In which we REALLY love some things (and not-so-much others), Jenn eats her words about Perrin's trial, and Mat is freaking epic.Next episode: Chapters 35-43Payal Mehta's Romance Revenge Plot is out now!House of HarknessMerch:tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products and northingtron.redbubble.com Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In which Preeti and Jenn discuss continued pacing issues with Perrin, whether or not Rand has become a Disney princess, and, above all else, the Trakands making Very Bad Choices.Next episode: Chapters 28 - 34Payal Mehta's Romance Revenge Plot is out now!House of HarknessMerch:tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products and northingtron.redbubble.com Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

While the pacing is still herky-jerky, Jenn could not be happier about the character moments we get in this section. Preeti has some Questions. Both agree: Nynaeve 5Ever. PS Jenn is traveling, so the sound's a little wonky this episode! Payal Mehta's Romance Revenge Plot is out now!Spider-Man: Stories from the Spider-Verse is also out now!House of HarknessMerch:tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products and northingtron.redbubble.com Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In which Jenn and Preeti have issues with pacing, talk about all the loose ends that need tying up, and DESPERATELY want to know what is in these letters from Verin! Next section: Chapters 16-21Preorder Payal Mehta's Romance Revenge Plot (out September 24) and get awesome swag! Preorder Info HereCome to the Atlanta Launch! House of HarknessMerch:tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products and northingtron.redbubble.com Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this TVOB After Dark, Preeti and Jenn are a little frustrated with pacing, find parallels EVERYWHERE, and are pretty excited about some character developments.Next episode: Towers of Midnight, Chapters 6 - 15 inclusivePreorder Payal Mehta's Romance Revenge Plot (out September 24) and get awesome swag! Preorder Info HereCome to the Atlanta Launch! Merch:tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products and northingtron.redbubble.com Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In which it takes Preeti and Jenn two recording sessions to get through all of this INTENSE material, from Egwene's epicness to the parallels between Egwene and Rand to Rand's dark night of the soul and then some. NOTE: Apologies for Preeti's audio in the second half of the episode. She did not check that the computer was using her podcast mic as a sound source and so it recorded the entire thing via the computer mic instead. Next episode: Towers of Midnight, Prologue - Chapter 5Preorder Payal Mehta's Romance Revenge Plot and get awesome swag! Preorder Info HereMerch:tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products and northingtron.redbubble.com Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Preeti and Jenn dig into character-author affinities, POV choices, Mat and Egwene parallels, and OMG VERIN in this episode.Next episode: Chapter 40 - EpiloguePreorder Payal Mehta's Romance Revenge Plot and get awesome swag! Preorder Info HereMerch:tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products and northingtron.redbubble.com Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The horror! The characterizations! The repeated shout-outs to Moiraine! Jenn and Preeti talk about this banger of a section and are once again tempted to just keep reading. Next section: Chapters 33-39Preeti's Work:X-Men: Blood Hunt: Jubilee one-shot in June (out now!)Preorder Payal Mehta's Romance Revenge Plot and get awesome swag! Preorder Info HereMerch:tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products and northingtron.redbubble.com Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

WHAT A SECTION, Y'ALL!!! WHAT A SECTION. Seriously. Join Jenn and Preeti as they freak the hell out about Rand. (But Gawyn continues to be the worst.)Next section: Chapters 27-32Preeti's Work:X-Men: Blood Hunt: Jubilee one-shot in June (out now!)Preorder Payal Mehta's Romance Revenge Plot and get awesome swag! Preorder Info HereMerch:tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products and northingtron.redbubble.com Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Preeti and Jenn get Very Excited about Egwene's storyline, noodle on character resets and character parallels, and are annoyed by Gawyn (again). Next section: Chapters 19-26Preeti's Work:X-Men: Blood Hunt: Jubilee one-shot in June (out now!)Preorder Payal Mehta's Romance Revenge Plot and get awesome swag! bit.ly/PayalPreorderMerch:tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products  and northingtron.redbubble.com Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Preeti and Jenn revel in some really great (and really deliberate?) character work, as well as a faster pace, and talk about what they hope to see sooner than later.Next episode: Chapters 12-18Merch: https://tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products  and northingtron.redbubble.com Preeti's Work:X-Men: Blood Hunt: Jubilee one-shot in June (out now!)Payal Mehta’s Romance Revenge Plot (preorder) Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In which we finally start on the Sanderson books and talk a lot about voice, POV choices, resetting of stages, and how Rand is basically Batman now.Next section: Chapters 5-11 inclusivePreorder Preeti's work!X-Men: Blood Hunt: Jubilee one-shot in JunePayal Mehta’s Romance Revenge Plot (save your receipt for goodies)Merch available here: https://tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

While this last section is undeniably action-packed (yay!) and has some great writing (double yay!), Jenn and Preeti think about how it stands up to other books' endings, talk about some more closing of open loops, and get excited for what's coming next.Next episode: The Gathering Storm, Prologue - Chapter 4Printify shop https://tar-valon-or-bust.printify.me/products (shirt & sweater coming, will announce on Patreon when available)Preeti's upcoming publications:X-Men: Blood Hunt: Jubilee one-shot in JunePayal Mehta’s Romance Revenge Plot Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Approximately a thousand years ago, when we were early in the days of this project, I made a doc of things I thought I remembered. It's been updated sporadically, but at 2am the other morning I found myself thinking about it, and decided to do a thing. And here is that thing! Background noises by new co-host Fizz. Patrons will get to see a behind-the-scenes photo of us recording, via Patreon.NOTE: Here be spoilers! If you're current with the TVOB book episodes, you're good until minute 12:50. After that, proceed at your own risk.I finish up with some things I think I remember that we either haven't gotten to yet, or that I fully made up. I'll have to do another revisit when we're fully done with the series, I guess! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It was the best of sections, it was the worst of sections ... or was it? Tune in to find out everything we had feelings about (as usual), especially Rand (OMG RAND). Next section: Chapters 32 - epilogue Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the best section yet, hands down!!! While we (inevitably) have quibbles, we are also over the moon -- especially about this Egwene chapter, y'all.Next section: Chapters 27-31 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jenn and Preeti continue to disagree on which of these recent sections are better, but are in full agreement about competence, Nynaeve (!!!!), and the effectiveness of Jordan's horror and action sequences.Next episode: Chapters 23-26 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

While their opinions about specifics differ, both Jenn and Preeti continue to enjoy this book for the most part. More secrets are revealed! Things (almost) start to happen!Next section: Chapters 16-22Please note: These episodes were recorded in advance of Preeti's vacation. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Brace yourselves -- while the pacing is definitely better, we have a looooooootttttt of problems with this section. (Jenn is grateful for the info-dumps, though!) Next section: Chapters 10-15 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

More happens in almost the first 10 pages of Knife of Dreams than in the entirety of Crossroads of Twilight, and Preeti and Jenn are pretty psyched about it! Action check, weird character choices also check. Apologies in advance for the less-than-perfect audio -- we were recording whilst in a cabin in the woods and did our best, but the closing section in particular is much louder than the rest of the episode, so y'all are forewarned! Next section: Chapters 3-9 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Preeti and Jenn made it to the end, and they are VERY MAD ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS. But also there are some amazing character moments in here, so that's nice? Regardless, we made it!Next episode: Knife of Dreams, Prologue - Chapter 2 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In which a couple things finally happen, and Jenn and Preeti talk about Darkfriend motivation, ghosts (??), and (as always) pacing. Next section: Chapters 27-EpilogueCome join us at Loyalty Bookstore's virtual event with Lex Croucher on January 20th! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Are you prepared for not much else to happen? Jenn and Preeti do get super annoyed about character assassination for the first time in a while, so there's that.Next episode: Chapters 21-26 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This has to be a record for most chapters discussed in the shortest amount of time, right? Not very much happens, except Jenn and Preeti disagreeing about which POV worked best for them.Next: Chapters 16-19 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In which Jenn and Preeti both have rants, one about stakes and one about numbers, find themselves unexpectedly pro-Faile, and come up with at least three new t-shirt ideas.Next section: Chapters 11-15 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Surprising no one, not that much happens, but we have lots of opinions and questions anyway! At least we get a decent amount of Mat.Next episode: Chapters 7-10 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Preeti and Jenn are in full agreement on the excellence of this finale, especially Egwene's cathartic triumph. (But Jenn still has quibbles, especially about some lore info-dumps.) There is some wild speculation about Season 3, and Preeti manages to remember most of the Forsaken off the top of her head -- a true feat!This was recorded during the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes of 2023 but posted once both strikes ended. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jenn and Preeti have verrrrryyyyy different reactions to this episode, which gets them into the weeds around narrative crafting, pacing, and book vs. show choices. In the meantime, Lanfear continues to be epically fun to watch.This was recorded during the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes of 2023 but posted once both strikes ended. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the roughest episode yet (OOF), Preeti and Jenn talk about the portrayal of the Seanchan, comparative timelines, Jenn develops an entire theory about Mat and Min, and Egwene is the MVP.This was recorded during the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes of 2023 but posted once both strikes ended. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

So many things continue to happen, and Jenn and Preeti continue to have so many questions, including the relative Darkfriend/not-Darkfriend status of show characters vs. book characters. Plus, so much Forsaken!This was recorded during the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes of 2023 but posted once both strikes ended. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EVERYTHING HAPPENS! We get Lanfear, we meet Moiraine's sister (!??!), Lan is having some very confusing conversations about the warder bond, Perrin finally meets Hopper (!!!), we find out some of what Liandrin is up to, and now we have even bigger questions about what the hell is going on.This was recorded during the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes of 2023 but posted once both strikes ended. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Nynaeve/Zoe Robins makes Preeti and Jenn cry repeatedly, a minor character fave dies gruesomely, things are not going super-well for Rand, and there are big questions about what the hell Liandrin is doing.This was recorded during the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes of 2023 but posted once both strikes ended. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode gives us a look at post-Eye Rand, Liandrin's attempt to recruit Nynaeve to .... something, Elayne Daughter-Heir of Andor (!), more rough times for Lan and Moiraine, and the Extremely Dramatic Return of the Seanchan (plus Ishamael?!).Contains spoilers for book plotlines and character arcs (and therefore possibly show plotlines and character arcs).This was recorded during the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes of 2023 but posted once both strikes ended. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This season kicks off with a very strange Darkfriend Social, new questions about Tel'aran'rhiod, Egwene and Nynaeve (and Mat?!) in the Tower, Lan and Moiraine on the rocks, Perrin hunting Padan Fain, and SO MUCH ACTION Y'ALL.Contains spoilers for book plotlines and character arcs (and therefore possibly show plotlines and character arcs).This was recorded during the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes of 2023, but only posted once both strikes ended. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In one very long prologue and a very short chapter, not much happens but Preeti and Jenn have so many questions, ranging from "Who are these people?" to "When is this happening?" to "Mat, what are you doing!?" Next episode: Chapters 2-6 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Preeti and Jenn get into the absolute chaos and confusion of the end of Winter's Heart. Some things they agree on (Tired Beleaguered Dad Mat!) and disagree on (you'll have to listen to find out), but the only thing that actually matters is that Jenn was right about that dagger thing. (Why yes, Jenn did write these show notes, why do you ask?)Next episode: Crossroads of Twilight, Prologue - Chapter 1Patrons, keep an eye out for an update with instructions for the call-in show and for keeping your seat in the Discord! Check out Payal Mehta’s Romance Revenge Plot on GoodreadsCheck out The Riddler: Secrets in the Dark on Spotify Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Preeti and Jenn both really enjoyed this section (Rand! Elayne!! Mat!! No Seanchan POV!!!) but also have A LOT of questions about a lot of things. Like, so many questions. What the hell is anyone (other than Mat) doing?! Next episode: Chapters 30 - endYou can now add Preeti's debut YA rom-com on Goodreads! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Preeti and Jenn talk a lot about POV, authorial vs. editorial choices, and Jenn has a lot of ranty feelings about obfuscation. Also, Rand and Mat. Also also, there is a MAJOR disagreement about who killed this one guy. Happy listening, sorry not sorry!Next episode: Chapters 25-29.You can now add Preeti's debut YA rom-com on Goodreads! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FINALLY Jenn and Preeti are back and talking about the next section! Which features the return of everyone's favorite (ALSO FINALLY!) along with some very intense and uncomfortable POVs. Thank you as always to the Discord for reminding us what happened in past books, and for this interactive Wheel of Time timeline. Next episode: 19-24Spider-Man's Bad Connection is out!You can now catch Preeti on the Women of Marvel podcast! Also, read Preeti's Love Unlimited #66: Gambit & Rogue (on Marvel Unlimited)And Jenn is doing a giveaway for FIT FOR THE GODS over on the Lesbrary. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

While Preeti finishes up deadline hell, rather than leaving the feed quiet, Jenn and Preeti decided to do a quick "Ask Us Anything" about publishing! Thanks to all the patrons who submitted questions -- we hope you enjoy the answers.Writing Tools:MS Word (standard)Novels in Scrivner, revisions in WordPlotter for digital corkboard for plottingMarvel Comics: The Untold Story by Sean HoweSFF Yeah: Cover Talk episodeAgent Resources:Kate McKean’s Substack: Agents + BooksEricSmithRocks.comJenn Laughran on TumblrFit for the Gods: Greek Mythology ReimaginedSpider-Man's Bad Connection (September 5). Preorder from Brave + Kind Bookshop for signed books, or see Preeti at her launch!Gambit & Rogue series on Marvel Unlimited Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jenn and Preeti talk about the rollercoaster of events that exists in these chapters, including stuff that they do and do not remember from past reads, and have some additional thoughts about Mat and the Aiel.Next Chapters: 13-18The next episode will be delayed by Jenn's yearly camping pilgrimage, keep an eye out for it the week of August 23.Spider-Man's Bad Connection (September 5). Preorder from Brave + Kind Bookshop, or see Preeti at her launch!Love Unlimited #61: Gambit & Rogue Part One (on Marvel Unlimited)Fit for the Gods is out! Come see us at events! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In which we actually like Faile, we do not understand Berelain, and we too hope for good news along with Elayne. We also do a lot of on-the-fly explaining! Next episode, we'll cover Chapters 9-12. Our Books:Spider-Man's Bad Connection (September 5)Mermaids Never Drown (September)Fit for the Gods (August 1) - Preorder from Malaprop's! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

They're baaaaack! Jenn and Preeti talk through the longest Prologue yet (probably), plus two Perrin chapters, and do it in record time because not very much happens. But never fear, they still manage to have a lot of feelings about it.Next episode: Chapters 3-8Our Books:Spider-Man's Bad Connection (September 5)Mermaids Never Drown (September)Fit for the Gods (August 1) - Preorder from Malaprop's! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Path of Daggers comes to a close with both bangs and whimpers, and Jenn and Preeti are very confused and have many Questions. So. Many. Questions. Reminder that we're on hiatus until July, when we'll be starting Winter's Heart! Episode 1 will cover the Prologue through Chapter 2. Check out our books!Magic Has No Borders (May 23)Spider-Man's Bad Connection (September 5)The Grimoire of Grave Fates (June)Mermaids Never Drown (September)Fit for the Gods (August 1) - Preorder from Malaprop's! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jenn and Preeti exult in Egwene's secret plan revealed, are very concerned about Rand and his plans, and have some shout-outs and thoughts from Jordan Con and the Discord!Next episode: Chapter 25 - The EndPreorder books!Spider-Man's Bad Connection (September 5) Magic Has No Borders (May 23)The Grimoire of Grave Fates - JuneMermaids Never Drown - September (Vampires Never Get Old)Fit for the Gods - August 1 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this section, Preeti and Jenn encounter yet another Sekrit Plan, Sevanna finally starting to reap what she's sown, and a very bleak Rand. JordanCon is this weekend!Next episode: Chapters 18-24Pre-order Preeti's new books! Spider-Man's Bad Connection (September 5) and Magic Has No Borders (May 23) Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Preeti and Jenn get very excited for the return of some characters, get very frustrated with everyone being undercut and character-assassinated, and have some big questions about Balwer.We'll be at JordanCon! Read the first chapter of Preeti's new Spider-Man book (Spider-Man's Bad Connection) on io9!Next episode: Chapters 11-17 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As they start Path of Daggers, Preeti and Jenn are SUPER into the Prologue and less into the next four-ish chapters. Weird pacing choices, Robert Jordan!!Check out the JordanCon scheduleNext episode: Chapters 6-10 Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.