Stéphane Joanis started his career as a Chemical Engineer. It is with Thermo Fisher that he got involved in business and pricing, and just this January, Stephane launched his own consulting business which he calls SJ Performance, LLC. This is where he practices his expertise in B2B Instrumentation Pricing as he and his team provides coaching to help you build a strong pricing culture in a way that provides confidence and leads to trust. In this episode, Stéphane educates us on the importance of achieving organizational transformation in a company as you value the trust in the relationship you have with your customers.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: The importance of having people from different functional groups to talk about and practice value-based pricing and keep each other in check How the creation of strategies that inspire trust with your customers help your sales velocity to go up The power organizational transformation has in shifting from conventional pricing practices to having a value-based mindset in pricing   “The data is a means to the answer, towards getting insights. But it’s a foundation. Only data can trump politics. So, I think it's important to get your data and extract value from that data. Out of the specifications, go and get what is that value to your customer.” – Stéphane Joanis   Topics Covered: 01:40 – How Stephane got into pricing; the importance of trust 03:32 – On building trust: Attack the processes, not the people 05:55 – Starting his business to guide people towards organizational transformation 06:28 – What organizational transformation is all about 08:56 – The trick to see something as a loss vs. as a gain 11:13 – How to help people have a value-based mindset: Specification language vs. value language 14:00 – Talking to customers and splitting up win-loss 16:07 – Formula of sales velocity and how that relates to trust 19:31 – “I will raise your price to the extent that I'm not breaking your trust” 23:12 – Intuitive/statistical hearing as a way to talk to customers 25:01 – Stéphane’s pricing advice   Key Takeaways: “Everybody has a different point of view. There's so much psychology behind it. As you pointed out, there's a trust element. We have to agree to disagree. We have to have a certain level of trust, because everybody has a different objective with price. And so, how do you get everybody together, and how do you get prices aligned between them? It requires a certain level of trust if you want to do it well.” – Stéphane Joanis “That's the key to organizational transformation. It's not just about a process; it's about the people as well.” – Stéphane Joanis “You have to show what the customer is losing for them to truly appreciate what you have to offer and the value of your product and service.” – Stéphane Joanis “There's a price to trust.” – Stéphane Joanis   People / Resources Mentioned: SJ Performance, LLC: https://sjperformancecoach.com/ Pricing with Confidence: 10 Ways to Stop Leaving Money on the Table: https://www.amazon.com/Pricing-Confidence-Leaving-Money-Table/dp/0470197579 SPIN Selling by Neil Rackham: https://www.amazon.com/SPIN-Selling-Neil-Rackham/dp/0070511136 Selling Value by Mark Stiving: https://www.amazon.com/Selling-Value-Deals-Higher-Prices/dp/1737655217 The Speed of Trust by Stephen Covey: https://www.speedoftrust.com/#the-book Data and/or Value (blog): https://impactpricing.com/blog/data-and-or-value/ Focus on insights and not data (blog): https://www.sjperformancecoach.com/blog/focus-on-insights-and-not-data   Connect with Stéphane Joanis: Website:https://sjperformancecoach.com/ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/st%C3%A9phane-joanis-6509921a/ Email: [email protected]   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on April 6, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/best-example-for-costs-dont-drive-pricing/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

It's true, value-based pricing is the optimal pricing strategy. Value-based pricing simply means charge what our customers are willing to pay. If a customer is willing to pay us a hundred dollars, the best we could possibly do as a company is to charge that customer a hundred dollars. If we charge less, we left money on the table. If we charge more, the customer doesn't buy. So, it's impossible to do better than value-based pricing. Now, I'll agree, it's impossible to do value-based pricing perfectly, which we'll talk about next week. But understand, adopt the mindset of how is it that we can always focus on how much our customer is willing to pay, how much value our customer is receiving, and that's the absolute best we can do at setting and trying to capture pricing. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This impactful insight came from the book, Selling Value, which I wrote to help salespeople win more deals at higher prices. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

Ed Arnold works as an Advisor at Ibbaka, a software provider for high growth companies that helps optimize planning and execution of key growth initiatives while improving company performance. He was the VP of Products at LeveragePoint for 10 years, and was able to work with the pricing legend, Tom Nagle. In this episode, Ed talks about the future of value-based pricing in the subscription economy as he discusses how product-led growth companies achieve their initial growth which later on leads to big wins.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Understand why pricing in value is the key in very clever segmentation in terms of creating user profiles in the market; Find out how product-led growth companies grow from being a small enterprise to being loved by a bigger market Discover companies that are product-led growth businesses and realize how much they’ve grown since day one   “Understand how your customer gets value from using your product, not from buying it; not in terms of what the product offering is in terms of features, but how they actually use it.”  – Ed Arnold   Topics Covered: 01:03 – Who is Tom Nagle? 01:41 – How Ed got into pricing + creating a tool and working with Tom Nagle 03:07 – Explaining what LeveragePoint is 03:50 – Future of value-based pricing in subscription: Value as a differentiator in the market 07:11 – Buying vs. negotiating a price: Knowing what you’re after 11:43 – Product-led growth practice as a brilliant strategy for business 13:55 – What Ed and everybody else likes about PLG – instant gratification 17:43 – Life-changing benefits of Slack 19:15 – Aligning pricing metrics 21:34 – Why usage-based pricing frustrates Mark 23:41 – Changing and having more than one pricing metric 27:13 – Ed’s piece of pricing advice for the listeners 28:06 – What Ed thinks about behavioral economics   Key Takeaways: “If you're thinking about what sort of animal you're hunting in the enterprise game, those are the whales. I think value is the only way you can differentiate yourself in the enterprise market.” – Ed Arnold “No corporate buyer ever heard of Slack until thousands of people in their company were already using it. So, in a sense, the business employee is a consumer, and that's how product-led growth companies are getting that initial growth. They're making it so ridiculously easy for people to start using it before the corporate procurement folks or even IT departments have any idea that they're using it. That's what makes that model so, so attractive for investors.” – Ed Arnold “We like to talk about three types of metrics. And you got to link those three together. Ideally, if you can link those three together, you're in Nirvana, because your price is aligned with value and it's aligned with usage and everything is great.” – Ed Arnold “When it's the right thing to do, and it makes sense, it does pay dividends. But it's tough. And I think it's really a leap of faith and doing it.” – Ed Arnold   People / Resources Mentioned: Ibbaka: https://www.ibbaka.com/ The Strategy and Tactics of Pricing by Tom Nagle: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1138737518/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tpbk_p1_i0 Monitor: https://www2.deloitte.com/global/ LeveragePoint: https://www.leveragepoint.com/ Salesforce: https://www.salesforce.com/ Slack: https://www.slack.com/ Calendly: https://calendly.com/ Zoom: https://www.zoom.us/   Connect with Ed Arnold: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edarnold1/   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on March 30, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/shrinkflation-the-hidden-price-increase/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

Boy, there's no way I can completely explain this impactful insight in a brief conversation. But understand, if we can get our salespeople to shift from talking about our features and pushing our products to instead selling the value of our products to our marketplace, our salespeople learn to talk about the problems that we're going to solve, the results that our buyers are going to expect to achieve, this does magic in terms of the sales cycle and the end of the sale. Because when we truly resonate with our buyers and their problems and hoped for results, we're going to win more deals. We're probably going to win more deals even at higher prices, which is the key point. And if buyers are truly comfortable, they'll make decisions faster, shortening our sales cycle, and once we learn to think this way, we can look for buyers who have those problems. Selling value seems to be this magic elixir to driving up ASP's, revenue, and profit. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This impactful insight came from the book, Selling Value, which I wrote to help salespeople win more deals at higher prices. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

Orvel Ray Wilson is co-author of the book, “Guerilla Selling”, and five other books in the “Guerilla Marketing” series, the best-selling marketing series in history. He is a Certified Speaking Professional, a coach to those who want to build their practice as an author, a speaker, and a thought leader. Through The Guerilla Group, he helps professionals build and grow their business by focusing on writing, stagecraft, and marketing. Orvel Ray is Mark Stiving’s personal business coach. In this episode, Mark and Orvel Ray talk about the former’s newly released book, Selling Value, as they both share stories in all ways connected to his account.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Learn about the importance of translating what matters to your customer into something of real value, like measurable dollars Discover what the book, Selling Value, is trying to show salespeople Find out how the Guerilla series was able to move a lot of people, including product managers, product marketing, and other VAs   “If you're closing more than about 70% of your opportunities, you're not charging enough.” – Orvel Ray Wilson   Topics Covered: 01:55 – The story of how Mark and Orvel Ray met 02:40 – Working with Mark for his book, Selling Value: Taking note of what’s important to your customers 06:19 – What the book is showing salespeople how to do + how the ‘Will I? In which one?’ concept came to exist 10:03 – Orvel Ray’s friend, Jordan, who was able to close an $85,000 deal as he learns from Mark’s book 14:59 – Why should salespeople and pricing people care about selling value? 18:14 – Send Orvel Ray a message and get one free hour of free consultation on how to become a speaker and/or an author. 19:20 – Orvel Ray’s piece of pricing advice 21:43 – What anchoring is all about   Key Takeaways: “Salespeople need to understand how this really works, not only to convey and do the math and show them that this is a good investment, but to do that in terms that are important to them.” – Orvel Ray Wilson “I might have 100 good reasons why you should buy my product, but your decision is going to hinge on the three or four reasons that you think are important. And if you can isolate what those are and sell to those, then two things happen – one, the sales process is a lot simpler, and your offering is going to be irresistible.” – Orvel Ray Wilson, Guerilla Selling “Many times, we fail, we lose the sale, not because our product isn't a good fit, or because we don't have superior technology, or aggressive pricing, but simply because we haven't got the customer to make the ‘will I?’ decision in the first place.” – Orvel Ray Wilson “Just putting this technology in the hands of your sales team is going to make an immediate and measurable impact, as I've already said, and certainly more so than any other sales book I've read recently; and I've read them all.” – Orvel Ray Wilson “Build value, include everything, load up the table like it's Thanksgiving dinner, and then if you have to talk about reducing your fees, you can take things off the table and still defend your value.” – Orvel Ray Wilson   People / Resources Mentioned: Selling Value: https://www.amazon.com/Selling-Value-Deals-Higher-Prices/dp/1737655217/ Houghton Mifflin:https://www.hmhco.com/ Guerilla Selling: https://www.amazon.com/Guerrilla-Selling-Unconventional-Weapons-Increasing/dp/0395578205/ Impact Pricing: https://www.amazon.com/Impact-Pricing-Blueprint-Driving-Profits/dp/1483489701/ Patricia Fripp: https://www.youtube.com/user/PatriciaFripp   Connect with Orvel Ray Wilson: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/orvelray/ Email: [email protected] Website: https://guerrillagroup.com/   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on April 20, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/selling-value/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

It's absolutely true, people don't buy products, they buy solutions to problems. When we talk about our products, when we talk about our features, that doesn't truly resonate in the minds of our buyers. Instead, what we need to be doing is talking about the problems that we're going to solve as well as the results a buyer might achieve. When we can capture their attention, recognizing the fact that they have a problem and getting them to agree that they have that problem, and then describing the results they might be able to achieve by solving that problem, now we're getting their attention. These are things they can truly value. And by the way, maybe we're solving more problems than they originally thought they were when they were looking for a product like ours. When we truly understand problems and results for our marketplace, and we can talk to our customers that way, our customers then perceive a lot more value, which means we can win these deals at higher prices. And that's really the whole point. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This impactful insight came from the book, Selling Value, which I wrote to help salespeople win more deals at higher prices. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

Jon Barker has been involved in managing government contracts from the supplier side his entire career. He started a company called PTW Solutions, where PTW means Price To Win, and they help companies win government contracts. Jon is an avid coach and he's coached both lacrosse and soccer. When coaching, Jon fosters a team environment, while learning the strengths and weaknesses of each individual to build up skills and confidence. In this episode, Jon talks about government contracting as he puts emphasis on why the government’s focus is set on cost-plus.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Learn how pricing runs in government contracting Discover what a “probability of win” means and why you should focus on deals with higher “probability of win” Find out resources you can visit as you look for data of your competitors’ prices   “Create your own internal models of the data that you use a lot to make those decisions, and have the ability to make the levers change easily. I think as a government contracting pricer, it would be extremely beneficial.” – Jon Barker   Topics Covered: 01:36 – The start of Jon’s pricing journey for government contractors 04:39 – Small businesses having more volatility with government contracting if compared to large companies 08:10 – What’s a P-win + what Jon loves about the field he’s in 09:23 – Best value tradeoffs; putting energy into writing proposals for deals of higher p wins 14:23 – Position, Plan, and Price to Win; Government contracting as an interesting field 17:37 – Go-to’s of a data guy: GSA price list, GSA Calc, STARS III, SAM, USA Spending 22:25 – Jon’s passion for government contracting 24:44 – Jon’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “Here's the beauty of it. When you're talking with larger companies, those rates are set. When you're talking to smaller companies, they have a lot more flexibility. They're not on the radars of these agencies… The smaller you are, the more of an art it is to be able to be clever with the numbers and figure out where you can ship those costs.” – Jon Barker “As you add layers and layers of contracts that you win, you have more capabilities. The biggest thing about winning contracts is being able to successfully execute them.” – Jon Barker “Section M (evaluation criteria) is probably your most important section in terms of how to create a winning bid and how to tailor your technical and your pricing strategies in order to maximize that probability of win.” – Jon Barker “The government customers’ so huge, and there's so many different facets to it. There's plenty of other work to be had there. Don't get focused on, again, losing efforts to where the evaluators are not going to find the value in your offering, because you're not set up to be successful for that.” – Jon Barker “Pricing is just a fascinating topic; it’s very psychological, as you know. But in government procurement, it's very much cost-plus based, because the government expects to understand how companies came up with the rates that they bid.” – Jon Barker   People / Resources Mentioned: PTW Solutions Inc.: https://price-to-win.com/ CPARS: https://www.cpars.gov/ GSA Calc: https://calc.gsa.gov/ STARS III: https://www.gsa.gov/technology/technology-purchasing-programs/governmentwide-acquisition-contracts/8a-stars-iii SAM: https://sam.gov/ USA Spending: https://www.usaspending.gov/ Federal Acquisition Regulation: https://www.gsa.gov/policy-regulations/regulations/federal-acquisition-regulation-far   Connect with Jon Barker: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-barker-4648b84/ Telephone: 571-216-9890 Website: https://price-to-win.com/   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on March 23, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/peloton-tests-new-pricing-model/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

It really is fascinating that experts can translate our features into our benefits. And oftentimes as salespeople, as pricing people, as product managers or product marketers, we are experts in our own products. We think about a feature and we can automatically understand what those benefits are that our customers are going to achieve. But do our customers understand those benefits? And if they're experts then sure they do, but aren't we all trying to win new business? Aren't we all trying to find customers who are just getting into the product category, who are choosing between our products and our competitor's products? In these cases, our customers might know what the features are but they don't truly understand the benefits they should expect to receive. Imagine you've never, ever used a computer before and some salesperson tells you, yeah, this one has a terabyte static DRAM. You're thinking, okay, who cares? They have to be able to translate it into benefits. And so often when we speak to our potential buyers, we're speaking to them in the things that we think are so meaningful, our features, but they can't translate that into their benefits. If we truly want them to get the value of our products, we have to do the translation. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This impactful insight came from my book, Selling Value, which was written to help salespeople win more deals at higher prices. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

DeAnn Hammer is the Global Pricing Operations Manager at 3M, an industrial machinery manufacturing company that innovates with purpose and uses science every day to create real impact in every life around the world. She was originally a Marketing Manager in 3M. DeAnn was the valedictorian of her high school senior graduating class In this episode, DeAnn shares how she does the work of simplifying prices in a way that your customer understands as she puts emphasis on having not to negotiate once it’s properly done.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Find out why it’s a game-changer move for you to make buying a B2C experience for clients in a world of B2B; Discover how simplifying pricing removes the need for negotiating prices in the market; and Understand how price simplification unwinds the complexity in pricing   “If you make customers wait, you're going to lose the sale. Process and simplicity are going to allow you to grow your business even on really mature products.”  – DeAnn Hammer   Topics Covered: 01:53 – How DeAnn got into pricing; DeAnn as a market development manager 03:07 – Marketers overpricing and underpricing their products 06:34 – The difference between the roles of a pricing manager and a pricing operations manager 08:09 – Activating pricing and making it a B2C experience in a B2B world 12:36 – Houses and cars as the only things consumers negotiate for 15:15 – Unwinding the complexity in pricing through price simplification 21:00 – Determining what’s wrong with Mark’s strategy 23:34 – Having to make tradeoffs by trying to get rid of negotiated deals 25:32 – DeAnn’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “You do a lot of insights work in marketing and you're gathering that information about customers’ willingness to pay, but there's also really bad questioning and marketing insights. What people tell you during insights isn't always what they mean, so you really need to pay attention to that willingness to pay and the value the product gives.” – DeAnn Hammer “Activating pricing and making it a B2C experience in a B2B world; I actually think that's how we can grow.” – DeAnn Hammer “I really think businesses have to start thinking about things that are easy, things that people understand, things that they have the data for, how can they just buy those, versus those things that are really perceived as having a much higher value in the idea that it should be negotiated. I think there's a line there about what should be negotiated and what shouldn't be.” – DeAnn Hammer “There was a time where you had to walk into a bank. There was a time you had to wait for an answer. And that's no longer the culture that we live in; we want that instant gratification.” – DeAnn Hammer “Keep it simple. Get the price out there. Let them buy it.” – DeAnn Hammer   People / Resources Mentioned: 3M: https://www.3m.com/ Kelley Blue Book: https://www.kbb.com/ Carvana: https://www.carvana.com/   Connect with DeAnn Hammer: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deann-hammer-4360a2a/   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on March 16, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/pricing-people-shouldnt-set-prices/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Usually, when we think about creating a new business model, it revolves around pricing. It often revolves around, what are we going to charge for? If you think about what Netflix did when they first launched, you may recall Blockbuster was renting movies by the night, they were charging late fees. Most of their profit came from their late fees. Netflix on the other hand decided to offer a subscription where you could have one, two, or three DVDs at your house at any point in time, and you just paid a flat monthly fee. There were no late fees. What they did was changed the business model. They changed the pricing model. Now, how does this help everyone? Well, it helps everyone in the sense that now there's a group of people who prefer the subscription to the daily rental and they can go subscribe. We didn't eliminate one, although eventually, we did, but we didn't eliminate one, we just said let's offer more options to the marketplace. But in this case, especially the Netflix versus Blockbuster case, it was such a powerful thing that it really did eliminate the daily rental business. So they changed an entire industry. Take a moment. Step back. Think about how your customers really get value from your products, what they truly value, and can you change your business model to make your customers happier about the way they pay for your products? You might change your own industry. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

Jon Jennings is the Founder and Managing Partner of Jennings Executive Search, LLC. Jon is an official sponsor of this podcast. He began his career with a boutique recruiting firm, building relationships with C-Level accounting and finance professionals utilizing a research-based approach of study and analysis to best serve his clients. In 2012, Jon took this approach to a larger firm where he worked with several CFOs to build entire accounting and finance departments and gain a large firm perspective in how to build a successful practice. This experience led to the creation of Jennings Executive Search, LLC. In this episode, Jon discusses the current situation of the pricing market, specifically focusing on how things have developed since the pandemic began.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Discover how the market has been like since the beginning of this pandemic; Learn about the difference of hybrid, in office, and at home settings, as well as how this difference influence today’s job search; and Find out why those people who are willing to learn the soft skills of pricing are the ones who are more likely to be promoted in a company   “The people who get to move up are people who are adamant. They're persistent. They're not afraid to be uncomfortable in an uncomfortable conversation.” – Jon Jennings   Topics Covered: 01:28 – The market’s situation since the pandemic began 04:17 – Talking about the expansion of pricing 06:01 – Everyone trying to figure out how to raise prices and putting hyper focus on it 08:49 – Are pricing people getting paid a lot more now than they were a year ago? 12:18 – Companies still not investing in pricing 14:48 – Are the requirements changing for pricing people? 18:35 – Those who are willing to learn make the biggest impact in a company 20:27 – How the difference between hybrid, in office, and at home settings influence today’s jobs 24:29 – Jon’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “What's really happening in pricing has been happening for a long time, which is it's expanding; there's more jobs in pricing, and kind of separate to the current economic phenomena that we've seen over the last few years, it's been a space that's grown.” – Jon Jennings “There's a lot of openings in pricing and it's hard to find qualified people for them at the moment.” – Jon Jennings “I call it fittest athletes search. We just find the person that's most capable and learn the fastest and can just solve problems, solve business problems; they'd like to get in the business and figure things out and communicate cross functionally. Those are the traits I like to look for.” – Jon Jennings “The really good ones have a creative type of mind; not just they're good at analytics, but they have that creative side turned on and they can communicate very well. It's like yet to be everything at the same time. Those people are really impactful.” – Jon Jennings “You have to articulate the right way, that's digestible and understandable, and you got to win that meeting; and that's where you have to sell yourself, your abilities, all the time. That's really what makes you promotable.” – Jon Jennings “The way to have a big impact on your career is always selling. There's never a perfect solution; there's better and best. When you have something, be confident and don't back down. The squeaky wheel gets grease.” – Jon Jennings   People / Resources Mentioned: McKinsey: https://www.mckinsey.com/ Bain: https://www.bain.com/ BCG: https://www.bcg.com/ KPMG: https://home.kpmg/ Simon Kucher: https://www.simon-kucher.com/   Connect with Jon Jennings: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonjennings/ Email: [email protected]   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on March 9, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/the-value-of-teachers-vs-athletes/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Let's face it, pricing people, we're typically smart. We have to interact and interface with lots and lots of different departments. But we rarely have the authority to make decisions that impact the entire company. These decisions could be changing pricing strategies, changing pricing metrics, focusing on market segments that we're going to go target. It could be getting product people to use value as they make decisions on which products to buy, or marketing people to document what value looks like as they're doing their marketing messages, teaching salespeople how to sell value. All of these are crucial when it comes to us helping the company win more deals at higher prices, but we don't have authority. What we do have is the knowledge typically to help these things happen. The only people in the company who have the authority to force these things through, to convince people who might be reluctant to say, "Yes, okay, let's go try it," are executives. If we don't have executives driving pricing initiatives, or even better yet, driving a culture of value. If our executives aren't doing this, we're leaving significant money on the table because there are lots of opportunities for us to go increase profit, we just don't have the authority. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

Gerald Smith is a Professor of Marketing at Boston College. He's been a Pricing Consultant with Strategic Pricing Group and Monitor Group since 1987. Gerald is the author of a relatively new book, “Getting Price Right: The Behavioral Economics of Profitable Pricing”. In this episode, Gerald discusses the power psychology holds in pricing in relation to behavioral economics as he talks about the soft side of pricing alongside the importance of framing.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Find out what the hard side and soft side of pricing are all about, and why the behavioral side of pricing is more powerful than the logical side Understand why companies do framing, as well as why a frame of reference is important in pricing Discover why there’s power in psychology when talking about behavioral economics   “Ask yourself and ask your pricing team, what do customers get and what do they pay for what they get? And say, is everybody in the industry doing it the same way?” – Gerald Smith   Topics Covered: 01:39 – The start of Gerald’s pricing journey with Thomas Nagle and Reed Holden 03:08 – Gerald talks about his dissertation in relation to his new book, Getting Price Right 04:33 – The behavioral/soft side as potentially more powerful than the logical side 06:39 – The main point of Getting Price Right – the psychology of the sellers, the people that really set price 09:11 – Talking about the dominant pricing bias of salespeople giving discounts all the time 13:07 – Pricing strategy vs. pricing orientation 15:15 – Framing as one of the foundational theories of economics 18:09 – Discussion about Apple’s pricing slogan and the company having huge margins 22:45 – The power of behavioral economics – psychology; analysis vs. gut 24:12 – Talking about frame of references and setting price metrics 27:45 – Gerald’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “We always think of pricing as a hard skill, as a quantitative skill. My students say to me, ‘Professor, tell me the formula for setting price.’ And I say, ‘No, no, no, folks.’ I mean, pricing is a soft skill that also brings in hard skills, for sure, so there are both skill sets.” – Gerald Smith “Sellers are also psychological and absolutely driven by psychology.” – Gerald Smith “One of the very dominant biases in pricing is that people have a tendency to discount price all the time. It's very irrational, and it, in fact, violates the principles of both psychology but especially economics, because economics says that people should rationally maximize the profits of the outcomes that are before them. And in the case of many people that apply this kind of discounting bias, they don't focus on the profits; they focus on the sales, and sales are not profits.” – Gerald Smith “Salespeople that work for somebody else are more likely to discount, but salespeople that do their own thing are less likely to discount. When they're selling their own place, they want to make sure that they maximize their profits if they can, but if they're selling for somebody else, they're happy to take that deal. That's because they get paid a commission on the deal. It is endemic to the world of pricing that people do this.” – Gerald Smith “Psychology is powerful. Analysis is terrific, but psychology is absolutely vital.” – Gerald Smith “Consumers or buyers give, but they also get. And so, if I can change what they get and what they give, then that can be very powerful.” – Gerald Smith   People / Resources Mentioned: Getting Price Right: The Behavioral Economics of Profitable Pricing: https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Price-Right-Behavioral-Profitable/dp/0231190700 Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything: https://www.amazon.com/Freakonomics-Economist-Explores-Hidden-Everything/dp/0060731338   Connect with Gerald Smith: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-gerald-smith-91b8383 Email: [email protected]   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on March 2, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/indirect-customer-impact/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

This one may be intuitive, may not be intuitive, but it turns out that if your fixed costs change, for whatever reason, if they go up, if they go down, it really should have no impact whatsoever on your pricing. For example, let's say you need to buy a new piece of factory equipment, and it's really expensive, and it makes your fixed cost go way up. Did buying that new piece of factory equipment for you change your customer's willingness to pay? No, it didn't. Customers are still willing to pay the same amount. They still can choose between you and a competitor. Well, did you changing your fixed costs changed the way your competitor prices for whatever reason? No, it doesn't. The only thing that matters to us when we're doing pricing is thinking about how our customers are making decisions and how we can make optimal decisions based on that. And I can assure you that your fixed costs have absolutely nothing to do with how much your customers are willing to pay. For that reason, your fixed costs never matter to pricing. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Reginald Tomas Lee is a Professor of Business Analytics at Xavier University in Cincinnati, Ohio. He has a PhD in Mechanical Engineering, and he's been involved in supply chain since ’96. Reginald’s most recent book is called Project Profitability. And one fun thing, he can't go on vacation, because he has two killer dogs. In this episode, Reginald shares wisdom with regards to the modeling he’s been making as he talks about the power of helping people understand more clearly how what it is that they do impacts cash.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Understand why you should start seeing things from a cash perspective in relation to knowing what it is that it enables you to save Learn about the difference of cash cost and non-cash cost through situational examples from real life experiences Find out how your actions and decisions impact how you generate cash in a business   “Don’t focus on accounting margins.”  – Reginald Tomas Lee   Topics Covered: 01:17 – How Reginald shifted from being a mechanical engineer to thinking about supply chains and costing 03:44 – What Reginald does: Helping people understand how their decisions impact cash 07:18 – Talking about contribution margins: Accounting for things from a cash perspective 11:09 – How to figure out the optimal price without using some measure of contribution margin 14:34 – Hope as a strategy: Mark’s opportunity cost vs. Reginald’s opportunity revenue 17:15 – Two types of costs: The cash cost and the non-cash cost 21:41 – Reginald’s sales pitch: Very specifically identifying what the savings are 24:02 – Discussion about Mark’s value table and Reginald’s improvement projects 27:59 – Projecting revenue and the uncertainty that comes with it 30:24 – Reginald’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “We should shift away from looking at accounting data and look specifically at operations and cash.” – Reginald Tomas Lee “From a cash perspective, materials and labor don't vary. When we look at contribution margins for products that we make, and we assume that those costs vary and they affect the contribution margin, my argument is they don't vary. And so therefore, it's not a reflection of cash.” – Reginald Tomas Lee “As we know, hope’s not a strategy. We’re hoping that the demand would be there, but I've seen situations, actually, where people have bought more just to get a lower price so that they can report a higher gross margin. It's not a good business decision at all. And that's why I shift over to cash, because cash will tell you don't do that, but accounting may, because I can put it in inventory.” – Reginald Tomas Lee “If you want to save money, what you have to do is basically buy fewer people. Buy four people instead of buying 10 people. Buy less capacity, then I'm spending less money.” – Reginald Tomas Lee “I focus specifically on what changes the software will enable, and then point out that if you want the cash savings, you need to make managerial decisions. You have to make a decision to get rid of the four people because the software is not going to fire them. That's what you have to do. The software is not making the cost savings happen. It's my management decision and action that was at that.” – Reginald Tomas Lee “I define efficiency as engineers do – output over input. So, if my input is my organization, what I'm spending on the organization, and the output is what it is that they can do, then what this will do is that we’ll generally allow them to either create more output with the same group, or consume less of that group to create the existing amount of output. But the size of the organization itself doesn't change until I, as a manager, change it.” – Reginald Tomas Lee “Based on how we choose to calculate this cost, that may have an impact on whether we take the business or not. So instead of focusing on accounting margins, if you can take a look at the cash impact of the decision that you make, then I think you'll be in a much better position to be able to negotiate price and feel good about taking prices that in some cases you may not have taken just because someone calculated a number that happen to be lower than someone else's calculation.” – Reginald Tomas Lee   People / Resources Mentioned: Project Profitability: https://www.amazon.com/Project-Profitability-Ensuring-Improvement-Projects/dp/1637421699 The Goal: https://www.amazon.com/Goal-Process-Ongoing-Improvement/dp/0884271951   Connect with Reginald Tomas Lee: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginaldtomas/   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on February 23, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/direct-customer-impact/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

It's true, pricing can have an instantaneous response. I often think of it as the nuclear bomb of marketing mix variables because you can change it today, impact the market immediately, and it's really hard to take it back. Now, compare that to the other marketing mix variables. If you've taken a marketing class, you know the four P's. You know the other three besides price, or your product, your place, and your promotion. Product is obviously, what are we building? The place is, what's the distribution channel look like? And then the promotion is, how are we marketing it? How are we talking about it in the marketplace? We could change our marketing. We could change our product. We could change our distribution channel. And each one of those would have an impact on our revenue, on our sales. But it takes a long time for that impact to ripple through. On the other hand, if I change price today, people will change their mind today. Some people will choose to buy, some people will choose not to buy, simply because of the price change. So price really does have the fastest impact, but it also is one of the most dangerous to use. If you're using price to gain share, you're probably just driving industry profits down. So, although it's fast, be very careful how you use it. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

Pedro Piccoli Soares is currently Senior Executive Manager of AI Pricing at SIXT, a travel arrangement / car rental company that’s known to be a provider of high-quality mobility services. He mentors startups, and has an Engineering degree. He also has a purple belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu. In this episode, Pedro shares his knowledge when it comes to behavioral economics as he and Mark talk about how it works in relation to mental accounting and pricing.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Discover why it’s important for companies to understand why they’re doing pricing and why they’re having a price change Understand why you should still be relative to your competitors’ price change even when they’ve already made the mistake of decreasing their prices Learn more about behavioral economics, its tactics, and its relationship with mental accounting and pricing   “So, we've mentioned several different effects of behavioral economics and several different examples of how they can be applied on real business. If you think about it, they were quite simple, right? It's really easy to test these kinds of things, and they can generate some really nice benefits to your company, for sure.” – Pedro Piccoli Soares   Topics Covered: 01:40 – The internship that led to Pedro’s shift from being an Engineer to doing pricing 03:09 – What Pedro loves about pricing that made him stay in it 05:34 – Why it’s important for companies to understand why they’re doing pricing and why they’re having a price change 07:38 – Being relative to competitors’ price change even when they made the wrong decision 10:20 – Talking about behavioral economics; what Mark doesn’t like about it 12:33 – Behavioral economics’ tricks: Pedro and Mark’s perspectives in relation to price endings in relation to mental accounting 18:49 – Discussion about what loss aversion is 20:38 – The use and importance of loss aversion, especially in business 23:23 – Behavioral economics and people’s buying decisions in relation to good, better, best 25:53 – Pedro’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “This is when you kind of lose the sense of why you're doing the price change. If you just follow your competition, if you don't know the reason why you're changing the prices, you can initiate a fight that in the end has no background or no reason to be happening. You are assuming that everything that they are doing is right, and that they know why they are changing prices. It might be the case, but might be the case that they are also doing something wrong and you're just following them. You need to understand your customers and what price changes will affect them. You need to have a reasoning you apply when you’re changing the price.” – Pedro Piccoli Soares “I totally agree that behavioral economics cannot generate as much value as pricing departments can generate. And it’s, on the other hand, a much nicer topic to talk about to show results. You can definitely play around and create experiments, and you can very easily show the results of a try, and it's something that calls people attention because it's actually behavior, and that's something that they do as well, right? So, everybody wants to listen and to hear about heuristics, or the mistakes, the biases that they take when they're making decisions. And that's why I think it's a topic that costs more attention than pricing.” – Pedro Piccoli Soares “When you have two different people, we have so many different characteristics that it's harder to compare. And if you have just two similar options, one, which is clearly worse than the other, you make the choice easier.” – Pedro Piccoli Soares   People / Resources Mentioned: SIXT: https://www.sixt.com/ Dan Ariely: https://danariely.com/   Connect with Pedro Piccoli Soares: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pedro-piccoli-soares/ Email: [email protected]   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on February 16, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/another-netflix-price-increase/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

The whole point of pricing, value-based pricing, is to charge what customers are willing to pay. And almost by definition, loyal customers like us more, they would be willing to pay us more. This is the big exception to the rule of charge what a customer is willing to pay. My intent when I do price segmentation and charge different customers different prices is I also want to think about the lifetime value of a customer. If you have a customer who loves you, they're very loyal to you, and yet they find out that you are charging them more than anybody else, it will upset them. You have a really high probability of losing them as a customer. And if you do, you lost the lifetime stream of value. So, my advice, treat loyal customers really, really well, and don't charge them more than other people. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

Duane Dufault is currently a Fractional CRO at Forward and is a Strategic Advisor at Abaqus Inc. Before this, he was Fractional VP of Sales at The RockED Company Inc. Duane is a dad of four lovely daughters. In this episode, Duane shares the power behind having all departments in a company understand value in order to help the customer see and understand value as well in accordance with their reasons for buying a product.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Discover why it’s important for you to teach your sales reps to unpack value and not create it Find out why it’s a must for you to help people understand what it is that they’re actually paying for upon purchasing your product Understand the reason behind having clients voice out their problem and a salesperson being able to connect the product as a solution to what a client needs to be solved   “Just make it easy, seriously. The easier you can make it for people to figure out the pricing on your product, the easier it is for them to buy. Simple.”  – Duane Dufault   Topics Covered: 01:15 – The connection between Duane’s role and pricing 02:14 – That time when Duane realized the immense need for product management to focus on pricing 05:26 – Talking about the similarities and differences of product marketing and sales roles 09:50 – Should salespeople have the authority when it comes to pricing? 14:36 – Why salespeople need to unpack value, not create it 17:12 – Reminiscing Mark’s first few years as a salesperson 18:42 – Making a difference in the market in relation to value and what the customer’s needs are 23:08 – The difference between a CRO and a VP of Sales in Duane’s perspective 25:27 – Duane’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “One of the growth levers that I was looking at is like how was pricing structured for whatever product it is because that's a really big indicator on how people are going to buy from your company. If you've got hard to understand pricing, that's a problem. And that's friction in the buying process that you need to remove.” – Duane Dufault “Product marketing and a good sales process are like two sides of the same point. It's like sales and marketing, but like, a good sales process and product marketing is so closely tied, because the questions that a good product marketer asks are a lot of the same ones you get from a sales conversation, a discovery process, and they take them down the same path. “Product marketing is fascinating from my perspective because you need to have a certain perspective on customer engagement and usage to understand how to shape and evolve both the product, the customer journey, and what they pay for the product.” – Duane Dufault “If you've got a sales rep that's very, very focused and narrow-minded on one specific area, they can't pull from other experiences.” – Duane Dufault “Teach your reps how to unpack value, not add value.” – Duane Dufault “If you come into your discovery process with a deck that just has a whole bunch of bullets of stuff that came from the marketing page, that's not a value to them. They only find it valuable when they find it valuable, and it's only valuable when it solves a problem. And you can't solve a problem until you ask him what those problems are.” – Duane Dufault “If you have a good discovery process that's focused on the needs of the buyer, you're going to help them figure out what those differences are, because people buy on an emotional trigger, and then cancellation happens when they find those little things that don't meet up with what they really want to do. In the sales process and marketing, marketing is there to take feedback from products, to then communicate what everyone gets from it, so that way, when the prospect gets the salesperson, it's the salespersons job to unpack those little things, because those little things are going to be the reason why they don't cancel in a year.” – Duane Dufault   People / Resources Mentioned: Metric Manager Playbook:https://themetricmanager.com   Connect with Duane Dufault: LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/duanedufault/ Email: [email protected]   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected] Website:https://www.duanedufault.com/  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on February 9, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/you-must-lose-on-price/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

Salespeople love them to death, however, it's more important to them to close the deal than to close it at the highest possible price. In fact, if they stay and negotiate a little bit harder, they're at risk of losing the deal. And if they lose the deal, they lose their commission. They lose the ability to reach their quotas. So, for them, their incentives are a little bit askew from what our incentives should be. And when I say our, let's say the company, the owners of the company, or us as pricing people, where we want to try to win deals at the highest possible price. So, although salespeople are really selling value and they're doing their best, in the end, price is just one of the many tools they have to try to close a deal and they're going to use every tool they have. So, I don't think salespeople should own pricing. Sure, we should give them a little bit of flexibility, a little bit of price authority to help them move deals along quicker, but to give them complete authority, probably a big mistake. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

Ray Ranga is currently the VP of Product Management at Momentive AI. Before working in Momentive, Ray was the Senior Director of Product Management at Splunk. Ray is an instructor at UC Berkeley and he also conducts a pricing class at Stanford. In this episode, Ray discusses the power behind involving the people who know the product’s value when making pricing decisions as he specifically points out the benefits of having pricing teams connect with people from the product management department.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Discover which team should own pricing in a company in relation to the value the product has; Find out how to effectively package products in a way that resonates best with what your customers want; and Understand why pricing and product management people should be one when making pricing decisions towards their product   “Understand your customers to a deep, deep level. See what gets your customer ticking, and then I'm sure everything else follows.” – Ray Ranga   Topics Covered: 01:31 – How Ray got into pricing: From being an engineer then shifting to product management 02:31 – Answering the question “who should own pricing?” 04:50 – The role of product management 05:37 – What Ray teaches in his pricing and product management/marketing class 07:43 – The difference between behavioral economics and pricing for value 10:17 – How to package products, explained in the simplest possible manner 15:44 – Why you should go for market segments first, not across market segments 18:13 – The similarities of Mark and Ray’s practices when figuring out market segments 21:42 – Talking about the presence of confidence problem with regards to charging a high price 25:01 – Ray’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “Pricing and product management need to go hand in hand.” – Ray Ranga “Product marketing is good on pricing. They understand our customers well. They understand the persona and the segment we sell into typically. I do have a bias towards who should not own pricing. I feel like finance or sales should not own pricing, for some obvious reasons. But other than that, I think product management and product marketing are fine owning pricing.” – Ray Ranga “Pricing is a number at the end of it, but it's so much more. It's so much more about operationalizing pricing, and that's where customer experience comes into play. You need the right ways to consume the price of the product that you just priced.” – Ray Ranga “Analysis and research and competitive positioning is very useful. And I think, sometimes, you should take that seriously when you have the data points in front of you.” – Ray Ranga “Enablement is very key to pricing, especially in zero to one products. You want to be with the sales team in those initial calls until they feel comfortable that they can tackle these questions about pricing in the early days.” – Ray Ranga   People / Resources Mentioned: Momentive AI:https://www.momentive.ai Splunk:https://www.splunk.com/ SurveyMonkey:https://www.surveymonkey.com/mp/enterprise/?ut_source2=en Predictably Irrational:https://danariely.com/books/predictably-irrational/ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/   Connect with Ray Ranga: LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/rayranga/ Email: [email protected]   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on February 2, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/losing-on-price-2/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on January 26, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/a-perspective-on-rfps/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

Jon Lucas started as an Accounting Manager before working as the Strategic Pricing & Business Development Manager of Cornerstone Building Brands Inc. Jon loves hiking, and he is loving it even better since he moved out of Ohio. In this episode, Jon engages in a discussion with Mark Stiving about making price changes in relation to the importance of value and volatility of costs in the market nowadays.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Discover the importance of differentiating your business with the general market when thinking about value and making price changes; Learn how you can manage cost volatility and even add value when deciding on your products’ prices; and Find out why a safe and sound relationship with the sales team is a must when you’re doing pricing   “To experienced pricing managers, structure your department, borrow what everybody else in the organization is doing and have an org chart. Put some procedures around it. It kind of sounds like common sense, but I honestly don't see that happening in pricing in a lot of organizations.” – Jon Lucas   Topics Covered: 01:21 – How Jon got into pricing; Was it about value or cost plus at first? 03:00 – Jon discusses what Cornerstone does; Thinking about value and differentiating oneself in the market 07:19 – How Jon adds value as he manages cost volatility when making prices 11:29 – Rapid cost fluctuations in the industry as an excuse to change prices frequently 12:35 – Jon talks about Cornerstone’s sales cycle 15:35 – How SAS-based programs help Jon and the company in terms of pricing 16:43 – Does Cornerstone change prices weekly? 19:04 – Jon shares what it’s like working with salespeople 21:03 – Jon’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners 22:38 – Having more things to do beyond the role in pricing; the resistance to take on pricing projects   Key Takeaways: “When costs move, we know we need to make some kind of pricing move, and it doesn't have to be the same as the cost index. Costs could go up 5%. That doesn't mean we're necessarily going to go up by 5%, because that's where we get the value.” – Jon Lucas “You can kind of use the cost fluctuation as the starting point, then we look at where the value is, and that's where we set our prices.” – Jon Lucas “If you think your competitors are only getting up: if we're making a price decisions every week and they're making price decisions once every six weeks, we've got a much better chance of capturing more margin.” – Jon Lucas “You can put some safeguards around your cost volatility to some degree with the way that you write your contracts. You can kind of do some hedging there. But you're predicting things out in the future, and it's not always going to be perfect. You just got to do the best you can.” – Jon Lucas “You could have the best pricing in the world that you want to charge, but if you can't get it to your customers in a way that works for them, then you're nowhere.” – Jon Lucas   People / Resources Mentioned: Cornerstone Building Brands Inc.: https://www.cornerstonebuildingbrands.com/ Zilliant: https://www.zilliant.com/   Connect with Jon Lucas: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-lucas-84557840/ Email: [email protected]   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on January 19, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/dont-confuse-your-buyers/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/  

I'm going to try to do a little math with you on this podcast, and imagine we have a company that normally makes a hundred million dollars in revenue. They've got costs of $90 million all in. So, they're making $10 million in profit. And that's not unrepresentative, that seems pretty reasonable for a lot of companies. But what happens if we could increase or improve our pricing by 1%? So instead of a hundred million, what if we got 101 million in revenue? Our costs don't really change so instead of 10 million in profit, now we're making 11 million in profit. That 1 million in improved pricing went straight to the bottom line. And in the example I just gave you then, a 1% improvement in pricing can lead to a 10% increase in profitability. This is huge. We should be looking for small places where we can increase pricing because every dollar, when we improve our pricing, goes straight to profitability. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Anne Warren is the Senior Director of Global Pricing at Shure – an appliances, electrical, and electronics manufacturing company that produces best-in-class audio products with high-quality performance, reliability, and value. Anne started out as an accountant and an auditor. She's been leading pricing teams for about 20 years now. In this episode, Anne shares the power behind pricing people working with sales, finance, and marketing departments in order to better market a product in a competitive market.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Discover why pricing people serve as the connector between the finance, marketing, and sales departments of a company; Understand why rapport with those internally involved in the business is essential in marketing a product; and Know how you can establish an effective rapport with other teams aside from yours through tips from an expert   “Establishing the rapport, especially with the sales and leadership team, treating your sales leaders as business partners, and make sure they know – not that you're going to necessarily agree all the time – but that they have a voice and you are going to be collaborative with them.” – Anne Warren   Topics Covered: 01:40 – From being an auditor to becoming a pricing person 03:20 – Pricing people being that connector between finance, marketing, and sales 05:41 – Learning about the need to be collaborative across these departments 06:38 – How Anne works with salespeople 08:42 – The context of Anne’s script when talking to customers 10:24 – Mark’s four points with regards to writing a price increase letter 11:09 – Why raising prices shouldn’t be an intimidating initiative 13:33 – How Anna does what needs to be done while working with finance and salespersons 14:59 – Marketing people know the value of their products better than pricing people 16:23 – Seeing the collaboration in different perspectives 18:08 – Having a value statement and being able to share it 19:35 – Product managers being too far removed from value 22:18 – Anne’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “It’s important to take yourself outside of your role as a pricing person or as a finance person, and really think and learn, most importantly, about the other person's goals.” – Anne Warren “It's the pricing person's role to be that connector between finance, marketing, and sales.” – Anne Warren “Being transparent. Don't try to hide. Don't try to be mysterious. Be honest with your customers. I think that will definitely go a long way. And the letters that go out are fine, but I think a live discussion between a salesperson and their customer works wonders as well.” – Anne Warren “You want them to feel good about their product. You want to help call out that value proposition maybe in more less technical terms, if it's a technical product, and more about the value prop to the end user customer or B2B customer. What's in it for them and how can we monetize that? Help bridge the gap to get the salespeople confident.” – Anne Warren “Never underestimate the power of a confident salesperson.” – Anne Warren “If you're starting a new job as a pricing professional, I feel strongly you also need a good relationship with finance, but the sales teams in particular, if you have good rapport with them, you're going to make huge inroads and be very successful as a pricing professional.” – Anne Warren “Try to be as natural as you can be, as open and transparent. What is your role? Your role is to be a partner. That is the first message you should deliver to establish that rapport and mean it. Be that partner and establish that early on in the relationship. That's the best thing you can do that will give you firepower for initiatives that you want to perform later on.” – Anne Warren   People / Resources Mentioned: Shure Incorporated: http://www.shure.com Ameritech / AT&T: https://www.att.com/   Connect with Anne Warren: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-warren-214ab745/ Email:[email protected]   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on January 12, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/willingness-to-accept/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

When we think about pricing, typically we have a product in hand and we say, how much does our customer value this? How much are they willing to pay? Now, we're going to put a price tag on that. And that's really important. We want to be able to do that well. And that's typically what we think of when we think of pricing. But if we take a step or two backwards in the business process, the fact that we as pricing people understand value, we understand how customers perceive value. Imagine if the product managers or developers or whoever's defining the products that we're going to build, imagine if they understood this concept of value the way we understand the concept of value. Because then they could be creating products that our customers actually value. “The less obvious but more powerful part of pricing is creating value.”  - Mark Stiving If we think about the products or the features that we create and how they drive value, we'll end up creating better products, products that our customers love more, products that we can charge more for. So, yes, product management, the creating value part, is huge. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now, go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

Shantanu Basu is currently the Senior Director of Go-To Marketing Strategy and Operations at Tanium. He was Director of Strategy and Operations at Intel for a long time, and he's part of an organization called RevGenius. Shantanu got his MBA from the University of Michigan. In this episode, Shantanu discusses value chain alignment alongside the importance of knowing what your value is and understanding what your customers think what your value is.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Discover why knowing your company’s value and understanding how your customer sees value in you when doing pricing; Understand the importance of doing things one at a time, especially when communicating about the company’s value chain; and Find out why it’s necessary for you to be able to ask the right value chain alignment questions   “When you think of yourself as a pricing professional, you're doing your pricing jobs so to speak, don't limit yourself to what somebody else might consider the definition of your job. As a pricing professional, you should be able to ask questions and articulate – if you ask the right questions; articulate the value of your product across the entire value chain.” – Shantanu Basu   Topics Covered: 01:47 – How Shantanu got into pricing alongside the discussion around capturing and communicating value 04:20 – Knowing your value vs. understanding what your customers think your value is 10:34 – How he communicates with people to help them understand how the value chain inside that company looks like 13:57 – The difference between being right and being effective in doing pricing 17:58 – How to align product positioning with packaging 22:34 – Discussion around the good, better, best framework 26:35 – Briefly talking platform pricing and how it intersects with good, better, best 30:49 – Shantanu’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “Do you understand how value is created for your product, your business, your industry? Do you know how to communicate and then, hence, capture that value? It starts and ends with value. As long as you can connect those different points along the value chain, you perhaps have something to go to market with.” – Shantanu Basu “Change comes from understanding. If I don't understand how my product positioning team and/or my sales team thinks our value is, I don't know how to influence that change, assuming I am right in understanding what the customer said.” – Shantanu Basu “Every time there is a shift to be made from our steady state, you start to ask these questions and go try to reach as far back into the value chain as you can without pissing off too many people and slowing down business. It becomes an art rather than a science.” – Shantanu Basu “Change management is not about right and wrong or numbers or the customer. It's about people and the emotions and maneuvering the informal dynamics of an organization, which I would like to think it only comes with experience.” – Shantanu Basu “Pricing isn't rocket science. Influencing change via pricing and influencing the right behavior – whether of your customer, your sales rep, your CEO, or your customer success person – is where the art comes in.” – Shantanu Basu “You don't have to be an expert in every piece of the value chain. That's not your job. There are people who will always do better than you. But stretch all the way down the value chain and all the way up the value chain and feel free and empowered to ask questions at each point so that you understand the entire value chain. Because when it comes down to this “simple piece of pricing”, your understanding across the value chain is what's going to probably provide the best results, not just coming up with a number and not just coming up with X.” – Shantanu Basu   People / Resources Mentioned: Tanium: https://www.tanium.com/ Stephanie Hallford: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-hallford-ba90732   Connect with Shantanu Basu: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/basushantanu/ Email: [email protected]   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

We all know that price is a signal of quality, but what ends up happening is, over time people learn what the true quality is, and they realize if the prices match that true quality or not. If we're able to price relative to our true quality, then all is right with our customers in their minds and they're not going to change their purchase decisions. They're more likely to stick with us. Now, what happens if we deliver a ton of quality and we charge a low price? Well, first off, maybe a lot of people aren't going to find out because they're using our price as an indicator of quality. And they say, oh, that's way too inexpensive. It's not a product that would fit my needs. So, they never learned that yours is great. Once of course, someone buys in and they start using it, then sure, they say, hey, this is a fantastic deal. Maybe they talk about it, word of mouth. The question becomes, can you get people to buy it because it's such a low price. On the other hand, let's say you charge a really high price for something. And then they take it home, they realize, oh, this really isn't worth that price. Now we get negative word of mouth. People tend not to buy. They're certainly not going to buy again.   “Price is a signal of quality.”  - Mark Stiving   It's so much easier if we could figure out what our quality levels really are and set our prices consistent with what those quality levels are. It's a great way to build a long-term sustainable business. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me [email protected]. Now go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

There's a concept in economics, behavioral economics, called reference prices. And reference prices really say our customers have some expectation about what they think they're going to pay. And if our price is below that expectation, they get a good feeling they're getting a good deal. And the fact that they're getting a good deal provides them an incentive or the good feelings that say I'm actually going to buy. Richard Thaler broke this up into two different types of utility. There's transaction utility and there's functional utility. The functional utility is the utility that someone gets from our product. It's the reason they're buying it. But transactional utility is the feelings you get when you're going to buy something. And if you walk into a store expecting to pay $20, and you find it on sale for 15, you're thinking, Hey, that's a really neat deal, I'm going to buy that. Or you're more likely to buy it. "We should be paying attention to our customer's expectations." - Mark Stiving If we have a way to control expectations, to raise expectations before they actually buy, and then we give them a price that's below those expectations, it makes it more likely they'll pull out their wallet and buy from us. We hope you enjoyed this podcast. If you see have any questions or feedback please email me [email protected].  Now go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn  

José Vela is the Director of Pricing at Spandex Barcelona, known as one of the leading suppliers of graphics and digital materials worldwide. He is a strategic and business savvy leader who empowers business development and profitability improvements for global businesses, with an expertise in directing international trade, manufacturing, and services operations. José moved into pricing after having a General Manager's role. In this episode, José talks about the importance of getting the right price in selling your services as he relates it to the change and value you’re providing to your customers.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Understand why it’s a must for you to be able to price your products and services right in relation to winning more deals even at a high price; Discover how experience adds up to a pricing person’s credibility, therefore, resulting to high rates of success in sales; and Find out how necessary it is for you to think like your customers in order to provide the best value in the market.   “You need to be able to analyze your own data in order to identify where your margin, your profitability is, what are the leakages, and then you need to act on them.” – José Vela   Topics Covered: 01:49 – Getting into the world of pricing: Winning more deals through knowing the right price 05:52 – General managers providing more credibility to the table and being able to demonstrate success through experience 09:00 – The value being present on the extended product; thinking like the customers 13:15 – Building the analytics capability to prove the impact of pricing decisions 16:49 – Why list prices matter so much 18:00 – How to effectively manage list prices in relation to the benchmarks 23:07 – José’s piece of pricing advice for today’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “Most of the time, sales people – they are driven when we are talking about pricing. They are driven by fear. They are afraid of losing the deal, losing the customer if they base off them. And if you are able to provide them data, reliable information, they feel more confident and they know that they can offer a right price and they know it right because other similar customers are paying.” – José Vela “Country managers are really competitive. We are competitive animals and we know to overperform. We want to overachieve. And if we see that some of our colleagues are succeeding, we want to know what's the deal, what's going on there, because we want to replicate this, these tools, those processes, whatever they are doing to succeed. We want to make sure that we are doing the best in order to succeed too. So, if you are able to find early adopters that are able to show and demonstrate quick wins, this also helps a lot.” – José Vela “The impact of pricing is, how do we manage the list prices? And how do we manage the discounts that we are giving to our customer? The main driver for margin value is – without any doubt – how do you manage your pricing? And if you are not able to organically growth a lot for whatever the reason, how you manage your list prices is the biggest driver to increase your revenue.” – José Vela “In general, it's not just pricing the prices. It’s making the right price. Pricing goes in two directions. It’s not only about rising prices. Sometimes, you decrease.” – José Vela “Most of the pricing initiatives, the critical piece is never the technology, or at least from my point of view, because there are different ways to do stuff, different platforms, but how do you manage the change? How do you train the people? How do you make them feel comfortable and embrace the change? That's the most difficult part. Ever. Always.” – José Vela   People / Resources Mentioned: Spandex: https://www.spandex.com/ Toyota: http://www.toyota.com/   Connect with José Vela: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jvela/ Email: [email protected]   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on January 5, 2021, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/opportunity-costs-and-pricing/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn

As pricing professionals, we really need to be the logical part of the business. Our product lines, they really want higher prices. Sometimes they become emotionally involved with their products and they think that they're worth a ton - and they probably are.   Have we explained the value to the customers? Are we able to capture all those higher prices?   "We pricing professionals are the fulcrum of the business. Product lines want higher prices, sales want lower prices. " - Mark Stiving And what we want to do as pricing people is make sure we understand whether or not we're communicating value well to the marketplace. And if we're not communicating value, maybe we're discounting so that we can at least win some business.   So we're almost like the dispassionate referee. We're trying to say, hey, it makes more sense for us to price this way if we want to maximize profits.   On the other hand, salespeople, customers too, what lower prices. Salespeople have prices, one of their tools to close a deal. When a customer asks for a lower price, it's easy for sales to come back inside and ask us for lower price.  Again, we need to be that dispassionate referee. Have we truly explained the value to the customer? Do we know how much value that customer is going to be getting? And can we hold that price up a little bit without going for deep discounts?   So in the end, we, the pricing professionals, are that fulcrum. We're trying to find the logical center of where prices should be.   We hope you enjoyed this podcast. If you see have any questions or feedback please email me [email protected].  Now go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn  

Paul Orlando is the Founder of Startups Unplugged and is the author of the book “Growth Units”, a book that makes unit economics straightforward. He builds incubator/accelerator programs around the world, getting companies to solve problems that they couldn’t in other ways, which allows the building of autonomy and skills that keeps employee retention high and maintains the company’s top talent. Paul is an adjunct professor and runs the incubator at USC. In this episode, Paul talks about calculating lifetime value as he shares why it is important to think about pricing in relation to the LTV.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Understand the relationship lifetime value has with pricing and why it’s better to learn early and often than to fail fast Find out why overpricing and underpricing are present in various companies Discover why your lifetime value isn’t and will never be limited to one number   “People are really afraid of raising prices. I think it was Marc Andreessen who said, 'a lot of problems go away if you can raise your prices.'” – Paul Orlando   Topics Covered: 01:22 – How Paul got into the work of running incubators 03:16 – Building incubators and accelerators inside a company and changing the way people work to achieve a certain goal 06:05 – Why ‘learn early, learn often’ is a lot better than ‘fail fast’ 08:32 – Writing a book about calculating lifetime value and its components; why thinking about pricing is important 17:15 – Pricing and lifetime value; discussion about over- and underpricing 21:00 – Thinking about lifetime value in relation to subscription and non-subscription businesses 26:03 – Your lifetime value is and will never be limited to one number; why you should model the sequence of flows 29:56 – Why Paul prefers using payback time as a metric as opposed to LTV/CAC 31:23 – Paul’s pricing advice for this episode’s listeners   Key Takeaways: “I actually don't want people to fail fast. I don't want them to fail slow, either. But I'd rather that they succeed fast, or second-best – succeed slow. So, I'd like to say, learn early learn often rather than fail fast. Learn early - encounter the customer upfront rather than downstream, and learn often - keep that process going like you really probably have not figured everything out just yet. You need to keep iterating. There's so much that you could test before you have committed serious resources.” – Paul Orlando “If price is some metric of value or some measure of value, you want to be able to charge something. You don't necessarily want a business that has to push prices as low as possible.” – Paul Orlando “Lifetime value is not something that you can really get a full picture of until you've been out for a while.” – Paul Orlando “These ratios or numbers that you hear about can be misleading unless you actually start digging in a bit.” – Paul Orlando “If you can start to either shorten that time, taking pre-orders, or if there's something that you can do with your own supply chain, tough today, but if there's something that you could do there, you could improve your odds of being able to use customer revenue to grow.” – Paul Orlando   People / Resources Mentioned: Growth Units: Learn to Calculate Customer Acquisition Cost, Lifetime Value, and Why Businesses Behave the Way They Do: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GJVV8RJ/ Win Keep Grow: How to Price and Package to Accelerate Your Subscription Business: https://www.amazon.com/Win-Keep-Grow-Accelerate-Subscription/dp/1631954784 MoviePass: https://www.moviepass.com/ Uber: https://www.uber.com/ Dollar Shave Club: https://www.dollarshaveclub.com/ Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com Coke: https://us.coca-cola.com/   Connect with Paul Orlando: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/porlando/ Email: [email protected] Twitter: https://twitter.com/porlando   Connect with Mark Stiving:    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: [email protected]  

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on December 29, 2021, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/call-it-customer-impact/  If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at [email protected]. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn

As far as loving you is concerned, obviously, they love low prices; they love discounts. But the real love happens when we can deliver a ton more value than what they expected, what they actually have to pay for. These are the raving fans, the people who really value our products. And yet we couldn't capture all of that value even if we wanted to.  “Pricing has the power to make your customers love you, hate you, or anything in between.” - Mark Stiving As to hating you, customers will absolutely hate you when you raise their prices without some reasonable explanation, without doing something nice for them, because customers hate price increases. And of course, if our pricing is just ridiculous; if it's horrible, for whatever reason, they will learn to hate us. So pricing really is very powerful, it causes emotions inside our customers. We want to make sure we're managing those emotions carefully.  We hope you enjoyed this podcast. If you see have any questions or feedback please email me [email protected].  Now go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: [email protected] LinkedIn