May proved to be a challenging month for investors. The NASDAQ was the big US winner last month, rallying almost 6%. That's in stark contrast to the DJIA, which was off more than 3%. It's one of the biggest disparities in US stock market performance in years. Joining Julia to discuss what might happen next is Lisa Shalett, Chief Investment Officer of Wealth Management at Morgan Stanley.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We're still in the very early stages of both understanding and harnessing the power of artificial intelligence. But it's coming, and the pace of change is already vast. And along with it the cries for restraint are growing ever more insistent. Just in the past two months, industry voices have gone from saying we need a six-month pause to reevaluate, to yesterday's warning that AI could be the death of us. Among those most alarmed are some of those with the most to gain financially. And one of the key beneficiaries, Microsoft, is also one of the strongest voices pushing for smart and swift regulation to ensure we get this right. Joining Julia to discuss is Microsoft Vice Chairman Brad Smith.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dozens of AI industry leaders, policymakers and academics are warning there's a risk that the use of artificial intelligence could lead to the annihilation of humanity. The statement says extinction by AI should be considered a top global threat and treated just as seriously as risks from pandemics and nuclear war. It's worth noting that today's cutting-edge chatbots don't think for themselves. They produce outputs based on data they've been trained on. And that's where the company Scale AI says it offers solutions by providing software that helps define and label the datasets used in this process. Joining Julia to discuss is Scale AI founder/CEO Alexandr Wang.    To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The White House and senior Republicans may have reached an "agreement in principle" to raise the debt ceiling, but now lawmakers must vote on it. The US government has never defaulted on its debt, but that didn't stop rating agencies including Morningstar from placing the country's AAA credit rating under review. Joining Julia to discuss is Morningstar Senior Vice President of Sovereign Global Ratings Michael Heydt.  Also on today's show: Selva Demiralp, Professor of Economics at Koç University in Istanbul.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

French startup Zephalto is offering flights to the edge of space in a pressurized capsule attached to a helium balloon. The firm says the craft will take off from a French spaceport and ascend for around 90 minutes, reaching an altitude of 25 kilometers (82,000 feet). Not surprisingly, given this is a French company, one of the main attractions of the trip is feasting on food prepared by Michelin-star chefs. Joining Julia to discuss is Zephalto founder Vincent Farret d'Astiès.  Also on today's show: Daniel Ives, Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst at Wedbush Securities; Greg Valliere, Chief US Policy Strategist at AGF.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

According to a new report by the International Energy Agency (IEA), global investment in clean energy is on course to rise to $1.7 trillion this year. In fact, investment in solar power is set to exceed oil for the first time ever. But there's still major concern about the unevenness of that growth. The IEA points out that more than 90% of that increase comes from advanced economies and China. Joining Julia to discuss is IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol.  Also on today's show: World Bank President David Malpass, who's stepping down on June 30 after serving more than four years.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The US Congress has very little time left to avoid a default. Whether that happens or not, even flirting with the prospect has big consequences for investors in US assets like US government bonds, which are supposed to be the safest assets to own. Imagine you provide a product whose value is tied to the US dollar and investors trust that you have exactly the same amount of cash or bonds, for example, to back it up. In very simple terms, that is how a stablecoin works. Circle is a financial service company that issues one of the world's largest, known as a USDC. Stablecoins facilitate trades in cryptocurrencies, but they're also used to lend, borrow and send payments around the world with lower transaction costs. Joining Julia to discuss is Circle CEO Jeremy Allaire.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

While much of the recent talk about artificial intelligence has focused on how this powerful technology can be abused, there can be huge creative benefits as well. The software giant Adobe is making it easier than ever before to enhance images with lifelike effects. Joining Julia to discuss is Scott Belsky, chief strategy officer and executive VP of design and emerging products at Adobe.  Also on today's show: Author Ashley Vance discusses his new book, When the Heavens Went on Sale (The Misfits and Geniuses Racing to put Space Within Reach). To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

From solving climate change to improving electric vehicle battery technology, tackling some of the world's most challenging problems remains beyond the reach of even the world's most powerful supercomputers. Hoping to change that, IBM just announced a 10-year, $100 million dollar initiative to develop a quantum supercomputer. For more on this, Julia spoke exclusively with IBM CEO Arvind Krishna.  Also on today's show: Nikos Vettas, general director of the Foundation for Economic and Industrial Research.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

According to the global charity Oxfam International, G7 nations owe $13 trillion dollars to developing countries in aid that was promised but never delivered, as well as funding for climate action. Oxfam Interim Executive Director Amitabh Behar says, "It's time to call the G7's hypocrisy for what it is: an attempt to dodge responsibility and maintain the neo-colonial status quo." He joins Julia to discuss.  Also on today's show: Raj Ramanand, CEO of Signifyd, an end-to-end fraud protection company.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Data collected from millions of entrepreneurs all around the world has been pulled together for the first time in a global index measuring their economic benefits. The information was collated by Shopify, the global commerce platform that says it's effectively a one-stop shop for retailers selling online and beyond. Joining Julia to discuss is Shopify President Harley Finkelstein.  Also on today's show: Sheila A. Smith, the John E. Merow senior fellow for Asia-Pacific studies at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Around a fifth of 12-19-year-olds in the US are obese, according to the CDC, which also warns that adolescent mental health remains in crisis. Both issues are on the radar of the gym chain Planet Fitness, which markets itself as a "judgment-free zone." It's allowing high school teens to work out for free in its clubs in the US and Canada over the summer. Joining the show to discuss is Planet Fitness CEO Chris Rondeau.  Also on today's show: Eswar Prasad, Tolani Senior Professor of Trade Policy at Cornell University.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Whether it's a conversation with an AI interface like ChatGPT or a computer-generated video telling us the news, recent leaps in artificial intelligence have given humans new powers of creativity. But with it comes new risks, particularly when it comes to "deepfakes," defined as synthetic media that have been digitally manipulated to replace one person's likeness convincingly with that of another. Joining the show to discuss is former Google CEO and Chairman Eric Schmidt, who tells Julia it's increasingly difficult to determine whether what we see can be trusted.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Since the emergency of ChatGPT and Google's Bard there's been plenty of talk -- and certainly some warnings -- about the rapid adoption of artificial intelligence (AI) and its impact on education. Pearson, the British publishing and education company, says AI has been a big part of its work for years. Then last week it announced plans to further integrate AI into its products. Joining Julia to discuss is Pearson CEO Andy Bird.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Venus Aerospace is determined to make the world a much smaller place with a promise to fly you from San Francisco to Tokyo or Houston to London in just an hour. The US startup is working on a rocket-powered, hypersonic plane called the Stargazer. It will be designed to carry 12 passengers within the Earth's atmosphere at nine times the speed of sound. Joining Julia to discuss is Venus cofounder/CEO Sarah "Sassie" Duggleby.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Disney posted a mixed earnings report for the second quarter. The company said it lost four million paid subscribers for Disney+ but narrowed its financial losses for the streaming channel to just under $660 million -- the result of charging more for subscriptions, cutting marketing expenditures, and looking to boost advertising. Joining Julia to discuss is Tim Nollen, senior media tech analyst at Macquarie.  Also on today's show: Vonn Christenson, cofounder/CEO of ZeroNox, a California-based electrical equipment manufacturer.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Zero-emission truck maker Nikola has made a major shift in strategy. It's selling operations in Europe and refocusing on demand in North America. Production of its hydrogen-fueled trucks is set to begin this summer, and the company is also promising to deliver mobile refueling stations to get around the lack of hydrogen supply. Nikola stock fell nearly 13% yesterday after the company announced a quarterly loss of $170 million. Joining Julia to discuss all this is Nikola CEO Michael Lohscheller.  Also on today's show: Hadi Partovi, CEO of the education nonprofit Code.org, talks about the need to embrace AI as a teaching tool.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Fears of a potential debt default by the United States continue to rise as a deadline to get a deal done approaches. President Joe Biden is meeting with Republican lawmakers today to try to get the issue resolved. Joining us to discuss is Greg Valliere, chief US policy strategist at AGF Investments.  Also on today's show: Melinda Haring, nonresident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council's Eurasia Center; Jared Spataro, Corporate Vice President, Modern Work & Business Applications at Microsoft.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The clock is ticking toward a possible US debt default. President Joe Biden is expected to meet congressional leaders tomorrow after the vast majority of Senate Republicans said they'd refuse to raise the debt ceiling unless there are spending cuts. Joining the show to discuss is Kristina Hooper, the Chief Global Market Strategist at Invesco.  Also on today's show: A.K.M. Musha, Sudan Country Director at Concern Worldwide.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Among the dignitaries taking part in Saturday's historic coronation ceremony of King Charles will be the Lord Mayor of London, Nicholas Lyons. He leads the City of London Corporation and is a global ambassador for the UK's financial and professional services industry. He joins Julia in London.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The US Federal Reserve is set to release an important interest rate decision later today against the backdrop of fresh tremors in the banking sector and the still-unresolved debt ceiling crisis. Joining the show to discuss is Michael Gapen, managing director and head of US economics at BofA Global Research.  Also on today's show: Pandora CEO Alexander Lacik.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

US investors are gearing up for a host of significant indicators on the economy this week, including new data on job openings today, the Fed's policy meeting tomorrow (with another interest rate decision due), a fresh reading on jobless claims Thursday, and a critical jobs report Friday. Joining the show to discuss all this and more is John Petrides, portfolio manager at Tocqueville Asset Management.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

US investors were greeted early this morning with the news that JPMorgan Chase is buying most assets of First Republic Bank after the nation’s second-largest bank failure ever. While the deal protects First Republic's depositors, it will surely spark new concerns about consolidation in the US banking industry and how recent banking uncertainties will affect industry lending. Joining the show to discuss is Gerard Cassidy, head of US bank equity strategy at RBC Capital Markets.  Also on today's show: Mark Smith, VP of humanitarian and emergency affairs at World Vision, one of the largest humanitarian agencies with a presence in Sudan.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In a time of inflation, stock market volatility, slowing economic growth, and bank failures, an increasing number of investors are turning to art. According to Statistica, global art sales rose 3% last year to nearly $68 billion. Artsy connects almost 4,000 galleries, auction houses, art fairs and institutions in over 100 countries with art collectors. Joining the show to discuss is Artsy CEO Mike Steib.  Also on today's show: Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Citroën has set its sights, or rather its headlamps, on Southeast Asia, India, and South America. The French automaker, which has been part of Stellantis since 2021, sees the regions as high-potential, fast-growing markets. Citroën is launching a brand-new model and spearheading the effort is a new brand CEO. His name is Thierry Koskas and he joins the show live from the launch in New Delhi.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Mexican restaurant chain Chipotle, with over 7,000 locations across North America, served up better-than-expected earnings in the first quarter. The chain, which expanded its footprint with 41 new restaurants this year, says that higher menu prices have helped it increase revenue by 17% year-on-year. Joining the show to discuss is Chipotle CFO Jack Hartung.  Also on today's show: International Energy Agency Executive Director Fatih Birol.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Barnes & Noble is the world's largest retail bookseller and is in the middle of its largest expansion in over a decade. The chain plans to open 30 new stores this year, including two that are former Amazon stores. It also plans to remodel at least 90 existing stores. Joining Julia to discuss is Barnes & Noble CEO James Daunt.  Also on today's show: His Royal Highness Prince Constantijn van Oranje, Special Envoy of Techleap, the Netherlands’ startup ecosystem accelerator.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

While Moscow is threatening to terminate the crucial Black Sea grain export deal if the G7 bans exports to Russia, the G7 itself wants to see the deal extended and expanded. Business executive and major philanthropist Howard Buffett knows full well the consequences of failure. He's just returned from his seventh trip to Ukraine since Russia's invasion and promised to double his humanitarian support for the country. He joins Julia to discuss.  Also on today's show: Sumant Sinha, founder and CEO of Renew, one of India's leading clean energy companies.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

IKEA, the world's largest furniture retailer with a presence in 31 countries, opened its first US store in 1985. It recently announced it will beef up its efforts in America with an investment of $2.2 billion in new stores and pickup sites, creating an estimated 2,000 new jobs. Joining Julia to discuss his company's expansion plans is Javier Quiñones, CEO/CSO at IKEA US.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A huge task for the people of Ukraine is helping those injured in the war rebuild their lives. The Superhumans Center, a state-of-the-art medical center, opened its doors last weekend. It will provide prosthetic limbs, rehabilitation, PTSD treatment and reconstructive surgery to wounded soldiers and civilians -- all for free. Joining Julia to discuss is Superhumans cofounder Andrey Stavnitser.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The controversy and confusion over artificial intelligence (AI) continues to rise. Just this week a winner in the Sony World Photography Awards refused his award because the image was made using AI. And a song using AI-generated vocals replicating the voices of Drake and the Weeknd was pulled from several streaming platforms, raising questions about copyright laws. Amid calls from some industry leaders to pause AI development, what's best for our society at large and how do we learn to better use this technology? Joining Julia to discuss is author, venture capitalist, podcaster, and cofounder of LinkedIn, Reid Hoffman.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As smoke and gunfire fill the air in Sudan's capital Khartoum, CNN is hearing that Germany is preparing for a possible evacuation operation. A spokesman tells us special forces are on standby. Watching the situation closely is international security firm Global Guardian, which provides emergency services for Sudan's largest cities. Joining Julia to discuss is Global Guardian CEO Dale Buckner.  Also on today's show: CNN's Vedika Sud's special report on the opening of Apple's first physical store in India.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Opening statements in Fox News' high-stakes trial were supposed to start today. But in a surprise twist Sunday night, the judge pushed back the start of the $1.6 billion case until Tuesday. Dominion Voting Systems has accused Fox of knowingly broadcasting lies and conspiracy theories about its voting machines after Donald Trump lost the 2020 election. Fox has denied wrongdoing, saying the US Constitution protects the rights to free speech. Joining Julia to discuss the case is renowned First Amendment attorney Floyd Abrams.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today's show comes to you live from the Washington, DC headquarters of the International Monetary Fund, where finance ministers, central bank governors, and thought leaders are meeting amid what the IMF called "a fog of economic uncertainty." Among Julia's guests are World Bank President David Malpass, Allianz adviser Mohamed El-Erian, and Eurogroup President Paschal Donohoe.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The New York International Auto Show is underway in Manhattan and one big theme is the future of electric vehicles. It comes as the US government is preparing to issue new emission standards that could make about two thirds of new passenger vehicles sold in the US all-electric in less than a decade. Nissan is speeding ahead with electrification, recently announcing a plan to have 27 electrified models by 2030. Joining the show to discuss is Jérémie Papin, senior vice president of Nissan Motor and chairperson of Nissan Americas.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The concept of "buy now, pay later" (BNPL) is firmly embedded in the global shopping landscape. Apple is the latest to join the fray in letting consumers pay for purchases over time. Back in 2020 the sector was worth around $90 billion. That number is set to explode to nearly $4 trillion by 2030. Klarna is a leader in BNPL and is now incorporating ChatGPT functionality to improve the shopping experience. Joining Julia to discuss is Klarna CEO Sebastian Siemiatkowski.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What started out as a kitchen disaster turned into a kitchen gadget with plans to reshape food waste in the home. After Viktor Nicholas' garbage disposal broke during a party he quickly discovered a number of issues surrounding disposals. Soon after, Sepura Home was born. Joining Julia to discuss is Sepura cofounder and CEO Victor Nicolov.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With warm weather finally on the horizon and the pandemic in the rearview mirror, travel companies are gearing up for a further surge in demand. Booking Holdings, with brands including Booking.com, Priceline, Rentalcars.com, Kayak and Open Table, says it had a record month in January with over 90 million room nights booked. The company says gross bookings soared 58% last year to $121 billion. Joining Julia to discuss is Booking CEO Glenn Fogel.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We're heading into a big weekend for foodies with the holidays of both Easter and Passover taking place at the same time. Countless consumers will be snapping up produce to make feasts for their families. But how is food inflation, post-Covid changes and tightening budgets changing the dynamic this year? Joining Julia to discuss is Stew Leonard Jr., President/CEO of supermarket chain Stew Leonard's.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How would you feel about eating woolly mammoth meat? Seriously. Vow, an Australian cultured meat startup, is on a mission to mix and match cells from unconventional species to create an entirely new kind of meat -- all without slaughtering animals. Their team made a mammoth meatball by injecting mammoth DNA into the muscles of a sheep and then filling in a few gaps with an African elephant's DNA, the mammoth's closest, non-extinct relative. Joining Julia to discuss is Vow Chief Scientific Officer James Ryall.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The latest supercar from legendary automaker Lamborghini is a plug-in electric with three motors and a V12 engine. It's called the Revuelto, which means "mixed up" in Spanish, which sums up the combination quite nicely. Joining Julia to discuss is Lamborghini CEO Stephan Winkelmann.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

There is no new episode of the First Move showcast. If you haven’t already, please check out CNN’s other podcasts and showcasts at cnn.com/audio.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Most of us are likely familiar with the concept of lab-grown meat. Well, startup Shiok Meats wants to put lab-grown seafood onto our dinner plates. The company says it's close to getting regulatory approval to sell their product in Singapore with the aim of entering restaurants in the middle of next year. That would give food fans a cruelty-free and more sustainable seafood alternative. Joining Julia to discuss is Shiok cofounder/CEO Dr. Sandhya Sriram.  Also on today's show: AGF Chief US Policy Strategist Greg Valliere.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

There is no new episode of the First Move showcast. If you haven’t already, please check out CNN’s other podcasts and showcasts at cnn.com/audio.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chatter about ChatGPT has soared this year. Now, a group of AI leaders and tech executives -- Elon Musk and Steve Wozniak among them -- has released a letter calling for a six-month pause in certain paths of development, citing potential risks to society and humanity. It comes just two weeks after the firm OpenAI announced an even-more-powerful version of its rival chatbot tool. Joining Julia to discuss is AI pioneer Yoshua Bengio, another signee of the letter.  Also on today's show: Matt Gialich, CEO of AstroForge, a mining startup hoping its refining process can work on asteroids in space.   To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With a change at the top, is ride-hailing firm Lyft ready to change gear? Investors certainly hope it has the ability to close the gap with Uber. After going public in 2019, Lyft has struggled to recover from a pandemic slump and has lost ground to its biggest rival. Despite cost cutting it's failed to turn a profit, with projections this year below expectations. Joining Julia to discuss is new Lyft CEO David Risher.  Also on today's show: Ham Serunjogi, cofounder and CEO of Chipper Cash, a fintech company serving more than five million customers across the African continent.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has paused controversial plans to overhaul the country's judicial system. His proposals have divided the country and sparked weeks of protests and widespread strikes. They've also prompted a backlash from Israel's vibrant tech sector, most notably Papaya Global, which is one of Israel's most successful startups. Its HR and payroll platforms are used in over 160 different countries, and it has a valuation of $3.7 billion. But in January Papaya CEO Eynat Guez moved the company's funds out of Israel, blaming the uncertain business climate on political instability. And she's now urging her peers to do the same. She joins Julia to discuss.  Also on today's show: Economist Mohamed El-Erian gives us his take on the recent crisis in the banking sector.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The National Association of Manufacturers (NAM) is the largest manufacturing association in the US. Its members are from every industrial sector and all 50 states. Its latest survey found that nearly two thirds of manufacturers believe Europe is an important market for their company and that 77% support negotiating new agreements with European nations. Joining the show to discuss is NAM President/CEO Jay Timmons.   To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices