In this episode, Shaun and Chris talk with Jim Dethmer, co-founder of the Conscious Leadership Group. The guys talk golf as a metaphor, frameworks, life coaches, emotions and the power of sexual creative energy.

In Episode 7 of If You've Come This Far, Shaun and Chris talk with Ryan Bayron. Ryan is a husband, father, graphic designer, energy healer, musician, podcast host and the holistic mystic on TikTok (5M likes & 284k fans!). They discuss all that is Ryan plus work, parenting, therapy, social media, and healing.

In Episode 6 of If You've Come This Far, Shaun and Chris talk with Wes Becton. Wes has been married to his wife, Ingrid for 30 years, has three children and is CEO and co-founder (with Ingrid) of George Washington Street Partners, a consulting firm that specializes in business consulting and executive leadership coaching. They discuss Wes' military and business careers, his father, General Becton, an American hero, parenting, race relations, golf and more.

In Episode 5 of If You've Come This Far, Shaun and Chris talk with Alexa James. Alexa is a mother of two children, CEO of NAMI Chicago and Senior Advisor for Mental Wellness to the Chicago Police Department. They discuss approaches to mental wellness, self-care, business, social media, psychedelics, connection and more. Stay for the end...we live in such a small world!

Shaun and Chris talk with Billy Baker, husband, father, Boston Globe reporter and author of "We Need to Hang Out."

Frank Naugo is a co-founder of MenLiving, a husband, father, sales manager, yoga teacher, and most of all graceful. We explore the benefits of being in nature, self-awareness, purpose, Wim Hoff and much more!