Katie reveals her incredible journey of change and growth. She shares: From Small Beginnings to Big Dreams: How she made the leap from a small town to the Big Apple, navigated the transition from communism to Wall Street, and evolved from working at an established credit rating agency to leading tech innovation in the insurance sector. Risk into Opportunity: The art of leveraging her expertise in risk assessment to seize educated opportunities and drive success. Building Mental Fortitude: Strategies for developing mental toughness, enabling her to move forward and recover swiftly from setbacks. Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Katie Curry ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

In this engaging episode, we explore the transformative impact of Gen Z in the workplace with Katie Curry, a Gen X leader who bridges the generational divide at home and at work. Katie champions the value of adapting to change, emphasizing a leadership style that pivots to embrace transparency, meritocracy, and agility. Her insights reveal the critical need for companies to evolve in response to the changing expectations of Gen Z employees, thus maintaining a competitive edge in a rapidly shifting corporate landscape. Katie's approach to leadership is deeply rooted in seeing individuals as humans first, advocating for a culture of understanding, simplicity, and humility. She highlights the necessity of leadership that can adapt and change, fostering an environment where solutions are collaboratively discovered and innovation flourishes. For Gen Z on the cusp of their careers, Katie underscores the importance of embracing change with a focus on skill development, community building, and mental resilience. She advises on finding one's strengths, diversifying personal networks, and viewing career pivots with excitement rather than fear, positioning change as an avenue for growth and opportunity rather than a barrier. Through Katie's perspective, we gain a deeper understanding of the dynamic interplay between leadership and the workforce of the future. Her narrative champions change as a fundamental element in nurturing a thriving, inclusive workplace and in guiding Gen Z towards fulfilling career paths amidst the complexities of the modern world. Katie highly recommends these insightful books to our audience, emphasizing their transformative potential for personal and professional growth: Mental Toughness by Damon Zaharadis, a guide to mastering your emotions and facing challenges with resilience. The One Thing by Gary Keller, exploring the profound impact of focus and simplicity in achieving success. Good to Great by Jim Collins, a study on the principles that propel companies from mediocrity to excellence. _________________________ Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Katie Curry ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

How do you like a free, unfiltered Berkeley Haas MBA course by Dr. Juliana Schroeder? Currently, Juliana is the Harold Furst Chair in Management Philosophy and Values and Associate Professor in the Management of Organizations at Berkeley Haas. Juliana’s research examines how people make social judgments and decisions. She studies the psychological processes underlying how people think about the minds of those around them, and how their judgments then influence their decisions and interactions. Juliana has taught in all of the MBA degree programs at Haas, including the Full-time MBA program, the Evening and Weekend MBA program, and the Executive MBA program, as well as the PhD program. She teaches classes such as: Leading People, Negotiations and Conflict Resolution, and Experimental Methods in Behavioral Science. She also directs multiple executive education programs such as Communications Excellence and the CEO program. She is also a co-founder of the Psychology of Technology Institute, which supports and advances scientific research studying psychological consequences and antecedents of technological advancements. Personal website Episode Breakdown: 3:39 — Road to Behavioral Scientist: How she was drawn to psychology as a profession. 10:42 — AI and the Perception of Power in Decision-Making: Discussing a 2020 paper published before ChatGPT—what foresights did she explore, and what are the implications for now and the future? The paper link 22:28 — AI as a Strategy Tool for Executives: Exploring whether AI is the best strategist for executives in high-stake and low-stake decisions. 28:50 — AI's Role in Synchronous and Asynchronous Human Communications: How AI influences different modes of communication. Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Juliana Schroeder  ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

How did managing wild complaints at a call center prepare you to lead people operations and champion DEI initiatives at one of the world's most culturally diverse wine and spirits groups? Fun fact: Part of the LVMH group, Moët Hennessy includes 26 houses, generating €6.6 billion in 2023 revenue. Renowned brands like Moët & Chandon, Krug, Veuve Clicquot, Hennessy, and Château d’Yquem epitomize prestigious origins and terroirs. This global portfolio blends heritage with innovation, authenticity with creativity in its exceptional champagnes, wines, and spirits. A former account manager at GM, Paris-based Greg Morley began his HR and People Operations career at Walt Disney World, where he worked for over 15 years. His career has taken him from Paris to Hong Kong and Shanghai. Subsequently, he joined Hasbro to continue his work in talent management and HR. He was also part of the organizing team for the first Gay Games held in Hong Kong in 2022. Currently, Greg is the Global Head of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, and Regional HR Director for Asia Oceania at Moët Hennessy. He serves on the advisory board of Simmons University's Institute for Inclusive Leadership and is about to launch his first book, 'BOND,' which explores building a sense of belonging at work and in life. Episode Breakdown: 4:06 — Greg's Odyssey: From a call center to Walt Disney and Moët Hennessy. 5:44 — Leveraging Experience: How did Greg's frontline commercial role prime him for a longstanding career in HR and People functions? 8:00 — Strategic Alliances: Mastering CEO partnerships as a senior HR leader or CHRO. 10:01 — Transforming DEI: Rewiring systems from the inside out for local, regional, and global impact. 17:52 — Navigating Complexity in Diversity: Balancing the blessings and burdens of Moët Hennessy’s diverse, multi-layered culture. 25:17 — Unveiling 'Bond': Greg's upcoming book—its inspirations, its goals, and what it hopes to solve. Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Greg Morley ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

What happens when higher education is plagued by competition and a lack of collaboration? Ever wondered what would happen if higher education was more like a reality TV show? In this episode, we tackle the “Higher Ed Hunger Games,” where universities are too busy competing to work together. Dr. Bridget Burns, the CEO of the University Innovation Alliance (UIA) and the host of The Innovating Together Podcast, takes us from her small-town roots in rural America to the front lines of educational reform. She’s on a mission to turn these academic rivals into allies. Bridget’s goal? To boost graduation and employment rates for low-income students by transforming higher education into a more cooperative and innovative field. Forget the drama, we’re talking real change here—no politics is needed, just good old-fashioned teamwork that is centered on humanity. Episode Breakdown: 00:35—Introduction: Rundown of today's episode 03:20—Overcoming Adversity: Bridget's Journey from Isolation to Empowerment “I grew up in a cul de sac of racism, homophobia, misogyny—very rural America—and getting out was super important.” 06:33—Problem in Universities: Unveiling the Diffusion of Innovation Problem “We don’t know if what we’re doing is any good, or how to scale it.” 10:59—Higher Ed Hunger Games: Tackling the Cutthroat Competition "Higher education is highly competitive, hierarchical, set up to pit you against others, which leaves very little space to share about shared problems." 16:03—Real Change or Just for Show? Scouting for True Innovators in Academia "We need to figure out who else is a worker bee, who's interested in doing the really hard stuff and not just drawn to the image." 18:48—Who Actually Likes Change? Spoiler: No One “Everyone who says they like change is a liar. You only like change that is your idea and that you actively participate in creating.” 30:07—Mending Hearts in the Office: When Leaders Turn into Heartbreakers "There are a lot of people walking around with broken hearts because they’ve had a leader who’s betrayed them." 33:39—The AI Rat Race: Why Can’t We All Just Get Along? "This natural tendency to compete with each other. There’s like an arms race and that’s what’s happening with AI.” 38:41—From Cap and Gown to Capable and Grown: Reinventing the Grad-to-Gig Highway "There should be coaches for faculty to embed career readiness into every single classroom, starting from the first class a student takes." Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Bridget Burns ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

What words would you use to describe a recruiter? Holly asked this question to a focus group before she started Facet. She said, “bloodsucker, selfish, high commission. You name it. They were just not good. Someone even compared recruiters to canned goods in a pantry. They said recruiters will reach into the back, grab an old can of beans, dust it off, present it to the client, and if the client doesn’t want it, they put it back and you never hear from them again.” In this episode, Holly shares how her prior experience as a recruiter helped her transform the headhunting business from a transaction mindset to a people-first platform—bringing back humanity to one of the most human-centric businesses. Episode Breakdown: 01:25—Full Circle: Holly’s return to recruiting and her plans to do it differently this time. 05:40—Recruitment Woes: Putting a price tag on tears? The absurdity of valuing deeply personal moments in headhunting. 07:33—Focus Group Fiasco: Holly’s hilarious and grim findings from focus groups, where recruiters were compared to bloodsuckers and old cans of beans in a dusty pantry. 09:27—Life-Changing Calls: Recruiters can flip your world like a pinball game! One call can turn a dull job into a dream career. Holly shares how making interviews fun can change lives. 11:33—Sharp Eyes for Talent: Recruiter’s superpower in spotting potential. Holly’s story of convincing a woman in her 60s she’s perfect for a role, proving age is just a number. 14:32—AI’s Blind Spot: AI can’t spot empathy and creativity in cross-industry talents. Holly explains how AI would have missed her entirely—she’s not even in the data pool! 20:16—Million-Dollar Career Advice: Holly’s top tips for job seekers—be authentic, build real connections, and network like it’s your job. Reciprocity is core to every relationship. 30:36—Bonus: Podcast Therapy. Holly shares why being interviewed here is a therapeutic experience.  Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Holly Bond ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

Would you keep pushing for a university degree if it took you four times as long to finish? Holly did. It took her 17 years to achieve her university degree because it was her dream. Her life motto: Always finish what you start. It’s never too late to reach the finish line. Join us as we delve into the extraordinary story of Holly Bond, a remarkable Canadian entrepreneur and president of a headhunting firm. From motherhood to building a successful franchise and eventually transitioning into the headhunting business, Holly’s journey is truly inspirational. Episode Breakdown: 00:33—Holly Unplugged: Dive into the life of a Halifax local juggling degrees, diapers, and dumbbells. 12:56—Tick-Tock Motivation: Holly shares the poignant reason she pushes so hard: “My mother died at the same age I am now. I have so many things I want to do. I’m afraid of one day dying or reaching 85 and regretting not trying today.” 16:50—Franchise Fever: From a concerned mom to an international franchise sensation overnight. It all started when Holly’s son was 13 and overweight. After a TV interview, she received 103 emails from around the world inquiring about franchising. 25:40—The Humble Entrepreneur: “Don’t let your ego get inflated and always listen to genuine advice from people who care about you.” Holly reflects on how she nearly lost everything—both personally and professionally—without this mindset. Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Holly Bond ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

Is financial independence a realistic goal or just a marketing myth? Join us as Gagan Sandhu, a mechanical engineer turned fintech founder, challenges conventional wisdom alongside host Vince Chan in a spirited Chicago Booth-style debate. Gagan Sandhu emigrated from India to the States 20 years ago. Just two years ago, he launched a fintech company called Xillion aimed at empowering millennials and Gen Zers to achieve financial independence—a concept he and Vince will vigorously explore and debate. Expect to hear Gagan’s unique insights on navigating career paths, prepared meticulously despite his busy schedule. His dedication to understanding the show’s scope, seeking examples, and sharing his experiences in advance promises an enriching dialogue. Stay tuned for the next 45 minutes—you’re in for some serious learning. Episode Breakdown: 02:29—Meet Gagan Sandhu: Indian Immigrant Who Believes in the Power of Determined Change 08:00—Thirst for Knowledge: The Secret Sauce Behind Career Makeovers 14:59—Financial Independence: What is Gagan's definition? 25:54—Devil’s Advocate: Vince Probes Human Psychology and the Reality of Financial Independence 28:16—Debate Club: Gagan Makes His Case for the Liberating Power of Financial Planning 32:57—Who’s on Gagan’s Help List? Unpacking His Mission 37:45—FinFluencer Frenzy: Gagan Weighs In on the Social Media Buzz 41:05—Career Curveballs: Gagan’s Guide to Navigating Layoffs and Skill Shifts 45:40—Merit Over Age: Gagan’s Hiring Philosophy at Xillion Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Gagan Sandhu ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

Who’s been rocking the podcast charts? We have! Since our launch, we’ve attained the highest rankings in Ireland—#1 in Careers and #2 in Business. And believe it or not, today we’re hosting our first ever phenomenal Irish guest! High time our chart-topping success met some true Irish flair. Based in Dublin, Ireland, Lucy Gernon is a dedicated mother of three and a millennial who brings a rich background in biotechnology and an extensive career in medical science to her recent entrepreneurial endeavors. She focuses on coaching both emerging and established women leaders. This podcast aims to do more than share success stories; it delves into real, lived experiences that include triumphs, challenges, unexpected events, and significant shifts. Lucy’s journey perfectly illustrates these aspects, providing deep insights that extend beyond her professional achievements. Episode Breakdown: 01:39—Meet Lucy Gernon: Two Decades in Biotech to a Two-Year Leap into Leadership Coaching 06:14—The Turning Point: How a Sudden Loss Rewrote the Script 10:39—Balancing Acts: Real Talk on Juggling Startups, Family, and Finances 14:48— How Being Coached Improves Her Coaching for Under-Confident Women 16:43—Defining Confidence: Lucy’s Take on an Overused Buzzword 18:59—Why Executive Presence Matters for Ambitious Women: Lucy’s Masterclass 22:59—Finding the Ideal Client: Lucy’s Journey Through Misses and Trials 26:28—AI vs. Human Touch: Lucy Explains What AI Can’t Replace in Coaching Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Lucy Gernon ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

What does the movie "Inside Out" teach us about leadership? My conversation with Wayland Lum from Copperbox Leadership Advisory, who brought up "fear is the precursor to courage," reminded me of Joy and Sadness in "Inside Out." The movie is all about human emotions. And there's this interesting dynamic between Joy and Sadness in the movie. The big lesson is that you can't really appreciate joy if you've never experienced sadness. I see a similar principle in what you were saying about fear and courage. They are not as separate as we might think. They are two sides of the same coin. In this episode, you'll find out why fear isn't your enemy, but rather your courage's hype man. Wayland also shared his 8 principles of modern leadership. His moves from California to Mexico to Chicago and London. From Nvidia to Chicago Booth to Korn Ferry, now building his own leadership advisory practice in Austin, Texas. Lastly, his views on the AI coaching. Episode Breakdown: 00:14—Welcome and Introductions: Meet Your Human Host (While Human Intelligence is still Valued) 02:54—The Great Escape: Why Wayland decided to ditch the cushy corporate life and bet on himself. Spoiler: It wasn't for the free snacks 11:33—"We Develop Modern Leaders to Face the Biggest Business Challenges": How Wayland Defines Modern in the Context of Leadership? 15:33—Wayland's Eight Principles of Modern Leadership: Get Grounded in Core Purpose Pick up the Torch of Leadership Understand the Origins of Humanity Embrace Life's Stages and Seasons See in Systems Nature as Majestic Teacher Shackles of Time Forged by Humans Technologies as Tools 24:48—Wayland on AI coaching: "Coaching involves human connection, empathy, and understanding deeply personal experiences. We must ask ourselves, is an interaction with AI what we want, or do we seek genuine human connection and support?" Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Wayland Lum ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

A Multi-Billion-Dollar Question for Employers: Is Your Next CEO More Likely to Be Chosen by an Algorithm or a Headhunter? In this episode of the Chief Change Officer podcast, host Vince Chan welcomes back Mary Shea, PhD, a seasoned tech leader in sales and revenue enablement, to discuss the evolving landscape of HR and recruitment. The conversation delves into Mary's career journey, from classical musician to a senior tech role, and her current collaboration with HR tech company HireQuotient. They explore how generative AI and sophisticated recruitment technology are transforming the hiring process, especially in identifying and engaging diverse candidates. Additionally, Vince and Mary discuss the importance of human touch in technology-driven recruitment, share personal anecdotes, and offer advice for job seekers navigating an increasingly AI-driven market. Episode Breakdown: 00:20—Welcome and Introductions: Meet Your Human Host (While I'm Still Employed) 03:17—HireQuotient: Where Mary Decided to Play Cupid Between Job Seekers and AI 09:01—Unveiling HireQuotient's Secret Sauce: Is It AI, Magic, or Just Really Good Coffee? 14:35—Myth-Busting Time: How Can AI Hire Better Fit and Higher-Skilled Candidates Than Just Entry-Level Positions? 22:28—Vince's Personal Tale: When AI Recruitment Felt More Human Than Human Recruiters (Plot Twist!) 32:26—Mary's Job-Seeking Wisdom: Navigate the AI Maze Without Losing Your Human Touch 36:51—Why You Should Still Network with Humans (At Least Until AI Learns to Enjoy Happy Hour) Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Mary Shea ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

This is Part 3 of a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.” This Pride Month, we’re celebrating the spirit of championing our true identities with a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.” Waverly Deutsch, a proud member of the LGBTQ community and a staunch advocate for women entrepreneurs, navigates her multifaceted identity with aplomb— from a theater lover to PhD, from a STEM major to MBA professor, and from retiree to a baby boomer coaching venture builder. Waverly, often compared to “the Simon Cowell of the Chicago Booth New Venture Challenge,” is celebrated not just for her straightforward feedback but for coupling it with practical, transformative advice. It’s this combination of tough love and insightful guidance that has influenced her approach to coaching underrepresented entrepreneurs at WyseHeart Advisory. Episode Breakdown: 00:21—Finale of the “Love & Logic” Trilogy: What’s in store for the final act of our three-part series? 3:24 — Wyseheart’s Big Pitch: Watch Waverly pitch her unique venture—think of it as Chicago Booth-quality coaching with a twist, aimed at empowering underrepresented entrepreneurs. It’s diversity with a dash of love and a pinch of logic. 10:45 — “Why It Matters for LBGTQ Entrepreneurs to Come Out”: In 2016, Waverly shared her insights on why it’s crucial for LGBTQ entrepreneurs to be visible on Chicago Booth Review. Fast forward to today, and discover why these discussions are more vital than ever. 15:20 — Addressing an Overlooked Age-related Challenge: Dive into Waverly’s perspective on ageism, a critical yet often ignored diversity and economics issue in both the workplace and the entrepreneurial world. 25:30 — The Origin of ‘Wyseheart’: Ever wondered where the name ‘Wyseheart’ came from? Uncover the story behind this heartfelt moniker. Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Waverly Deutsch ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

Ever had a mentor who changed your life, or maybe a coach who wasn’t just a coach but more of a life-saver? This is Part 2 of a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.” This Pride Month, we’re celebrating the spirit of championing our true identities with a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.” Waverly Deutsch, a proud member of the LGBTQ community and a staunch advocate for women entrepreneurs, navigates her multifaceted identity with aplomb— from a theater lover to PhD, from a STEM major to MBA professor, and from retiree to a baby boomer coaching venture builder. Waverly, often compared to “the Simon Cowell of the Chicago Booth New Venture Challenge,” is celebrated not just for her straightforward feedback but for coupling it with practical, transformative advice. It’s this combination of tough love and insightful guidance that has influenced her approach to teaching and entrepreneurship at WyseHeart Advisory. Episode Breakdown: 00:23 — Continuing the Journey in “Love & Logic”: Picking up where we left off last episode, what can listeners expect from this one and the next? 2:57 — Two Decades at Chicago Booth: “Undergrads bubble over with innovation, while executive MBAs might hold back on creativity,” Waverly observes. Explore how she navigates the diverse challenges faced by students at a top school, applying her signature blend of love and logic in teaching and coaching. 8:57 — Case Study in Compassion and Calculation: Meet Katlin Smith, who evolved Simple Mills from a fledgling startup in 2012 into one of 2023’s most innovative food companies, as named by Fast Company. How did Waverly’s guidance play a role? NVC = New Venture Challenge 18:07 — Coaching a World of Entrepreneurs: Transitioning from academic halls to the entrepreneurial arena, Waverly discusses the unique advantages and challenges of coaching a broad spectrum of innovators. 23:48 — The Art of Active Listening: “Excellent listening skills are crucial for effective learning and connecting,” says Waverly. She shares insights on engaging with entrepreneurs from diverse backgrounds. 27:11 — AI and Human Coaching: The Love and Logic Mix: While AI excels in logic, crafting flawless pitch decks and resumes, Waverly emphasizes, “Building a business is about fostering human relationships. AI might set the stage, but it’s the human touch that builds real connections with investors and employers.” Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Waverly Deutsch ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

This is Part 1 of our three-part series "Love and Logic." Waverly Deutsch joins us as our special guest to share how the dynamic interplay of passion and reason has shaped her career and life choices. This episode dives into Waverly’s captivating journey, with future episodes delving into her influential tenure at Chicago Booth and her latest venture, WyseHeart Advisory, which operates under the mantra of “tough love for entrepreneurs.” Why Waverly? Known as “the Simon Cowell of the Chicago Booth New Venture Challenge,” Waverly is celebrated for her straightforward feedback. Yet, unlike Cowell’s often blunt critiques, Waverly’s tough love always comes with a constructive twist. After telling someone, “You just talked for ten minutes and we have no idea what you do,” she’ll add, “and I want to work with you because there are three things we can do to fix it.” That’s the kind of coach and professor she is—direct yet deeply supportive. Episode Breakdown: 00:56 — Introduction to “Love & Logic” Series: What sparked this series? What can listeners expect from this episode and the ones to follow? 3:46 — Exploring Identities: “My twin passions for theatre and logic have always driven me,” Waverly shares. Discover how these seemingly disparate interests have shaped her approach to teaching and coaching. 7:45 — Breaking Ground in STEM: Journey back to the early ’80s as Waverly recounts her experience as one of the four women in her computer science class, finding her tribe among like-minded ‘nerds.’ 10:31 — Defying Gender Norms: Waverly reflects on her upbringing as a tomboy and challenges the traditional gender associations with love and logic. “These are human traits, not bound by gender,” she asserts. 12:41 — From Tech to Theatre: Why the dramatic shift from a computer science major to a Theatre PhD? Waverly explains, “I realized teaching is my calling.” 15:27 — A Serendipitous Detour: Joining Forrester Research early on and experiencing its growth to a public company—was it luck, destiny, or something else? 21:43 — The Art of Decision-Making: Waverly discusses how she navigates through career choices. “It’s about blending analysis with going with the flow,” she explains. 26:54 — Debunking Business Myths: “It’s a myth that business isn’t personal. At the end of the day, it’s all about people,” Waverly talks about the interplay of emotions in business. 34:44 — Filtering Out the Noise: How to deal with peer pressure and societal judgments? Waverly offers advice on building a supportive community and developing resilience, “so you can stand strong even when the world isn’t quite ready for you.” Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Waverly Deutsch ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

Let’s travel around the world in 40 minutes, shall we? In this special episode, Vince Chan takes you on a global journey, meeting twelve incredible career change leaders. Their stories are packed with learnable insights and actionable lessons to help you master your own career transitions with resilience and intelligence. Episode Breakdown: • 2:30 — Tin Pei Ling (Singapore): From Psychology Major to Elected Parliamentarian: Facing Ageism, Sexism, and Social Media Attacks. • 6:02 — Mary Shea (US and Mediafly): Oboe Musician to Revenue Enablement Expert: Sales as a Career Growth Equalizer. • 9:31 — Katie Curry (US and Bulgaria): Small-Town Girl to Wall Street Professional: Determining Risk Tolerance in Career Changes. • 13:31 — Irina Filippova (US and Russia): Russian Polyglot Diplomat to Energy Innovator in Cincinnati: I’m Not Wedded to a Specific Structure of Career. • 17:27 — Fatou Sagna Sow (France and Senegal): From Parisian Glamour to Segenal Innovator: Is Career Change Just About Money? • 21:23 — Juliana Schroeder (US and UC Berkeley): From Chicago Booth to Berkeley Haas: Enhancing Human Communication in the AI Era. • 27:39 — Greg Morley (US and France): Complaint Handler Turned Moët Hennessy’s Change Leader: Everyone Should Be a Chief Change Officer. • 30:11 — Josh Geballe (US and Yale): Yale Student Turned Yale Ventures Leader: Innovating at Yale is the Greatest Career. • 33:05 — Ryota Tanozaki (Japan): Salesperson-Turned-Travel Tech CEO: How I Build an E-commerce Company in Japan. • 35:17 — Steve Monaghan (Japan and Australia): Pilot-Turned-AI Investor and Banking Innovator: Why I Like and How I Thrive in Career Change. • 39:03 — Michael Levitt (US): Heart Attack Survivor Turned Chief Burnout Officer: Buy an Alarm Clock, Ditch Your Smartphone. • 42:18 — César Couto Ferreira (Portugal): Media and Entertainment Mogul Turned Legacy Architect: I Build People, not Products. Join us for this enlightening 40-minute world tour and become your own Chief Change Officer. Dive deeper into each story with specific episodes, all available for free and uninterrupted by commercials. Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

Can a philosopher's heart and a commercial executive's mind coexist for the greater good? Ask César, a former DJ, MTV and Vice Media executive, and champion at the Web Summit in Lisbon. When you're enveloped in a world of bubble-like glamour, man-made fame, grand titles, and substantial paychecks, it feels too comfortable to make even the slightest move. That's a push factor. However, don't overlook the pull factor: a vision on the horizon, a voice that is uniquely yours, your own intellectual property, your legacy, your trademarks. Career Change Master: César Couto Ferreira César, now based in Porto, initially dazzled as a DJ and TV presenter before sculpting a prominent executive career at MTV Networks, a pillar of global youth entertainment within Viacom's portfolio. In the midst of the industry's pivotal shift from analog to digital media, he led the charge in launching operations across Portugal, Italy, and Greece, working alongside music legends such as MADONNA, COLDPLAY, R.E.M., and AMY WINEHOUSE. After his impactful tenure at MTV, César took the reins as General Manager at Vice Media in Portugal. He later took a creative leap from SABSEG to Brazil, where he co-founded Fabrica de Futuro, pioneering new frontiers in media. Currently, César is involved in business development at olio.is and Streamhub, continuing to influence the changing media landscape. Episode Breakdown: 1:49 — Turning Tables: From Biotech Major to DJ at 23: Finding my rhythm in radio. 3:34 — Dream Job Manifested: From MTV Enthusiast to Europe’s Youngest Programming Manager. 4:48 — MTV Odyssey: A 9-Year Tour from Portugal to Greece 6:21 — Rein in Digital Sovereignty: Creating and Owning Your Intellectual Property 8:50 — Moment of Clarity: Amy Winehouse's Death Inspires a Jerry Maguire Moment. Insights from a career-defining realization. 12:51 — The Illusion of Glamour: The Realities of Working in Media and Entertainment. 14:22 — Renaissance at the Web Summit: Fueling Portugal’s Legacy with Global Talent. 21:47 — Beyond the Hype: Reading Curiously in an Age of Social Media Noise. Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Cesar Couto Ferreira ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

Would you call this bad luck or burnout—heart attack, job loss, car repossession, and home foreclosure, all happening to the same person in one year? More than ten years ago, Michael found himself in exactly this catastrophic situation. At that time, society was far less open about discussing burnout and its severe impacts on both individuals and companies. Facing these challenges head-on, Michael endured a heart attack induced by severe burnout—a modern-day epidemic equivalent to a heart attack in its sudden and profound impact. Having survived these trials, he has now shifted gears to assist people, leaders, and organisations, both large and small. Career Change Master: Michael D. Levitt San Diego's Michael began his career in the aisles of a grocery store. He has since cultivated expertise in diverse areas, including accounting, finance, IT support and operations, business development, healthcare, and insurance. Currently, Michael is the Chief Burnout Officer and Founder at Breakfast Leadership Network. Also, Michael hosts a Top 200 podcast . He is also the author of a book called Burnout Proof. Episode Breakdown: 1:58 — Origin of 'Chief Burnout Officer': Inspired by a Shower 3:57 — Breaking Free from Burnout: Michael's Journey Through a Life-Threatening Crisis 10:55 — Burnout Unites Us: A Social Media Exchange Highlights Its Global Impact 15:03 — Conquering Stigma: Strategies for High-Achieving CEOs and Professionals to Overcome Burnout 21:15 — Turning Tides in Toxicity: A Success Story of Drastically Reducing Turnover 24:54 — Office Politics: Sometimes You Can't Force the Horse to Drink 29:17 — Victimhood in the Workplace: Understanding the Limits of Influence Over Those Who Resist Change 30:17 — Burnout in Transitions: Navigating Career Changes Without Getting Burned Out 35:12 — Self-Therapy Techniques: Identifying Early Signs of Burnout to Prevent Deeper Issues 38:36 — Simple Solutions: Why an Old-Fashioned Alarm Clock Might Be the Antidote to Burnout Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Michael Levitt ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

How Did a Commercial Pilot Rise to Global Finance in 30 Years? Career Change Master: Steve Monaghan A former commercial pilot, Tokyo-based Steve has navigated a transformative 30-year career across industries and continents. His financial acumen has revolutionized major banks and tech companies, propelling him from Australia to Tokyo and the Middle East. Previous: Chairman & CEO of Gen.Life, Chief Innovation Officer at DBS Bank, Chief Digital Officer at Riyad Bank, Regional Director at AIA, General Manager of Individual Group at Shinsei Bank, Head of Consumer Finance at OCBC, VP of E-Commerce at Citi, and Product Manager at Dell and Compaq. Currently, Steve holds positions as Independent Non-Executive Director at RAKBANK, General Partner at FinMir.ai, Limited Partner at True Global Ventures, and Investor in HolyWally, Human AI, and Pulse iD. Episode Breakdown: 1:47 — Steve's odyssey: From aviation to tech titans and global banking 6:05 — Driving force: A thirst for learning 7:41 — Facing setbacks: Steve’s philosophy on learning from failure 10:19 — Outsider insight: Fueling innovation and change 11:12 — Steve's law of change: Turning 'No' into 'Now' 18:04 — The edge of age in the AI era 24:21 — A bold mission: Innovating real-time economy for social impact 28:12 — Championing mental wellness to support founders 36:04 — Building a balanced reading portfolio for continuous growth Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Steve Monaghan ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

How Did Japanese Shochu Salespersons Rise to Lead the Tech Revolution for 90,000+ Japanese Hotel Operators? Starting as a salesperson at Suntory, Tokyo-based Ryota Tanozaki has transformed his career over 20 years. Previous: Strategy Consultant at BearingPoint, Product Manager at Hakuhodo Consulting, Director at Frontier Management, General Manager at Transcosmos, Head of Instagram, and Head of Vertical Industry at Facebook. Currently, Ryota holds the position of President and CEO at Tabist, formerly known as OYO Japan, which is headquartered in India and was a joint venture with SoftBank Japan. He also teaches part-time at Globis University. Attached is the press release from SoftBank announcing the rebranding of OYO Japan to Tabist, with Ryota appointed as the CEO and President of the company's operations in the country. How we met: Ryota and I were Executive MBA classmates at Chicago Booth from 2013 and 2015. Episode Breakdown: 3:28 — Ryota's Odyssey: Journeying from Beverage Sales to Social Media and Cutting-Edge Travel Tech 6:30 — Pivotal Moments: How a Consulting Gig in Rural Japan Revolutionized Ryota’s Career Path 8:49 — A Strategic Pivot: Choosing an MBA at Chicago Booth After 15 Years in the Consulting Arena 14:30 — Navigating the Unforeseen: Adapting Ryota’s Career Strategy Amidst Challenges 16:07 — Crisis as a Catalyst: Steering Tabist Through a Rebrand as Japanese Tourism Faces COVID Challenges 20:12 — Tackling Top Challenges: Pushing Tabist to New Heights Amidst Adversity 25:32 — Leading by Example: Insights from Teaching at Globis University 27:09 — Inspiration Unpacked: The Two Books That Fuel Ryota’s Innovative Spirit Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Ryota Tanozaki ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

Would you ever consider leaving a secure and high-ranking position as a CFO at IBM Europe to join a startup in Connecticut as merely the 16th employee? Josh Geballe, took that exact leap, moving away from the corporate security he knew to embrace the thrills and challenges of a startup, guided by what he describes as his "gut feeling.” A former campaign manager for the US Representative Rosa DeLauro, New Haven-based Josh has crafted a 30-year progressive journey centered on two main themes: impact and challenge. Previously, he served as Vice President of Finance, Global Technology Services at IBM Europe, CEO of Core Informatics, Vice President and General Manager at Thermo Fisher Scientific, Chairman of the Board at CT Paid Leave, COO at the Office of the Governor in the State of Connecticut, and the Commissioner at the Connecticut Department of Administrative Services. As the COO during Connecticut’s COVID-19 health response, Josh faced a public health crisis of unprecedented scale, the likes of which no MBA curriculum could ever anticipate or equip its students to handle. (press conf link). Currently, Josh is the Managing Director at Yale Ventures, Senior Associate Provost for Entrepreneurship and Innovation at Yale University, Member of Boards at ClimateHaven, Connecticut Innovations, BioCT, AdvanceCT, and Guilford Savings Bank. Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Josh Geballe ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries

Here's a billion-dollar question for you: If you were a well-qualified legal counsel leading a global team of 50 and spearheading billion-dollar financial transactions at the world's largest banking groups, would you give all that up to deeply dive into building a developing economy in Africa? Most people would say no, because humans are risk-averse by nature. But Fatou Sagna Sow isn't most people. She is a change progressive. Fatou, born and bred in Paris, has worked as a financial lawyer at Societe Generale and BNP Paribas. After a prestigious stint, she has returned to her roots in Senegal, Africa. She moved her entire family—her husband and two children—from the glamorous and established life in Paris to the humble and untested grounds in Africa. Her mother called her "crazy." The salary is a significant downgrade. What motivated her to make such a life-changing move? How did she plan for it? How did she execute it with faith, boldness, and consistency? A former technical advisor to the President at The Economic, Social, and Environmental Council for Senegal, Fatou is currently the founder and CEO of New Deal Consulting. She is proud of driving economic well-being and technological growth in Senegal by empowering local youth alongside youth from France and other parts of Europe. Episode Breakdown: 2:53 — Returning to Roots: From Parisian upbringing to embracing her African heritage in Senegal. 7:48 — Planning the Pivot: The extensive preparation behind a 360-degree transformative move to a new continent. 10:38 — Why Senegal? Three driving forces behind the decision for change. 14:19 — Political Circles: The journey of serving as a Technical Advisor to the President of Senegal and navigating the corridors of power. 18:38 — Confronting Challenges and Difficulties, but… 24:09 — Creating Magic with Project Nana: Transforming banana fiber into essential products for women. 26:48 — Global Connections: Strengthening Senegal’s ties with countries like Japan, France, Monaco, India, and Korea. Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Fatou Sagna Sow ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries