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Read This is a show about the books we love and the stories behind them, hosted by Michael Williams. Every Thursday, you’ll hear insightful conversations with the smartest, funniest readers and writers we know and in-depth interviews with the best Australian and international authors talking about their lives and their work. You’ll never be left wondering what to read next.
Charlotte Wood Thinks Restraint Is Underrated
Charlotte Wood became a mainstay in Australia’s literary firmament in 2015 following the release of her award-winning novel, The Natural Way of Things. Her latest book, Stone Yard Devotional, is her most personal yet. It’s a meditation on grief, solitude, what it means to live a good life, and what we owe one another. This week, Michael sits down with Charlotte to discuss her new book, and she shares the psychic catastrophe that informed its final form.
Reading list:
The Natural Way of Things, Charlotte Wood, 2015
The Weekend, Charlotte Wood, 2019
The Luminous Solution, Charlotte Wood, 2021
Stone Yard Devotional, Charlotte Wood, 2023
Gilead, Marilynne Robinson, 2004
Gilgamesh, Joan London, 2001
The Golden Age, Joan London, 2014
The Wren, The Wren, Anne Enright, 2023
Women and Children, Tony Birch, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Charlotte Wood
27:3901/11/2023
It’s Trent Frickin’ Dalton
Trent Dalton’s debut novel, Boy Swallows Universe, has sold more than a million copies worldwide, making Trent one of Australia’s most successful contemporary authors. His latest book is called Lola in the Mirror, and it’s the third – and perhaps final – in a loose trilogy following young people in peril on the fringes of society. This week, Michael sits down with Trent to discuss this new work, where his boundless enthusiasm comes from, and his plans for the future.
Reading list:
Boy Swallows Universe, Trent Dalton, 2014
All Our Shimmering Skies, Trent Dalton, 2018
Lola in the Mirror, Trent Dalton, 2023
The Opposite of Success, Eleanor Elliott Thomas, 2023
Boy Friends, Michael Pederson, 2022
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Trent Dalton
29:4725/10/2023
Robyn Davidson and the Impossible Book
Robyn Davidson was just 27 when she trekked across the Australian desert. This epic journey was captured in her 1980 memoir Tracks, which became a national and international success. Her new book, Unfinished Woman, is her attempt to grapple with both her own life before and after Tracks, and with the story of her mother, who committed suicide when Robyn was only 11 years old. This week, Michael sits down with Robyn to discuss fear, loneliness and how she completed her self-proclaimed “impossible memoir”.
Reading list:
Tracks, Robyn Davidson, 1980
Unfinished Woman, Robyn Davidson 2023
See below for some of the First Nations Writers that Michael recommends reading:
Tara June Winch, Melissa Lucashenko, Alexis Wright, Ally Cobby Eckerman, Tony Birch, Anita Heiss, Evelyn Araluen, Chelsea Watego, Kirli Saunders, Ellen van Neerven, Larissa Behrendt, Aileen Moreton Robinson, Jackie Huggins, Kim Scott, Jane Harrison, Nardi Simpson.
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Robyn Davidson
27:3418/10/2023
David Marr vs Australia’s Old Lie
For many Australians, facing the reality of this country is a task that has proved enduringly difficult, both at a public and a political level. For investigative journalist David Marr, finding the right way to tell the stories that allow us to see the truth of our history is a personal quest and one that has led to his latest book. This week, Michael talks with David about shame – both personal and national – and why his family agreed that he had to write Killing for Country.
Reading list:
Patrick White: A Life, David Marr, 1991
My Country: Stories, Essays & Speeches, David Marr, 2018
Killing for Country, David Marr, 2023
Septology, Jon Fosse, 2022
The Hummingbird Effect, Kate Mildenhall, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: David Marr
28:3311/10/2023
Melissa Lucashenko is our Poet Laureate of Ratbags
Melissa Lucashenko writes about big ideas and brutal experiences, but she does so with grace, with generosity and – maybe above all else – a rich sense of humour. This week, Michael sits down with Melissa for a conversation about her new book, Edenglassie, and they discuss history, eccentric characters, and why writing a love story is a revolutionary act.
Reading list:
Hard Yards, Melissa Lucashenko, 1999
Too Flash, Melissa Lucashenko, 2002
Mullumbimby, Melissa Lucashenko, 2013
Too Much Lip, Melissa Lucashenko, 2018
Edenglassie, Melissa Lucashenko, 2023
The Fortunes of Richard Mahony, Henry Handel Richardson, 1925
For the Term of His Natural Life, Marcus Clarke, 1874
The Secret Hours, Mick Herron, 2023
Gunflower, Laura Jean McKay, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Melissa Lucashenko
28:0304/10/2023
The Three Words That Made George Saunders a Writer
George Saunders is one of literary fiction's most acclaimed living writers. Along with his many collections of short stories, he also published the Booker Prize-winning novel Lincoln in the Bardo. This week, Michael chats with him about his life and career, and George reveals the three words that made him a writer.
Reading list:
CivilWarLand in Bad Decline, George Saunders,1996
Pastoralia, George Saunders, 2000
In Persuasion Nation, George Saunders, 2006
Tenth of December: Stories, George Saunders, 2013
Lincoln in the Bardo, George Saunders, 2017
A Swim in a Pond in the Rain: In Which Four Russians Give a Master Class on Writing, Reading, and Life, George Saunders, 2021
Liberation Day: Stories, George Saunders, 2022
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, James Joyce, 1916
To Have and Have Not, Ernest Hemingway, 1937
The Old Man and the Sea, Ernest Hemingway, 1952
The Little Disturbances of Man, Grace Paley, 1959
Ordinary Gods and Monsters, Chris Womersley, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: George Saunders
29:5227/09/2023
Daniel Browning Has Something to Say
If you've tuned into ABC Radio over the past few decades, you've likely heard the dulcet tones of Daniel Browning's voice. In his new book Close to the Subject, Daniel reveals himself to be just as brilliant a storyteller on the page as he is over the air waves. This week, Michael speaks with Daniel about what 30 years in broadcast journalism has taught him about art, life, and being brave.
Reading list:
Close to the Subject, Daniel Browning, 2023
Unfinished Woman, Robyn Davidson, 2023
The Last Devil To Die (The Thursday Murder Club Book 4), Richard Osman, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Daniel Browning
24:3220/09/2023
Eleanor Catton Has Her Doubts about Certainty
Eleanor Catton was just 28 when she won the Booker Prize for her novel The Luminaries. Her much anticipated follow-up, Birnam Wood, is an eco thriller, a Shakespearean tragedy, a satire and novel of manners all rolled into one. This week, Michael sits down with Eleanor to discuss her latest book and the dangers of feeling ideologically certain.
Reading list:
The Rehearsal, Eleanor Catton, 2008
The Luminaries, Eleanor Catton, 2013
Birnam Wood, Eleanor Catton, 2023
The People's Platform, Astra Taylor, 2014
Green Dot, Madeleine Gray, 2023
Songs for the Dead and the Living, Sara M Saleh, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Eleanor Catton
24:4913/09/2023
Kate Grenville Makes History
Kate Grenville has spent her career bringing history to life, often using the lives of her own family to tell stories about the kinds of voices who are often left out of the official record. This week, Michael heads to Kate's house to discuss her latest novel, Restless Dolly Maunder, and why she is preparing for the chance that someday someone’s going to rifle through her life and make up their own stories.
Reading list:
Lilian's Story, Kate Grenville, 1985
Joan Makes History: A Novel, Kate Grenville, 1988
The Idea of Perfection, Kate Grenville, 1999
The Secret River, Kate Grenville, 2005
One Life: My Mother's Story, Kate Grenville, 2015
The Case Against Fragrance, Kate Grenville, 2017
Restless Dolly Maunder, Kate Grenville, 2023
The Bee Sting, Paul Murray, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Kate Grenville
24:2506/09/2023
Sarah Krasnostein Was Wrong About Peter Carey
Writer and journalist Sarah Krasnostein initially found Australian fiction alienating, but that all changed when she picked up Peter Carey's seminal work True History of the Kelly Gang. This week Sarah discusses how reading that book challenged her expectations and why many people who own Peter Carey's work might be surprised to discover what his books are actually saying.
Reading list:
The Trauma Cleaner: One Woman's Extraordinary Life In Death, Decay & Disaster, Sarah Krasnostein, 2019
On Peter Carey: Writers on Writers, Sarah Krasnostein, 2023
The Fat Man in History and Other Stories, Peter Carey, 1974
Jack Maggs, Peter Carey, 1987
Oscar and Lucinda, Peter Carey, 1988
True History of the Kelly Gang, Peter Carey, 2000
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
To register for Sarah’s event at the State Library Victoria on Friday 1 September at 6:30pm, click here.
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Guest: Sarah Krasnostein
26:0030/08/2023
Daniel Lavery Has Some Advice for You
Back in 2015, Daniel Lavery took over Slate's long running advice column, Dear Prudence, using his sometimes snarky, often hilarious, and always insightful writing to respond to other peoples’ confessions. This week he chats with Michael about how his own experiences – of transitioning, of family estrangement, of falling in love – all informed the ways he talked to those anonymous commenters on the internet.
Reading list:
Dear Prudence: Liberating Lessons from Slate.com's Beloved Advice Column, Daniel M. Lavery, 2023
Something That May Shock and Discredit You, Daniel M. Lavery, 2020
Middlemarch, George Eliot, 1871
God Forgets About the Poor, Peter Polites, 2023
Would that be Funny? Growing up with John Clarke, Lorin Clarke, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Daniel M. Lavery
34:1923/08/2023
Leigh Sales Is a Professional Stickybeak
Long before she was hosting 7:30 on the ABC, Leigh Sales dreamed of becoming a novelist. This week she joins Michael to discuss her secret desire to write fiction, the art of crafting a good story, and how being a journalist allowed her to become a professional stickybeak.
Reading list:
Detainee 002: the case of David Hicks, Leigh Sales 2007
Any Ordinary Day: Blindsides, Resilience And What Happens After The Worst Day Of Your Life, Leigh Sales, 2019
On Doubt, Leigh Sales, 2020
Storytellers: Questions, Answers and the Craft of Journalism, Leigh Sales, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Leigh Sales
29:4616/08/2023
The Restlessness of Christos Tsiolkas
Christos Tsiolkas burst onto Australia's publishing scene in 1995 with his grunge-lit novel Loaded. Since then he has published seven books of fiction, including The Slap. This week, Christos joins Michael for a discussion on how becoming part of the literary establishment has changed the author, why he finds bodies endlessly fascinating, and his forthcoming book The In-Between.
Reading list:
Loaded, Christos Tsiolkas, 1995
The Jesus Man, Christos Tsiolkas, 1999
Dead Europe, Christos Tsiolkas, 2005
The Slap, Christos Tsiolkas, 2008
Barracuda, Christos Tsiolkas, 2013
Merciless Gods, Christos Tsiolkas, 2014
Damascus, Christos Tsiolkas, 2019
7 1/2, Christos Tsiolkas, 2021
The In-Between, Christos Tsiolkas, forthcoming in 2023
Crime and Punishment, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, 1866
Our Lady of the Flowers (Notre Dame des Fleurs), Jean Genet, 1942/1943
City of Night, John Rechy, 1963
You can find these books at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Christos Tsiolkas
24:0809/08/2023
Colson Whitehead Loves a Doomed Heist
Reading Colson Whitehead, you never know what you're going to get. He’ll write a non-fiction book about poker one minute and a multi-award-winning epic about slavery and race in America the next. This week, the two-time Pulitzer prize winning author joins us for a discussion about his latest novel Crook Manifesto and why he loves a doomed heist.
Reading list:
The Intuitionist, Colson Whitehead, 1999
John Henry Days, Colson Whitehead, 2001
Apex Hides the Hurt, Colson Whitehead, 2006
Sag Harbor, Colson Whitehead, 2009
Zone One, Colson Whitehead, 2011
The Underground Railroad, Colson Whitehead, 2016
The Nickel Boys, Colson Whitehead, 2019
Harlem Shuffle, Colson Whitehead, 2021
Crook Manifesto, Colson Whitehead, 2023
Empire of Pain: The Secret History of the Sackler Dynasty, Patrick Radden Keefe, 2021
The Wager: A Tale of Shipwreck, Mutiny and Murder, David Grann, 2023
Firelight, John Morrissey, 2015
Biography of X, Catherine Lacey, 2023
You can find these books at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Colson Whitehead
25:1302/08/2023
Shankari Chandran Nearly Gave up Writing
Chai Time at Cinnamon Gardens is the book Shankari Chandran always wanted to write. After being rejected by publishers, Shankari decided to write for herself and finally tackle the subject she'd been avoiding: Race in Australia. In doing so, she has won the Miles Franklin award and changed the trajectory of her writing career.
Reading list:
Chai Time at Cinnamon Gardens, Shankari Chandran, 2022
Song of the Sun God, Shankari Chandran, 2017
The Barrier, Shankari Chandran, 2017
Hopeless Kingdom, Kgshak Akec, 2022
Limberlost, Robbie Arnott, 2022
Cold Enough for Snow, Jessica Au, 2022
The Lovers, Yumna Kassab, 2022
Iris, Fiona Kelly McGregor, 2022
You can find these books at your favourite independent book store. Or if you want to listen to them as audiobooks, you can head to the Read This reading room on Apple Books.
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Guest: Shankari Chandran and Kate McClymont
27:2526/07/2023
Tony Birch Doesn’t Believe in Luck
Award-winning writer and historian Tony Birch grew up listening to stories from his nan, Alma. This week, Tony shares how Alma's advice has influenced his life and his writing.
Reading list:
Shadowboxing, Tony Birch, 2006
Blood, Tony Birch, 2011
Ghost River, Tony Birch, 2015
Common People, Tony Birch, 2017
The White Girl, Tony Birch, 2019
Dark as Night, Tony Birch, 2021
Yellowface, R.F. Kuang, 2023
Broke, Sam Drummond, 2023
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Guest: Tony Birch
26:3319/07/2023
Anna Funder is Her Own Wife
Anna Funder has a habit of writing about humans in extremis: under the Stasi, then the Nazis, and now, she's taken on the patriarchy in her new book Wifedom: Mrs Orwell's Invisible Life. It's an act of resurrection for Eileen O'Shaughnessy, the brilliant woman who married George Orwell, contributed to his work and was erased from his story.
Reading list:
Wifedom: Mrs Orwell's Invisible Life, Anna Funder, 2023
All That I Am, Anna Funder, 2011
Stasiland, Anna Funder, 2003
Burmese Days, George Orwell, 1934
Animal Farm, George Orwell, 1945
1984, George Orwell, 1949
Anam, André Dao, 2023
Restless Dolly Maunder, Kate Grenville, 2023
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Guest: Anna Funder
28:1112/07/2023
We Went to Helen Garner’s House
Helen Garner is writing again. This week, she invites us over for cake and conversation about what she’s writing about, how she solves problems and the inspiration she gets from watching her grandson’s footy training.
Reading list:
Monkey Grip, Helen Garner, 1977
The Children’s Bach, Helen Garner, 1984
The Spare Room, Helen Garner, 2008
Yellow Notebook: Diaries 1978–1987, Helen Garner, 2019
One Day I’ll Remember This: Diaries 1987–1995, Helen Garner, 2020
How to End a Story: Diaries 1995–1998, Helen Garner, 2021
Eleven Letters to You: A Memoir, Helen Elliot, 2023
The Late Americans, Brandon Taylor, 2023
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Guest: Helen Garner
29:3205/07/2023
Introducing Read This
Read This is a show about the books we love and the stories behind them, hosted by Michael Williams. Every Thursday, you’ll hear insightful conversations with the smartest, funniest readers and writers we know and in-depth interviews with the best Australian and international authors talking about their lives and their work. You’ll never be left wondering what to read next. Coming July 6.
02:4321/06/2023