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Critical but casual approaches to current, past, and future video games six times a week. In addition, guests will periodically share their own aesthetic and personal experiences with games in conversation! Subscribe to our Patreon at www.patreon.com/hegelbon if you'd like to hear special patron-only bonus episodes!
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Episode 123: "Not Pretty Like the Movies" with Kreal of Krealtube!

Episode 123: "Not Pretty Like the Movies" with Kreal of Krealtube!

We welcome Michael, better known to the internet as Kreal (@mykreal), on to the show to talk about his own content on youtube, the films and games he loves, his motivations, and there's some dad chat in there baby, you'd better believe it. New best buddy of the podcast Kreal absolutely brings it this episode, well worth a listen -- and check out krealtube.com first!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:52:3614/05/2019
No Cartridge Presents: Patch Notes 1.5

No Cartridge Presents: Patch Notes 1.5

We're back with an episode shockingly not on labor issues in gaming! Is this because we are bold and love new ideas or because I just had a full hour long talk on Riot with a Rioter? Who can say -- what I can say is: Sonic Movie! Overwatch Cinematic Universe (?!)! And Anthem.... :(Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:29:0709/05/2019
Episode 122: Anatomy of the Riot Walkout with Jocelyn Monahan

Episode 122: Anatomy of the Riot Walkout with Jocelyn Monahan

We welcome old friend and colleague Jocelyn @guldeuxchats Monahan on to the show to talk about the Riot! walkout from her position on the ground. Absolutely indispensible audio if you care at all about labor and gaming -- Joce is a force.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:17:1509/05/2019
Episode 121: Porno for Pyros with Michelle Perez

Episode 121: Porno for Pyros with Michelle Perez

We welcome noted author of The Pervert and all around good twitter provacateur Michelle @mperezwritesirl Perez to the show to talk about Assassin's Creed, porn in 2019, the deeply reactionary ways our world is evolving, and basically everything else under the sun. A massive and fun journey into the world of a conversation awaits!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:51:3807/05/2019
No Cartridge Presents: Patch Notes 1.4, Patch Notes Up All Nite

No Cartridge Presents: Patch Notes 1.4, Patch Notes Up All Nite

Jon and I take an unusually winding path to the news this week as we record in the dead hours of the early morning! Listen to us try to unpack labor issues, MK11 crunch, Path of Exile News, and, god help us, Days Gone!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:36:2603/05/2019
Episode 120: Bioshock Finite with Ian Mooney

Episode 120: Bioshock Finite with Ian Mooney

We welcome scholar and gentleman Ian Mooney on the show to talk about Bioshock Infinite, philosophy, videogames, and aesthetics. The Platonic Ideal of No Cartridge!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:10:4501/05/2019
No Cartridge Bonus: After Dark with Marc Normandin

No Cartridge Bonus: After Dark with Marc Normandin

Liv joins me as always for an After Dark grilling of everyone's favorite baseball labor writer cum Assassin's Creed expert Marc Normandin! Is this our most dad episode yet? Liv will try to stem the tide, but no promises.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:17:5227/04/2019
Episode 119: Vator Om with Dendy Crew

Episode 119: Vator Om with Dendy Crew

We welcome the illustrious Dendy Crew (@dendycrew) to discuss rhythm gaming, electronic music, and the nature of being embarrassed in public vs enjoying the space of dance. Absolute must listen from everyone's favorite elephant producer.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:18:1225/04/2019
No Cartridge Presents Patch Notes 1.3: The one about Telltale

No Cartridge Presents Patch Notes 1.3: The one about Telltale

Jon is back with me, Trevor, talking about Telltale Games' ex-CEO and his extremely strange article, as well as the PS5 and the new Mortal Kombat Slavery Ender Sim.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:22:5024/04/2019
PATREON UNLOCK! Ruiner and Gatekeeping

PATREON UNLOCK! Ruiner and Gatekeeping

FROM THE NO CARTRIDGE PATREON ARCHIVES: I think through Ruiner, Cuphead, and the nature of gatekeeping and difficulty. Discover why I think Ruiner is okay but forgettable and Cuphead is a potentially game-changing title! A great episode if you just picked up Cuphead on Switch or have feelings about easy mode discourse!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
18:1719/04/2019
No Cartridge Presents: Patch Notes 1.2

No Cartridge Presents: Patch Notes 1.2

Jon and Trev are back to talk about the news and views you so crave! This week -- Star Wars games and Star Wars argument/fatigue; and Elder Scrolls: Blades, the legalized gambling young minds crave. Enjoy!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:14:4818/04/2019
Episode 118: Something I Could Do While I Was Unemployed with Justin "donoteat01"

Episode 118: Something I Could Do While I Was Unemployed with Justin "donoteat01"

We welcome the illustrious Justin, otherwise known on twitter and primarily YouTube as donoteat01, socialist Cities Skyline producer extraordinaire. We talk about his methods of making videos, how politics enters into city building, the origins of the city sim itself, and much much more. Truly one of our more deliciously political and socialism-heavy episodes in a while!For more from Justin, check out donoteat01 on youtube or @donoteat1 on twitterFor more from me, check @hegelbon or patreon.com/nocartridgeThanks to producer Julian, who you can find at @thirdsecond and @atsband, and thanks to the intern who tweets his heart out @nocartridge. Please send food and missives to @prodigis, lost at sea, and surely composing a new theme.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
52:3515/04/2019
Episode 117: Falcon Age and Aunties with Chandana Ekanayake

Episode 117: Falcon Age and Aunties with Chandana Ekanayake

We talk with Chandana Ekanayake (@ekanaut) about his work on the incredible new game Falcon Age! In a conversation ranging from his history in game development, to imperialism, to oral history, to representation in videogames, this is a wide-ranging talk with a fascinating developer. And as a plus, Falcon Age just came out so you can go buy it!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:10:1312/04/2019
No Cartridge Presents: Patch Notes 1.1

No Cartridge Presents: Patch Notes 1.1

Join me, Trevor Strunk, and Jonathan Bernhardt as we discuss the news and views of the day! Difficulty discourse, Borderlands 3, Anthem, and the games we are playing! A new show is born on the NC flagship, and we all celebrate accordingly (Randy Pitchford not invited).  Follow Jon @jonbernhardt; follow me @hegelbon; and follow the lovely producer Julian @thirdsecond and @atsband  And there's even more on the patreon! Patreon.com/nocartridgeSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:19:0711/04/2019
Episode 116: Repeat an Action Until it Becomes Meaningful w/ Henrique Antero

Episode 116: Repeat an Action Until it Becomes Meaningful w/ Henrique Antero

We welcome the wonderful Henrique Antero to the show to talk about his games writing, the conceptual apparatus of language, and of course the philosophical implications of Super Hexagon. Trust me, this is the episode for you diehard Kierkegaardians (and for those of you who love a deeper discussion)!For more from Henrique, check out https://henriqueantero.contently.com/ and @herniquetxt on twitter!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:00:4002/04/2019
Episode 115: Boring Guys in Fighting Games, Liv talks to That Kid!

Episode 115: Boring Guys in Fighting Games, Liv talks to That Kid!

Special Liv only episode as she speaks to the irrepressible That Kid (@itisthatkid) about gaming, music, childhood, arcades, and much much more! Don't miss this, as you get a much needed break from that *other* host!For more this week, subscribe to the patreon at patreon.com/nocartridgeFor more from Liv, check @aveyclubFor more from That Kid, check @itisthatkidFor more from producer Julian, check @thirdsecond and @atsbandAnd for more from our daring social media magnate, check @nocartridge.Also @prodigis and @hegelbon are somewhere in the mix too.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:02:0826/03/2019
Episode 114: We Need to Drive People Crazy with Pedro Paiva

Episode 114: We Need to Drive People Crazy with Pedro Paiva

We welcome Pedro Paiva, Brazilian videogame auteur and creator of Mario Empalado, Carrocracia, Text-Based Contra, and Esses Games Violentos: Proibidão! Politics, design, aesthetics, theory -- this one has it all!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:09:0319/03/2019
Episode 113: I'm So Sorry for Your Codebase w/Dante Douglas

Episode 113: I'm So Sorry for Your Codebase w/Dante Douglas

We welcome Dante "VideoDante" Douglas on the show to talk about Anthem, arena shooters, his own work, characters in gaming and more! A wide-ranging episode you can't miss.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:13:5412/03/2019
Live Week Bonus: No Cartridge After Dark with Liv and Josh Sawyer, Free!

Live Week Bonus: No Cartridge After Dark with Liv and Josh Sawyer, Free!

Breaking one out from the patreon vaults in honor of our live show on 3/9, this is a classic After Dark episode with Liv (@aveyclub) and I hosting Josh Sawyer (@jesawyer). Hear where it all began!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:24:4803/03/2019
Episode 112: No Kingdom, No Heart for Existential Dread w/ Natalie Watson

Episode 112: No Kingdom, No Heart for Existential Dread w/ Natalie Watson

We welcome Waypoint's Natalie Watson on the podcast to talk Undertale, Kingdom Hearts, lore, existentialism, and why we play games in the first place!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
59:3227/02/2019
Episode 111: Parasocial Drinkers w/ Shannon Strucci

Episode 111: Parasocial Drinkers w/ Shannon Strucci

We welcome Shannon Strucci, YouTube's own, on the show to talk about her video series Fake Friends on parasocial relationships, the way they inform the strange connections we have to perfect strangers, and how gaming plays into this odd modern problem!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:24:1819/02/2019
Episode 110: No Gaming After Adulthood with Theo!

Episode 110: No Gaming After Adulthood with Theo!

We welcome Boonta Vista's own Theo @aynrandy to talk about the nature of gaming when you have responsibilities outside of gaming, how games respect your time, how they do not, and what academia is actually like (it's bad).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:32:4812/02/2019
Episode 109: Bioshock Althusser: Detournement with Ben

Episode 109: Bioshock Althusser: Detournement with Ben

We welcome Ben, otherwise known as @benicus_rex on the show to talk about Bioshock: Infinite and his recent academic work on this controversial title. A heady and book club worthy episode, to be sure!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:09:2304/02/2019
Episode 108: Oh Yeah That Was Huge! Def Jam: Fight for New York Competitive

Episode 108: Oh Yeah That Was Huge! Def Jam: Fight for New York Competitive

We welcome Joey Bag O'donuts, GK, and Chris Princler to talk about building, expanding, and all-in-all embodying the competitive Def Jam: Fight For New York competitive scene. The birth of competition!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:13:3629/01/2019
State of the Podcast (Intermission)

State of the Podcast (Intermission)

Friends, gather round while I, your noble leader, tell some upcoming truths and futures about the podcast you know and love -- also, about this podcast, No Cartridge.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
07:3425/01/2019
Episode 107: The Theme is Dragons with Malcolm Pierce

Episode 107: The Theme is Dragons with Malcolm Pierce

We welcome Malcolm Pierce to the show to discuss his work in gaming, his experiences with development, and his upcoming visual novel from Woodsy Studio!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:43:4818/01/2019
Episode 106: Critical Support for Darth Plagueis w Luke

Episode 106: Critical Support for Darth Plagueis w Luke

We welcome Luke @lukeisamazing back to talk about, what else, Star Wars as he gets set to start his new prequel podcast with Kelsey Atherton! An absolute joy for fans of the space opera and regular opera alike (source?)Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
59:1318/01/2019
Episode 105: The Transformative Nature of Speedruns with John Donahue

Episode 105: The Transformative Nature of Speedruns with John Donahue

Just in time for AGDQ, we welcome John Donohue on the show to talk about speedrunning, the appeal of the spectacle, and the way it creates a uniquely cooperative social space!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:10:2708/01/2019
Episode 104: Saying the Quiet Part Quiet

Episode 104: Saying the Quiet Part Quiet

Solo episode this week! I talk The Messengeer, EDF 4.1, and the ways games and art get politics across when it is and isn't literally in the work itself.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
32:4524/12/2018
Episode 103: The Curious Case of Paul Walker-Emig and the Return of the Obra Din

Episode 103: The Curious Case of Paul Walker-Emig and the Return of the Obra Din

We welcome Utopian Horizon's own Paul Walker-Emig on the show to talk about a game that's not so much a game but a detective simulator, The Return of the Obra Dinn! Plus, Paul talks Discworld: Noir, which shouldn't be missed.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:02:3320/12/2018
Episode 102: Inside the Comic's Studio with Michael Kupperman

Episode 102: Inside the Comic's Studio with Michael Kupperman

We welcome Michael Kupperman, comic artist extraordinaire, to the show to talk gaming, kids, cliques, and fandom -- with, of course, a lot of conversation about his impressive catalogue of work!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
57:1507/12/2018
Episode 101: Destiny For Dummies with Ian @ianperialism

Episode 101: Destiny For Dummies with Ian @ianperialism

We didn't stop at 100! And now, in a week where a new Destiny 2 season is launching and new DLC is forthcoming, we have Discourse Collective veteran Ian on to talk to us about all things Destiny lore. Get the real scoop.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:16:0028/11/2018
Episode 100!! The Return of Alex Navarro

Episode 100!! The Return of Alex Navarro

For this milestone episode, we welcome back our very first ever guest, Giant Bomb's Alex Navarro! We talk Red Dead 2, Extra Life drumming, the podcast, gaming journalism, and we get an oral history of Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:24:0916/11/2018
No Cartridge LIVE with Scott Benson

No Cartridge LIVE with Scott Benson

I am thrilled to finally debut -- as part one of our episode 100 spectacular -- the live show at Caveat NYC with Scott Benson! Sword and Sworcery, Katamari Damacy, a special call in Q&A -- it's all here!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:17:4613/11/2018
No Cartridge After Dark BONUS: Wheatus After Dark

No Cartridge After Dark BONUS: Wheatus After Dark

Olivia (@spookyoolong) and I welcome Brendan B Brown from Wheatus onto After Dark in our first (and perhaps ONLY) free episode! We try to get over being deeply star struck, and talk videogames, brothers, amps, music and more!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:31:4409/11/2018
Episode 99: Modding as a Kind of Praxis with Thumblesteen

Episode 99: Modding as a Kind of Praxis with Thumblesteen

We welcome Fallout modder and all-around impressive leftist organizer Thumblesteen to the show to talk about disability, modding politics, and how effective organizing starts with camaraderie.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:05:0807/11/2018
No Cartridge Patreon Unlock: Leon "leyawn" Chang on his Music

No Cartridge Patreon Unlock: Leon "leyawn" Chang on his Music

Free to non-subscribers for the first time! We were lucky enough to get Leon Chang, also known as @leyawn back on the show to talk about his remarkable work as a composer of electronic music.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:01:3031/10/2018
Episode 98: Rockstar, Red Dead Redemption 2, Crunch, and Pierre Bourdieu

Episode 98: Rockstar, Red Dead Redemption 2, Crunch, and Pierre Bourdieu

Solo episode this week as I delve into the controversies around labor treatment at Rockstar and think about games in the vein of Pierre Bourdieu and Restricted Fields. A unique approach on a crowded topic!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
29:5425/10/2018
Episode 97.5: An Afternoon With Adi Shankar!

Episode 97.5: An Afternoon With Adi Shankar!

We welcome Adi Shankar, producer of the Castlevania Netflix original series, The Grey, and the upcoming film Bodied! We talk production, inspiration, Halo, gaming, and much much more. Absolute podcast verite, a low-fi overheard call on a subway car.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
28:4117/10/2018
Episode 97: Bash Bash Revolution with Doug Lain!

Episode 97: Bash Bash Revolution with Doug Lain!

We welcome Doug Lain, prolific author and big wheel at Zero Books to talk about his newest novel, his experience with older senses of technology, apocalypse, utopia, and communism!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
58:0716/10/2018
Episode 96: Fortnite Dads Unite with Charles!

Episode 96: Fortnite Dads Unite with Charles!

We welcome Charles @ugarles onto the show to discuss Fortnite, why kids enjoy videogames, what exactly dads are up to as regards these videogames, and why the fish costume is so damn desirable!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:09:1409/10/2018
Announcement: Live Show!!

Announcement: Live Show!!

There's a No Cartridge Live Show! It's in New York City at Caveat NYC on October 27th at 4PM! Scott Benson will be there! I hope you will be too!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
00:5103/10/2018
Epidsode 95: The Better Translation with Alex Degen

Epidsode 95: The Better Translation with Alex Degen

We welcome artist and translator Alex Degen on the show to talk about, well, a lot of stuff from comics, to RPGs, to gaming origins, to the nature of narrative. It's a wild ride, you're gonna love it.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:44:2901/10/2018
Episode 94: Your Own Personal Torture with Spencer Hall

Episode 94: Your Own Personal Torture with Spencer Hall

We welcome SBNation and EDSBS bigwig and all around nice college football man Spencer Hall on the podcast to talk about gaming late in life, college football, and the way games and the way we respond to them tell us about ourselves.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:39:2625/09/2018
Episode 93: Buying and Selling Yourself In Game

Episode 93: Buying and Selling Yourself In Game

It's just me this week! That's right, the long promised solo episode considering precarity, scarcity, the gig economy and Recettear. A mix between a book club and an anime retreat, this is one you shouldn't miss!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
31:0717/09/2018
Episode 92: WoW Forever with Tony Palumbi

Episode 92: WoW Forever with Tony Palumbi

We welcome Tony Palumbi on the show to talk about the new WoW expansion, just why people play MMOs, what's going on with Destiny 2, and more!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:12:3210/09/2018
Episode 91: Warcraft (2016) Part Two

Episode 91: Warcraft (2016) Part Two

Welcome to a very special No Cartridge, wherein me, Olivia @spookyoolong, Michael @michaelfilm94 Lattimer, and Kevin @swearsayer tackle the modern cinematic triumph WARCRAFT (2016).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:20:3004/09/2018
Episode 91: Warcraft (2016) Part 1

Episode 91: Warcraft (2016) Part 1

Welcome to a very special No Cartridge, wherein me, Olivia @spookyoolong, Michael @michaelfilm94 Lattimer, and Kevin @swearsayer tackle the modern cinematic triumph WARCRAFT (2016).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
53:3104/09/2018
Episode 90: We're Gonna Go Beyond This w/ Ian Borsuk

Episode 90: We're Gonna Go Beyond This w/ Ian Borsuk

We welcome Ian Borsuk to talk about games and the ecology and leftism -- a deeply underserved topic and a fascinating and sprawling discussion. Alt-right speculation included.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
01:17:0320/08/2018
Episode 89: News From the Front with Alex Pareene

Episode 89: News From the Front with Alex Pareene

We welcome Alex Pareene, fresh from being bought out in what is now the third or fourth most recent online media venture capital nightmare, to talk about the news, writing in gaming, and why Grim Fandango and the 3DS are dad magnets.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/no-cartridge-audio/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
52:5906/08/2018