This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Stephen Goldberg, CEO at HarperDB. Stephen is an established thought leader in the IoT space, with previous professional experience as a CTO and CEO of startups, holding several roles at larger organizations like Red Hat, and leading digital transformation projects at a number of Fortune 500 companies across many verticals. He’s been published on sites like Tech Target and quoted in a number of articles and publications like Forbes and ZDNet, as well as being a speaker at IoT World, SAP Sapphire, and Salesforce.com’s Dreamforce. Stephen holds 2 patents and received his Bachelor of Arts from Trinity College-Hartford in 2006.In this episode, Stephen talks about being a self taught programmer that initially wanted to work in anything but technology. He explains the process of co-founding HarperDB to deal with the rigidity and complexity of databases, and how the company makes it easier to globally distribute data faster. Stephen also discusses how bureaucracy, in many ways, is the biggest challenge to innovation and the adoption of new technologies. ---------Key Quotes:“For example, while we felt like the iPhone is an extremely complex device, technologically and internally, it exposes a very simple interface to the world that even a child can use. And, so our thought process was that a database should be the same for a developer. It should be a thing that a developer can just sit down and code, and ultimately, we have built far more than a database in the end. But, that was kind of the premise of what we wanted. We wanted something that would scale with you as your application grew, that made your life easy.The bureaucracy, like the speed at which people move, their ability to think about how things work, that is now the one that I think is the biggest challenge is that this stuff is now and it's here. And, if you really wanted to do it, you could, but I think it's also just changing how people think about stuff. So, like you know, willingness to adopt new technologies, willingness to adopt new architectural paradigms, not trying to bring sort of the same cloud centralized sort of cloud model that you implemented to the edge, because it's not gonna work, because it doesn't scale.”---------Show Timestamps:(02:00) Getting started in tech(05:00) Starting HarperDB(08:35) What makes HarperDB unique(16:00) Understanding HarperDB(22:00) Use cases for HarperDB(26:45) HarperDB’s cloud product(35:15) New product release(36:30) Internet of Things(46:00) HarperDB in gaming(48:15) The future of tech--------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInConnect with Stephen on LinkedInwww.CaspianStudios.com

This part 2 of 2 episodes of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Vishwamitra Nandlall, VP Technology Strategy & Ecosystems at Dell Technologies. Vish is an experienced CTO and a highly regarded telecom visionary. He is responsible for defining Dell’s technology strategy in the Big 6 domains, including 5G, Edge, Data Management, Cloud, AI and Security. Widely recognized for his contributions to the industry, Vish has also held CTO executive leadership roles in Telecommunications for 25 years, including Telstra, Ericsson, Extreme and Nortel. Vishwamitra has been awarded a fundamental patent for LTE, published several widely cited technology papers, and holds several patents for the design of cloud based mobile applications and communication services.In this episode, Vish discusses the future of technology and his excitement over augmented reality and virtual reality. He also talks about the future of edge computing, including everything from cost to security, and the realities of what’s needed for its advancement and further adoption in the tech world.---------Key Quotes:“Real productivity comes at the intersection of people, labor and the types of tasks that they're trying to do. A lot of what edge can do is to start to mediate that intersection.”“The real gift that edge is going to be able to deliver, is the realization of all these technologies that have had limited reach, are suddenly going to be able to spill out of the cyber domain and into the meet space.”---------Show Timestamps:  (02:00) Open Grid Alliance(04:15) Future of Technology(13:00) Competition and Commercial Partnerships(19:00) Considering the Customer(21:30) Important Future Technological Focus--------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInConnect with Vishwamitra on LinkedInwww.CaspianStudios.com

This part 1 of 2 episodes of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Vishwamitra Nandlall, VP Technology Strategy & Ecosystems at Dell Technologies. Vish is an experienced CTO and a highly regarded telecom visionary. He is responsible for defining Dell’s technology strategy in the Big 6 domains, including 5G, Edge, Data Management, Cloud, AI and Security. Widely recognized for his contributions to the industry, Vish has also held CTO executive leadership roles in Telecommunications for 25 years, including Telstra, Ericsson, Extreme and Nortel. Vish has been awarded a fundamental patent for LTE, published several widely cited technology papers, and holds several patents for the design of cloud based mobile applications and communication services.In this episode, Vish talks about laying the railroads for telecommunications. He discusses his career path and the work he did developing personal data appliances and smartphones. Vish goes over development and privatization of the internet. He explains how artificial intelligence has become a huge part of Dell products. And, delves into details about the build out of infrastructure, connectivity, and bandwidth.---------Key Quotes:“We've moved towards this internet where we've centralized compute that creates pooling efficiencies, but it comes at the expense of propagation delay. But, largely what fueled the internet was the growth of a digital economy that was self-contained. It didn't have a lot of tendrils out into the real world. And, I think what Edge does is it starts to put up a series of sensors into the real world and it bridges this real world with this cyber world.”---------Show Timestamps:  (02:15) Getting Started in Technology(05:15) Path to Telecommunications(06:25) State of Advanced Technology in 1995(10:15) Switch Networks(15:15) Development of Internet Content Delivery(23:15) Networking Standards and Internet Organization(25:45) Path to Dell(20:45) Difference between Propagation and Transmission(32:45) Path to Dell Continued(38:15) Software vs. Hardware(39:15) Dell’s Role in Telecommunications--------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInConnect with Vishwamitra on LinkedInwww.CaspianStudios.com

This episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Wolfgang Gentzsch, Co-Founder and President of UberCloud. Wolfgang is a passionate engineer, computer scientist, and entrepreneur with 30 years of experience working in engineering simulations, high-performance computing, scientific research, university teaching, and the software industry, from hands-on practices to expert consulting to leadership positions. He is an entrepreneur with six successful startups in Germany and the US, in engineering, high-performance computing, and cloud. Wolfgang is a member of numerous conference program, steering, and organizing committees, with 50+ keynote speaker appointments.In this episode, Wolfgang tells us about the early days of network computing and how the grid was the predecessor to the cloud. He describes how advancements in connectivity and processing power can lead to revolutionary changes in everything from technology to healthcare. Wolfgang also explains what he thinks edge computing is today, and how his company is working to help democratize access to computing power in the cloud that was previously too expensive or too complex for most organizations to use.---------Key Quotes:“Definitely, the grid was the predecessor of the cloud. And that's why there is not a real huge difference in both. The cloud infrastructure was completely virtualized and therefore fully automated and now I use that word democratized because almost everybody was able to use cloud resources then; which you couldn't easily say about grid. The grid was really for specialists in research centers.” “You can innovate at your fingertips these days. You don't have to build, you know, 2, 3, 4, 5 models and crash them against the wall. Now you do it in the cloud, which might cost a thousand dollars or $5,000 even, but it's much, much, much, cheaper. So, there are tons of benefits these days when you move to the cloud.” “Now HPC is really in the hands of everybody. For engineers and scientists a few decades ago it was only given into the hands of specialists, and that door is open for so many new applications,  making any kind of research or products basically coming out much faster with exponential acceleration, which will continue tol help us to solve problems, real problems. It's I mean, like in healthcare, for example, or climate and weather forecast, and also new technologies like electrical cars, autonomous driving, and all that stuff. So, I mean it is successfully making our lives even more convenient, more comfortable, and also solving mankind problems which we are facing.”---------Show Timestamps:(01:45) Getting involved in technology(03:05) Difference between Scaler and Vector Computers  (07:45) Conversion of Parallel Computing and the Internet (13:00) Network Computing and the Cloud  (19:45) Convergence of Grid and Cloud Computing (23:45) High Performance Computing and Super Computing (28:15) Difference Between the Cloud and High Performance Computing(30:45) Uber Cloud (39:45) Living Heart Valve Project (41:45) Uber Cloud Project Example(46:45) Growth of High Performance Computing and the Edge (53:05) Future of the Cloud(55:15) Is the Network or the Internet the Computer?(60:30) What’s Exciting in the Future--------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies - unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInConnect with Wolfgang on LinkedInwww.CaspianStudios.com

This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Christian Koch, Founder and Editor at Foundations, a modern publication about digital infrastructure. He is a veteran leader in the digital infrastructure space having held several leadership and operational roles at companies such as Microsoft, Twitter, and Globix. Christian was most recently the Head of Interconnection Product at DataBank, and previously a Director of Product Management at Digital Realty and PacketFabric. In 2016, Christian Co-Founded the New York Network Operators Group, a non-profit organization that aims to connect network operators and technology professionals through educational events and programs.In this episode, Christian talks about how his interest in information and curiosity to learn about as much as he could, led him to become both a generalist and expert in the world of digital infrastructure. He explains the landscape of interconnectivity, including its history of development, current infrastructure, expansion, evolution, and use throughout the United States. Christian also delves into what he thinks edge is becoming, the different layers of networking, and how the cloud will become a primary infrastructure for workloads in the future. ---------Key Quotes:“Ethernet seems to be having this resurgence because it's probably the one technology that's is flexible as virtual machines in the cloud. You can basically scale it up and down. Whereas, you can go from a five gigabit ethernet circuit to a 10 gigabit ethernet circuit by issuing some configuration commands and making that change. Similar to how you can configure or reconfigure a virtual machine. Whereas, a wavelength isn't really like that, because it's all about dedicated connectivity. So if you think about ethernet share connectivity, that's what cloud computing is at the end of the day anyway; the shared infrastructure platform. So it makes it a little bit more flexible, and a little bit more easy to scale and deliver those services.”“I don't even like using the word edge anymore because, you know, because I think it really boils down to it's just a place like geographical place. Right? You know, it doesn't have to do with networks. It doesn't have to do with clouds. It didn't have to do with computing. It's just, you know, kind of the perimeter between almost like interconnection.”---------Show Timestamps:  (02:00) Getting Interested in Technology(04:30) Path to Networking and Interconnection(05:50) Explaining Interconnection(09:15) Backbone of Interconnectivity in the United States(15:43) Public versus Private Networks(18:45) Internet as a Fabric(21:06) Network as a Service(32:00) State of the Edge (37:30) Internet Trends(40:30) The Price of Shipping Data(44:00) Future Trends--------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies - unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInConnect with Christian on LinkedInFoundations Newsletterwww.CaspianStudios.com

This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Steve Mueller, Chief Technology Officer, Hypersive. Considered one of the world’s leading experts in remote technologies, Steve has spent the past 25 years providing his technical expertise to more than 300 of the largest enterprises across 5 continents. He spent his early years building core devops and virtualization principles to achieve automation and scale, has worked for VMware and AWS addressing customer needs, and is now CTO of a startup focused on next-generation edge, end-user compute, and device virtualization.In this episode, Steve evaluates what the edge is today and how it has changed overtime. He talks about cloud computing and working in a remote desktop world. Steve addresses the future of physical security and technology, and why he is so excited about what’s in store for the use of video. He also explains how his company Hypersive provides a platform for building management and security through ready-to-run cloud services that work with already existing infrastructures. ---------Key Quotes:“The number one threat to any organization is the insider threat. So you don't trust your own people and that's very brutal. It's borderline non humanitarian, but if you're a business owner, especially at scale, the number one thing you're worrying about, the thing you're most proud about is your employees. Something you're worried about is your employees most. That's the one that takes companies down.” “Really at the end of the day, remote desktops and remote applications run in the cloud. So, if we take something like Amazon, AppStream, or Amazon workspaces, they give you an inherently improved security posture. You get to govern and control in ways that you couldn't before.” “We're focused on taking the technologies that customers use to manage their buildings and delivering it back to them as a service so that they can get off their traditional racks and consume those things that are either video surveillance or access control, the physical security world, or things like escalators, elevators, and commercial controls. They can consume that as a service and by service. In the end, our mission is to say, those workloads that you have in your building, it's not about the rack. It's about the fact that you, the customer, are having to constantly install it, or you're having to pay someone to install it. This is undifferentiated heavy lifting. What if we gave it back to you as a service that you consume and let you choose where to place it on the hardware? And so, we're really working with these customers to take these workloads, deliver them back to them as single tenant SAS services that they can consume. They don't have to put their people on it to build them. They can just use it in a consumption way and then they can put it where they want.”---------Show Timestamps:  (02:15) Getting into Technology (04:00) Transitioning into Software (05:05) Nostalgia Software Language(06:00) Editor of Choice(07:30) Career Journey(09:45) Working for Amazon(13:15) Working in a Remote Desktop World(16:00) Working in Amazon Data Centers(19:05) Founding Hypersive(22:15) Physical Security and Technology(27:00) Important Considerations for Building Security(31:00) Surveillance Cameras(36:30) Hypersive’s Focus on Cloud Security(41:00) Interacting with and Future of the Edge (48:45) The Future World of Video Technology and Security--------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInConnect with Steve on LinkedInwww.CaspianStudios.com

This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and David Knight, President & CEO of Terbine, a data exchange for the physical world that has built a highly scalable system enabling wider use of data to inform and radically reshape many industries and everyday life. David is a serial entrepreneur, angel investor, filmmaker, and experienced startup executive with a history of innovation and market development. He has a background in core technologies, including multi-spectral sensing and communications, messaging, enterprise software and distributed systems. David has founded, co-founded and held leadership roles in tech companies with exits including two IPOs, two M&A buyouts, and two recession-triggered meltdowns. He now leads Terbine, a big data & AI startup.In this episode, David talks about his journey from working on ham radios to being a pioneer in the early days of digital entertainment. He also discusses his involvement in the beginning of online storage, helping to launch the private space race, and dedicating himself to dealing with, analyzing, and processing the overwhelming amount of data that comes out of everyday life. David explains how all of this led to founding Terbine, and how the company has partnered with the City of Las Vegas to help propel the world to prosper through insight, communication, and emerging technologies. ---------Key Quotes:“They really want to make Vegas a place where they work on smart city technology and next generation communications. And, they're really investing in it, but more importantly, they're inviting startups and large companies to work together. And, so if you’re thinking of a city as a platform, which is not a normal way to look at a city, we are really trying to help the city itself become smart and also sustainable. You don't necessarily think of Las Vegas as a sustainable city, but if you think about it with things like the water shortage is coming up, it's a place that really needs to be sustainable.”“The most interesting applications, which absolutely are going to be dependent on very rapid edge processing with low latency communications, are going to be in things that move. And, it could be a human moving. It could be commercial things. The first applications that we're actually looking at, and we will be doing very soon are in the commercial world.”“What we're trying to do is say, look, we've already said, we're going to take the pulse of the earth, so now we're going to wire the physical environment into the digital twin and then collectively you can now navigate around it.”“The more we can help the cities learn about the past, the present, and then extrapolate into the future, the better. So, it's not just the hedge funds that are going to make future bets. It'll be the cities themselves.”---------Show Timestamps:(02:45) Getting into technology(03:30) Arc to current role(05:55) Working with new computing technology (02:43) Early days of email / Start of Click to Send(08:30) XPrize Competition development and execution(19:17) What is Terbine?(21:10) Breaking apart the problem space(22:10) Looking at issues in 3D(25:15) Breaking down data silos(26:10) Dealing with fear and greed(27:06) Motto - ‘Take the pulse of the earth’(29:30) There are sensors everywhere(32:30) Mobile Edge Computing(36:28) Processing data and storage(41:48) Compression algorithms(43:15) Sharing data(44:40) Solving business and technology problems(45:30) Tech Startups in Las Vegas(49:30) Las Vegas Smart City Showcase(52:00) Terbine and Las Vegas partnership(53:30) Las Vegas as a privately funded smart city(54:30) How Las Vegas conducts business(56:30) Vegas loop(57:30) Brightline rail from Las Vegas to California(58:52) Uses for Terbine platform(01:03:30) Using Drones(01:05:30) Digital Twin implementation and uses--------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInConnect with David on LinkedInConnect with David on Twitterwww.CaspianStudios.com

This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Stephanie Atkinson, CEO, Founder, and Principal Analyst/Consultant at Compass Intelligence.For more than 25 years, Stephanie has provided strategic insights, key trends, market intelligence, industry modeling/forecasting, and advisory services to technology companies, enterprise executives, and government leaders across the globe. She is the founder and CEO of Compass Intelligence, a leading tech advisory and market research firm based in Texas, and recently founded vMarque.com, serving SMBs with branding, web design, and marketing. Her knowledge base and expertise are centered around telecom, IT, mobile, IoT, emerging technology, and various high-tech topics. In this episode, Stephanie talks about the hype behind the variances of edge computing, including the results from her Business Edge Report that give insights on the thought processes of business users and technology decision makers, and where money is being spent and how it is being used in the world of technology. She also talks about the future of the Internet of Things, the importance and applications of automation, and provides advice for women working in technology. ---------Key Quotes:“The one thing that I like to just hammer to my customers is I think that we over-hype technology each and every day and we need to be simplifying it. So the biggest takeaway is that we need to simplify not only how we're communicating with the customers, but we need to do our homework to better understand their ecosystem and the vendors that they're working with. That’s not just technology vendors, but their entire ecosystem. Because, if we don't understand their industry and what's going on with their day to day work, then that technology is something that over-complicates some of the things that they're working on. They don't want to hear about some gizmo or IoT. They want you to help solve problems.”“We as an industry have to get away from the technology jargon and really start getting closer to our customers, applying it to their use cases, and speaking in their language. We continue to have a massive gap there. That's a big area that we help our customers with today.”“We are looking at patterns. We're applying machine learning and artificial intelligence. And, we're working to bring together the human and the digital world, as we continue to automate businesses and operations. This is the evolution that we're in right now.”---------Show Timestamps:(02:10) Stephanie’s Background(04:03) Branching out into other Technologies(07:13) Benefits of IoT and Machine to Machine Communication(13:10) Compass’ Client Base and Needs(14:10) Biggest Trends Not Obvious to Others  (16:36) The Metaverse isn’t a Brand New Took(17:25) Getting Closer to Understanding, Supporting, and Communicating with the Customer(18:55) The Business Edge Report Results and Findings(23:49) Getting Smart with Value Added Reseller Relationships(26:30) Efforts in Edge Computing(28:52) Examples of Real-time Data Intelligence (31:26) The Importance of Security on the Edge(35:50) Hybrid Approach to Edge and Cloud Computing(37:55) Simplicity of Implementing Plug and Play Solutions(38:60) Seamless Exchange of IoT Data On a Global Scale(43:40) Having a Strategic Perspective and Plan (45:36) Advice for Women in Technology --------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInConnect with Stephanie on LinkedInConnect with Stephanie on Twitterwww.Businessedgereport.comwww.CaspianStudios.com

This episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Jennifer Fritzsche, Head of North American Telecom and Digital Infrastructure at Greenhill & Co., which is a leading independent investment bank focused on providing financial advice on significant mergers, acquisitions, restructurings, financings and capital raising to corporations, partnerships, institutions and governments. Jennifer has a career record of success in providing thought leadership, strategic vision, and business insight leading to significant business growth and shareholder value. She is considered a leading expert in the telecommunications services, cable, data center and tower sectors. Jennifer is seen as a client-focused leader who is a trusted advisor and partner to clients, investors and boards of directors.In this episode, Jennifer talks about navigating the continually changing world of technology, what aspects of it are missed most, and what is important to consider when strategizing for your business. She shares insight on everything from the edge and the uncabling of cable, to the importance of fiber, wireless, and data centers to shared infrastructures. Jennifer also discusses her recommended strategies for access providers and cloud computing, as well as her top technology trends for 2022. ---------Key Quotes:“Fiber is really the basis of every infrastructure you need. Data centers don't work without fiber related to them. Small cells don't work without fiber related to them. Towers, you need that back haul and front piece, which is the fiber going up. So, in order to carry all this traffic that fiber is critical. The veins in your body carry the blood around. So it's important and really can't be overestimated.”“A tower is, I think, the best model ever made, because it's such a passive infrastructure. And I always used to joke the only cost to the tower was paying the taxes and sending the guy to mow the lawn underneath because there's really no embedded costs, which is why they're what we call contribution margins or every incremental dollar of revenue, there's like a 90% fall through to the margin. It's unbelievable.”“I think that you're really going to begin to see growth and the deployment of enterprises wanting to make a walled garden around some of their own enterprise that they don't have to rely solely on like the likes of AT&T and Verizon, but keep the networks as the name would imply private. “What I would do if I was the carriers, is kind of exactly what they're doing. I would say I need to buy spectrum. It's pay to play. I bought it and now I have to deploy it. And the traditional wireless model is 120% penetration in wireless right now in the US, so you have to pivot to new different areas of growth, private networks, IoT, enterprise; things like that, that can really drive that touch point to enterprise.”---------Timestamps:02:25 Getting involved in technology03:17 Navigating Technology03:50 Current role at Greenhill06:59 Millimeter Wave and the Uncabling of Cable08:23 What is a Franchise Territory13:05 Future of Cable13:45 Fiber’s Role in Infrastructure15:05 Blurring of Broadband Infrastructure Lines18:05 Microsoft and Amazon’s Wireless Strategies  20:55 Access Providers and Data Center Business24:05 Shared Infrastructure and Tower Territory26:05 Edge Computing 34:22 Unlicensed Spectrum and CBRS  35:41 Private Wireless37:25 Where Should Wireless Carriers Spend Their Money?38:55 Best Strategy for Cloud Computing and Wireless42:35 Spectrum and Shared Infrastructure44:15 Top Technology Trends for 2022--------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------LinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Jennifer on LinkedInFritzsche’s Forumwww.OvertheEdgePodcast.comwww.CaspianStudios.com

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Rob Tiffany, Executive Director at the Moab Foundation, and Founder and Managing Director at Digital Insights. A bestselling author and frequent keynote speaker, Rob serves on multiple boards and is routinely ranked as one of the top IoT experts and influencers in the world by Inc Magazine, Onalytica and other outlets.In this episode we delve deep into how Rob went from a life of driving submarines, to being self taught in technology, and eventually becoming a leader in the world of IoT. Rob explains the value of IoT and the best ways to sell and explain it to the average person in real world terms, so they understand how embracing technology can save them time and money. Finally, Rob talks about how edge computing, IoT, and automation can be used to help with sustainability around the globe.---------Key Quotes:“All that R&D and the rise of arm based processors are making things smaller that we would not have ever built. The chips, the sensors, the technology at a low cost - if it wasn't for this mega trend of smartphones forcing us down that path. And so a side effect of all this work, and you know how things like the most expensive version of the thing you make is the first version. And then it gets cheaper and cheaper. Well, IOT,  the thing part of it, the device side of it, benefited from the whole planet going all in on smartphones.”“When I talk about IOT and value, I try to stay away from saying AI and things like that. And I say, there is so much value just doing the stupid stuff, the low hanging fruit. I think we oftentimes do our customers a disservice because I hear people say IOT and AI in the same sentence over and over again. And I go, you know what, you really need to get in your car and I need you to drive to Omaha, Nebraska. I need you to drive to St. Louis. I need you to go to Oklahoma City, and I need you to meet real people who are just trying to get their job done. And they have no idea about your neural nets and stuff like that. And they don't understand it. And I think we scare customers. It turns out what my experience, not only at building Azure IT, but even more importantly building Lumata industrial IoT at Hitachi; I'd say that first 10 to 20% of value, whatever that means, saving money, making money that comes from the easy stuff. It really does. Just being connected, just not having to visit simple KPIs, simple thresholding; like stuff that manufacturers have done for a million years. It turns out that's the most of the value.”"So my big recommendation to the world is start to crawl before you run. Do the basics, because it turns out you might get tons of value that you never realized just by doing the easy stuff first. Don't feel pressured to do something you don't even understand."“When you talk about poverty, it turns out most poverty and hunger are related to farming. They are all correlated. Most of the poorest people in the world are in farming, and they're also starving. So when you can start knowing, remotely knowing in real time and doing it low cost out there where it happens, and then combined with automation, what's the action I'm going to take to make this better for someone, right? There's so much you can do. It's mind boggling.”---------Show Timestamps:(01:12) Time in the Navy(03:25) Getting started in technology(04:06) Getting started in Visual Basic(04:29) Getting started in IoT Career(10:17) Defining the Internet of Things(15:77) Connection between IoT and Smartphones(17:33) Power of Wireless and IoT(19:09) Briefing others on IoT while at Microsoft(21:36) IoT and Value (25:05) Edge Computing(33:08) Alternatives to on premise equipment(34:49) Automation strategy (43:49) What makes edge harder than the cloud?(44:31) Edge, IoT, and Sustainability (47:50) Digital Twins--------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInConnect with Rob on TwitterConnect with Rob on LinkedInwww.CaspianStudios.comRob’s Website and Podcast

This episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Rex St. John, founder of Taroko Technology. Rex has spent the last decade building developer and innovator ecosystems at Intel, Arm, and NVIDIA. He recently resigned to work full time in Web3 to organize communities and developer programs. While at NVIDIA, Rex built the global software ecosystem for NVIDIA Jetson. At Arm, he built global developer relations programs for IoT and Edge. While working for Intel, Rex was the lead developer on many projects and built the Global developer ecosystem and GTM for Edge AI, Robotics, Drones, IoT, Industrial, and Embedded Systems. On his YouTube channel, Rex shares knowledge, analysis and insights about the future of hardware, software and crypto technology. He received his education from the Isenberg School of Management, UMass Amherst and is on the advisory boards for Silicon Valley Robotics and Dronecode.In this episode, Rex tells us how he got his start in video game technology and then decided to learn to program and code on his own. He turned that into a career of coding, software development consulting, and technical evangelism. Rex provides his views on the evolution and adoption of Edge computing and IoT, including how kubernetes is helping to drive transformation. He also delves into the future of what he calls the ‘Machine Economy’ - where hardware, cryptocurrency, blockchain, and the metaverse may work in tandem to ensure continued efficiencies and support for business operations and security. Rex also raises the importance of improving the environmental impact of cryptocurrency and blockchain, and advancements in democracy, social engagement, and community. ---------Key Quotes:“I do think people get tired of hearing about IOT and the conversation has to change. And then ultimately, it's driven by the workloads and the profitability. If people aren't investing, then the innovations are going to move slower. And then if the workloads aren't there, then it's not a justified innovation. So, I think right now it feels very much like edge computing is on the rise.”“Shifting everything from manual allocation to the biggest thing I think is just shifting all compute resources to an open economy, where you can list anything on the network and get paid to put that on. I think that's going to have a very profound and massive impact on the computer industry at the very least.”---------Show Timestamps:(02:29) Getting Started in Technology(04:00) Evolution of Edge Computing and IoT (06:45) Electrical IMP and Particle(08:22) Internet Connectivity and Rise of Edge Computing(10:00) Latest Trends in IoT and Kubernetes(13:30) Kubernetes Driving Transformation(16:00) Orchestration(18:10) Machines Operating Machines(18:55) Principles of Web3 and Security(21:00) Intersection of Security with Web3, IoT, and Edge(22:30) Cryptocurrency, Helium Mining, and Device Networks(24:00) Demand for Hardware and maintaining efficiencies (26:20) Market Based Scheduling (28:40) Metaverse Rental GPU Market(29:40) Proof of Work and Proof of Stake(32:00) Improving Environmental Impact from Cryptocurrency and Blockchain(35:00) Machine Economy and Carbon Credits(36:36) Carbon Accountability (39:25) Doughnut Index / Doughnut Fund(43:30) Views on Regulation(46:45) Technology Breakthroughs(47:25) Innovations in Democracy, Social Engagement, and Community--------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInConnect with Rex on TwitterConnect with Rex on LinkedInWatch Rex’s Videos on YouTubeVisit Rex’s Websitewww.CaspianStudios.comRex’s Book Recommendations:Third Pillar Capitalism Without CapitalSovereign Citizen

This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Ali Fenn, a data center infrastructure and sustainability leader. She is the former CEO of IT Renew, which was recently acquired by Iron Mountain. Ali is an expert in green computing, sustainability and is a dynamic and innovative executive with a track record of success in business development, sales and product management. She is currently a board member of Cato, and strategic advisor for Energy Internet Corporation as well as Pentatonic.In this episode Ali Fenn breaks down the journey of technology from pre-use to post-use, and analyzes the amount of carbon emission produced throughout its lifecycle. She also talks about creating a circular IT infrastructure, demystifying hyperscale hardware, and causes of the ‘lion’s share’ of carbon emissions. She ends the episode talking about a need for the world’s collective effort in solving unsustainable IT infrastructure.---------Key Quotes:“They've [most companies] done a really good job at being efficient in the use phase, but supply chain is the next big place we all have to look at. It's the lion's share of carbon emissions. It's not just equipment, it's cement and construction and everything else that goes into the physical infrastructure.” “I do believe that it's this topic of sustainability and in the context of IT infrastructure: It's our global collective imperative to solve it. And, at the same time, it's a huge opportunity, right? Data center infrastructure is going to fuel the transition economy. It's a trillion dollar opportunity. This is not just sustainability, it is not a tax. It's an opportunity if we do it right.” “The idea here is to demystify hyperscale hardware and demystify open hardware. It doesn't have to be harder, but there is some work that goes into making it accessible to the broader markets. And that's the stuff that we do. We ultimately deliver it in a way that the enterprises can run super fast. And, that time-to-value is a big one, especially right now in the supply chain that we're in. You asked about the value proposition of this stuff, well, it's available. We're not manufacturing this stuff, right. So that's a huge advantage right now.”---------Timestamps:(02:30) Early on in Ali’s career(03:25) First Company Ali Joined(04:00) Transfer to Infrastructure and Hardware(05:50) What does ITrenew do?(07:53) Data Center Sustainability and the ‘3 scope’ terminology associated with carbon emissions(09:40) PUE - Power Usage Effectiveness(11:42) Hardware Footprints - Sustainability and Circularity(15:45) Hyperscale data centers(20:30) ITrenew and recycling vs. refurbishing(25:01) What is Sesame?(25:40) Data Security(29:38) Edge is Everywhere - computing impacting sustainability and equipment(33:21) Ecosystem Wide Collaboration and Data Center Sustainability(35:56) Supply chain data publication(36:45) TCO Levels(39:00) Rack Density(40:00) Business Model Innovation and Circular IT Infrastructure(42:30) Edge Computing Effects(45:15) Solving IT infrastructure --------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Ali on TwitterConnect with Ali on LinkedInwww.CaspianStudios.com

Episode Notes:In this episode Matt Trifiro interviews Kit Colbert, SVP and CTO at VMware. Kit started at VMware right out of college as an intern in 2003. He is responsible for ensuring VMware’s long term technology leadership through research and innovation programs, with the primary goal of positively impacting and shaping the future of VMware, its ecosystem, and its customers. Kit talks about how his role as CTO at VMware isn’t typical compared to his peers, and how he’s both looking out for near term deliverables and ensuring the company has a viable future. He provides insight on what he has learned and how the company has adapted and progressed over the years, discussing everything from the future of connectivity and bandwidth to blockchain and the open grid alliance.--------Key Quotes:"We're trying to balance sort of two aspects. Number one, sort of our near term deliverables to help engineering accelerate and deliver these new products in new ways for us. And number two, also chartered with ensuring that we've got a viable future. And so we’re looking at the different sorts of innovation, research, and things that are going to be paying the bills in maybe five to seven years.""It's basically a question of how do we as an industry build, deliver, and operate software. This is the challenge that we've been struggling with for the last few decades. And there's the sort of traditional model, which has been that you build it, then you test it, and then you ship it out to customers and they stand it up. I think the big shift that we're seeing is that people would prefer to get things as a service.""People are now looking for everywhere. And, I think the opportunity goes back a lot to the programming model. How can we make this as simple as possible for developers? Because I think the easier that you can make it, that's where you're going to win. People love simplicity, and that's one of the beauty of cloud; there's a tremendous amount of complexity, but that complexity is largely hidden most of the time."--------Timestamps:(02:00) Getting Started in Technology(05:10) Working at VMware(07:10) What does the CTO of VMware do?(07:40) What an Organization Values(08:40) Empowering Others(10:20) Ensuring a Viable Future(11:40) Existential Trends, Staying Ahead, and History of VMware(13:10) VMware Product Focus and Security Considerations(14:20) Focus of the office of CTO(15:30) Blockchain(17:50) Trends Driving Visualization and Multi-Cloud(23:21) Edge Opportunities(25:00) Open Grid Alliance(28:30) Modern Application Design(29:50) AI/ML Use Cases(31:39) VSan and Automation(35:05) Future of 6G and Networking(38:50) Architecture Opportunities and Integration (40:30) IoT and Considerations for Computing and Security(42:15) Edge and Multi-Cloud(45:00) Data Centers and Storage Locations(47:50) Email Signatures(54:10) Notion of Inclusion--------Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Kit on TwitterConnect with Kit on LinkedInKit’s Feedback FormWhat Message Does Your Email Signature Send? - Article by Kit Colbertwww.CaspianStudios.com

Episode Notes:This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Ian Faison, CEO of Caspian Studios and Matt Trifiro, Chief Marketing Officer at Vapor IO.Matt leads Vapor IO’s global marketing, branding and communications efforts. He is an expert in strategic positioning and edge computing, Co-chair of the State of the Edge Report, and Chair of The Linux Foundation’s Open Glossary of Edge Computing. He is an expert at strategic positioning, category creation, and PR. Matt always asks a lot of questions in search of the threads of understanding that move markets.In this episode Ian and Matt discuss the future and evolution of Edge computing, its scope and definition, and what that means for this podcast. They go over how Edge computing is powering the evolution of the internet grid, and what’s driving change in the industry. Ian and Matt also delve into the requirements for real time responsiveness, speed, and bandwidth to accomplish everything from complex computations to simply running a home appliance, which blur the line between what is traditionally considered the Edge and the Internet.Key Quotes:“As we improve the technology for virtual reality and augmented reality, and we reduce the weight of those headsets and the need to have a tether and all of these things, it may in fact become a much more compelling experience than it is today, which already is a fairly compelling experience. What are the challenges in delivering all these new experiences though Is that the internet can't do. It's not fast enough, it's not close enough. Or you start dealing with the speed of light as a problem among others and the infrastructure and the mechanisms to deliver these new kinds of services.”“What's the difference between edge and on premises? Nobody has a good answer. The real answer is nobody cares. Nobody cares where the computer is. You just want it to work. And so what's much more important is that we build the infrastructure and the software systems that allow us to place workloads that are, whether it is driving a factory, or autonomous car, or a streetlight, or AI inferencing for a video camera, or a game for my twelve-year-old - you want suffer systems that place these workloads at the right place automatically and run them autonomously at machine speeds, which we've never been able to do before.”“This idea that as a user, you're not thinking about where the electricity is coming from or how it's getting to you, or whether it's the right voltage or how many Hertz it's cycling between positive and negative. You're not thinking about any of that because that's not important. Just as long as your dishwasher, or your blender, or your coffee machine works, that's what you care about. And all this other very, very complex stuff happens on the backend in order for that to be possible. But you don't care about it, just as long as it works, and that's how the internet should be.”“There's a lot of insights that come from one field that when applied to another field, give you advanced technology. So, biology applied to engineering or engineering applied to biology, or neuroscience applied to chemistry. It's really interesting how different fields create different metaphors and ways of things that when applied in a new field, create insight. And I just want to create that opportunity for more people to understand how all these pieces might fit together, to be excited about it, but also just to elevate the understanding of how the world works.”Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.--------Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Ian on Twitterwww.CaspianStudios.com

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Fay Arjomandi, Founder, President, and CEO of mimik technology.Fay is a serial entrepreneur, multiple-time CEO, and authoritative voice in the tech industry. She is an official member of the Forbes Technology Council, and recently received the State of the Edge and Edge Computing World 2020 Edge Woman of the Year Award.In this interview, Fay discusses the origins of mimik’s hybrid edge cloud computing application development platform, and how it is enabling digital transformation and helping build a socially and economically sustainable applications ecosystem. Key Quotes“We are a big supporter of ecosystem. That's number one. We're basically saying that the opportunity is way bigger than one single company winning everything…We think this is an ecosystem play, and the opportunity is quite lucrative for everybody.”“We believe in the ecosystem that is like a Bazaar. Everybody defines their own set of things that they sell, and the consumer can pick and choose different parts of the product that they want from different entities and different companies. But the Bazaar itself goes by a set of regulations.”“The fast pace of the world is why restful APIs are so important, because there is so much we don't know. We don't know what we don't know. And I think that's one of the challenges of enterprises right now, it's almost like ‘Okay, I need to do my digital transformation. Where do I start?’"“Restful API has become so important and defining an architectural pattern of microservices has become so important, because that allows people to iterate on design, development, and delivery and integration with the rest of the world.”“When people say ‘What does mimik do?’ We say simply, we enable microservice development on any device. Because that is the key in terms of market adoption of digital solutions in a sustainable and systematic approach.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Seagate Technology. Seagate’s new CORTX Intelligent Object Storage Software is 100% open source. It enables efficient capture and consolidation of massive, unstructured data sets for the lowest cost per petabyte. Learn more and join the community at seagate.comLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Fay on TwitterEdge Woman of the Year Award 2021 

Today’s episode features an interview that took place earlier this month at Kubecon’s Kubernetes on Edge virtual conference between Matt Trifiro and Craig McLuckie.As a co-founder of the Kubernetes project and co-creator of the Cloud Native Computing Foundation, Craig is a modern-day legend in the space. He left Google in 2016 to found Heptio, and currently serves as VP of Product Management at VMware.In this interview, Craig discusses the Kubernetes origin story, his current work in the Modern Application Platform business unit at VMware, and why he says Edge will be a highly disruptive area of innovation.Key Quotes: “From a futures perspective, it's all about the edge. This is where I see the most excitement…I think it's going to be a huge growth area and a highly disruptive area of innovation over the coming years.”“To succeed in a startup, you really need to look for a moment of disruption where the set of incumbents are not able to move as quickly as they might like; where there's a high total addressable market…that's what you can create a successful business out of.”“There's no substitute for culture. I think if you can establish a very effective cultural bar, if you can design your culture to the problem at hand, and if you hold yourselves to a very high standard, it becomes self-perpetuating…[It starts] with being very, very deliberate about the cultural roots.”“We are an organization that is in service of the community and in service of our customers, and what we build is honest technology. So we stand behind the way that we build, and we stand behind what we build. We take a great degree of pride and delight in creating honest technology.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is NetFoundry. What do IoT apps, edge compute and edge data centers have in common?  They need simple, secure networking.  Unfortunately, SD-WAN and VPN are square pegs in round holes.  NetFoundry solves the headache, providing software-only, zero trust networking, embeddable in any device or app. Go to NetFoundry.io to learn more.LinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Craig on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between your host Matt Trifiro, and David Xie and Dalerie Wu of Zenlayer.David is the Chief Product Officer at Zenlayer. Before joining Zenlayer, he spent eight years at Gartner, most recently as Group Vice President of Digital Products. Dalerie is the Head of Corporate Strategy at Zenlayer. She has been with Zenlayer since 2015 and previously led its global marketing team. In this interview, David and Dalerie discuss the unique challenges of bringing edge solutions to emerging markets, and how the edge represents a huge opportunity to introduce a quality digital experience to countries with underdeveloped telecoms infrastructure. Key Quotes: “I'm sure a lot of technologists think about the edge from the technology angle. We tend to think about edge purely from our customer's perspective. Because we are serving global companies, they are usually doing well in their home country, which is usually in the developed world. For example, if the United States is the core market, then the emerging markets will become the edge for them.” -David“All of those emerging markets are growing at a much faster speed and they have tons of people, so if you add those two things together and then couple that with the poor infrastructure, that means there's a huge opportunity for infrastructure providers to bring a good or decent digital experience to those users.”  -David“In emerging markets, it's really people using mobile internet more than wired connections because of the infrastructure issue. It's hard for them to build fiber, so you have wireless internet being so much more dominant. Over 90% of people who are on the internet use a mobile device to access it.” -Dalerie“I think once [5G] does roll out to emerging markets, it will have a much bigger impact than it would probably have here in the US…[but] really building and ramping that up is going to be a challenge.” -Dalerie“Cloud and edge [are] complementary. Cloud is always going to be here as the core, but as more and more applications are being consumed by users all over the world at the edge, you need the edge computing component to complement that.” -DalerieSponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Zenlayer. Improving user experience doesn't have to be complicated or expensive. Zenlayer helps you lower latency with on-demand edge services in over 180 PoPs around the world. Find out how you can improve your users' experience today at zenlayer.com/edgeLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFind David on LinkedInFind Dalerie on LinkedIn

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Nick Barcet, Senior Director of Technology Strategy at Red Hat. Nick joined Red Hat in June 2014 and now leads the team that helps decide the future of technologies, currently focusing on Telco, Edge, and AI/ML. In this interview, Nick discusses what it means to set edge strategy for Red Hat, where he’s seeing the most edge-related demand right now, why the future of edge must be open, and the floating IP solution he’s constructed in order to get reliable internet while he sails around the world on his boat.Key Quotes: “When we’re talking about a new field of interest, what people are saying is still not yet normalized. We still have problems with definitions and there is a lot of confusion. If I take the average person in the IT field and ask them, ‘What is the edge?’ The answer is generally linked to mobile phones and 5G. And while these are important components, they are not the beginning nor the end of it. So I think it's super interesting to be in this early phase and trying to bring more clarity to the fog in which we are moving.”“[Three areas] where we see a lot of edge-related demand right now are: In telco–they are busy deploying 5G, which requires an edge infrastructure for it to be performant. Then automotive–lots of evolution is happening in the auto industry…And then the general industrial environment–whether it's oil and gas or standard factories–is really, really keen on improving their processes by deploying edge infrastructure. But it doesn't stop there. We see opportunities happening in retail, in healthcare, in the public sector, it’s really, really varied.”“When you're dealing with open-source software, there is never a case where a single company offers that piece of software, there are generally multiple options, and that's another way of protecting you from having to redo everything from scratch. So that's why I think that the edge cannot be fruitful--cannot bring maximum benefit--without being open, because if you are not protected against those risks, you're going to have a very, very costly edge.”“The evolution of networking…is going to change a lot of things on how we approach the networking problem…The availability of network is going to become a problem of the past. If we look at 20 years from now, we have hope to have instantaneous communication--as in quantum--we could have instantaneous communication from any point to any point.”“The other evolution that is really interesting is how we are using processing power in more specialized units. The fact that you have DPUs available in SmartNICs and we can use those to do things in parallel to what the main CPU is doing. I believe that this specialization of resources is going to enable a new generation of software that provides for problem-solving quicker and much cheaper than ever before. We've seen that revolution happen through GPU's, but we are only at the beginning of this revolution, and it's going to go through all kinds of discoveries.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Vapor IO, the leader in edge computing. We want to be your solution partner for the New Internet. Learn more at Vapor.ioLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Nick on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Lee Hetherington, VP of Technology at Ori Industries.Lee has been in the infrastructure and networking space for over twenty years, and prior to joining Ori, spent the last five years setting strategy and focusing on edge and content delivery for two of the world’s largest hyper-scalers.In this interview, Lee dives deep into the technological challenges of building the next generation of cloud, illustrating his and Ori’s approach to solving the infrastructure, software, networking, and business problems of constructing the globally-distributed edge cloud of the future.Key Quotes“I don't want to go and build a hundred megawatt deployment in any city in the world. That just seems crazy to me. That’s not what the edge is all about. Amazon does a really good job of that. So does Microsoft, so does Google. Why would we try and compete in that business?What we're looking to try and do here is: you're a developer, you're running your application inside one of these hyper-scalers. Now you want closeness to the user and that's the thing that's important with edge. That's where we can come in…that's where edge and cloud kind of complement each other more than they compete with each other.”“People asked me before I joined Ori, “What are you doing? This is crazy, this edge computing thing. Are there really legit use cases that are actually going to drive this thing?” But I think we're in this really interesting position where…if you're a software developer, the envelope can really be pushed. We're no longer building monolithic applications. Things need to be more distributed…That's really where it's at.”“I think we all go through our careers and it's very rare to find an opportunity that's a legit greenfield. Ori represented a huge greenfield for me personally…Working on edge at Facebook really got me bitten by the bug of ‘How do we get the best user performance? How do you really distribute this thing? How do we serve billions and billions of users?’ It's a super interesting challenge. And a greenfield I just didn't feel like I could pass up.”“Building big things that live in clouds and use database-as-a-service and all these other things, that's great. But to actually create a great user experience and do all of the AR and VR things that people have been talking about for a while now, we really need to be embracing things like edge…I think that developers pushing the boundaries of what we can do with this kind of infrastructure is going to be really, really interesting.”“What it's about is driving an ecosystem. It's not about ‘How does Ori build this great closed-source thing and demand people come and spend lots of money with us.’ It's about how do we help these developers build applications which work on edge.” SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Catchpoint. Catchpoint gives critical knowledge to help optimize the digital experience of your customers and employees. Learn more at catchpoint.com and sign up for a free trial.LinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Lee on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview that took place live at the 2020 Edge Computing World Conference between Matt Trifiro and special guest Jonathan Seelig, Co-founder and CEO of Ridge and Co-Founder of Akamai Technologies.As a co-founder of Akamai, Jonathan is one of the true godfathers of edge computing, having enjoyed an extremely impressive two-plus decade career in technology as a founder, investor, and board member. In this interview, Jonathan and Matt discuss the past, present, and future of edge technology, starting with the origins of Akamai at MIT in 1997, through to Jonathan’s latest venture at Ridge, where he is building the distributed cloud platform that will power the next generation of cloud native applications.Key Quotes“One of the things that happened at Akamai is that, because this distributed infrastructure existed for content because the CDN was created, and because you could get scalability, reliability, and performance in ways that you never were going to be able to out of centralized infrastructure…Netflix happened and Hulu happened and online gaming happened.  And even if some of those companies were never my customers, the reason that those capabilities exist in the marketplace is because the CDN was created. It completely changed what entrepreneurs and what content owners believed to be possible.”“One of the things that we were observing in 2018 is that there just didn't seem to be a lot of really good thinking about how to create very highly distributed infrastructure for compute…The argument that we're making at Ridge is that applications that are going to really change the world going forward…are going to care a lot about geography and care a lot about being highly distributed.”“I can't imagine that if we sit down and have a conversation five years from now about the cloud, that three companies will have 100% market share of the industry. We've never seen an infrastructure company become a full monopoly…The idea that we're going to have one infrastructure provider that will be able to do everything that a company needs them to do all over the world in every single location just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.”“Five years from now, I would imagine that ten milliseconds of latency for the vast majority of users in the world is sort of de rigueur…And then we'll talk about how hard it is to get single digit milliseconds of latency and how that's going to be 2025’s edge cloud.”“None of us are going to solve this on our own…for these ideas to work, this is an ecosystem play. One of the things that makes the hyperscale clouds so powerful is the ecosystems that they have developed around their platform…You have to pull together as an ecosystem as opposed to a single vendor. That, to me, is the thing that's going to require the most advancement for this to become more mainstream and more accessible over time.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Zenlayer. Improving user experience doesn't have to be complicated or expensive. Zenlayer helps you lower latency with on-demand edge services in over 150 PoPs around the world. Find out how you can improve your users' experience today at zenlayer.com/edgeLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Jonathan on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Rodney Richter, Enterprise Architect at Hewlett Packard Enterprise and member of the LF Edge Technical Advisory CouncilRodney has been with HPE since 2015, and previously held numerous positions over 19 years with AT&T, including Principal Network Planning Engineer responsible for AT&T Wireless and Wireline access network virtualization.In this interview, Rodney takes us through the technological and logistical challenges of implementing edge solutions at the enterprise level, the thinking that led HPE to develop an entire product line of edge servers, the types of use cases that are getting traction today, and more.Key Quotes"Everybody's looking for ways to optimize their business. As they invest in edge, it’s about what can they do differently and how do they make it more efficient…looking at ways to automate at the edge to be able to do things that they've done before, but haven't done as quickly or as efficiently.""Over the next 18 months, I think we're going to see the evolution of the network edge a lot more. At least in the open source community, a lot of applications and platforms are being developed that are going to help move things forward, especially evolving from some legacy platforms and seeing the data move from the data center out to the edge.""We've been in the edge business for quite a few years now and I see the next 18 months just starting to explode. Customers that are going to either implement [edge solutions] at their customer sites or they're going to be using network edge.""A lot of devices that are generating data typically were analog, now have moved into the digital age. So you now have the need to be able to collect and process that data at the edge…And you do that by developing a whole new product set….so you can run the applications that you typically run in the data center, but now you can run them at the edge.""The edge and the cloud and the data center and the mini clouds, it’s all going to be part of an overall solution. You need to look at the application that's going to be running or set of applications or platforms and what are the requirements for each. Some things will operate in the data center, some will operate in the cloud, and some will be at the edge. You're going to use all of those as a tool set to be able to develop an overall solution."SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Packet, an Equinix company. Packet is the leader in bare metal automation. They are on a mission to protect, connect, and power the digital world with developer-friendly physical infrastructure and a neutral, interconnected ecosystem that spans over 55 global markets.  Learn more at packet.com.LinksConnect with Matt on LinkedIn

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Iain Gillott, founder and president of iGR market strategy consultancy.Iain is a leading wireless and mobile industry analyst, and since 2000, has run iGR, a market strategy consultancy focused on the wireless and mobile communications industry.In this interview, Iain discusses the many challenges and intersections between wireless, mobile, and edge computing, his views on where the telco operators will fit into edge, the role CBRS will play, and much more.Key Quotes"Problem number one is people don't realize how much edge is actually out there. A lot of people think, ‘to do edge computing, I’ve got to wait for 5G. There'll be no edge until there's 5G.’ But some of the very first edge compute was put in with ethernet wired connections…The second problem is that everybody has a different definition of the edge. My definition of the edge is if you take one more step, you fall off a cliff. That’s the easy one.""The perceived value of edge compute in the mobile network is with the cloud vendor, not with the mobile operator, and I think that's a problem. It doesn't mean they're not needed. The mobile operators are needed, but from a mobile operator perspective, their customer is the cloud vendor. It is not the enterprise or the end-user…In this respect, I hate to say it, but they are being pushed into an edge bit-pipe relationship where they're going to rely on the cloud guys to deliver that business to them.""When we've seen things take off in technology, they're one of two things: They're either huge volume, mass market, low cost. Or they're very specific, super high requirements, and expensive. It takes a while to build the middle ground.""The operator will tell you it's the connection that's the value. The application developer says it's the application. The edge compute guy says it’s the servers. But the whole solution is the application, some compute, and connectivity. But the CIO looks at the entire solution. The answer is we need all three.""I think the problem with edge compute is, it's very difficult to pick winners and losers right now. Some operators are going to be successful with their strategy and others will not even be involved. So picking winners and losers is difficult.""I think people who've got a very rigid view of ‘the edge is here, and I'm going to do this and sell it to these people,’ that's a problem. You've got to be much more fluid and say, ‘to this customer, the edge is over there, for this customer, the edge is over here, and for this customer, it's actually completely different.’ You’ve got to be really fluid and flexible, probably like we haven't been before as an industry. And I think this is why the operators will have a problem because they're not flexible."SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Ori Industries. Ori Industries is building the world’s largest edge cloud. Their products power the next generation of intelligent applications through unparalleled access to major communication networks worldwide. Ori is laying the foundations for application developers to seamlessly deploy to uncharted edge computing infrastructure across the globe. Learn more at ori.coLinksigr-inc.comConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow iGR on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Iyad Tarazi, President, CEO, and Co-Founder of Federated WirelessIyad is a technology industry trailblazer with experience in successful commercialization of disruptive cloud native SaaS technologies. Prior to Federated Wireless, he served as Vice President of Network Development and led the Network Vision modernization project at Sprint Corp.In this interview, Iyad discusses CBRS, shared spectrum, and the massive potential for disruption and innovation they represent, as well as the interesting intersections between CBRS and edge computing.Key Quotes“The most thrilling part of CBRS is that it truly is free. It's really democratizing wireless access.”“This is like Airbnb. Don't sell the house, I'll rent the room for you tomorrow. That's basically what we're doing. We make the spectrum available immediately, which is great for economics and great for innovation.”“When we go from a few people building technology on spectrum to thousands and thousands if not millions of deployments, the amount of innovation we’re going to get in the software technology ecosystem is going to go through the roof…Innovation is going to take off. That's democratization in the best way possible."“The U.S. will become the most innovative, by far, in creating solutions and applications and technology for wireless, because they’ll be able to get a thousand enterprises or a thousand companies all innovating at the same time.”“At the end of the day, we're a software company that sits on top of an open ecosystem with a bunch of partners built around a very, very innovative spectrum model that's enabled by a really innovative government. The FCC and the DOD and NTIA and the White House--what they've done here over the last 10+ years in terms of creating this innovation model has really been first in the world.”“All we really do right now is facilitate the management and enable the system. We pass more than 90% of the value of what's happening and what the spectrum offers over to our customers. We're more focused on enabling the ecosystem and enabling our customers than anything else. We're an enablement platform at the end of the day.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Seagate Technology. Seagate’s new CORTX Intelligent Object Storage Software is 100% open source. It enables efficient capture and consolidation of massive, unstructured data sets for the lowest cost per petabyte. Learn more and join the community at seagate.comLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Iyad on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between guest host Ian Faison, the CEO of Caspian Studios, and David Hart, CTO and Co-Founder of NetFoundry.David has over 20 years of experience in the software industry and is an expert in the IoT space, having led successive generations of remote connectivity platforms and played a key role in realizing innovative connected product solutions. In this interview, David discusses how NetFoundry is redefining networking in order to enable innovation, the key role networking plays in digital transformation, the critical moment IoT is undergoing, and why edge solutions need to be an ecosystem play in order to succeed.Key Quotes“When we talk internally as a company, we say we are redefining networking in order to enable edge innovation. And when we say edge innovation, we don't mean edge like edge computing, we mean like innovation around the edges, so innovation where you don't need to ask permission.”“We have a very strong belief at NetFoundry that for us to be successful and for these ideas to be successful, it's an ecosystem play. We need to be out talking to people and working with people in the edge space.”“To me, it's better when you don't talk about IoT…In other words, as it gets to the point where you're not talking about IoT itself, but you're just talking about things that are good ideas and should be done, that’s when we're really getting somewhere.”“Networking is a huge part of any digital transformation or any kind of distributed application. It's a central part of the issue, so we want the network to be application-centric. We want the application developer to control the network and embed the network directly in the app.”“I hope we continue down this democratization path, redefining networking in order to enable edge innovation and getting the world to the point where people who don't necessarily have access to tons of money or the ability to roll out massive, distributed systems, can start getting that in their hands.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is NetFoundry. What do IoT apps, edge compute and edge data centers have in common?  They need simple, secure networking.  Unfortunately, SD-WAN and VPN are square pegs in round holes.  NetFoundry solves the headache, providing software-only, zero trust networking, embeddable in any device or app. Go to NetFoundry.io to learn more.LinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInZiti Developer BlogOpen Ziti on Github

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Stacey Higginbotham, Founder and Editor of Stacey on IoT.Stacey has been covering technology for major publications for almost two decades and now produces a weekly podcast, newsletter, and daily articles covering all aspects of the internet of things under the Stacey on IoT brand. In this interview, Stacey explains the intersection between IoT and edge, how to think about IoT from the bottom-up perspective of the devices and manufacturers, and shares some interesting use cases and innovative companies tackling the most challenging problems in the space.Key Quotes“The idea [of IoT] is that we now have cheap computing, we have cheap sensors, and we can start pulling all this information and synthesizing it in a very cost effective and efficient way. And we can know–not quite everything–but a lot about everything. And it's beautiful.”“IoT makes the invisible, visible. So you can see things that you haven't seen before.”“Think of IoT as the physical infrastructure that ties the internet, combined with the physical infrastructure needed on the things themselves. And then you add AI to it, which is the analysis and the synthesis of the data that's going to be coming in. That's the soul. AI is the soul, IoT is the body, and then you have this wonderful cloud of information that is so transformative.”“I want to make it easy for people to get excited about IoT, because this is really a big deal. It's as big as the invention of broadband or bringing mobile connectivity to everybody. You get all these new applications and we're just scratching the surface, and it's going to be awesome. Unless we utterly screw it up, which we totally are.”“I don't know if we're ever going to get to the ‘cloud version’ of the edge. When you're thinking about computing at the edge, you can't expect the wolves to all behave gracefully. So we have to build more safeguards in, which is going to be less efficient, which the cloud people hate. And the people talking to the cloud people are like, ‘it's really important.’ There's a dichotomy there that I think is under appreciated.”“The cloud thinking is ‘how can we form a monolith, how can we build an application that can run across a bunch of these servers?’ In IoT, I think we're going to come into this realization that what we really need are a bunch of individualized, highly personalized, customized applications. So the opposite of a monolith.”“Right now, especially when we talk about privacy and security, we're having this debate over convenience versus our potential loss of our individual liberties. I don't think many people are thinking of it that way, but they probably should be.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Vapor IO, the leader in edge computing. We want to be your solution partner for the New Internet. Learn more at Vapor.ioLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Stacey on  Twitterstaceyoniot.comThe IoT Podcast

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Mahadev Satyanarayanan, also known as Satya. Satya is the Carnegie Group Professor of Computer Science at Carnegie Mellon University, and one of the true Godfathers of Edge Computing. Over the course of his multi-decade research career, Satya has pioneered many advances in distributed systems, mobile computing, and IoT, and in 2009 he co-authored “The Case for VM-based Cloudlets in Mobile Computing,” the groundbreaking research paper that led to the emergence of Edge.In this interview, Satya shares how he started thinking about distributed computing infrastructure for mobile devices back in 1993, how much of his vision has come true in the decades since, and his views on the future of cloud, edge, IoT, and much more.Key Quotes“In 1997 we said, given that [the compute capability of] mobile devices is always going to be a challenge, how do we get substantial applications that require compute-intensive processing to run on a mobile device? The answer is to offload computation to the infrastructure. We were the first to demonstrate that capability in a published paper."“When it comes to user experience, people have learned that it's not the mean that matters, it is the tail. Human user experience is greatly overweighted by a few negative experiences. You may have one hour on a zoom call, and 58 minutes of it may be excellent, but you will remember the two minutes that were miserable. This is generally true for augmented reality, and for all of these other [latency-sensitive] use cases.”“It's useless to deploy 5G without edge computing. The truth is 5G is only going to improve your last mile quality. That's it.”“How much end-to-end latency is acceptable is very much a function of the application. But it's a two-way street. The applications that get written depend on what today's technology can offer…If the application's demand gets too far ahead of what the technology can offer, then the application will die because it's not viable.”“The ultimate beneficiaries of edge computing should make strategic investments that incentivize the creation of edge-native applications, and apply a different success criteria from what is traditionally applied by venture capitalists...That investment is valuable even without a hockey stick growth curve, because you are creating long term demand for the core product that you're creating, which is edge computing itself.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Catchpoint. Catchpoint gives critical knowledge to help optimize the digital experience of your customers and employees. Learn more at catchpoint.com and sign up for a free trial.LinksOpen Edge Computing InitiativeConnect with Matt on LinkedInSatya's Home Page

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Simon Crosby, CTO of SWIM.AI.Simon’s impressive resume spans two decades in technology and includes highlights such as co-founder and CTO at XenSource, co-founder and CTO at Bromium, and CTO of Data Center and Cloud at Citrix. In this interview, Simon discusses how SWIM is solving the problem of stateless computing with its edge intelligence software that focuses on edge-based learning for fast-data and continuous intelligence. Key Quotes“We’re moving from a world of big data, where you could reasonably store it all and then think about later, to one where data flows are boundless and you need to process it on the fly. You need to continuously process and analyze streaming data to get continuous intelligence to make your organization more responsible. But the big change is that, whereas before you could reasonably think about big data as a way to store stuff and then analyze it, now you can't.”“The cloud has been tremendously successful really because of two big things. One is rest, which is stateless computing, and the other one is databases…But the problem with that is that stateless computing is a million times slower than the CPU. A million times slower. That means the difference between hours versus milliseconds in terms of getting results."“In this era, we have data flows which are boundless. They never stop. And the data within them is of ephemeral value. So you can't store it and get to it later because later it’s useless. What you care about is that some representation can predict what's going to happen next, but you don't care about the past. So we have ephemeral data value and infinite data, and you need to compute on it continuously…and that's a whole new approach, algorithmically and mathematically.”“We shouldn't apply AI to situations where the marginal cost of being wrong is high…if the cost of being wrong is very high, like somebody dies, just don't do it. But if the cost of being wrong is marginal who cares? Like my Uber may stop at a red light, who cares? Right? We're still better off…There are tons of opportunities for making the world better, where if you're wrong, you don't make it worse.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Ori Industries. Ori Industries is building the world’s largest edge cloud. Their products power the next generation of intelligent applications through unparalleled access to major communication networks worldwide. Ori is laying the foundations for application developers to seamlessly deploy to uncharted edge computing infrastructure across the globe. Learn more at ori.coLinkswww.swimos.orgConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Simon on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Mahdi Yahya, CEO & Founder of Ori Industries.Mahdi is an entrepreneur, investor, and former telecommunications executive who spent over 10 years building networks in data centers across the globe. In this interview, Mahdi articulates his ambitious vision for bringing cloud-native technology to the edge and building a new kind of cloud with the ability to power and scale the new internet.Key QuotesWe're on the eve of a new internet… A smart internet that will power hospitals, cities, factories that are becoming increasingly intelligent and autonomous even today. And this internet requires a new cloud to power it, one that will be able to deliver it at scale. At Ori, we are building the new cloud that will allow us to power and scale this new internet.”“If you are familiar with the telecom world, you know that there is a very real opportunity right now, and my focus is to seize that opportunity. We are working with the telecoms industry because we know it, I've worked with them for a very long time. I've worked with them from the outside in wholesale, and now in federation, and all these things that we can apply to edge computing. I'm applying my previous knowledge of that space and it's working, we're gaining a lot of traction.”“I think the value today is securing the developers because building an edge native developer community is a big thing. We're all working towards that in the end, because that's how we secure the demand for the market, and the moment we capitalize on that demand, then we can scale the market.”“For edge to work well, especially in the telecom space, you need a lot of infrastructure changes in place, and 5G is driving those changes. This is where I see the value of 5G for edge: it accelerated a lot of these changes on the legacy networks, and allows us to start running workloads exactly where we need them to run on the network in an efficient, distributed, and clever way.”“I think soon the biggest trend in edge is going to be intelligence. How do you make these platforms more intelligent? Because in public clouds today, yes they are building a lot of products that are increasingly distributed, but when you look at this distributed infrastructure over a vast geography, the game is different.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Zenlayer. Improving user experience doesn't have to be complicated or expensive. Zenlayer helps you lower latency with on-demand edge services in over 150 PoPs around the world. Find out how you can improve your users' experience today at zenlayer.com/edgeLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Mahdi on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Sarah Beaudoin, Head of Customer Advocacy and Early Stage Marketing at ZEDEDA. As an early-stage marketer at ZEDEDA, Sarah is tackling the problems of creating awareness and adoption in a burgeoning industry.In this interview, Sarah discusses her approach to solving those problems, as well as the present and future use cases and challenges of IoT deployment at the edge.Key Quotes“In terms of edge and where we are today, there are a lot of unknowns. There's no prescription for ‘here's how you need to be successful at the edge’…But what we do know is that there are certain principles, like building it on an open architecture so you've got the flexibility to be able to work with whatever hardware and applications and cloud you need to work with.”“When it comes to early-stage marketing, what we're doing is a lot of education across the board in terms of what is possible. It's about sharing examples of what customers are doing successfully, and sharing what people are trying to do– being a conduit so people can understand what else is out there.”“From an early stage marketing perspective, it's very much about helping you understand what's possible. Here are the things you need to think about that are going to help you, not just today, but that can help you make sure that whatever you're putting in place today is going to expand to what you needed two years.”“One thing that we're seeing across the board at the edge is that no single company is going to just own this space. This is an ecosystem of players that are going to work together to build solutions.”“Latency always comes up as the number one reason why people think we need edge computing…But latency is not the number one issue for any of our customers. They're doing it because of bandwidth. They're doing it because they have too much data to send all of it to the cloud. It's too expensive. It takes too long. They need to deal with that data at the edge.”“The edge has to be open…we believe very strongly in the power of open source and the fact that the edge–because it is so diverse in use cases and applications and hardware–it has to have an open foundation.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Packet, an Equinix company. Packet is the leader in bare metal automation. They are on a mission to protect, connect, and power the digital world with developer-friendly physical infrastructure and a neutral, interconnected ecosystem that spans over 55 global markets.  Learn more at packet.com.LinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Sarah on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between guest host Jacob Smith, VP of Bare Metal Strategy and Marketing at Equinix, and Cole Crawford, CEO and Founder of Vapor IO.Cole is also the co-founder of the Open 19 Foundation, founding Executive Director of the Open Compute Project, former Chairman of the Open Data Center Alliance, and co-founder of OpenStack.In this interview, Cole lays out his vision for creating the world’s first intelligent, hyper-modular data center solution, and how Vapor is fixing the fundamental architectural problems of the internet.Key Quotes“The internet is still fundamentally broken today if you want to solve for autonomous robotics or autonomous driving or the future state of remote surgery…I think there are ways in which we can enhance the internet that we've built and make it better.”“If you look back through every successful company, every big dot com, every big Silicon Valley startup, one of the things that they did really well—what ends up being the killer app for everything is economics and the easy button. If you can make it faster, better, cheaper, and you make it easy to consume, you're going to do well. That’s the mission that Vapor is on– to fix the architectural issues with the guts of the internet.”“I think there are three things [that open hardware does]: lower the technical barrier of entry on the technical front, you increase the pace of innovation, and you democratize or commoditize those things that really have no value.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Vapor IO, the leader in edge computing. We want to be your solution partner for the New Internet. Learn more at Vapor.ioLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Cole on  Twitter 

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Alex Reznik, Distinguished Technologist at Hewlett Packard Enterprise, and Chair of ETSI’s MEC ISG.Alex literally wrote the book on Multi-Access Edge Computing, and as Chair of ETSI MEC he is helping to pioneer the industry standards for enabling the Intelligent Edge.In this interview, Alex explains the role of standards bodies like ETSI, how standards drive market adoption, and why they are important for the future of the edge intersection between telcos, cloud providers, and developers.Key Quotes“In the final state of this MEC public edge computing game, there [will be] a presence from most of the major cloud providers in most of the operator networks.”“If telcos are going to succeed in capturing value, they will have standards in a space where ETSI MEC plays. It doesn't mean they have to adopt ETSI MEC standards, but they will have to agree on a set of standards in that space. Our value is, we're the only standard right now that plays in that space. So you can either go and form a new group and start from scratch, or you can go with ETSI MEC.”“With 5G, specifically because so many of the 5G applications need the edge, and edge means location, [the telcos] have leverage. Amazon and Microsoft and lots of other people have to talk directly to the telcos. That's real leverage. Now what are they going to do with it?”“Show the operators the money. They want to see the money. They don't want to see a strategy talk about how much money the hyperscalers are making on the cloud and what portion of that market they can address and what the TAM for edge computing is...they want to see the money in six months.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Seagate Technology. Seagate’s new CORTX Intelligent Object Storage Software is 100% open source. It enables efficient capture and consolidation of massive, unstructured data sets for the lowest cost per petabyte. Learn more and join the community at seagate.comLinksAlex's book, "Multi-Access Edge Computing In Action"ETSI MEC ISGCLICK HERE to Register for the Edge Computing World Conference, October 12-15th, 2020. Fully virtual. Use the promo code OVERTHEEDGE for 30% off the Edge Executive ConferenceConnect with Matt on LinkedIn

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Colby Synesael, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Cowen and CompanyColby has been covering the communications infrastructure and telecom services industries as a senior research analyst since 2006, and recently co-authored Cowen’s extensive Ahead of the Curve report on edge computing and the future of the internet. In this interview, Colby offers his unique perspective on the investment decisions that are powering the growth of edge infrastructure, the elements that will enable True 5G, and how the pieces work together to usher in the fourth industrial revolution.Key Quotes“While edge computing is not dependent on 5G, 5G is dependent on edge computing…The edge infrastructure that is obviously tied to edge computing is going to be required to enable what we refer to as ‘True 5G.’” “When you take all three of those aspects--the bandwidth speed that’s north of a hundred megabits, the latency that’s sub-10 milliseconds, and the massive machine connectivity or IOT—that, combined, is the recipe to enable True 5G.”“The beauty of True 5G is it's going to enable a lot of new businesses to leverage a wireless network beyond the phone that's never really happened before…And when we talk about True 5G, that's really what we're referring to, and to make that happen, absolutely a physical edge infrastructure is going to have to be out there.”“With these three key attributes–the speed, the latency, and that massive connectivity–ultimately it enables what many people refer to as the fourth industrial revolution. And that's going to create a whole new set of market opportunities that are going to happen across just about every industry.”“When you think about the internet in its current iteration, it's really been built for humans…This next iteration of the internet–which very much is tied to edge computing and 5G– is actually going to be built more for machines…It’s going to unleash this huge opportunity, and that altogether is what we refer to as the fourth industrial revolution.”“The way I think about it [edge] is that it's not an explicit definition. It's not black and white. It's an evolution. It's a concept. And we're already starting to see that happening today. And at some point…we're going to see an inflection point where there finally is enough infrastructure that you start to see some of these newer use cases start to come to market.”  “I don't think of the edge as cannibalizing the cloud. I think of the edge as expanding the TAM–the total addressable market–for the cloud...You're not cannibalizing the demand, you're augmenting it.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Ori Industries. Ori Industries is building the world’s largest edge cloud. Their products power the next generation of intelligent applications through unparalleled access to major communication networks worldwide. Ori is laying the foundations for application developers to seamlessly deploy to uncharted edge computing infrastructure across the globe. Learn more at ori.coLinksCLICK HERE to Register for the Edge Computing World Conference, October 12-15th, 2020. Fully virtual. Use the promo code OVERTHEEDGE for 30% off the Edge Executive ConferenceConnect with Matt on LinkedIn

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Victor Bahl, Technical Fellow and Director of Mobility & Networking at Microsoft Research, and one of the fathers of Edge Computing. Across a 23-year career at Microsoft Research, Victor has helped shape Microsoft’s long-term strategy through research, industry partnerships, and associated policy engagement with governments and research institutions around the world. His seminal 2009 paper titled “The Case for VM-based Cloudlets in Mobile Computing” spawned the vision for what we now call Edge. In this interview, Victor shares the story behind the genesis of that paper, and his experience of the evolution of edge in the years since.Key Quotes“You can start to see a convergence of sorts between the communication and computing industry, and edge is the catalyst for that…Some sort of convergence is going to happen and it's going to be good because we are using each other's strengths and building on top of it rather than spending time doing the same thing.”"The question for me as a researcher and a person who tries to think many years ahead was “what happens after cloud?”“If you think about what the cloud is, the cloud effectively sells you compute and storage…and [we thought] wouldn't it be cool if the cloud not only sold storage, it not only sold compute, but it also sold latency...wouldn't it be cool to have an edge where the latency was small.”“The internet works on a protocol called BGP,  and that protocol has not been optimized for latency sensitivity. It has been optimized for cost sensitivity. So as the packets are routed, they are not routed with latency in mind. That’s why you end up seeing all these problems and jitter, which is a killer for many things.”“If you actually create software, you can think of a network operating system. And then you can think of an API that you put on top of that. And then on top of that, you've got all these applications and then developers can party. So you're looking at a brand new ecosystem that is now seeded because of edge computing.”“The way I like to think about it is “Wow, We're getting there! We've gotten there!” Because now when I talk to people, it’s no longer about trying to convince anybody of the need for edge. It seems like people get it…I no longer have to make the case for it. The thing that most people are looking at now is how to monetize the edge–how to actually light these things up.”“I think that you can start thinking about edge as part of cloud even now. Because Microsoft is invested, we are building it out. We are building out the infrastructure. We are going to make it available. It's going to be there.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Seagate Technology. Seagate’s new CORTX Intelligent Object Storage Software is 100% open source. It enables efficient capture and consolidation of massive, unstructured data sets for the lowest cost per petabyte. Learn more and join the community at seagate.comLinksCLICK HERE to Register for the Edge Computing World Conference, October 12-15th, 2020. Fully virtual. Use the promo code OVERTHEEDGE for 30% off the Edge Executive ConferenceConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Victor on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Gavin Whitechurch, Co-Founder of Edge Computing World and COO & Co-Founder of Topio NetworksGavin is a technology analyst, media executive & entrepreneur who started Topio Networks and the Edge Computing World Conference to serve as industry catalysts, helping to nurture the industry and accelerate the markets for Edge Computing, IoT, mobility, and moreIn this interview, Gavin uses his overarching perspective on the Edge landscape to give insights about where the industry is headed and how the market for Edge solutions is evolving.Key Quotes"I see this increasing maturity in the market and increasing understanding of what edge computing offers. Particularly in the last year, there's much greater awareness in the technology market of why edge computing is important and what uniquely it offers to developers and to technology companies." -Gavin"I think we’re going to see much more of a distributed compute model–the market will move to a more distributed compute architecture, and it'll get more and more distributed over the next two decades. I would say it's probably actually going to take two decades for that whole thing to play out. I think where we are now is like the early stages of mobile." -Gavin"IoT is much further up its maturity curve. It was one of those things that perhaps suffered from its own hype…but we're now getting to the large-scale deployments. We've run surveys that show that 2021 will probably be a massive year of adoption for widespread IoT." -Gavin"I think there is a huge appetite for what edge computing can do…I think we have a more realistic view of things as a technology industry now, and I think that some of the things that are happening around us are actually going to ensure that there is an earlier deployment of those systems." -Gavin"We’ve spoken to a lot of companies that have said that automation is being accelerated. There's a reprioritization in boardrooms and a realization that…Covid is in many ways accelerating digital transformation and automation." -Gavin"I think this pandemic may significantly accelerate the deployment of edge computing because of that shift in capital expense, spending by the companies who will benefit from that automation" -Matt "I can't think of an industry that's this big that has had so much cohesion and acceleration around open source code. There’s this collective mechanism that didn't exist when the cloud was first being formed. There has been so much clear agreement and cohesion on the core supporting technologies that need to be developed and adopted in order for us all to have a platform." -MattSponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Catchpoint. Catchpoint gives critical knowledge to help optimize the digital experience of your customers and employees. Learn more at catchpoint.com and sign up for a free trial.LinksCLICK HERE to Register for the Edge Computing World Conference, October 12-15th, 2020. Fully virtual. Use the promo code OVERTHEEDGE for 30% off the Edge Executive ConferenceConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Gavin on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Mark Thiele, CEO & Founder of EdgevanaFollowing a 30-year career in IT and a post as the executive director of edge cloud at Ericsson’s Edge Gravity unit, Mark founded Edgevana last year with the goal of disrupting the existing processes for selling and buying co-location, edge, and data center services.In this interview, Mark discusses his mission of lowering barriers-to-entry to deploy capability at the edge, the economics of shared infrastructure, and why he says the opportunity associated with the edge could be bigger than the cloud.Key  Quotes“More and more people see the edge as a way to foster engagement with their customers, but also as a way to solve for business problems that people just assumed for years were intractable.”“Cloud is going to continue to grow...but the edge eventually will be like a combination of enterprise workspace and the iPhone or Android store for applications. And the potential permutations of application and application types that could exist in that kind of future are just way beyond the million-plus apps that you would find in one of the phone stores.”“I think cloud will play a bigger and bigger part going forward, but it's not because it'll take away from edge.”“We're entering a world that edge computing is going to open up that I don't think we've ever seen before.”“There is no way that the infrastructure we currently have at the edge will be enough to accommodate the kind of growth we'll see three to four years from now.”“The opportunity associated with companies like Vapor IO and Edgevana is how do we actually get more value out of pre-existing footprint, beyond just the capacity of the existing white space floor.”“I think one of the biggest areas of opportunity is...our ability to recreate life in all of its new forms, not just the remote office, but distributed entertainment in the vehicle, on the road, in the park, at home, whatever the case may be– because once people taste better, there is no going back. I think that that's likely the area where we'll see the most growth and change over the next 18 months.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Zenlayer. Improving user experience doesn't have to be complicated or expensive. Zenlayer helps you lower latency with on-demand edge services in over 150 PoPs around the world. Find out how you can improve your users' experience today at zenlayer.com/edgeLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Mark on TwitterConnect with Mark on LinkedIn

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Chetan Venkatesh, CEO & Co-founder of Macrometa.Macrometa is "Geo Distributed Fast Data As A Service"​ for cross-region, multi-cloud, and edge computing apps.In this interview, Chetan discusses his approach to solving the fundamental problems developers face with cloud-native apps, and how the edge represents a new paradigm for how applications and services are going to be built going forward.Key Quotes“While the cloud is great, there's just a whole class of new things that people want to be able to do that the cloud is fundamentally not a sound platform for, [especially] If you really want to deal with things that are time-sensitive.”“The biggest limitation of our current computing model is that we can only do computing in two places. We can either do it on the device or we can do it in the data center. And there's a vast middle mile between these two places that really doesn't do strategic stuff. It doesn't do anything useful or interesting other than shuffling bits from one place to another. We think that's a really interesting place to bring not just computing, but stateful computing, because the state part of this computing problem is very, very important.”“One of the hidden parts of the edge that nobody really talks about is if you want multicloud, the edge is the place to do it because none of the cloud providers actually have any interest in multicloud. But the edge provides a really interesting place for us to abstract and arbitrate workloads across any cloud provider based on location, latency and regulatory requirements that the customer has for their applications.”“There are three different parts (of this industry) that are rapidly maturing in parallel, and it's all converging towards some sort of a singularity that's going to create an explosion of value. The first part is capital–capital is getting much smarter about this problem and why it matters...The second part is customers are getting smarter...The third part is the ugly secret about the cloud: it's easy to get in, but it's really hard to get out, and if you haven't built an application with scalability in mind (things like) sloppy coding really cost you a lot of money in the cloud.”“The telecom operators really need to supersize their thinking. A lot of them are very much still in a deer-in-the-headlights phase…The place where they're trying to intercept the market has already passed by four years back. If you're not thinking serverless, if you're not thinking developer experience as a telecom operator, I think your big-time screwed.”“Deploying code is deploying capital. It really is in the cloud world. I think that's actually an emerging area for VCs to look at: analyzing code to figure out what does it cost to run at scale.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Packet, an Equinix company. Packet is the leader in bare metal automation. They are on a mission to protect, connect, and power the digital world with developer-friendly physical infrastructure and a neutral, interconnected ecosystem that spans over 55 global markets.  Learn more at packet.com.LinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Chetan on Twitter 

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Jason Shepherd, VP of Ecosystem at ZEDEDA, an edge virtualization company offering solutions for IoT Edge orchestration. Jason left his role as CTO of IoT and Edge Computing at Dell Technologies last year to join ZEDEDA, with the stated goal of bringing IoT out of its “AOL stage.”In this interview, Jason discusses the significance of open source collaboration and interconnected ecosystems in scaling IoT and edge adoption.Key Quotes“Open source is the new way to drive standards and standards drive scale. If you don't have some sort of open source model going forward, it's going to be difficult, because ultimately it’s about scaling interconnected ecosystems, and that does not work without open.”“It's about ecosystems. What you want is an ecosystem of lots of participants that all have a shared interest in building a platform upon which they can differentiate. So build one or join one, but either way be a part of one or you're going to struggle going forward.”“Open source in general has just become the modern way to drive standards. Collaboration and open source– that shared technology investment– it minimizes undifferentiated heavy lifting. Stop doing that and start focusing on value. And it helps you create a snowball effect for standardization. What open source is creating is de facto standards. If you get enough people using something, it becomes a de facto standard. It's just a new way of driving that network effect for standardization“The next domino that you have to solve is trust. You've got to figure out a way to scale trust over heterogeneous networks or none of this stuff will ever work. It’s about building trust at scale, and using technology to help you.” “Open source is the new way to drive standards and standards drive scale. Do you think Google didn't make money off Android and all the ad revenue that that ecosystem drove?”“You'll never scale to the grail if you don't take an open path. Even if right now it's about solving  simple problems and creating some value, you'll never get to the ultimate goal of entirely new business transformation across many markets if you don’t have an open base.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Ori Industries. Ori Industries is building the world’s largest edge cloud. Their products power the next generation of intelligent applications through unparalleled access to major communication networks worldwide. Ori is laying the foundations for application developers to seamlessly deploy to uncharted edge computing infrastructure across the globe. Learn more at ori.coLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Jason on TwitterLF Edge taxonomy white paperProject EVE at LF EdgeEVE in the MarketProject Alvarium

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Dean Bubley, Founder and Director of Disruptive AnalysisDean is an independent technology industry analyst, futurist, speaker and consultant with over 25 years of experience.In this interview, Dean gives us his unfiltered views on Edge, IoT, 5G, their intersection with the telecoms industry, and why the future is going to be a lot messier than you think.Key Quotes“Everything is going to be a messy hybrid; deeply inelegant and based on sort of midterm pragmatism, messed up by acquisitions, with awkwardness around local authorities and this real mess of overlapping jurisdictions and property rights and incumbency. It's going to be messy.”“My main perspective is that latency is perhaps not the be all and end all we thought it was initially. And that actually it’s things like data sovereignty, security and control by enterprise, and this idea of interconnection is more important than people thought it was a few years ago.”“One thing I often have a conversation with people about on edge is trying to calibrate where they are on the scale. I often say that edge has maybe nine orders of magnitude. I've spoken to people who think of edge as a megawatt data center in a tier three city. Down to other people who think it's a milliwatt processor on a chip, on a sensor. And so I'm like, right, you've got nine orders of magnitude, all of which people think that's the edge.”“A lot of my clients are in telecoms and I think they will end up being both sellers and buyers of edge compute. The telecoms industry has to wake up this idea that actually there’s a marketplace, and sometimes it makes sense to be on the buying side and sometimes it makes sense to be on the selling side.”“As much as all telcos chest thump about how they're all building out their 5G networks, it's incredibly expensive and the CFO's office often has a very different opinion than the marketing team's office. What I see as a really big opportunity is shared infrastructure because the economics is so compelling.”“The assumption in the mobile industry is that the edge goes in the network. I actually think that possibly the network goes in the edge, and actually what you might find is these localized data centers that have chunks of each of many different network operators infrastructure in a neutral colo. And so it almost turns the paradigm around.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is NetFoundry. What do IoT apps, edge compute and edge data centers have in common?  They need simple, secure networking.  Unfortunately, SD-WAN and VPN are square pegs in round holes.  NetFoundry solves the headache, providing software-only, zero trust networking, embeddable in any device or app. Go to NetFoundry.io to learn more.LinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Dean on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Malini Bhandaru, who leads open source IoT and Edge efforts at VMware.Malini has a Ph.D. in Machine Learning from the University of Massachusetts, and prior to joining VMware, worked on big data for autonomous driving and OpenStack for cloud infrastructure management at Intel. In this interview, Malini discusses her work in The Open Source Technology Center at VMware, the valuable role that open source plays in IoT and Edge, and interesting use cases for how Edge is solving macro problems.Key Quotes"That's the beautiful thing [about Edge] -- it's everything. It just combines everything, whether it's security, cryptography, blockchain, machine learning, or collecting sensor data that comes across to you from different protocols-- it's just everything."“By making these open source projects and a lot of the infrastructure available, you're opening the flood gates to many more adopters and many more applications and solutions coming to market sooner. ““The IoT edge market's going to grow to a trillion dollars. VMware is keeping its eye on the future when there's going to be more edge adoption and larger edges.”“The telco edge is going to be pretty beefy and it will enable applications like virtual reality and augmented reality and connected cars. Some edges are going to be very, very beefy edges with a lot of compute, a lot of knowledge, a lot of storage at that edge.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Vapor IO, the leader in edge computing. We want to be your solution partner for the New Internet. Learn more at Vapor.ioLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInMalini's Blog at VMwareEdgeX Foundry

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Mehdi Daoudi, Co-founder and CEO of Catchpoint.Mehdi’s experience in IT leadership at Google and DoubleClick inspired him to build the digital experience platform he envisioned as a user, and Catchpoint has been at the forefront of digital experience monitoring since it’s launch in 2008.In this interview, Mehdi discusses Catchpoint’s cutting-edge approach to monitoring, the user demands that will drive innovation in the third act of the internet,  how the current pandemic will serve as a massive digital accelerator, and much more.Key Quotes“Our mission is that we want to monitor as many things from as many locations as possible...and monitoring needs to be part of business strategy, not monitoring for the sake of monitoring.”“It doesn’t matter what you monitor as long as you monitor it from the right location. So it's very important to monitor things from where the end users are. That's what we focus on at Catchpoint is outcome-based monitoring.”“We focus on four key criteria. Our technology allows you to look at reachability-- can I get to you? If I can get to you, are you up or down? If you're up, how fast or slow are you? And then how reliable are you? And reliability is extremely important. Reliability means are you able to deliver the same quality of service 24/7?”“Having a single CDN vendor is no longer an option...I’m surprised by how fast that movement has taken off-- before it was reserved for a few large, super sophisticated companies...but today literally everybody I talk to is doing multi-CDN, multi-cloud.”“I think this pandemic has shown the need for better data, better network connectivity, better end-user experiences. It is a digital accelerator that no industry has ever seen. It’s a kick in the butt for all of us to innovate, bring solutions, and deliver on this challenge.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Catchpoint. Catchpoint gives critical knowledge to help optimize the digital experience of your customers and employees. Learn more at catchpoint.com and sign up for a free trial.LinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Mehdi on Twitter  

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Joe Zhu, Founder and CEO of Zenlayer.Joe founded Zenlayer in 2014 after 8 years of managing global business for ChinaCache, China’s largest CDN provider.In this interview, Joe discusses Zenlayer’s evolution from edge data center provider to the goal of becoming the world’s #1 edge cloud provider, as well as Zenlayer’s focus on being a truly global company and its unique capability and passion for serving emerging markets.Key Quotes“It’s always been my ambition to become a global company, because my passion is to improve the global user experience, not just individual regions.”“Our choice is to go to emerging markets, so-called underserved markets like India, Indonesia, Vietnam, Russia, Brazil, where the infrastructure is not as good as in what we call mature markets like the U.S., Europe, Japan, Korea. But the user base is huge and their mobile users have dramatically increased year over year, and they have a bigger population as well as a GDP increase.”“Even though our strategy is to go to the emerging markets first, our customers need global coverage. Because the experience is not just for one location. It's going to be for global users.”“Obviously we don't know what's the next killer app yet. There will be a new killer app coming online. Is it a different type of e-commerce or different type of social application or different kind of a live streaming? Just imagine in the future, for example, you and I sitting in the same room, like a projection. But that requires a lot of bandwidth.”SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Zenlayer. Improving user experience doesn't have to be complicated or expensive. Zenlayer helps you lower latency with on-demand edge services in over 150 PoPs around the world. Find out how you can improve your users' experience today at zenlayer.com/edgeLinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInFollow Zenlayer on Twitter

Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Jacob Smith. Jacob is a co-founder at Packet and currently serves as Vice President of bare metal strategy and marketing. Jacob co-founded Packet in 2014 with the goal of democratizing hyperscale infrastructure capabilities. Since then Packet has been one of the early leaders in edge computing for business, and earlier this year was acquired by Equinix.In this interview, Jacob discusses the founding of Packet and the vision for bringing the world of software into the world of physical networks, cloud infrastructure as a craft, what he sees as the next stages of edge computing, and much more.Key Quotes“We're inviting more people in, and especially with the edge, it's a huge opportunity to bring the world of software into the world of physical networks that currently power the internet.”“The idea of the buyer being different, software getting way big, infrastructure getting more specialized-- this all led us to think, ‘How do we get out of the way? How do we focus on delivery model? How do we focus on fundamental things?’ And that's really what we set out to do. That's what led us to the edge.”“I'll bet on software anytime. I think that properly served up access, innovation will occur. There are a lot of innovation-minded people touching internet infrastructure.”“Instead of guessing the use cases, I think it's better to look at how to be more open. Look at what the clouds have done super well-- they've created ecosystems. I think we can create the same mindset-- this diverse, totally Wild West, weird, special world called the edge.”LinksConnect with Matt on LinkedInConnect with Jacob on LinkedIn SponsorsOver the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Packet, an Equinix company. Packet is the leader in bare metal automation. They are on a mission to protect, connect, and power the digital world with developer-friendly physical infrastructure and a neutral, interconnected ecosystem that spans over 55 global markets.  Learn more at packet.com.