Have you ever considered quitting your job outright because you felt like you were being pulled farther and farther away from your calling? And then finding your way back through a career change that's very different?Join Jasmine Singh, former Chief Legal and People Officer at Binti, as she shares lessons she learned after taking time away from the legal profession about how to recalibrate your career to align with your principles and passions, and how a year instructing a spin class landed her the in-house role that led her all the way to the executive suite.Listen as Jasmine discusses knowing when it’s the right time to quit, how to rely on your network and give back back to your community, realigning your career to match your values, getting your foot in the door as in-house counsel, and much more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-67Topics:Introduction: 0:00Why Jasmine chose to become a lawyer: 2:36Knowing when to take a break: 5:50Teaching spin classes: 14:06Getting your first in-house role at 24 Hour Fitness: 18:26How to position yourself during an in-house job interview: 21:36Transitioning into tech counsel: 25:29Explaining Binti and it’s mission: 30:59Fulfilling a philanthropic mission with Dincert Movement: 36:22Tips for people who feel stuck at work: 40:29Rapid-fire questions: 42:54Book recommendations: 44:19What Jasmine wishes she’d known as a young lawyer: 47:35Connect with us:Jasmine Singh - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasmine-singh-b4a25274/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

What is the transition like from government service to a C-suite leadership role at a cutting edge tech company? How are regulators thinking about crypto and other financial innovations? And is public service something that's still inspiring or something that we ought to aspire to?Join Heath Tarbert, Chief Legal Officer and Head of Corporate Affairs at Circle, as he draws on his extensive and prodigious career in public service–serving as Chair of the Commodity Futures Trading Commision, associate White House counsel, Supreme Court clerk, special counsel to the Senate Banking Committee, and more–to break down the legal side and wide-ranging impacts of financial markets around the globe.Listen as Heath discusses the intersection between law, finance, and public policy, the future of cryptocurrency, the value of humility, and much more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-67Topics:Introduction: 0:00Building a career around banking and financial markets: 8:53Being picked to lead the Commodity Futures Trading Commission: 16:50Advice to young people considering careers in politics and public service: 22:13Breaking down CFTC regulation of cryptocurrencies: 30:17Why the CFTC chose to engage with cryptocurrencies: 37:26Why Heath joined Circle as Chief Legal Officer: 41:40Should lawyers move beyond legal into business operator roles?: 47:15Rapid-fire questions: 49:16Book recommendations: 53:31What Heath wishes he’d known as a young lawyer: 55:21Connect with us:Heath Tarbert - https://www.linkedin.com/in/heath-tarbert-b2140a15/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

What lessons from tennis can you apply to your day-to-day life? How do you build a career as a dealmaker working with high-profile talent? How has the entertainment industry, and what it needs from its lawyers, changed over the years?Join Peter Steckelman, Senior Vice President of Business and Legal Affairs at the Tennis Channel, as he shares stories from his uniquely wide-ranging career in entertainment law, including working in-house work at Disney, Fox Entertainment, Warner Brothers, Mattel, and Konami.Listen as Peter serves up stories about his lifelong love for tennis, negotiating with celebrity athletes, and the joys of working in film, television, video games, streaming, and more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-66Topics:Introduction: 0:00Starting his career in-house at Disney: 9:59How to work with creative people: 20:45What role does creativity play in the legal field?: 24:31Working as a studio executive at video game developer Konami: 28:44Putting together talent agreements with celebrity athletes: 30:51Leading legal at the Tennis Channel: 39:45What playing tennis has taught Peter about being a lawyer: 44:49Rapid-fire questions: 47:30Book recommendations: 49:10What Peter wishes he’d known as a young lawyer: 49:50Connect with us:Peter Steckelman - https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-steckelman-entertainment-sports-professional/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

Do general counsels need to care about geopolitics? Is now the right time to start a legal tech company? And should you consider growing your team in a place other than Silicon Valley, like Rwanda?Join Sean West, Co-Founder at Hence Technologies and writer at Geolegal.substack.com, as he explains how he became a geopolitical forecaster for corporations and hedge funds at Eurasia Group, then chose to co-found a tech company that brings geopolitical insights to general counsels and executives at a time of rising international volatility.Listen as Sean explains why CEOs are becoming chief geopolitical officers, why government affairs teams are increasingly falling under the purview of the general counsel, how he develops his predictions in a constantly changing world, and more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-65Topics:Introduction: 0:00Tyler asks about the Eurasia Group: 3:51Tyler asks how Sean learned to trust his gut: 8:18Tyler asks why general counsels should care about geopolitics: 10:49Tyler asks how general counsels can get better at handling political risks: 15:59Tyler asks whether CEOs have to be politicians: 22:10Tyler asks about building Hence Technologies in Rwanda: 31:46Tyler asks about starting your own business: 35:03Tyler asks about the future of Hence Technologies: 41:41Tyler asks rapid-fire questions: 43:23Book recommendations: 45:19Tyler asks what Sean wishes he’d known as a young researcher: 47:25Connect with us:Sean West - https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanpwest1/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

As top legal leaders across a variety of industries, our podcast guests are no strangers to building teams from scratch and scaling them to adapt to the needs of a rapidly expanding business.  Listen as we share some of our favorite words of advice from past episodes about hiring and growing elite legal teams from some of the most seasoned general counsels and executives working today. Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-64   Topics: You’re starting a leadership role at a new company. What’s your first move?: 0:06 You’re about to go public. How do you build an expert international legal team from scratch?: 2:51 How do you prepare your legal team to be the next generation of GCs and legal leaders?: 8:06 How do you prepare your domestic legal team for an international expansion?: 10:41 How do you bring in the right talent to build out your legal team?: 15:41 How do you identify whether a candidate has the skills they need to succeed on your legal team?: 18:17 How do you keep your team motivated to stay on during moments of crisis, like the Covid-19 pandemic?: 23:24   Connect with us:  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft   SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues.   Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How can the general counsel become a true partner to the executive team? How about in the context of a public company? How can the general counsel ensure that that same can-do attitude that they bring to the table pervades the rest of their legal team?Join Matt Campobasso, General Counsel at Enfusion, as he shares stories and lessons from his unique legal career: starting as a prosecutor outside of Chicago, litigating at a firm for more than a decade and becoming partner, then transitioning to in-house and leading legal at a publicly-traded fintech company.Listen as Matt discusses how his time in the courtroom shaped his approach to in-house legal, how to build a department of independent, driven lawyers, cultivating a business mindset in your team, and more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-63Topics:Introduction: 0:00Tyler asks about his career as an Illinois prosecutor: 1:36Tyler asks what inspired Matt to be a prosecutor: 4:32Tyler asks about transitioning in-house roles in tech: 16:33Tyler asks about managing work relationships after you become general counsel: 24:15Tyler asks about instilling a business mindset in a legal team: 29:56Tyler on hiring lawyers with an owner’s mindset: 37:32Tyler asks fun questions: 43:50Book recommendations: 49:22What Matt wish he knew as a young lawyer: 52:16Connect with us:Matt Campobasso - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrc1921/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How can corporate leaders make compliance training entertaining enough that their employees will pay attention? How do you know if compliance training is effective? What has a founder in this space learned about building for and selling to HR and legal?Join Roxanne Petraeus, Co-Founder and CEO of Ethena, as she discusses how her company is changing compliance training by making it more personalised, effective, role-based, and specific to scenarios happening in her clients’ companies. Starting her career as an officer in the U.S. Army, she made the leap from consultant to founder and built a platform that saves time, engages distracted employees, and satisfies regulators.Listen as Roxanne discusses why content is as important as technology, how to measure the success of compliance training, the value of balancing quantitative data with qualitative feedback, and how her company is leveraging AI to better serve their clients, and more.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-62Topics:Introduction: 0:00Finding the inspiration to serve in the military: 1:30Leaving McKinsey & Company to found Ethena: 6:25Scaling up content quality alongside technology: 9:04What companies are getting wrong about in-house training and how to make a change: 11:44Measuring the success of a new compliance training: 13:34Going beyond boring or cringy compliance trainings: 16:45Observing new trends in compliance training: 20:40Leveraging AI as the founder of a tech company: 23:16Comparing compliance issues and needs between small companies and enterprise clients: 29:02Mapping the future for Ethena: 31:50Favorite part of your day and pet peeves: 34:12Book recommendations: 35:50What you wish you’d known as a young founder: 36:58Connect with us:Roxanne Petraeus - https://www.linkedin.com/in/roxanne-bras-petraeus-2292b8109/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

What skill set should the Chief of Staff to a Chief Legal Officer of a major international corporation need? How do you build trust with a Chief Operating Officer? How do you cultivate the right culture with a large legal and compliance team?Join Zoe McMahon, Chief of Staff, VP of Legal Strategy and Operations at HP, as she shares stories and lessons from her thirty-year career at the world’s second largest computer manufacturer. Starting her career in environmental responsibility, Zoe has transferred her skills to a diverse roster of teams, including HP’s global human rights office, privacy, and legal operations.Listen as Zoe discusses how she drives change from within, why she loves working on the forefront of developing legal and business fields, her fascination with long-term change, why she values strong relationships, and more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-61Topics:Introduction: 0:00Tyler asks about starting a career in environmental issues: 2:02How do you advocate for the environment from within a company?: 4:04How do you resource responsibly?: 5:02Why Zoe moved into privacy: 8:03Can you build credibility without a JD?: 9:25Should you change career trajectories? 12:55What does the Chief of Staff to HP’s Chief Legal Officer do?: 19:36How do you build strong relationships at work?: 23:57What part of HP’s culture is Zoe proudest of?: 26:41Fun questions: 30:30Book recommendations: 34:02What Zoe wish she know when she was getting started: 40:04Connect with us:Zoe McMahon - https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoe-mcmahon-44074814/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

Where's the intersection in a career as a creative and as a lawyer? What stories would you tell if you were writing a play about your career in startup law? How do you go and convince some accomplished actors to sign up and perform it off-broadway?  Join Sarah Feingold, the legal expert and playwright behind Dirty Legal Secrets: Based on True Startups—running Off-Broadway this October in New York City—as she shares her experience collecting and staging anonymous stories from startup lawyers that they can’t tell themselves. She leveraged her own experience as the first general counsel at start-ups Etsy and Vroom.   Listen as Sarah discusses how she leveraged her own experience as the first general counsel at start-ups Etsy and Vroom to tell other lawyers’ brave legal stories, how to balance your creative pursuits with legal work, how to expand beyond in-house to advise, teach, and join boards, and much more.  Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-60   Topics: Introduction: 0:00 Becoming Etsy’s first lawyer (and 17th hire): 2:48 Transitioning to General Counsel at Vroom: 6:57 Writing a play: 9:18Getting started on your first draft: 13:59 Finding actors and producing your own play: 16:52 Learning to promote yourself after a career in legal: 19:54 Staging Dirty Legal Secrets: 21:37 Keeping your creative spirit alive while working full-time: 25:28 Leaning into a “portfolio” career: 28:20 Favorite part of your day and pet peeves: 30:13 Book recommendations: 31:24 What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 33:21Cellunova Productions presents Dirty Legal Secrets  October 17-27, NYC Buy tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dirty-legal-secrets-tickets-1001791825317  Connect with us: Sarah Feingold: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahfeingold/  Tyler Finn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft  SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues.  Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you turn your passion for sports into a career? What does it take to advise pro athletes and celebrities on investments and deals? And how can you start to angel invest yourself?Sunjay Mathews, investor, advisor, and dealmaker in the sports and media sector, was able to make the leap from in-house counsel at FanDuel and DAZN, the biggest names in sports betting and streaming, into a legal and business consulting powerhouse. With his deep understanding of the complex (and often outdated) regulations surrounding sports betting, he began leading at the intersection of crypto and athletics, advising on sports partnerships with FTX and investing in blockchain-reliant companies like BetDex, and joining the board of tixbase.Listen as Sunjay shares lessons from his career at the cutting edge of burgeoning industries, dealmaking with pro athletes, getting started as an angel investor, and more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-59Topics:Introduction: 0:00Transitioning from law associate to sports legal advisor at FanDuel: 3:40Dealing with anachronistic regulations in the sports betting industry: 6:47Moving into streaming at DAZN: 10:39Getting a start as an independent advisor: 21:47Dealmaking with pro athletes and celebrities: 26:08Getting started as an angel investor: 34:12Consulting on sports marketing with FTX and getting involved with crypto: 38:06Investing and advising companies like BetDEX, tixbase, and Just Women’s Sports: 42:20Uplifting Just Women’s Sports: 49:35What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 57:11Connect with us:Sunjay Mathews: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunjay-mathews-b227a723/Tyler Finn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How should General Counsel and legal teams be leveraging generative AI? How do you get started on your AI journey and what mistakes should you avoid? Where is the AI revolution heading?Join Cecilia Ziniti, Founder and CEO of GC AI, as she discusses how and why she made the leap from working as a corporate lawyer to creating a generative AI product specifically designed for in-house counsel. Find out how her years leading legal for AI-powered tech companies like Replit, Anki, and Cruise (and serving as lead counsel on Amazon’s Alexa) prepared her to create a company offering a groundbreaking product that serves the various needs of lawyers with precision and care.Listen as Cecilia discusses the similarities between lawyers and large language models, how to begin experimenting with generative AI with the goal of making both your professional and personal life smoother, why you can’t let others tell you you’re “just” a lawyer, and why legal professionals should always use emojis.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-58Topics:Introduction: 0:00Leading legal at Replit: 2:52Why lawyers should use emojis: 5:40Starting a business after gaining extensive experience working with AI: 13:00Considering how GCs should leverage AI: 22:18Hiring legal teams in the age of AI: 39:03Teaching a class on AI at Stanford University: 47:35Book Recommendations: 51:52What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 55:11Connect with us:Cecilia Ziniti - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ceciliaziniti/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

Join Jules Polonetsky, CEO and Founder of the Future of Privacy Forum, as he shares lessons he learned from the front lines of ad tech starting in the early 1990s. Starting his career in politics as a New York assemblyman and working his way into consumer protection-focused public roles, he became one of the first chief privacy officers in the tech industry at companies like DoubleClick and AOL at a crucial moment in the history of online privacy. Now his think tank connects policymakers with corporations, and helps both sides answer tough questions about privacy and data.Join Jules Polonetsky, CEO and Founder of the Future of Privacy Forum, as he shares lessons he learned from the front lines of ad tech starting in the early 1990s. Starting his career in politics as a New York assemblyman and working his way into consumer protection-focused public roles, he became one of the first chief privacy officers in the tech industry at companies like DoubleClick and AOL at a crucial moment in the history of online privacy. Now his think tank connects policymakers with corporations and helps both sides answer tough questions about privacy and data.Listen as Jules discusses his uniquely-positioned understanding of privacy issues, the future of AI governance and the chief privacy officer role, advice to lawyers who want to move into the privacy space, and much more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-57Topics:Introduction: 0:00Getting a start in New York politics: 1:57Running for elected office: 11:46Taking one of the first Chief Privacy Officer roles in the industry at DoubleClick: 16:43Considering the necessary training to be successful in privacy: 24:28Founding the Future of Privacy Forum: 32:02Questioning the death of the Chief Privacy Officer role: 44:42Favorite part of your day-to-day work and professional pet peeves: 51:54Book recommendations: 56:41What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 1:00:01Connect with us:Jules Polonetsky: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julespolonetsky/Tyler Finn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

Can playing cards teach you to be a better lawyer? How do you make it in Silicon Valley without the traditional big law firm experience? And how do you make the jump to public company general counsel?Join Andrew Woods, General Counsel at PubMatic, as he discusses the unique path he forged from professional poker player to legal star. From founding a think tank at Harvard focused on poker and law to breaking into tech and privacy as Director of Legal and Associate Counsel at Twitter, Andrew relies on his belief in the value of autonomy, mastery, and significance to guide him towards work that makes him happiest.Listen as Andrew discusses his love for game theory, landing a fulfilling job leading legal at a tech company, hiring lawyers based on their ambitions instead of their experience, and more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-56Topics:Introduction: 0:00Starting your career as a professional poker player: 1:33Comparing poker skills with skills required to succeed as general counsel: 6:10Taking an unorthodox path after law school: 13:02Transitioning to in-house roles in tech: 17:12Moving away from skill questions in the hiring process: 22:52Developing mastery over fields like privacy and ad tech: 29:05Breaking into privacy: 33:18Considering the future of AI governance from a privacy perspective: 36:37Making the jump to Twitter and PubMatic: 39:21Book recommendations: 54:23What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 57:23Connect with us:Andrew Woods - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmichaelwoods/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you make the leap from lawyer to founder? How do you craft the perfect pitch? What does it take to fundraise effectively? And how far will your legal know-how take you when you’re accountable for every function in the business?Join Aaron Gregory, Co-founder and CEO of Upwardli, as he shares his journey from general counsel to start-up leader. Starting his career in the highly regulated telecom and fintech industries, Aaron relied on lessons he learned while earning his JD-MBA to start a company that solves the challenges of credit invisibility for more than 50 million people in the United States.Listen as Aaron discusses how he took on the challenges that all first-time founders face–like pitching to VCs, fundraising, and growing into the CEO role—and shifted his mindset from that of a risk-conscious legal leader to a business-focused operator.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-55Topics:Introduction: 0:00Forging a career in highly regulated legal areas: 1:25Advice to law students considering a JD-MBA: 7:20Teaching yourself to become comfortable with uncertainty: 9:57Leaving Remitly right before it went public to found a start-up: 15:10Unpacking Upwardli: 18:42Bringing your business to a start-up accelerator: 22:26Fundraising for your start-up: 27:05Making an effective pitch: 33:15Growing into the CEO role: 36:16Building Upwardli in Milwaukee, Wisconsin: 44:43Bonus questions: 48:48Book recommendations: 51:29What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 53:02Connect with us:Aaron Gregory - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amgregory/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How can C-suite leaders take on challenging political issues that affect their company? How do you pursue a path of professional growth at a company over the course of a decade? What's required for taking on wide-ranging responsibilities at the executive level?Join Kristin Sverchek, President of Lyft, as she discusses how she joined a small start-up as their first general counsel and grew with it as it transformed into a global ride-sharing powerhouse with a multi-billion dollar IPO.Listen as she discusses the unexpected management challenges she faced and conquered internally as her role expanded beyond legal, as well as the external challenges of taking strong stances to protect her drivers in the face of adverse political climates. She also offers advice for lawyers looking to expand beyond the legal function and shares stories about innovating in industries where regulations haven’t been updated in over a century.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-54Topics:Introduction: 0:00Finding your way to Lyft: 3:51Taking on your first GC role at Lyft: 6:23Building a legal team at a rapidly growing start-up: 8:23Helping lead the IPO process: 10:48Comparing work at public and private companies: 14:39Dealing with the challenges of executive roles: 17:20Transitioning into the President of Business Affairs role: 21:45Working with an executive coach during major career transitions: 26:08Advice to lawyers who want to take on GC “plus” roles: 27:56Defining and living your values at Lyft: 30:30Taking on the role of President: 35:58Departing Lyft: 38:42Book recommendation: 45:52What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 46:58Connect with us:Kristin Sverchek: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinsverchek/Tyler Finn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

What do you need to know if you're ready to launch a government affairs strategy? How do you find the right lobbyist? And how has lobbying for tech companies changed over the last decade?Join Matt Tanielian, Co-founder of Franklin Square Group, a bipartisan government relations, as he shares key insights from his decades of experience advocating for tech companies and bridging the gap between Silicon Valley and Washington. D.C. From advising senators on foundation internet legislation like the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and the Microsoft antitrust investigation, to lobbying for Apple as it launched its first iPhone in 2008, Matt has been instrumental to tech firms as they navigate the intricacies of Capitol Hill.Listen as Matt discusses how to work with politicians and government relations consultants, the value of joining coalitions and trade associations, the future of AI policy, and much more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-53Topics:Introduction: 0:00Attending law school in Washington, D.C.: 3:51Working for a committee vs. working for a congressperson: 5:05Questioning whether policy work requires a law degree: 7:12Launching your own government relations firm: 10:17Analyzing the evolving conversation around around tech in Washington: 13:15Hiring your company’s first government relations consultant: 15:35Joining and organizing coalitions and industry organizations: 20:58Choosing who will represent your company in D.C.: 26:20Avoiding common mistakes: 28:30Envisioning the future of AI policy: 30:32Advising companies during an election year: 34:42Tracking the changing nature of lobbying: 36:09Book recommendations: 38:14Lobbying vs. government relations: 40:23What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 42:47Connect with us:Matt Tanielian - https://www.linkedin.com/in/matttanielian/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you raise nine figures in financing in twelve hours as the first Twitter-fueled bank run is happening around you and you feel the pressure of hundreds and thousands of employees depending on your ability to finish the deal so their paychecks clear?Join Vanessa Wu, GC at Rippling, as she relives the moment her company overcame the disastrous collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and pulled through some lightning-fast deals to protect the income of the clients whose paychecks depend on them. Her department’s hard work turned a catastrophe into a boon to their company’s reputation, both with product users and investors.Listen as Vanessa offers a masterclass in getting financing and deals over the finish line in record time, with tips on moving through the diligence process, keeping fees low, and why it's essential for lawyers to close as quickly as possible.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-52Topics: Introduction: 0:00Becoming a top dealmaker at LiveRamp: 1:33Moving quickly to close deals: 7:06Offering operational solutions to small and medium businesses at Rippling: 10:08Surviving the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank: 23:14Collaborating with finance as a legal team: 36:21Tips for a fast and low-fee financing deal-making process: 40:54Favorite parts of day-to-day work: 41:54Book recommendations: 44:22What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 45:28Connect with us: Vanessa Wu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessa-wu-7363359/  Tyler Finn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft  SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues.   Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

What do you need to know if you're considering taking on the people function? What's the difference between a chief people officer and a CHRO? And are GCs well-positioned to take on both of these roles simultaneously?Rachel Olchowka, Former Chief People Officer and General Counsel at Fetch and current Chief Administrative Officer at Prizm Insurance, had no hesitations when she volunteered to operate a complex, metrics-driven people function in addition to her responsibilities leading in-house legal at a fast-paced organization. Not only did she learn how to do both roles—she learned how to do them well.Listen as Rachel shares how she was able to find balance between two very different executive positions, know whether expanding into a people role is right for you, establish a game-changing comprehensive parental leave plan, craft culture within a company and executive team, and more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-51Topics:Introduction: 0:00Taking on the chief people officer role while serving as general counsel at Fetch: 2:25The difference between CPOs and CHROs: 5:25Encountering pushback from the executive team on HR policies: 9:01Crafting culture within an executive team: 12:35Establishing a comprehensive parental leave plan: 14:53Approaching the hiring process as a CPO: 19:38Comparing in-office policies against remote work: 24:40Dealing with emotionally charged issues in the CPO/CHRO role: 30:57Recommendations to GCs who want to take on multiple executive roles: 36:34Considering the right candidate for dual GC and CPO roles: 42:39Book recommendations: 46:37What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 50:19Connect with us:Rachel Olchowka - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-olchowka/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you help CEOs transition out of the business? How do you project calm in a time of crisis? Can you draw on the experience of beating cancer twice as you navigate the challenges of executive leadership?  Dan Haley, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary at Guild, has led a career spanning the world of local Massachusetts politics, leading legal at companies like Sprinklr, and Athenahealth, enduring cancer treatments while holding high-stress leadership positions, and becoming known as legal’s most “zen” GC.  Listen as Dan shares how he developed his calming professional philosophy, why he wears t-shirts to work, and how he instills and nurtures a sense of confidence in his staff during trying times.  Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-50   Topics: Introduction: 0:00 Balancing cancer treatment with a high-stress job: 9:21 Building a reputation as a zen lawyer: 12:23Maintaining a positive attitude and setting a tone as a GC role: 18:05Managing CEO transitions in a time of crisis: 23:16 Enduring a hostile takeover from Elliott Management at Athenahealth: 27:31 Facilitating the CEO transition at Athenahealth: 32:52 Facilitating the CEO transition at Guild: 37:22 Book recommendations: 46:14 What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 50:13  Connect with us:  Dan Haley - https://www.linkedin.com/in/danhaley1972/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft  SpotDraft is a leading Contract Lifecycle Management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How is AI going to change the practice of law? How is one of the most forward looking law firms adapting? And will the billable hour go away?  Joe Green, Chief Innovation Officer at Gunderson Dettmer and Cofounder & Director of the Open Cap Table Coalition, steered a law career starting at major Wall Street firm Simpson Thacher towards the worlds of tech and product management, with stop-offs in academia and legal publishing along the way. Ultimately, he found that his legal mindset guided him in his technical work, and his understanding of business and innovation strengthened his legal abilities.  Listen as Joe discusses strategies to shift your careers towards your passion through pro bono work, stepping into board advisory roles, parsing the influx of investment into legal tech, and whether the billable hour will really go away in our lifetime.  Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-49   Topics: Introduction: 0:00Moving into a tech advisor role at Gunderson Dettmer after a career start at Simpson Thacher: 2:11Moving away from the standard legal path at Thompson Reuters: 5:38Taking on side hustles that pull you towards tech and product: 8:43Founding the Open Cap Table Coalition: 11:59Rejoining Gunderson Dettmer and moving into the CIO role: 18:04Challenging the billable hour model: 20:56Leading and launching innovative projects: 30:06Shifting from a legal to a technical mindset: 33:44Discussing the influx of investment into legal tech: 37:20Predicting the future of legal services: 41:06Book Recommendations: 43:41What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 45:40 Connect with us: Joe Green - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joegreen1/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft   SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you build a legal and business career from a passion for aviation? What is the transition like from the GC role to that of CEO? And what is it like to run an airline?  Ben Klein, CEO and First Officer at Aero, was able to combine his dedication to legal work with his lifelong love of flying. Starting off at big law firms like Davis Polk & Wardwell, he successfully transitioned into aviation law after founding his own firm, then took on GC roles at autonomous helicopter start-up Skyryse and Aero, an airline offering a private-jet-like experience.   Listen as Ben discusses instilling confidence in investors during a CEO transition, counseling his airline through the coronavirus pandemic, and leveraging his experience in the cockpit to make his company the best it can be.  Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-48   Topics: Introduction: 0:00  Transitioning from corporate law to aviation law: 6:01Founding an aviation-focused law firm: 9:38Learning to manage an executive team as a first-time GC at Skyryse: 11:47Counseling an airline through the coronavirus pandemic: 14:57Taking on a GC and First Officer role at Aero: 16:09Leveraging your experience in the cockpit to lead as CEO: 23:59Instilling confidence in investors as you transition from GC to CEO: 25:47Inspiring teamwork in c-suite reports and hiring for your replacement GC: 30:58Book Recommendations: 35:30What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 38:49Connect with us: Ben Klein - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-klein-01b8736/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft  SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you build trust with investors who tap you for the CEO role? How do you prepare yourself to lead companies through some of their toughest moments, including bankruptcy, and guide other companies through their transformations as a board member?Chelsea Grayson, managing partner of corporate restructuring at Pivot > and former CEO and board member of brands like American Apparel, True Religion, and Spark Networks, has steered many ships through rough waters, including post-chapter 11 turnarounds, corporate wind-downs, and firing CEOs for cause. She has transitioned from board member to operator and back again, and is currently sharing her expertise on the boards of Xponential Fitness and Beyond Meat.Listen as Chelsea discusses her legendary journey from law firm partner to GC, CEO, Board Member, and now managing partner of an all-star corporate restructuring company, and offers tips to lawyers who are looking to find a board seat.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-46Topics:Introduction: 0:00Rising to partner at Jones Day and Loeb & Loeb, two big LA-based law firms: 3:00Transition to in-house legal (and a CEO role) at American Apparel: 9:35Tips for building relationships with investors: 15:11Managing CEO transitions: 18:34Joining boards and positioning yourself as a good board member: 26:30Becoming CEO of True Religion Jeans during a turnaround: 34:19Sitting on the board of Sugarf ina after a bankruptcy turnaround: 37:45Stepping into a tech CEO role at Spark Networks: 42:00Founding Pivot >, a corporate restructuring company: 47:39Book recommendations: 55:08What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 58:10Connect with us:Chelsea Grayson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelseagrayson24/Tyler Finn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-46Topics: Introduction: 0:00Deanna Papedis on adopting a strategic mindset and keeping your eye on the big picture: 1:05Hardeep Singh on congratulating yourself when you reach a career milestone: 2:10Vineet Shahani on dealing with career lows and leaning on your communication skills: 3:50Nguyễn Vu on establishing strong relationships with people who can move the needle on your career: 6:09Sagi Eliyahu on knowing when the world is ready for your idea: 8:49Connect with us: Deanna Papedis - https://www.linkedin.com/in/deanna-papedis/ Hardeep Singh - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hardeep-singh-863b1617/ Vineet Shahani - https://www.linkedin.com/in/vineetshahani Nguyen Vu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nguyentvu/  Sagi Eliyahu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliyahusagi/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft  SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues.  Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

What does a former GC-turned-executive recruiter wish she'd known about creating a personal brand, working with search firms, and negotiating the offer? How do executive recruiters help take careers where they need to go—not just to the next level? And when is the right time to start building a meaningful relationship with executive recruiters?Joelle Khoury, consultant at Egon Zehnder, built a towering career as an in-house counsel at private equity giants like Saban Capital Group and Fifth Wall and at law firms including Cooley LLP and Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP. But when the time came to make a change, she pivoted from leading to legal to helping other lawyers find the career paths that best suit their interests.Listen as Joelle shares insider tips on how to reach out to executive recruiters, navigate the interview and offer processes, the wrong way to approach a negotiation, and when to reassess whether the profession you’ve chosen is still the right one for you.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-45Topics:Introduction: 0:00Building a legal career at Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher and Cooley LLP: 3:09Comparing Saban Capital Group with Fifth Wall: 5:55Advice to lawyers raising capital for the first time: 8:16Leaving Fifth Wall and reassessing your career plan: 9:55Taking time off before joining Egon Zehnder: 11:22Transitioning from a legal career to executive recruiting at Egon Zehnder: 16:07Advice to executives looking to executive recruiters for new opportunities: 21:43Tips for nailing the interview process: 26:10Tips for negotiating after receiving an offer: 29:40Lessons you learned as a recruiter that you wish you’d known as a GC: 33:33What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 35:27Connect with us:Joelle Khoury - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelle-khoury-21959814Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How can training to be a professional opera singer translate into the legal operations profession? How do you build a career in legal ops without any formal training? And what role should technology play–if any–in a strong legal ops program?Cory Clines, Legal Operations Manager at Campari Group, was able to transfer valuable lessons from his life as a conservatory-trained opera singer into his fifteen-year-long career in legal ops, like the importance of collaboration and the need for a shared vision among teams. In his current role and at former companies like Advance Publications and Lloyd’s, Cory was able to leverage his love of technology into managerial roles that revolutionized legal processes with efficiency-maximizing software.Listen as Cory discusses how to develop strong relationships with tech vendors, building legal ops teams from scratch, earning the trust of your GC, the best ways to run an RFP, and more.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-44Topics:Introduction: 0:00Training as an opera singer: 4:01Considering skill transfer from opera to legal operations: 12:12Moving forward by earning the trust of your GC: 14:46Deciding to leverage technology in legal ops: 16:34Running RFPs from an in-house perspective: 18:59Identifying new opportunities to advance your legal ops career: 22:05Advice to legal ops professionals who feel pigeonholed in one aspect of the role: 24:27Considering how curiosity affects your work: 27:23Questioning the need for tech expertise as a legal operations manager: 28:47Looking back at tech implementations that went wrong: 31:20Building a legal ops team from scratch at Campari: 38:14Using tech to drive legal ops process: 41:15Book recommendations: 46:01What you wish you had known when you started in legal ops: 47:58Connect with us:Cory Clines - https://www.linkedin.com/in/corywilliamclines/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

If you're a foreign-trained lawyer who wants to move to the U.S., how do you find a job? Why should companies look to foreign-trained lawyers in an increasingly globalized world? And how should you navigate moments of big career transitions?Flavia Naves, former general counsel at Circle, relocated to the United States after studying law in her native country of Brazil, and went on to become an authority on law and regulation related to crypto, fintech, digital payments, and much more. In addition to her long lost of leading legal roles, she is also a board member, of counsel at Kunz and Hathaway, and commissioner of the State of Wyoming’s Stable Token Commission.Listen as Flavia shares the challenges she faced as a foreign-trained lawyer, why she advocates for mentorship and specialized training, what it’s like facing unexpected career transitions, and how she came to realize that her biggest differences are her biggest strengths.Read detailed summary:  https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-43Topics:Introduction: 0:00Moving to the United States after growing up and studying law in Brazil: 2:44Entering the legal job market as a foreign-trained attorney: 3:51Seeking mentorship from other foreign-trained lawyers: 8:18Why companies should consider more foreign-trained attorneys: 11:23Considering LLMs: 14:36Navigating moments of career transition: 18:24Deciding to leave your GC role at Circle: 20:36Life after Circle: 25:38Book recommendations: 31:15What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 32:42Connect with us:Flavia Naves - https://www.linkedin.com/in/fnavesTyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How does the nature of an organization change the design of its legal operations program? How can leaders of all types embrace innovations that legal ops professionals are bringing to legal ops departments? What are the most important things legal ops leaders need to know about the business?Susan Packal, Head of Global Legal Operations at Atlassian, learned the most important aspects of legal ops leadership serving in director and chief of staff positions at dynamic start-ups and legacy brands like Hilton, eBay, Uber, and Twilio, in addition to running her own legal ops consultancy. Along the way, she’s developed methods for building legal ops teams that leverage their proficiency to serve the needs of the core business.Hear from Susan as she sits down with Tyler at CLOC to discuss ways to establish a strong culture in your legal team, elevating the GC role, and recognizing the importance of tough feedback to help guide your career.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-42Topics: Introduction: 0:00 Building the first legal ops teams at Hilton: 3:06 Contemplating the chief of staff role in legal departments: 9:51 Running legal operations as director and chief of staff at Twilio: 12:49 Setting a strong culture in the legal department at Atlassian: 15:58 Comparing and contrasting Hilton, Uber, and Atlassian: 19:36 Considering past career missteps: 22:10 Book Recommendations: 29:00 What you wish you had known as a young lawyer: 32:07Connect with us: Susan Packal - https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanpackal/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How has the legal ops profession evolved over the years? What was it like to be there at the birth of legal ops? And how can you break into the field now?  DeAnna Papedis, head of legal contract & product program management & operations at Google, has been with the tech giant for eighteen years, building up their massive legal ops departments from a team of legal assistants. Stepping into legal operations from a contract management role before the field even had a name, DeAnna has watched legal ops grow into an indispensable part of the organization.  Hear DeAnna as she takes a break from CLOC to discuss building and leading one of tech’s biggest and most venerable legal ops teams, expanding the legal ops community, and predicting the future of legal ops.  Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-41     Topics: Introduction: 0:00Transitioning from contracts manager into legal ops: 4:55Growing legal ops within Google: 8:56Managing a legal ops team: 11:44Attending CLOC from the beginning: 13:40Imagining the future of legal ops: 16:24Book recommendations: 19:11What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 20:00Connect with us: DeAnna Papedis - https://www.linkedin.com/in/deanna-papedis/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft  SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

Can you leverage a joke-filled social media brand to build your own business? How will the practice of law evolve in the age of AI? Is the billable hour going away?Matt Margolis, Partner at Margolis PLLC, went from a single funny and relatable LinkedIn post about frustrations at work to growing a massive brand as @ItsMattsLaw across platforms like TikTok, X, and Instagram. Beyond expanding his network, it aided him as he made the leap from in-house to partner at his own law firm, Margolis PLLC.Hear Matt discuss how he balances social content creation with legal work, starting his own law firm, serving as legal advisor to multiple companies, and how he thinks AI is shaping the future of legal work.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-40Topics:Introduction: 0:00Building a major social media presence: 3:01Managing the demands of content production: 8:59Leveraging your persona profile to build brand awareness at LawTrades: 12:48Starting your own legal firm: 14:45Tracking the evolution of in-house legal roles: 18:17Leveraging AI at your law firm: 20:47Advising on community and partnerships at Justice HQ and Attorney Share: 24:11Recommendations: 26:14What you wish you had known as a young lawyer: 29:02Connect with us:Matt Margolis - https://www.linkedin.com/in/itsmattslaw/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

What is the role of tech in making legal and business teams work better together? How can process orchestration improve your intake process and seamlessly connect silos in your organization? And what is it like to build a tech company that serves legal professionals?  Sagi Eliyahu, CEO and co-founder of Tonkean, didn’t set out to make a platform that automates and streamlines processes for lawyers. But focusing his startup’s point of view on elevating people over data allowed him to identify the issues that legal teams—some of the most people-centric and complex teams in an organization—need to resolve to do their work better, faster, and with more time to focus on solving problems.  Hear Sagi discuss the meaning of process orchestration, his experience immigrating to the US and starting a tech-company, and where he thinks AI and machine learning are headed. And for the first time ever, Spotdraft COO Akshay Verma joins Tyler as co-host and draws upon his background in legal ops at Coinbase and Meta to contribute keen insights into the conversation.  Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-39   Topics: Introduction: 0:00Understanding how the immigrant experience shapes your business acumen: 6:16Founding Tonkean and focusing your sales efforts on legal: 15:13Defining process orchestration and contrasting it with automation: 21:13Working with customers to orchestrate processes: 26:26Taking a pragmatic approach to using AI and machine learning: 36:44Contemplating when data sets will be strong enough to give AI reliable judgment: 45:15Book recommendations: 58:12What you wish you had known as a young founder: 1:00:55 Connect with us: Sagi Eliyahu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliyahusagi/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn Akshay Verma - https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshay-verma-esq/  SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft  SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you step into and thrive in the role of product counselor? How does the work of a product counselor change from organization to organization? And how can you recalibrate your legal career to focus on environmental issues and climate change?  Vineet Shahani, General Counsel, Policy and Corporate Development at Mill, gained his product knowledge working on the iPhone at Apple and guiding the groundbreaking internet-of-things product Nest through acquisition and integration at Google. Now he applies those learnings to his legal leadership at Mill, a mission-based environmental product that combats a major climate issue.  Hear Vineet explain the challenges and rewards of jumping from a big organizations to an adaptable startup, lending your legal skills to a political campaign, breaking into environmental work, and more.  Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-38  Annual Compensation Report: https://salary-report.spotdraft.com/Topics: Introduction: 0:00Explaining Mill and its environmentalist mission-oriented concept: 2:22Considering work in an ESG (environmental social governance)-related company: 8:01Advice for lawyers who want to work on climate issues: 10:18Beginning your path to a full-time counsel role as an outside advisor: 14:41Unpacking the phrase “hitting a single:” 18:16Defining the responsibilities of a product counselor: 22:25Lessons about product counseling from Apple: 25:39Transitioning from Apple to Nest: 27:36Leading legal at Nest through an acquisition by Google: 31:37Assisting on a political campaign: 37:42What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 41:28   Connect with us: Vineet Shahani - https://www.linkedin.com/in/vineetshahani  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft  SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How can legal leaders thrive while navigating major M&A and capital market transactions? How do you expand the GC or CLO title and take on broader executive roles? And how do you leverage your experience into a board seat?Nithya Das, Chief Legal and Chief Administrative Officer at Diligent, has taken on each of these challenges and used the lessons she gained from them to advance her career exactly where she wants it to go. Formerly the chief legal and people officer of the so-called “AppNexus mafia” during the startup’s historic sale to AT&T, Nithya has led counsel, operations, and more in the ad tech, food tech, and reg tech spaces. She also brings her expertise to her seat on the board of directors at Outbrain.Hear Nithya as she shares tips about leading in-house counsel through IPO and acquisitions, serving on a board of directors, dealing with personal tragedy during career triumphs, the importance of transparency for establishing trust and loyalty with your team, and more.Diligent is the leading GRC SaaS company, empowering more than 1 million users and 700,000 board members and leaders to make better decisions, faster. The Diligent One Platform helps organizations connect their entire GRC practice — including governance, risk, compliance, audit and ESG — to bring clarity to complex risk, stay ahead of regulatory changes and deliver impactful insights, in one consolidated view.Diligent will be at CLOC global institute next month! Be sure to catch their speaking session 'Elevating Entity Management' on the 7th and stop by booth 104 to discuss the ways Diligent can help streamline and automate your entity management at scale.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-37Annual Compensation Report: https://salary-report.spotdraft.com/Topics:Introduction: 0:00Planting the seeds of your legal career: 3:36Moving into your first in-house role at AppNexus: 4:47Running the IPO and acquisition process as GC at AppNexus: 8:29Choosing to move on from AT&T after acquisition: 10:43Taking time off before joining Olo as COO and CLO: 16:02Running operations at Olo: 20:12Offering practical advice to lawyers trying to take on business roles: 25:10Working with private equity versus working in a public company: 27:47Leading legal at Diligent: 29:58Finding your way onto the board at Outbrain: 31:53What you wish you had known as a young lawyer: 35:52Connect with us:Nithya Das - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nithyadas/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you transition into a legal ops role? What are the new and exciting opportunities for legal professionals without a law degree? How will the legal operations community trailblaze a path for in-house counsels and law firms into the future of business?Tommie Tavares-Ferreira, Head of Legal Ops at Cedar and Tom Stephenson, Vice President of Community and Legal Ops at Legal.io, have an expert understanding of both the legal ops industry and the diverse channels that professionals can take to arrive in the field. Not only are they the hosts of the Dear Legal Ops podcast, but they have arrived via their own journeys from big law firm paralegals and HBO contract manager to running legal ops at major businesses like Credit Karma, Rakuten, and Peloton.Hear Tommie and Tom as they discuss the benefits for ambitious professionals to transition into a legal ops role, how to balance your business skill set with a strategic legal mindset, career paths beyond legal ops, and much more.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-36Topics:Introduction: 0:00Transitioning from paralegal to legal ops: 2:30Coming into legal ops from a contract management background: 5:22Shifting your mindset from legal specialization to business strategy: 8:38Debating whether legal ops is the right career path for everyone: 12:38Establishing trust with stakeholders across the broader business: 15:50Managing a legal ops department: 19:10Maintaining a strong relationship with your general counsel: 23:59Balancing your business expertise with your GC’s legal strategy: 31:01The importance of placing the head of legal ops on the GC’s leadership team: 36:04Considering career moves beyond legal ops: 38:48Transitioning from legal ops to executive roles: 43:15Presenting at CLOC 2024: 49:11Connect with us:Tommie Tavares-Ferreira - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tommie/Tom Stephenson - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tstephenson1/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you build a personal brand on LinkedIn that strengthens your ties to the legal community, grows your network, and even helps other lawyers? And how do you convert that brand into a successful and rewarding consulting business with an impressive client base?Brittany Leonard, General Counsel at Civix, started her journey to LinkedIn legal community influencer at the beginning of the pandemic, and went from a single post with minor engagement to an in-house advice powerhouse with more than 26,000 followers. Now she runs a successful consulting business where she trains GCs and businesses to understand the power of a personal brand to get new clients and grow revenue.Hear Brittany as she shares tips for growing your own presence on LinkedIn, starting a consulting business, breaking out of the networking-event malaise, dealing with abusive workplaces, and more.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-35 Topics:Introduction: 0:00Starting your career in local government before entering law school: 2:24Finding a path to your first general counsel role: 3:54Approaching the GC role with a business mindset: 10:03Rebuilding your confidence after working under an abusive boss: 11:43Building a personal brand on LinkedIn: 16:34Advice to lawyers who have never posted on LinkedIn before: 19:39Launching a consulting business on the back of your social presence: 24:54Tips for creating your own business: 28:22Book recommendations: 29:36What you wish you had known as a young lawyer: 32:08Annual Compensation Report: https://salary-report.spotdraft.com/Connect with us:Brittany Leonard - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittany-leonard-b3a7b2a4/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you approach, accept, and move on from career transitions, both planned and unexpected? What does it take to transition from decades in public service to roles leading legal at tech startups and law firms? And how can you leverage your network to bounce back after an unexpected layoff?S. Michael Lee, General Counsel and COO at Engaging.ai, has conquered many of these tense moments. Starting his career as the first Korean-American prosecutor in the Santa Clara County DA’s Office, he brought lessons learned from his experience as a trial attorney to his second chapter as an in-house counsel and—eventually—legal and business leader.Hear Michael as he discusses why your network is essential to finding your next role, why you shouldn’t limit yourself or your job prospects, and the importance of honoring your roots in your professional life,Annual Compensation Report: https://salary-report.spotdraft.com/Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-34 Topics:Introduction: 0:00Honouring your connection to the Korean American community: 2:40Finding inspiration in your community to work in public service as a prosecutor: 5:36Applying lessons learned as a prosecutor to the private sector: 11:36Finding an in-house role after building your career in public service: 12:57Advice to lawyers in government service trying to move into the private sector: 14:37Networking to advance your career: 16:57Dealing with layoffs at Blind: 20:40Taking on a new GC and COO role at Engaging.ai: 25:04Advice to lawyers looking for new positions: 26:52Book recommendation: 28:19What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 29:02Connect with us:S. Michael Lee - https://www.linkedin.com/in/s-michael-lee-27ab86/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you leverage your legal career to launch your own consultancy? What are the winning tactics to be an effective in-house lawyer? Is it possible to merge your love of science with your passion for law?Lisa Taylor Ash, General Counsel at Shape Therapeutics, has the answer to all of your questions. After leading two different legal teams through major acquisitions, starting her own consulting firm, and returning to the GC role, Lisa created effectiveinhouse.com, a website that features legal tactics, samples, and interviews with top in-house counsels across a variety of industries.Hear Lisa as she explains how she was able to position her career at the forefront of cutting-edge biotech, offers practical advice for lawyers hoping to start a company, shares lessons she wishes were taught in law school, and more.Check out some of Lisa’s favorite posts from effectiveinhouse.com below:Minimize Legal Riskhttps://effectiveinhouse.com/minimize-legal-riskInterview with Brett Pletcher, Former GC of Gileadhttps://effectiveinhouse.com/interview-brett-pletcherInterview with Brandon Etheridge, GC of the Baltimore Ravenshttps://effectiveinhouse.com/interview-brandon-etheridgeRead detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-33Topics:Introduction: 0:00Leading legal through two major acquisitions: 2:48Developing personalized medicines: 8:56Lessons for lawyers dealing with M&A: 12:11Leaving large companies after an acquisition: 14 :06Launching an independent consulting firm: 15:51Offering practical advice for starting a consulting business: 19:39Returning to an in-house role at Shape Therapeutics: 24:37Legal issues related to gene editing: 30:47Building public trust in gene therapy companies: 32:57The future of AI and gene editing: 35:41Creating an essential legal resource at effectiveinhouse.com: 36:51Book recommendations: 41:35What you wish you had known as a young lawyer: 44:03Connect with us:Lisa Taylor Ash - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-taylor-ash-17b1b611/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you realign your legal career in order to break into the tech industry and product counseling? What are the major differences between headline-grabbing big tech companies and ambitious start-ups? And should the goal of every in-house counsel be a GC title?Nguyen Vu, deputy general counsel at OKX, leveraged his persistence, skills, and showmanship to redefine himself as a tech attorney. Starting off as a lawyer working in telecoms regulation, Nguyen was able to land a major product role at Apple, become the “mini GC” of digital currency at Facebook, and lead international product teams at successful fintech and crypto startups.Hear Ngyuen as he shares the valuable lessons he’s learned about regulation, consumer protection, motivating your team, steering your career in the direction you want to take it, and more.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-32Topics:Introduction: 0:00Beginning your career during the Great Recession: 3:21Moving beyond telecoms law: 6:10Landing a dream role at Apple: 9:07Coming into your own as a product attorney: 11:44Defining the role of a product counselor: 18:45Joining Facebook’s digital currency project: 20:10Getting off of career plateaus and joining Bolt: 25:06Navigating the difficulties of managing a legal team at a start-up: 28:43Encountering “Big Company Bias”: 31:34Becoming deputy general counsel at OKX: 36:33Book recommendations: 40:10Advice to your younger self: 41:36Connect with us:Nguyen Vu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nguyentvu/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

 What challenges face the legal team at India’s largest learning platform as they expand beyond online classrooms? How do you execute one thousand new contracts a month, and still find time to problem solve and aid core function?Siddharth Manchanda, Partner at IndusLaw and External GC at Unacademy, has embraced tech and AI in order to free his team from the repetitive manual tasks borne from his company’s fast and massive growth. He’s found that increased efficiency is more than enough to shift the mindsets of traditional lawyers and business teams alike about the power and possibility  of tech solutions.Hear Siddharth as he discusses the legal perspective on India’s massive economic growth, dividing his time between an in-house and client services role, the future of legal tech, and more.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-31Topics:Introduction: 0:00Finding inspiration to practice law: 1:20Building a career in India’s tech sector during the Great Recession: 6:40Going in-house with Unacademy: 12:59Key learnings from a first in-house GC role: 17:13Considering the perception of legal within your organization: 22:21Reflecting on the early days at Unacademy: 28:32Marketing reduced contract drafting time internally: 36:32Predicting the future of legal tech: 39:14Using tech experience to change the way you deal with clients: 46:39Balancing a GC role with a law firm partnership: 49:51Advice to companies looking to enter the Indian market: 52:27What you wish you’d know as a young lawyer 59:00Connect with us:Siddharth Manchanda - https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddharth-manchanda-0970801b/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How is tech changing India’s financial services industry? How do you deal with complex regulations that change as rapidly as tech products do? And how can a multinational company expand into India’s culturally, geographically, and linguistically diverse market?Hardeep Singh, General Counsel at CRED, has faced these challenges head-on. Starting his career in litigation, he moved on to in-house counsel for Uber in Delhi and helped pioneer solutions to improve the city’s public transit. Now he leads the legal team at CRED, a reward-based credit card payment app that integrates with India’s massive mobile payment system.Hear Hardeep as he shares his experiences structuring M&A deals, navigating nuanced regulations, leading legal for a dynamic design-based product, and finding motivation from solving real world problems.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-30Topics:Introduction: 1:17Launching your legal career: 1:52Switching to corporate counsel from an appellate practice in Delhi: 5:27Applying lessons from Uber to your legal leadership at CRED: 8:50Explaining CRED: 12:45Encountering a learning curve as a first-time team leader: 16:31Considering the role of legal in an organization without titles: 22:18Lessons learned from M&A at CRED: 27:46Working in India’s legal landscape: 33:37Driving communication, marketing and PR in legal: 37:15Understanding UPI, India’s unified payment interface: 39:40Advice to companies trying to expand into the Indian economy: 45:54Book recommendations: 50:23Advice to your younger self: 53:25Connect with us:Hardeep Singh - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hardeep-singh-863b1617/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

What can a strong community offer a legal ops professional working alone within their organization? How do you deal with the stress of a chaotic project management role while fostering change? Will legal ops eventually shift away from legal and into the business and tech sphere? Jenn McCann, Director of Legal Ops at Netflix and President of the Board of Directors at CLOC can offer an expert perspective on all of these questions and more. During her term as CLOC president, she is strengthening the organizations to community, content, and conversation, and developing a legal ops framework for CLOC’s more than 7,000 members.  Hear Jenn talk about finding the courage to share your ideas, building and leaning on your community of fellow legal ops professionals, emphasizing the importance of project management, allowing change to take shape, and more.  Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-29  Topics: Introduction: 0:00Advancing the legal ops industry at CLOC as President of the Board of Directors: 3:35Getting started with CLOC: 7:22Unpacking the mindset of service and giving back: 11:21Lessons learned as CLOC president: 14:23Advice for professionals getting their start in legal ops: 17:24Hiring detail-oriented staff with stakeholder management skills: 22:07Recommending platforms for learning project management skills: 26:04Dealing with the loneliness of a one-of-one role: 30:25Legal ops as a business team vs legal ops as a legal team: 37:06Focusing on the future: 41:02Maintaining an after-hours music career: 46:47 Connect with us: Jenn McCarron - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennmccarron/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft   SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.  

How do executive recruiters take legal careers to the next level? What do you need to handle the transition from big-name law firm partner to a role helping people build careers of their own? How can you distinguish a good interview from a bad interview? Richard Hsu, Managing Director at Major, Lindsey & Africa and host of the Hsu Untied podcast, has expert advice to share about how to ace the job interview for executive legal roles and the podcast interview with influential thinkers like Mark Cuban and Tony Robbins.  Going deep on legal and podcasting, Richard shares essential tips on how to project confidence and say the right things when you’re face to face with a hiring manager (or celebrity) who can take your career to the next level. Listen to an episode of Richard’s Hsu Untied podcast: https://hsuuntied.com/mcuban/   Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-28   Topics: Introduction: 0:00Finding your path to becoming a law firm partner: 4:07Dealing with the stress of a big law partnership: 6:46Making the transition from law firm partner to executive recruiter: 8:45Unpacking the responsibilities of an executive recruiter: 12:25Tactical tips for legal career searchers: 16:13Interviewing legal leaders like Mark Cuban on the Hsu Untied podcast: 18:32Helping your professional development by making a podcast: 24:14Advice to lawyers who want to start a podcast: 26:56Book recommendations: 29:57What you wish you’d known as a starting lawyer: 32:29Outro:33:54  Connect with us: Richard Hsu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardhsu/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft   SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

What is a general counsel’s role in international expansion? How do you balance growth with safety and compliance across diverse countries and markets? And how do you scale your legal team to take on challenges that require in-depth knowledge of local cultures, regulations, and business practices? As general counsel at Lime, Sarah Binder confronts these questions each day, as she and her legal team navigate regulations across 300 municipalities in 35 countries. Sarah, who recently located to San Francisco from the UK, has found that transparency, accessibility, and flexibility are key to working across borders (and time zones).  Listen as Sarah offers tips for effectively scaling out your legal team for international expansion.Introduction: 0:00Discussing the scope of Sarah’s GC roles at Lime and Pizza Hut UK and Europe: 4:56Effectively scaling out your team for international expansion: 07:48Tips for working across time zones without feeling burnout: 12:47Defining the role of the GC: 18:57What American execs get wrong when they expand into European markets: 24:57Guiding your team through a diverse set of regulatory bodies: 30:01Looking back on your experience with consumer product liability as a general counsel: 32:38How GCs strike a balance between growth and regulatory compliance: 37:19Book Recommendation: 40:45Outro: 44:36Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-27  Annual Compensation Report: https://salary-report.spotdraft.com/  Connect with us: Sarah Binder -https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajmahapatra/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft  SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you turn one of the most difficult moments in your life into the motivation that guides you to make the world a better place?When Raj Mahapatra received his axial spondyloarthritis diagnosis, he was told he would spend his life in a wheelchair. Decades later, he is an accomplished long-distance runner, seasoned general counsel, tech start-up business operator, mission-driven climate advocate, and chairman of the charity that makes life better for people suffering from his condition worldwide.Listen as Raj recounts his journey to leadership, explains the importance of advocating for your personal needs, and shares why it is so important for GCs to never stop asking “why?”Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-26Topics:Introduction: 1:20Receiving a life-changing diagnosis in your twenties: 2:45Changing your perspective on work by living with a disability: 6:27Incorporating charity into your running practice: 13:17Going beyond legal roles and into operator positions: 20:41Fundraising as General Counsel and Head of Intellectual Property at Cervest Limited: 24:45Reflecting on the experience of building and losing a business as a lawyer: 32:13Resetting after a difficult work experience: 35:58Joining Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati as Senior Counsel: 42:19Building a meaningful life: 51:28Connect with us:Raj Mahapatra - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajmahapatra/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

In an always-changing ad tech industry, how have privacy and data protection emerged as two of the largest challenges that organizations need to face? Whether it’s streaming platforms, engineering AI models, or aligning key industry stakeholders, these topics are evolving faster than the world can keep up with.OpenAP GC & Chief Privacy Officer Andy Dale has been leading conversations about privacy and data protection for more than a decade. He shares stories and advice from his time as the only privacy counsel at Mastercard, an organizer of some of the first privacy and data-focused industry groups, overseeing privacy at standards-making body OpenAP, and co-hosting his popular and influential podcast for more than 80 episodes, Data Protection Breakfast Club.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-25Topics:Introduction: 0:00Predicting the importance of data protection and recalibrating your career: 3:24Connecting laws and data in the privacy sphere: 6:52Leading privacy diligence during SessionM sale to Mastercard: 11:25Identifying your interests to determine your next professional move: 15:26Working across competitive lines at OpenAP: 19:35Predicting the data and privacy ecosystem ahead: 24:36Viewing AI through privacy and data protection: 27:50Evolving the Chief Privacy Officer role: 30:19Advice to junior lawyer breaking into privacy: 33:48Co-hosting a podcast about privacy and data protection with over 88 episodes published: 38:22Privacy-related book recommendations: 44:06Advice to younger lawyers: 45:16Listen to an episode of Andy’s Data Protection Breakfast Club podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trevor-hughes-ceo-at-iapp/id1559290322?i=1000514250595Connect with us:Andy Dale - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-dale-7705b83/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

How do you build and scale a high-performing legal team?Beyond legal prowess, GCs must master leadership, finding and retaining the right talent, allocating resources and advocating for budget, and more. Join us as we dive into intriguing stories and advice shared by top leaders in the in-house legal industry.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-24TopicsIntroduction: 00:00David Lancelot on transforming processes to empower lawyers as strategic leaders: 01:46Gary Spiegel on hiring adaptable players and fostering a growth-oriented culture: 08:17Brian Chase on allocating resources strategically and nurturing talent: 13:41Akshay Verma on how well-being and values contribute to professional success: 20:03Adam Glick on strategic hiring for expertise and problem-solving skills: 22:17Celaena Powder on team success through coaching, brand building, and open culture: 30:38Lydia Chuek on demonstrating trust in employees and retaining great legal talent: 34:00Seth Weissman on developing trust and leadership synergy within teams: 36:56Subscribe to be the first to know when we release new episodes.Connect with us:Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftFeatured guests:David Lancelot - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidlancelot/Gary Spiegel - ​​https://www.linkedin.com/in/gspieg/Brian Chase - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-r-chase/Akshay Verma - https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshay-verma-esq/Adam Glick - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adglick/Celaena Powder - https://www.linkedin.com/in/celaenapowder/Lydia Cheuk - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lydiacheuk/Seth Weissman -  https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethweissman/

Interested in expanding beyond the traditional role of General Counsel? Join us in this episode to find out how legal leaders redefine their roles. Discover insights that transform legal professionals into strategic business leaders – from smoothly transitioning to CEO to mastering adaptive communication in enterprise strategy.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-23Topics: Introduction: 00:00Evan Ferl on taking the legal landscape beyond its limits: 01:16René Paula on enterprise strategy and adaptive communication: 06:55Kathy Zhu on mastering the legal to CEO transition: 09:11Vanessa Gage on navigating interim leadership challenges: 12:15Genessa Stout on mastering legal insight and business success: 17:19Outro: 20:30 Subscribe now for valuable perspectives on Google Podcasts/Apple Podcasts/Spotify.Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftFeatured guests:Evan Ferl: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanferl/René Paula: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rpaula/Kathy Zhu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathymzhu88/Vanessa Gage: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vgage/Genessa Stout: https://www.linkedin.com/in/genessastout/SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

Joining a board as a GC presents a unique set of challenges: how do you demonstrate value when many boards are looking for members with financial and strategy experience? How do you avoid becoming the de facto legal counsel? And how can you maximize your board experience to expand and strengthen your network and legal skill set?Lisa Harrington, board director, consultant, and CLO, can coach you through this complex process. Currently the board director at A-Rod’s Slam Corp and Iron Horse Acquisitions, Lisa has complimented her career as CLO and corporate secretary with a yearslong journey through public and private board rooms.Join Lisa as she offers her fellow GCs experience-proven advice on the best ways to find your first board seat, thrive on a committee as an expert advisor, and eventually make your way to a role on a coveted public board.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-22Topics:Introduction: 1:28Comparing and contrasting GC roles at public and private companies: 4:24Finding opportunities on to take on board directorships or take on board seats: 8:48Setting yourself up to get recruited for board membership: 15:01Describing the ongoing obligations of a board member or director: 21:39Factors to consider for GCs looking to join a board: 25:08Non-legal-related advice for drafting your board agreement: 28:17Making strong connections with operators: 31:53Going through the IPO process with Iron Horse: 37:49Participating on a board during an acquisition at Slam Corp: 41:37Leaving a board role with grace: 44:45Advice to younger self: 47:10Connect with us:Lisa Harrington - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisahattonharrington/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

After an unexpected detour from her initial plans to join the FBI, Alice Bisgrove built a career in tech law working for tech giants like Cisco and Procore.In this episode, she discusses how she remained a legal generalist for over a decade at Cisco, taking on new roles and building relationships across the massive organization.Alice describes her transition to Procore as it grew from an established startup to a public company. From her impactful career journey, we will learn lessons on collaboration, problem-solving perspectives, and continually adapting to new opportunities.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-21Topics:01:07 Introduction04:36 Moving into the tech field09:57 Sensing when an applicant is hungry to work11:01 Staying curious as a corporate generalist at Cisco15:03 Driving alignment after identifying a major problem20:24 Building trust with stakeholders in your business21:42 Finding ways to maintain customer centricity25:46 Transitioning to Procore Technologies27:38 Working cross-functionally30:08 Management role and building a team32:11 Book recommendations33:54 Advice to younger selfConnect with us:Alice Bisgrove - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alicebisgroveTyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.