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Joe Lowry
Joe Lowry (@globallithium on X aka Twitter & IG) and known as "Mr Lithium" is a 30 plus year industry veteran and founder of the advisory firm Global Lithium LLC. Joe hosts the original lithium podcast featuring high level guests from the lithium chemicals industry, battery, cathode, and related areas. The Global Lithium Podcast remains the 'go to' offering in this space and has been downloaded in 181 countries.
Episode 150: Chris Berry & Listener Questions
Chris Berry (@cberry1 on Twitter) is the founder of Mountain House Partners, a Washington DC based advisory firm. He is also a sought after commentator on the lithium ion battery metals space.
Nothing said on the podcast should be considered investment advice. DYOR - do your own research.
Topics in this episode:
The biggest lithium surprise of 2022
Price – where to from here?
The Inflation Reduction Act
Supply and demand
Canada, Argentina, and Brazil
Redwood Materials recent announcement
Recycling “black mass” at scale
DLE – when will it have an impact on supply?
Lepidolite – how much? how soon? quality?
An “essential question” for Chris from Simon Moores
The “Dragon Armor” LFP battery
Sodium Ion – much ado about nothing?
Battery pack size trends
The “paradox of green growth”
China – where to from here?
Does a “green premium” exist?
Lithium company valuations
Rapid fire
01:16:1317/12/2022
Episode 149: Peter Oliver
Peter Oliver has been one of the most influential people in the lithium industry over the past two decades. He spent 18 years at Talison – 12 years as CEO/Managing Director and later was a Non-Executive Director.
Peter guided Talison through the acquisition by Tianqi Lithium in 2013 and then served as an advisor to Tianqi when they sold 49% of Talison to Rockwood (now Albemarle) and later acquired 24% of SQM. He was a founding director of Tianqi Lithium Australia, a wholly owned subsidiary of Tianqi that was established to build the first hydroxide conversion facility in Australia. Peter remained a director until June 2021.
Few have the breadth of experience and understanding of the global lithium markets. Peter has recently returned to the lithium world as a Non-Executive Director of Latin Resources.
Topics:
The history of Greenbushes and the transition from tantalum producer to dominant hard rock lithium mine.
The lithium industry before the lithium ion battery
China’s rise as a lithium chemical converter based on Greenbushes spodumene.
Competing with brine based lithium in China
Lithium industry structure and why it needs to evolve to supply the energy transition
The reason China continues to lead the world in lithium chemicals production
Lithium geopolitics
Developing talent
Lepidolite – why development has been limited and its potential in the future
Staying under the radar
Coming back to the industry / joining the Latin Resources board
The lithium opportunity in Brazil
Price
Rapid fire
46:0226/11/2022
Episode 148: Cam Henry & John Young
John Young is the Non-Executive Chairman of Green Technology Metals (ASX: GT1) and a Co-Founder of leading lithium producer Pilbara Minerals. Cam Henry is the Founder and CEO of Primero, an EPC company that serves many industries but stands alone as the leading company serving the hard rock lithium space. He is also a Non-Executive Director of Green Technology Metals.
In this episode we cover the current state of the hard rock universe from what is happening in Western Australia to developments in Canada, Brazil, and Africa.
After a macro discussion of the hard rock world we get into specifics of what attracted these two Aussie lithium pioneers to get involved with Green Technology Metals and why developing lithium in Canada will be critical to the future of battery supply chain development in North America and the EU.
We also discuss the GT1 partnership with Lithium Americas and why that is important to the future development of the company.
Towards the end of the podcast, Cam turns the tables and asks me some questions. We end with rapid fire.
01:01:3219/11/2022
Episode 147: JP Vargas
JP Vargas is the Managing Director of Galan Lithium
Topics:
Galan's Hombre Muerto West resource in Argentina
Permitting
The chloride strategy
The Team
The most significant project challenges
Relationship with the Catamarca Government
Rapid Fire
37:1510/11/2022
Episode 146: Lithium & Travel Update - Chile, Reno, Camino & Oz
This is a short episode with a focus on my recent trip to Chile as well as my time on the Camino in Portugal & Spain, a short visit to Reno and upcoming trip to Australia.
If you want to skip the brief comments on the Camino trek I recently completed, fast forward to minute three:
Mentions: Summit Nanotech, SQM, Albemarle, LAC, CORFO, Daniel Jimenez & iLi Markets
23:2230/10/2022
Episode 145: Henry Sanderson
Henry Sanderson (@hjesanderson on Twitter) is an author and executive editor at Benchmark Mineral Intelligence. He was previously with the Financial Times. His recently published book Volt Rush is a must reader for anyone interested in EVs, critical metals and the energy transition.
Topics:
Henry’s reason for writing Volt Rush
The rags to riches stories of Chinese “clean energy barons” now billionaires
Avoiding the "oligarch syndrome"
What Xi Jinping wants
Jack Ma becomes a verb
A Wuling vs a Tesla - is EV penetration a meaningful metric?
EVs: “democratized” in China but not in the west?
The challenge of developing “China free” supply chains
Messy geopolitics
The Inflation Reduction Act
Do US OEMs have the right EV strategy?
The resurgence of LFP
Western Australia’s growing lithium influence
China’s raw material vulnerability
Africa’s future role in critical metals
The changing lithium landscape in South America
The future of China’s domestic lithium resources
Lithium in the UK?
Who are the “losers” in the race to go green?
Rapid fire
01:08:5517/09/2022
Episode 144: Austin Devaney
Austin Devaney (AustinDevaney on Twitter) is the Chief Commercial Officer at Piedmont Lithium and a former executive at Albemarle
Topics:
Austin’s early days in the lithium world
How customer needs have evolved
Lithium quality requirements for EVs
SQM’s curious & value destroying “20% price decrease letter” from several years ago
Why high prices aren’t able to quickly fix high prices in the lithium space
The legacy of late lithium projects
Shout out to Eric Norris
OEMs – slow to understand lithium
The Inflation Reduction Act
What Elon Musk doesn’t understand about the lithium industry
Lithium in North Carolina: “Back to the Future”
Piedmont’s permitting issues
Brine vs hard rock
Lepidolite – the new high cost umbrella?
Why prices will stay high for years
Rapid Fire
01:04:5110/09/2022
Episode 143: Listener Questions
In this episode I briefly speak about why I believe the "Big Banks" have, for the most part, gotten their recent price forecasts wrong.
The rest of the episode is answering listener questions:
Topics:
The Inflation Reduction Act
Permitting
DOE Loan Program
DLE
Canada's future in lithium
The EU vs North America in battery supply chain development
Companies mentioned: SQM, Albemarle, Ganfeng, Tianqi, Lithium Americas, Pilbara Minerals, Mineral Resources, Rio Tinto, Green Technology Metals, Tesla, Galan Lithium, Livent, Allkem, Wesfarmers, Frontier, Critical Elements, E3 and several more
57:3628/08/2022
Episode 142 Anand Sheth & Roland Chavasse
I interview the co-founders of the International Lithium Association (ILiA). Anand, known as “The Lithium Raj,” has deep lithium experience. Roland has experience running other major industry associations.
We start off discussing Anand’s experience as a lithium pioneer marketing spodumene from Australia (Greenbushes) before discussing the International Lithium Association’s reason for being.
Follow them on Twitter: @ILiA_lithium & Linked In
The ILiA website: https://lithium.org/
Topics:
The early days & growth of the lithium market in China
Building relationships & negotiating in China
The early days of Tianqi & Ganfeng.
The transition from spodumene use in glass & ceramics to chemical conversion
How China competed with low cost brine imports from South America
China’s rise in battery
Moving from Talison to Galaxy & later Pilbara Minerals
The thinking behind the creation of the International Lithium Association
Attracting the major lithium players as members
The Association’s areas of focus and challenges
Serving members & the general public
What does ILiA look like in 2027?
Rapid fire with the first "do over" in GLP history
01:12:1618/08/2022
Episode 141: Ken Brinsden
As CEO of Pilbara Minerals for over six and a half years Ken Brinsden (@KenBPilbara on Twitter) had a long list of accomplishments. We discuss the past, present, and future in this episode.
Topics:
Lithium: unreasonable expectations on an immature industry
The new price paradigm
The creation and future of the Battery Metals Exchange (BMX)
“Rearranging” margins in the supply chain
End user naivete
The significance of the Altura acquisition
The importance of the team
Newcomers with mid-stream production aspirations
Innovation in mining is inevitable
Why the future for Pilbara isn’t spodumene
Staying motivated
ESG
Lepidolite and the Goldman Sachs “Report”
Grooming a successor
What’s next?
Rapid fire
59:3610/08/2022
Episode 140: Mid Year Update / Listener Questions
This is a solo episode where I discuss learnings from recent travel to the Benchmark and Fastmarkets conferences, my visit to the new Lithium Americas Technical Development Center in Reno, thoughts on the "speed" of the DOE loan office and recent announcements by Ford and GM. The episode closes with a Q&A session where I take questions and rapid fire from a long time podcast listener.
37:1924/07/2022
Episode 139: Tony Ottaviano
Tony Ottaviano is the CEO of Liontown Resources and an experienced mining executive.
Topics:
The move from the “Big End of Town” to the world of lithium
The Kathleen Valley project
Going underground
Hiring criteria
The team
Building vs operating
The most significant challenges Tony faces
The offtake deals – Tesla, LG, and Ford
ESG
Core values
The market
Going downstream
Rapid fire
43:4113/07/2022
Episode 138: Peter Hannah
Peter Hannah is the Senior Price Development Manager at Fastmarkets and one of the best young commentators in the battery metals space.
We discuss:
Lithium supply and demand dynamics
The meaning and importance of the spot price Ponder when lithium will mature as an industry
Why supply will define demand over the next few years Discuss the future of hedging lithium
And why we agree $16/kg lithium carbonate won’t happen anytime soon
I close this episode with thoughts on recent analyst reports, Argentina’s latest move to secure fair export prices and BYD’s foray into Africa
01:02:3404/06/2022
Episode 137: David Guerrero
David Guerrero is currently an independent consultant and advisor with a long history in the Argentina lithium industry beginning with Lithium One before becoming the President of Galaxy Resources - Argentina. David is sought after by parties from around the world that draw on his deep knowledge when considering investments in South American lithium brine assets.
Topics:
The current state of the lithium industry in Argentina
Which new projects have the best chance of producing by 2025 & 2030
The most significant barriers to success for brine projects
Infrastructure challenges
The potential for export of “liquid spodumene” aka lithium chloride brine
The role of Federal and Provincial governments in the lithium industry
Argentina vs Chilean royalty policy
Lithium geopolitics
ESG
DLE
Rapid fire
52:2028/05/2022
Episode 136: WeChat Lithium Night
My Q&A session with a WeChat Group featuring some of the brightest young minds in the lithium/battery/EV ecosystem.
Topics:
The Rise and Future of Ganfeng
Global Supply Chain Issues
BYD & CATL's Future Outside of China
Tesla's Lithium Positioning
The Lithium Decade
Why Didn't Western Lithium Companies Prepare for the EV Boom?
Do Any Legacy OEMs have a Meaningful Lithium Strategy?
The Best Barometer of Lithium Price
Chile's Lithium Future
How Much Influence will China have in Argentina's Lithium Future?
DLE
Geopolitics and the Battery Space
01:21:1714/05/2022
Episode 135: Dr. Rene LeBlanc
Rene LeBlanc is the Chief Technical Officer at Lithium Americas. Rene has also worked for Tesla and FMC Lithium (now Livent).
Topics:
How much lithium is needed in the production of a lithium ion battery pack?
Update on Cauchari
Ramping up a greenfield lithium project
Cycle times
Seasonality in brine production
Update on Thacker Pass
LAC's new Technical Center in Reno
DLE
Price
ESG
Cauchari's water use vs currently used DLE
Talent acquisition
Rapid fire
45:3324/04/2022
Episode 134: Rio Tinto (Marnie Finlayson & Grant Donald)
My guests from Rio Tinto are Marnie Finlayson, MD of Battery Materials, and Grant Donald, GM of Strategic Marketing, Minerals.
Topics:
RT’s battery materials strategy
Being a leader in the green economy
Producing lithium from mine waste in California
The Rincon project in Argentina
The battle for lithium talent
Supporting local communities
Development timelines
Keeping up with technological change
RT’s view of the market going forward
RT’s thoughts on where their lithium will go
The status of the Jadar project in Serbia
Price
Being a leading force in the energy transition
How does RT’s battery business look in five years?
Rapid Fire
In my closing remarks I discuss Elon Musk’s tweet about getting in to lithium production. Lithium remains Elon and Tesla’s Achilles’ heel
01:00:5809/04/2022
Episode 133: Simon Moores
Topics:
The Benchmark vision & business model
Limiting factors to the growth of the “lithium ion economy”
The “great battery raw material disconnect”
The LME nickel fiasco
Is President Biden invoking the Defense Production Act significant?
Tesla compared with legacy OEMs
The emerging US Battery Supply chain compared with the EU – rhetoric vs reality
Vertical Integration in the battery/EV space
Why the lithium shortage is understated – the battery scrap conundrum
Where is Benchmark in five years?
The impact of geopolitics on the lithium ion battery world
Rapid Fire
57:5603/04/2022
Episode 132: "March Madness"
A solo episode covering the following topics:
Lithium prices - why SQM, Albemarle and Livent have very different prices per kg
The price of lithium stocks
The false narrative of Chinese lithium dominance
Is GM the "Don Quixote" of the EV world?
Energy Secretary Granholm playing politics in West Virginia
Lithium training for media types
Geothermal lithium - not ready for prime time?
19:3426/03/2022
Episode 131: Seth Goldstein
Seth Goldstein is an analyst at Morningstar - an industry leader providing independent research and analysis on a global basis. In his role at Morningstar, Seth covers Tesla, Albemarle, SQM, Livent and Lithium Americas.
Topics:
The EV market from a regional perspective
An update on Tesla’s new plants in Texas and Germany
Lithium supply and demand - how long will the shortage last?
Was Albemarle’s new lithium demand estimate for 2030 a meaningless theoretical exercise?
Why lithium is different than other resource markets
The Mineral Resources / Albemarle lithium JV - who has the upper hand in WA?
Livent: Too little, too late with a flawed strategy? Or a strong niche player?
Cathode – which “flavor” wins?
SQM – will they outperform Albemarle on price again in this market cycle?
Will SQM finally meet one of their volume predictions?
The “Spot” vs contract pricing gap – how much? For how long?
How will OEMs adjust their strategy to lithium limitations in this decade?
Seth’s thoughts on Lithium Americas – Cauchari and Thacker Pass
Product qualification in a market shortage
Rapid Fire
56:1127/02/2022
Episode 130: Chris Reed
Chris Reed is the CEO of Neometals
Topics include:
First lithium success – the development of Mt Marion and a profitable exit
Battery recycling plans – Europe, North America, Asia
Feedstock – scrap & end of life batteries, timing
EVs “dirty little secret” – minimizing the current five years it takes the average EV to recoup the carbon footprint deficit with ICEs
The contribution recycling can make to lithium supply by 2030 and 2040
“Peak Spodumene”: What total LCE volume? When?
Electrolytic Lithium aka “Eli”– the process and potential
Changing the cost curve
Neometals upcoming London Listing
Supply and demand imbalance
Doomsday scenarios
Rapid fire
51:3220/02/2022
Episode 129: "Live from El Dorado" with Standard Lithium & Benchmark Mineral Intelligence
A double episode for Super Bowl weekend.
Part One is with Standard Lithium's Dr Andy Robinson and Will Smith. Andy is COO. Will is Engineering Manager. We discuss the Standard Lithium project with partner Lanxess in El Dorado, Arkansas. Part Two features Andrew Miller the COO of Benchmark Mineral intelligence. We discuss lithium price, supply and demand and several other topics.
01:02:3712/02/2022
Episode 128: Simon Hay
Simon Hay is the CEO of Leo Lithium and the former CEO of Galaxy Resources. Leo Lithium has a 50/50 JV with Ganfeng Lithium to develop the Goulamina Project in Mali.
Topics include:
Africa's history in lithium
Project details: resource/reserves, grade, flowsheet, utilities, etc
Timing of stage 1 and stage 2
The Team
Challenges
Benefits of having Ganfeng as a partner
Offtake
Price formula
The lithium market - what is "different this time"
44:2604/02/2022
Episode 127: Sigma Lithium
My guests are Co-CEOs Ana Cabral-Gardner and Calvyn Gardner
A lively discussion that was originally 72 minutes edited down to 47 minutes.
Topics:
Construction update and challenges
Ramping up
Covid and other obstacles
Sustainability
BlackRock’s Investment
ESG Investing
Social License
Battery Quality spodumene – reality or myth?
Partners that matter
Lifting up the local community
Lithium: “The Limiting Factor” to EV Growth?
How long is the “short term”?
Twitter @SigmaLithium
47:4328/12/2021
Episode 126: Henrique Ribeiro
My guest is Henrique Ribeiro of S&P Global Platts, a leader in providing price information, industry market insights and analytics. In addition to his work in lithium/battery metals price information and analysis, Henrique is also a host on the Platts Future Energy Podcast.
In this episode, we discuss Platts role in providing information about lithium and other battery metals. We cover their methodology for making price assessments and how they factor in lithium product specifications.
We discuss the significance of the “spot” price and why it can vary so significantly from contract price and information found in import/export statistics.
I ask about quality control in the Platts process and how they deal with contacts that may try to “massage” the information they provide.
I ask Henrique for his thoughts on the lithium supply and demand imbalance and when price may “soften”.
We discuss the questions Henrique is most often asked by various industry stakeholders.
Platts does not forecast lithium prices. We will discuss the logic behind that practice.
In a world of many different prices for the same lithium grade, you will learn the value of the spot price as an indicator.
We close with a slow rapid fire.
Find out more at: spglobal.com
56:0518/12/2021
Episode 125: Daniel Jimenez
My guest is Daniel Jimenez ex SQM and currently running his own advisory firm, iLi Markets (ilimarkets.com). Recorded less than two weeks before the Chilean Presidential election runoff - described as the most divisive in the country's history. We discuss potential impacts of the election on the lithium industry depending on whether the winner is from the right or the left.
At minute 14, we begin a discussion of the Atacama & the current & future production of both SQM & Albemarle from the world's premier brine asset. We we also review the reasons for SQM lagging the pricing results of most competitors. Spoiler alert – we both expect that situation to change.
We also ponder Albemarle’s long & winding road in ramping up production from expansions in Chile.
We move on to a discussion of global supply & demand. Daniel’s 2021 & 2022 total demand numbers are higher than mine but not drastically so.
Daniel provides his thoughts on the potential for new lithium projects in Chile as well as DLE before moving on to the potential & challenges for the EU & North America to supply a significant percentage of their future lithium demand.
We cover the recent rise of Chinese investment in South American lithium projects.
Will recycling contribute significantly to lithium supply before 2030?
Solid state batteries & the potential impact on what lithium raw material requirements.
Rapid fire.
Daniel can be found on Twitter @D_Jimenez_Sch
54:0210/12/2021
Episode 124: Dr Yuan Gao
Dr. Yuan Gao has been a significant player in the lithium ion battery space for a quarter of a century. From his early days at FMC Lithium working in battery R&D to his time with Molycorp in rare earth materials followed by a five-year tenure as CEO of Chinese cathode producer Pulead and most recently as a member of Lithium Americas Board of Directors and as a sought after advisor. Few have the breadth of experience Yuan has.
Dr. Gao holds twenty-one patents.
In this episode we discuss the cathode market in detail from LFP to High Nickel products. We also review the challenges in producing LMFP and “Cobalt Free” High Nickel.
We discuss the regionalization of battery supply chains and why it will be difficult for North America and Europe to play “catch up” with Asia.
We move on to the future of solid state batteries and the challenges faced by the recycling industry. We ponder when recycling industry will transition from processing the scrap of new gigafactories to being part of a truly circular lithium ion battery ecosystem.
As always, we close with rapid fire.
49:5424/11/2021
Episode 122: Dr Tom Benson
Tom Benson is the lead geologist at Lithium Americas
Topics:
What makes a viable lithium resource?
Project time lines
The world's top resources - #1 may surprise you
Thacker Pass
Projects, protests, and politics
Being a good neighbor
Sustainability
Tom Benson’s version of the “Golden Rule”
Great resources vs great projects
Straight talk about sulfur
Developing talent
The “Lithium Lab”
Environmental “imperialism”
The battle for hearts and minds
Rapid fire
Tom can be found on Twitter @thomasrbenson
52:3107/11/2021
Episode 121: Nano One
Dan Blondal, CEO & Alex Holmes, COO
Topics:
· M2CAM (metal to cathode active material) technology benefits
· Latest developments in LFP cathode
· Nano One’s LFP strategy outside China
· Avoiding the “precursor problem”
· The evolution of EV battery technology
· Working with OEMs and mining companies
· The future of battery supply chains in North America & Europe
· Nano One’s differentiating technology
· The cathode industry’s waste problem
· Recycling and the “dirty little secret” of gigafactories
· Partnerships with governments and industry
· Nickel and manganese plays for Nano
· Building the team
· Battery geopolitics
· Making improvements on the Asia battery model
· New school supply chains
· Rapid Fire
Nano One on Twitter: @NanoOne_NANO
54:2404/11/2021
Episode 119: Live Q&A from Panorama Minero
My brief remarks on the status of the lithium market followed by Q&A at the Panorama Minero "Lithium South America" event in Buenos Aires on September 29th, 2021. The Q&A begins at 12 minutes. The questions come from a variety of influential people in the world of lithium in South America.
Below of is a list of the questions and the people asking them:
1- Daniel Jiménez, iLi Markets
Your opinion on projects that plan to use DLE, not just in Argentina but also the US & Europe.
2- Miguel Soler: Secretaria de Minería e Hydrocarbons’ de Jujuy
Based on your knowledge and the history of technology evolution during the 20th and present centuryy. How long you believe technologies demanding Lithium will stay with us? before they are replaced by others like Hydrogen and/or new developments ?
3- Flavia Royón, Secretaria de Minería y Energía de Salta
What are the biggest threats you see, associated to the lithium industry development in LatAm in light of: the market dynamics, geopolitics, process technologies and the availability of other critical energy metals?
4- Teresita Regalado, Secretaria de Desarrollo Minero de Catamarca
Thoughts on how to optimize Argentina's opportunity regarding the Lithium supply, taking into account its geographical location with respect to other sources of raw material located close(r) to where the highest industrial consumption is ?
5- José de Castro, COO de Integra Lithium
Why, despite the fact CAPEX, OPEX, Water Footprint and Carbon Footprint are usually higher in most DLE processes than those in conventional evaporation, so many companies have been generating promises on “green and sustainable” processes, contrary to current productions and generating a bad feeling effect in public opinion?
6- Carlos Galli, Consultor/Especialista
We discussed last year about the involvement of OEM (auto makers) in lithium production. Do you see any changes in their approach to try to secure lithium supply? What are your thoughts about this?
7- Alejandra Cardona, de la Cámara Minera de Salta y Mint Intelligence
In the global context, the generation of clean energies is promoted as strategies to fight clámate change. Talingo care of the environment means more mining is needed. How did this impact lithium & other E-mobility related minerals supply projections on a global scale and how does Argentina position itself in this scenario?
8- Alejandro Colombo, Director Periodístico de Panorama Minero
Are you expecting a bigger move from overseas Chinese companies through M&As? What response is expected from the United States and Europe to ensure a sustainable supply chain in the coming years?
9- Ignacio Celorrio, Presidente para Latinoamerica - Lithium Americas
En: Which sources of financing for Li Projects will emerge, in addition to the current ones ? Also, which countries you believe have the biggest potential to take new projects into production ?
10- Asistente al seminario - Event attendee
There is not much talk about Lithium Chloride and solid state batteries use lithium metal. What is the projection of possible Lithium Chloride producers?
38:5411/10/2021
Episode 118 "Live from London"
The live portion of this 20 minute episode was recorded in the iconic London pub "The Dove" with Benchmark's Simon Moores, his buddy Shay, Standard Lithium CEO Robert Mintak and Standard's Chairman Robert Cross. Initially the meeting was just supposed to be lunch with Simon. When the party grew to five, it seemed like a great opportunity to pull out my IPhone and record an impromptu podcast. The "live" portion is more about people coming out of lockdown and returning to international travel than lithium. I also talk about others I met on my first international trip since March 2020. I was also fortunate to catch up with the management of Livista Energy and the CEO of Fastmarkets and some other companies I am not a liberty to discuss - yet. Shout-outs to Panorama Minero who host a favorite event of mine in Argentina, the good citizens of El Dorado, Arkansas and two locals specifically - you have to listen to find out the reason. Finally, you will hear about plans to get Simon a bit of "southern cultural training" when he travels to Arkansas.
20:3030/09/2021
Episode 116: Carlos Galli - "All Things Lithium in Argentina"
Carlos Galli is a globally recognized expert in lithium brine technology. This is a wide ranging discussion on the lithium market in Argentina including what needs to happen from a policy perspective to fully leverage Argentina’s diverse portfolio of lithium containing salars.
The importance of access to adequate quantities of fresh water for lithium projects and the great debate of how brine use should be considered in the water discussion.
We review the top projects in some detail. LAC/Minera Exar, Orocobre (both Sal de Vida & Cauchari Expansion), Livent's expansion, Neolithium, POSCO, Eramet, Rincon, Lithica, Millennial, etc.
Ganfeng's ambitious plans beyond Cauchari
We also discuss Lake Resources and their recent commentary about their future
Direct Lithium Extraction (DLE) is another topic both as it relates to Argentina and other parts of the world.
The discussion strays across the border on occasion as we bring Chile and Bolivia into the discussion.
01:07:0416/09/2021
Episode 113 Stephen Biggins
My guest is Stephen Biggins the Managing Director of Core Lithium. Core is developing the Finniss Lithium Project in the Northern Territory of Australia near the capital city of Darwin.
We discuss:
Their project: from metallurgy to process details and timing
Relationships with two top level lithium producers – Ganfeng and Yahua
Offtake details
The project DFS
Drilling to grow the reserve base
The benefits of developing a project in the Northern Territory
Lithium “fines” as a by product
The market: entering the “perpetual lithium deficit”
Becoming vertically integrated in the future
Project execution challenges
Building a team
ESG
Rapid fire
42:2526/08/2021
Episode 111: Dale Henderson
My guest is Dale Henderson, Chief Operating Officer, of Pilbara Minerals.
Topics include:
An operations update
Acquiring and restarting Altura’s operations
Increasing production to ~550K MT of spodumene concentrate by mid-2022 and more than a 1,000K MT by mid-decade
The market and price outlook
Financing
Adopting new technology to reduce the operation’s carbon footprint
Potential new products
Company culture
Lessons learned in the lean years
Rapid fire
Dale is on Twitter @henderson_dale
Pilbara Minerals is on Twitter and Instagram @PilbaraMinerals
47:2629/07/2021
Episode 108: Adam Panayi
Adam Panayi is the Managing Director of UK based EV and Battery consultancy Rho Motion. The key to understanding the future direction of the lithium industry is understanding the growth of EVs and batteries as well understanding the developments in cathode chemistry and solid state. Shout outs to Benchmark Mineral Intelligence, Simon Moores and Roger Atkins.
In a little less than an hour we cover:
How Rho Motion collects and parses data aka “how the forecast sausage is made”
GWH projections for 2025 and 2030 – the driver of lithium demand
The methodology of predicting Gigafactory utilization
Stated Gigafactory capacity vs effective capacity
EV penetration by region
ESS – taking what batteries it can get (for now)
Gigafactory start-up reject rates (the dirty little secret of battery producers)
Warranties
Why after several EV “false starts” it is different this time
Cathode chemistry projections
Rapid fire
57:3626/06/2021
Episode 107: Standard Lithium
Guests: Standard Lithium’s CEO, Robert Mintak and COO, Dr. Andy Robinson.
Topics include:
Managing a project and building a team remotely during Covid
Getting the process right: scale and quality data matters
The benefits of a building a new plant within a larger, established chemical operation
Seeking attention and support from the Biden administration
Timing of commercialization
Potential of lithium from the Smackover formation beyond El Dorado
The coming lithium supply mismatch with demand
The actions needed from OEMs and policymakers
After "rapid fire" I close the episode with comments/advice for the Biden administration on battery raw material supply chain policy
39:0319/06/2021
Episode 105: Alexi Zawadzki
Alexi Zawadzki is the President of North American Operations for Lithium Americas (LAC). He is currently leading the effort to bring Thacker Pass into production by mid decade.
In this episode we discuss the resource (type and size), the current status of the project including pilot plant operations, LAC's commitment to sustainable project development, innovative mining and reclamation techniques, planned use of renewable energy and desire to minimize the impact to the environment.
Thacker Pass will be the first world class lithium resource to be brought online in the US in this century.
41:0328/05/2021
Episode 104 Jon Evans, CEO Lithium Americas
Jon Evans is one of the most effective and knowledgeable executives in the lithium world. He is also a great leader.
I have known Jon for well over a decade. First as my boss when I was running FMC Lithium’s Asia operations. When I left FMC and started Global Lithium, Jon was often a source of insightful advice. He remains a mentor to me despite being a Zodiac calendar younger than I am. Yes, you can still use a mentor in your 60s.
Among the topics we cover:
The status LAC’s projects in Argentina (Cauchari) and the US (Thacker Pass)
The positive aspects of Covid project delays
Why a US critical metals supply chain will develop despite many with a “not in my backyard” mindset
The high level of partnership interest in Thacker Pass and why Jon doesn’t want or need an offtake agreement
LAC’s strong balance sheet and the flexibility it brings
Building effective teams and how LAC hires
Risk mitigation
Global supply and demand
The developing “broader audience” for lithium
ESG
Dangerous assumptions
Why the industry will need to produce products beyond carbonate and hydroxide for the battery industry
Rapid fire
41:4021/05/2021
Episode 103: Carlos Vicens
Carlos Vicens is the CFO of Neo Lithium. We discuss the 3Qs project in Catamarca Province, Argentina.
Topics include:
Operating in Argentina
Unexpected “benefits” of Covid in moving the project forward
ESG – more than just the “E”
Their partnership with global battery leader CATL
Straight talk on product “cuts”
The top challenges bringing a lithium project into production
Setting the record straight on 3Qs logistics
Price expectations
DLE
Financing path forward
Rapid
52:2707/05/2021
E100 part 2 "Best of the Podcast"
The is part 2 of my 100th episode with highlights from some of my favorite episodes and guests.
Jon Evans - Lithium Americas
Li Liangbin and Wang Xiaoshen - Ganfeng
Eduardo Bitran - CORFO
Ken Brinsden - Pilbara Minerals
Dr Yuan Gao - ex CEO of Pulead
Dan Blondal and Dr Stephen Campbell - Nano One
The Lowry family
01:33:1601/05/2021
Episode 100: Chris Berry
Chris Berry, President of House Mountain Partners ( www.discoveryinvesting.com ), is one of the most highly regarded battery metals analysts in the space. He was also the first guest on the Global Lithium Podcast in November of 2017. It seemed natural to bring Chris back for episode 100 especially given the recent resurgence of interest in lithium and other battery metals as the global energy transition unfolds.
Known as "The Voice of Reason" Chris has a unique ability to speak plainly about complex topics. His insights regarding the increasing role of geopolitics in the development of battery supply chains makes this episode worth a listen.
Chris can be found on twitter @cberry1
59:3316/04/2021
Episode 99: Jed Dorsheimer
Jed Dorsheimer is the Global Head of Sustainability Research at Canaccord Genuity, Co-founder and President of the Biophysical Economics Institute and host of the Hidden Joule Podcast. Jed is a leading commentator on: Sustainability/ESG, Allocation of Resources, Climate Change, and Systems Complexity.
We discuss:
Economic ROI (Energy Return on Energy Invested)
Basics of Thermodynamics
An example of something that “Tesla did Differently”
What does “Sustainability” really mean?
Does Nuclear Power get a bad rap?
An example of a well-intentioned German Policy Failure
The Current State of ESG and Life Cycle Analysis
ESG Funds – Clean & Green??
Considering “Negative Externalities”
Concentrated vs Diffused Energy Systems
Jed’s minimum EROI Criteria for Sustainability
ESG Scoring
Rapid Fire
49:0819/03/2021
Episode 98: Carlos Galli
Carlos Galli is an independent lithium consultant in Argentina. Carlos has worked on many brine projects both as a principal and a consultant. He learned from one of the best lithium minds in Argentina, his father Dr Daniel Galli. Topics covered in this episode include:
Covid’s ongoing impact in Argentina
Building a “lithium bridge” from the Argentine Puna to Europe for the EU battery supply chain
Some underappreciated benefits of brine assets
The “water dimension” in lithium projects and why it is often ignored or mischaracterized
Ponds vs Direct Lithium Extraction (DLE)
DLE’s potential to bring quality (if not cost) advantages
Why the Argentina President should stop hyping supply targets
Ranking the top five Argentina lithium projects
Value addition vs chasing the value chain
How many projects can coexist on Salar del Hombre Muerto?
Beyond DLE
Bolivia – Saudi Arabia without oil?
Rapid Fire
01:08:3813/03/2021
Episode 97: Alex Cheeseman
Alex Cheesemen (@ACheesey on Twitter) is an ex Australian military officer and a significant player in the Western Australia lithium industry. Alex had the unique “opportunity” to be one of the last people standing at Altura Mining. In this episode Alex will share what he learned in the process of helping bring a significant hard rock asset into production and then, due to the vagaries of lithium asset financing challenges and unfavorable market conditions, he was tasked with taking it through the receivership process. Alex has a great perspective on the WA lithium industry past, present, and future.
We discuss:
The timeframe for bringing projects into production
Pros and Cons of having a lean project team
DMS vs flotation
The financial struggles of junior mining companies
Learning how to connect Altura’s product with the conversion market in China
The receivership experience and how the WA mining community helped out
Thoughts on when currently shut in spodumene capacity will come back online
Mineral Resources and Albemarle aka “watching the elephants dance”
How much spodumene production can we expect from Australia in 2025 and 2030
How soon price will recover and to what level
China and Australia trade tensions
Why I may never be let back into WA
Plus “Rapid Fire”
01:03:4926/02/2021
Episode 94: Simon Hay
Episode 94: Simon Hay
Simon Hay is the CEO of Galaxy Resources.
We review the status of production at Mt Cattlin and development plans for Sal de Vida and James Bay.
We discuss spodumene prices and why Galaxy will continue to sell at spot price in 2021.
Simon makes “no apology” for the new phased development strategy at Sal de Vida and discusses the conditions that need to be in place to move James Bay forward.
We discuss the pros and cons of having partners.
Project execution and teams.
The challenge of managing a project in Argentina from Perth during Covid.
Will Western Australia producers learn the lessons from the past 24 months when considering capacity restarts?
I ask Simon the best aspect of his job.
And, as always, Rapid Fire.
47:1912/02/2021
Episode 92: Seth Goldstein
Seth Goldstein is one of the best lithium analysts – anywhere. He works for top rated investment research company Morningstar where in addition to his lithium work he also chairs their EV committee. Prior to joining Morningstar, Seth worked for Berkshire Hathaway Energy.
As part of his role with Morningstar Seth follows Albemarle, SQM and Livent; however, he is also well versed on other companies in the space, as well as the EV and cathode markets.
Topics include:
Seth’s analytical process
Analyzing the former “Big 3”
When will EVs achieve cost parity with ICE vehicles?
Barriers to EV adoption
EV penetration in 2025 and 2030
Why building recharging infrastructure is more important than subsidies
Carbonate vs hydroxide – the market split in 2030
Is the lithium industry as opaque as it seems?
Seth’s thoughts on the cost curve and future pricing
Albemarle’s changing price strategy
Will Tesla continue to lead in EVs?
Handicapping new lithium projects and expansions
Will the “Big 4” continue to dominate supply in 2030
LAC – the next major?
Rapid Fire
From my perspective this is a “top 10” episode.
Seth can be found on twitter @SethGMStar1
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01:02:4022/01/2021
Episode 90: Sigma Lithium
Episode 90: Sigma Lithium - Ana Cabral-Gardner & Calvyn Gardner
Sigma is developing a brownfield hard rock project in Brazil with a focus on “green mining” and ESG considerations.
Topics include:
The three main considerations in developing Sigma’s resource
ESG
Sigma’s competitive position vs Australian Hard Rock producers
Partnerships and Sigma’s plan for downstream lithium chemical participation
The “social license” challenges for mining projects based on recent events in Brazil
Why “green premiums” are not built into project financial estimates
Life Cycle Assessment audits
Covid challenges
Lithium “hippies” plus rapid fire.
50:5608/01/2021
Episode 89: Livista Energy
Episode 89: Livista Energy
This episode features Daniel Bloor, CEO, and Jose Hofer, Commercial Manager, of Livista Energy. You can follow them on Twitter @LivistaEnergy and on Linked In as well as their website: Livista.Energy
Livista plans to have the first large scale lithium conversion plant operating in Europe. In addition to discussing the project, we also cover:
Battery passports and traceability
The challenge of finding raw material supply
Will “ESG compliant” material receive price premiums?
Financing challenges
Site selection
Livista’s scope of ambition
Does Europe need a strategic lithium stockpile?
The future of lithium price
01:01:4018/12/2020
Episode 88: Minviro & Life Cycle Assessments
Episode 88: Minviro / Life Cycle Assessments
Robert Pell and Alex Grant from Minviro, pioneers in producing Life Cycle Assessments for the lithium industry, are my guests. Minviro is focused on the environmental portion of the emerging and increasingly significant field of ESG.
We discuss:
The development, importance and value of life cycle assessments
Impact categories
Properly quantifying results vs “tick the box” exercises
The need for 3rd party reviews
OEMs desire for ESG compliant material but unwillingness to invest in it
How seriously life cycle assessments are being taken by the industry
And for those of you that are Ayn Rand fans, after this episode you may be asking “Who is Sarah?” instead of “Who is John Galt?”
01:08:1006/12/2020
Episode 87: Live Q&A from Panorama Minero's "Lithium South America"
My favorite lithium event of the year is Panorama Minero's “Lithium South America”. I had the opportunity to keynote at this event in Salta in 2018 and Jujuy in 2019. This year at the virtual event I participated by doing a live Global Lithium Podcast with a great co-host, Carlos Galli, who conveyed the questions from the audience and added his own insightful commentary.
Topics include:
Why OEMs are not investing in lithium and when this will likely change
The bifurcated market in both quality and price
Covid’s impact on the lithium demand
The coming shortage of battery quality lithium
Tesla’s lithium failure
Why Argentina should “build a lithium bridge” to Europe
The Future of DLE
My ranking of the “Top Five” lithium players
Bolivia – the land of lithium dreams
In addition I make a few comments on the "divorce" of Livent and E3 Metals
48:1028/11/2020