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Poured Over is a show for readers who pore over details, obsess over sentences and ideas and stories and characters; readers who ask a lot of questions, just like Poured Over’s host, Miwa Messer, a career bookseller who’s always reading. Follow us here for surprising riffs, candid conversations, a few laughs, and lots of great book recommendations from big name authors and authors on their way to being big names. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional bonus episodes on Saturdays).
Percival Everett on JAMES
James by Percival Everett flips the script on an American classic as Huck Finn steps to the side and Jim takes center stage in a powerful and often very funny, story of family, home and freedom. Everett joined us live at The Grove to talk about language and storytelling, his sense of humor (and its origins), philosophy, identity and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): James by Percival Everett The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain Erasure by Percival Everett Dr. No by Percival Everett I Am Not Sidney Poitier by Percival Everett Glyph by Percival Everett Telephone by Percival Everett Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
54:1721/03/2024
Téa Obreht on THE MORNINGSIDE
The Morningside by Téa Obreht is a story of mothers and daughters and finding home, set in an unforgettable building and a near-future world. Obreht joins us to talk about writing a dystopian novel, creating deep and memorable characters, finding hope in society and more with Miwa Messer, the host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The Morningside by Tèa Obreht Inland by Téa Obreht The Tiger’s Wife by Téa Obreht Sea of Tranquility by Emily St. John Mandel Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel The Bandit Queens by Parini Shroff Biography of X by Catherine Lacey Iron Curtain: A Love Story by Vesna Goldsworthy Beautyland by Marie-Helene Bertino
46:0719/03/2024
Lottie Hazell on PIGLET
Piglet by Lottie Hazell is a taut and propulsive novel about women’s ambitions and the quest for fulfillment at any cost. Hazell joins us to talk about the process for writing her lush food scenes, the likeability of female characters, her writing influences and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. We end this episode with TBR Topoff book recommendations from Marc and Jamie. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Piglet by Lottie Hazell Supper Club by Lara Williams The Harpy by Megan Hunter Tom Lake by Ann Patchett Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver Featured Books (TBR Topoff): The Vegetarian by Han Kang Nobody, Somebody, Anybody by Kelly McClorey
41:2116/03/2024
Sloane Crosley on GRIEF IS FOR PEOPLE
Sloane Crosley’s Grief Is for People grapples with challenging subjects of friendship and profound loss with humor and empathy. Crosley joined us to talk about the series of events that led her to this book, writing about death and grief in unconventional ways, her memoir process and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Grief Is for People by Sloane Crosley Cult Classic by Sloane Crosley All My Puny Sorrows by Miriam Toews Go Tell It on the Mountain by James Baldwin American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis
43:0014/03/2024
Tommy Orange and Roxane Gay on WANDERING STARS
Wandering Stars by Tommy Orange is a multigenerational saga of Native American heritage and culture, and a stunning follow up to his previous work, There There. Along with writer Roxane Gay, Orange joins us to talk about identity and writing, representation in literature, unexpected connections to other authors and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Wandering Stars by Tommy Orange There There by Tommy Orange An Untamed State by Roxane Gay Opinions by Roxane Gay Epitaph of a Winner by Joaquim Maria Machado de Assis The Hour of the Star by Clarice Lispector Beloved by Toni Morrison Blindness by José Saramago NW by Zadie Smith The Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton Martyr! by Kaveh Akbar
49:1412/03/2024
Cristina Henríquez on THE GREAT DIVIDE
“I'm not here to tell the story. I'm here to find the story…” Cristina Henríquez’s new novel, The Great Divide is a deeply meaningful, character-driven narrative that brings momentous history to new life. Henríquez joins us to talk about writing historical fiction, her family’s connection to the story, her influences and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. We end this episode with TBR Topoff recommendations from Mary and Jamie. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The Great Divide by Cristina Henríquez The Book of Unknown Americans by Cristina Henríquez Sixty Stories by Donald Barthelme The House on Mango Street by Sandra Cisneros Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut This Other Eden by Paul Harding The Known World by Edward P. Jones Featured Books (TBR Topoff): When We Left Cuba by Chanel Cleeton The Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett
55:3109/03/2024
Brad Gooch on RADIANT
Radiant: The Life and Line of Keith Haring is biographer Brad Gooch’s compassionate and comprehensive look at the artist’s work and archives. Gooch joined us to talk about why he chose Haring as a subject, the lasting legacy of his work, his connections to other artists and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Radiant by Brad Gooch City Poet by Brad Gooch Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs
48:0707/03/2024
Tana French on THE HUNTER
“The big reveal isn't 'who done it', the big reveal is why and what effects does it have?" Set in an insular small town in the Irish countryside, Tana French’s The Hunter follows a set of vibrant characters as they uncover secrets, plots and mystery among their friends and neighbors. French joins us to talk about writing mysteries that cross genres, writing village politics, the influences of Westerns on the novel and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The Hunter by Tana French The Searcher by Tana French In The Woods by Tana French The Likeness by Tana French Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry True Grit by Charles Portis The Secret History by Donna Tartt Mystic River by Dennis Lehane The Yiddish Policeman’s Union by Michael Chabon Strange Sally Diamond by Liz Nugent
45:2805/03/2024
Idra Novey on TAKE WHAT YOU NEED
"I do think it was freeing for me to write about a female character who has been relegated to a corner, but she takes over the whole house." Take What You Need by Idra Novey is a story of home and family, coming of age and making art. Novey joins us to talk about her connection to the setting of the novel, art and identity, her influences and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Take What You Need by Idra Novey Ways to Disappear by Idra Novey Those Who Knew by Idra Novey Foster by Claire Keegan
45:5802/03/2024
Ilyon Woo on MASTER SLAVE HUSBAND WIFE
“I think the question has to do with American memory and what, as a nation, we are prioritizing in that memory…” Master Slave Husband Wife by Ilyon Woo blends history and biography with the story of Ellen and William Craft, two remarkable people who escaped slavery, and through danger and constant challenges would become abolitionists and heroes in American history. Woo joins us to talk about her research process, the importance of preserving our past, the ever-changing notion of history and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Master Slave Husband Wife by Ilyon Woo The Rediscovery of America by Ned Blackhawk All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead Middlemarch by George Eliot
53:5929/02/2024
Maurice Carlos Ruffin on THE AMERICAN DAUGHTERS
“If my mother and my grandma were in this book, how would they be? And what kind of love can I show them as a writer…” The American Daughters by Maurice Carlos Ruffin brings readers to pre-Civil War New Orleans to meet a cast of strong, fierce women in a hope filled novel of freedom and liberation. Ruffin joins us to talk about the intricacies of writing about his hometown, cultural impacts on identity, building empathy through fiction and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The American Daughters by Maurice Carlos Ruffin We Cast a Shadow by Maurice Carlos Ruffin The Prophets by Robert Jones, Jr. Ours by Phillip B. Williams American Spy by Lauren Wilkinson Lone Women by Victor LaValle Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov The Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides 12 Years a Slave by Solomon Northup Trust Exercise by Susan Choi
48:4927/02/2024
Poured Over Double Shot: Katherine Arden and Yangsze Choo
Two historical novels with elements of fantasy and folklore will bring readers from the battlefields of World War One to the last years of the Qing Dynasty in China. Katherine Arden’s The Warm Hands of Ghosts shows the terrors of war and the unsettling and fantastical things that can appear in its shadow. Arden joins us to talk about her extensive research, classical allusions in her writing and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. The Fox Wife by Yangsze Choo bridges the mystical and the familiar with an expansive story featuring a detective and mysterious and sly (yet alluring) fox spirits. Choo talked with us about writing in this setting, cultural influences on her work, connections to nature and more with host, Miwa Messer. We end this episode with a TBR Topoff from booksellers, Marc and Mary. Featured Books (Episode): The Warm Hands of Ghosts by Katherine Arden The Fox Wife by Yangsze Choo The Bear and the Nightingale by Katherine Arden All Quiet on the Western Front by Erich Maria Remarque Paradise Lost by John Milton The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov The Ghost Bride by Yangsze Choo The Night Tiger by Yangsze Choo The Great Reclamation by Rachel Heng Featured Books (TBR Topoff): The Night Circus by Erin Morgenstern The Paper Menagerie by Ken Liu
01:22:0824/02/2024
Andrés N. Ordorica on HOW WE NAMED THE STARS
“I describe this as a love story steeped in loss.” How We Named the Stars by Andrés N. Ordorica is a heartbreaking yet hopeful debut novel of first love, first loss and how we become ourselves. Ordorica joined us live at B&N Upper West Side to talk about growing into your identity, writing community legacy, his literary influences and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): How We Named the Stars by Andrés N. Ordorica Diaries of a Terrorist by Christopher Soto Small Bodies of Water by Nina Mingya Powles Waiting for Godot by Samuel Beckett The House on Mango Street by Sandra Cisneros
47:0422/02/2024
Phillip B. Williams on OURS
“To have freedom you have to give something up, to have love — to experience love as an action — there has to be something that you're willing to sacrifice…” Ours is the epic and lyrical debut novel by poet Phillip B. Williams, featuring unforgettable characters woven together with folklore and humanity’s search for freedom. Williams joined us to talk about how his characters shaped the story, the influences of poetry on his prose, including myths and legends and more with Miwa Messer, the host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Ours by Phillip B. Williams Mutiny by Phillip B. Williams Blindness by José Saramago One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez Cannibal by Safiya Sinclair
48:3120/02/2024
Bora Chung on YOUR UTOPIA
“The peril actually comes from us — our prejudice, our biases, and our conceived threats, not from artificial intelligence, so we need to reconsider what is human and how we're treating other human beings…” Unsettling and chilling, Bora Chung’s Your Utopia is a story collection featuring robot vehicles, sentient elevators and futures both hopeful and terrifying. Chung joins us to talk about the dangers of human influenced A.I., caring for our future robot overlords, adding humor to horror and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Your Utopia by Bora Chung Cursed Bunny by Bora Chung R.U.R. by Karel Čapek
33:1617/02/2024
Lucy Sante on I HEARD HER CALL MY NAME
“You can write all the books you want — they are going to be very pretty, but if they don't tell the truth, comprehensively, it's just not worth the effort.” Lucy Sante’s memoir, I Heard Her Call My Name: A Memoir of Transition, is deeply personal and features expertly crafted prose that tells the author’s journey to authenticity and freedom in her identity. Sante joins us to talk about the small steps that lead to a change in perspective, creating community, incorporating visual arts and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): I Heard Her Call My Name by Lucy Sante Low Life by Lucy Sante The Factory of Facts by Lucy Sante
47:2615/02/2024
Kelly Link on THE BOOK OF LOVE
“If you write about a person, you're writing about that person because they're special.” The Book of Love by Kelly Link combines fantastical elements, varieties of love and a supernatural bargain — all set in a picturesque seaside town. Link joins us to talk about what led her from short stories to her first novel, how she created her magic system, the influence of music on her writing and more with guest host, Kat Sarfas. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by guest host Kat Sarfas and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The Book of Love by Kelly Link White Cat, Black Dog by Kelly Link The Scandalous Confessions of Lydia Bennet, Witch by Melinda Taub Your Utopia by Bora Chung The Blacktongue Thief by Christopher Buehlman The Hearts of Horses by Molly Gloss
46:4413/02/2024
Kiley Reid on COME AND GET IT
“I am of the mind that a novel should not leave you with a thesis … I think a novel should reflect the deep parts of human behavior in such an accurate way that a wormhole forms…” With themes of race and class in a college town, Kiley Reid’s Come and Get It balances characters you can’t get enough of with a nonstop plot. Reid joins us to talk about money and marriage, power dynamics in academia, creating her crackling dialogue and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Come and Get It by Kiley Reid Such a Fun Age by Kiley Reid Paying for the Party by Elizabeth A. Armstrong & Laura T. Hamilton Monoculture by F.S. Michaels The Hours by Michael Cunningham
46:4608/02/2024
Sheila Heti on ALPHABETICAL DIARIES
“I'm interested in the limitations of the mind — like that your brain really does only go down so many paths, and then there's a million paths that for some reason, it never goes down…” Sheila Heti’s Alphabetical Diaries is a memoir in a form all its own. Told in order, sentence by sentence from A to Z, to tell a story of identity and change in a lyrically constructed way. Heti joins us to talk about the inception and writing of this book, intense and purposeful editing, creative process and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Alphabetical Diaries by Sheila Heti Pure Colour by Sheila Heti How Should a Person Be? by Sheila Heti Ticknor by Sheila Heti
42:3306/02/2024
Kwame Alexander on THIS IS THE HONEY
“I feel like these poems tell stories in and of themselves. And perhaps as an entire collection, they tell a greater story. … We're human beings — people laugh, love, hope, dream, dance, smile, live, die, just like everybody else. And Black people need to be reminded of that, and everybody else needs to be reminded of that.” This Is the Honey is the new poetry collection edited by Kwame Alexander featuring carefully curated poems from contemporary Black poets. Alexander joins us on the show to talk about compiling a collection of pieces, his own connections to this work and themes of identity and community with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): This Is the Honey edited by Kwame Alexander Why Fathers Cry at Night by Kwame Alexander The Crossover by Kwame Alexander
46:0303/02/2024
Dolly Alderton on GOOD MATERIAL
What can we do when our storybook romance ends? Good Material lets us laugh our way through the thick of heartbreak with sharp wit, the warmth of friendships and all too relatable moments from the throes of a breakup. Alderton joins us to talk about writing from the male perspective, the things we all do when our hearts get broken, the unspoken grief when relationships don’t work and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. We end this episode with TBR Topoff book recommendations from Marc and Mary. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays). Featured Books (Episode): Good Material by Dolly Alderton Everything I Know About Love by Dolly Alderton Ghosts by Dolly Alderton Featured Books (TBR Topoff): Cleopatra and Frankenstein by Coco Mellors Josh and Hazel’s Guide to Not Dating by Christina Lauren
52:0701/02/2024
Ruha Benjamin on IMAGINATION: A MANIFESTO
“My writing is always trying to open that up and to say — you can start here; you can start now.” Imagination: A Manifesto by Ruha Benjamin reminds us that our imaginations already know what a better world looks like. From education to challenging our systems of oppression and more, this insightful work shows a new place for us all to start from. Benjamin joins us to talk about the split between imagination and technology, changing our narratives to tell new stories, the importance of community and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Imagination: A Manifesto by Ruha Benjamin Race After Technology by Ruha Benjamin
47:5030/01/2024
Kyle Chayka on FILTERWORLD: HOW ALGORITHMS FLATTENED CULTURE
Filterworld by Kyle Chayka investigates one of our most prevalent yet often unnoticed influences — the algorithms that shape our online experiences from social media to shopping and more. Chayka joins us to talk about his own internet evolution, the concept of passive consumption and what we lose when the algorithms take over our feeds with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Filterworld by Kyle Chayka The Longing for Less by Kyle Chayka
50:0927/01/2024
Sabrina Imbler on HOW FAR THE LIGHT REACHES
“I really wanted to find connection with these creatures that I'll never meet…” Sabrina Imbler’s How Far the Light Reaches: A Life in Ten Sea Creatures is as unique and intriguing as the animals it explores. This book combines personal themes of race, gender, and family with reflections from the natural world in an unforgettable series of essays. Imbler joins us to talk about how they started writing about nature, the incredible and interesting creatures featured in their work, the connection between science and memoir and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays). Featured Books (Episode): How Far the Light Reaches by Sabrina Imbler The Underworld by Susan Casey Bitch by Lucy Cooke Vagina Obscura by Rachel E. Gross The Women’s House of Detention by Hugh Ryan
42:5625/01/2024
Kaveh Akbar on MARTYR!
“I hope that when there is laughter, it's laughter made wise by having known real grief — and when there is grief, it is made wise by having known real joy.” Martyr! by Kaveh Akbar is the story of a young Iranian American man searching for meaning through art, addiction, and connection. Akbar joins us to talk about writing both poetry and prose, collaboration with other novelists, creating compassion through writing and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Martyr! by Kaveh Akbar Calling a Wolf a Wolf by Kaveh Akbar Pilgrim Bell by Kaveh Akbar Wandering Stars by Tommy Orange The Vaster Wilds by Lauren Groff Ordinary Notes by Christina Sharpe
48:1823/01/2024
Poured Over Double Shot: Marie-Helene Bertino and Claire Oshetsky
Marie-Helene Bertino’s Beautyland gives insight into the human experience through the eyes of a young woman (who may or may not be an extraterrestrial) and reflects the joys and heartaches of life in way that will resonate with all readers. Bertino joins us to talk about her unforgettable character, looking at the world from an outsider’s perspective, the mysticism of a fax machine and more. Poor Deer by Claire Oshetsky starts with a childhood game ending in the unimaginable and sets off on a journey of grief, acceptance and the stories we tell ourselves to survive. Oshetsky joins us to talk about the inception of the novel, the themes of healing and connection, and writing in the natural world. Listen in as these authors speak separately with guest host, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays). Featured Books (Episode): Beautyland by Marie-Helene Bertino Poor Deer by Claire Oshetsky Parakeet by Marie-Helene Bertino The Secret Lives of Church Ladies by Deesha Philyaw The Final Revival of Opal & Nev by Dawn Walton Milk Blood Heat by Dantiel W. Moniz Chouette by Claire Oshetsky The Discomfort of Evening by Lucas Rijneveld The Witch Family by Eleanor Estes
01:24:2920/01/2024
Jericho Brown on HOW WE DO IT
How We Do It: Black Writers on Craft, Practice, and Skill is edited by Jericho Brown and contains diverse and expansive essays and other works on the craft of writing from acclaimed Black authors like Nikki Giovanni, Barry Jenkins, Jacqueline Woodson and more. Brown joins us to talk about identity and language, the necessity of treating yourself like a writer, creating a new form of poetry and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): How We Do It: Black Writers on Craft, Practice, and Skill by Jericho Brown Black on Black by Daniel Black The Tradition by Jericho Brown The New Testament by Jericho Brown
56:1118/01/2024
Dan Kois on VINTAGE CONTEMPORARIES
Vintage Contemporaries by Dan Kois is a fiction debut that blends a coming-of-age story with the themes of lasting friendship and what it takes to be an artist. Kois joins us to talk about the publisher that inspired the novel’s title, some of the important influences on his work, what he does in his day jobs and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Vintage Contemporaries by Dan Kois Asa, as I Knew Him by Susanna Kaysen Bad Behavior by Mary Gaitskill Home Cooking by Laurie Colwin Happy All the Time by Laurie Colwin I Am Homeless If This Is Not My Home by Lorrie Moore Angels in America by Tony Kushner The World Only Spins Forward by Isaac Butler & Dan Kois Eat Your Mind by Jason McBride The Zone of Interest by Martin Amis The Fraud by Zadie Smith The Heaven & Earth Grocery Store by James McBride
54:0116/01/2024
Bonnie Jo Campbell on THE WATERS
Bonnie Jo Campbell’s The Waters follows the interwoven and often complicated lives of a family of women inhabiting an island in a Michigan swamp. Campbell joins us to talk about the challenges in crafting this novel, matching her unique characters with an equally intriguing setting, small-town storytelling and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The Waters by Bonnie Jo Campbell Once Upon a River by Bonnie Jo Campbell American Salvage by Bonnie Jo Campbell King Lear by William Shakespeare The Beans of Egypt, Maine by Carolyn Chute Bastard out of Carolina by Dorothy Allison Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver
45:3413/01/2024
Hisham Matar on MY FRIENDS
“I think it is a moment where we are thinking a lot about our relationship to the places and the societies that we have … wanting to create deeper connections.” My Friends by Hisham Matar reflects family and friendships in the shadow of revolution as a man navigates life in exile. Matar joins us to talk about his journey to telling this story, the importance of time in a novel, exploring themes of political strife and identity and more with host, Miwa Messer. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books: My Friends by Hisham Matar The Return by Hisham Matar Kidnapped by Robert Louis Stevenson
49:5911/01/2024
Kayla Min Andrews on THE FETISHIST by Katherine Min
The Fetishist by Katherine Min is a darkly humorous and provocative novel of love, revenge, and identity published after her death in 2019. Min’s daughter, Kayla Min Andrews, joins us to talk about her mother’s work, taking on the task of finishing and publishing this novel, creating and continuing a legacy and more with host, Miwa Messer. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The Fetishist by Katherine Min Secondhand World by Katherine Min Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert Another Country by James Baldwin Holding Pattern by Jenny Xie All Grown Up by Jami Attenberg Conversations with Friends by Sally Rooney
37:2809/01/2024
Julie Myerson on NONFICTION: A NOVEL
Julie Myerson’s newest novel Nonfiction is intricate and raw, featuring themes of motherhood, addiction and what it means to write. Myerson joins us to talk about her approaches to writing a novel, her interwoven and often personal themes, how she picks her titles and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays). Featured Books (Episode): Nonfiction by Julie Myerson Something Might Happen by Julie Myerson Cheri by Jo Ann Beard Trust by Domenico Starnone The Tax Inspector by Peter Carey The Guest by Emma Cline
45:2906/01/2024
Ashley Flowers & Alex Kiester on ALL GOOD PEOPLE HERE
"People always asked 'what made you want to write fiction?' And I'm like, this isn't a departure. I feel like this is me going back to how it actually started..." All Good People Here, our January Mystery & Thriller Pick, has everything you want in a crime thriller — a cold case, an intrepid journalist and more twists and turns than you could count, all told from the host of the hit podcast Crime Junkie. Author Ashley Flowers and her co-writer Alex Kiester joined us to talk about their collaboration process, writing suspenseful moments, creating their small-town backdrop and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays). Featured Books (Episode): All Good People Here by Ashley Flowers & Alex Kiester Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn I Have Some Questions for You by Rebecca Makkai Bright Young Women by Jessica Knoll The Only One Left by Riley Sager
47:1004/01/2024
Vanessa Chan on THE STORM WE MADE
“Our ancestors, our grandparents, love us by not speaking…” The Storm We Made by Vanessa Chan follows one family in 1945 Malaya as they face the realities of a life shaped by war and colonization. Chan joined us to talk about her family connection to her novel, her unique journey to becoming an author, the things about writing that surprised her and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The Storm We Made by Vanessa Chan Sea Change by Gina Chung The Great Reclamation by Rachel Heng The Vanishing Half by Brit Bennett The Five Wounds by Kirstin Valdez Quade In Memoriam by Alice Winn
41:5802/01/2024
Colson Whitehead on CROOK MANIFESTO
“New York is a character in the book, and I hate it when people are like ‘the city's almost a character’” One of our favorites of 2023, Colson Whitehead’s Crook Manifesto is a crime novel and so much more with unforgettable characters and a gritty portrait of New York in the 70s. Whitehead joined us to talk about his portrayal of the city he grew up in, creating a code of honor for criminals, important movie references and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Crook Manifesto by Colson Whitehead Harlem Shuffle by Colson Whitehead The World According to Fannie Davis by Bridgett Davis The Colossus of New York by Colson Whitehead
37:2416/12/2023
Gilbert Cruz, NYT Books Editor
“I think it's actually good for discussion, because you want to see a range of variety of books on these top 10 lists.” It’s been a great year for books! With best-of-the-year lists rolling out, Gilbert Cruz, Books Editor at the New York Times, sat down with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over, to discuss some favorites of the year, how the top lists are compiled, the joys of recommending books and more. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Lone Women by Victor LaValle Birnam Wood by Eleanor Catton North Woods by Daniel Mason The Heaven & Earth Grocery Store by James McBride Chain Gang All Stars by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah The Story of Art Without Men by Katy Hessel Fire Weather by John Vaillant Master Slave Husband Wife by Ilyon Woo The Wager by David Grann Same Bed Different Dreams by Ed Park Poverty, by America by Matthew Desmond A Living Remedy by Nicole Chung The Bee Sting by Paul Murray The Fraud by Zadie Smith The Unsettled by Ayana Mathis A Man of Two Faces by Viet Thanh Nguyen Land of Milk and Honey by C Pam Zhang Loot by Tania James Crook Manifesto by Colson Whitehead Whalefall by Daniel Kraus This Other Eden by Paul Harding
39:2814/12/2023
Ned Blackhawk on THE REDISCOVERY OF AMERICA
Winner of the National Book Award for Nonfiction, The Rediscovery of America by Ned Blackhawk puts Indigenous history at the center to create a fuller and more accurate depiction of America’s past and future. Blackhawk joins us to talk about the erasure of Indigenous peoples from American history, retelling narratives from new perspectives, the surprises he found in his research and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The Rediscovery of America by Ned Blackhawk
48:2212/12/2023
Sowmya Krishnamurthy on FASHION KILLA
Fashion Killa by Sowmya Krishnamurthy offers an in-depth look at the significant cultural intersection between hip-hop music and the world of fashion. Krishnamurthy joins us to talk about her career leading up to writing this book, the research she did, gender roles in hip-hop and fashion and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Fashion Killa by Sowmya Krishnamurthy
42:5609/12/2023
Lindsay Hunter and Roxane Gay
Hot Springs Drive by Lindsay Hunter is a raw and visceral novel that explores primal desires, shocking secrets and the effects they have on those that uncover them. Hunter is joined by her publisher, Roxane Gay, a prolific author in her own right including her new collection, Opinions. The two join us to discuss collaboration and revision, writing the gritty details of life, advice for writers and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. We end this episode with TBR Topoff book recommendations from Marc and Jamie. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Hot Springs Drive by Lindsay Hunter Opinions by Roxane Gay O Caledonia by Elspeth Barker Empty Theatre by Jac Jemc The Wilder Life by Wendy McClure Featured Books (TBR Topoff): Eileen by Ottessa Moshfegh The Need by Helen Phillips
01:02:4007/12/2023
Emily Wilson on THE ILIAD
Emily Wilson’s new translation of The Iliad brings to life this divine tale of conflict, love and honor in a way that feels fresh and compulsively readable. Wilson joins us to talk about the universality of Homer’s work, working with gods and epic themes, translating for modern audiences and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays). Featured Books (Episode): The Odyssey translated by Emily Wilson The Iliad translated by Emily Wilson
41:5805/12/2023
Merlin Sheldrake on ENTANGLED LIFE: THE ILLUSTRATED EDITION
“It’s important for us to examine those inherited perspectives that … guide the way that we think and feel and imagine with regard to other life forms on the planet.” Entangled Life: The Illustrated Edition brings readers back to the wondrous realm of fungi, now with stunning photographs that illuminate this mysterious piece of our world in a new way. Sheldrake joins us to talk about adding a new medium to his work, the influences of fungi on culture, important conservation efforts and more with guest host, Chris Gillespie. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Chris Gillespie and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays). Featured Books (Episode): Entangled Life by Merlin Sheldrake Entangled Life: Illustrated Edition by Merlin Sheldrake
55:4002/12/2023
Ed Park on SAME BED DIFFERENT DREAMS
Ed Park’s Same Bed Different Dreams blends history, technology and pop culture in a novel that spans time and reality in an unforgettable way. Park joins us to talk about the long gap between his books, writing and identity, media connections in his work and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Same Bed, Different Dreams by Ed Park Personal Days by Ed Park Big Bang by David Bowman The Notebook by Ágota Kristóf
49:2230/11/2023
Helen Garner on THE CHILDREN'S BACH and THIS HOUSE OF GRIEF
With recent reprints of The Children’s Bach and This House of Grief, Helen Garner’s voice returns in two of her best works — a novel featuring the intricacies of complicated family life and a nonfiction account of one of Australia’s most shocking criminal cases. Garner joins us to talk about how she came to write each of these stories, keeping diaries, the complexities of human character and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The Children’s Bach by Helen Garner This House of Grief by Helen Garner Monkey Grip by Helen Garner
42:3228/11/2023
Jeff Tweedy on WORLD WITHIN A SONG
In Jeff Tweedy’s newest book World Within a Song, the accomplished musician shares fifty influential songs that have shaped his life and career and shows us how music can create connection for all. Tweedy joins us to talk about the impact of music on identity, the shared qualities between his different mediums, his thoughts on authenticity and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays). Featured Books (Episode): World Within a Song by Jeff Tweedy How to Write One Song by Jeff Tweedy Let’s Go (So We Can Get Back) by Jeff Tweedy This Is Not a Novel by David Markson The Tunnel by William H. Gass The World Within the World by William H. Gass
34:2223/11/2023
Tracy K. Smith on TO FREE THE CAPTIVES
Former U.S. Poet Laureate Tracy K. Smith’s To Free the Captives combines the beauty of a memoir with a grander look at America’s history and future. Smith joins us to talk about family and cultural identity, race and belonging, the importance of poetry and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): To Free the Captives by Tracy K. Smith Such Color Tracy K. Smith Life on Mars Tracy K. Smith Wade in the Water Tracy K. Smith
52:4621/11/2023
Gabriel Bump on THE NEW NATURALS
“My favorite parts of this book are when you have two characters … talking about what they want from the world and how they can achieve it.” The New Naturals by Gabriel Bump showcases a cast of relatable and deeply human characters as they attempt to create a perfect society in an imperfect world. Bump joins us to talk about his writing process, creating characters that feel messy and real, grief and hope and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The New Naturals by Gabriel Bump Everywhere You Don’t Belong by Gabriel Bump War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy Finnegans Wake James Joyce The Unconsoled by Kazuo Ishiguro Divine Days by Leon Forrest
41:0718/11/2023
Sigrid Nunez on THE VULNERABLES
The Vulnerables by Sigrid Nunez reflects our complicated and constantly changing world, featuring unlikely connections and even a parrot named Eureka. Nunez joins us to talk about the autobiographical details in her works, her unique writing process, incorporating humor into her novels and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): The Vulnerables by Sigrid Nunez The Friend by Sigrid Nunez What Are You Going Through by Sigrid Nunez A Feather on the Breath of God by Sigrid Nunez Sempre Susan by Sigrid Nunez Sleepless Nights by Elizabeth Hardwick My Phantoms by Gwendoline Riley First Love by Gwendoline Riley Seven Steeples by Sarah Baume
45:4916/11/2023
Michael Cunningham on DAY
Set on one day in April in three different years, Day by Michael Cunningham is an intimate analysis of family love and connection. Cunningham joins us to talk about translating his writing from thoughts to words, writing a pandemic novel that isn’t really a pandemic novel, using literature as a connection to the world and more with Miwa Messer, host of Poured Over. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Executive Producer Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app. Featured Books (Episode): Day by Michael Cunningham Specimen Days by Michael Cunningham The House of Mirth by Edith Wharton The Mill on the Floss by George Eliot Death in Venice by Thomas Mann The Hours by Michael Cunningham Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert By Nightfall by Michael Cunningham
38:2314/11/2023
Melissa Broder on DEATH VALLEY
“Shift in perception is a miracle” Death Valley by Melissa Broder is part desert survival story, part examination of grief — mixing the absurd with the profoundly human in a feat of imagination. Broder joins us to talk about the realities of anticipatory grief, incorporating fantastical elements into the real world, including humor in her work and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays). Featured Books (Episode): Death Valley by Melissa Broder The Pisces by Melissa Broder Milk Fed by Melissa Broder The Babysitter at Rest by Jen George Open Throat by Henry Hoke Mrs. Caliban by Rachel Ingalls Leave Society by Tao Lin The Passion According to G.H. by Clarice Lispector Desert Solitaire by Edward Abbey Correction by Thomas Bernhard Journal of a Solitude by May Sarton
29:1211/11/2023
Stephanie Land on CLASS
“I think the bigger stuff isn't going to happen if we can't change the fact that we're not really seeing each other.” Class by Stephanie Land is a portrait of motherhood, the institutions of education, and the realities of life for those under the poverty line, full of heart, compassion and wit. Land joins us to talk about her hopes for the book, her experiences with secondary education and motherhood, her identity as a writer and more with guest host, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays). Featured Books (Episode): Class by Stephanie Land Maid by Stephanie Land
38:4309/11/2023