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Welcome to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast with host and AI regulation expert Sanjay Puri. Sanjay is a pivotal leader at the intersection of technology, policy and entrepreneurship and explores the intricate landscape of artificial intelligence governance on this podcast. You can expect thought-provoking conversations with global leaders as they tackle the challenge of regulating AI without stifling innovation. With diverse perspectives from industry giants, government officials and civil liberty proponents, each episode explores key questions and actionable steps for creating a balanced AI-driven world. Don't miss this essential guide to the future of AI governance, with a fresh episode available every week!
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Unpacking AI's Ethical Implications and Future with Expert Beth Rudden

Unpacking AI's Ethical Implications and Future with Expert Beth Rudden

In a world where AI shapes our daily lives, ethical considerations are paramount. In this episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Beth Rudden, CEO of Bast AI and a trailblazer in AI ethics. Her journey from IBM to leading Bast AI offers a unique lens on the intricate relationship between AI, ethics and technology.Key Takeaways:(01:25) Insights into diverse perspectives on AI regulation.(02:24) Beth discusses the ethical risks in AI development.(03:38) The importance of education in AI ethics and technology.(05:05) Emphasizing explainable AI in regulation.(06:35) Discussing the role of data privacy and dignity.(09:01) The necessity of transparency in AI systems.(12:16) The impact of AI on social media and communication.(15:33) Core ethical principles in AI development.(19:25) The role of accountability in AI systems.(22:09) The concept of AI as a community utility.(26:39) Beth's views on creating unbiased AI systems.(30:17) The importance of human rights and privacy in AI.(34:27) Addressing AI's role in societal issues.Resources Mentioned:Beth Rudden - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brudden/Joy Boulamwini's "Unmasking AI" - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/670356/unmasking-ai-by-joy-buolamwini/EU AI Act - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:52021PC0206Bast AI Website - https://bast.ai/Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
38:2302/02/2024
Educating Society on Responsible Use of AI with Haniyeh Mahmoudian at DataRobot and NAIAC

Educating Society on Responsible Use of AI with Haniyeh Mahmoudian at DataRobot and NAIAC

Creating a safe and ethical AI system starts at its conception. On this episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Haniyeh Mahmoudian, Ph.D., distinguished Global AI Ethicist at DataRobot and Advisor to NAIAC (National AI Advisory Committee). We discuss AI regulation, ethical considerations and the importance of education around responsible use of AI.Key Takeaways:(02:09) Insights into President Biden’s AI Executive Order.(04:32) The importance of private-public partnerships in AI education and workforce upskilling.(06:35) The need for realistic job qualifications in AI-related fields.(08:23) The EU AI Act, its risk framework for AI use cases and the need for flexible and adaptable legislative frameworks in AI regulation.(11:42) The US's approach to AI regulation compared to the EU.(15:59) Ethical risks in AI development, particularly the lack of education in AI literacy. (18:55) Ensuring historically marginalized communities can participate in and benefit from AI advancements.(21:04) The need for robust governance processes and accountability at every stage of AI development and deployment.(23:53) Challenges and benefits of democratizing AI technology access.(25:50) The necessity of companies disclosing their use of AI systems to end-users. (27:12) Concerns about the impact of AI, particularly deepfakes, on democracy.Resources Mentioned:Haniyeh Mahmoudian - https://www.linkedin.com/in/haniyeh-mahmoudian-ph-d-78a18072DataRobot - https://www.linkedin.com/company/datarobotPresident Biden’s Executive Order on AI - https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/10/30/executive-order-on-the-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence/EU AI Act - https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/headlines/society/20230601STO93804/eu-ai-act-first-regulation-on-artificial-intelligenceNational AI Advisory Committee Recommendations - https://ai.gov/naiac/Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
31:0625/01/2024
Delving Into the Future of Responsible AI with Dr. Ravit Dotan

Delving Into the Future of Responsible AI with Dr. Ravit Dotan

This era of rapid technological advancement can make finding the equilibrium between innovation and responsible governance difficult. On this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Ravit Dotan, Founder and CEO of TechBetter, Responsible AI Advocate of Bria and AI Ethicist. We discuss the complexities of AI regulation in our modern world. We also focus on the pivotal role policies and ethics play in steering the course of AI toward a future that benefits all. Key Takeaways:(01:18) Discussing President Biden’s Executive Order on AI and its implications for a new era of regulation.(03:02) Contrasting the divergent paths of the US and UK in AI regulation.(07:18) Investigating AI regulation’s influence on innovation.(08:22) Assessing the ethical risks of misinformation within AI systems.(12:13) Addressing the amplification of biases in AI decision-making.(16:42) The challenge of achieving fairness in AI.(17:40) The necessity of banning harmful AI applications.(19:52) The role of AI ethics officers in organizations.(21:30) Analyzing responsibility in AI-related incidents.(24:26) The influence of major tech companies on AI’s direction.(30:50) Discussing strategies against AI deepfakes in political campaigns.Resources Mentioned:Dr. Ravit Dotan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ravit-dotan/TechBetter - https://www.linkedin.com/company/techbetter/Bria - https://www.linkedin.com/company/briaai/President Biden’s Executive Order on AI - https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/10/30/fact-sheet-president-biden-issues-executive-order-on-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-artificial-intelligence/EU AI Act - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:52021PC0206Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
33:4822/01/2024
Balancing AI Innovation and Civil Liberties with Esha Bhandari of ACLU

Balancing AI Innovation and Civil Liberties with Esha Bhandari of ACLU

On this episode of Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly, I am thrilled to host Esha Bhandari, the Deputy Project Director of the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union), who shares her expertise in AI and civil liberties​​. Esha is also a Member of the Law Enforcement Subcommittee of the National AI Advisory and Adjunct Professor of Clinical Law at the New York University School of Law.We explore the complex relationship between artificial intelligence and civil liberties, discussing the implications of AI regulation, the challenges posed by algorithmic bias and the potential impact of AI on various sectors, including law enforcement, housing and employment.Key Takeaways:(01:59) Esha’s perspective on President Biden’s Executive Order on AI, emphasizing the inclusion of civil liberties and civil rights.(04:01) Challenges in law enforcement and national security contexts regarding AI.(07:56) A discussion on the potential of a separate government agency for AI regulation.(10:41) The balancing act between preventing AI from replicating societal biases and fostering innovation.(12:53) The question of liability in AI systems: developer, deployer, or user?(14:21) Keeping pace with rapid AI advancements in policy and legislation.(18:51) The ACLU’s stance on open-source technology and AI.(25:01) The role AI regulation plays on a global scale.(26:44) Addressing the potential impacts of AI on upcoming elections and protecting civil liberties.Resources Mentioned:Esha Bhandari -https://www.linkedin.com/in/eshabhandari/ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) -https://www.linkedin.com/company/aclu/President Biden’s Executive Order on AI -https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/10/30/executive-order-on-the-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence/Discussions on AI Regulation in the EU -https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/headlines/society/20230601STO93804/eu-ai-act-first-regulation-on-artificial-intelligenceThanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
30:1918/01/2024
Delving Into AI Ethics, Safety and Global Regulations with Stuart Russell

Delving Into AI Ethics, Safety and Global Regulations with Stuart Russell

On this episode, I'm delighted to be joined by a leading mind in AI, Stuart Russell, Professor of Computer Science at UC Berkeley; Former Chair of the Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Program at UC Berkeley; Holder of the Smith-Zadeh Chair in Engineering; Director of the Center for Human-Compatible AI; Author of Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach, which is currently part of the curriculum in 1,500 universities in 135 countries and translated into 20 languages.Our conversation ventures into the depths of AI's potential, its impact on society and the critical role of legislation in shaping a safe and prosperous AI-powered future.Key Takeaways:(00:56) Introduction of Professor Stuart Russell and his significant contributions to AI.(02:22) Analysis of the Biden Executive Order on AI and its limitations.(03:49) Evolution and current status of the EU AI Act.(07:31) The paradox of open-source AI in regulatory contexts.(08:31) The challenge of controlling AI systems that are more powerful than humans.(13:08) The necessity of proactive safety measures in AI development.(15:12) The potential risks and concerns around AI agents.(17:02) Balancing innovation and regulation in AI.(19:20) Adapting AI legislation to technological advancements.(21:49) The need for a dedicated regulatory agency for AI.(26:08) Global collaboration on AI safety and national security.(30:33) Public perception and education on AI safety.(34:23) The role of AI in national security and ethical concerns.(37:04) The impact of AI and deepfakes on the 2024 elections.Resources Mentioned:Stuart Russell - https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuartjonathanrussell/President Biden’s Executive Order on AI - https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/10/30/fact-sheet-president-biden-issues-executive-order-on-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-artificial-intelligence/EU AI Act - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:52021PC0206Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
38:2016/01/2024
Balancing AI Risks and Promises with Congresswoman Anna Eshoo

Balancing AI Risks and Promises with Congresswoman Anna Eshoo

On this episode, I'm joined by Congresswoman Anna Eshoo, Co-Chair of AI Caucus. Time Magazine has selected Anna as one of the 100 most influential people in AI, and I’m delighted to hear her invaluable insights into the legislative challenges and opportunities in the world of AI.Key Takeaways:(01:23) The role of the National AI Research Resource in President Biden’s executive order.(03:20) The urgency for Congress to enact durable AI statutes.(05:31) Objectives of the Create AI Act in making AI accessible to diverse sectors.(08:03) The dynamic nature of AI policy and state-level legislation's role.(10:43) The security implications of open-source AI models.(12:18) Addressing the threat of deepfakes in elections.(14:29) Strategies for workforce reskilling and attracting global AI talent.(18:15) Democratizing AI to avert monopolistic trends.(20:38) US Rep. Eshoo's predictions on the AI legislative timeline.Resources Mentioned:Anna Eshoo - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-eshoo-b0392095/President Biden’s Executive Order on AI - https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/10/30/fact-sheet-president-biden-issues-executive-order-on-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-artificial-intelligence/National AI Research Resource - https://www.whitehouse.gov/ostp/news-updates/2023/01/24/national-artificial-intelligence-research-resource-task-force-releases-final-report/Keep STEM Talent Act 2021 - https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5924?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22h.r.+5924%22%2C%22h.r.%22%2C%225924%22%5D%7D&s=1&r=2Create AI Act - https://eshoo.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/eshoo.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/eshoo_043_xml.pdfThanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
21:3211/01/2024
Advocacy for Startups in AI Policy with Nathan Lindfors of Engine

Advocacy for Startups in AI Policy with Nathan Lindfors of Engine

Navigating the labyrinth of AI policy is a daunting task, especially for startups. In this episode, I explore this complex world with Nathan Lindfors, who brings unique insights from his role as Policy Director of Engine, an organization at the forefront of advocating for startup interests in the AI realm.Key Takeaways:(01:40) The mission and goals of Engine in advocating for startups.(02:40) How startups differ from companies like OpenAI and Anthropic in the AI space.(04:22) The role of Engine in educating startups on AI policy developments.(05:33) Nathan’s take on President Biden’s Executive Order on AI.(09:12) Concerns over regulatory capture impacting startup innovation.(10:28) The debate around open-sourcing AI models.(13:17) Addressing the risks of AI tools falling into the hands of bad actors.(16:46) Liability issues in AI and their impact on startups.(19:50) Preparing the workforce for the future of AI.(23:25) The need for transparent AI usage disclosures by companies.(25:28) Discussion on the complexities of global versus regional AI regulations.Resources Mentioned:Nathan Lindfors -https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-lindfors-24032b150/Engine -https://www.linkedin.com/company/engine-advocacy/Engine Advocacy for Startups -https://www.linkedin.com/company/engine-advocacy/President Biden’s Executive Order on AI -https://www.whitehouse.gov/Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
32:0821/12/2023
Balancing AI Advancements With Public Safety and Transparency with Senator Pete Ricketts

Balancing AI Advancements With Public Safety and Transparency with Senator Pete Ricketts

As artificial intelligence continues to revolutionize our society, the need for thoughtful regulation becomes increasingly crucial. In this episode, I have the honor of discussing these challenges with Senator Pete Ricketts from Nebraska. With his background in governance and entrepreneurship, Senator Ricketts offers invaluable insights into the legislative aspects of AI. Together, we delve into how to harness AI responsibly for the benefit of all.Key Takeaways:(01:45) Introduction of a bill for watermarking AI-generated materials.(03:15) Addressing the concerns of deepfakes and intellectual property in the AI sphere.(04:01) AI’s transformative potential and the critical need for careful regulation.(05:19) The impact of AI on national security and election processes.(05:44) The importance of including small businesses and educational institutions in AI legislation.(07:00) The need for federal preemption over state laws to avoid a patchwork of AI regulations.(08:08) The role of workforce reskilling and talent attraction in AI development.(10:03) Predictions for the timeline of comprehensive AI legislation in Congress.Resources Mentioned:Senator Ricketts’ AI Watermarking Bill - https://www.ricketts.senate.gov/press-releases/ricketts-introduces-bill-to-combat-deepfakes-require-watermarks-on-a-i-generated-content/National Security Implications of AI - https://www.csis.org/analysis/addressing-national-security-implications-aiAI’s Role in Elections - https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-ai-will-transform-the-2024-elections/Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
12:3018/12/2023
Exploring the Future of AI Regulation With a Congressional Insight

Exploring the Future of AI Regulation With a Congressional Insight

Navigating the complexities of AI isn’t just about technology. It’s about sculpting our future. In this episode, I’m joined by Congressman Jay Obernolte, representing California’s 23rd district and serving as the vice-chair of the congressional AI caucus. With a rich background in AI and a keen eye for policy, Congressman Obernolte offers invaluable insights into the intricate dance of AI innovation and regulation.Key Takeaways:(02:06) Assessing President Biden’s Executive Order on AI and concerns of regulatory overreach.(04:54) Exploring the Create AI Act’s goal to democratize AI research across academia.(06:41) Addressing the risk of regulatory capture in the AI industry.(08:57) Evaluating the role of AI in hiring and the inherent challenges of bias.(11:05) Debating the need for a new AI regulatory structure.(14:25) Delving into the implications of open-source AI.(16:08) Highlighting the role of AI in spreading misinformation and the importance of transparency.(18:19) Emphasizing the need for diverse perspectives in shaping AI regulation.(19:44) Advocating for federal over regional or global AI regulation models.(21:42) Offering predictions on the timeline and direction of comprehensive AI legislation in Congress.Resources Mentioned:Congressman Jay Obernolte - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayobernolte/President Biden’s Executive Order on AI - https://www.whitehouse.gov/Create AI Act - https://www.congress.gov/Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
23:5714/12/2023
The Role of MLOps Community in Influencing AI Policymaking

The Role of MLOps Community in Influencing AI Policymaking

Are we ready for the AI revolution? How do we balance innovation with regulation? On this episode, I’m joined by Demetrios Brinkmann, Founder and CEO of the MLOps Community, to explore AI's impact on global economies, security and workforce, and the challenges in creating effective regulatory frameworks.Key Takeaways:(00:51) The dual role of AI in boosting GDP and posing a threat to workforce and national security.(01:10) The US Congress' efforts to create a legislative framework for AI.(02:14) The significance of the MLOps community in AI production.(03:05) The impact of global AI regulations on the MLOps community.(03:40) President Biden's Executive Order on AI and the challenges in regulating large language models.(08:01) The EU's AI Act focusing on risk management and post-market monitoring.(14:41) Identifying key risks from AI that require regulation.(21:24) The debate over open-sourcing LLMs.(26:15) Concerns about regulatory capture by big tech companies.(30:38) The importance of global or regional AI regulations.Resources Mentioned:Demetrios Brinkmann - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dpbrinkm/MLOps Community - https://ai-infrastructure.org/mlops-community-now/President Biden's Executive Order on AI - https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/10/30/executive-order-on-the-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence/EU AI Act - https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/headlines/society/20230601STO93804/eu-ai-act-first-regulation-on-artificial-intelligenceThanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
37:5307/12/2023
The Role of AI in Job Creation and Global Tech Leadership

The Role of AI in Job Creation and Global Tech Leadership

In this episode, I’m joined by former Governor Terry McAuliffe, who shares his insights on the future of AI and its impact on job creation, national security and global technological dominance. With his extensive experience in both politics and entrepreneurship, Governor McAuliffe provides a unique perspective on the necessary steps the United States must make to take the lead in AI innovation and regulation.Key Takeaways:(02:08) The significance of President Biden’s Executive Order on AI.(03:46) The need for long-term, consistent AI standards and legislation.(04:25) Addressing public concerns about AI and job displacement.(06:16) The importance of establishing a regulatory agency for AI.(07:37) Promoting AI education starting from kindergarten.(09:18) Proposing a scholarship program for AI studies.(10:19) AI’s role in maintaining global leadership and job growth.(12:34) AI is a crucial aspect of national security.Resources Mentioned:President Biden’s Executive Order on AINational Science Foundation (NSF)National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
13:1222/11/2023
Balancing Innovation With Social Responsibility in the Age of AI

Balancing Innovation With Social Responsibility in the Age of AI

Individual progress in technology isn’t just about personal achievement; it’s about shaping the future for society. On this episode, I’m joined by Congressman Don Beyer, US Representative for Virginia’s 8th District and Vice Chair of the AI Caucus in the House of Representatives, who brings a unique perspective to the table with his dedication to understanding and shaping AI legislation.Key Takeaways:(01:29) Congressman Beyer’s unique approach to learning about AI.(02:55) The significance of President Biden’s Executive Order on AI.(03:46) The debate on creating a separate regulatory agency for AI.(06:36) The importance of democratizing AI through legislation like the Create AI Act.(08:46) The pros and cons of open-sourcing AI models.(12:10) AI’s role in political advertising and the need for ethical considerations.(16:22) How AI will impact workforce and immigration policies.(20:12) The priorities for AI legislation in Congress.Resources Mentioned:Congressman Don Beyer - https://www.linkedin.com/in/don-beyer-6b444b4/House of Representatives - https://www.linkedin.com/company/u.s.-house-of-representatives/President Biden’s Executive Order on AI - https://www.whitehouse.gov/Create AI Act - https://www.congress.gov/Discussions on AI with EU Parliamentarians - https://www.europarl.europa.eu/National AI Research Resource - https://www.nsf.gov/Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
26:1217/11/2023
Navigating the Challenges of AI Legislation

Navigating the Challenges of AI Legislation

The potential of AI is limitless, yet its implications are complex and multifaceted. Striking a balance between innovation and regulation is crucial for harnessing its benefits while safeguarding against risks.In this episode, I sit down with Raja Krishnamoorthi, US Congressman, Representing Illinois 8th District, to delve deep into the world of AI, its possibilities, its dangers and how the US is positioning itself in this global race.Key Takeaways:(02:36) The necessity of AI regulation. (03:06) Debating a potential AI regulatory agency. (04:09) Concerns about global competitiveness, especially China’s AI advances.(04:52) Introduction of the P.A.S.T. model for AI legislation: Privacy, Accountability, Security and Transparency. (07:00) Concerns about regulatory capture by corporations and the need for diverse perspectives. (08:35) Thoughts on open-sourcing large AI language models and implications. (13:10) The geopolitical impact of AI development, especially in China’s context. (15:48) Worries about deepfake technology and its election impact.(21:34) Congressional challenges and ambitious goals for AI regulations, with potential timing considerations.Resources Mentioned:Raja Krishnamoorthi - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajakrishnamoorthi/US Congressman - https://www.linkedin.com/company/u.s.-house-of-representatives/Thanks for listening to the Regulating AI: Innovate Responsibly podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.#AIRegulation #AISafety #AIStandard
22:5025/10/2023