYWERE with Karel Kaiser of Union

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ Union builds Zero Knowledge infrastructure for interoperability that will enable permissionless and trust minimized message passing between the Interchain and Ethereum. Union is based on consensus verification and has no dependencies on trusted third parties, oracles, multi-signatures, or MPC. Union is the first messaging protocol with an IBC connection between Ethereum and their testnet. TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:45 Karel's background 00:06:25 Karel's take on Cosmos ecosystem 00:08:08 Union product & mission 00:10:45 Verifying the state between chains 00:15:30 Consumer hardware generated proofs 00:17:25 Union architecture 00:21:30 Comet BLS 00:27:30 What are storage/state proofs? 00:29:15 How does BLS enable more validators? 00:32:49 Relayer architecture - Galois and Voyager 00:36:46 Realyers for sending/receiving messages cross-chain 00:42:38 Why Unions doesn't use governance proposals to run chains 00:46:30 Need for packet forward middleware? 00:49:48 Union & Celestia 00:53:04 Leveraging Interchain security across Ethereum 00:57:50 Union enables BTC transfers into IBC 01:02:46 Union roadmap LINKS Website: https://union.build/ Blog: https://union.build/blog/ Unioned FAQ: https://docs.union.build/ Union Twitter: https://twitter.com/union_build GUESTS Karel Kaiser, CEO: https://twitter.com/0xkaiserkarel ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:06:3207/11/2023
MODULAR BASE LAYER with Anurag Arjun of Avail

MODULAR BASE LAYER with Anurag Arjun of Avail

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ Avail is a modular blockchain built to scale other blockchains, spun out of Polygon. It provides a fast, secure data and consensus layer for launching a sustainable blockchain. Avail is part of a growing modular ecosystem in the ongoing effort to increase data availability for blockchains. Avail's final incentivized testnet is starting in the end of October with final audits by the end of the year, and mainnet launch expected in 2024. TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:13 Introduction to Anurag 00:04:18 Starting Avail while at Polygon 00:07:19 Tradeoffs when choosing security layers 00:16:15 Longterm viability of EVM Rollups 00:24:00 Avail's stack 00:29:22 Avails vs Celestia 00:40:10 Data Availability Sampling 00:49:45 Tradeoffs in increasing block size 00:54:24 Economics of Avail 01:04:10 Avail roadmap, milestones, and challenges LINKS Website: https://availproject.org/ Blog: https://blog.availproject.org/ Blogpost on data availability layer: https://blog.availproject.org/a-guide-to-selecting-the-right-data-availability-layer/ Avail Twitter: https://twitter.com/AvailProject GUESTS Anurag Arjun, Founder: https://twitter.com/anuragarjun ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:10:2927/10/2023
MODULAR INTEROPERABILITY with Jon Kol of Hyperlane

MODULAR INTEROPERABILITY with Jon Kol of Hyperlane

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ Hyperlane is an interoperability protocol enabling permissionless connectivity between blockchains. Hyperlane is unique in that it provides a modular framework allowing developers to build interoperability solutions that fit the needs of their applications. Their recent v3 upgrade solves developer pain points, including the release of Hooks, which allows you to customize message routing. TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:20 Jon’s interest in interoperability 00:09:00 How are interoperability protocols competing? 00:14:05 What are modular blockchains? 00:19:15 Making modularity accessible and secure 00:22:55 Hot take: Decentralized shared sequencers are not real 00:29:22 Tradeoffs for optimizing Hyperlane 00:34:02 Hyperlane’s architecture 00:44:45 Difference between IBC and Hyperlane 00:48:10 Application layer interoperability 00:50:15 Role of validators and relayers 00:54:50 Security modules 00:56:25 Gas module 01:00:48 What’s new in Hyperlane V3 01:03:50 Who’s building on Hyperlane? 01:07:10 Who should be using Hyperlane? LINKS Hyperlane: https://www.hyperlane.xyz/ Hyperlane FAQs: https://docs.hyperlane.xyz/docs/introduction/readme Hyperlane Explorer: https://explorer.hyperlane.xyz/? GUESTS Jon Kol, CEO: https://twitter.com/thePalenimbus ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:13:4222/10/2023
DIVERSIFIED YIELDS with Valentin Pletnev of Quasar

DIVERSIFIED YIELDS with Valentin Pletnev of Quasar

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ This week I sat down with Valentin Pletnev, Founder of Quasar Finance, an Interchain yield aggregator. We discuss Quasar's concentrated liquidity and staking vaults, how Quasar works with Osmosis, vault creators that provide strategies, the tech under the hood of their product, and Cosmos DeFi. We also hear Valentin's take on why he thinks the growing amount of Cosmos chains is a bearish direction for the ecosystem. TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:15 Valentin's Background 00:07:53 Deploying Capital on Asset Management Platforms vs. Protocols 00:14:04 Liquidity Concentration and Community Governance 00:18:35 Early Yield Aggregation Products 00:22:46 Quasar and Sommelier Differences 00:27:52 How Quasar Vaults Work 00:37:35 Growing Amount of Cosmos Chains Makes Valentin Bearish 00:41:50 Osmosis Merging with the Cosmos Hub? 00:44:29 Flow of Transactions on Quasar 00:50:30 How Do Vault Creators Interact with Quasar? 00:55:09 How DLL Interacts with Quasar 00:58:10 Quasar Expansion Plans 01:02:23 User Risks for Using Quasar LINKS Quasar Finance: https://www.quasar.fi/ CL Vault Launch: https://www.quasar.fi/blog/quasar-vaults-for-concentrated-liquidity Quasar Rundown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpxN6Inoz3A Roadmap: https://www.quasar.fi/blog/the-quasar-roadmap GUEST Valentin Pletnev: https://twitter.com/valeyo777 ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:07:4116/10/2023
PERPETUAL SWAPS with Jonathan Caras of Levana

PERPETUAL SWAPS with Jonathan Caras of Levana

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ This week I sat down with Jonathan Caras, Head of Communications for Levana Protocol, a perpetual swap protocol deployed in the Cosmos ecosystem. We discuss the launch and future of Levana and dissected the ins-and-outs of DeFi yield, perpetual swap fees, and user strategies deployed on Levana. We also break down aspects of Levana's white paper, and discuss Jonathan's take on how the appchain thesis has failed. TOPICS 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:20 Jonathan's background 00:05:48 Best Non-Finance User Products 00:12:15 Why has the Appchain Thesis Failed? 00:17:16 Sovereignty as an Appchain 00:24:00 Levana Background and Deployment 00:26:38 What is Real Yield? 00:31:52 What is a Perpetual Swap? 00:38:50 Perpetual Swap Fees 00:44:44 Levana Users, Use Cases, & Strategies 00:52:00 How is Levana well-funded? 00:59:11 Insolvency Protection & Mark Price 01:03:01 Future of Levana LINKS Levana: https://levana.finance Levana Roadmap: https://blog.levana.finance/levana-is-headed-for-the-skies-check-out-our-roadmap-ad1f1328cb98 GUEST Jonathan Caras: https://x.com/madcapslaugh ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:09:1329/09/2023
THE STAKING ECONOMY with Brian Crain of Chorus One & ICF

THE STAKING ECONOMY with Brian Crain of Chorus One & ICF

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures Brian Crain of Chorus One talks about his role in the Cosmos ecosystem as an early team member at Tendermint and his work structuring the ATOM token sale. He also discusses the staking economy, interoperability, and liquid staking, reflecting on the centralization-decentralization tension in these areas. He also talks about the Interchain Foundation's (ICF) role and how the organization can better steward the broader Interchain ecosystem. Brian Crain is CEO of Chorus One, President of the Interchain Foundation Council, and Host of the Epicenter podcast. ------------------------------------ LINKS - Unbundling PBS: Towards protocol-enforced proposer commitments (PEPC): https://ethresear.ch/t/unbundling-pbs-towards-protocol-enforced-proposer-commitments-pepc/13879 - MEV Matters: Decoding Chorus One’s winning MEV strategy: https://chorus.one/articles/mev-matters-decoding-chorus-ones-winning-mev-strategy - Obsidian: https://obsidian.md - Building a Second Brain: https://www.buildingasecondbrain.com GUESTS Brian Crain: https://x.com/crainbf ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:19:4114/09/2023
BLOCK SDK with Maghnus Mareneck of Skip

BLOCK SDK with Maghnus Mareneck of Skip

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ TOPICS GUESTS ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:09:0707/09/2023
PEER-TO-PEER RPC with Yair Cleper of Lava Network

PEER-TO-PEER RPC with Yair Cleper of Lava Network

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ TOPICS GUESTS ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:06:5425/08/2023
ZK VERIFIABLE APPS with Butian Li of Blockless

ZK VERIFIABLE APPS with Butian Li of Blockless

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ TOPICS GUESTS ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
58:4825/08/2023
MOVE VM with Rushi Manche of Movement Labs

MOVE VM with Rushi Manche of Movement Labs

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ TOPICS GUESTS ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
57:1204/08/2023
CUSTOMIZABLE ROLLUPS with Neel Somani of Eclipse

CUSTOMIZABLE ROLLUPS with Neel Somani of Eclipse

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ TOPICS GUESTS ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:08:2707/07/2023
IBC EVERYWHERE with Bo Du of Polymer Labs

IBC EVERYWHERE with Bo Du of Polymer Labs

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ TOPICS GUESTS ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:03:1627/06/2023
NEUTRON MAINNET with Spaydh

NEUTRON MAINNET with Spaydh

Consider staking with Interop Ventures https://interop.ventures ------------------------------------ TOPICS GUESTS ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: https://twitter.com/seb3point0 The Interop: https://twitter.com/TheInterop
01:11:1920/06/2023