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Read This is a show about the books we love and the stories behind them, hosted by Michael Williams. Every Thursday, you’ll hear insightful conversations with the smartest, funniest readers and writers we know and in-depth interviews with the best Australian and international authors talking about their lives and their work. You’ll never be left wondering what to read next.
Thank God for Rick Morton
The Robodobt scheme is considered by many to be one of the Australian government’s worst scandals. Senior Reporter for The Saturday Paper and Walkley Award-winning journalist Rick Morton followed the case closely and he documents the crisis and its devastating effects in his latest book. This week, we bring you Michael’s conversation from Canberra Writers’ Festival with Rick as they discuss Mean Streak.
Reading list:
Mean Streak, Rick Morton, 2024
One Hundred Years of Dirt, Rick Morton, 2023
My Year Of Living Vulnerably, Rick Morton, 2022
Words to Sing the World Alive, Jasmin McGaughey, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Rick Morton
35:1520/11/2024
Rachel Kushner Is Not Auditioning for Her Own Dream
Rachel Kushner always seemed destined to become a writer. At just five years old, her unconventional parents had her working in a feminist bookstore. Now, several decades and three award-winning novels later, she is back with a new book that follows a spy-for-hire who infiltrates a commune of eco-activists in rural France. This week, Michael joins Rachel on Zoom for a conversation about Creation Lake, which was shortlisted for the 2024 Booker Prize.
Reading list:
Telex from Cuba, Rachel Kushner, 2008
The Flamethrowers, Rachel Kushner, 2013
The Mars Room, Rachel Kushner, 2018
Creation Lake, Rachel Kushner, 2024
Orbital, Samantha Harvey, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Rachel Kushner
35:3013/11/2024
Santilla Chingaipe is Rewriting History
Santilla Chingaipe was born to tell stories. The Zambian-born filmmaker, historian and author, has spent her career exploring settler colonialism, slavery, and contemporary migration in Australia and she has just released her first book of non-fiction. This week, Michael is joined in studio by Santilla to discuss Black Convicts, which was inspired by the critically acclaimed and award-winning documentary, Our African Roots. In it, she offers a fresh understanding of the ways in which empire, slavery, race and memory have shaped this nation.
Reading List:
Black Convicts, Santilla Chingaipe, 2024
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Guest: Santilla Chingaipe
35:3406/11/2024
Tim Winton’s Got the Juice
It is more or less impossible to imagine Australian literature of the past half century without Tim Winton. From his debut, An Open Swimmer to his epic Cloudstreet, the four-time Miles Franklin Award winner is beloved by generations of readers. This week, Michael sits down with Tim to discuss his latest novel, Juice, a gripping tale of determination, survival, and the limits of the human spirit.
Reading list:
That Eye, The Sky, Tim Winton, 1986
Lockie Leonard, Tim Winton, 1990–1997
Cloudstreet, Tim Winton, 1991
Dirt Music, Tim Winton, 2001
Breath, Tim Winton, 2008
Juice, Tim Winton, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Tim Winton
34:1330/10/2024
Nardi Simpson Is Breaking Her Own Rules
Musician and writer Nardi Simpson is a Yuwaalaraay woman from freshwater country in north-west New South Wales. Her debut novel was 2020’s critically acclaimed and multi-award-winning Song of the Crocodile. Now she is back with her second novel, which explores creation, belonging, and the precious fragility of a life. This week, Michael sits down with Nardi for a wide ranging conversation about her new book, The Belburd.
Reading list:
Song of the Crocodile, Nardi Simpson, 2024
The Belburd, Nardi Simpson, 2024
Midnight and Blue, Ian Rankin, 2024
The Ledge, Christian White, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Nardi Simpson
32:3623/10/2024
Robbie Arnott’s Restless Mind
In just three books Robbie Arnott has established himself as a writer to trust. Flames (2018), The Rain Heron (2022) and Limberlost (2022) were all rapturously reviewed and garnered a hefty swag of award nominations and wins. This week, Michael sits down with Robbie to discuss his new novel, Dusk, which explores loss and redemption and survival in Tasmania’s high country.
Reading list:
Flames, Robbie Arnott, 2018
The Rain Heron, Robbie Arnott, 2020
Limberlost, Robbie Arnott, 2022
Dusk, Robbie Arnott, 2024
Paris In Ruins, Sebastian Smee, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Robbie Arnott
30:2416/10/2024
Uses for Ben Shewry
There are few people in this country as obsessed with understanding the cultural and social potential of Australian cuisine as New Zealand-born chef Ben Shewry. And there are even fewer who have managed to combine that passion with the highest echelons of success. This week, Michael sits down with Attica’s head chef to discuss his new memoir, Uses for Obsession, and Ben share’s why he wanted to write a kind of antidote to the macho chef culture we’ve all come to expect.
Reading List:
Uses for Obsession, Ben Shewry, 2024
A Bit on the Side, Virginia Trioli, 2024
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Guest: Ben Shewry
34:1009/10/2024
Melanie Cheng, Superstitious Doctor
Melanie Cheng began her writing career as an author of short stories. Her first collection, Australia Day, was published in 2017 to much acclaim. Her second novel, The Burrow, follows a Melbourne family forced to confront the tragedy of their shared past. This week, Michael sits down for a conversation with Melanie about family, connection, and the power of narrative medicine.
Reading list:
Australia Day, Melanie Cheng, 2017
Room for a Stranger, Melanie Cheng, 2019
The Burrow, Melanie Cheng, 2024
Intermezzo, Sally Rooney, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Melanie Cheng
32:5902/10/2024
Rumaan Alam on Class, Desire, and Dread
Rumaan Alam is the author of four novels. He broke out in 2020 with his New York Times best-selling novel Leave the World Behind. This week Michael sits down with Rumaan for a conversation about his latest novel, Entitlement, and they discuss class, desire, and the influence of Sylvia Plath.
Reading list:
Rich and Pretty, Rumaan Alam, 2016
That Kind of Mother, Rumaan Alam, 2018
Leave the World Behind, Rumaan Alam, 2020
Entitlement, Rumaan Alam, 2024
Intermezzo, Sally Rooney, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Rumaan Alam
32:3725/09/2024
Richard Osman Investigates
Richard Osman wears many hats, from television producer to comedian to podcaster. Now, however, he’s best known as a bestselling author for his series The Thursday Murder Club. Richard’s new series is called We Solve Murders and this week, he sits down with Michael to discuss it and he reveals the piece of advice he gave to Pierce Brosnan.
Reading list:
The Thursday Murder Club, Richard Osman, 2020
The Man Who Died Twice, Richard Osman, 2021
The Bullet That Missed, Richard Osman, 2022
The Last Devil To Die, Richard Osman, 2023
We Solve Murders, Richard Osman, 2024
Max Perkins: Editor of Genius, Berg, A. Scott,1978
Stone Yard Devotional, Charlotte Wood, 2023
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Guest: Richard Osman
33:0518/09/2024
Malcolm Knox Finds Comedy in Toxic Friendships
Malcolm Knox began his career as a journalist for the Sydney Morning Herald, back in the 90s. His breakout was in 2004 when, as literary editor, he broke the story of the fake Jordanian memoirist, Norma Khouri for which he won a Walkley Award. Since then he has written more than a dozen books of nonfiction and has been publishing fiction since 2000. The First Friend is his seventh novel.
Reading list:
The Wonder Lover, Malcolm Knox, 2015
Bluebird, Malcolm Knox, 2020
The First Friend, Malcolm Knox, 2024
The Temperature, Katerina Gibson, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Malcolm Knox
28:0211/09/2024
Caoilinn Hughes Is Barely Patient Enough to Write
Caoilinn Hughes is an Irish poet and writer whose debut novel Orchid And The Wasp was published in 2018 to rave reviews. Her third and latest novel, The Alternatives, might be her best yet, and this week she sits down with Michael to discuss it.
Reading list:
Gathering Evidence, Caoilinn Hughes, 2014
Orchid And The Wasp, Caoilinn Hughes, 2018
The Wild Laughter, Caoilinn Hughes, 2020
The Alternatives, Caoilinn Hughes, 2024
Enter Ghost, Isabella Hammad, 2023
Long Island Compromise, Taffy Brodesser-Akner, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Caoilinn Hughes
33:2104/09/2024
Literary Giant Rodney Hall Wishes He Was Taller
Rodney Hall might be the greatest Australian writer you’ve never heard of. He is a two-time Miles Franklin Award winner and has published dozens of books of fiction, poetry and memoir across his long career. Now 88, Rodney has just released his 14th novel titled Vortex and it might be his best. This week, Michael sits down with Rodney to discuss his new book and why writing is always a collaborative process between author and reader.
Reading list:
The Ship on the Coin: A Fable of the Bourgeoisie, Rodney Hall, 1972
Just Relations, Rodney Hall, 1982
Kisses of the Enemy, Rodney Hall, 1987
Captivity Captive, Rodney Hall, 1988
The Second Bridegroom, Rodney Hall, 1991
The Grisly Wife, Rodney Hall, 1993
The Island in the Mind, Rodney Hall, 1996
The Day We Had Hitler Home, Rodney Hall, 2000
The Last Love Story, Rodney Hall, 2004
Love Without Hope, Rodney Hall, 2007
Popeye Never Told You, Rodney Hall, 2010
A Stolen Season, Rodney Hall, 2018
Vortex, Rodney Hall, 2024
I Claudius, Robert Graves, 1934
Claudius the God, Robert Graves, 1935
The White Goddess, Robert Graves, 1948
An Experiment in Criticism, C.S. Lewis, 1961
The New Science, Giambattista Vico, 1725
Death at the Sign of the Rook, Kate Atkinson, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Rodney Hall
31:2028/08/2024
It’s Not Roxane Gay’s Job to Make People Happy
Roxane Gay is a prominent American author, professor, and cultural critic known for her unflinching honesty, quick wit, and razor-sharp intellect. She has gained acclaim for her essays, fiction, and memoirs that explore identity, gender, race, and body image. This week, Roxane joins Michael for a conversation about what it means to be a public intellectual and how this has shifted throughout her career.
Reading list:
Ayiti, Roxane Gay, 2011
An Untamed State, Roxane Gay, 2014
Bad Feminist, Roxane Gay, 2014
Difficult Women, Roxane Gay, 2017
Hunger: A Memoir of (My) Body, Roxane Gay, 2017
The Banks, Roxane Gay, 2019
Opinions: A Decade of Arguments, Criticism, and Minding Other People's Business, Roxane Gay, 2023
Jazz, Toni Morrison, 1992
The Source of Self-Regard: Essays, Speeches, Meditations, Toni Morrison, 2019
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
Roxane Gay appears at Carriageworks in Sydney, as part of the Festival of Dangerous Ideas (24-25 August) and at Melbourne Town Hall (27 August), presented by the Wheeler Centre and Now or Never. For more information head to their websites.
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Guest: Roxane Gay
31:5721/08/2024
The Multiple Belongings of Elif Shafak
Elif Shafak is an award-winning British Turkish novelist whose work has been translated into fifty-five languages. She is a self-described “citizen of the world” and has become a notable public intellectual and human rights activist. Elif's latest novel, There are Rivers in the Sky, stretches across millenia, following a single drop of water. This week, Michael chats with Elif about her new book and why she is not just a storyteller but a silence teller, too.
Reading list:
The Bastard of Istanbul, Elif Shafak, 2006
The Forty Rules of Love, Elif Shafak, 2009
Honour, Elif Shafak, 2011
10 Minutes 38 Seconds In this Strange World, Elif Shafak, 2019
The Island of Missing Trees, Elif Shafak, 2021
There are Rivers in the Sky, Elif Shafak, 2024
Orlando: A Biography, Virginia Woolf, 1928
When Cops Are Criminals, Veronica Gorrie, 2024
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Guest: Elif Shafak
32:1814/08/2024
Eric Beecher Is a Media Mongrel
Eric Beecher is a news man. As a journalist, he’s worked for some of the most well-respected newspapers in the world, including the Sydney Morning Herald and the Wall Street Journal. As his career progressed, Eric climbed the media ladder: he’s currently the head of Private Media, which runs the website, Crikey. This week, Michael sits down with Eric to discuss his new book, The Men Who Killed the News.
Reading list:
The Men Who Killed the News, Eric Beecher, 2024
Woo Woo, Ella Baxter, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Eric Beecher
31:1707/08/2024
Alexis Wright Is the 2024 Miles Franklin Winner
Alexis Wright’s 2023 novel Praiseworthy has just been awarded the Miles Franklin Award. It also won the Stella Prize and has been described as “an astonishing feat of storytelling and sovereign imagination.” In this special episode, Alexis joins Michael for a conversation about Praiseworthy and reveals why she decided very early on in her literary career that she wasn't going to be trapped in anyone’s box.
Reading list:
Carpentaria, Alexis Wright, 2006
The Swan Book, Alexis Wright, 2013
Tracker, Alexis Wright 2017
Praiseworthy, Alexis Wright, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Alexis Wright
31:2202/08/2024
Evie Wyld Is Having More Fun Than You Think
Evie Wyld writes dark and often trauma-informed books, but she also has a remarkable capacity to capture the tenderness of memory. Her novels have been a critical and commercial success, with her second, All The Birds Singing, winning the Miles Franklin and her third, The Bass Rock, taking home the 2021 Stella Prize. This week, Michael sits down with Evie for a conversation about her latest book The Echoes, which explores how we tell stories around, and into the absences that define us.
Reading list:
After the Fire, A Still Small Voice, Evie Wyld, 2009
All The Birds, Singing, Evie Wyld, 2013
The Bass Rock, Evie Wyld, 2020
The Echoes, Evie Wyld, 2024
Only Sound Remains, Hossein Asgari, 2023
Wall, Jen Craig, 2023
Anam, Andre Dao, 2023
The Bell of the World, Gregory Day, 2023
Hospital, Sanya Rushdi, 2023
Praiseworthy, Alexis Wright, 2023
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Guest: Evie Wyld
31:5631/07/2024
Michael Robotham and His Cabana of Cruelty
Michael Robotham began his career as a ghost writer, working on more than a dozen bestselling books for people like Tony Bullimore and Geri Halliwell, before he published a novel under his own name. Twenty years later, he has just released his 18th book, a new crime novel titled Storm Child. This week, the two Michaels sit down together for a conversation about crime writing, truth wizards and what’s next.
Reading list:
The Suspect, Michael Robotham, 2004
Life or Death, Michael Robotham, 2014
Good Girl, Bad Girl, Michael Robotham, 2019
When She Was Good, Michael Robotham, 2020
Storm Child, Michael Robotham, 2024
Stalking the Feature Story, William Ruehlmann, 1977
For Life, Ailsa Piper, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Michael Robotham
28:2424/07/2024
Dylin Hardcastle Has Found Their Own Voice
Dylin Hardcastle has been publishing their writing since they were 21, having now completed a memoir, a book of YA fiction and two novels. In their latest work, Dylin takes the reader back to 1972, and across three decades, explores the parallel lives of two women, shaped by their contrasting experiences of desire. This week, Michael sits down with Dylin Hardcastle for a wide-ranging conversation about this new novel, A Language of Limbs.
Reading list:
A Language of Limbs, Dylin Hardcastle, 2024
Below Deck, Sophie Hardcastle, 2020
Breathing Underwater, Sophie Hardcastle, 2016
Running Like China, Sophie Hardcastle, 2015
In the Dream House, Carmen Maria Machado, 2019
Voice of the Fish: A Lyric Essay, Lars Horn, 2022
The List, Yomi Adegoke, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Dylin Hardcastle
31:0717/07/2024
We Visited Gerald Murnane at the Goroke Golf Course
Gerald Murnane doesn’t have readers, he has acolytes. The New Yorker described him as “the reclusive giant of Australian letters”. He’s written 10 novels, several collections of short stories and essays, and a memoir about horse racing. Together these books represent one of the most formidable and singular bodies of work in literature. This week, Michael drives out to the Goroke golf course to chat with Gerald on his home turf.
Reading list:
Tamarisk Row, Gerald Murnane, 1974
A Lifetime on Clouds, Gerald Murnane, 1976
The Plains, Gerald Murnane, 1982
Inland, Gerald Murnane, 1988
Emerald Blue, Gerald Murnane, 1995
Barley Patch, Gerald Murnane, 2009
A History of Books, Gerald Murnane, 2012
A Million Windows, Gerald Murnane, 2014
Something for the Pain: A Memoir of the Turf, Gerald Murnane, 2015
Border Districts, Gerald Murnane, 2017
A Season on Earth, Gerald Murnane, 2019
Last Letter to a Reader, Gerald Murnane, 2021
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
Articles on Gerald Murnane
Is the Next Nobel Laureate in Literature Tending Bar in a Dusty Australian Town?
An Idiot in the Greek Sense
The Reclusive Giant of Australian Letters
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Guest: Gerald Murnane
38:0010/07/2024
Michael Ondaatje Is Learning Everything Again
Sri Lankan-born Canadian essayist, poet, and Booker Prize-winning novelist Michael Ondaatje has just released a stunning collection of poems. Ondaatje is now 80 years old and it’s almost half a century since he published his first novel; even longer since he first published poetry. This week, Michael joins Read This for a conversation about A Year of Last Things and why writing remains such a joyful act of discovery.
Reading list:
Coming Through Slaughter, Michael Ondaatje, 1976
In the Skin of a Lion, Michael Ondaatje, 1986
The Cinnamon Peeler: Selected Poems, Michael Ondaatje, 1989
The English Patient, Michael Ondaatje, 1992
Handwriting, Michael Ondaatje, 1998
Anil's Ghost, Michael Ondaatje, 2000
Divisadero, Michael Ondaatje, 2007
The Cat's Table, Michael Ondaatje, 2011
Warlight, Michael Ondaatje, 2018
A Year of Last Things, Michael Ondaatje, 2024
The Collected Poems of W. S. Merwin, 2013
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Guest: Michael Ondaatje
30:5403/07/2024
Paul Murray and the Beautiful Opera of Life
Paul Murray’s last two novels, Skippy Dies and The Mark and the Void, were both modern masterpieces of institutional failure. In his 2023 Booker Prize shortlisted novel, The Bee Sting, the failing institution Paul turns his comedic eye to is the family. This week, Michael and Paul sit down for a discussion about fraudulence, empathy, and the beautiful opera of life.
Reading list:
An Evening of Long Goodbyes, Paul Murray, 2003
Skippy Dies, Paul Murray, 2010
The Mark and the Void, Paul Murray, 2015
The Bee Sting, Paul Murray, 2023
Doppelganger: A Trip Into the Mirror World, Naomi Klein, 2023
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Paul Murray
33:2826/06/2024
Don’t Call Paul Lynch’s Book a Political Novel
For many years, Irish writer Paul Lynch was a household name…in France. And while his work was popular in translation, and received numerous French literary awards, it was still considered niche. This all changed in 2023, following the release of Prophet Song, which was critically lauded and eventually won the holy grail of English language literary awards: the Booker Prize. This week we return to the Melbourne Writers’ Festival to hear a conversation between Michael and Paul about how Paul became a writer, and why he doesn’t think Prophet Song is a political novel.
Reading list:
Red Sky in Morning, Paul Lynch, 2013
The Black Snow, Paul Lynch, 2014
Grace, Paul Lynch, 2017
Beyond the Sea, Paul Lynch, 2020
Prophet Song, Paul Lynch, 2023
The Prisoner of Zenda, Anthony Hope, 1894
King Solomon's Mines, H. Rider Haggard, 1885
The Mayor of Casterbridge, Thomas Hardy, 1886
The Heart in Winter, Kevin Barry, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Paul Lynch.
37:1819/06/2024
Leslie Jamison’s Search History
Leslie Jamison is celebrated for her ability to link the personal to the cultural to the critical in ways that resonate and move and connect with readers. She first did it with The Empathy Exams – an essay, then a best-selling, award-winning collection. Now she is back with a new book, Splinters: Another Kind of Love Story, a memoir about rebuilding a life after the end of a marriage. This week, Michael sits down with Leslie to discuss this latest work and what it means to be many things – a teacher, an artist, a lover and a mother.
Reading list:
The Gin Closet, Leslie Jamison, 2010
The Empathy Exams, Leslie Jamison, 2014
The Recovering, Leslie Jamison, 2018
Splinters: Another Kind of Love Story, Leslie Jamison, 2024
Sleepless Nights, Elizabeth Hardwick, 1979
Fragile Creatures, Khin Myint, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Leslie Jamison
32:2312/06/2024
What Is Wrong with Viet Thanh Nguyen?
In 2015, Viet Thanh Nguyen was awarded a Pulitzer Prize for his debut novel, The Sympathizer. Now, nearly a decade later, the book has been adapted into an HBO miniseries of the same name. This week, Michael sits down with Viet for a conversation about his latest book, A Man with Two Faces, which expands beyond the familiar beats of memoir, and features the author’s trademark interest in the broader political and colonial implications of the personal.
Reading list:
The Sympathizer, Viet Thanh Nguyen, 2014
The Committed, Viet Thanh Nguyen, 2021
A Man of Two Faces, Viet Thanh Nguyen, 2023
Dune, Frank Herbert, 1965
Portnoy's Complaint, Philip Roth,1968
Quarterly Essay: Highway to Hell, Joëlle Gergis, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Viet Thanh Nguyen
31:4105/06/2024
All Bruce Pascoe Needs Is a Biro
It was 2014 when Bruce Pascoe went from being a prolific, yet relatively unknown writer, to public enemy #1 in Australia’s culture wars. That was the year that Bruce published his now infamous book, Dark Emu, and its re-examination of accepted historical accounts of pre-invasion Australia. This week, he joins Michael for a discussion about his new novel Imperial Harvest and shares why he still believes we need the messiness of democracy.
Reading list:
Dark Emu, Bruce Pascoe, 2014
Imperial Harvest, Bruce Pascoe, 2024
Time’s Monster, Priya Satia, 2020
The Ministry of Time, Kellyanne Bradley, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Bruce Pascoe
29:0029/05/2024
Miranda July Wrote the Book She Couldn’t Find
Writer, artist, and filmmaker Miranda July has a devoted – even rabid – following, through her writing, her work on the screen, and her collaborative art projects. Her debut 2007 collection of short stories No One Belongs Here More Than You was a publishing sensation, and her debut film, Me and You and Everyone We Know, won the Palme D’Or at Cannes Film Festival. This week, she and Michael discuss her new novel, All Fours, which explores desire, intimacy, dance, and an often overlooked part of the ageing process.
Reading list:
Books
No One Belongs Here More Than You, Miranda July, 2007
The First Bad Man, Miranda July, 2019
All Fours, Miranda July, 2024
Short Stories
‘Roy Spivey’, Miranda July, 2009 (The New Yorker)
‘The Metal Bowl’, Miranda July, 2017 (The New Yorker)
‘Women Have Been Misled About Menopause’, Susan Dominus, 2023 (The New York Times)
What Fresh Hell Is This?, Heather Corinna, 2021
Long Island, Colm Tóibín, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Miranda July
32:5922/05/2024
Andrew O’Hagan’s Big Dickensian Energy
Across half a dozen novels, Andrew O’Hagan has made a name for himself as an author of delicacy and grace, painting the community he comes from, in Scotland’s west, with tenderness and wry, affectionate humour. His latest, Caledonian Road, follows art historian Campbell Flynn. A man who is at a turning point and is about to come up against his own downfall. This week, Michael sits down with Andrew for a conversation about the Dickensian world he has created in his new novel and why he considers it his most optimistic book yet.
Reading list:
Our Fathers, Andrew O’Hagan, 1999
Be Near Me, Andrew O’Hagan, 2006
Mayflies, Andrew O’Hagan, 2020
Caledonian Road, Andrew O’Hagan, 2024
Lives of Girls and Women, Alice Munro, 1971
Hateship, Friendship, Courtship, Loveship, Marriage, Alice Munro, 2001
Dear Life, Alice Munro, 2012
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Andrew O’Hagan
32:4715/05/2024
It’s Winnie Dunn’s Turn in the Spotlight
Winnie Dunn is used to being behind the scenes. As the general manager of Sweatshop Literacy Movement in Western Sydney, she has been instrumental in helping other writers find their voice. But now, the spotlight is on her. This week, Michael sits down with Winnie for a conversation about her debut novel, Dirt Poor Islanders. She reflects on the demonising narratives she had to fight and the piece of writing advice that she’d given to others that resonated for her.
Reading list:
Dirt Poor Islanders, Winnie Dunn, 2024
I Am Lupe, Sela Ahosivi-Atiola, Yani Agustina, 2023
Only the Astronauts, Ceridwen Dovey, 2024
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Winnie Dunn
28:0108/05/2024
Resisting Catharsis with Sloane Crosley
Sloane Crosley is known for her funny and acerbic personal essays, including her New York Times’ best-selling collection I Was Told There’d Be Cake. But in her new memoir she digs much deeper to examine the loss of her best friend. This week, Michael sits down with Sloane to discuss Grief Is For People, and Sloane reveals the challenges of writing an intimate portrait of a singular friendship.
Reading list:
I Was Told There’d Be Cake, Sloane Crosley, 2008
How Did You Get This Number, Sloane Crosley, 2010
Look Alive Out There, Sloane Crosley, 2018
Cult Classic, Sloane Crosley, 2022
Grief Is For People, Sloane Crosley, 2023
Truth and Beauty, Ann Patchett, 2004
The Writing Life, Annie Dillard, 1989
Stoner, John Williams, 1965
You can find these books and all the others we mentioned at your favourite independent book store.
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Guest: Sloane Crosley
32:4101/05/2024
See You Next Week!
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01:2524/04/2024
Morris Gleitzman’s World of Possibilities
Morris Gleitzman is an Australian institution. A beloved author of novels for young people, Morris is known for his ability to be funny and warm without shying away from the realities of life. He has been writing for almost half a century now and has delighted generations of readers with his more than 40 books of fiction. This week, Michael and Morris sit down to reflect on Morris’s multi-generational impact and to discuss his latest novel, Tweet.
Reading list:
Two Weeks with the Queen, Morris Gleitzman, 1989
Misery Guts, Morris Gleitzman, 1991
Worry Warts, Morris Gleitzman, 1992
Blabber Mouth, Morris Gleitzman, 1993
Sticky Beak, Morris Gleitzman, 1994
Now, Morris Gleitzman, 2010
Tweet, Morris Gleitzman, 2024
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Guest: Morris Gleitzman
31:1717/04/2024
Vulgarity, Death, and Patrick deWitt
Patrick deWitt has made a career out of creating eccentric, unforgettable characters. From his gun-slinging duo in the darkly comic The Sisters Brothers, which was shortlisted for the Booker Prize to the severely unsympathetic down-at-heel aristocrats in The French Exit. But in his fifth novel, The Librarianist, Patrick employs his signature verve and wit to reveal the extraordinary in the otherwise ordinary life of retired librarian Bob Comet. This week, Patrick joins Michael in the studio for a conversation about the joys of being an introvert, making friends at 40, and writing his latest novel.
Reading list:
The Sisters Brothers, Patrick deWitt, 2011
Undermajordomo Minor, Patrick deWitt, 2015
French Exit, Patrick deWitt, 2018
The Librarianist, Patrick deWitt, 2023
Deep Blue: The World in the Ocean, James Bradley, 2024
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Guest: Patrick deWitt
28:1210/04/2024
Louise Milligan Wears Her Heart on Her Sleeve
Star investigative journalist Louise Milligan has spent her career working on some of the most high-profile criminal cases in Australia. This incredible breadth of experience informs her first novel Pheasant’s Nest, which follows the abduction of a young journalist and provides a unique insight into the media, policing and politics that surround a crime like this. This week, Michael sits down with Louise to discuss the leap from reporting to fiction and why writing this book was a kind of therapy.
Reading list:
Cardinal, Louise Milligan, 2017
Witness, Louise Milligan, 2020
Pheasant’s Nest, Louise Milligan, 2024
A Year of Last Things, Michael Ondaatje, 2024
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Guest: Louise Milligan
25:4003/04/2024
Friends, Mary Beard Fans, Countrymen, Lend Me Your Ears
Even if you’re not an obsessive Ancient Rome aficionado, you may have heard of Mary Beard. With more than 20 books to her name, including the wildly successful SPQR, Mary might be most famous for her work as a BBC host for shows such as Pompeii: Life and Death in a Roman Town and Julius Caesar Revealed. Her latest book is Emperor of Rome and this week on the show she sits down with Michael to discuss her life sentence — the half dozen words that set her on the path to becoming Britain’s best-known classicist — and why the Roman Empire is so misunderstood.
Reading list:
SPQR, Mary Beard, 2015
Twelve Caesars, Mary Beard, 2021
Emperor of Rome, Mary Beard, 2023
Meditations, Marcus Aurealius, 167 A.C.E..
Tidelines, Sarah Sasson, 2024
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Guest: Mary Beard
32:3127/03/2024
Jonathan Lethem Is Ripping It up and Starting Again
Jonathan Lethem made his name with his 1999 novel Motherless Brooklyn, but it was his next book, a semi-autobiographical re-telling of his childhood in Brooklyn, The Fortress of Solitude, that solidified his reputation as one of America's most celebrated authors. In Brooklyn Crime Novel, Jonathan returns to the Brooklyn of his childhood, but this time with a very different perspective. This week, Michael and Jonathan discuss making and unmaking the past in his latest book.
Reading list:
Motherless Brooklyn, Jonathan Lethem, 1999
The Fortress of Solitude, Jonathan Lethem, 2003
Brooklyn Crime Novel, Jonathan Lethem, 2023
Edenglassie, Melissa Lucashenko, 2023
The Restless Dolly Maunder, Kate Grenville, 2023
Wifedom, Anna Funder, 2023
The Wren, The Wren, Anne Enright, 2023
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Guest: Jonathan Lethem
33:4020/03/2024
Anne Enright Is Not Really Writing About Families, Actually
Anne Enright has been publishing books for more than two decades, winning numerous awards, including the Booker Prize for her 2007 novel, The Gathering. This week, Michael sits down with Anne for a wide-ranging conversation about the changing cultural context she is writing into, how a multiplicity of perspectives shape her work, and her latest book The Wren, The Wren.
Reading list:
The Gathering, Anne Enright, 2007
The Forgotten Waltz, Anne Enright, 2011
The Green Road, Anne Enright, 2015
Actress, Anne Enright, 2020
The Wren, the Wren, Anne Enright, 2023
Orbital, Samantha Harvey, 2023
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Guest: Anne Enright
29:3913/03/2024
Nam Le Is Back
When Nam Le’s debut book of short stories, The Boat, came out in 2008, it was met with unanimous praise and scooped up awards from around the world. Now, 16 years later, Nam has produced his follow up called 36 Ways to Write A Vietnamese Poem. This week, Michael sits down with Nam to discuss his latest work and the importance of violence in his conception of poetry and language.
Reading list:
The Boat, Nam Le, 2008
On David Malouf, Nam Le, 2019
36 Ways of Writing a Vietnamese Poem, Nam Le, 2014
What Happened to Nina?, Dervla McTiernan, 2024
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Guest: Nam Le
30:1306/03/2024
Gail Jones Was Saved by Reading
Joseph Conrad only ever captained one ship in his lifetime – the Otago. In a strange turn of events, the wreckage of Joseph Conrad’s ship now lies on the banks of the Derwent River in Hobart. And it's there that novelist Gail Jones took the inspiration for her latest novel, One Another. This week, Michael sits down with Gail for a wide-ranging discussion about desire, hauntings, and the life and work of Joseph Conrad.
Reading list:
Black Mirror, Gail Jones, 2002
Sixty Lights, Gail Jones, 2004
Dreams of Speaking, Gail Jones, 2006
Sorry, Gail Jones, 2007
Five Bells, Gail Jones, 2011
A Guide to Berlin, Gail Jones, 2015
The Death of Noah Glass, Gail Jones, 2018
Our Shadows, Gail Jones, 2020
Salonika Burning, Gail Jones, 2022
Heart of Darkness, Joseph Conrad, 1899
The Secret Agent, Joseph Conrad, 1907
Always Will Be, Mykaela Saunders, 2024
The Best Minds, Jonathan Rosen, 2023
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Guest: Gail Jones
30:2728/02/2024
Why Kate Jennings Is There in Everything Erik Jensen Writes
Erik Jensen was just 20 years old when he met Australian author Kate Jennings for the first time, forging a close relationship that continued until Kate’s death in 2021. This week, Michael chats with The Saturday Paper’s editor in chief about Kate’s life and her underappreciated work and Erik shares why her novel, Snake, is the best Australian book he’s ever read.
Reading list:
Snake, Kate Jennings, 1996
Moral Hazard, Kate Jennings, 2002
Cats, Dogs and Pitchforks, Kate Jennings, 1993
On Kate Jennings, Erik Jensen, 2017
I said the sea was folded: Love poems, Erik Jensen, 2021
Angry at Breakfast, Erik Jensen, 2024
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Guest: Erik Jensen
28:5121/02/2024
No Dogs Die in Briohny Doyle's New Novel
This week, Michael chats with author Briohny Doyle, whose most recent novel Why We Are Here explores the complexities of grief, both individual and collective. They discuss the role of writing during the pandemic and how relationships with non-human others enable us to access repressed parts of ourselves.
Reading list:
The Island Will Sink, Briohny Doyle, 2013
Adult Fantasy, Briohny Doyle, 2017
Echolalia, Briohny Doyle, 2021
Why We Are Here, Briohny Doyle, 2023
The Great Undoing, Sharlene Allsopp, 2024
Tremor, Teju Cole, 2023
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Guest: Briohny Doyle
32:5214/02/2024
How Geraldine Brooks Became a Novelist
For our first episode of 2024, Michael speaks with Pulitzer Prize-winning author Geraldine Brooks. She shares her life sentence and reflects on how her upbringing provided the perfect building blocks for a career as a writer. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.
Reading list:
Nine Parts of Desire, Geraldine Brooks, 1994
Foreign Correspondence, Geraldine Brooks, 1997
March, Geraldine Brooks, 2005
Horse, Geraldine Brook, 2022
Dreams of My Russian Summers, Andreï Makine, 1995
We All Lived In Bondi Then, Georgia Blain, 2024
A Day in the Life of Abed Salama, Nathan Thrall, 2023
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Guest: Geraldine Brooks
29:1407/02/2024
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02:1031/01/2024
We Went to Fitzroy Pool
For our last show of the year, Michael heads to Fitzroy Pool to find out what people are reading as the weather warms up. Plus, some of our previous guests offer book recommendations for the summer holidays.
Reading list:
The Vanishing Half, Brit Bennett, 2020
Down and Out In Paris and London, George Orwell, 1933
My Body, Emily Ratajkowski, 2021
Ghosts, Dolly Alderton, 2020
The Creative Act: A Way of Being, Rick Rubin, 2023
The Road, Cormac McCarthy, 2006
Working Class Boy, Jimmy Barnes, 2018
Never Never, Colleen Hoover and Tarryn Fisher, 2023
The Spy’s Wife, Fiona McIntosh, 2021
Lioness, Emily Perkins, 2023
And Then She Fell, Alicia Elliott, 2023
The Palestine Laboratory, Anthony Loewenstein, 2023
England’s Green, Zaffar Kunial, 2022
The Sullivanians, Alexander Stille, 2023
Everyone and Everything, Nadine J. Cohen, 2023
Why We Are Here, Briohny Doyle, 2023
The Thursday Murder Club, Richard Osman, 2020
Middlemarch, George Eliot, 1871
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21:2013/12/2023
Max Porter’s Freight Is Proportioned to His Groove
Max Porter, best known for his debut novel Grief is the Thing with Feathers, has long been inspired by literature – reading it, listening to it, and, most importantly, sharing it with others. This week, Max shares the piece of writing that changed his life and reveals why every single time he thinks about it, its power renews itself like a rechargeable battery.
Reading list:
Grief is the Thing with Feathers, Max Porter, 2015
Lanny, Max Porter, 2019
The Death of Francis Bacon, Max Porter, 2021
Shy, Max Porter, 2023
Memorial, Alice Oswald, 2011
Hope in the Dark, Rebecca Solnit, 2004
Not Too Late: Changing the Climate Story from Despair to Possibility, ed. Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua, 2023
The Complete Poems, Emily Dickinson, 2017
Day, Michael Cunningham, 2023
Roman Stories, Jhumpa Lahiri, 2023
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Guest: Max Porter
30:5206/12/2023
Why Michelle de Kretser Wants You to Read Shirley Hazzard
Michelle de Kretser began reading Shirley Hazzard well before she herself would become a writer, but she felt an early kinship, and two decades later it exploded into a full obsession. This week, Michael speaks with Michelle and Hazzard's biographer Brigitta Olubas about one of Australia's most underrated and underread authors.
Reading list:
The Evening of the Holiday, Shirley Hazzard, 1966
The Bay of Noon, Shirley Hazzard, 1970
The Transit of Venus, Shirley Hazzard, 1980
Greene on Capri, Shirley Hazzard, 2000
The Great Fire, Shirley Hazzard, 2003
On Shirley Hazzard: Writers on Writers, Michelle de Kretser, 2019
Shirley Hazzard: A Writing Life, Brigitta Olubas, 2023
Prophet Song, Paul Lynch, 2023
So Close to Home, Mick Cummins, 2023
In Praise of Veg, Alice Zaslavsky, 2020
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Guest: Michelle de Kretser & Brigitta Olubas
31:0329/11/2023
Gabrielle Zevin Wants to Talk About Failure
Back in 2005, following the publication of her debut novel, Gabrielle Zevin experienced a kind of literary trauma, one that completely fractured her sense of intimacy with the art form that she loved. Since then, she has learned to embrace failure and her latest novel has featured on over thirty “Best Books of the Year” Lists. This week, Michael sits down with Gabrielle for a wide-ranging discussion about collaboration, creativity, ambition and failure in her new book, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow.
Reading list:
Margarettown, Gabrielle Zevin, 2005
The Hole We're In, Gabrielle Zevin, 2010
The Storied Life of A.J. Fikry, Gabrielle Zevin, 2014
Young Jane Young, Gabrielle Zevin, 2017
Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, Gabrielle Zevin, 2022
The Remains of the Day, Kazuo Ishiguro, 1989
The Animators, Kayla Rae Whitaker, 2016
Returning, Kirli Saunders, 2023
Wellness, Nathan Hill, 2023
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Guest: Gabrielle Zevin
27:1422/11/2023
The Cause and Effect of Richard Flanagan
Described by the Washington Post as "one of our greatest living novelists", Richard Flanagan has been writing for more than three decades. His 2013 novel The Narrow Road to the Deep North won the Booker Prize and his essays have been published across Australia and internationally. This week Michael heads to Tasmania to speak with Richard at his home in Hobart about his latest and most personal novel, Question 7.
Reading list:
Gould’s Book of Fish, Richard Flanagan, 2001
The Narrow Road to the North, Richard Flanagan, 2013
The Living Sea of Waking Dreams, Richard Flanagan, 2020
Question 7, Richard Flanagan, 2023
The War of the Worlds, H.G. Wells, 1898
The World Set Free, H.G. Wells, 1914
Speak, Memory, Vladimir Nabokov, 1951
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Guest: Richard Flanagan
31:2415/11/2023
Rebecca Makkai Is on the Case
Rebecca Makkai is a master storyteller – her 2018 book, The Great Believers, was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize and a National Book Award. In I Have Some Questions for You, Rebecca switches genres with a literary crime story that takes in the #MeToo movement, the American justice system, race, sex, class and murder, all against the backdrop of a prestigious boarding school. This week, Michael sits down with Rebecca to discuss her latest novel, the perils of true crime, and why being surprised when reading a book is so much more satisfying than a jump scare in a movie.
Reading list:
The Borrower, Rebecca Makkai, 2011
The Hundred-Year House, Rebecca Makkai, 2014
The Great Believers, Rebecca Makkai, 2018
I Have Some Questions for You, Rebecca Makkai, 2023
The Stone of Laughter, Hoda Barakat, 1990
So Late in the Day, Claire Keegan, 2023
The In-Between, Christos Tsiolkas, 2023
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Guest: Rebecca Makkai
28:0408/11/2023