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Dave Chang has a few questions. Besides being the chef of the Momofuku restaurants and the creator and host of Netflix’s 'Ugly Delicious,' Dave is an avid student and fan of sports, music, art, film, and, of course, food. In ranging conversations that cover everything from the creative process to his guest’s guiltiest pleasures, Dave and a rotating cast of smart, thought-provoking guests talk about their inspirations, failures, successes, fame, and identities.
On Mental Health and Holding on to Hope, One Year Later | The Dave Chang Show
Just over a year after Anthony Bourdain’s passing, Dave revisits the topic of mental health and speaks about his own battles.
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21:1225/06/2019
Preet Bharara: Sticking to Your Moral Compass | The Dave Chang Show
When Preet Bharara was appointed to be United States attorney for the Southern District of New York, he earned a reputation as one of the most successful prosecutors of Wall Street corruption. Dave speaks to Preet about his tenure as a U.S. attorney and adhering to the duty of carrying out justice.
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01:12:5420/06/2019
Momofuku Kawi Post-Opening Diaries | The Dave Chang Show
We last spoke to chef Eunjo “Jo” Park mere days before the grand opening of Momofuku Kawi in Hudson Yards. Months later, Dave sits down with Jo to discuss all that has happened since the launch.
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01:00:2213/06/2019
Gabriela Cámara: A Titan of Mexican Food | The Dave Chang Show
Gabriela Cámara wears many hats: chef-owner of a handful of iconic restaurants, cookbook author, subject of a Netflix documentary, social justice activist, and mother. She is also an adviser to the president of Mexico and was recently named to the Council of Cultural Diplomacy. Dave speaks to the culinary superstar about her career, Mexican cuisine, and much more.
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01:08:1906/06/2019
Combating the Climate Catastrophe, With David Wallace-Wells | The Dave Chang Show
Since the arrival of his child, Dave has become increasingly concerned with the viability of a tenable future for the next generation. He speaks with David Wallace-Wells, deputy editor of New York Magazine and author of ‘The Uninhabitable Earth,’ about the real danger of climate change that is already damaging humanity.
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01:31:2030/05/2019
Expanding Your Horizons, Literally, With Jada Yuan | The Dave Chang Show
Travel often inspires a changed perspective on the world, especially in relation to the self. Dave speaks with Jada Yuan, the 2018 author of "The 52 Places Traveler" in 'The New York Times,' about her many travels and her takeaways from experiencing different cultures.
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59:3928/05/2019
Cooking As an Art, Vol. 3, With Rirkrit Tiravanija | The Dave Chang Show
The culinary arts may seem to be only nominally related to the arts, but there are more similarities between the food world and the art world than you might think. Having already examined this connection with Jerry Saltz and Roberta Smith, Dave speaks with contemporary artist Rirkrit Tiravanija, whose work literally turns cooking into art.
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01:25:2823/05/2019
Cooking As an Art, Vol. 2, With Roberta Smith | The Dave Chang Show
The culinary arts may seem to be only nominally related to the arts, but there are more similarities between the food world and the art world than you might think. Having examined this connection with Jerry Saltz earlier this year, Dave delves even deeper into these parallels with New York Times chief art critic (and Jerry’s wife!) Roberta Smith.
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01:38:5421/05/2019
Sophistication in Simplicity: Jess Shadbolt and Clare de Boer | The Dave Chang Show
Partnerships are tricky to navigate in any business structure, let alone a kitchen where everyone is bumping shoulders. But Jess Shadbolt and Clare de Boer of NYC's King restaurant work so seamlessly together that their symbiosis outweighs any friction. Dave speaks with the two British chefs about the dynamics of co-running a restaurant and the paradoxical complexity in making seemingly simple dishes.
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01:08:1416/05/2019
Chris Bianco and Chad Robertson: A Culinary Superteam | The Dave Chang Show
It's not often two masters of any craft join forces to collaborate, let alone open up an entire complex together. So when Pizzeria Bianco’s Chris Bianco and Tartine’s Chad Robertson clasped hands to create The Manufactory in Los Angeles, the culinary world lit up with excitement. Dave speaks to them about pioneering in their respective fields and how their partnership came about.
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01:42:3614/05/2019
A Conversation With Grace Chang | The Dave Chang Show
When Dave and Grace first found out they would be parents, they realized nothing mattered more than the arrival of their first child and changed everything in anticipation. A week before Grace gave birth to their son, the Changs discussed the many trials and tribulations of the pregnancy.
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58:2509/05/2019
Momofuku Seiobo: Finding Freedom in Food | The Dave Chang Show
It's difficult to describe Momofuku Seiobo without it sounding a little odd. The three-hatted restaurant is located inside a massive casino in Sydney, Australia. Named after a Japanese goddess, it serves Caribbean cuisine using Australian produce. It's also widely considered one of the country's top restaurants—it's currently ranked the no. 2 restaurant in all of Australia by Gourmet Traveller. Dave speaks with executive chef Paul Carmichael and general manager Kylie Javier Ashton on how the Seiobo team broke through with an atmosphere of freedom and independence.
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01:05:4207/05/2019
Mina Kimes on the Korean American Experience and the NFL | The Dave Chang Show
Dave speaks to ESPN senior writer Mina Kimes about the unique experience of growing up Korean American, the paradox of being an NFL fan, and Asian representation in sports media.
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01:20:2302/05/2019
Joe Beef: Staying True to Yourself and Being Damn Good at It | The Dave Chang Show
Joe Beef is an unassuming, casual restaurant in Montreal, Quebec. The humble Little Burgundy establishment resembles more of an laid-back tavern than a renowned fine dining institution. And yet it is considered Montreal’s most famous restaurant, if not Canada’s most famous restaurant. Dave speaks with chef-owners David McMillan and Frédéric Morin on how they preserved a genuine personality in their food while achieving excellence.
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01:23:5725/04/2019
The Ethics of Meat Eating With Steven Rinella | The Dave Chang Show
Hunting and fishing are hot-button topics in the United States. Some embrace them as valuable parts of culture, and some view them as archaic or even inhumane. Dave speaks with renowned outdoorsman Steven Rinella on the ethical debate surrounding meat consumption, the paradoxical symbiosis of hunting and wildlife conservation, and how it all relates to food production.
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01:05:4718/04/2019
Creating Community in Counterculture With Eric Koston | The Dave Chang Show
Iconic street skateboarder Eric Koston turned pro at just 16 years old. Now at 43, he still skates professionally and is an active participant in skating culture. Dave spoke with Eric from the Uber Eats House during SXSW about his big night out in Austin, fostering a community within the counterculture movement, and the parallels between cooking and skating.
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01:05:0711/04/2019
Aaron Franklin: the Master Craftsman of Barbecue | The Dave Chang Show
In 2009, when Aaron Franklin and his wife Stacy opened up a barbecue trailer on the side of a highway in Austin, Texas, they had no idea it would snowball into one of the most popular barbecue restaurants in the nation. But Franklin Barbecue wouldn't have become what it is without Aaron’s unwavering commitment to hard work and dedication. A decade removed from the Austin institution’s humble beginnings, Dave speaks with the world-class pitmaster from the Uber Eats House during SXSW about transfusing love and care into cooking, making an intentional effort to maintain work-life balance, and growing the restaurant through failure.
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01:12:5304/04/2019
Defying Conventional Wisdom With Outdoor Voices CEO Ty Haney | The Dave Chang Show
In 2013, the activewear market seemed oversaturated, dominated by titans like Nike and Adidas. But in spite of the prevailing wisdom, Ty Haney saw a way to break into that market and founded Outdoor Voices. She was 25 years old. Dave speaks with the OV founder from the Uber Eats House during SXSW about trailblazing in a seemingly too-crowded field and parlaying failure into success, and about their shared experience of being young entrepreneurs.
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01:11:1428/03/2019
Hasan Minhaj on Comedy As a Conduit | The Dave Chang Show
Dave sits down with ‘Patriot Act’ host Hasan Minhaj to discuss how he learned to embrace his cultural heritage, the similarities between food and comedy, and using entertainment to make a difference.
‘Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj’ Volume 2 is available now on Netflix.
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01:12:4221/03/2019
Momofuku Kawi Pre-Opening Diaries, Vol. 2 | The Dave Chang Show
Eunjo “Jo” Park spent most of her adult life learning to be a good cook. But she never had to learn about being a good chef. In the second of a two-part interview, Dave speaks with Jo about learning from failure and finding an authentic identity for the restaurant.
The new Momofuku Kawi in Hudson Yards opens today, March 15.
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41:3915/03/2019
Momofuku Kawi Pre-Opening Diaries, Vol. 1 | The Dave Chang Show
Eunjo “Jo” Park turned down many opportunities to manage her own restaurant in order to focus on cooking. Now the executive chef of the new Momofuku Kawi, she finds herself melding her fine dining background with her Korean American heritage. In the first of a two-part interview, Dave speaks with Jo about her path: from immersing herself in Western cuisine and coming back around to Korean cuisine.
The new Momofuku Kawi in Hudson Yards opens on March 15.
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58:0714/03/2019
Cooking As an Art, With Jerry Saltz | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 43)
The culinary arts may seem to be only nominally related to the arts, but there are more similarities between the food world and the art world—in both abstract and concrete ways—than you might think. Dave speaks with Pulitzer Prize–winning art critic Jerry Saltz about these parallels.
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01:29:3228/02/2019
Breaking the Ceiling on Breakfast, With Jessica Koslow | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 42)
Simple, easy, approachable—these are words that may be used to describe dishes at Sqirl. But the Los Angeles–based cafe did not become one of the most popular restaurants in the city by making dishes in a simple, easy, or approachable fashion. Dave speaks to Sqirl’s chef and owner, Jessica Koslow, about pioneering in breakfast cuisine, the bias against "common" foods, and influencing the rest of the food world.
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01:05:5221/02/2019
What Makes the Best Food the Best? With Lolis Elie | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 41)
People have subjective definitions when it comes to quality, and food is no exception. To compare one genre of food to another often requires nuance and context, making the whole endeavor that much more difficult. Dave speaks to writer and food critic Lolis Elie about how to evaluate food with care and respect.
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01:16:3214/02/2019
Why You Should Go to Spoon by H | The Dave Chang Show
Spoon by H is an unassuming dessert café located in a strip mall near central Los Angeles. Yet Dave named it his 2018 restaurant of the year on this very podcast. In this micropod, Dave sits down with his producer, Isaac Lee, to explain what makes the Korean American family business so special.
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16:5812/02/2019
Challenging the Status Quo in Cooking and in Basketball, With Kevin O’Connor | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 40)
The NBA has gone through a significant revolution in the past decade, prioritizing efficiency over tradition. The result? A wildly popular league that garners more attention than ever before. Dave sits down with Ringer basketball analyst Kevin O’Connor to compare embracing innovation in the NBA and in the culinary world.
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01:08:0707/02/2019
What Hip-Hop Can Tell Us About Food, With Shad | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 39)
The genre of hip-hop music may seem to have little to do with the culinary world, yet there are parallels between the two that dovetail surprisingly well. Dave draws these parallels out with the help of musician and ’Hip-Hop Evolution’ host Shad.
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01:10:5431/01/2019
The Chef as a Leader, With Adam Grant | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 38)
Being a chef is a lot more than just cooking; it requires the ability to manage a kitchen and everyone who works in it. Dave learned the hard way that he needed to control his infamous temper in order to excel as a leader. He discusses this and much more with renowned organizational psychologist and three-time New York Times best-selling author Adam Grant.
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01:05:1524/01/2019
René Redzepi: The Relentless Innovator | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 37)
Noma has been considered one of the greatest restaurants in the world for over a decade. Dave’s longtime friend, Noma head chef and co-owner René Redzepi, takes us through how the Danish restaurant flourished with its extraordinary dedication to reinventing Nordic cuisine.
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01:10:1817/01/2019
Looking Back and Moving Forward | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 36)
So much has happened to Dave in 2018. Here are his thoughts, unfiltered.
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49:1710/01/2019
Majordomo Post-opening Diaries, Vol. 2: Back of House | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 35)
As the first year of Majordomo draws to a close, Dave sits down with his key staffers at the Los Angeles restaurant to review the journey since launch. This week, he speaks with the back-of-house leaders: executive chef Jude Parra-Sickels and chef de cuisine Marc Johnson.
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55:2527/12/2018
Majordomo Post-opening Diaries, Vol. 1: Front of House | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 34)
As the first year of Majordomo draws to a close, Dave sits down with his key staffers at the Los Angeles restaurant to review the journey since launch. This week, he speaks with the front-of-house leaders: general manager Christine Larroucau and beverage director Richard Hargreave.
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01:08:1520/12/2018
Food Trends of 2018 With Bill Simmons | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 33)
This year has been a memorable one for food; Dave reviews 2018’s biggest food developments with the help of the Podfather, Bill Simmons. And, of course, they talk about some sports too.
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01:04:3613/12/2018
Jeremy Fox Tells His Story | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 32)
Chef Jeremy Fox reinvented cooking with vegetables at Ubuntu. But the recognition and accolades, in both earning and receiving, were not without their costs. Dave speaks to the ingenious chef about finding balance and returning to the culinary world.
You can find Fox’s new cookbook, ‘On Vegetables,’ wherever books are sold.
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01:11:0206/12/2018
Embracing Cultural Identity With Jon M. Chu | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 31)
‘Crazy Rich Asians’ is a worldwide phenomenon, the sixth highest-grossing rom-com of all time, and a cultural touchstone for many East Asians. But for its director, Jon M. Chu, the road to creating the first major Hollywood film with an all-Asian cast in 25 years meant coming face-to-face with his own heritage.
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01:31:3129/11/2018
Joshua Skenes: The Maverick of Cooking | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 30)
Saison chef Joshua Skenes didn’t become one of the greatest chefs in the world by reading a textbook or by chasing accolades. All that mattered was the food.
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02:02:1015/11/2018
Steven Yeun: Exploring and Embracing the Korean American Duality | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 29)
Filming ’Burning’ allowed actor Steven Yeun to grapple with being in South Korea as a Korean American (9:07), the unique Korean sentiment of “Han” (22:22), and the expectations to represent Asian America (54:20) … all of which Dave can relate to.
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01:11:4508/11/2018
Challenging the Status Quo in Cooking and in Football With Kevin Clark | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 28)
Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang sits down with Ringer NFL writer Kevin Clark to compare the tension between progress and orthodoxy in the culinary arts to a similar dissonance in the NFL.
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40:5301/11/2018
Evan Kleiman: Telling the Story of Food | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 27)
Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang sits down with 'Good Food' host Evan Kleiman to discuss growing up as a food lover in Los Angeles (1:20), innovation in dining during the '70s and '80s (23:24), the trials and tribulations of operating a restaurant (40:26), and moving on from being a restaurateur (59:04).
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01:29:0825/10/2018
Ike Barinholtz: Restoring a Frayed Nation, One Movie at a Time | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 26)
Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang is joined by comedian-turned-filmmaker Ike Barinholtz to discuss the uniqueness of the Thanksgiving meal (7:37), how politics bleeds into culture at large (24:43), and finding pragmatism in a fractured discourse (44:24).
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01:02:1218/10/2018
Making Sense of Modern Politics With John Heilemann | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 25)
Chef and Momofuku founder David Chang sits down with political journalist John Heilemann to discuss Brett Kavanaugh’s controversial appointment to the Supreme Court (4:11) and the future for the United States government (40:12).
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01:06:2911/10/2018
Khabib-McGregor Reactions With Kevin Clark | The Dave Chang Show
In this micro-pod, chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang sits down with The Ringer’s Kevin Clark to relive the fight between Khabib Nurmagomedov and Conor McGregor at UFC 229 and the ensuing brawl.
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17:1809/10/2018
Finding Purpose in Cooking: Dan Giusti of Brigaid | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 24)
Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang sits down with Brigaid chef Dan Giusti to discuss how Giusti’s career led up to becoming head chef at Noma (4:37) and leaving the top position at one of the world’s greatest restaurants to service more people (36:24).
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01:08:5704/10/2018
From Cooking Prodigy to Culinary Artist: Jessica Largey | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 23)
Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang sits down with Simone chef Jessica Largey to discuss her extraordinary ascent as a prodigious cook in elite kitchens (0:47), developing an artistic voice with food (51:12), and transitioning to opening a restaurant (1:07:30).
Largey's new restaurant, Simone, is now open in Los Angeles’s Arts District at 449 S. Hewitt St.
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01:23:5927/09/2018
Christina Tosi of Milk Bar, Part 2 | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 22)
Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang is joined by Milk Bar founder Christina Tosi to recount her experience working under Wylie Dufresne (1:36), how she helped advance Momofuku (14:05), and the trials and tribulations of opening the first Milk Bar (38:22).
Milk Bar's new Los Angeles flagship store opens this Saturday, September 22, and will be located at 7150 Melrose Ave.
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48:1121/09/2018
Christina Tosi of Milk Bar, Part 1 | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 21)
Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang is joined by Milk Bar founder Christina Tosi to discuss the unique challenge of opening a new restaurant (6:37), fostering creative innovation in the kitchen (20:56), and developing a work ethic in high-pressure environments (31:56).
Milk Bar's new Los Angeles flagship store opens this Saturday, September 22, and will be located at 7150 Melrose Ave.
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01:03:5020/09/2018
Vivek Garipalli on the Power of Taking Risks | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 20)
Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang is joined by cofounder and CEO of Clover Health Vivek Garipalli to discuss how he overcame those who underestimated him (16:56), the power of taking risks when you're young (20:12), and what he learned from buying a hospital and going into the health care business (36:07).
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01:04:0813/09/2018
Revolutionizing Japanese Cuisine in America With David Schlosser | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 19)
Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang is joined by Shibumi chef David Schlosser to discuss Schlosser’s advanced career leading up to working in Japan (0:56), learning the highest forms of Japanese fine dining as a foreigner (33:43), and challenging the expectations of Japanese food in the United States (53:31).
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01:20:1906/09/2018
David Choe Tells His Story | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 18)
Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang is joined by artist David Choe along with HBO and The Ringer’s Bill Simmons to explore Choe’s extraordinary life.
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02:23:4430/08/2018
JJ Redick on L.A. vs NYC, Food-Sports Parallels, and Challenging Norms | The Dave Chang Show (Ep. 17)
Chef and Momofuku founder Dave Chang is joined by Philadelphia 76ers guard JJ Redick to discuss the Los Angeles–New York debate (1:05) and the parallels between restaurant management and professional sports (15:00). Then, J.J. turns the tables and asks Dave about the future of the culinary industry and the best food destinations (28:12) before examining the evolution of the modern NBA and how it demonstrates the value of challenging established conventions (40:11).
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54:3323/08/2018