In this episode of Lipstick & Lies, listen as Jami Rice and I speak with Criminal Psychologist, Dr. Michelle Ward. Together, we discuss everything from common misconceptions regarding serial killers to red flags people should watch out for in a romantic relationship. Dr. Michelle Ward also weighs in on the Gilgo Beach Murders case which recently had a major update with the arrest of Rex Heuermann who is suspected to be the the Long Island Serial Killer. But before diving into the dark topic of serial killers, Jami and I play a game of “Would You Rather” with Dr. Ward as a warm-up to our deep dive on serial killers.    Follow us on social media and become part of the Lie Detector community: Instagram: @LipstickandLies  TikTok: @LipstickandLiesPod Jami Rice: @JamiOnAir (IG & TikTok)  Melissa Moore: @LifeAfterCrimee (IG) / @LifeAfterCrime (TikTok)    Follow Dr. Michelle Ward on Instagram @DrMichelleWard.    Leave a 5-star rating for Lipstick & Lies in Apple Podcasts, and drop the name of your favorite lipstick or lip gloss while you’re there! apple.co/lipstick   Crime is typically a good ol’ boys club, but sometimes the truth lies behind lipstick. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Join myself and Jami Rice, two crime survivors, as we lift the veil on lurid tales of lady liars and killers who hid their dark intentions behind a veneer of charm and normalcy. On Lipstick & Lies, Jami and I explore a genre once dominated by the whispered tales of 'good ol’ boys’, but sometimes, the truth lies behind lipstick. If you’re intrigued by women who’ve dabbled in the good ol’ boys crime club you’ve found your people...and your podcast! Listen to new episodes every other Thursday. apple.co/lipstick Follow us on social media and become part of the Lie Detector community: Instagram: @LipstickandLies  TikTok: @LipstickandLiesPod Jami Rice: @JamiOnAir (IG & TikTok)  Melissa Moore: @LifeAfterCrimee (IG) / @LifeAfterCrime (TikTok)    Listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this season ending episode of Happy Face Presents: Two Face, we receive the final update from Michelle Leonard, the DNA Detective. Has she found Becky's father and what does Becky do with all of this information after going on a altering journey? We are left with a heartfelt takeaway from Becky, in her own words. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this bonus episode, we hear the bizarre letter Diane wrote to her post-conviction attorney in full read by an actor.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Eric Mason recounts Diane Down's strange escape from prison. Her post conviction attorney, Steve Gorham, shares a bizarre letter written after her trial that changes her story of what happened the night of the shooting. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We revisit Becky's search for her biological father. DNA detective Michelle Leonard presents Becky with thedefinitive answer on her relation to Diane Downs, and we get a surprise match that moves us closer to solving the mystery of Becky's father. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The trial of Diane Downs begins, sparking a media circus as reporters scramble for details. Christie Downs makes a remarkable recovery from her stroke and is able to testify in front of the jurors. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How does Becky plan to uncover her Paternal Lineage? With help from two DNA and genetic experts, we sink our teeth into the reality of trying to track down a parent with limited information. Fortunately, with the DNA kits submitted by Diane's brother, James Fredrickson, and Becky, we have the first piece of the puzzle to find Becky's biological dad. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Just four days after the shooting Diane participated in a reenactment of the night of May 19th for the police. Her affect throughout the reenactment caused the police and community to look at her as a suspect.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Could Diane’s obsession with a married man be the possible motive? We explore her former marriage and life leading up to the shooting of the Downs children.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After many attempts to speak with Diane's family members, Diane's brother, James, finally agrees to sit down with Becky. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After a viewing of a TV movie revealed to Becky what her biological mother had done, her life took a turn towards rebellion. Now, twenty years later, she's still dealing with the consequences of that discovery Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In 1984, Diane Downs was convicted for the murder of her daughter and attempted murder of her other son and daughter. Shortly before her admission to prison, she gave birth to a girl. Now that daughter, Becky Babcock, begins the journey to accept the connection to who her biological mother is, and what that means for her life going forward. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How has this journey changed Melissa’s life? And were she and her father tormented by his ghosts or their shared inner demons? Melissa now has an answer. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After getting a PET Scan, Melissa meets with a neuroscientist who believes brain patterns can identify psychopaths. Dr. James Fallon also happens to be a psychopath. He shares his incredible personal story before revealing her results. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Melissa is conflicted by how her father’s crimes have shaped her life and her career. She’s also conflicted about the paranormal ‘gift’ they both share-- seeing and feeling ghosts. Does this bolster Sam’s psychopath argument? And has she passed this trait to her son as well?  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Melissa married her husband Sam hoping to find stability and distance herself from her father’s crimes - but her inability to open up emotionally is destroying their marriage - and it leads them both to question whether Melissa is capable of feeling compassion - a psychopathic trait she and her father seem to share. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Keith Jesperson savagely killed at least 8 women between 1990 and 1995. Eluding capture, he taunted law enforcement and media with letters signed with a smile. But the detectives and journalist who helped end his killing spree say his reputation as a macho, murdering mastermind is not what it seems. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Though Jesperson has clearly left his mark on both of their lives, Don and Melissa manage to find solace in their shared experiences.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Melissa faces Don Findlay - the son of Jesperson’s last victim. Why has he been living a double identity for so long? What does he know about Keith? And can he forgive a person he sees as an extension of the man who brutally murdered his mother?  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How did Keith get away with murder for so long? It comes down to luck... and the bizarre story of a couple who tried to take credit for the crime.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Melissa was 15 years old when she found out her father was a serial killer, and the news couldn’t have arrived at a worse time: she just found out she was pregnant. Melissa confronts her high school boyfriend to get a better grasp on the time. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Melissa’s mother believes Keith wasn’t born a psychopath, but that he was raised to be that way by his father, Les.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.