Pano Kanelos is the founding president of the University of Austin. Prior to that, Pano was the president of St. John’s College. In this episode you can expect to hear about the importance of the Great Books and reading the classics, whether the college system has a monopoly on people’s ability to prepare themselves for the real world, the definition of human flourishing and how one should think about that in designing an education, and the development of and vision for the University of Austin. This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company https://www.johngaltmortgage.com Chapters: 0:00 - Pano Kanelos 5:55 - The Value of the Great Books 16:06 - The Importance of "Real" Education 29:51 - Reimagining Education for a Modern World 41:20 - Traditional Education and Phases of Learning 46:21 - Sponsor: John Galt Mortgage Company 49:50 - Purpose of Higher Education and Alternatives 57:57 - The Value of Universities in Knowledge Production 1:00:44 - The Ideal University 1:08:10 - Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy in Education 1:17:31 - The Purpose of Education 1:24:55 - The University of Austin's Education Vision 1:26:50 - Founding the University of Austin 1:41:45 - The Vision for a New Kind of University 1:50:00 - Reimagining College Curriculum and Majors 2:00:45 - Why Austin was Chosen for the University If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Connect with Pano Kanelos: https://www.uaustin.org Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Dr. Naomi Fisher is a clinical psychologist and education expert. She is the author of two incredible books, Changing Our Minds and A Different Way to Learn. In this episode, you’ll learn about the effects of the current education system on children's mental health and how psychological issues later in life may have been set in motion by the traditional education system. You’ll also hear about Naomi’s personal experiences relocating due to education purposes for her children, the damaging effects of academic pressure, and the direct connections between psychology and education. 00:00 - Dr. Naomi Fisher 09:37 - Moving for Education Reasons 16:18 - The Connection Between Education and Parenting 26:40 - Impact and Perception of Schooling 36:56 - Reevaluating Education Outcomes and Priorities 41:39 - The Negative Impact of Mandatory Learning 47:47 - Corrosive Effects of Ranking in Education 52:58 - Education and Mental Health Disconnect 1:04:07 - Mental Health's Impact on Education 1:07:57 - Impact of Schooling on Life Purpose 1:20:20 - Schooling, Social Media, Teenagers, Mental Health 1:26:49 - The Damaging Effects of Academic Pressure 1:36:16 - Impact of Hierarchical Relationships on Mental Health If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Connect with Dr. Naomi Fisher: Twitter | https://twitter.com/naomicfisher Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/drnaomifisher/ Website | https://www.naomifisher.co.uk Substack | https://substack.com/@naomicfisher Books | Changing Our Minds A Different Way to Learn Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Craig Biddle is an objectivist philosopher and founder of The Objective Standard and Objective Standard Institute. He also hosts a yearly Level Up Conference In this episode you’ll hear philosophical arguments around critical thinking & objectivity, The concept of “privilege”, why education is not a human right, and why pursuing happiness is the moral thing to do. Chapters: 0:00 - Craig Biddle 7:00 - The Integration of Philosophy and Self-Development 8:50 - How is living a good life moral? 20:20 - The Concept of Human Flourishing 28:55 - Critical Thinking & Objectivity 36:27 - Why Our Education is Bad at Teaching Kids How TotoThink 46:30 - Helping Kids Cultivate a Firm Connection with Reality 55:00 - “Privilege” in the Education System 1:07:20 - Education as a Service 1:26:00 - Promoting Philosophy for Youth 1:28:50 - The Level Up Conference If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Connect with Craig Biddle: Objective Standard Institute The Objective Standard Level Up Conference Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Kelly Smith is the founder of Prenda, one of the largest networks of microschools in the country. In this episode, you’ll learn about Kelly’s unique path going from studying nuclear fusion at MIT to spearheading a massive network of microschools around the country. You’ll hear opinions on the optimal standardization, size and environment for microschools, the landscape of education post pandemic, and practical lessons that can help kids thrive in today’s world. Chapters 0:00 - Kelly Smith 3:20 - What is Prenda and what is a Microschool? 12:20 - Creating Cohesion in the Alternative Education Space 20:20 - Where does Prenda Fit in the Landscape of Alternative Education 23:01 - What Does it Take to Run a Good Microschool? 26:20 - How to Inspire Kids to Follow Their Passion 32:30 - How Entrepreneurship Shapes Kelly’s Perspective on Education 46:05 - How to Prepare Kids for the World 57:30 - Who are the Typical Microschool Founders? 1:10:10 - Standardization, Size, and Age Within Microschools 1:18:50 - Unschooling to Prepare For Microschool 1:26:20 - Building an Environment Where it’s Okay to Be Wrong 1:33:30 - The Landscape of Education Post Pandemic 1:37:50 - Lessons and Wisdom for Kids 1:41:46 - How to Get Involved with Prenda If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Connect with Kelly Smith: Website | https://prenda.com/about Book | A Fire to Be Kindled - Kelly Smith Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Graham Frey has made a lifelong commitment to helping young people to grow and succeed. Graham currently serves as the CEO of Hallcraft School Studio and the past six years, was CEO of Alpha, an innovative network of K-12 schools based in Austin, Texas. In this episode you’ll learn about the biggest problems in the education system, the implications of technology in education and how to go about choosing the right school for your children. You can also expect to learn about the idea of free-range parenting, cultivating a healthy relationship with risk, and building resilience and preparedness in children. Chapters: 0:00 - Graham Frey 3:50 - Graham’s Background in Education 15:00 - The Biggest Problems in the Education System 20:55 - Implications of Technology in Education 33:27 - The Benefits of Adaptive Technology in Education 39:15 - What Makes a Good School 52:30 - Being intentional When Choosing Schools 59:10 - Free Range Parenting 1:06:15 - Cultivating a Healthy Relationship with Risk 1:17:02 - Building Resilience and Preparedness in Children 1:28:17 - Starting Non-Traditional Schools and Reimagining Education 1:33:10 - How to Connect with Graham and the Work He is Doing If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Resources Mentioned in this Episode: The Shame American Education - B.F. Skinner Breaking Smart - Venkatesh Rao Connect with Graham Frey Website | hallcraftschools.com Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Jimmy Soni is an award-winning author. His latest book, THE FOUNDERS: The Story of PayPal and the Entrepreneurs Who Shaped Silicon Valley, was a debut best-seller and has earned praise from the Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The New Yorker, and The Economist. Expect to hear Jimmy’s opinions on cancel culture, how learning and writing has changed in the age of social media, the significance of cultivating discipline and accountability as a creator, and Jimmy’s experience starting a Pod school for his daughter in New York City during the pandemic and how it changed his perspective on the education system as a whole. You can find links to all of Jimmy’s books below. Chapters: 00:00 - Jimmy Soni 02:15 - Cancel Culture's Impact on Public Figures and Authors 07:25 - The Downstream Effects of Cancellation 17:21 - Impact of Social Media on Books and the Writing Process 27:39 - Shifts in Learning and Accessibility in the Information Age 35:16 - Documenting Memories for Learning and Growth 38:25 - Project-Based Learning and Parenting 44:34 - Teaching Creativity and Entrepreneurship to Kids 49:03 - Encouraging Children to Read 55:34 - Starting a Pod School During Pandemic 01:06:32 - The Benefits of Pod School Education 01:11:40 - Autonomy and Flexibility in Education 01:19:20 - Unconventional Education Methods and Self-Directed Learning 01:26:15 - Exploring the Spectrum of Education 01:38:25 - Balancing Passion, Practicality, and Discipline for Writers and Creators 01:50:47 - Planning a Future Conversation or Event If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Wanting - Luke Burgess Connect with Jimmy Soni: Website | jimmysoni.com Twitter | @jimmyasoni Jimmy’s Books: The Founders Jane’s Carousel A Mind at Play Rome’s Last Citizen Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

This week I’m speaking with Ryan Delk. Ryan is the founder of Primer, a network of microschools being built across the country. In this episode, we talk about Ryan’s personal education experience and how it shaped and impacted the way he thinks about the schools he is building. We talk about what makes a good microschool and the most important things to be thinking about when developing schools and educational experiences for kids. We also explore Primer’s project-based approach for educating kids through skill-building, emotional intelligence, self esteem, and self efficacy. Finally, we dive into what is involved in building a network of microschools, the regulations that have made it difficult to create alternative education, and what the future of education in a world full of microschools might look like. Chapters: 0:00 - Ryan Delk 3:00 - What is Primer? 9:30 - Ryan’s Homeschool Experience 14:50 - How to Give Kids Agency in Their Education 21:10 - Homeschooling vs. Microschooling 24:30 - How to Make Alternative Education Accessible 37:30 - Streamlining the Path for Microschools 42:00 - Finding Balance Between Structure and Agency 44:30 - Using Technology in Alternative Education 56:30 - What Do Primer Education Classrooms Look Like? 1:01:10 - The Long-Term Vision for Primer 1:03:50 - Why is America’s Education Failing? 1:08:20 - Redefining the Incentive Structures for Education 1:16:45 - How to Connect with Ryan and Primer If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Connect with Ryan Delk: Email | [email protected] Website | primer.com Twitter | @delk Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived

This week I’m speaking with Sky King. Sky is a podcast consultant who has worked with some of the biggest names in podcasting such as Chris Williamson, Aubrey Marcus, and many more. Sky was extremely helpful in the process of launching this show and is a deeply studied student in the art of advertising, marketing, and podcasting. In this episode we explore the ever-evolving media landscape, with an emphasis on podcasting and its increasing significance in a world bombarded with superficial news content. We discuss the history of advertising and marketing, the biggest campaigns that have worked throughout the years, and how advertising has changed over the years. We also dive into Sky’s story; How he connected with the likes of Ryan Holiday and Aubrey Marcus, and why he chose to leave his comfortable job in the pharmaceutical industry to go make smoothies at Onnit. Sky shares his thoughts on AI, examining the 'walled garden' concept and its influence on our interaction with technology. We explore the role of institutions in our lives, and the moral dilemma of fighting entropy. We also dive in to the evolution of the podcasting space and how video content is blurring the lines of what a podcast really is. Chapters: 0:00 - Sky King 0:30 - Sky’s morning routine 4:30 - Sky’s journey in advertising and why he became interested in podcasts 14:30 - The Impact of News and Social Media 20:00 - How Sky got involved in the podcast world 29:00 - Positioning and Brand Strategies 31:00 - Building a successful podast 38:06 - Is podcasting dead? 43:30 - The evolving landscape of podcasting 45:50 - Advertising and Media Influence 55:53 - The Walled Garden Concept 1:00:30 - Finding an Entrepreneurial Niche 1:18:00 - Bridging the Gap and Meeting Influential People 1:30:30 - Fostering Presence 1:35:00 - The Power of Surfing If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Tim Ferris Adam Robinson Episode The Brass Check - Upton Sinclair Conspiracy - Ryan Holiday Purple Cow - Seth Goden Propoganda - Edward Bernays Connect with Sky King: Twitter | @consumersky Instagram | @iamaskyking Podcast | Sky King’s Mental Playground Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Today I’m speaking with Kerry McDonald. Kerry is a fellow at the Foundation for Economic Education, a writer for Forbes and The 74, host of the LiberatED Podcast, and author of Unschooled. Kerry is one of the most well versed people I know when it comes to what is happening in the alternative education movement. In this episode, we talk about the history of education in America, the inception of the public school system, and how we slowly forgot that we knew how to educate ourselves. We also talk about the rise of the homeschooling/micro-schooling movement and the momentum we are seeing in alternative education since the pandemic, exploring the different types and micro-schools, how they are funded, and how the school-choice movement is propelling change in the education system. Kerry is doing incrediblly important work in the education space and provides a compelling and enlightening viewpoint on the future of learning in a landscape of educational freedom. Chapters: 0:00 - Kerry McDonald 6:00 - How Entrepreneurs are driving the engine of change in education 8:00 - Why is it so hard to innovate in the education space from a legal standpoint? 15:40 - How did public school become mandatory? 22:30 - How the sentiments in the public have changed surrounding education 27:00 - Roadblocks that arise when starting a micro-school 33:30 - Are micro-school regulations side-effects or purposefully implemented 39:00 - Does a lack of regulation lead to poor educational outcomes? 52:00 - What does the ideal education landscape look like? 57:30 - What exactly is a micro-school? What makes it different? 1:07:30 - Are micro-schools and alternative education models available for low income families? 1:14:00 - What cultural narratives need to be changed to continue the momentum of school-choice 1:22:00 - Financial resources for parents looking to pull their kids from public school 1:25:00 - How to connect with Kerry If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Engaged Detroit Connect with Guest: Podcast | liberatedpodcast.com Twitter | @kerry_edu Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

In this episode I’m speaking with Isaac Morehouse, the founder of Praxis. Praxis is a year-long startup apprenticeship program that helps young people land jobs to give them real-world business experience. Isaac is a rebellious advocate for bucking the system in all areas of live. In this episode, we talk about Isaac’s personal homeschooling experience, the way he chooses to educate his own children, the myths around homeschooling, whether or not alternative education is only for the privileged, what he learned working with start-up founders and entrepreneurs, and what it truly means to be successful in the world. We also talk about why it’s important for entrepreneurial young people to learn things like philosophy, history and economics to land positions in the workforce, how to cultivate work ethic and curiosity in your kids, and what it means to live a life on you own terms. Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 8:14 - Recent pushback on the Hannah Frankman Podcast 12:30 - Doing what you can with what you have 21:15 - Changes Isaac has seen in the education landscape 32:30 - A shift in understanding of how to approach education 42:30 - How to use your values to determine your choices 53:00 - How Isaac makes decisions regarding the education of his kids 57:00 - Isaac’s homeschooling experience 1:03:0 - How Isaac’s education cultivated a strong work ethic 1:11:30 - How Isaac became an entrepreneurial thinker 1:17:30 - The genesis of Praxis 1:34:30 - How Isaac chose to build the Praxis curriculum 1:45:00 - How to cultivate curiosity in yourself and your children 1:55:30 - How to connect with Isaac If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Connect with Isaac Morehouse: Website | isaacmorehouse.com Twitter | @isaacmorehouse Email | [email protected] Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

This week we have Ste Lane on the podcast. Ste is a holistic health coach and the host of Radical Health Radio. Ste reached out to have me on his podcast about the relationship between the intersection of alternative education and alternative health, and I knew he needed to be a guest on my show. In this episode, we discuss how to raise whole humans who can thrive rather than just survive in the world. We dive into Ste’s own journey in traditional education, how he shook things up in early adulthood, and how that changed his view of the world. We also talk about his journey as a holistic health coach and the patterns he has seen in clients who struggle due to the way they were educated. Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 4:40 - The genesis of Ste’s podcast, Radical Health Radio 9:30 - Ste’s arrival into the holistic health space 18:00 - Understanding individual needs in all aspects of life and always remaining curious 27:30 - Navigating the discomfort of stepping off the conventional path 32:00 - How travel changed Ste’s values and mindset about life 41:00 - How Hannah’s childhood experience fostered her view of the world 48:00 - How to encourage people that anything is possible and release their fear of death 57:30 - How Ste thinks about setting his children up for success 1:05:00 - Why our education system is not serving our kids and how to foster a better ecosystem 1:10:30 - How to interface with our natural world in a more effective way 1:20:00 - Distinctions between the way cultures raise their children 1:29:00 - Helping people tell themselves a new story 1:36:45 - How to connect with Ste and his podcast If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Connect with Ste Lane: Instagram | @peakprimalhealth Website | peakprimalhealth.com Youtube | Radical Health Radio Podcast | Radical Health Radio Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Tim Chermak is a marketing consultant, author, and speaker. He is the CEO of ⁠Platform, a digital marketing agency and software company that specializes in working with ambitious real estate agents. In today’s episode, we talk about Tim’s education, his experience hiring unconventionally educated people, and what he’s actually looking for when hiring talent. We also talk about entrepreneurship, Tim’s experience growing his business, and how to cultivate entrepreneurship tendencies. Tim is one of the most well-read and self-educated people I know and I was so excited to have him on the show. Chapters: 0:00 - Tim Chermak 02:00 - Why is education not synonymous with schooling? 19:00 - Why entrepreneurship is such a powerful form of education 30:00 - The power of perspective and understanding context dependency 37:30 - Encouraging and incentivizing people to learn things they are actually interested in 48:30 - Emphasizing curiosity and fostering a love for learning 53:30 - Why do we teach useless information in schools? 59:30 - Should there be a base level of understanding in primary education? 1:05:00 - Why Tim makes his hiring decisions based on initiative rather than education 1:13:30 - Is there any difference working with those who have not been traditionally educated? 1:22:00 - Tim’s experience hiring high school students 1:27:00 - What skills should high school students focus on to get hired 1:38:00 - The importance of and applications of entrepreneurial thinking 1:47:00 - Where did Tim pick up his entrepreneurial mindset 1:53:00 - The most influential books that Tim has ever read. 1:59:30 - How to connect with Tim If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Resources Mentioned in this Episode: The Four Hour Work Week - Tim Ferris The E Myth - Michael E. Gerber Straight Line Leadership - Dusan Djukich Made in America - Sam Walton Grinding it Out - Ray Kroc Walt Disney: An American Original - Bob Thomas Titan - Ron Chernow Snowball - Alice Schroeder Connect with Tim Chermak Facebook | Tim Chermak johngualtmortgage.com Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Michael Ellsberg is the author of The Education of Millionaires and The Last Safe Investment. As a writer, Michael is in a field that is quickly being subsumed by Artificial Intelligence and Michael has devoted a lot of his time thinking and writing about the implications of AI in the career and education landscapes. In this episode, we dive into some of the pressing questions around the future of AI; What jobs is AI going to take away? What skills should we be learning to remain competitive? Should AI be a part of the classroom? We discuss Michael’s opinions on college, his thoughts on critical thinking and his critiques on higher education’s lag in adopting technology and trends. Michael also shares his favorite generative AI tools and gives practical advice on how we can use AI to enhance our productivity and sharpen our thinking Chapters: 0:00 - Michael Ellsberg 4:30 - The genesis of Michael’s books 12:00 - Viewing yourself as the asset 15:30 - What are superskills? 17:00 - AI in the education space 24:00 - AI is changing copywriting 30:00 - What is the benefit of learning how to write with these tools at our disposal? 44:00 - How does the AI revolution compare to the biggest changes in history 57:30 - The future implications of AI in the field 1:07:00 - The future of AI in education 1:23:30 - What are the fundamental skills to obtain in the age of artificial intelligence 1:43:00 - Is learning to write still important? 1:47:00 - Using AI to sharpen your thinking 1:50:30 - What is critical thinking? 1:59:30 - Why does education take so long to catch up with technology and trends If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Resources Mentioned in this Episode: The Last Safe Investment The Education of Millionaires claude.ai Death of an Author - Aidan Marchine The Box - Marc Levinson What is it Like to Be a Bat? Breaking Smart - Venkatesh Rao Connect with Michael Ellsberg: Website | ellsberg.com Twitter | @MichaelEllsberg Facebook | Michael Ellsberg Books | The Last Safe Investment The Education of Millionaires Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Today I’m talking to Audrey Wisch. Audrey was a traditionally educated, classic straight-A student who eventually got into Stanford for her undergrad education. During covid, she started Curious Cardinals, a “side-hustle” that quickly turned into a full fledged education business that led her to dropping out of college. In this episode we talk about how she has built her business, how she thinks about providing mentorship and education to K-12 students, education in the digital age, her experiences at Stanford compared to her experiences with entrepreneurship and her overall perspective on how the education system has changed. Audrey brings so much energy and enthusiasm to this conversation and provides so much hope for the potential improvement of K-12 education in the years to come. Chapters:  0:00 - Audrey Wisch 6:30 - Audrey’s education experience 11:30 - Audrey’s experience at Stanford 16:00 - The genesis of Audrey’s start-up, Curious Cardinals 23:20 - Audrey’s personal experience with mentors 35:00 - Encouraging fire and curiosity in students 44:00 - The 3 tracks for learning in Curious Cardinals 49:00 - Audrey’s views on unschooling 56:00 - The difference between traditional and homeschooled students in Curious Cardinals 1:00:00 - How Audrey’s perception of education has changed 1:05:30 - Education in the digital age 1:13:00 - The value of college vs. learning through entrepreneurship 1:22:20 - The vision for Curious Cardinals 1:24:40 - The ideal fit for Curious Cardinals If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Connect with Audrey Wisch & Curious Cardinals: website | curiouscardinals.com instagram | @curiouscardinals Linkedin | linkedin.com/company/curiouscardinals/ Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow Along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

This week, I am speaking with Matt Bateman, a philosopher in residence and co-founder of Higher Ground Montessori, one of the largest networks of Montessori schools in the world. Matt was a former philosophy professor at universities, an expert in early childhood development, and has been working in the Montessori world for years. In this episode, we discuss the Montessori approach, its origins, and how it fits into the landscape of alternative education. We delve into the history of education, from the styles of the ancient Greeks to modern-day approaches. We also explore ways to motivate children and create environments that encourage learning, creativity, and growth. Additionally, we examine more controversial subjects, like how the culture wars intersect with education and whether homeschooling and unschooling are effective methods. Finally, we discuss how much structure is appropriate to provide for a child's educational journey. Chapters: 0:00 - Matt Bateman 1:00 - The psychology of home office set up 5:00 - The values of Montessori Schools 7:00 - Why Matt chose to get involved in Montessori schools 12:00 - Why do these schools work better than traditional education? 16:00 - What is Montessori? 27:30 - Is education still in its infancy? 33:30 - What is progressive education and how does Montessori fit in? 36:00 - Who was Maria Montessori? 41:40 - Why was education such a hot topic around the turn of the century? 45:00 - What are the most high impact areas to be innovating in education? 47:30 - Education in the age of the internet 54:00 - Advice for parents beginning their homeschooling journey 1:04:00 - What is unschooling? What are the pros and cons? 1:09:00 - The relationship between intrinsic and extrinsic motivation in children 1:20:00 - What is the relationship between culture and education? 1:39:30 - How to connect with Matt and the work he is doing If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Resources Mentioned in this Episode: In Search For Deeper Learning - Jal Mehta & Sarah Fine Connect with Matt Bateman: website | guidepostmontesorri.com website | montesorrium.com twitter | @mbateman twitter | @montessorium twitter | @guidepostschools Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Today I’m speaking with Henrik Karlsson. Henrik is an essayist and the author of the popular Substack Escaping Flatland. In this episode, we talk about a couple of his essays surrounding education; about the phenomenon of popular education in Sweden, why it has worked, and what similar structures we have in the US. We also discuss his piece on the childhoods of exceptional people; the common traits many influential figures of history shared and how we can model these behaviors when it comes to raising and educating our kids. We also talk about the power of the internet, how it has changed the educational landscape and become a “modern day republic of letters” and how it can help us become life-long learners. Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 2:00 - How Henrik’s children inspire his work 3:30 - The homeschooling landscape in Europe 11:00 - How Henrik is designing the ideal education for his kids and how that might evolve 18:30 - Henrik’s education background 21:00 - The culture of popular education in Sweden 27:00 - Why “social circles” appeared in Sweden and not elsewhere 37:00 - Equivalent or similar structures in the US 50:50 - Why is the interest in these social circles waning and the place for social media? 55:00 - Group learning vs. individual learning and the process of reinventing yourself 1:07:00 - Are we over-socializing kids 1:15:00 - The value of boredom and entertaining yourself 1:20:00 - Developing a growth mindset and continuing to learn as an adult 1:28:00 - The power of the digital age and platforms like Substack 1:35:00 - The possibility of choosing your own path to mastery and success in the digital age 1:39:00 - How to connect with Henrik’s work If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Connect with Henrik Karlsson Substack | Escaping Flatland Twitter | @phokarlsson Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Jennifer Sey is an American author, filmmaker, business executive and retired artistic gymnast. She was the 1986 USA Gymnastics National Champion, and a 7-time member of the U.S. Women’s National Team. Sey’s first memoir, "Chalked Up," was released in 2008 and detailed the coaching cruelty inflicted on children in the sport of gymnastics. She also produced the 2020 Emmy award-winning documentary film, "Athlete A," which connected the crimes of Larry Nassar to broader abuses in the Olympic movement. Sey began working at Levi Strauss & Co. in 1999, rising to Chief Marketing Officer and then Global Brand President. In January 2022, she was asked to resign because of her public opposition to the extended closure of San Francisco’s public schools. Her most recent memoir, “Levi’s Unbuttoned,” tells the inspirational story of her corporate career, search for authenticity, and ultimate refusal to bow to the woke mob. In this episode, we talk about Jennifer’s history of speaking out against injustices even when the world wasn't ready to hear it; from the toxic environment of the gymnastics community to the effect of the Covid lockdown on kids. We explore the value of speaking your truth and standing by your values despite what the "consequences" might be. We also talk about Jennifer’s views on public education, how she is raising her children to be independent thinkers, and an exciting film she is currently working on. Chapters 0:00 - Jennifer Sey 3:00 - How Jennifer became involved in education 8:30 - The negative effects that Covid had on public education 19:00 - Why it’s important to stand with your values 32:30 - Why Jennifer decided to stand by her word despite risks of losing her job 36:30 - Jennifer’s history as a gymnast and speaking out against the toxic culture of youth gymnastics 57:30 - Why Jennifer chose to send her kids to public school and her opinion on public schooling in general 1:04:30 - How have Jennifer’s experiences over the last few years changed the way she talks to and prepares her children for the future 1:11:00 - Encouraging your kids to be brave and think independently 1:13:30 - The genesis of Jennifer’s new documentary, Generation Covid If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Resources Zero Dropouts Films | Generation Covid & Athlete A Connect with Jennifer Sey Twitter | @jennifersey Website | seyeverything.com Substack | www.seyeverything.com/jennifer-sey#substack Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Michael Strong is one of the most experienced veterans of the alternative education movement. Michael has been building alternative schools for over 30 years. His projects include a public school program in which minority female students gained four years’ worth of critical thinking gains in four months (on the Watson-Glaser). He later went into Montessori secondary school program design at The Judson Montessori School (San Antonio), The Emerson School, and Hacienda School. He created The Winston Academy, where middle school students passed AP exams, making it the most academically advanced school in the country at the time. Most recently, Michael launched an online socratic school called The Socratic Experience. In this episode we dive into Michael’s passion for alternative schooling, how public education is a public health crisis, how to facilitate socratic environments that encourage kids to learn, the value of creating deliberate subcultures, and how we can raise happy, healthy, and thriving children. Chapters: 0:00 - Michael Strong 0:30 - The subculture of homeschooling 7:00 - Universal versus individual experiences in education 24:00 - Michael's background in alternative schools and education 27:30 - What is a Socratic school? 31:00 - The importance of holding onto tradition while keeping up with technology 36:30 - Differences between the Socratic approach and classical education 41:30 - How can parents facilitate Socratic conversations with their kids? 48:30 - How to encourage kids to think critically and independently 53:30 - Qualities of an effective Socratic leader 57:00 - Education models that Michael likes and dislikes 1:00:00 - What's wrong with standard education? 1:03:30 - Creating deliberate subcultures 1:12:00 - Elements of a good subculture 1:19:00 - Pros and cons of virtual education 1:24:30 - How technology and electronics can be used effectively and where it becomes a problem 1:39:00 - The most important things parents can integrate when designing an education for their kids If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Resources Mentioned in this Episode: How to Read a Book - Mortimer J. Adler How Mr. Beast Learns - Henrick Karlsson Seen Like a State - James Scott Breaking Smart - Venkatesh Rao Connect with Michael Strong: Website | https://socraticexperience.com/parent-guide-hannah-frankman/ Youtube | youtube.com/c/socraticmichaelstrong Twitter | @flowidealism Facebook | facebook.com/michael.strong.144/ Linkedin | www.linkedin.com/in/michaelstrong1 Medium | flowidealism.medium.com Substack | michaelstrong.substack.com Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Jonny Anomaly was previously a lecturer at Duke University and the head of the Politics, Philosophy, and Economics Department at the University of Pennsylvania before leaving academia for good. He is currently the Academic Director of the Center for Philosophy, Politics, & Economics in Quito, Ecuador. Most of his recent writing focuses on exploring the social implications of emerging reproductive technologies, particularly embryo selection for polygenic traits. In this episode, we discuss Jonny's experience with teaching training at Columbia and what he learned about the state of education training during his time there. We also address the current issues in universities, including the ideological takeover of the past decade and its effects on society at large. Additionally, we emphasize the importance of philosophy, rationality, and critical thinking, and explore ways to encourage the development of these traits. Chapters: 0:00 - Jonny Anomaly 2:30 - Jonny's experience in the field of education 6:30 - The structure of education, schooling, and teacher's college 10:30 - When Johnny realized he wanted to change careers 13:30 - The changing landscape of educational institutions 21:30 - How has the value of a college degree changed? Should students pursue a degree? 31:30 - How do we encourage children to become free thinkers? 39:30 - How much regulation should there be for homeschooling? 50:30 - Why could fewer men going to college be a problem for college in general? 56:00 - What are the best alternatives to college? 59:30 - The power of disagreement and challenging your beliefs 1:06:30 - Why it's so important to follow your interests and how it can help you stand out 1:12:00 - What are the gaps that emerge from being an intellectual on the Internet? 1:16:30 - How can we cultivate critical thinking? 1:21:10 - How to connect with Jonny If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Resources Mentioned in this Episode: The Case Against Education - Brian Caplin Darwin’s Dangerous Idea - Daniel C. Dennett The Mating Mind - Geoffrey Miller Connect with Jonny Anomaly: Website | https://jonathan-anomaly.com/ Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Michael Gibson is the cofounder of the venture capital fund 1517, which is devoted to backing dropouts and people who never stepped foot on a college campus. Before his academic apostasy, he was working towards a doctorate in philosophy at the University of Oxford. He has written on innovation and technology for MIT’s Technology Review, National Review, the Atlantic, and City Journal. In this episode, we talk about Michael’s experience backing young people with the 1517 Fund, the importance of following up and pursuing research on effective learning, how we can encourage kids to be concerned with the big problems in the world, and the impact of a philosophical mindset when it comes to innovation and creativity. Michael also shares the purpose behind his new book Paper Belt on Fire, a guide for the next generation of innovators who seek an alternative to the traditional path in higher education. Chapters: 0:00 - Michael Gibson 2:00 - How Michael supports and encourages students to take an alternative route 11:00 - Why is skipping college such a hard concept for many to understand, despite it’s track record of success 16:00 - How America has become less creative 23:00 - Why aren’t more people upset and doing something about the school system in the United States? 29:00 - Why don’t we follow up or pursue research on effective learning? 32:00 - The benefits of homeschooling 39:00 - Is college dead? Who should go to college? 47:30 - Has a path for success in certain fields become less clear over time? 52:00 - What are the big problems that we need to be solving for that Michael writes about in his new book 58:00 - How can we encourage kids to be concerned with the big problems in the world 1:05:00 - Is risk taking in our nature or is it something that can be cultivated? 1:09:00 - What is Michael looking for in investing 1:1430 - How much of an impact can philosophy have in innovation 1:20:30 - Is it important to encourage a liberal arts education? 1:27:00 - Have the arts lost their force? If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Resources Mentioned in this Episode: The Story of Cole Summers Paper Belt on Fire Connect with Michael Gibson: Twitter | @william_blake (https://twitter.com/william_blake/with_replies) 1517 | http://www.1517fund.com New Book | Paper Belt on Fire Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Welcome to the Hannah Frankman Podcast! This week we have my friend Razib Khan on the podcast. Razib is a geneticist, writer, and currently works at the biotech firm, ⁠Genrait⁠ as CXO. He has written for publications that include ⁠The New York Times⁠, ⁠City Journal⁠, ⁠India Today⁠, ⁠National Review⁠, ⁠Slate⁠, ⁠Unheard⁠, ⁠Quillette⁠, ⁠Nautilus⁠ & ⁠The Guardian⁠, on a broad range of topics. In this episode, Razib and I dive into the genetics of redheads. Are redheads genetic mutants?! Are redheads less pain-tolerant, more fiery tempered, going extinct?! Is there any scientific grounding to these statements? We also explore the cultural stereotypes and “side-effects” of red-heads and indicators that an individual might carry the redhead gene. Chapters: 0:00 - Razib Khan 3:00 - The gene structure of redheads 10:40 - Why do redheads have so many freckles? 14:00 - The benefits of lighter and darker skin 19:00 - The “categories” of gingers and how the genes are expressed in the body 27:00 - Where did the redhead “mutation” come from? 36:00 - What cultures and groups are known for having red hair? 46:30 - Are redheads going extinct? 51:50 - What are the stereotypes and "side effects" of being a redhead? 1:10:00 - Do redheads have a lower pain tolerance? 1:19:30 - Differences between recessive and additive traits 1:24:30 - Indicators that you might carry the redhead gene 1:28:40 - Is there any relationship between red hair and IQ? If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠ & ⁠Spotify⁠ Resources Mentioned in this Episode: ⁠Udmurts⁠ Connect with Razib Khan Website | ⁠https://www.razib.com/bio/wordpress/⁠ Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | ⁠@hannahfrankman⁠ Website | ⁠http://hannahfrankman.com⁠ Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Ed Latimore is a retired professional heavyweight boxer, writer, and speaker. Ed has written several books, including "Not Caring What Other People Think Is a Superpower," and “Sober Letters to My Drunken Self”. Ed is prolific on Twitter, has a degree in physics, and is a competitive chess player... a true Renaissance Man. In this episode, we talk about Ed’s recent journey into fatherhood, his upbringing in the Pittsburgh Public School System and the power of taking risks and learning from mistakes. We also dive into the current landscape of education, the value of school choice, and how we can better serve today’s students by inspiring a love for learning. Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 7:40 - How having a child changes your perspective on the world. 9:00 - How your actions influence others, even those you’ve never met. 12:00 - Nature vs. Nurture: How to overcome nature. 20:30 - Ed’s experience in Pittsburgh Public Schools and how it shaped his future. 33:00 - The benefits of school choice and the differences between public and private schools. 45:00 - What are the most effective ways to support kids in underserved neighborhoods? 50:00 - How do we inspire a love of learning in kids? 1:01:30 - How processing and consuming information has changed in the age of the internet. 1:13:00 - The power of letting yourself be wrong, learning from mistakes, and taking risks. 1:23:00 - Ed and Hannah’s experience being bullied as kids and how it shaped him. 1:29:00 - How Ed plans to support his son's education. If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Connect with Ed Latimore: Twitter | @EdLatimore Instagram | @edlatimore Website | https://edlatimore.com/ Youtube | https://www.youtube.com/@EdLatimore1 Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

David Perell is an educator, writer, and entrepreneur. He is the founder of the online writing school Write of Passage, where he teaches students to think, write, and communicate with clarity and impact. David is also the host of the North Star Podcast, where he interviews fascinating people and explores innovative ideas. Through his work, David has become a leading thinker on topics such as education, creativity, and the future of work. In this episode, we dive into what makes an effective online course, the dynamics behind curating incredible online experiences, and how he draws inspiration from visual artists and electronic music artists like Madeon and Porter Robinson to create his online education courses. David also shares his thoughts on digital branding, the future of learning, and the changes he hopes to see in K-12 education.  Chapters: 0:00 - David Perell 2:00 - What makes an effective online course, experience, or cohort? 14:30 - The operations and team dynamics behind curating incredible experiences 20:00 - How David draws inspirations from other artists 28:00 - The logic behind David’s branding 34:00 - Why is David invested in education and what is the future of learning? 44:00 - How to turn potential energy into kinetic energy 59:00 - What David hopes to see change in K-12 education If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Connect with David Perell Twitter | @david_perell Website | https://perell.com/ Connect with Hannah Frankman: Twitter | @hannahfrankman Website | http://hannahfrankman.com Follow along for onversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.