Matthew Rattlesnake Grant disappeared and was murdered on the Blackfeet Indian Reservation in December of 2016. His family in the United States and Canada now push for media coverage of missing and murdered Natives as part of the MMIP (Missing and Murdered Indigenous People/Persons) movement and for arrests in Matthew's case.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Head to airdoctorpro.com and use promo code THEFALL and depending on the model receive UP TO 39% off or UP TO $300 off! Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Liz Lipka and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The disappearance and homicide of teenage Susana are presented differently by police and family members. But when an off-duty officer is charged with her murder, the details of his behavior paint a startlingly clear picture. JUSTICE 4 SUSANA Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Try Peloton Tread, Row, or Bikes risk free with a 30 Day Home Trial. New members only, not available in remote locations. See additional terms at onepeloton.com/home-trial. Head to airdoctorpro.com and use promo code THEFALL and depending on the model receive UP TO 39% off or UP TO $300 off! Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Liz Lipka and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Part two of our series covering the disappearance of Pat Allen Guild, and exploring the investigation into his disappearance.  Patrick “Pat” Allen Guild moved to Nashville with dreams of making it big in the songwriting business. But things didn’t work out as he planned; he spent his time in the city living in its unhoused community, in an encampment near the I-24 overpass. Pat was last heard from around December of 1991—and since then, there’s been no trace of him. Now, his adult daughter, Shannon, is trying to work backward to separate the threads of her father’s life, and piece together the bits of information she’s discovered to find out what, exactly, happened to her father. It’s not a pleasant journey for her; her own mother was afraid of Pat, and for good reason. But more than anything, Shannon need to know—she needs resolution.  To submit information, please contact Detective Filter at Metro Nashville Police at 615-862-7803. Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Liz Lipka and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Patrick “Pat” Allen Guild moved to Nashville with dreams of making it big in the songwriting business. But things didn’t work out as he planned; he spent his time in the city living in its unhoused community, in an encampment near the I-24 overpass. Pat was last heard from around December of 1991—and since then, there’s been no trace of him. Now, his adult daughter, Shannon, is trying to work backward to separate the threads of her father’s life, and piece together the bits of information she’s discovered to find out what, exactly, happened to her father. It’s not a pleasant journey for her; her own mother was afraid of Pat, and for good reason. But more than anything, Shannon need to know—she needs resolution.  To submit information, please contact Detective Filter at Metro Nashville Police at 615-862-7803. Apple premium listeners: there's an issue with the feed publishing, but we're getting it looked into ASAP! Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Liz Lipka and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This two-part series explores the disappearance of Victor Greenwood from the small town of Atoka, Oklahoma; since 2002, his story has been clouded by rumor, misinformation, and questions that lead investigators, and his family, down a number of paths of possibility.  In hopes of producing new leads in his case, and highlighting the lack of coverage for missing adult men, we are bringing you the case of Victor Ray Greenwood--first aired in 2021--again. His story contains so many twists, turns and uncertainties that your attention is essential to his case’s resolution.  This two-part series explores the disappearance of Victor Greenwood from the small town of Atoka, Oklahoma; since 2002, his story has been clouded by rumor, misinformation, and questions that lead investigators, and his family, down a number of paths of possibility.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Liz Lipka and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This two-part series explores the disappearance of Victor Greenwood from the small town of Atoka, Oklahoma; since 2002, his story has been clouded by rumor, misinformation, and questions that lead investigators, and his family, down a number of paths of possibility.  In hopes of producing new leads in his case, and highlighting the lack of coverage for missing adult men, we are bringing you the case of Victor Ray Greenwood--first aired in 2021--again. His story contains so many twists, turns and uncertainties that your attention is essential to his case’s resolution.  This two-part series explores the disappearance of Victor Greenwood from the small town of Atoka, Oklahoma; since 2002, his story has been clouded by rumor, misinformation, and questions that lead investigators, and his family, down a number of paths of possibility.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Liz Lipka and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Raymond Green was kidnapped after his birth at Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta, GA in 1978, and his mother, Donna Green, has been searching for him ever since—and helping the families of other missing children along the way; now, a new NCMEC campaign to find Raymond brings Donna a chance that she’s been hoping would come for 44 years.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Liz Lipka and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In March of 1976, a young woman was discovered, with no obvious trauma, in the Harpeth River in Nashville; she carried on her a picture of a little boy, and a trail that led to witnesses who said she’d hitchhiked with a mysterious friend, all the way from Minnesota—but that trail led nowhere. Without the possibility of DNA testing, the best shot of identifying “Sherry” Jane Doe is using her extremely accurate forensic art, and the details she shared of her life—and, perhaps, a daughter that ties her to South Carolina.  The Fall Line has commissioned new isolated forensic art of her teeth to share with the public in hopes that this information will aid in identification; you can see this image and all others associated with the case on our website. To submit information, please contact Detective Filter at Metro Nashville Police at 615-862-7803. Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Liz Lipka and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In March of 1998, a homicide victim was recovered from Nashville’s Cumberland River, with nothing to indicate who she might be, and the best clue to her identity a “Leo” astrological charm; now, investigative genetic genealogy is the best path toward her name, but the trail has stopped short in an Alabama county, and investigators are seeking your help. The Fall Line is releasing new information in “Leo” Jane Doe’s case; you can view the images we mention on our social media accounts. To submit information or contact MNPD about uploading your DNA, please contact Detective Filter at Metro Nashville Police at 615-862-7803. Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Donate to The Florence Junction Clandestine Grave Jane Doe: https://tiltify.com/@dnadoeproject/jane-doe-up-7209-pinal-county-az Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Liz Lipka and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A re-release of our series on the Twiggs County John Doe, in hopes of bringing in new tips:  The second episode covering The Twiggs County John Doe offers a deep dive into the science behind the cutting-edge--and most fascinating--techniques used in the identification of Does, and how these forensic advances might help in this middle Georgia case. We speak with isotopic expert Dr. Leslie Fitzpatrick, who is a biological anthropologist and bioarchaeologist and is a faculty member in the department of Applied Forensic Sciences at Mercyhurst University. We also interview Dr. Kelly Harkins Kincaid, CEO of Astrea Labs, about their cutting-edge techniques and the application in identification cases.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Liz Lipka and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A re-release of our series on the Twiggs County John Doe, in hopes of bringing in new tips:  After an army diesel-truck crashes on the way to Macon, GA, spilling diesel fuel across the highway and into a nearby creek, emergency workers discover skeletal remains in a drainage ditch—and set off a nearly two-decade investigation. Biological anthropologist Dr. Amy Michael returns to offer her expertise in forensic anthropology on the case.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Liz Lipka and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Roycinda Alexander thought that justice would come swiftly for her son, Darren Gray, who was murdered in public, in a city park, during his own child’s birthday party—but she soon discovered that the neighborhood she’d raised her family in began to feel like a land of strangers.   On May 8th, 2010, 24-year-old Darren Gray attended his child’s birthday party at a Norfolk-area public park; during the celebration, he was attacked by a group of men and endured a brutal beating that ended in his murder. Close to 13 years later, his mother and siblings have more questions than answers, and though some suspects were identified—and eventually, convicted—of Darren’s beating, his murderers remain at large. Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Listen to season 2 of Bear Brook on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.  Follow COLD wherever you get your podcasts. Hey Prime Members, you can binge the entire series ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Translation by Guadalupe Lopez/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On May 8th, 2010, 24-year-old Darren Gray attended his child’s birthday party at a Norfolk-area public park; during the celebration, he was attacked by a group of men and endured a brutal beating that ended in his murder. Close to 13 years later, his mother and siblings have more questions than answers, and though some suspects were identified—and eventually, convicted—of Darren’s beating, his murderers remain at large. Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/  Go to  SIMPLISAFE.COM/FALLLINE and claim a free indoor security camera plus 20% off your order with Interactive Monitoring. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Translation by Guadalupe Lopez/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we take a deep dive into what it takes to construct an entirely new database--from the ground up--of a database that not only collects data on the missing and unidentified, but hopes to use that research to assist the communities least likely to receive resources, and most likely to remain unidentified after death. We analyze the construction of the new Mississippi Repository for the Missing and Unidentified, explore its unique “mapping” system for identifying clusters of the missing, and speak with its creators, two MSU professors, Drs. Jordan Lynton Cox and Jesse Goliath. Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Social handles and email for Mississippi Repository for Missing and Unidentified Persons  Email is: [email protected] Poster Presentation: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/365360272_Mapping_Medico-legal_Disparities_The_Mississippi_Repository_for_Missing_and_Unidentified_Persons Cemetery Preservation Project: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/news-1/2023/2/7/msu-field-school  Episodes mentioned: Sovereign Bodies: http://bit.ly/40xNI5D  LAMMP Database: http://bit.ly/3ll4gxf Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Translation by Guadalupe Lopez/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Part three in our three-part series covering the disappearance and murder of Chairo Garibay Ferreyra: on December 11th, 2005, 20 year-old Chairo disappeared; she’d planned on attending church with her family in Olivehurst, California, but she never arrived.She was reported missing to the Yuba County Sheriff, and both her family and law enforcement began a search that extended through Christmas. It would be five weeks before Chairo was found. Though there would eventually be a 50,000-dollar reward authorized in Chairo’s case, no one has been arrested for her murder.  There is a 50,000 dollar reward available in Chairo’s case. If you have any information, you can contact authorities in the following ways: Yuba County Sheriff’s Office has an Anonymous Tipline at (530) 749-5181. Their tip mail is [email protected].  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today at Prose.com/FALLLINE. Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Go to getscoreknowledge.com to receive a full one week trial for just $1.  Link to printable and sharable posters here: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/news-1/2023/1/13/downloadable-posters-chairo-garibay-1 Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Translation by Guadalupe Lopez/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Part two in our three-part series covering the disappearance and murder of Chairo Garibay Ferreyra: on December 11th, 2005, 20 year-old Chairo disappeared; she’d planned on attending church with her family in Olivehurst, California, but she never arrived.She was reported missing to the Yuba County Sheriff, and both her family and law enforcement began a search that extended through Christmas. It would be five weeks before Chairo was found. Though there would eventually be a 50,000-dollar reward authorized in Chairo’s case, no one has been arrested for her murder.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today at Prose.com/FALLLINE. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Translation by Guadalupe Lopez/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On December 11th, 2005, 20 year-old Chairo disappeared; she’d planned on attending church with her family in Olivehurst, California, but she never showed. She was reported missing to the Yuba County Sheriff, and both her family and law enforcement began a search that extended through Christmas. It would be five weeks before Chairo was found. Though there would eventually be a 50,000-dollar reward authorized in Chairo’s case, no one has been arrested for her murder.   Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today at Prose.com/FALLLINE. Get 40% off any new system at SIMPLISAFE.com/fallline today. Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE.   Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Translation by Guadalupe Lopez/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2023 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/       Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 1985, Ventura County teen Tyra Garcia disappeared; her family knew she hadn’t run away, but they saw local authorities assumed Tyra would return. That was the attitude until Tyra’s body was discovered in an orchard near her home, wrapped in a blanket, and tied with a cord. Now, Tyra’s sister Tanya has had her case ‘reactiviated’ and, with the help of advocate Maria, is pursuing answers.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Contact No Activity: [email protected] Listen to No Activity: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-activity/id1639433048?uo=4 Tanya’s petition: https://chng.it/9Z7Bb6mXks   Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 1985, Ventura County teen Tyra Garcia disappeared; her family knew she hadn’t run away, but they saw local authorities assumed Tyra would return. That was the attitude until Tyra’s body was discovered in an orchard near her home, wrapped in a blanket, and tied with a cord. Now, Tyra’s sister Tanya has had her case ‘reactivated’ and, with the help of advocate Maria, is pursuing answers.  Contact No Activity: [email protected] Listen to No Activity: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-activity/id1639433048?uo=4 Tanya’s petition: https://chng.it/9Z7Bb6mXks Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/FALLLINE. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we are re-releasing our Carolina Girls series. Each episode, we’ll start by providing updates in the cases we covered. In the final episode of the Carolina Girls series, we begin with the kidnapping and murder of Malakia Logan of Greenwood, South Carolina, and then delve into the disappearance of Aaliyah Bell of Rock Hill--the most recent case we've ever covered on The Fall Line.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Get 40% off any new system at SIMPLISAFE.com/fallline today. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

 This week, we are re-releasing our Carolina Girls series. Each episode, we’ll start by providing updates in the cases we covered. In Part 3 of the Carolina Girls series, we begin with a vignette on Shakeima Cabbagestalk, who disappeared in the 1990s, and NiShan Huff, an honors graduate who was murdered in her own apartment in Greenville, South Carolina. Both cases remain open--but could be solved. Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Get 40% off any new system at SIMPLISAFE.com/fallline today. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we are re-releasing our Carolina Girls series. Each episode, we’ll start by providing updates in the cases we covered.  In part two of the Carolina Girls series, we conclude the story of North Carolinian Brittany Locklear, who was kidnapped and murdered in 1998, and discuss the disappearance of another girl--Eva DeBruhl--whose case was, for a time, tied to Henry Lee Lucas.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Get 40% off any new system at SIMPLISAFE.com/fallline today. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we are re-releasing our Carolina Girls series. Each episode, we’ll start by providing updates in the cases we covered. In this episode, the first of a four-part series, we tell the stories of a number of missing and murdered girls and women from the Carolinas, both contemporary and historical. We touch on the stories of Asha Degree, Sherri Lee Truesdale, and begin our two-episode coverage of Brittany Locklear, a five-year-old kidnapped from the bus stop outside her own house. Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Get 40% off any new system at SIMPLISAFE.com/fallline today. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In May 2007, Garnet Lennox, a loving father and Michigan native, disappeared. Within a week, his car, and his body, would be found in East Detroit, and his sons, parents, and brothers were left to try and piece together who had killed Garnet, and why.   Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Go to Uncommongoods.com/FALL to get 15% off your next gift! Sign up today at http://butcherbox.com/FALLLINE and use code FALLLINE to to get free ground beef for the life of your membership plus $10 off. Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The DNA Doe Project had worked to solve the cases of unidentified decedents—also known as “Does.” Through the use of investigative genetic genealogy, cases once though impossible to close are now being solved, and some of the volunteers behind this nonprofit speak to us about its history, its biggest solves, and the cases that need the most support—and the gaps that still remain in IGG that can be improved to better serve the unidentified dead. Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Go to Uncommongoods.com/FALL to get 15% off your next gift! Sign up today at http://butcherbox.com/FALLLINE and use code FALLLINE to to get free ground beef for the life of your membership plus $10 off.   Donate to the case fund for Florence Junction Clandestine Grave Jane Doe 1988: https://tiltify.com/@dnadoeproject/jane-doe-up-7209-pinal-county-az Article mentioned on the show: https://www.californialawreview.org/print/racial-composition-forensic-dna-databases/ Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The DNA Doe Project had worked to solve the cases of unidentified decedents—also known as “Does.” Through the use of investigative genetic genealogy, cases once though impossible to close are now being solved, and some of the volunteers behind this nonprofit speak to us about its history, its biggest solves, and the cases that need the most support—and the gaps that still remain in IGG that can be improved to better serve the unidentified dead. Part two releases tomorrow.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Go to Uncommongoods.com/FALL to get 15% off your next gift! Sign up today at http://butcherbox.com/FALLLINE and use code FALLLINE to to get free ground beef for the life of your membership plus $10 off.   Donate to the case fund for Florence Junction Clandestine Grave Jane Doe 1988: https://tiltify.com/@dnadoeproject/jane-doe-up-7209-pinal-county-az     Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, in honor of National Native American Heritage Day, we are re-releasing one of our most popular series: our three-part interview with Carolyn DeFord. In the final installment in our series covering the life of MMIW advocate and daughter of a missing person, Carolyn DeFord, we learn how the disappearance of her mother, Leona Kinsey, has shaped her current world--and work--and the crisis she sees in MMIWCR cases; disappearances and murders are undercounted, underreported, misclassified, and rarely addressed outside action groups and specific political campaigns. Carolyn, and advocates like her, are changing that. And they need your help.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, in honor of National Native American Heritage Day, we are re-releasing one of our most popular series: our three-part interview with Carolyn DeFord. Leona Kinsey disappeared on October 25, 1999; her daughter Carolyn has both searched for answers in her mother’s cold case—and has pondered what she’ll do if she finds what she seeks. Now an adult and an activist for MMIGW, and all missing and murdered Indigenous people through her Facebook group Missing and Murdered Native Americans, Carolyn continues the story of her young adulthood, and recounts the experience of hearing of her mother’s disappearance from a state away. Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Listen To The Vanished’s coverage of Leona’s Case:  https://art19.com/shows/the-vanished-podcast-wondery/episodes/76152ac4-587f-488f-b852-7f33e71cdab3   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters and Kim Fritz/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, in honor of National Native American Heritage Day, we are re-releasing one of our most popular series: our three-part interview with Carolyn DeFord. Carolyn DeFord—MMIWG advocate, Trafficking Project Coordinator for the Puyallup Tribe of Indians, and founder of Missing and Murdered Native Americans Facebook page has another role: daughter of a missing person. In the first of a three-part series, we hear Carolyn’s story—and that of her mother, Leona LeClair Kinsey.   Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Learn about War Cry Podcast: https://twitter.com/warcrypodcast Listen To The Vanished’s coverage of Leona’s Case:  https://art19.com/shows/the-vanished-podcast-wondery/episodes/76152ac4-587f-488f-b852-7f33e71cdab3   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Atypical Homicide researcher Enzo Yaksic shares his perspective on cultural myths regarding the “average” serial killer, what—and who—has skewed our perceptions of serial killers, and why it’s so important that experts, law enforcement, and consumers begin to understand what serial murder is, and how serial murderers operate in the modern age.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Buy Enzo Yaksic’s Killer Data from any retailer or directly from the publisher: https://www.routledge.com/Killer-Data-Modern-Perspectives-on-Serial-Murder/Yaksic/p/book/9780367672706   Go to Uncommongoods.com/FALL to get 15% off your next gift! Sign up today at http://butcherbox.com/FALLLINE and use code FALLLINE to to get free ribeyes for a year plus $10 off. Get 50% off any new system at SIMPLISAFE.com/FALLLINE  today   Go to Framebridge.com and place your order today!    Check out Haley Gray Research: http://haleygrayresearch.com/ Season of Justice: https://seasonofjustice.org/ Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Atypical Homicide researcher Enzo Yaksic shares his perspective on cultural myths regarding the “average” serial killer, what—and who—has skewed our perceptions of serial killers, and why it’s so important that experts, law enforcement, and consumers begin to understand what serial murder is, and how serial murderers operate in the modern age.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Buy Enzo Yaksic’s Killer Data from any retailer or directly from the publisher: https://www.routledge.com/Killer-Data-Modern-Perspectives-on-Serial-Murder/Yaksic/p/book/9780367672706   Go to Uncommongoods.com/FALL to get 15% off your next gift! Sign up today at http://butcherbox.com/FALLLINE and use code FALLLINE to to get free ribeyes for a year plus $10 off. Get 50% off any new system at SIMPLISAFE.com/FALLLINE  today   Go to Framebridge.com and place your order today!    Check out Haley Gray Research: http://haleygrayresearch.com/ Season of Justice: https://seasonofjustice.org/ Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On July 10th, 2010, Larry “LJ” Sanders, Jr., an Edgefield, SC-area father of two, was murdered during a home invasion; his mother, Carolyn Bates, wants to know why, and who, and when someone will be ready to come forward. After all, the North Augusta metro area isn’t large; someone, somewhere, knows something.   Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Thanks again Vessi! Click the link vessi.com and use our code [FALLLINE] for 15% off your entire order! Free shipping to CA, US, AU,JP, TW, KR, SGP   Go to Framebridge.com and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. Sign up today at http://butcherbox.com/FALLLINE and use code FALLLINE to get one 10-14 lb Turkey FREE in your first box.   Check out Haley Gray Research: http://haleygrayresearch.com/ Season of Justice: https://seasonofjustice.org/ Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the early morning hours of September 28, 2015, Joseph Smedley, who was an Indiana University student, chemistry major, and Sigma Pi fraternity brother, sent his sister, Vivanne, a strange late-night text message: she shouldn’t try to contact him—he was leaving the country. Vivianne knew something was wrong; she began a near-week long search for her brother that ended when his body was pulled from a nearby lake. A bookbag weighed down with close to 70 lbs of rock was strapped to his body. Joseph’s death was ruled a suicide, and his case was closed. Today, his sister, Vivianne, and a local Indiana podcaster, Stacy Bridavsky, are working to have his case re-examined.    Thanks again Vessi! Click the link vessi.com and use my code [FALLLINE] for 15% off your entire order! Free shipping to CA, US, AU,JP, TW, KR, SGP   Go to Framebridge.com and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. Sign up today at http://butcherbox.com/FALLLINE and use code FALLLINE to get one 10-14 lb Turkey FREE in your first box. Listen to A Heavy Weight: https://www.aheavyweight.com/ Joseph’s Petition: https://chng.it/2CccgVzCQg Contact A Heavy Weight: [email protected] Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re a show primarily focused on the Southeastern United States, but this week, Kristen Seavey of Murder, She Told walks us through some of New England’s least-known cold cases that are in most need of advocacy and support--and tells us how a victim’s advocate can participate in the genre of true crime to enact change.   Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sign up today at http://butcherbox.com/FALLLINE and use code FALLLINE to get one 10-14 lb Turkey FREE in your first box. Sign Danielle’s Petition: https://chng.it/JzMpG6tZfL Check out Murder, She Told: https://www.murdershetold.com/   Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On Friday, June 7th, 1985, Nashville’s The Fan Fair, also known as “The Country Explosion” was days from its grand opening, and the city was flooded with strangers; the same afternoon, a man named Ricky Lee Franks would return to Nashville, his hometown, and see his family—briefly—before disappearing. Ricky Lee Franks had been living in a group home in Dickson, TN, and no one—not the cold-case detective now assigned to his case, or Ricky’s eldest sister, Sylvia—is quite sure how Ricky made his way back to Nashville that Friday. They also don’t know what happened afterward. . . though there have been leads that have taken investigators across state lines. That’s because years later, his family would hear startling reports of a stranger, calling himself Ricky Franks, traveling across the Southeast.  This two-part series looks at Ricky’s disappearance and Sylvia’s near-40-year-quest to find her brother.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order.   Tickets to The Raymond Green International Outreach Gala: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/a-night-of-unity-black-tie-gala-tickets-404902402987?aff=estw&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-source=tw&utm-term=listing   Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On Friday, June 7th, 1985, Nashville’s The Fan Fair, also known as “The Country Explosion” was days from its grand opening, and the city was flooded with strangers; the same afternoon, a man named Ricky Lee Franks would return to Nashville, his hometown, and see his family—briefly—before disappearing. Ricky Lee Franks had been living in a group home in Dickson, TN, and no one—not the cold-case detective now assigned to his case, or Ricky’s eldest sister, Sylvia—is quite sure how Ricky made his way back to Nashville that Friday. They also don’t know what happened afterward. . . though there have been leads that have taken investigators across state lines. This two-part series looks at Ricky’s disappearance and Sylvia’s near-40-year-quest to find her brother.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box Tickets to The Raymond Green International Outreach Gala: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/a-night-of-unity-black-tie-gala-tickets-404902402987?aff=estw&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-source=tw&utm-term=listing   Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Warner Robins, Georgia is a military town that is attractive to families seeking affordable housing and good schools--and few long-term missing-persons cases. The oldest case on record is the disappearance of Bula Mae Robertson, a local mother who vanished late one night in October of 1993, leaving her teenage daughters and extended family without any sign as to where she might have gone, or what could have happened to her. Now, with the aid of a reward, investigators and Bula’s family hope that her case can be resolved.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions Sponsors: -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part two of this two-part series, we cover the cold-case homicides of Birmingham, Alabama nail-salon owners Jacky Nguyen and Nhut Phan, who were killed in their store just after Christmas in 2010; their daughters, Linda and Thao, discuss possible theories in their parents’ case, and what they’ve learned from authorities in the past 12 years. Thao and Linda want to know: who killed Jacky and Nhut? Was it just a robbery, or was there something more at stake?  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Letter template: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/news-1/2022/8/30/birmingham-letter-template Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Sponsors: -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In part one of this two-part series, we cover the cold-case homicides of Birmingham, Alabama nail-salon owners Jacky Nguyen and Nhut Phan, who were killed in their store just after Christmas in 2010; though their children have long hoped for movement in the case, they’ve been waiting for answers for over a decade. Rumors and lack of communication became a hallmark for their parents’ case: Thao and Linda want to know: who killed Jacky and Nhut? Was it just a robbery, or was there something more at stake?  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Letter template: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/news-1/2022/8/30/birmingham-letter-template Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions  Sponsors: -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After her biological mother, Janice “Becky” LaPlant disappeared during a July 2011 cookout in Lincoln, Alabama, Tracy took on the responsibility of pursuing Becky’s case--and enlisted social media in her search for answers. During the production of this two-part series, Tracy receives news, in real time, that might change everything. Tracy discovered a Jane Doe in Knoxville, TN and was unexpectedly contacted for testing during the making of this episode. This week, we wait for answers, with Tracy, until the last moments before broadcast.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sponsors: -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box   Tracy’s Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@traeshai.official?_t=8UfgvL2lz3u&_r=1 Private Investigations for the Missing: https://investigationsforthemissing.org/ Season of Justice: Application for Victim/Family Funding | Season of Justice Help find Janice Becky LaPlant: https://www.facebook.com/groups/231907555416939   Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Contact Glassbox Media https://glassboxmedia.com/contact-us/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After her estranged biological mother, Janice “Becky” LaPlant disappears during a July 2011 cookout in Lincoln, Alabama, Tracy takes on the responsibility of pursuing Becky’s case--and enlists social media in her search for answers. During the production of this two-part series, Tracy receives news, in real time, that might change everything.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sponsors: -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box   Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kim Fritz, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd and Sarah Turney  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this updated, new, and compact version of our original telling of the case of an unidentified woman discovered in Jenkins County, Georgia, in February 1988, we release details that, prior to our GBI interview and visit in 2019, had never been shared with the public, discuss possible avenues to identification, and even a suspect who was named early on in the investigation.  Photos on our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/news-1/2022/7/26/the-jenkins-county-jane-doe-photos Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box  Remastered interview tape by Scott Stronach  Engineered and Produced by Maura Currie  Special content advisement Katherine Hyon  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this remastered re-release of our 2019 episode on the 1988 Ware County Jane Doe known as “Christmas Doe” and the now-identified former John Doe known as “Dennis Doe,” William DaShawn Hamilton, found in Dekalb County, GA, in 1999. Listen for just-released updates in his case and the full details of both investigations.  Remastered by Scott Stronach  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions  Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We provide updates on our coverage of Julie Doe, an unidentified decedent and probable homicide victim found along a Florida highway in 1988. Julie was a trans woman assumed to be cisgender until 2015; since its inception, the Trans Doe Task Force has worked to amplify her case and actively seek her loved ones and chosen family in hopes of resolving her case. In addition, The DNA Doe Project is actively seeking volunteers to upload their DNA to GEDmatch in hopes of identifying Julie—particularly those who live in the Southeast.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box The Trans Doe Task Force: https://transdoetaskforce.org/ DNA Doe Project: https://dnadoeproject.org/ Redgrave Research: https://redgraveresearch.com/ LAMMP Database: https://transdoetaskforce.org/new-database-lammp-lgbt-accountability-for-missing-and-murdered-persons/ Queered Science Symposium: https://transdoetaskforce.org/queered-science-trans-doe-task-force-at-aafs-2022/ Guide to Gedmatch Upload: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/news-1/2022/7/11/guide-to-uploading-to-gedmatch Content advisement for the update by Lee and Anthony Redgrave  Remastered by Scott Stronach  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Arrests have been made in the 2006 murder of NiShan Huff, whose cold case we covered in the 2020 series Carolina Girls (Episode 3).  Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Carlos Delgado disappeared in 1997, but there’s no formal record of this fact—at least, not one his family can access. Although ICE allegedly holds that information in their internal records, there is no listing for Carlos, who was in the US on a temporary residency visa, with NamUs or any other state or county agency. And that has made tracking him, and publicizing his case, extraordinarily difficult. Add in the circumstances of Carlos’’ life, and his place among the “missing missing,” and his son Hugo and niece Sheila have had a hard road toward seeking help in publicizing his case.  Hugo’s Facebook Page for Carlos: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011382740008   Sheila’s Page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DesaparecidosenTodoMexicoyCentroamerica Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sponsors: -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box   Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Line-editor Bill Bertschinger/ Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Across the United States, major cities are faced with dozens, if not hundreds, of cases of unidentified decedents: Doe cases who, whether they are homicide victims or have died of other means, are people who may represent more than one of DPD’s cold cases: there are many missing-persons reports which could be resolved by matching the deceased to reports of the missing. The problem lies in a lack of readily available DNA evidence; until the mid-2000s, it was not standard procedure to retain such samples, and most major cities have cases dating back well into the 20th century. Detroit, MI is no exception--but they are unique in their solution.  In Detroit, multiple agencies, including the DPD, FBI, medical examiner, and anthropologists from across the state have joined forces as Operation UNITED (Unknown Names Identified Through Exhumation and DNA)--and case by case, they are working to re-identify each victim and return them to their loved ones.  Pre order Laurah’s book LAY THEM TO REST: https://www.hachettebooks.com/titles/laurah-norton/lay-them-to-rest/9780306828805/ Sponsors -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Line-editor Bill Bertschinger/ Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We continue our fascinating discussion on ethics in true crime with Sarah Turney, on topics ranging from leaks in the Delphi case, parasocial relationships in true crime, web sleuthing, family-member creator content, and the future she envisions for true-crime media.  Sarah Turney is the sister of Alissa Turney, an advocate, creator--host of Voices for Justice and Disappearances--and one of the fiercest voices pushing for radical change in true-crime media.  Sarah knows what needs to shift--she saw the worst of true-crime “entertainment” and media attention, and the lack of it, when her sister disappeared in 2001, and has experienced every possible situation family members and survivors face since then: insensitive headlines; misreported information; harassment; stories told thoughtlessly, or without consent, and more.  Sarah is on a mission, not just to team up with others who create what we’ve come to call ethical true crime, but to transform the entire industry for the good of the victims, families, and survivors whose stories it is built upon. In this two-part discussion, we cover some of the most current ethical issues in true crime today.  -Go to https://www.functionofbeauty.com/FALLLINE to take your Hair Goals quiz, and you’ll save 25% on your first order. -Go to https://www.framebridge.com/ and use promo code FALLLINE to save an additional 15% off your first order. -Sign up today at https://www.butcherbox.com/FALLLINE to get a 10-14 lb turkey FREE with your first box   Voices For Justice: https://www.voicesforjusticepodcast.com/ Disappearances: https://open.spotify.com/show/3mKEfFdAOyb9iaBcOwANir True Consequences: https://www.trueconsequences.com/ They Called Her Georgia Lee: https://twitter.com/SolveHerMurder Submit a case to The Fall Line: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/case-submissions   Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Line-editor Bill Bertschinger/ Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd Sources at our website: https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/sources Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefalllinepodcast 2022 All Rights Reserved The Fall Line Podcast, LLC Want to advertise/sponsor our show? We have partnered with AdvertiseCast to handle our advertising/sponsorship requests. They’re great to work with and will help you advertise on our show. Please email [email protected] or click the link below to get started. https://www.advertisecast.com/TheFallLine   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices