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Each week our tricked-out team of tech investors and former operators breakdown the biggest headlines and themes in both public and private markets, with a specific focus on how AI is changing the tech landscape. We will be joined by some of the most influential voices in tech, media, and crypto leaving listeners with fresh perspectives on increasingly complicated topics impacting their lives and investment portfolios.
Okay, Computer. Podcast is hosted by Dan Nathan, with regular contributors Deirdre Bosa, Rick Heitzmann, Katie Stanton, and Jeff Richards. RiskReversal's resident luddite, Guy Adami stops in occasionally for Okay, Boomer segments.
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Tech’s Laisez-Faire Era + Nvidia Earnings Preview with Gene Munster
Dan Nathan and Deepwater's Gene Munster discuss how the tech world digests potential regulatory shifts post-election. The guys also dive into potential for autonomous vehicle advancements, trade tariffs, and their impact on tech giants like Apple and Tesla. They delve into the possible regulatory environment changes under the Trump administration and its implications for AI and big tech M&A, wrapping up with expectations for Nvidia's upcoming earnings and the broader impact on AI demand.
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32:2019/11/2024
Zeta Global CEO David A. Steinberg Responds To Short-Seller Report
Dan Nathan welcomes Zeta Global CEO David A. Steinberg to discuss a recent short-seller report by Culper Research.
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16:0414/11/2024
Tech Investing 101: Insights From Imran Khan's Prolific Career
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami provide an update on the past week in tech as investors digest what the regulatory environment will look like under a second Trump administration. From the rotation into software to Chinese internet names, the duo breaks it all down.
Dan then welcomes Imran Khan (12:00), founder and CEO of Proem Asset Management, to discuss his distinguished career in finance, starting as an equity research analyst and moving through investment banking to fund management. Khan shares his experiences and lessons learned from leading significant tech deals, including Snap's pre-IPO phase and the Alibaba IPO. The conversation also delves into the evolution of market strategies, the current state of tech investments, AI opportunities, and the risks associated with the private market investments. Khan provides insights into his unique investment process, emphasizing risk management, long-term vision, and the importance of not falling in love with stocks. Additionally, the episode touches on the Dallas Leadership Summit, an event Khan organizes to reconnect and engage with his diverse network of industry professionals.
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59:0213/11/2024
Morning After: Implications For Tech & Markets
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss the market's response following Donald Trump's victory in the 2024 presidential election. They explore upward volatility in major indices like the S&P 500 and NASDAQ, the rise in 10-year U.S. Treasury yields, and record highs in Bitcoin. The discussion also covers anticipated moves by the Federal Reserve, shifts in small-cap stocks, regional banks, and potential regulatory changes under the new administration. They delve into how market dynamics might affect various sectors including tech, with a focus on Tesla, mega-cap tech, and the geopolitical implications for semiconductor companies like Taiwan Semi and NVIDIA. Both hosts consider the impact of possible policy adjustments on the stock market and foreign policy issues involving China and Taiwan. Additionally, they touch on prospective M&A activities, the IPO market, particularly in crypto, and the strategic moves by major investment banks.
Further Reading
Perplexity Nears $9 Billion Valuation in Investment Led by IVP (The Information)
Goldman, JPMorgan Eye Crypto Clients as IPO Prospects Brighten (The Information)
President Trump, Take Two; Big Tech, Little Tech, Chips, and Hardware; Elon Musk’s Triumph (Stratechery)
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34:4706/11/2024
TechCheck with Guy Adami & a Conversation with Scott Wapner
Guy Adami joins for a special pod to discuss developments surrounding semiconductor companies, particularly NVIDIA and AMD, and their impact on market dynamics. They investigate AMD's recent performance and guidance within the context of the growing AI ecosystem and competition with NVIDIA. The episode also covers the volatile stock movements of Super Micro, Dell, and CDWC, examining factors such as market cap trends and competitive pressures. Shifting focus, they analyze Google and Meta's strategic integration of AI to boost ad revenues and market positioning, emphasizing Google's recent positive earnings report. The episode wraps up with insights into the fluctuating fortunes of Snap and the ascent of Reddit in the digital advertising space.
Dan Nathan is joined by CNBC’s Scott Wapner, known for hosting ‘Halftime Report’ and ‘Closing Bell.’ They reminisce about Scott's career journey, from his pre-CNBC days to hosting prominent shows, discussing the market dynamics over the years, especially in the backdrop of the financial crisis. Wapner also delves into his sports memorabilia collection, his interactions with sports figures, and evolving market commentary. Highlights include the critical role of financial crises in shaping market perspectives, responsibility in stock recommendations, and the nuances of hosting market-focused shows. The conversation shifts to sports, discussing MLB's Dodgers-Yankees rivalry and the rising valuations of sports teams, touching on the impact of private equity in the sports market.
Checkout Scott's Book 'When the Wolves Bite'
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01:05:1530/10/2024
MegaCap Tech Vibe Check with Deirdre Bosa & Brad Erickson
Dan Nathan hosts Deirdre Bosa delve into earnings projections for Alphabet, AMD, PayPal, Microsoft, Meta, Apple, Amazon, and Uber. The conversation explores the broader market trends, including the resilience of the S&P and Nasdaq, and the influence of macroeconomic factors like treasury yields. They discuss the regulatory challenges facing tech giants like Google and their impact on AI innovation. The episode also touches on Meta's AI Ray-Bans, Snap's spectacles, and the strategic AI investments of Microsoft and OpenAI. The upcoming presidential election's implications for big tech, especially regarding regulatory changes under different administrations, are examined. The dialogue provides valuable insights into how market leaders are navigating the evolving tech landscape amid significant economic and political changes.
Dan Nathan and Brad Erickson, Internet Equity Analyst at RBC Capital Markets, discuss the upcoming earnings reports from major tech companies like Google, Meta, and Amazon. They delve into the challenges and opportunities these companies face, particularly in areas such as AI, search, ad revenue, and cloud computing. They also touch on the impact of DOJ cases and innovative products on investor sentiment and stock performance.
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01:17:3129/10/2024
Do Optimus Dream of Electric Taxis? with Gene Munster
Dan Nathan and Gene Munster dive into Tesla's robotaxi event and the impact of unmet investor expectations on stock performance, alongside concerns about delivery targets and competition from Chinese EVs. The guys also discuss Google and Meta's integration of generative AI, shaping search results and user growth. The conversation wraps with a discussion of Apple's upcoming feature updates and their potential stock market impact.
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37:2416/10/2024
Taking Stock of Waning GenAI Euphoria with Current CTO Trevor Marshall
Dan Nathan is joined by Trevor Marshall, CTO and co-founder of Current, to explore the landscape of tech giants like Microsoft, Apple, Google, and Meta in the realm of AI development and market strategies. The discussion touches on Apple's upcoming iOS 18, Microsoft's AI complexities and its productivity suite, and Google's competitive dynamics in smart glasses. Meta's advancements in wearables and AI integration across platforms are also highlighted. Trevor shares insights into the impact of AI on productivity, the evolving competition between tech giants, and personal experiences with generative AI tools.
Articles On Our Radar
Microsoft’s AI Story Is Getting Complicated (WSJ)
Microsoft Pitches AI for Consumers Against Crowded Field of Rivals (Bloomberg Technology)
Google Searches for Its Footing in Smart Glasses as Meta Gains Ground (The Information)
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38:4109/10/2024
Algos & Art with Masterworks Founder Scott Lynn
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss the tech market's recent decline, focusing on Apple and semiconductor stocks. They explore the influence of geopolitical tensions, particularly between Israel and Lebanon, and their impact on tech stocks. The conversation also delves into Apple's future, including its AI capabilities and market performance. The hosts analyze the performance of semiconductor companies like NVIDIA, Dell, and Micron amid the generative AI trend.
After the break, Dan interviews Scott Lynn, CEO and founder of Masterworks, discussing the opportunity for average investors to invest in high-value art through a fractionalized basis, the performance of contemporary art compared to other asset classes, and the role of low correlation in portfolio diversification. Lynn also reflects on his entrepreneurial journey, the art market's dynamics, and the recent boom and bust in the NFT market.
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51:1802/10/2024
Is the GenAI Glass Half Full Or Empty with Deirdre Bosa, Michael Dempsey & Jonathan Godwin
Dan Nathan is joined by Deirdre Bosa, host of CNBC's TechCheck, to discuss the latest in AI investments, including Google and Amazon's funding in Anthropic, and how these valuations are evolving. They also banter about a New York Times article scrutinizing the future impact of generative AI. The episode highlights the rapid revenue growth in companies like OpenAI and Anthropic, growing interest and skepticism towards AI from big players like Goldman Sachs, with insights from Jim Covello. The conversation touches on consumer applications of AI, such as the use of models from companies like OpenAI and Anthropic by platforms like Perplexity. Bosa explores the strategic moves by Microsoft to train its own AI models and the broader implications for the AI market.
After the break, Dan Nathan is joined by Michael Dempsey, managing partner at Compound VC, and Jonathan Godwin of Orbital Materials, discussing their innovative approach using AI for advanced materials and climate tech. The episode wraps with a look at potential overcapacity in AI infrastructure and shifting strategies in major tech firms.
Further Reading
Will A.I. Be a Bust? A Wall Street Skeptic Rings the Alarm. (NYT)
AI’s $600B Question (Sequoia Capital)
Gen AI: too much spend, too little benefit? (Goldman Sachs)
WhatsApp Dominates Meta AI Use (The Information)
Microsoft AI Chief Suleyman Shuffles Unit Leadership, Pointing to Shift in Strategy (The Information)
Why I Started Orbital Materials (Substack)
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56:1025/09/2024
The Morning After
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss the recent interest rate cut by the US Federal Reserve and its implications for tech stocks and market performance. The conversation delves into the current price action, tech valuations, and the contrasting performances of various sectors, including hyperscalers and enterprise software. They analyze the S&P 500 and Nasdaq's historical performances, the potential impacts of interest rates on technology stocks, and valuations in a broad market context. The discussion also covers individual stocks like Apple, Tesla, Adobe, Microsoft, and the significance of recent trends in network security stocks such as Zscaler.
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32:3519/09/2024
AI’s Trough of Disillusionment with Jeff Richards
Dan Nathan welcomes Jeff Richards, Managing Partner at Notable Capital, to discuss the current state and trends in both private and public markets, especially regarding generative AI. They explore the evolving valuations of private AI companies, how big names like NVIDIA and Google are influencing market trends, and the dominance of the 'Mag 7' tech stocks. The conversation covers the recent Apple event and its potential integration of AI, why software stocks have been soft, and the ongoing challenges in the IPO market. Jeff also shares insights on shifting capital allocations, regulatory dynamics, and the future of AI-driven transformations across various sectors. The discussion ends with a deep dive into the role of private equity firms and the significant influence of private credit in today's higher interest rate environment.
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44:0410/09/2024
A Lessin In Gen AI with Sam Lessin of Slow Ventures
Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa explore Amazon's strategic investment in Anthropic, the potential of Apple's upcoming AI features, and the importance of cloud service credits in AI investments. The regulatory challenges and future of TikTok in the US market are also scrutinized.
After the break, Sam Lessin from Slow Ventures shares his insights on the impact of generative AI on venture capital investments, emphasizing the shift towards building sustainable businesses through organic growth and strategic mergers. The episode concludes by reflecting on the broader impact of AI and social media, highlighting the importance of authenticity in the tech space and the long-term opportunities for American entrepreneurs.
Further Reading
Barron's Give Facebook the thumbs down (Barron's)
More or Less Podcast (Apple)
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01:04:3404/09/2024
Tech Investor Gene Munster on MegaTrends
Dan Nathan and Gene Munster, founder and partner of Deepwater Asset Management delve into the latest developments in the tech market, focusing on NVIDIA's impending earnings report and the competitive landscape of AI. They discuss expectations for NVIDIA's revenue growth, the implications of supply-demand dynamics, and the ongoing arms race among tech giants like Google, Amazon, and Microsoft in the AI sector. The conversation also covers Apple's upcoming September 9th event, where new product announcements could significantly impact consumer interest, and examines Tesla's current challenges amid a shifting electric vehicle market.
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41:2928/08/2024
Dan Niles On Mag7 Guidance + Nvidia Earnings Preview
Dan Nathan and Dan Niles, the founder of Niles Investment Management, dive into a comprehensive discussion on the current macroeconomic landscape, highlighting the implications of Federal Reserve policies and market expectations. They explore the potential for a soft landing in the U.S. economy, emphasizing the critical role of unemployment and inflation metrics. The conversation extends to the tech sector's 'Magnificent Seven,' focusing on recent earnings trends, AI capital expenditures, and the varying performances of tech giants such as NVIDIA, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon. They also examine the cyclical nature of tech upgrades, particularly in relation to Apple's latest innovations, and the long-term impact of AI advancements on market dynamics.
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47:2921/08/2024
Being Human in the Age of AI with Joe Marchese
Dan Nathan is joined by Joe Marchese, General & Build Partner at Human Ventures, for an in-depth discussion on the intersection of human attention and generative AI. They explore Joe's recent article, 'Human Attention is All You Need,' which critiques the reliance on algorithms over trust in building brands. They also discuss the role of AI in the stock market, focusing on companies like NVIDIA, Meta, and Amazon. The conversation delves into the implications of AI on advertising, commerce, and brand building, and reflects on the broader economic impacts. Additionally, they talk about the challenges and opportunities for startups in the AI space, the future of media and advertising platforms, and the potential for brand erosion due to over-reliance on performance marketing. The episode concludes with insights on the future of generative AI, market valuation, and the importance of building consumer trust.
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34:4714/08/2024
A Couple of Talking Heads on GenAI, Crypto & The State of Fintech with Trevor Marshall
Dan Nathan is joined by Trevor Marshall, CTO at Current to discuss recent trends in technology and finance. The episode covers the intricacies of generative AI, including market dynamics, Nvidia's large customer concentration, and the impact of rising rates in Japan on tech stocks and crypto. Trevor also shares insights on using machine learning in FinTech, particularly for customer service and fraud prevention, and the evolution of AI applications in consumer technology with references to Apple and Google’s advancements. Additionally, the discussion touches on the challenges faced by SaaS companies and potential shifts towards enterprise applications of AI. The episode also explores the current state and future of FinTech, emphasizing innovations like earned wage access and the effects of high rate environments on consumer credit.
Articles On Our Radar
As Regulators Close In, Nvidia Scrambles for a Response (NYT)
A Reality Check on AI With Chevron’s CIO (The Information)
Klarna Weighs Secondary Share Sale Ahead of IPO (The Information)
The AI summer (Ben Evans)
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42:5207/08/2024
MegaCap Tech Earnings: What We’ve Learned So Far
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami explore the recent broad-based selloff in mega cap tech stocks, particularly focusing on Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, and Apple. They analyze the reactions to Microsoft's earnings report and its implications for the semiconductor sector, they discuss the overall health and future prospects of these tech giants, and delve into the performance of key companies like NVIDIA and AMD. The duo also looks ahead to upcoming earnings reports from other major tech players. Throughout, they highlight the importance of understanding market expectations, the economic environment, and the role of artificial intelligence in shaping tech trends.
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31:4731/07/2024
Mega-Cap Earnings Preview With Gene Munster
Dan Nathan is joined by Gene Munster, Managing Partner at Deepwater Asset Management, to discuss key tech stocks ahead of their earnings reports. Key focus areas include the AI hype cycle and recent NASDAQ sell-off dynamics. They analyze market sentiments, expected pullbacks, and specific stock movements, particularly in the semiconductor space. Google and its AI advances, Tesla and its expected vehicle launches, Microsoft's alignment with OpenAI, Meta's AI integrations, and Apple's upcoming AI features in iPhones. They also touch upon the private sector as it relates to the batch of AI-first companies due to come online in the next couple of years.
Further Reading
A Reality Check on AI With Chevron’s CIO (The Information)
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49:1623/07/2024
Will Regulators Beat the Wiz? + The ‘Yes Chef’ Ryan Hardy
Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa, host of CNBC's Tech Check, delve into the AI craze in both public and private markets, analyzing Google's potential $23 billion acquisition of Israeli AI firm Wiz. They discuss the AI industry's rapid growth, the cautious market outlook from influential players like Goldman Sachs and Sequoia Capital, and expectations for Q2 tech earnings. The conversation also touches on the regulatory landscape and its impact on significant deals and the new race for tech companies to develop small language models.
Chef and restaurateur Ryan Hardy of Delicious Hospitality Group joins after the break. Ryan delves into his culinary origin story, starting from his Kentucky roots and his professional growth in San Francisco during the 90s, to his eventual success in New York City with notable establishments like Charlie Bird and Pasquale Jones. Hardy shares his experience in curating airline menus for JetBlue, his business philosophy, and the challenges and opportunities of managing hospitality in an evolving technological landscape. The conversation also touches on Hardy's venture into hotel management, the impact of inflation, and the importance of mentorship in the hospitality industry.
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01:02:2317/07/2024
After The AI Gold Rush with Guy Adami
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss recent market trends, focusing on the NASDAQ's highs and the outperformance of semiconductor stocks, particularly NVIDIA. They also delve into enterprise software performance, with companies like Salesforce and Adobe dipping in the market. The conversation shifts to AI developments, highlighting Elon Musk’s moves with xAI and the competitive landscape involving OpenAI, Alphabet, and Anthropic. The guys touch on Apple's market cap surge post-WWDC and debates surrounding its valuation. Furthermore, they examine Tesla's stock performance and its AI-driven initiatives, despite recent struggles in the auto sector. Lastly, the duo analyze Meta and Alphabet's promising valuations and revenue growth potentials amidst the broader tech landscape.
Further Reading
Musk’s xAI and Oracle End Talks on a Server Deal (The Information)
Elon’s Reply on X
Roger McNamee on the AI bubble
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33:4510/07/2024
The Way of the Champion with Paul Rabil
Dan Nathan is joined by Paul Rabil to discuss his new book The Way Of The Champion and his journey as co-founder of the PLL. Dan and Paul reflect on their past interactions, including Rabil's early appearances on CNBC, and delve into how he and his brother have revolutionized the sport through innovative business models, media strategies, and commitment to inclusivity. The conversation touches on Rabil's athletic success, the challenges he faced, and his new book, 'The Way of the Champion.' They also highlight the significance of lacrosse's return to the Olympics in 2028 and its impact on the sport's future.
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01:00:4105/07/2024
The Killer AI Device is Already in 2 Billion Pockets
CNBC TechCheck’s Deirdre Bosa joins Dan Nathan on Okay, Computer. European regulators are cracking down on American Big Tech companies with the Digital Markets Act. What's the impact on these firms and will it actually hurt the stock price (2:00)? Is the iPhone the AI device of the future (9:00)? Databricks has the edge on Snowflake, is there any rush to go public (18:00)?
Articles Mentioned
Apple’s AI killer is... the iPhone (TechCheck)
Businesses Want Slower AI Models—And That Might Hurt Nvidia (The Information)
Databricks Has an Edge on Snowflake—but It May Not Be as Big as Investors Think (The Information)
Apple, Meta Have Discussed an AI Partnership (WSJ)
Databricks Has an Edge on Snowflake—but It May Not Be as Big as Investors Think (The Information)
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22:3226/06/2024
Divergences Abound in the Nasdaq
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss the current state of the public and private markets, focusing on impressive gains in AI-related stocks like Apple, Nvidia, and Microsoft. They delve into the significant market caps of these companies, the potential dangers of their rapid growth, and the likelihood of margin compression due to increased competition. They also touch on specific instances of insider trading and sell-offs in companies like Dell, along with the economic implications of unemployment rates on enterprise spending. Additionally, they analyze the future of FinTech and generative AI, expressing skepticism about the ongoing enthusiasm and pointing out the risks of a potential slowdown.
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26:1918/06/2024
OnlyDans Redux
Dan Nathan and Dan Niles of Niles Investment Management discuss key financial and tech topics. They explore expectations for the upcoming Apple Worldwide Developers Conference and its potential impact on Apple's stock. The conversation covers Google, Microsoft, and their advancements in AI, along with Nvidia's future prospects amid expected spending digestion. They touch on Tesla's market challenges and job cuts in the tech industry. Additionally, they consider the implications of elections and geopolitical events on the economy, projecting potential market shifts and stressing the importance of data dependency and adapting to changing scenarios.
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Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
4:00 - Dan's Macro Outlook
14:00 - Apple's AI Plan
28:30 - Enterprise Software
39:00 - Is Tesla Screwed?
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51:4811/06/2024
WWDC AI Expectations + Catching Cancer Early with Emi Gal and Rick Heitzmann
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami are joined by Deirdre Bosa to break down and dissect the top headlines in the tech sector this week. The crew dives into recent tech trends, dissects Nvidia's influence in AI, and analyzes post-earnings stock movements of Dell. They explore potential PC upgrade cycles driven by AI and Nvidia's latest AI platform introduced at Computex. Elon Musk's "strategic" use of Nvidia AI chips and Apple's prospective partnership with OpenAI ahead of WWDC are also discussed.
After the break, Dan is joined by Rick Heitzmann of FirstMark Capital and Ezra co-Founder Emi Gal as our “Funders x Founders” series returns. The guys are highlighting the company's mission to revolutionize early cancer detection through AI-driven MRI scans, focusing on goals to expand accessibility and improve early detection rates over the next decade.
Timecodes
Pump The Brakes On An Upgrade Cycle (2:00)
Computex (7:30)
Musk Chip Moving (12:00)
Deebo Previews Wwdc (14:30)
Starting Ezra (32:00)
Digital Health X Firstmark (34:30)
Pricing (43:00)
Pushbacks (50:00)
The Future For Ezra (55:00)
Biohacking (59:30)
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01:07:0705/06/2024
Not Your Mum's ChatGPT
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami are joined by Deirdre Bosa, host of CNBC's Tech Check, for an engaging discussion on the latest trends in tech and finance. The episode kicks off with a market overview, highlighting NASDAQ's new highs and the S&P's performance, while also touching on the impact of interest rates on tech valuations. Deirdre shares insights on the excitement surrounding AI in Silicon Valley and the reluctance of startups to go public despite market highs.
The conversation then shifts to the "Magnificent Seven" tech stocks, with a particular focus on NVIDIA's staggering market cap growth and its role as a proxy for AI investments. The trio delves into Amazon's AI strategy and its profitability push under Andy Jassy, as well as the resurgence of old tech companies like Dell in the AI hardware space. Speculation arises about Apple's potential AI hardware announcements at WWDC and the challenges generative AI startups face in monetizing their investments in NVIDIA chips. The discussion also covers the different AI models available to consumers and the potential for commoditization in the AI space. Guy raises questions about the relevance of monetary policy and interest rates on the tech market, with Deirdre providing insights from her perspective. The episode also touches on PwC's partnership with OpenAI and its implications for the enterprise Gen AI market.
Articles We’re Reading
Dell Should Keep Shining in Nvidia’s Halo (WSJ)
Nvidia’s Cloud Spending Soars, as It Looks Beyond Chips (The Information)
Hedge funds have never been more long the Magnificent 7 stocks, exceeding last summer’s peak exposure (CNBC)
Google’s AI search setback (Platformer)
China Creates $47.5 Billion Chip Fund to Back Nation’s Firms (Bloomberg)
Apple Set to Unveil AI Strategy at June 10 Developers Conference (Bloomberg)
PwC Set to Become OpenAI’s Largest ChatGPT Enterprise Customer (WSJ)
The Great AI Challenge: We Test Five Top Bots on Useful, Everyday Skills (WSJ)
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32:5130/05/2024
The Great AI Bake Off + Nvidia Earnings Preview with Gene Munster and Deirdre Bosa
Dan Nathan is joined by Gene Munster, Managing Partner at Deepwater Asset Management.This week all eyes look to Nvidia as it reports on Wednesday (3:15) and the conundrum Apple has when it comes to third party AI (13:30).
After the break, Deirdre Bosa joins Dan Nathan for an update on Ilya Sutskever and Jan Leike’s OpenAI departures (19:00), Deirdre’s report from Google I/O (23:45), will Apple pick the Gen AI winner when it comes to Google vs OpenAI (28:30) and drama at Amazon (32:30).
Links Mentioned
Checkout MRKT Matrix (Apple Podcasts | Spotify)
Dan Niles on Nvidia (X)
OpenAI’s GPT-4o Demo (YouTube)
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37:3421/05/2024
Apple AI Ambitions Pan-caked with Ann Bordetsky of NEA + Gokul Rajaram and Michael Gilroy
Dan is joined by NEA Partner Ann Bordetsky on this week’s Okay, Computer. OpenAI unveils Chat-GPT4o as speculation around a deal with Apple swirls (3:00), did Apple go too far with it’s latest iPad ad (14:30), Google I/O continues to embed AI everywhere it can (22:00), SoundHound AI and Perplexity Partner (24:00), thoughts on AI powered wearables (27:30).
After the break, we bring you a conversation Dan had with Gokul Rajaram and Michael Gilroy at RBC Capital’s Technology Private Company Conference (35:00).
Advertising Memory Lane
Apple’s ‘1984’ Commercial
LG KC910 Renoir Advertisement
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01:09:1515/05/2024
When Reality Meets Real Estate with Mauricio Umansky, Founder/CEO of The Agency & Brent Montgomery of Wheelhouse
On this episode of “Okay, Computer.” Dan Nathan is joined by his “On The Tape” co-host Guy Adami to interview Brent Montgomery, CEO of Wheelhouse, and Mauricio Umansky, Founder & CEO of The Agency and star of the Netflix series “Buying Beverly Hills.” They discuss Brent’s history of creating reality TV shows (3:00), monetizing “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” and what makes a great show (7:00), Wheelhouse (15:00), casting for reality TV (17:00), being yourself on TV (22:00), the media landscape (27:00), and the real estate market (30:00).
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35:3108/05/2024
Apple Investors On PINS & NVDAs
On this episode of “Okay, Computer.” Dan is joined by Guy Adami to discuss the latest headlines in big tech. They hit: AMD earnings (4:00), semi stock aftershocks (9:30), CDW Corp/Amazon (15:30), Pinterest (19:30), and Apple earnings preview (23:00).
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30:4101/05/2024
Big Tech Q1 Earnings Preview with Gene Munster
Managing Partner at Deepwater Asset Management Gene Munster is back on the pod to preview Big Tech earnings. Netflix stock falls on soft guidance & reporting changes (3:20). We preview quarterly earnings reports for: Tesla (8:00), Meta (15:30), Alphabet (21:30) Microsoft (33:15), Amazon (38:30) and Apple (42:00). The guys wrap with a discussion on what’s happened to “TikTok Ban” (51:00).
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53:5623/04/2024
What’s Halvening in AI, FinTech & Crypto with Trevor Marshall
Trevor Marshall, CTO of Current is kicking back with Dan for an update on all things AI, FinTech and crypto.
Topics on the pod today include; a vibe check on Generative AI (3:00), Investors Sitting Out the Latest AI Wave (10:30), can Apple turn the tide when it comes to AI (17:00), the Humane AI pin (24:00), a vibe check on Bitcoin after its weekend plunge (29:30), upcoming halving (33:45) & Ethereum (38:45).
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42:5617/04/2024
A Notable Update On The IPO Landscape with Jeff Richards + Funders x Founders with Handshake’s Garett Lord
Dan is joined by Jeff Richards of Notable Capital about structural changes to the firm on top of the name change from GGV Capital (3:15). The guys also discuss Jeff’s view on the startup environment (6:05), AI Valuations May Be Coming Down To Earth (10:45), the interest rate impact on valuations and new investments (15:45), is the 2024 IPO class is more resilient than the last round (19:30), Adobe’s skid around a lack of AI (21:30), potential headwinds (32:30), AI as a tailwind for small business (37:30).
After the break, Dan and Jeff are joined by Garrett Lord, co-founder & CEO of Handshake. The trios discuss Handshake’s origin story (41:30), how Handshake compares to competitors like LinkedIn or Indeed (45:00), what drew Jeff to the company (46:00), how Handshake partners with academic institutions (49:20), what attracted Jeff to Handshake’s business model (51:40), the job market for college graduates (55:00), how technology has changed recruiting after college (57:30), the labor market (59:45), the student experience (1:03:30), evolving as a founder and CEO (1:05:30), what excites him about the future (1:09:30)
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01:11:3910/04/2024
Tech Partying Like Its 2021 with Rick Heitzmann + A Better Way To Carpool with Joanna McFarland CEO of HopSkipDrive
On this episode of “Okay, Computer,” Dan Nathan and Rick Heitzmann of FirstMark Capital give an update on the IPO market, and what to expect from some of the most valuable unicorns in 2024. Topics they hit include; the Reddit IPO (4:00), IPO outlook for 2024 (10:30), investing in AI (14:00), software haves vs. have nots (21:00),
Later, they are joined by Joanna McFarland, Co-Founder & CEO of HopSkipDrive, for the latest installment of Funders x Founders. They discuss The inspiration for starting HopSkipDrive & its early days (31:00), biggest challenges faced & the business model (34:15), navigating the pandemic in 2020 (40:00), solving the school transportation problem with AI software (46:30), safety (52:00), total addressable market and the future with AI (55:30).
Reference Links
Matt Turck’s 2024 MAD Report
Fidelity’s Twitter Markdown
Most Valuable Private Companies
Huge AI funding leads to hype and ‘grifting’, warns DeepMind’s Demis Hassabis
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01:01:1803/04/2024
Nvidia GTC Debrief with Deirdre Bosa + Getting Book Smart with Literati’s Jessica Ewing and Katie Stanton of Moxxie Ventures
Deirdre Bosa is back for another edition of Okay, Computer. Deirdre gives us the lowdown on her visit to Nvidia’s GTC 2024 & her interview with Clara Shih of Salesforce (2:00), the quest to break Nvidia’s AI software lock (7:00), Reddit goes public via IPO (12:15), the vibe around private tech (17:15).
Later, Dan is joined by Katie Stanton of Moxxie Ventures and Jessica Ewing of Literati for the latest installment of the Funders x Founders series. They discuss the unique way Katie and Jessica met (22:00), the inspiration behind Literati (26:40), their process for picking books (29:15), entering school book fairs (32:15), why investors should be paying attention to this space (38:00), Literati in schools (40:20) and what makes a great investor (45:00).
Use code RISKREVERSAL for $15 in book credit on your first box at literati.com
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49:0427/03/2024
Apple & Google The AI Underdogs with Gene Munster of Deepwater Asset Management
On this episode of Okay, Computer. Dan Nathan is joined by Gene Munster of Deepwater Asset Management. Topics they discuss: Nvidia (2:00), why we could see a 10-15% pullback in the stock (10:30), a potential Apple/Alphabet AI deal (17:45), whether Apple could/would buy Perplexity.io (22:00), Google’s Gemini AI (24:45), and how a TikTok ban could impact Meta & Snap (29:00).
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35:1520/03/2024
Tick Tock for TikTok? + Funders & Founders w/ Matt Turck & Florian Douetteau CEO of Dataiku
CNBC’s Deirdre Bosa is BACK with Dan Nathan to discuss what has the Valley buzzing. TikTok might be forced to part ways with ByteDance, what does this mean for Teemu and Shein (2:00), Perplexity Set To Double Valuation to $1 Billion (10:30), will investors “sell the news” after Nvidia’s GTC 2024 next week (17:00)?
After the break, Dan is joined by Matt Turck, Partner at FirstMark Capital and Florian Douetteau, CEO & Co-Founder of Dataiku about the state of Enterprise AI and the “Globalization of Entrepreneurship” (22:00)
Listen: Aravind Srinivas on “Invest Like The Best” with Patrick O’Shaughnessy
Read: Matt’s 2023 MAD Report
Read: Amazon, Google Quietly Tamp Down Generative AI Expectations
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50:2713/03/2024
Perplexity Making Google a Paranoid Android with CEO Aravind Srinivas and Ann Bordetsky of NEA
On this episode of Okay, Computer. Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa discuss Perplexity vs. other chatbots (2:30), Elon Musk suing Open AI & Sam Altman (7:30), Apple & Google sitting out the AI rally (9:45), and enterprise chatbots taking jobs (22:45). After the break, Dan sits down with Aravind Srinivas, Perplexity CEO and Ann Bordetsky, Partner at NEA for the latest installment of our Funders x Founders series (27:30). They hit Aravind’s background (29:00), reinventing search (33:00), what Perplexity is and how it works (38:30), taking share from Google (41:30), revenue sources they are focused on (56:30) and a vibe check on Silicon Valley (57:15).
Articles Mentioned on this Podcast:
Google vs. Google: The Internal Struggle Holding Back its AI (CNBC’s TechCheck)
Elon Musk Suing Open AI & Sam Altman Over Contract Breach (CNBC)
Klarna froze hiring because of AI. Now it says its chatbot does the work of 700 full-time staff (Fortune)
JPMorgan’s AI-Aided Cashflow Model Can Cut Manual Work by 90% (Bloomberg)
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01:02:0405/03/2024
Droughts & Fire: Kara Swisher’s Burn Book & Tech IPO Comeback with RBC’s Jesse Chasse
On this episode of Okay, Computer. Dan Nathan and Guy Adami sit down with Kara Swisher, author of Burn Book: A Tech Love Story, for an in-depth look at the book and her process for writing it. Later, Dan is joined by Jesse Chasse of RBC Capital Markets to discuss the state of the IPO market (47:30), lessons learned from SPACs/direct listings (53:45), strategic M&A (55:45), the path to going public (48:00), comparisons to the dot com bubble (1:02:00), Uber’s wild ride (1:04:00), and the economic environment right now (1:08:00).
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01:09:3328/02/2024
What's In Your Merger Agreement? with Trevor Marshall + Funders x Founders with Ajay Kamat & Ethan Agarwal
On this episode of Okay, Computer. Dan Nathan is joined by Trevor Marshall, CTO of Current, to discuss a wide-range of headlines dominating the tech/fintech markets this week. They discuss Capital One’s plan to acquire Discover Financial (3:00), Crypto (15:00), and AI winners/losers (23:00).
After the break, Dan is joined by Ethan Agarwal, co-founder and CEO of The Coterie, and Ajay Kamat, partner at Pear VC, for the latest installment of the Funders x Founders series. They discuss their background, creating companies to solve problems, what The Coterie does, how the Silicon Valley Bank debacle impacted their business, the Funder x Founder relationship and current macroeconomic environment.
Checkout Kara's Book
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01:05:3421/02/2024
Funders & Founders with Rick Heitzmann & Zach Reitano + Deirdre Bosa Pods like a Billionaire
Deirdre Bosa joins Okay, Computer. to talk about all things in tech this week. Teemu takes over the Super Bowl, Is Microsoft Co-Pilot worth the price?. Plus, Deirdre got her hands on the Apple Vision Pro, what's it actually like?
Later, Dan is joined by Zach Reitano, Co-Founder & CEO of Ro, and Rick Heitzmann, Co-Founder and Partner at FirstMark Capital, for the first installment of our Funders x Founders series. They hit Ro’s origin story, stigmas around obesity, what attracted Rick to Ro, and how their relationship has evolved.
Links Referenced
Listen to our last interview with Zach Reitano
FirstMark Leads $88 Million Round in Men’s Health Startup Roman
He Sold Burritos Out of His Apartment Window. Now He’s Running a $7 Billion Startup
Acquired Podcast: The Complete History & Strategy of Novo Nordisk
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01:06:3914/02/2024
Market Rests On Nvidia’s Shoulders + Reddit Co-Founder Alexis Ohanian & FirstMark's Rick Heitzmann on the AI Revolution
Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa talk Big Tech layoffs, microchips, plus the M&A space
After the break, we bring you Dan’s panel from iConnections Global Alts with Alexis Ohanian and Rick Heitzmann of FirstMark Capital. Witness how Alexis Ohanian's journey from founding Reddit to starting Seven Seven Six during the tumultuous year of 2020 has shaped his approach to tech-driven venture capital, focusing on creating deep connections with founders and CEOs. Rick Heitzmann shares insights on forming long-term partnerships with founders, enduring through both triumphs and tribulations, and the importance of due diligence in today's fast-paced investment landscape.
Topics On The Pod
Adam Neumann wants WeWork back
DocuSign Take-Private Put On Ice
Ryan Denehy Tweet
Is it time to ‘Sell Nvidia’?
Mark Cuban's Famous Collar Trade
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57:1807/02/2024
The Fate of the Furious Five
On this episode of Okay, Computer. Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa preview a huge week ahead for tech earnings and some of the key themes to watch out for.
Topics:
Intro
Earnings Expectations (3:00)
The Rally Around Big Tech (15:30)
Google’s Search Dominance (20:00 )
The Headset Wars: Why it's Apple's to Lose (23:05)
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28:4730/01/2024
New Year, New AI Winners with Gene Munster
Gene Munster of Deepwater Asset Management is back for his quarterly tech earnings preview! He joins Dan Nathan to discuss Nvidia (5:00), Microsoft (11:00), how interest rates impact tech stocks (19:15), Alphabet (20:30), Amazon (27:00), Meta (32:45), Apple (38:30), Tesla (48:15), and Gene’s AI bubble prediction (57:45).
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59:2824/01/2024
Is Apple On The Edge of AI Glory? Deirdre Bosa Talks AI Hardware
Dan Nathan is back for another episode of Okay, Computer. This week Deirdre Bosa from CNBC’s TechCheck joins the pod to discuss the biggest headlines in the tech world this year
Topics
Tech’s Recent Rally (1:00)
Years of Efficiency For Tech Companies (5:30)
The Year of AI Hardware (7:30)
Apple As A Sneaky AI Play?
Apple Offers Rare iPhone 15 Discount in China Amid Demand Fears
Samsung Places AI at Forefront as 2024 Phone Launches Kick Off
Rabbit R1 & Humane’s Ai Pin
Chip Makers As 2024 Bellwether (15:00)
Databricks CEO: Every Organization we’ve Talked to has a Mandate to use New A.I. tools
Beware Private Equity Takeovers (20:15)
What Dan & Deirdre are Focused on (23:45)
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26:4017/01/2024
OnlyDans Tech Talk with Satori Fund’s Dan Niles
Tech investor Dan Niles is back! He joins Dan Nathan on this Okay, Computer episode to give his 2024 stock market outlook and top picks
Topic Timecodes:
Dan’s thought process on the markets (3:00)
Interest rates & earnings impact on mega-cap tech (5:15)
Apple (9:25)
Nvidia (14:00)
Tesla (17:45 )
The AI Gold Rush (23:00)
Meta (32:45)
Amazon (36:15)
Chinese Internet Stocks (39:40)
Texas Instruments (43:20)
Biotech Socks (47:45)
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53:4510/01/2024
Everything Old is New Again with Deirdre Bosa
Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa are back with the latest episode of Okay, Computer., discussing what they are focused on in the tech world this year.
Key Insights from the Pod:
Tech stocks starting the year off in the red (1:30)
Apple downgraded at Barclay’s (7:00)
Mega-cap tech’s ad model (10:00)
The Year That Big Tech Remembered Ads Are A Good Business
LinkedIn ad prices rise as advertisers leave Elon Musk’s X
OpenAI’s Annualized Revenue Tops $1.6 Billion as Customers Shrug Off CEO Drama
The AI hype train (19:00)
The IPO market (21:45)
Canva Nears $1 Billion Stock Sale for Employees and Investors, Part of Wave of Private Deals
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25:4703/01/2024
He Who Forgets Will Be Destined to Remember with Deirdre Bosa
On this episode of Okay, Computer. Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa discuss key tech trends from 2023 and look ahead to 2024.
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33:4527/12/2023
Of Mega Trends and VC Men with Josh Wolfe and Rick Heitzmann
On this episode of Okay, Computer. Dan Nathan is joined by Josh Wolfe of Lux Capital and Rick Heitzmann of FirstMark Capital for a conversation about investing in private tech, the macro environment and geopolitical hotspots.
Key Insights from the Pod:
Intro (Listen to the last time Josh & Rick were on the pod) (0:00)
The interest rate environment (2:15)
Mentoring (6:00)
Creative destruction and reformation (9:50)
The IPO market (Read: IPO Class of 2024 Is Dominated by Older Startups (16:25)
Sectors that could see a wave of money (19:15)
The AI bubble (21:05)
Massive bubble in Mag 7 stocks? (26:00)
GLP-1s & Ozempic (29:50)
The next Ozempic-like moment (31:20)
Ro Body (32:20)
Sentiment going into 2024 (34:00)
Economic headwinds/Possible labor recession (37:30)
Why Josh thinks UPS could go bankrupt & his case for Amazon (40:15)
Josh’s geopolitical outlook for 2024 (Read: Josh Wolfe’s War) (41:40)
China/Taiwan (44:15)
Disarray in US politics (48:00)
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54:1920/12/2023