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Ray Rike & Dave Kellogg
SaaS Talk™ with the Metrics Brothers is hosted by Dave "CAC" Kellogg and Ray "Growth" Rike. SaaS Talk™ provides unique insights, strategies, tactics and the metrics to measure customer acquisition, customer retention and customer expansion success for B2B SaaS companies.Each 20-minute episode will cover a topic critical to profitable revenue growth chalked full of practical advice that can be introduced and applied in most B2B SaaS companies.
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Gross Revenue Retention

Gross Revenue Retention

On this episode, Dave "CAC" Kellogg and Ray "Growth" Rike discuss Gross Revenue Retention (GRR), aka Gross Dollar Retention (GDR), and the different nuances to consider when calculating this metric.In addition, Dave and Ray discuss why this metric is important, how to calculate GRR and how to use the results to inform decision making.The Metrics brothers discuss the following nuances of calculating Gross Revenue RetentionThe definition of GRRCohort vs Formula MethodWhat to exclude and include in GRRHow is GRR impacted by Product Led Growth and/or Usage-Based Pricing environmentsHow does Churn and GRR compare...are they the same thing?GRR vs NRR - which is most important?If you love the nuances and details of SaaS Metrics - this is a thought provoking episode that highlights the nuances to consider when calculating Gross Revenue RetentionSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
26:1805/09/2023
Customer Lifetime Value - It's not that simple - SaaS Talk with the Metrics Brothers

Customer Lifetime Value - It's not that simple - SaaS Talk with the Metrics Brothers

On this episode, Dave "CAC" Kellogg and Ray "Growth" Rike discuss Customer Lifetime Value, and the different input variables required to calculate this compound, multi-variable metric.The Metrics brothers discuss the following nuances of calculating Customer Lifetime ValueThe basics - CLTV or LTVRevenue or Gross ProfitWhich number to use for churn in the formula (GRR, Logo Churn, all ARR or only available to renew ARR)Which number to use for the Average Revenue Per Account (ARPA) - new customers only or all customersIf you love the nuances and details of SaaS Metrics - this is a thought provoking episode that highlights the important of gaining alignment of the CLTV and CAC metrics in your B2B SaaS companySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
21:3221/08/2023
Usage-Based Pricing and CAC - The calculation impact is significant

Usage-Based Pricing and CAC - The calculation impact is significant

On this episode, Dave "CAC" Kellogg and Ray "Growth" Rike discuss in detail how Usage-Based Pricing (UBP)  impacts the calculation of Customer Acquisition Cost and it's efficiency derivatives including CAC Ratio and CAC Payback Period.They discuss the three primary different types of Usage-Based Pricing Models including:Pure usage-based or consumption-based pricing with no minimum commitmentsMinimum commitment agreement that includes up to #x units and then overage $/unit over the minimumAnnual Subscription agreement to the platform and a $/unit of usage in addition to the annual subscriptionEach of the above models can impact what is consider Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR), Variable Recurrring Revenue (VRR) and/or pure variable revenue - and that will accordingly impact the CAC efficiency metric calculation methodology.If you love the nuances and details of SaaS Metric and how emerging GTM models impact traditional metrics calculations - this episode is for you!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
22:5415/08/2023
Product Led Growth and the impact on Customer Acquisition Cost

Product Led Growth and the impact on Customer Acquisition Cost

The Metrics Brothers discuss how Product-Led Growth (PLG) including the use of Freemiums and/or Free Trials impacts the Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) calculation. Each PLG model may have different times to value, conversion rates to paid users, different definitions of when a free user becomes a customer which all can impact the CAC calculation formula and the resultant usefulness of the metricsDuring this weeks episode, Dave "CAC" Kellogg and Ray "Growth" Rike discuss CAC Payback Period, and provide a little entertainment along the journey to using CAC Payback Period in your SaaS company.SummarySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
23:3601/08/2023
CAC Payback Period

CAC Payback Period

The Metrics Brothers discuss the use of Customer Acquisition Cost Payback Period (CAC Payback Period). On the surface CAC Payback Period (CPP) is easy to understand, yet in practice there are many nuances and considerations such as using Gross Margin in the CPP calculation, and if CAC Payback Period is an efficiency, risk or return metric.During this weeks episode, Dave "CAC" Kellogg and Ray "Growth" Rike discuss CAC Payback Period, and provide a little entertainment along the journey to using CAC Payback Period in your SaaS company.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
22:1626/07/2023
Advanced Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC)

Advanced Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC)

The Metrics Brothers discuss advanced topics and uses of Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) and the CAC Ratio. On the surface CAC and CAC related metrics appear easy to understand, yet in practice there are many nuances, considerations and approaches to optimize the insights provided by CAC.During this weeks episode, Dave "CAC" Kellogg and Ray "Growth" Rike discuss those advanced topics, and provide a little entertainment along the journey to using CAC in your SaaS company.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
27:3818/07/2023
CAC and CAC Ratio

CAC and CAC Ratio

The Metrics Brothers discuss Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) and the CAC Ratio. The two metrics are closely related, yet are fundamentally two very different SaaS metrics. During this weeks episode, Dave "CAC" Kellogg and Ray "Growth" Rike discuss the value of each metric, when to use them and how to calculate each metric.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
23:5611/07/2023
Pipeline Financial Return Measurements

Pipeline Financial Return Measurements

How do B2B SaaS leaders measure the financial returns on pipeline generation? On the surface this question may seem quite simple, but one with that presents several options, especially when considering how a CFO evaluates return on investment. The Metrics Brothers, Dave "CAC" Kellogg and Ray "Growth" Rike dive deep into the nuances and considerations of pipeline returns on this week's episode of SaaS Talk™ with the Metrics Brothers.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
22:3404/07/2023
Pipeline Measurements

Pipeline Measurements

In this episode of SaaS Talk™ with the Metrics Brothers, Dave "CAC" Kellogg and Ray "Growth Rike discuss Pipeline MeasurementsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
24:0729/06/2023
Pipeline Generation

Pipeline Generation

In this episode of SaaS Talk™ with the Metrics Brothers, Dave "CAC" Kellogg and Ray "Growth" Rike, they discuss all things Pipeline GenerationSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
22:2520/06/2023
SaaS Talk™ with the Metrics Brothers - Ray "Growth" Rike & Dave "CAC" Kellogg

SaaS Talk™ with the Metrics Brothers - Ray "Growth" Rike & Dave "CAC" Kellogg

SaaS Talk™ dives deep into the world of Software as a Service, discussing the successes and hurdles that C-suite leaders in the SaaS industry encounter.Co-hosted by Ray Rike, CEO of Rev Ops Squared, and Dave Kellogg, Executive In Residence at Balderton Capital and Principal at Dave Kellogg Consulting, this podcast brings forth insights and perspectives from esteemed SaaS leaders. They share knowledge and experience on a wide array of topics, including SaaS strategy, business model innovation, customer success management, revenue operations, SaaS metrics, infrastructure and security, and data-driven decision-making.Whether you're a C-suite executive in a SaaS company, an ambitious tech entrepreneur, or simply eager to delve into the SaaS landscape, SaaS Talk has you covered. Our guests reveal their real-world experiences and practical advice, along with their perspectives on emerging trends and technologies in AI, Machine Learning, and Cloud Services.If you're eager to stay at the forefront in the rapidly evolving world of SaaS, tune in to SaaS Talk. Discover what it takes to excel as a C-suite leader in today's dynamic and ever-changing tech landscape.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
21:4910/05/2023