Floris Gierman, host of the Extramilest Podcast and co-founder of PATH Projects, joins Josh Rosenthal to discuss his transition from skateboarding to ultra running, the importance of patience, and insights into low heart rate training. The conversation highlights the connection between running, community, and passion-driven pursuits.Importance of patience in running and personal goalsLow heart rate training for improved running efficiencyCommunity involvement and upcoming Salt Lake City run eventImpact of skateboarding culture on trail runningMindset and enjoying the process of running----Call RUNMORE649 (786-667-3649). Leave a message for the podcast—hot takes, agreement, anger, or joy.----Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---Borderlands.cc

Trail running has lost some of its fun, and in this discussion, Josh Rosenthal and Wolfrunner (Brian Peterson) delve into the need for the sport to embrace new ideas and bring back some of the old ones. Trail running has lost some of its playful spirit. How could trail running create NFL-type Thanksgiving energy? Listener calls Apple Ultra vs. Garmin Strava's kicked everyone out of the sandbox (killed its API) The effort to rebrand DNFs----Call RUNMORE649 (786-667-3649). Leave a message for the podcast—hot takes, agreement, anger, or joy.----Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---Borderlands

I went into this conversation ready to hate on NNormal and Taylor Bodin (lead trail reviewer of Believe in the Run) changed my mind. Trail Shoe Innovation: Brands like NNormal, Speedland, and Norda focus on durability and advanced materials like Dyneema and Vibram.Brand Differentiation: Niche brands are gaining ground with unique technologies and strong community ties.Performance Focus: Speedland’s Boa system and Michelin outsoles enhance fit, traction, and performance.Sustainability & Resources: NNormal’s partnership with Camper emphasizes eco-friendly production and resources.Market Renaissance: The trail shoe market is booming, offering a mix of performance and innovative design.----Believe in the Run reviews:NNormal: Tomir 2.0, KjeragSpeedland: GS:TAM, GS:PGH, SL:HSVNorda: Norda 001, Norda 002, Norda 003----Call RUNMORE649 (786-667-3649). Leave a message for the podcast—hot takes, agreement, anger, or joy.----Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---Borderlands.cc

How do trail runners survive in cities? Josh Rosenthal and Tommy Lewis dive into the challenges and rewards of maintaining a running lifestyle in urban environments. They discuss the unique rhythms of road running compared to trail running, exploring how each offers different forms of joy and fulfillment. Tommy shares his journey from trail enthusiast to urban runner, emphasizing the importance of redefining what it means to be a runner beyond traditional races like marathons. Together, they highlight the beauty of finding community, appreciating the outdoors, and embracing the daily practice of running, regardless of the terrain or distance.Tommy Lewis took the dive and left his dayjob to lean all the way in on ThatsRunnable.com. He writes a brilliant weekly newlsetter and speaks to heart of runners like few others can. ----Call the Borderlands Hotline - RUNMORE649 That's (786)667-3649. Leave a voice message I can play in a future podcast. We're looking for hot takes, disagreement, agreement, anger, happiness, indifference, etc.----Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInTakeaways: Finding joy in running is about defining it on your own terms, not others'. The community aspect of running can enhance the experience, regardless of the environment. Many runners mistakenly believe they must run marathons to be considered legitimate runners. Incorporating variety in training, such as mixing road and trail runs, is crucial. Embracing the daily practice of running fosters a lifelong love for the sport.

Bad Runners Take is back again with Wolffrunner. Running Brand Ambassador relationships. We get it. But they don't always work out. In this episode we run through it all calling out bad programs, celebrating good ones, soliciting some brands to build one.Please take this 60 second survey about the podcast.----Call the Borderlands Hotline - RUNMORE649 That's (786)667-3649. Leave a voice message I can play in a future podcast. We're looking for hot takes, disagreement, agreement, anger, happiness, indifference, etc. ----Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedIn

Matt Trappe recently started a Trail Running lifestyle brand called Auteur Sportif. He writes a brilliant substack (a Matter of Brand) celebrating running brands and their storytelling.In this episode we celebrate the great brands and enjoy a brainstorm how to make the good ones better.Please take this podcast survey. Please take this survey for our upcoming app, wylder.----Call the Borderlands Hotline - RUNMORE649 That's (786)667-3649. Leave a voice message I can play in a future podcast. We're looking for hot takes, disagreement, agreement, anger, happiness, indifference, etc.----Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedIn

This podcast episode dives deep into the controversial culture surrounding DNFs (Did Not Finish) in ultra running, with hosts Brian and Josh discussing the social constructs and emotional weight attached to these outcomes. Brian passionately argues that runners should be able to celebrate their efforts, regardless of whether they complete a race, pointing out the absurdity of labeling a significant distance as a failure. The conversation expands to explore the pressures and expectations placed on amateur runners compared to elite athletes, highlighting the different motivations and mentalities in play. Additionally, the hosts reflect on the implications of race metrics and how the ultra running community could evolve to better recognize the achievements of those who may not finish but still push their limits. With a mix of humor and serious reflection, the episode encourages listeners to reconsider how they perceive and react to DNFs in the sport.----Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInTakeaways: The DNF culture in ultra running creates unnecessary stigma around not finishing races. Runners invest significant time and effort into training, making DNFs feel like failures. There should be alternative metrics for race completion rather than just DNF statuses. Celebrating accomplishments in running, even if they don't result in a finish, is important. The podcast discusses how elite runners view DNFs differently than amateur runners. There is a need for a cultural shift in how we perceive and discuss DNFs.

In Episode 100 I introduced 4 songs along with their stories. In this episode I offer brief introduction and give you the music back to back without interuption.I'm calling this music project CAVALE. And this group of songs is called 'Into the Virgin Desert'. Again, thank you so much for listening and supporting.The future looks bright. I can't wait to do the next 100 episodes.----Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025Sealevel Insights. Imagine yourself complete in control of your small business finances.Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedIn

I wrote 4 songs of what I think midrace suffering sounds like.On the occassion of episode 100, I am releasing them along with what inpsired them and this podcast. Survey----Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedIn

In this episode we talk about articles by Marley for Canadian Running Magazine. In my opinion there is no better magazine on running news.U.S. running tourism company using disguised Russian plane for Antarctic raceRuth Chepngetich shatters women’s world record at Chicago MarathonU.S. ultrarunner Camille Herron involved in Wikipedia controversyRunning influencer Matt Choi disqualified from New York City MarathonThe latest episode of the Borderlands Trail podcast dives deep into the complexities of recent stories in the running world, including a significant discussion on the implications of using pacers in marathon races, highlighted by Ruth Chepngetich's record-setting performance in Chicago. Host Josh Rosenthal and journalist Marley Dickinson explore how the use of pacers can alter the nature of competition, raising questions about authenticity and strategy in elite races. The conversation also touches on the ongoing saga surrounding Camille Herron and the fallout from her recent controversies, as well as a scandal involving a Russian airline used for a major marathon event. The duo examines the broader implications for athletes and the sport, including the potential for increased scrutiny and the ethics of competitive running. As they unpack these narratives, listeners are invited to consider what defines true competition in the world of athletics.----Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedIn

Hoka is directly repsonsible for much of the exponential growth of trail running.The Best Hoka Running Shoes Right Now.Josh Rosenthal and Taylor Bodin (Lead Trail Reviewer, Believe in the Run) dive deep into the world of HOKA, a brand that has revolutionized trail and ultra running with its innovative footwear. They discuss how HOKA emerged during a time dominated by minimalist trends, introducing a maximalist approach that has reshaped expectations in the running community. Taylor shares insights about the evolution of HOKA's shoe technology, including the introduction of high stack cushioning and rocker designs that enhance performance. The conversation highlights the brand’s impressive growth, underscored by their recent success in exceeding sales projections, and its impact on the broader trail running landscape.Throughout their discussion, Josh and Taylor emphasize HOKA's commitment to the running community, showcasing how the brand continues to engage with athletes and enthusiasts alike.----[Sponsor] Sealevel Insights: Imagine mastering your small business finances.Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInTakeaways: HOKA has revolutionized the ultra trail running market with its maximalist shoe design. The brand's unique approach contrasts sharply with the minimalist trend popularized by Born to Run. HOKA's deep connection to the community is evident through their support of events like Devil's Gulch 100 Miler. Taylor Bodine's insights provide a comprehensive view of HOKA's shoe technology evolution since 2009. The Speedgoat shoe, named after Carl Meltzer, is a favorite among ultra runners for its performance. HOKA's success is attributed to its innovative marketing strategies and commitment to quality gear.

Today on Bad Runners Take:Are 200-mile races becoming a distraction or the main attraction in the ultra running community? How do you feel about profitable races existing on volunteer labor?Josh got into the Paris Marathon. Why is it so hard for trail runners to run on the road for a season?Josh Rosenthal and Brian Peterson dive into these questions as they explore the growing prominence of these long-distance events. They discuss the implications for elite athletes like Courtney Dauwalter, who is preparing for Cocodona 250, and how such races might shift focus away from traditional 100-mile competitions. The conversation also touches on the culture of volunteerism in the sport, particularly in relation to profitable races, and the balance between community support and financial gain. As the two navigate these topics, they reflect on their own running experiences and the evolving landscape of trail and ultra running.----Devil's Gulch 100 miler, 50 miler, 13.1 miles. Wenatchee, WA - July 13, 2025Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races. Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.--- The conversation discusses whether 200-mile races distract from the main attraction of ultra running. Courtney's participation in Cocodona illustrates the growing popularity of 200-mile races. Volunteers play a crucial role in the success of ultra running events, yet compensation raises questions. Josh reflects on the conflict between road marathons and his identity as a trail runner. The evolution of running shoes from durability to performance models has shifted expectations. There's a debate on whether elite runners should focus solely on traditional 100-milers. BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedIn

Cirque Series is a brilliant mountain race with distances between 6 and 9 miles. But don't be fooled ultrarunners. Cirque races are hard as hell, straight up the gut of big mountains and right back down. The starting line is a party.The finish line is a party.In this episode I welcome the founder and race director, Julian Carr. ----In this conversation, Josh and Julian discuss the evolution of ultra trail running, focusing on the Cirque Series and its unique approach to inclusivity and race production. They explore the importance of creating a fun and engaging atmosphere at races, overcoming skepticism from the traditional trail running community, and the significance of high production value in enhancing the overall experience for runners. In this conversation, Julian discusses the evolution of trail running events, emphasizing the importance of a rewarding experience for participants. He reflects on the challenges of creating a unique atmosphere that transcends traditional trail running, while also addressing the scalability of his event series and the significance of community engagement and sponsorship. The discussion highlights the cultural movement of trail running in the U.S. and the potential for storytelling to enhance the experience for both elite and amateur runners.----Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races - May 31VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Thomas Neuberger joined me from Believe in the Run to talk about the familiy feud that built two great running empires. Puma + Adidas.Rudi and Adi were the perfect team until they weren't. They spent most of their adult years at odds and eventually were buried at opposite ends of the same cemetary.We dig into the family feud and talk about the current road and trail portfolio.More from Believe in the Run:Adidas Adizero Evo SL ReviewA comprehensive overview of Adidas' shoe portfolio.Adidas TERREX AgrivacPUMA MagmaxPUMA Deviate Nitro 3----Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races - May 31, 2025VKTRY InsolesPATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

In this conversation, Josh and Drew Darby discuss Matt Johnson's journey across Texas in 17 days and Sally McRae's 200 mile Mammoth Project.Drew Darby was there for both. They explore the challenges faced during the adventures, the dynamics of being a cameraman, and the unique character of Matt as a hybrid athlete. The discussion also touches on the mindset required for endurance sports, Project Mammoth featuring Sally McCrae, and what lies ahead for Matt in his athletic career. In this conversation, Drew and Josh delve into the intricacies of documenting endurance sports, exploring the balance between storytelling and authenticity. They discuss the evolution of endurance events, the creative process behind filmmaking, and the impact of media on athletes' performances. Drew shares insights on capturing genuine moments while navigating the challenges of filming in high-pressure environments. The conversation highlights the importance of long-term relationships in filmmaking and the unique experiences that arise during endurance challenges.----Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races - May 31, 2025VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

In this conversation, Josh and Brian explore the world of running, focusing on the Satisfy brand and its unique appeal to a specific audience. They discuss the recent success of Satisfy runners at Moab 240, the cultural significance of trail memorabilia, and the historical context of running events. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of identity in sports and how brands like Satisfy resonate with runners who seek authenticity and connection to their lifestyle. In this conversation, Josh and Wolfrunner delve into the upcoming Javelina race, discussing the weather challenges, the competitive field, and the nostalgic elements of ultra running. They explore the significance of the Golden Ticket Series and its potential for greater media attention. The discussion also touches on the branding strategies of Speedland and the implications of their athlete ambassador program.----VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Does Josh have the necessary credibility to build a trail running media company? He's not a former pro runner or even a good runner. In fact he chases cutoffs most of the time. He only has one elite trail running friend. Does he belong at the table?In this episode of the Borderlands podcast, host Wolfrunner interviews Josh Rosenthal, exploring his journey from Lubbock, Texas to Salt Lake City. They discuss Josh's upbringing, the cultural dynamics of Lubbock, his musical influences, and the impact of geography on happiness and identity. The conversation delves into the importance of boredom in fostering creativity and the contrasting experiences of growing up in different environments. In this conversation, Josh shares his journey of moving to Salt Lake City, building connections through running, and navigating the challenges of entrepreneurship. He reflects on the unique sports culture in Salt Lake, the emotional power of running, and the importance of supporting others in their dreams. Josh discusses his musical aspirations, the entrepreneurial spirit he developed during his punk rock days, and how he discovered a passion for finance. He emphasizes the significance of marketing in sharing creations and the methodical approach he took towards achieving his ultra running goals. In this conversation, Josh shares his experiences with running, entrepreneurship, and the challenges of balancing passion with business. He discusses the importance of relationships in building a successful venture and reflects on the dynamics of the trail running community. The conversation also touches on the significance of credibility, authority, and relatability in the running space, as well as the role of luck in achieving success.----VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Brooks Running remains a prominent name in the footwear industry, yet it often feels like an enigma within the trail running community. Josh Rosenthal and Taylor Bodin (Lead Trail Reviewer at BiTR) dive deep into this paradox, exploring why, despite their widespread presence and extensive history, Brooks doesn't quite resonate as a go-to brand for trail runners. Believe in the Run - Catamount 3BiTR - Caldera 7BiTR - Catamount AgilBiTR - Brooks Divide 5BiTR - Cascadia 18They discuss the evolution of Brooks' product line, highlighting key innovations and the significance of athletes like Scott Jurek in shaping the brand's identity. The conversation also touches on the need for Brooks to embrace more modern marketing strategies and storytelling to better connect with today's runners. With insights into specific shoe models like the Cascadia and Caldera, they illustrate how Brooks can leverage its legacy while pushing for innovation to regain its status as a leader in the trail running market.----Salt Lake Foothills Trail RacesVKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android. Brooks Running, a brand that has long been synonymous with running shoes, presents an intriguing paradox in the world of trail running. Despite its extensive availability and established presence, many runners find it difficult to associate Brooks with cutting-edge trail running technology or innovative design. The conversation between Josh Rosenthal and Taylor Bodeen dives deep into this enigma, exploring the legacy of Brooks, its historical significance in the evolution of trail footwear, and the challenges it faces in contemporary markets. They discuss the iconic Cascadia model, which has served as a staple for many trail runners, and reflect on how it once dominated the landscape of trail running shoes. The discussion also touches on the need for Brooks to innovate and revitalize its brand perception, especially as newer brands like Speedland and Norda capture the...

Join Josh Rosenthal as he dives deep into the transformative power of trail running with coach Kevin Brown, who recently completed the grueling Race Across Scotland. This conversation highlights the profound connection between running and personal growth, particularly for men seeking to overcome challenges and find purpose in their lives. Kevin shares his journey from a midlife crisis to becoming an inspiring figure in the ultra-running community, emphasizing the importance of building supportive male friendships and holding space for one another. The discussion also touches on the unpredictability of Scottish weather during the race and the incredible camaraderie that emerges among participants. Through their exchange, listeners will discover valuable insights into how running can serve as a powerful tool for mental clarity, connection, and self-discovery.Coach Kev's IGMind Masters GB Ultras (Race Across Scotland)----May 31, 2025 - Salt Lake Foothills Trail RacesVKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.----Josh Rosenthal, the host of the Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running podcast, engages in a heartfelt conversation with Kevin Brown, a coach from Scotland who recently completed the grueling Race Across Scotland, a 220-mile ultra-marathon. The discussion delves into the transformative power of running, not just as a physical challenge but as a means of emotional and mental release. Brown reflects on his journey from feeling lost in life to finding purpose through ultra running, which he describes as a way to 'park' his daily stresses and process them while on the trail. The conversation touches on the importance of community and connection among men, emphasizing how relationships can serve as a lifeline for personal growth and well-being. This episode offers listeners an intimate look at how running can be a vehicle for self-discovery and healing, making it relatable to anyone facing their own struggles, regardless of their running background.Takeaways: The essence of trail running lies in the connection to nature and the freedom it brings to the mind. Coach Kev emphasizes the importance of male connections for mental health and personal growth. Running allows individuals to process their emotions and build resilience against life's challenges. Community support in running can lead to profound transformations in personal lives and relationships. The race across Scotland serves as a testament to perseverance and the beauty of the journey. Engaging in ultra running is not just about competition, but about understanding one's inner self. ---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in...

The podcast dives deep into the Golden Trail World Series, shedding light on its significance in the trail running scene. Hosts Josh Rosenthal and Brian Peterson discuss how this series offers a thrilling competitive atmosphere, showcasing elite athletes in shorter, intense races that emphasize speed and vertical ascent. They reflect on a particularly controversial finish at the recent Mammoth Trail Fest, highlighting the fierce desire to win that defines this sport. The conversation also explores the production quality of the Golden Trail events, noting how it elevates the viewing experience compared to traditional trail running broadcasts. Ultimately, the episode encourages listeners to embrace this growing series and consider its potential to reshape the competitive landscape of trail running.----Run the Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races • May 31, 2025 • 10k | Half Merry | 50k---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android. ----Takeaways: The Golden Trail World Series has emerged as a competitive platform for trail runners globally, showcasing talent beyond just the American names. Understanding the unique point system of the Golden Trail World Series reveals the strategic nature of this championship. The recent controversial finish at Mammoth highlighted the intense competition and desire to win in trail running. Salomon's sponsorship has significantly impacted the Golden Trail World Series, driving athlete participation and event production quality. The series offers a variety of distances, emphasizing shorter races that still challenge athletes with significant vertical gain. The high production value of the Golden Trail Series events sets a new standard for trail running media coverage.

Nico lives in Hamburg, Germany. A few weeks ago he ran his first ultramarathon at the age of 52 proving that this sport is gift that keeps on giving.In this episode you can expect to learn:• The uniqueness of German Ultrarunning Culture• 3 must-run ultras in Germany• Nico’s take on running races on the former Easten Germany landNow is the best time to run your first ultra no matter how old.AdventslaufNorth Sea Ultra----PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android. VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.

Taylor Bodin is the Lead Trail Reviewer at Believe in the Run. I'm a big fan of BiTR and beyond stoked to have Taylor join me to deep dive into gear and the history of some storied brands. A lot of people still see North Face for what it was in the early 2000s and they're missing out on something special. Its effort into trail running shoes is elevating the industry. Expect to learn about the history of North Face in trail running, the reason shoes have a drop, and a lot more gear geekery.Anatomy of a ShoeAltamesa 500 ReviewVective Pro 2 ReviewAltamesa 300 ReviewVectiv Performance ReviewTNF x IKB CollectionTNF Endurance Challenge----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Marley Dickinson wrote the Camille Herron articles for Candian Running.This one about what happened and this one about the fallout.In this episode we talk about how the article came together and the fallout from it.We both hope to see Camille restored to her rightful place in ultrarunning but the path back might be filled with obstacles.Marley Dickinson is a writer for Canadian Running and a coach. I admire the work he is doing at Canadian Running and hope to have him on in the future to talk Diamond League running.----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Ben Whitehead joins the Borderlands podcast to give a first hand account of the Leadville 100. This episode is perfect for anyone who wants to get to run Leadville. Or for someone who knows they never will but wants to hear all about the iconic course and experience. Ben Whitehead ran Leadville 100 as his first 100 miler. Is he crazy? Yes. Is that bad? Absolutely not. Ben's crazy was very calculated giving him a solid finish at a very hard race.----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

If burning man were an ultra, it would be Javelina Jundred by Aravailpa. This episode is for anyone who has ran or will run this race and enjoys ultras and/or ultra culture. This means its basically for everyone.@wolffrunner joins me. He's run multiple distances of JJ and brings his usual insight to the show.----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Jacob found his way to ultrarunning as a place to quiet his mind. And we're all beneficiaries of his work. He's a war photographer who brought his skills to the ultrarunning space and took the most popular photo in the history of ultrarunning probably (here).When his Kickstarter goes live we will share it.Jacob's InstagramJacob's website----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Brian joins me again to offer some Bad Runners' Takes to the world.I got beat up for even suggesting that Katie Schide might be headed towards GOAT status over Courtney Dauwalter. So Brian and I asked why we can't even ask the question. We deviate to talk about the rock stars of old like Anton and Hal. Where did all the rock stars go in trail running? Will we have an era like that again?----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Salomon has been with us on the trails for a while pioneering mountain racing shoes and both evolving with the industry and stayin true to its core values. In this episode, Taylor Bodin (Lead Trail Reviewer of Believe in the Run) talks with Josh about the past, present, and future hitting on the important points of Salomon's impact on trail running.Believe in the Run reviews + articles:Salomon Genesis ReviewS/Lab Pulsar 3 ReviewS/Lab Ultra Glide First ThoughtsSalomon x Ciele collab----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

What are the criteria we should use to crown the capital of North American Trail Running?Here are some of my thoughts.Number of elite ultrasNumber of non elite ultrasNumber of elite runnersVaried trail terrainNumber of dirtbagsNumber of bandit racesTrailhead proximity to great restaurants Which of these do you like? What would you add?Why am I doing this?1. Fun2. Funner ----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Lars Pedersen founded SAYSKY running in 2013. It's among the first micro running brands still in existence.In this espidose you'll learn about the history of SAYSKY Running, Lars' life as a windsurfer and how that led him to start SaySky.It's deeply connected to Copenhagen but is very much an international brand.SaySky----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

My whole adult life has been about celebrating and championing Salt Lake City. In this episode I get a little bit personal on what I think is so great about it even beyond trail running.Also, I interview Joey Hendrix to talk about our contribution to Utah being crowned the apex trail running capital - Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races.Register for Salt Lake Foothills Trail RacesWatch our video about Salt Lake City being the trail running capital. ----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Remember the Titans. Leadville, Badwater, + Dean Karnazes were once the pinnacle of our sport. So what happened?They're all doing fine. The races are sold out, Dean stays busy.But when Brian and I started trail running in the early 2010s these titans were celebrated. Not tracking? Listen as we bring you along making a case that they belong to be restored to their rightful place.Wolffrunner is back with me on a new episode of Bad Runner's Take.----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Three things. Wasatch 100 - is this the best 100 miler in the world? I think so. But I'm really biased.UTMB - Did it live up to the hype? It gave us the best two scenarios possible. A no-name came out of nowhere to win the men's race and the expected exceeded expectations in the women's race.Inspirition. I live off it and it's hard to find. Here are three things inspiring me right now in trail. Hayden's CommentsBilly Yang collabTommy Lewis----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Happy UTMB week. @wolffrunner joins me on Bad Runners take to talk UTMB.Forget about the drama surrounding UTMB over the last year for a week (if not forever). If you don't like the juggernaut of UTMB, disregard them. But don't disregard the 10,000 people running in the mountains around Mont Blanc. This week we celebrate the human spirit taking them from point A to point B, the French culture that surrounds it, and the Heart of Trail Running moving like an avalanche as the running world watches runners take care of business in French/Italian/Swiss Alps.Brian and I go into topics and recall moments you won't hear anywhere else this year.Favorite UTMB momentsIs trail running ready for super fandom?UTMB doubled its prize money. Is that enough?2024 picks----Brian's interview with Troy on Midpacker Pod.Billy Yang's UTMB film of Zach Miller + David Laney----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

I asked the Borderlands audience who I should talk to about my fascination with running a road ultra. The number one suggestion was Jacob Puzey. After this conversation I understand why. He brings the perfect insight as a decorated road and trail runner, former coach and trail race director. There's a flow state in running not available to trail runners that comes with repetitive and predictable terrain.I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.Jacob Puzey5 Peaks Trail Running----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

In this episode we explore a Term of Endurance: Race Director. Do we really understand what these RDs put themselves through to put on the local and regional races? They're not full time. It's a massive lift.I had the good fortune to sit with two local Copenhagen legends, Rasmus and Robin, to talk Danish running and compare Europe running to American running. As much as they're different, the spirit of running transcends politics and borders. The interview with Robin and Rasmus begins at 14:36.Rasmus Holst, CEORobin Daniels, CBOZinsai----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Randi Zuckerberg is new the sport of ultratrail. If you're an old grumpy get-off-my-lawn trail runner you will hate this conversation because Randi is an enthusiastic evangelist for the sport of trail running.She left the road for trail running about a year ago and dove in head first. Randi's post about her DNFRandi's primary business focus: HUG----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

In 2019 Jeremy Cox ran the Buffalo 100 only to finish dead last after the finish line had been torn down. How did he keep going? Why? We told this story to tell the ultra trail world that every runnerf has a story and no matter how you toe the line, you are a badass and you belong in the trail community.DFL Before DNF on YouTube.Ending song: Long Enough by Josh Rosenthal----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

What is Borderlands Trail Running? It's not obvious, I know. Bottom line, I love the trail running industry and want to grow it because I genuinely believe the world will be a better place. In this episode I explain why Borderlands exists, what its doing, and where its going.We review the mission, the manifesto, and all the ways I'm trying to send the mission into the ultratrail world.I bring a new segment called '3 Things' where tell you about three things I love. This will almost always be running but sometimes it may go beyond.. Noted in the episode:Satisfy x HokaThomas Neuberger + Believe in the Run----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Hellbender 100 in North Carolina is quite a race. Tons of vert and (b)East coast running to the max. Rooty and steep and relentless. It's also now a Hardrock qualifier if that tells you anything about its course profile.Troy Meadows is the host of the MidPacker Pod and one of my favorites to have on the show. He's insightful and careful with his words. He clearly loves the sport and it shows in this conversation with me and in every conversation he has on his show.----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

It's hard to pick one single race that emobidies the American Western trail running experience. Buffalo 100 is a strong candidate. From the race director to the course to running with Buffalos in sight, this race is special.----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every runPATH Projects - My favorite running shorts---MoreBorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Elite Trail Running athletes deserve every single dollar a brand will give them in a contract, but is it sustainable? Can the industry support sponsoring athletes?I don't think the current model is sustainable and this episode goes into depth on why.Caveat, I'm probably in the top 1% of elite trail running fans. I'm asking this question because I love this sport and want it to grow. But it doesn't help to simply cheer it on as-is. It needs a critical look.----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

I love the 100 mile distance. And in this episode I go for my 10th 100 miler on my favorite course in the world - Zion by Vacation races. I hope you enjoy listening to this as much as I enjoyed making it with my friend Ben of Honey Videography.Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, click to get 20% offPATH Projects - My favorite running shorts---MoreBorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

A wise trail runner has many counselors. There's no other way. The sport is challenging by design and this episode is my pursuit of wisdom from those who have gone before me/----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every runPATH Projects - My favorite running shorts---MoreBorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

This week on a bad runners take:Big Trail Running • it’s a consolidation of attention around a few names and events but is trail running to new as a spectators sport to do it to this scale?Volunteer Labor • there’s lots of money to be made in trail running events. Are RDs dependent on volunteer labor? It’s the industry standard but is it ok for a for profit entity to rely on volunteer labor?Leadville • it exists in its own world and plays by its own rules. And I’m excited for it.----Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every run, 20% off.PATH Projects - My favorite running shorts, Borderlands10 for 10% off.---BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Despite all my 100 mile failures I'm going to try again. Before I do, I need to see how my fitness is coming along. In this episode I run the Dead Horse 50 miler by Mad Moose in Moab, Utah to see how my fitness is progressing.VKTRY Insoles - I wear these on every runPATH Projects - my favorite shorts to run in----BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

Why do we keep going after the big goals that crush us? I'm obsessed with the 100 mile distance even though it continues to crush me. I've DNFed 8 of 9 100 mile attempts. And I'm back for more. VKTRY Insoles - I wear these on every runPATH Projects - my favorite shorts to run in----BorderlandsInstagramYouTubeWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.

PATH Projects started in 2017 to solve a problem: running shorts. They were mostly designed by shoe companies who are looking to increase average transaction sizes when runners are buying shoes. In this episode we explore Scott Bailey and Brian Rather's history as founders of  @pathprojects . Scott start SPLIT, Kr3w, and Supra Footwear. Brian started a denim company acquired by Huckberry and went on to develop inhouse brands for Huckberry and others.The amount of experience here is staggering and since their relaunch in 2023, they're making waves in trail running.---Sponsors:VKTRY Insoles - I wear these every runPATH Projects - My favorite running shorts---MoreBorderlandsInstagramYouTubeThreadsLinkedInWe've got an app in beta called Wylder by Borderlands. Check it out on iOS or Android.