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AttractionPros brings you into the room with the top leaders, executives, and influencers in the attractions industry, to gain the widest possible perspective of all areas of the industry. Most people are only exposed to the practices of their own organization without seeing how the rest of the industry operates. By following AttractionPros, you will gain the skills and knowledge needed to succeed and learn from the best of the best, whether you are the CEO or just beginning your career.
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19/12/2023

Episode 328 - Reggie Williams talks about being thrust into leadership, parallels between sports and business and listening to the pain

Keep connecting with IAAPA in 2024! Join your colleagues and peers at the IAAPA FEC Summit from January 21st to the 23rd in San Antonio, Texas. Or, plan to celebrate the industry’s most significant achievements at the new IAAPA Honors event held in conjunction with the IAAPA North America Summit, March 3rd to the 5th in Las Vegas. We can’t wait to see you there! Visit IAAPA.org for more information.   Reggie Williams is a lifelong athlete and community leader who spent 14 years in the NFL with the Cincinnati Bengals before being hired as Director of Sports Development for Disney on April 19, 1993. In the mid-1990s, he oversaw the creation of Disney’s Wide World of Sports Complex, a state-of-the-art 220-acre multi-sport facility that hosts more than 180 athletic events annually in some 30 sports. By 1998, he had become Vice President of Disney Sports Attractions, where he oversaw a newly created sports and recreation division that merged Walt Disney World Resort Recreation, Water Parks, and Disney Sports Attractions. In this interview, Reggie talks about being thrust into leadership, parallels between sports and business and listening to the pain.    Being thrust into leadership "In leadership, everyone is watching you." Reggie tells the story about how in college he was put in the position of leading calisthenics for the football team. He didn’t know much about leadership at that point, but was about to learn on the fly.  The first lesson is that everyone is watching you. That’s as true on the football field as it is in the community or a board room. Remembering that helps leaders hold themselves accountable, positively influence those around them and make a lasting impression they can be proud of.   Parallels between sports and business "The similarity between teams in sports and business is how you get better." To win games, teams in sports will study their opponent, the conditions, the players, the strategies and schemes to prepare mentally for doing battle on any given day. They will also prepare physically by working out, running plays, and doing drills so they are ready for any situation.  Winning in business is a little harder to measure, but the process for business teams involves understanding the competitive landscape, adjusting your product or offering and working together to be innovative.  In both of these cases, it is the process of being a team that helps individuals improve.    Listening to the pain "Listening is a skillset." The ability to listen is one of the most critical skills of any athlete, leader, community member or human being! Listening validates people and builds relational bridges that are required to accomplish great things for your sports team, community or business.  To solve meaningful problems, leaders must listen for the pain that others are experiencing. This way you can work toward meaningful solutions that help everybody, even members of rivals city gangs.    To connect with Reggie, you can find him on Facebook. Reggie’s book, Resilient by Nature: Reflections from a Life of Winning On and Off the Football Field is available on Amazon.    This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas   To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
55m
12/12/2023

Episode 327 - Matt and Josh recap the 2023 IAAPA Expo

Keep connecting with IAAPA in 2024! Join your colleagues and peers at the IAAPA FEC Summit from January 21st to the 23rd in San Antonio, Texas. Or, plan to celebrate the industry’s most significant achievements at the new IAAPA Honors event held in conjunction with the IAAPA North America Summit, March 3rd to the 5th in Las Vegas.   We can’t wait to see you there! Visit IAAPA.org for more information. The 2023 IAAPA expo proved to be nothing short of incredible. From mesmerizing drone shows to jam-packed education sessions, this expo was a standout event. As attendance continues to grow each year since the pandemic,, the 2023 expo provided something meaningful for everyone and helped catapult our industry into the coming year. In this episode, Matt and Josh talk about their key takeaways from IAAPA’s 2023 convention from their on-the-floor and bird’s eye perspectives.  IAAPA Expo is one of the best indicators of the overall health of the attractions industry.   With a crowded show floor and people lining every corner, IAAPA proved to be an exciting and energetic environment. Since its beginning, IAAPA has consistently served as a strong indicator of the health of the industry, showing the progress from concern and caution in the pandemic to the excitement and risk-taking that we’re seeing again today.  Our industry provides so many avenues to be passionate about.   IAAPA encapsulates so many avenues of our industry under one roof, and provides a great opportunity not only to specialize in an avenue, but also to learn about different tracks and take great nuggets of information to apply elsewhere. Valuable lessons transcend boundaries; even individuals in HR can glean insights from the more imaginative, and vice versa. By allowing for these avenues to learn from each other, innovation can be born and our industry can go even further.    Guest service training for frontline staff should include service recovery and complaint resolution.   Josh shared that throughout his expo experience, the number one issue he found is that not enough employers train their frontline staff on service recovery and complaint resolution. Service failures and guest complaints are part of the standard operation, and thus should be incorporated into our frontline staff’s training. Everybody loses when the manager gets involved, and our frontline staff should be well-equipped to get dissatisfied guests back on track to being satisfied.  IAAPA Expo provides ample opportunities to overcome fears and expand your professional development.   Many people accomplished something for the first time at this year's expo. So many people struggle with getting on the stage and sharing their knowledge, and many others struggle with imposter syndrome and confidence. IAAPA provides a safe and exciting place to overcome these fears, and it helps expand people’s confidence and skills like networking and sales that can boost their professional development.  Investing in your team's professional development pays off substantially in the long run.   Providing an investment in a young leader’s future can pay off substantially in the long run, and experiential learning is a priceless way to grow and develop a team. The offerings in Orlando are endless, and people can learn from their experiences at parks like Disney, Universal, and LEGOLAND in addition to their time at IAAPA. Young leaders in the industry are just as hungry as they are impressionable, and that investment will be priceless. This year's IAAPA Expo shows that the industry embraces creativity, innovation, and risk-taking.   The reveals and announcements at this year’s expo were far beyond anything that the exhibitors at IAAPA have previously offered. This year, we saw the industry not just follow the standard path, but take chances and go outside of its comfort zone. From gravy trains to brand-new coaster styles, we saw the industry saying “Why Not?” more than ever this year, generating even more excitement and energy on the show floor.  Were you at IAAPA Expo 2023?  Tell us your biggest takeaway!  Click here to leave us a voice message in the Speakpipe.  To learn more about IAAPA, including events they host throughout the year all over the world, click here.  This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan Summary written by Mason Nichols To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
43m
05/12/2023

Episode 326 - Matt and Josh talk about the Hospitality Mentality

Keep connecting with IAAPA in 2024! Join your colleagues and peers at the IAAPA FEC Summit from January 21st to the 23rd in San Antonio, Texas. Or, plan to celebrate the industry’s most significant achievements at the new IAAPA Honors event held in conjunction with the IAAPA North America Summit, March 3rd to the 5th in Las Vegas. We can’t wait to see you there! Visit IAAPA.org for more information.   It’s time to change the way we think about customer service.  For so many years, we’ve heard phrases like “treat the customer with respect,” “put yourself in the guest’s shoes,” “customer service is just about being nice,” or “the customer is always right.”  In Josh’s new book, The Hospitality Mentality, he offers a fresh perspective to customer service that aligns more with guest experience and loyalty instead of traditional customer service.  While the concepts apply to all business types, the book was written with the attractions industry top of mind.  In this episode, Matt and Josh explore The Hospitality Mentality, covering topics that include working with people, how hospitality is for everyone, and how our guests don’t need us.   Working with people The hospitality industry, including attractions, requires a desire to work with people as a requirement for the job, and therefore isn’t for everyone. However, even if you are a people person, without a proper understanding and implementation of the Hospitality Mentality, an organization won’t be able to deliver the fantastic service standard they want to provide to their guests.  To add context, Josh reminisces about a restaurant he visited, noting that it was staffed with excellent employees who believed they were well-suited for the hospitality industry due to their kindness and authenticity. However, despite their admirable intentions, the lack of a hospitality mindset made the overall experience frustrating for visitors, despite the fact that the employees were “nice,” and the restaurant ultimately closed.   Hospitality is more than an industry Josh shares that hospitality is a universal language that extends beyond the leisure industry. Connecting the dots of Josh's ideas reveals the simplicity of applying these principles to any context, but mostly those involving human interaction. Throughout the process of publishing his book, Josh has shared many stories on how these ideas have gone beyond the walls of the attractions industry. A manager at a child support call center found value in adopting multiple ideas that not only enhanced the service provided, but also positively impacted their team. Furthermore, a member of a homeowner’s association shared that they wished the association had the Hospitality Mentality to make the experience even more enjoyable and swiftly resolve issues for its members.   Guests don’t need us Josh shared a simple principle in his book that centered around one idea: guests don't need us. However, Josh uses this as an opportunity, and breaks it down into a simple three-step idea that helps build the hospitality mentality.  First, it’s important to know that guests don’t need us, which leads us to Josh's second point; guests’ alternative options are limitless. Alternative options can span from direct, local competition all the way to streaming services and at-home entertainment. Knowing this, Josh shares that we need to show our guests that we know that. Guests come to an experience expecting it to exceed all the direct and indirect competitors, and we need to prove them right by providing the best possible experience they can ask for.    To learn more about The Hospitality Mentality (and to purchase a signed copy), click here. As of December 5th, 2023, The Hospitality Mentality is available at your favorite bookstore and online.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan Summary written by Mason Nichols To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
40m
28/11/2023

Episode 325: Greg Fuller talks about taking care of the team, the Anakeesta experience and getting out of your comfort zone

Greg Fuller is the General Manager of Anakeesta, a renowned mountaintop park in Gatlinburg, Tennessee. Greg started in the attractions industry at the age of 16,  working in a warehouse at Six Flags. After completing his college education, Greg stayed with Six Flags, progressing through a diverse range of roles, like Park Services Director to eventually General Manager. After working with Six Flags for 32 years, Greg decided to take on a new challenge as the General Manager of Anakeesta, where he now brings spectacular experiences and views to guests of all ages. In this interview, Greg talks about taking care of the team, the Anakeesta experience, and getting out of your comfort zone.  Taking Care of the Team   "If you take care of your team, your team will take care of you."   Greg knows that there’s a big difference when it comes to being a good manager vs. being a good leader. According to Greg, exceptional leaders prioritize the well-being of their teams and cultivate an environment where employees are enthused about their work, ultimately generating game-changing results.   Greg also emphasizes the importance of soft skills. Throughout his career, Greg has taken leaps into roles where he doesn’t have much technical experience. Yet, by prioritizing the well-being of his team and building a positive culture, Greg discovered that his team was able to impart the technical skills he needed for success and growth. The Anakeesta Experience   "We want people to walk away feeling they really experienced the Smoky Mountains."   Anakeesta is a very unique and special location in the Smoky Mountains. Unlike most parks, you can’t just park your car and walk in. Anakeesta requires special transportation up the mountains, and it isn’t until you finish the 18-minute journey that you can see the fantastic views from above.    Anakeesta is an outdoor adventure park, and is surrounded by nature. With incredible views and diverse entertainment offerings, including a brand new mountain coaster, guests will have no struggle finding something that will take their breath away. Greg also shares that the employee experience is incredible, and that it’s fascinating to watch the park change through the seasons, which is something they’ve been marketing to guests to create a truly year-round operation.  Getting Out of Your Comfort Zone   "Don't be afraid to network. Don't be afraid to get out of your comfort zone."   With 32 years of experience in many different roles, Greg knows all about getting out of the comfort zone. Greg shares that for people looking to build a career in the attractions industry, getting out of their comfort zone is the best way to break through that wall. The industry is all about relationship building, and Greg shares that going out and finding mentors was a very rewarding experience he had.    By building these relationships and showing your passion for the industry, doors will continue to open. Greg shares that if it weren’t for the people he met and built relationships with, he wouldn’t be where he is today. By putting yourself out there and fostering those important relationships, you’re carving your own path to be an even better attraction pro.  To connect with Greg, you can find him on LinkedIn or email him at [email protected]. To learn more about Anakeesta, click here.  This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan Summary written by Mason Nichols To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
55m
21/11/2023

Episode 324: Valerie Cockerell talks about being an expat, how to manage like a mother, and bridging the gender gap

Valerie Cockerell is a Leadership Coach and celebrated author, best known for her new book, Manage Like A Mother. Valerie found her passion for working with people when she moved to London at 16. Exposed to diverse cultures, she developed a profound love for learning about people and their behaviors. Following this, she moved to Florida, where she worked at Walt Disney World before becoming a part of the opening team for Disneyland Paris. Today, Valerie leverages her distinctive experiences and insights as a leadership consultant, assisting leaders in their growth journey and fostering the development of their teams. In this episode, Valerie talks about being an expat, how to manage like a mother, and bridging the gender gap.    Being an Expat "You have to be an expat once in your life." After relocating to London at 16, Valerie realized the value of being an expat. Valerie emphasizes that on some level, we’re the same, but people need to learn to appreciate cultural differences, as it teaches us priceless lessons about learning to work with different people and different personalities.  Valerie shares that when you become an expat, you develop a critical eye and begin to notice things that most people typically can’t see. By developing this critical eye, you can begin to see why people have the behaviors they do and why every person has a different approach to work and to leadership.    How to Manage Like a Mother "A mom gives feedback every day. She doesn't wait until the performance evaluation at the end of the year." Valerie knows that being a leader is overwhelming, and she wrote her book Manage Like A Mother to help. After all, looking at leadership through the perspective of a mother answers a lot of tough questions. The skills that are required to be a mother are very similar to the skills required to be a leader. Having that long-term vision for your team and nurturing growth can take the work environment to the next level.  Valerie says that similar to the investment you would have with a child, you should have a similar investment in your team. Taking an individual from a ‘young age’ and giving daily feedback and sharing your vision for them can make a distinctive difference in their growth as an employee, while also helping them spread their wings. Additionally, every child is different, and knowing that you can’t repeat the same behavior with everyone is key to being a good leader.   Bridging the Gender Gap “The emotional intelligence that women bring to the workforce really makes a difference.” Most leaders in the world are men, and if you ask them who the most influential figure in their life is, most of them would say that it was their mother. Valerie says that it’s important to bring this into the workplace as well, because women are also incredibly strong and passionate leaders that can make a difference. Additionally, Valerie shares that workplaces shouldn’t view maternity as time away from work, but rather a time where women can gain skills. Caring for a child can teach many important lessons, and these lessons translate very well into the workplace from a leadership perspective.  To connect with Valerie, you can find her on LinkedIn. To learn more about Cockrell Consulting, click here. Valerie’s new book, Manage Like A Mother, is available at all bookstores and Amazon.    This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan Summary written by Mason Nichols   To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
48m
14/11/2023

Episode 323: Michael Shelton talks about connecting members, IAAPA’s culture and 9 miles of aisles

Calling all thrill makers, fun creators, and AttractionPros! Get ready for the ride of a lifetime at IAAPA Expo 2023 - the global attractions industry’s premier event. Join us in Orlando, November 13-17, for a week of learning, networking, and exploring trends and new technologies. Discover innovative solutions for growth that will supercharge your business and enhance your career.   Michael Shelton is the Vice President and Executive Director of IAAPA (International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions) North America. Michael began his career in the attractions industry during his teenage years when his mom suggested that he get a job at Hyland Hills Water World outside of Denver, CO. Over the course of two decades, Michael has progressed within the industry, and was recently appointed as the Vice President and Executive Director of IAAPA North America. Michael now plays a pivotal role in organizing the largest attraction expo globally and contributing to the growth and new age of IAAPA. In this interview, Michael talks about connecting members, IAAPA’s culture, and the 9 miles of aisles.      Connecting Members "What IAAPA does best is connect members." Bringing people together solves problems, and that’s what IAAPA does best. As an organization covering diverse disciplines and trades, IAAPA serves as a hub where open communication and interactions flourish. Within this collaborative environment, innovations are birthed, and unsolvable challenges find solutions through the collective efforts and expertise of the varied professionals brought together under the IAAPA umbrella. To build this collaborative atmosphere, Michael has a straightforward approach: more meetings across more regions. Through a diverse array of social events, webinars, educational sessions, and various gatherings of different sizes and formats, members are provided with ample opportunities to connect and engage with one another.    IAAPA’s Culture "We all need to advocate for this industry." Michael knows that IAAPA’s corporate environment has a very unique and fun culture. In order to succeed, IAAPA brings in professionals from the organization industry, but also the attractions industry. By cultivating an atmosphere of collaboration and fun, IAAPA consistently delivers great results year after year.  But Michael knows it goes further than that. After all, IAAPA is so much more than an expo. With around 50 committees of volunteers, IAAPA builds a culture centered around the shared affection among its members.    9 Miles of Aisles  "Bring your comfortable walking shoes." IAAPA is dedicated to delivering its best expo year after year, and Michael knows that this year won’t come short of that goal. With the expo being IAAPA’s biggest offering, it can help open the eyes of professionals around the world to just how big the attractions industry truly is. From food carts to a brand-new expo photo system, IAAPA is planning on hosting a fantastic expo for 2023. From professional offerings like a new alcohol beverage and innovation pavilion and a record-setting drone show in the evening of the expo, IAAPA is geared up to have another fantastic year.    To connect with Michael, connect with him on LinkedIn, or send him an email at [email protected]. To learn more about IAAPA, click here.    This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan Summary written by Mason Nichols   To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
49m
07/11/2023

Episode 322: Jenn Whitmer talks about creating positive culture with complex people, conflict as a posture, and the importance of rest

Calling all thrill makers, fun creators, and AttractionPros! Get ready for the ride of a lifetime at IAAPA Expo 2023 - the global attractions industry’s premier event. Join us in Orlando, November 13-17, for a week of learning, networking, and exploring trends and new technologies. Discover innovative solutions for growth that will supercharge your business and enhance your career. Register by November 10th at iaapa.org/iaapaexpo and save up to 30% and get an additional $10 off with code apros.   Jenn Whitmer is a renowned speaker, leader, and enneagram specialist. Jenn’s professional journey started in music education, and it was after her transition into school administration that she discovered her deep-seated passion for leadership and conflict resolution. After watching a positive workplace fall apart, Jenn made it her mission to share her powerful message of how personality and leadership intertwines, making her a perfect guest for our podcast! In this interview, Jenn tells us about creating positive culture with complex people, conflict as posture, and the importance of rest.    Creating Positive Culture with Complex People   "Welcoming people as whole people creates more productivity at work."   Jenn shares that workplaces should be viewed as communities, not families. By fostering an environment where colleagues are welcomed with open arms, individuals feel at ease being their authentic selves at work. This approach not only promotes diversity and contributes to a positive workplace culture where emotions are valued, but it helps people experience that wonderful sense of belonging.   Jenn's strategy, known as Joyosity, revolves around what she calls the "Three E's" - Exploration, Engagement, and Experience. This approach encourages colleagues to freely explore their work, become deeply engaged in their tasks and responsibilities, and ultimately have a great experience by feeling welcomed and appreciated.  Conflict as Posture   "80% of conflict is miscommunication."   Viewing conflict as a posture is simple - instead of thinking of conflict as individual vs. individual - Jenn says it should instead be looked at like the game ‘Red Rover’, where it’s an intertwined team fighting to break the conflict across the field. It’s not people vs. people, it’s people vs. conflict.    Additionally, most conflict stems from limited resources and different angles. Instead of framing these situations as conflicts, consider them opportunities for problem-solving that can help the identification of miscommunications and lead to the resolution of the "conflict" in a much more straightforward manner.   The Importance of Rest   "As leaders, we should encourage people to take time off."   It’s simple, when we’re not rested, we’re not effective. Jenn shares that most of the Western world overworks themselves and has lost the true definition of rest. Rest is recognizing that we’re limited, and when we accept and work around those boundaries, we become much more productive.    Jenn highlights that she has three essential keys to achieving proper rest. First, she emphasizes the value of taking mini-breaks to relax the brain. Second, utilizing all of your allocated vacation time can significantly contribute to productivity. Lastly, she underscores the critical importance of tending to your body's physical needs, which includes maintaining a healthy diet and ensuring adequate sleep to get true rest.     To learn more about Jenn, click here. To connect with Jenn, connect with her on LinkedIn or follow her on Instagram. This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan Summary written by Mason Nichols To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
49m
31/10/2023

Episode 321: John Dunlap talks about micro amusement parks, being the exact customer and attractions as a luxury

Calling all thrill makers, fun creators, and AttractionPros! Get ready for the ride of a lifetime at IAAPA Expo 2023 - the global attractions industry’s premier event. Join us in Orlando, November 13-17, for a week of learning, networking, and exploring trends and new technologies. Discover innovative solutions for growth that will supercharge your business and enhance your career. Register by November 10th at iaapa.org/iaapaexpo and save up to 30% and get an additional $10 off with code apros.   John Dunlap is the Chief Executive Officer of Five Star Parks and Attractions.  John has been in the attractions and hospitality business his entire life, dating back to when he worked in a restaurant kitchen at 14.  He later went on to start a travel agency, which led to a career with Starwood, then had the opportunity to take on the role of Executive Director at the San Diego Zoo, thus beginning John’s transition into the attractions industry.  John became CEO of Five Star Parks and Attractions in January 2022, which provides financial backing to family entertainment centers and micro-amusement parks to achieve lasting success.  In this interview, John talks about micro-amusement parks, being the exact customer, and attractions as a luxury.   Micro-amusement parks   “We coined the concept of micro-amusement parks.”   There are so many different types of facilities that fall under the umbrella of the attractions industry.  Many of them are well-defined, such as a zoo, museum, or aquarium, whereas in the FEC sector, the definition of a family entertainment center has been stretched considerably over the last several years.  While the differentiator between an FEC and an amusement park is generally defined by the presence (or lack) of a gate, there are several subsets of family entertainment centers.   When Five Star Parks and Attractions was born, they identified the subset of what became known as the “micro-amusement park,” which is smaller than a traditional regional park, yet larger than a standard family entertainment center.  The micro-amusement park includes properties that are fully indoors, as well as those that are a mix of indoor and outdoor experiences, often with rides, food, and games. Being the exact customer   "I get most of my best customer feedback from my kids."   When asked about leadership lessons that he’s gained from his wide variety of experiences, John says that he is fortunate to have been the exact customer at each point in his career.  He talks about when he began working in hotels, he recalled back to his childhood, where he viewed staying in a hotel as a luxury, which formed the standard that he strived for when delivering the guest experience.  John says that he is “mortified by mediocrity” and he regularly looks for what can be improved.   John then joined the San Diego Zoo around the same time that he had his first child, allowing him to once again see the guest experience through the eyes of a child.  This influenced decisions that he was a part of at the zoo that led to substantial growth.  Today, now that his kids are older, he is once again the exact demographic that Five Star Parks and Attractions serve.   Because the work is so important to him personally, John never feels like he’s trading time for money, and says he feels like every day he gets to work on his passion project. Attractions as a luxury   "We never take for granted that we're competing for a limited share of wallet."   Just like John’s perception of staying in a hotel as a luxury, he looks at the attractions industry in the same way.  Considering variable economic conditions, John states that they recognize that there are countless other ways for people to spend their time and money.  As a result Five Star has invested heavily into the properties that they have acquired to upgrade the experience, enhance the existing brands that they’ve brought into the portfolio, and focus heavily on training and development.   As Five Star looks to the future, the company’s growth plan includes acquiring additional brands that deliver a high quality experience that meets the mindset of attractions being a luxury, along with continuing to reinvest in the experience at each property in the portfolio. To learn more about Five Star Parks and Attraction, www.fivestarparks.com.  To get a hold of John directly, reach out via email at [email protected]. This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
54m
24/10/2023

Episode 320: Dave Carey and Kristen Seitz talk about tech that you forget, managing pain points, and entitlements vs. tickets

Calling all thrill makers, fun creators, and AttractionPros! Get ready for the ride of a lifetime at IAAPA Expo 2023 - the global attractions industry’s premier event. Join us in Orlando, November 13-17, for a week of learning, networking, and exploring trends and new technologies. Discover innovative solutions for growth that will supercharge your business and enhance your career. Register by November 10th at iaapa.org/iaapaexpo and save up to 30% and get an additional $10 off with code apros.   Kristen Seitz and Dave Cary are the Co-Founders and Senior Consultants of The Recur Group, a company focused on helping attractions and facilities find seamless and hassle-free solutions to upgrade their point of sale systems. Kristen and Dave both started at Walt Disney World, helping upgrade standard paper ticketing to the automated ticketing system we know today. After getting their start in the industry, Kristen and Dave both established decorated careers helping venues and their ticketing systems. Today, Kristen and Dave are now part of The Recur Group, helping take the next big leap in the ticketing industry. In this interview, Kristen and Dave talk about tech that you forget, managing pain points, and entitlements vs. tickets.   Tech That You Forget “From a technical side, we don't want to be remembered.” Kristen and Dave know the importance of ensuring that the ticketing and entry process is a seamless, almost forgettable experience for guests. A well-functioning ticketing system allows visitors to bypass the hassles and concerns often associated with a flawed system. This, in turn, enables guests to make the most of their time in the park, leading to increased enjoyment and the opportunity to create more memorable experiences. If you hear a guest talking about a park entry, it’s rare that it’s in a positive light. By staying attuned to the tech-savvy visitors and implementing a user-friendly system that accommodates everyone, parks can significantly enhance the overall guest experience by simply letting them forget.    Managing Pain Points "When decision-makers are sitting around the table, they are looking out for their own interests." It’s too often that attractions try to force a square peg into a round hole. When it comes to addressing and managing pain points, Kristen and Dave know the significance of identifying not only the current pain points but also anticipating potential ones. This comprehensive assessment involves examining issues from various angles and perspectives, from the high levels of finance to the mindset of the frontline operator. But if pain points had easy fixes, we wouldn’t have any. Kristen underscores that in order to effectively address these points, the team must immerse themselves in the situation by putting their boots on the ground and gaining a thorough understanding of the issue at hand in order to offer a viable solution.   Entitlements vs. Tickets "We're not talking about tickets. We're talking about entitlements." An entitlement is simply a ticket with great functionality. By providing guests with greater capabilities through their ticket, such as granting access to their rooms and serving as a means of payment, we can significantly enhance the overall guest experience. This added flexibility empowers guests to have more control over their day, ultimately contributing to a better experience. Additionally, by providing these services with one entitlement, it can become possible to collect more comprehensive data. This wealth of information can be harnessed to offer guests highly detailed and personalized predictions to enhance their experience.   To learn more about The Recur Group, click here. To connect with Kristen, connect with her on LinkedIn. To connect with Dave, you can also find him on LinkedIn. You can also email  [email protected] and [email protected].    This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan Summary written by Mason Nichols   To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)  
1h
17/10/2023

Episode 319: Paul Ciesiun talks about solving the unsolvable, thinking like an inventor, and growing as a leader

Calling all thrill makers, fun creators, and AttractionPros! Get ready for the ride of a lifetime at IAAPA Expo 2023 - the global attractions industry’s premier event. Join us in Orlando, November 13-17, for a week of learning, networking, and exploring trends and new technologies. Discover innovative solutions for growth that will supercharge your business and enhance your career. Register by November 10th at iaapa.org/iaapaexpo and save up to 30% and get an additional $10 off with code apros.   Paul Ciesiun is the President of L3DFX, an award-winning creative studio specializing in the design and manufacturing of themed elements and immersive environments. Getting his start in the Air Force, Paul found a passion for inventing and problem-solving at a young age. During his college years, Paul says he used that passion to help redefine the paintball industry, filing 19 patents and developing water-based film to replace typical petroleum processes for manufacturing paintballs. After deciding to theme his own paintball park, Paul took his talents to the amusement industry where he now serves as the President of L3DFX, helping deliver thousands of projects to take themed entertainment to the next level. In this interview, Paul talks about solving the unsolvable, thinking like an inventor, and growing as a leader.    Solving the Unsolvable “If you tell me I can’t do it, that’s my biggest motivation.” When it comes to addressing problems, Paul asserts that the problem-solving process remains consistent. Throughout his career, Paul has never encountered problems that are fundamentally unsolvable. It's all about approaching these issues from a fresh and unique perspective, coupled with a dedicated effort to gain a deep understanding of the problem at hand, as it’s true that any challenge can be overcome. Paul's career has seen him tackling a diverse range of challenges, from reimagining the fundamental properties of paintballs to devising a UV system for cleaning keypads during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic. His approach underscores the importance of listening to the world around you and finding what you think needs to be changed, as the only unsolvable problem is the one that isn’t found.    Thinking like an inventor "Everything around you is a solution to a problem." When it comes to thinking like an inventor, Paul mentions the paramount importance of examining every problem from multiple angles, from straight on to upside down. To authentically think like an inventor, one must go beyond traditional perspectives and approaches, striving to find innovative and unconventional solutions. Even with an inventive mindset, many principles are applicable to other lines of work. Inventors even approach patent filing creatively, drafting their ideas in a way that distinguishes them from previously filed patents. This process necessitates originality and teamwork, both of which are key elements in becoming a leader.   Growing as a Leader "It’s difficult to lead without knowing how people perceive you." Paul's path to leadership was sculpted by the initial challenges, and he reminisces about his early days as an immature leader. During this time, he primarily focused on achieving results rather than nurturing a cohesive team that could collectively take the necessary steps to attain those results. By building a team that feels supported and knows that they can win, Paul has changed his perception and helped create a healthy and prosperous environment. Paul emphasizes that to become a great leader, it's essential to self-evaluate at the end of each day. Ask yourself the hard questions on “Am I helping my team win?”, “What could I have done for this individual?” and “What should I have done differently?” All of these questions provide valuable insights that can be integrated into one's leadership approach.   To learn more about L3DFX, click here. To connect with Paul, connect with him on LinkedIn, or send him an email at [email protected]   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan Summary written by Mason Nichols   To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
46m
10/10/2023

Episode 318: Adrea Gibbs talks about combining creative with operations, performing at work, and embracing diversity

Calling all thrill makers, fun creators, and AttractionPros! Get ready for the ride of a lifetime at IAAPA Expo 2023 - the global attractions industry’s premier event. Join us in Orlando, November 13-17, for a week of learning, networking, and exploring trends and new technologies. Discover innovative solutions for growth that will supercharge your business and enhance your career. Register by November 10th at iaapa.org/iaapaexpo and save up to 30% and get an additional $10 off with code apros.   Adrea Gibbs is the CEO, Artistic Director, and Experience Consultant of Alriginal Productions, where she is hyperfocused on behavioral training, hiring, and operational excellence.  Adrea says that she combines her creative side with her operational side to elevate guest and employee experience, using the human element to help people understand biases, mental health, and multi-level learning opportunities.  In this interview, Adrea talks about combining creative with operations, performing at work, and embracing diversity.   Combining creative with operations   “We’re continuing to innovate the artistic side without losing integrity, but we employ things that functionally make things better for both guests and employees.”   Adrea began her career in the Entertainment department at Disneyland, and after becoming proficient with the theatrical side of the business, continued her career path in other avenues, including children’s fitness and construction management.  Adrea’s unique lens has allowed her to gain a full overview of both sides of the same coin.   In themed entertainment, this type of viewpoint is critical because there is both an aesthetic need and a functional need.  The creative side must deliver a product that is visually appealing and outstanding, whereas it also must have the functional elements so that the operators can successfully deliver it.   Performing at work   "We don't necessarily think of ourselves as a performer in our job, but we are."   When a team member comes to work and punches in, they are simultaneously punching out the rest of their life.  This means that anything frustrating in their life, such as a disagreement with their partner, a conflict at the coffee shop, or just waking up on the wrong side of the bed, is getting punched out and left with their timecard.  At the end of the day, the team member punches out of work and takes their personal matters back.   This means that while they are at work, they are playing the role of their job function, whether it is a frontline team member, supervisor, manager, director, or executive leader.  This type of attitude allows team members to better manage everything that comes their way over the course of the day - both positively and negatively, when they recognize that they are performing a role, and get to go back to themselves at the end of the day. Embracing diversity   "We should not be setting boundaries on anybody."   Growing up, Adrea belonged to a church that she says had an open mind and an open heart, and their youth program ensured that young members were able to see and understand religions other than her own.  Additionally, she shares the story of a family member with spina bifida that, despite physical limitations, everyone always ensured to include him in any way possible.  Adrea shares a story of a cast member at the Magic Kingdom who wanted to climb the stairs to the top of Cinderella Castle, and despite being blind, said that the view was “the most beautiful view” he had ever seen.   Adrea stresses that people set their own boundaries based on their capabilities, and we should not judge people based on their container, but based on what’s inside.  When it comes to integrating this mindset into an organizational culture, Adrea says that training and education are critical.  The training cannot be a one-and-done exercise, but must continually be woven into the employee experience so that the concepts continually resonate throughout the team. To connect with Adrea, connect with her on LinkedIn, or send her an email at  [email protected].   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our faaaaaantastic team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
52m
03/10/2023

Episode 317: Brendan Walker talks about structuring and creating emotions, the formula for thrill, and failing positively

Calling all thrill makers, fun creators, and AttractionPros! Get ready for the ride of a lifetime at IAAPA Expo 2023 - the global attractions industry’s premier event. Join us in Orlando, November 13-17, for a week of learning, networking, and exploring trends and new technologies. Discover innovative solutions for growth that will supercharge your business and enhance your career. Register by November 10th at iaapa.org/iaapaexpo and save up to 30% and get an additional $10 off with code apros. Brendan Walker is the Founder Director of Studio Go Go and the Thrill Laboratory.  Billed as the world’s only Thrill Engineer, Brendan spends his time designing and creating thrilling experiences. He regularly features in character as the Thrill Engineer and has worked with international groups such as Nissan, Durex, Royal Caribbean, & Merlin Entertainment to communicate & amplify core experiential brand components by working both in front, and strategically with the client’s team behind camera. In this fascinating conversation, Brendan talks about structuring and creating emotions, the formula for thrill, and failing positively.   Structuring and creating emotions   "The granularity of anticipation goes from months to weeks to days to hours to minutes to seconds leading to the experience."   Emotions may feel random, but in fact they are calculated reactions to specific stimuli. Long before there were roller coasters and thrill rides, our emotions, such as fear, worked to keep us safe in the event of danger. According to Brendan, for the engineers that are paying attention, it’s very possible to intentionally weave in experiences that stimulate specific emotions to enhance or drive the experience.    But it also goes beyond merely tapping into the emotions a guest may feel at a certain time.  It’s also about creating emotions, perhaps where the guest didn’t expect them. For example, the telling of an attractions’ story begins prior to the visit, so feeling a sense of anticipation, even a little uneasiness before even stepping on the property can elicit a stronger emotional response to the experience itself.  The formula for thrill   "You can quantify thrill."   Brendan not only recognizes that thrill can be quantified, but he goes on to explain where the thrill-seeking gene, D40R lives within us. This gives experience creators a formula or road map to follow when designing experiences. While nothing is foolproof, it means you can be a bit more confident that your new attraction will deliver the thrill your guests seek.   In a survey about what people find thrilling, the answers ranged from whitewater rafting to knitting, but the formula was the same. People described the sensation of thrill as a “sudden and large increase in both pleasure and arousal at the same time.” This indicates that regardless of the level of the thrill, the formula to get there is consistent.  Failing positively   "If something is going to fail, we want it to fail positively."   Most parks or attractions that have rides with a high thrill factor play up that angle to get noticed, to market their latest and greatest creations and to generate positive buzz to bring in visitors. Then, if the ride happens to go down, and especially if people are left in an uncomfortable position for an extended period, those without the behind-the-scenes knowledge will assume, largely due to the park's assertion, that those guests are in real danger.   To the contrary, the ride manufacturer and the park officials know that in the majority of cases, the ride behaved exactly as it should have and the guests are actually quite safe. This is what Brendan means about failing positively… that even with a malfunction, there is still a positive outcome.    Brendan invites you to visit both Studio Go Go and the Thrill Laboratory to learn more, and to contact him directly: [email protected]. This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
48m
26/09/2023

Episode 316: Alessandro Zamperla talks about pure joy, embracing authenticity, and knowing where you’re from

Calling all thrill makers, fun creators, and AttractionPros! Get ready for the ride of a lifetime at IAAPA Expo 2023 - the global attractions industry’s premier event. Join us in Orlando, November 13-17, for a week of learning, networking, and exploring trends and new technologies. Discover innovative solutions for growth that will supercharge your business and enhance your career. Register by November 10th at iaapa.org/iaapaexpo and save up to 30% and get an additional $10 off with code apros. Alessandro Zamperla is the President and CEO of Central Amusement International Inc. (CAI), which owns and operates Luna Park at Coney Island in New York City.  Alessandro refers to Coney Island as being one of the “most iconic and influential” amusement parks in the world, and CAI has the responsibility of being the custodian of a historic landmark while also ensuring that the park can serve the guests of today and in the future.  In this interview, Alessandro talks about pure joy, embracing authenticity, and knowing where you’re from.   Pure joy   "Through the moments of difficulty is when you can better appreciate moments of pure joy and exhilaration."   When Alessandro first began working at Coney Island, he worked in food service, flipping Nathan’s Famous Hot Dogs.  Alessandro says that this allowed him to connect with other individuals in a unique way.  More than solving hunger for his guests, he viewed it as fulfilling a purpose beyond that of the guest that extended beyond eating a hot dog.  Given the iconic status of the park, eating a Nathan’s hot dog at Coney Island is an experience in and of itself.   In our industry, we are not just providing a product or a service, according to Alessandro.  We are providing the full experience of being a human being.  We often get caught up in the day-to-day details that parks and attractions need in order to operate, and every once in a while we need to step back and realize the purpose in our guests’ lives that we get to fulfill for them.   Embracing authenticity   "The KPIs can never replace the passion."   Coney Island is the people’s playground.  Given its history, it has developed a strong reputation, although part of Coney Island’s history is less glamorous than it is today.  When asked if the park is still facing some of its previous reputation, Alessandro feels that instead of fighting the view of its past, it’s important to embrace its authenticity while striving to deliver the superior experience that it offers today.  Through moments of difficulty, whether it is the park’s past reputation or the challenges brought on by the pandemic, it allows you to fully appreciate the pure joy and exhilaration that the park offers today.   For example, Alessandro refers to the day that Coney Island reopened from the pandemic as one of the best days in his professional life.  The incremental anticipation that New York residents felt for the park’s reopening led to such a high level of appreciation that the park was open, and guests were more forgiving for any hiccups in the guest experience.   Knowing where you’re from   "It's about the heart. It's about loving what you do."   While Coney Island has a significant role in American culture, the park must maintain its relevance to new and emerging audiences.  Alessandro stresses the importance of preserving the park’s history while also incorporating modern technology that guests expect when visiting amusement parks, which he refers to as “authenticity with innovation.”  For example, the Cyclone, which originally opened in 1927, is still manually operated, so guests know that they are riding a part of history, while the park also strives for continuous improvement.   The sense of knowing where you’re from also extends to Alessandro’s role in the Zamperla family.  Alessandro speaks to the generational significance of the family’s business, and the role that Coney Island plays in it.  One example that he shares includes two intertwined rides, Tony’s Express and Leti’s Treasure, named after Alessandro’s grandparents, evoking Italian’s romantic culture.  Additionally, he gives a glimpse of the food options available in the park, which includes high-quality artisanal Italian cuisine.   To learn more about Luna Park at Coney Island, visit www.lunaparknyc.com for an overview of the park and its history.  To contact Alessandro, connect with him on LinkedIn. This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
49m
19/09/2023

Episode 315: John O’Driscoll talks about growing the team, experiencing Irish history, and future-minded preservation

Calling all thrill makers, fun creators, and AttractionPros! Get ready for the ride of a lifetime at IAAPA Expo 2023 - the global attractions industry’s premier event. Join us in Orlando, November 13-17, for a week of learning, networking, and exploring trends and new technologies. Discover innovative solutions for growth that will supercharge your business and enhance your career. Register by November 10th at iaapa.org/iaapaexpo and save up to 30% and get an additional $10 off with code apros.   John O’Driscoll is the General Manager of Strokestown Park and The National Famine Museum in Ireland. The museum and property allow visitors to experience Irish history and learn about one of the most difficult time periods for the Irish people. John considers himself a steward of the property and hopes that many generations to come will be able to walk the grounds and form an appreciation for what the past has to teach us. In this engaging conversation, we talk about growing the team, experiencing Irish history, and future-minded preservation.    Growing the team "I may be General Manager, but I'm just part of the team." John started his career as a landscaper, and still carries with him the attitude to grow, cultivate, and nurture his team. Having come up through the ranks, John understands what it takes to be successful at each level of the organization and doesn’t shy away from “getting his hands dirty” to ensure the job is done right. John is also quick to point out that even though he holds the title of General Manager, he is just one member of the team. That attitude, that you can’t do it alone, seems to permeate every aspect of John’s leadership philosophy, from listening to employees to ensuring they have the right tools and environment to grow.    Experiencing Irish History "We want people to use history to take note with what is happening today." The Great Irish Famine is also referred to as the potato famine, as potatoes were the main source of food for many people living in Ireland in the mid to late 1800’s. While we can’t imagine counting on one crop or food source in 2023, the lessons learned about diversity and the way different economic classes of people fared through a national tragedy are very valid today. It’s one thing to read about such an event, it’s quite another to bring it to life through stories, murals, artwork, and exhibits. The Famine Museum does just that, giving visitors a real sense of the struggle and pain the Irish people went through. Some may say it's a somewhat sad or depressing subject matter for an “attraction,” but telling the real stories in an engaging way is what will stick with people long after their visit.    Future-minded preservation "We have to be a little bit commercial, because every penny that comes in goes back in." It would be wonderful if the property could run solely on donations and grants, but that’s just not the reality. Strokestown Park and the National Famine Museum also relies on visitors paying admission and buying food and souvenirs to help pay salaries and for the upkeep of the property. In that vein, John talks about the fact that their mindset has to be focused at least somewhat on sales and incoming revenue.  The property recently went through a major renovation, but that doesn’t mean everything was modernized. Many of the fixtures and features in Strokestown House are shown as they would have been seen and used in the late 1800’s.  This sort of preservation allows the team to tell a genuine story and immerse their guests in the true feeling of the day.     To learn more about Strokestown Park and the National Famine Museum, visit https://strokestownpark.ie/ or email [email protected].  They can also be found on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. To learn more about the walking/biking trail between Strokestown and Dublin, visit https://nationalfamineway.ie/.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
53m
12/09/2023

Episode 314: Kevin McNulty talks about social media strategy, connecting with people vs. logos, and using social media to drive culture

Calling all thrill makers, fun creators, and AttractionPros! Get ready for the ride of a lifetime at IAAPA Expo 2023 - the global attractions industry’s premier event. Join us in Orlando, November 13th-17th, for a week of learning, networking, and exploring trends and new technologies. Discover innovative solutions for growth that will supercharge your business and enhance your career. Register by November 13th at iaapa.org/iaapaexpo and save up to 30% and get an additional $10 off with code apros. We’ll be there, and we hope to see you too!   Kevin McNulty is the President, CEO, and Co-Founder of Netweave Social Networking, an agency that works with multiple industries, including attractions, to amplify their marketing through effective social media.  Based in Southwest Florida, Netweave found its way into the attractions industry through an aviation museum that connected the company with the Florida Attractions Association.  In this interview, Kevin talks about social media strategy, connecting with people vs. logos, and using social media to drive culture. Social media strategy   "The number one strategy of social media is to be the kind of company people want to say good things about."   Regardless of the industry, the most important aspect of social media marketing is building a relationship with your audience.  Part of this is ensuring that the messaging is not only specific and relevant, but also speaks the language of that segment of the industry.  For example, attractions with animals under their care should ensure to say “habitat” instead of “cage” and “pool” instead “tank,” otherwise it may misalign from the organization’s mission.   Social media is a two-way street, and attractions must balance their outbound messaging with their inbound posts from their guests, and you don’t get to decide what your guests are talking about online.  Instead, it is critical to regularly be monitoring your social media channels so that you can respond quickly, rather than limiting your strategy to one-way communication with your audience. Connecting with people vs. logos   "People want to connect with people. They don't want to connect with logos."   If you had a celebrity spokesperson, who would it be?  This is the question that Netweave asks new clients during the onboarding process to define the brand voice that will weave its way into social media marketing.  By unifying the brand voice, the messaging becomes consistent, whether it is done through a third party like Netweave or a team of people on your staff.   People follow you on social media to connect with the brand in ways that they aren’t able to in traditional marketing.  If your images are all professional photos that are perfectly posed and your posts are always carefully crafted ad copy, it doesn’t have the same appeal as a more humanized voice that enables conversation with your audience. Using social media to drive culture   “One of the great things about social media is that it can convert fans into evangelists… and it can do the same thing for employees.”   At the 2023 Florida Attractions Association conference, Kevin and Matt presented a breakout session that introduced a concept that they developed together that ties into both social media and employee retention.  They suggested that frontline employees be given a 15-minute “brand ambassador” shift that allowed them to leave their positions and capture photos that can be used for social media content.  This would enable them to approach guests and take pictures of families, while also amplifying the amount of content that the social media team can use online.   In addition to the marketing-related benefit, it also is intended to make employees feel more valued in the organization, knowing that they are contributing to a goal that extends beyond their immediate job duties.  And in addition to social media, they would also be encouraged to document anything that they see out of place, such as paint chipping or a landscaping issue that needs to be reported.   Kevin and Matt both look forward to learning how operators implement this within their organization and seeing the results that can come from it. To learn more about Netweave, visit https://netweaveonline.com.  You can also follow the company on Facebook, Twitter (X), and Instagram.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
48m
05/09/2023

Episode 313: Jonathan Benjamin talks about immersive illusions, learning from employees, and adapting to multiple cultures

Jonathan “JB” Benjamin is the Chief Executive Officer of Museum of Illusions, an edutainment museum concept bringing guests into a fascinating world of illusions where nothing is ever quite as it seems. With experience at various global restaurant and hotel chains, retail outlets, and trampoline parks, JB brings extensive knowledge to a unique and relatively new attraction type. In this interview, we talk about immersive illusions, learning from employees, and adapting to multiple cultures.   Immersive Illusions   "There's a trend these days of immersive experiences, and we're riding that wave."   JB talks about the uniqueness of the Museum of Illusions as an attraction and its appeal to all ages. In this way, there is a greater opportunity for immersion not only in the facility and the exhibits, but with family members as well. The more you CAN experience together, the more you WILL experience together, which creates richer memories for everyone.   We also learn that immersion does not have to mean VR or the latest technology. JB explains that some of the illusions that guests get to experience are based on older concepts that are given new life in the museum.  Learning from employees   "We learn as much from our employees as they learn from us."   People may complain about it, but the easiest way to reach people, especially younger team members, is to meet them where they are. That means utilizing technology when appropriate, even just to open doors to a deeper conversation.    JB says they are far from the point of being able to say they know everything. Being open to employee feedback and having the ability and willingness to adapt are two things that JB leans on to ensure the employee experience remains fresh and relevant. Listening to his employees is one of the best ways to learn about the community and the guests.  Adapting to multiple cultures   "It's part of our DNA to try to assimilate to the local community."   At the time this episode was recorded, there were Museums of Illusions in 25 countries. JB embraces the differences those countries bring in terms of culture, community, employee base, etc. Just like there is no one-size-fits-all for guests or employees, the same can be said for the operating best practices for all of the countries they occupy.    JB says that a large part of the process of assimilating and adapting to new cultures is to simply talk to the people already living there. They will tell you what will work and what won’t, and where you need to focus your energy to be a part of the community rather than an outlier.  To connect with JB, visit him on LinkedIn, or you can email him at [email protected].  For more information on the attraction and locations, visit Museum of Illusions or stop by one of the locations near you! This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas A/V editing by Abby Giganan To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
50m
29/08/2023

Episode 312: Mandy Sijbrandij talks about running it like you own it, the observation wheel experience and managing grief

Mandy Sijbrandij is the Owner of Global Leisure Management (GLM), a third-party management company for attractions.  GLM oversees the full operation of the business, including hiring employees, managing them, putting policies in place, and running the day-to-day operations, maintenance, marketing, along with accounting services.  This allows the owner to turn over the daily operations to a trusted operator.  Most notably, GLM operates SkyWheel Attractions, which can be found in Panama City Beach, FL, and Myrtle Beach, SC.  During GLM’s early days, however, Mandy lost her husband, and she opens up with her personal story of loss and grief, while still moving forward to launch the business.  In this interview, Mandy talks about running it like you own it, the observation wheel experience, and managing grief.   Running it like you own it “If I’m in a position to fix something or make something better - and every employee is - then I want to do that, and I want everybody on the team to have that same mindset.” When someone owns a business like an attraction, they have both a financial investment in the property and an emotional investment, which requires an operator that will treat the property the same as the owner would.  Mandy shares that this requires frequent communication between GLM and the operator, setting proper terms of the agreement, and then running it as if they own it themselves. The mindset of running it like you own it extends beyond the management company; it is also how leaders show up to work every day when they talk the talk and walk the walk, as well as with frontline employees.  Mandy stresses the importance of sharing the successes of the business with the team so they can see how they can own their own jobs within the influence that they have.   The observation wheel experience "You can use the wheel as the biggest and best billboard." An observation wheel is a Ferris wheel, but a Ferris wheel is not an observation wheel.  An observation wheel is a modern take on the carnival-style Ferris wheel, though the cabins are often larger and can house more guests, there is usually heating and air conditioning, and perks and amenities that a Ferris wheel does not offer.  Not only are they often built in scenic locations that offer guests a spectacular view, but they are also beautiful pieces of architecture that complement any skyline. Observation wheels can be marketed as an enhanced experience compared to a traditional Ferris wheel often because they are taller, offering sweeping views of the area around them, and can make any location more iconic by intriguing nearby visitors.  It’s also an experience that can be done with a group or a family that might not ride a roller coaster together, yet on an observation wheel there are nearly no limitations to riding.   Managing grief "We're never really talking about grief, and we need to." In late 2022, while Mandy and her husband Eward were in the beginning stages of forming GLM, Mandy suffered a tremendous personal loss when Eward suddenly passed away.  Mandy expressed that her previous employer, Koch Development, always treated her like family and instinctively pushed back the transition of SkyWheel’s management to the newly created company.  This allowed her to focus on her family and not on work or the logistics of GLM’s launch, which was pushed until mid-February. This event has led Mandy to reflect on how employers manage grief within their own employees and even their guests.  What does your bereavement policy look like?  Does it show empathy toward the employee’s situation, or is it focused on the needs of the business?  How flexible are your cancellation policies if a guest has a death in the family?  Do you train employees on how to treat guests going through difficult life situations?  You may never know what someone is going through at any time.   To learn more about Global Leisure Management, visit www.glmattractions.com. To reach out to Mandy directly, connect with her on LinkedIn.   By the way, if you visit Paradise Pier in Biloxi, you can meet Eward the Dutch Duck, inspired by Mandy’s husband.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas   To connect with AttractionPros: AttractionPros.com [email protected] AttractionPros on Facebook AttractionPros on LinkedIn AttractionPros on Instagram AttractionPros on Twitter (X)
51m
22/08/2023

Episode 311: Matt and Josh talk about what matters - Lessons from CNC23

Coaster Nerd Con, or CNC23, took place from July 6-14, 2023.  This is the annual trek where Matt and two friends take an epic journey to ride roller coasters, debate the best park food and experience the best the industry has to offer. This year, Josh got to join them at their first park, Six Flags Great America. From there, the trio went to Lost Island Theme Park, Adventureland, Worlds of Fun, Silver Dollar City, Frontier City, Six Flags Over Texas, SeaWorld San Antonio, and Six Flags Fiesta Texas. As usual, there were lessons learned along the way. In this episode, Matt and Josh talk about the “things that matter” to the park-going experience.    Enthusiasm matters   For those who know Jeffrey Siebert, Park President at Six Flags Fiesta Texas, you know that he has enthusiasm to spare. In fact, he calls himself an “enthusiast who gets to run a theme park,” and that enthusiasm shows from the look of the park (amazing), the interactions with the team (hospitable and friendly), and the fact that everything was open. His energy is infectious, and that has an incredibly positive impact on the entire operation.    We also ran into team members at other parks, such as Lost Island, who leveled up their own enthusiasm. The gentleman who greeted us for the dark ride and the chef who checked on us as we ate lunch both positively enhanced our experience because of their enthusiasm and positive demeanor.    Recognition matters   There are so many ways to recognize a team member and so many great accomplishments to recognize them for! As we learned from Tony and Gina Claassen, there is something that Silver Dollar City does that combines recognition with a way to immortalize loyal team members.   Disney has the windows on Main Street, and Silver Dollar City has customized, themed posters that are placed throughout the park that recognize team members that have been with the company for 25 years. The best part is that Gina and Tony got to help design their posters and had a choice of where to put them. Next time you’re at SDC, see if you can find them!   Environment matters   The look, the feel, the emotion, the smells, the music… it all plays into the environment you are stepping into and will be the foundation of an immersive experience. Worlds of Fun has done considerable retheming and upgrades to the park, including paint and new facades. Lost Island was clean, incredibly well-themed, and paid attention to the little details that really made a difference.    Props must also be given to the Bamboozler (Round-Up) at Worlds of Fun.  The internal paint job (which one could argue wasn’t needed for the ride to function) created a visually interesting and attractive experience not just for the riders but the guests on the midway as well.    History matters   Many rides and attractions have had lives before landing in their current home. Parks also move things all the time to accommodate expansion and new experiences. It truly enhances the experience when a park takes the time to acknowledge and document the journey that a ride has taken to get to its current home.    A notable piece of history for Matt is the Grand Carousel at Worlds of Fun, which used to be at Geauga Lake in Aurora, OH. Geauga Lake was Matt’s home park growing up, and there is a very good chance he rode it when he visited with his family. Sharing the history can develop and strengthen the emotional connection of the experience.    Activities matter   As much as the CNC crew loves roller coasters, it was really fun to discover, observe and participate in a variety of activities that bring people together and let them have fun or challenge themselves in a non-traditional way (for a theme park).   Lost Island had a number of activities that allowed guests to challenge their minds as well as their body. Silver Dollar City staged a good ‘ol fashioned water balloon fight, and Fiesta Texas has a state-of-the-art gaming center.     For more on the CNC23 trip, look for #CNC23 on Facebook and Instagram.    To connect with AttractionPros, visit attractionpros.com or email [email protected].
54m
15/08/2023

Episode 310 - Sascha Czibulka talks about persistence, starting with safety and creating extraordinary attractions

Sascha Czibulka is the Executive Vice President for Intamin Amusement Rides, one of the world’s leading suppliers of rides and roller coasters.  Sascha began his professional career with Huss Rides, which he later left for the purpose of joining a startup until his plans changed again when Intamin offered him the role of Managing Director.  What Sascha thought would be a role for one or two years has now lasted more than 23 years, and he now serves as Executive Vice President.  Additionally, Sascha has remained heavily involved with IAAPA throughout his career, serving on and chairing multiple committees and the board of directors.  In this interview, Sascha talks about persistence, starting with safety, and creating extraordinary experiences.   Persistence   "You will never hear, 'No, it cannot be done.'"   One of Intamin’s cornerstone characteristics is persistence.  When Sascha was initially offered the opportunity to join the company, he turned it down to pursue his startup, but the calls kept coming.  This persistence can also be sensed in Intamin’s sense of innovation and pushing the envelope toward unique experiences.   Intamin is a family business, currently in its third generation, and the sense of persistence can be felt today just the same as it did several decades ago.  Whenever ideas are brought to the table, whether from external stakeholders such as park operators or if they are developed internally, Intamin takes a “go for it” mentality toward innovation.   Starting with safety   "It starts with safety. That's the cornerstone of everything we do."   The only caveat to Intamin’s innovation process is if the project is deemed to be unsafe.  Through thorough examination, Intamin’s engineering team can make a determination of whether an idea is feasible or not, and if it is not feasible due to safety reasons, they will suggest alternative configurations to ensure it meets the safety standards.   The team follows the norms and safety standards in place, including similar standards in all global regions.  While there may be slight differences from one standard to another depending on the region, the one commonality is that the goal is to ensure that rides are kept completely safe.   Creating extraordinary attractions   "Our target is to design a coaster that the passenger can only be torn out of their seat because they instantly want to do it again and again. Then you know you have a winner.”   Every project that Intamin takes on is fueled by the passion of the team.  The engineering team is passionate about creating the best ride experience possible while working within the constraints of space or the client’s budget.  Then, seeing riders’ reactions when they get off the ride determines if the ride is a hit.   Sascha also says that success is defined by years to come and how the attraction continues to be popular year after year.  Sascha says that the goal of every project is to build rides that stand the test of time and maintain their popularity year after year, which helps the client continue to gain a return on their investment. To learn more about Intamin, visit their website.  To connect with Sascha, find him on LinkedIn or send him an email at [email protected].   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas
51m
08/08/2023

Episode 309: Sondra Shannon talks about making heroes out of operators, guest-driven transactions, and building an inspirational culture

Sondra Shannon is the CEO of Gatemaster Technology, one of the leading ticketing solutions for the attractions industry.  Sondra’s career in the industry began with Q-Zar Laser Tag as General Manager, where she was a self-proclaimed “super-user” of Gatemaster in the late 1990s.  When that facility was sold, Gatemaster’s founder recruited Sondra to help build the next iteration of the product, which enabled the company to expand into water parks, zoos, museums, and theme parks.  Now, as CEO of the company, Gatemaster has evolved as the trends in technology continue to shift, and Sondra remains an avid enthusiast of the industry.  In this interview, Sondra talks about making heroes out of operators, guest-driven transactions, and building an inspirational culture.   Making heroes out of operators “Their focus should be on the guest experience, and not trying to figure out how to make something work in their system.”   When an attraction implements Gatemaster, the software often replaces anywhere from three to six systems.  This makes it a much more efficient operation, and Sondra stresses that her goal is to not only make things easier for guests, but also for the operator.  If staff have a difficult time navigating their own system, it reflects poorly on the business, and the guest experience suffers.   Gatemaster was founded by people within the attractions industry who know and understand the experience.  Even though Gatemaster is a software company, Sondra ensures that she is regularly visiting attractions with her family and encourages her team to do so as well.  This allows them to see the experience through the lens of the guest, which inspires innovation in technological development that further helps the operator deliver a superior experience and be the hero for their guests.   Guest-driven transactions   "We're trying to empower hospitality."   Everything that Gatemaster has created has led to what Sondra refers to as the guest-driven transaction.  A few years ago, Harvard Business Journal conducted a study with more than 200 companies and determined that self-service technology empowers customers.  The study showed that wait times were reduced by 30-50%, and customer satisfaction increased by 50%.   Guest-driven transactions allow the guest to take more control over their own experience and feel more empowered.  The results also show that guests are investing more in their own experience and thus spending more.  By intuitively offering upsells and add-ons, the guest also feels like the business knows them a little bit better by crafting a personally-curated experience.   Building an inspirational culture   “I want to encourage more people to enter this space.”   Sondra meets with her team every Friday, and at the end of the meeting, everyone is asked what attraction(s) they are visiting over the weekend.  By encouraging every member of the team to visit attractions and understand the guest experience, it enables them to bring back ideas for how they can help the operator, and others like them, improve the guest experience, resulting in fewer angry guests and, therefore, fewer burnt-out team members.   When describing Gatemaster’s culture, Sondra says that it’s easy to get people to buy into the idea that they can help people create memories.  Gatemaster’s core values align with what needs to go into building a product that enables attraction operators to create memories for their guests that last a lifetime. To learn more about Gatemaster, visit https://gatemaster.com.  To reach Sondra directly, connect with her on LinkedIn or email her at [email protected]. To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas
50m
01/08/2023

Episode 308: Eric Bertch talks about building a city, creating new IP, and employees being part of the attraction

Eric Bertch is the General Manager of Lost Island Themepark in Waterloo, IA.  Having started his career as a lifeguard at Lost Island Waterpark in 1999, Eric worked his way up from checking pool chemicals to leading a team, and has served as the theme park’s general manager since the project began.  Opened in 2022, Lost Island Themepark is one of the Midwest’s only themed entertainment experiences, immersing guests into a story, versus building the tallest and fastest rides like the comparable amusement parks in the region.  In this interview, Eric talks about building a city, creating new IP, and employees being part of the attraction.   Building a city “When we started this project, at one point we had over 400 different workers at the same time trying to put this together.” Eric compared the construction of Lost Island Themepark to building a city, which is apparent of all major theme parks and many other similar attractions.  They require a massive amount of infrastructure, a significant number of construction workers, and are as organizationally complex as geographic regions and municipalities. Through these complexities, Eric shared several hurdles that the park had to overcome to reach completion.  He talks about supply chain issues, weather delays, cost overages, and the COVID-19 pandemic that slowed down the progress of the park.  Despite the hurdles, Lost Island Theme Park opened on June 18th, 2022; however, Eric shares that even though the park was able to open on time, it was not fully complete, meaning that construction continued even while the park was operating.   Creating new IP “Our background is in themed entertainment, and it’s an area we felt was underserved in this part of the country.” Intellectual property is often used as a strong driver of attendance in theme parks due to familiarity and fandom of popular brands, stories, and characters.  However, rather than leveraging existing IP, Lost Island immerses guests into new stories and characters that were created in-house.  This allows for more latitude in storytelling as the brand parameters for the IP are internal to Lost Island. Eric shares that the theming that has gone into the park extends far beyond rides, and is positioned to enhance the atmosphere of the experience.  This includes several Easter eggs that can be discovered throughout the park, which creates more “wow” moments for guests as they encounter unplanned experiences.  These discoveries help to increase dwell time and overall spending, along with the memories that guests carry with them when they leave. By focusing on the park’s cohesive theme of elements including fire, water, air, earth, and spirit, Eric also shares that it creates an experience that is more cost-effective than building the tallest and fastest rides, all while enhancing guest satisfaction.   Employees being part of the attraction “If you ever want someone to learn something, it better be fun.” Eric shares a glimpse of Lost Island’s recruitment and training process.  Rather than individual interviews with the same 15 questions asked to each individual, Lost Island conducts group interviews that are able to assess a team member’s intention rather than history from their past experience - many of whom have none as they are applying for their first jobs. In training, Eric stresses to employees that they are part of the attraction, not a wallflower who is just facilitating the experience.  This has led to Lost Island’s hospitality standard being exceptionally high, and team members are regularly mentioned in online reviews.  When a team member sees themselves mentioned in a positive review online, it further motivates them to continue their enthusiasm for the experience and builds momentum within the guest service standard.   To learn more about Lost Island, visit www.thelostisland.com to learn about both the theme park and the water park, and you can also download the Lost Island Adventure Guide app on Google Play or the Apple Store.  To follow Eric on Twitter, check out @LostIslandChief (Disclaimer: sometimes Eric says crazy things and hopes he doesn’t offend too many people!).   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas
55m
25/07/2023

Episode 307: Faith Mmbando talks about finding a niche, sustainable tourism and socioeconomic factors

Faith Mmbando is the CEO of Best Northern Tours and Safari, a tour operator in Tanzania that offers hiking, safari and adventure experiences to guests from around the world. A few years ago, Faith decided to take a dormant family business and turn it into a world-class experience. Now, just 21 years old, she is making her mark in a male-dominated industry and has a clear vision for future success. In this episode, Faith talks about finding a niche, sustainable tourism and socioeconomic factors.    Finding a niche "Ensuring your clients that you have a safe space to put them in makes it more validating." One of the ways that Faith intends to set her adventure tour apart is through the addition of lodging for the guests that come to experience Tanzania. This way, she can remove a worry and potential roadblock from people booking a trip and a tour destination. Faith is also passionate about setting her company apart from many other tour operators in the area by employing women in all roles within the organization. Her goal is to provide opportunities to women historically taken by men such as bus drivers, tour guides and admin staff so that valuable talent is not overlooked.    Sustainable tourism "I am amazed every time I go into the wildlife because it's different every time." Faith inspires us to not take what is in our backyard for granted, while at the same time acknowledging that it takes all of us to ensure that the wildlife and ecosystem can be sustained for generations to come. She communicates this through her staff but also takes the opportunity to educate and inspire the guests on tour to clean up after themselves and take care of the fragile environment. The company is currently pursuing using solar energy wherever possible and in time, switching to electric vehicles that would be used on safari. Diesel trucks are very noisy, and can scare off animals (not to mention what the exhaust does to the environment). Faith said she can imagine being able to observe wildlife in a silent vehicle, which would be less jarring to the animals and thus create a better experience for her guests.    Socioeconomic factors "It's never easy dealing with things that are out of your control. Keep a positive mindset." Running a business is hard, especially when factors outside of your control dictate whether or not a guest may choose to visit you. Political unrest, wars, and inflation are just some of the factors that Faith mentioned that she has found can impact her and all tourism businesses.  True to form, Faith does not let this damper her spirit. She approaches each of these challenges with an open and positive outlook, seeking solutions that will help overcome the external impacts. She also credits some of her success from not starting her business during COVID as she got to learn from others and how they dealt with the pandemic.    To learn more about Best Northern Tours and Safari or to connect with Faith, she invites you to check out her LinkedIn page, or the Best Northern Tours and Safari website and social channels. She also hopes people will reach out directly via email at [email protected].   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas
51m
18/07/2023

Episode 306: Dawn Foote talks about a rebel sense of creativity, stakeholder glue and creating emotions

Dawn Foote is the Co-Founder and CEO of Katapult, a design agency that works with themed attractions and experiences across the globe.  Katapult was formed by a group of university students who worked with nightclubs to put on live events.  By the time they graduated, the co-founders were able to expand into other industries and sectors and began specializing in themed entertainment in the early 2010s.  Today, Katapult designs and creates themed experiences globally and is fortunate to work with some of the world's most-known intellectual properties.  In this interview, Dawn talks about a rebel sense of creativity, stakeholder glue, and creating emotions.     Rebel sense of creativity "We always have to think in a rebel sense around creativity." As a teenager, Dawn states that she was a “rebel with a cause” as she campaigned heavily for the environment and preferred to create her own path rather than conform to standards.  This attitude ultimately led to Katapult’s creation and initial success.  When working with large brands and intellectual properties, however, there are often strict processes in place that partners need to conform to. However, when it comes to coming up with creative ideas, Dawn says that they need to have a rebel sense of creativity, fueled by curiosity, that leads to innovative ideas.  It also leads to adaptability and being not only suitable to change but knowing that change is part of the process.  The rebel sense ensures that they recognize that there is always a way to improve upon something and that they can never sit still.   Stakeholder glue “We’re the glue between those parties to make sure the needs are met.” A critical portion of the project management process is managing the stakeholders involved.  Whenever it seems that a project might be shifting, it’s important to bring it back to the “why” of the key stakeholders involved in the process.  While there may be several opinions from various stakeholders, the project needs to balance the needs of what will make it successful commercially and creatively. Stakeholders can include the operator, the investors, or the intellectual property, meaning that many needs must be met in order for a project to be considered successful across all parties.  Dawn says that Katapult acts as the glue between all of the stakeholders to ensure that each party’s needs are met equally.   Creating emotions “Part of the design thinking is what the feeling and emotion is that you want people to get.” Part of Katapult’s guest experience audit when entering into a new project is referred to as emotional journey mapping, which is a less quantifiable form of measuring the guest experience when compared to other metrics that audit objective or binary factors.  Emotion, however, is often brought up in initial brainstorming sessions and drives much of the creative process. Emotional journey mapping takes into consideration the various emotions we want our guests to feel at various times.  While many assume that we always want our guests to be happy, there are many other emotions to consider - such as being comfortable, secure, scared, quiet, tranquil, and joyful.  All of these emotions play a large role in the design process that can then be felt in the final product.   To learn more about Katapult, visit their website, and to reach out to Dawn directly, you can connect with her on LinkedIn. To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas
52m
11/07/2023

Episode 305: Massimiliano Freddi talks about resistance, being close to the product and the power of word of mouth

Massimiliano Freddi is the Founder and CEO of Wonderwood, an adventure park in Italy where “little ones can have grown-up adventures and grown-ups can become children again for a day.” Massi is also the Second Vice Chair of IAAPA and will be taking the reins as chair in 2024. In this fascinating and inspiring conversation, Massi talks about resistance, being close to the product and the power of word of mouth.   Resistance   “People aren't waiting their entire lives for you to open your venue. They have busy lives.”   There are many forms of resistance when it comes to starting and running a business, and the first one we often have to overcome is our own resistance to taking action or following through on our dreams. Wonderwood is a great example of what can be accomplished when you stop thinking about what holds you back and begin thinking about the path forward.   Resistance can also look like guests not choosing your location as the place where they want to spend their time and money. We have to realize that as much as we are behind our product and that we believe in it, not everyone is sitting around just waiting for your gates to open. This means finding new and innovative experiences to entice them, as well as creative marketing strategies to build awareness.    Being close to the product   “I love getting 5-star reviews, but I'm not growing from that.”   Massi explained that one of the drivers for wanting to open his own park was so that he could be closer to the product, i.e., the guest experience. He takes pride in the fact that he learns so much by watching and listening to the guests in real time.    Massi also shared that while he loves hearing about the great things the guests are experiencing, he recognizes that growth lives in the uncomfortable state of getting constructive feedback. Massi and his team seek this out in order to find ways to take the guest experience to the next level.    The power of word of mouth   “Wonderwood is a safe and beautiful place where people leave better than they arrive.”   “Transformation” is a word Massi used to describe the experience at Wonderwood. Building confidence, competence and inspiring guests to take on challenges that may not have taken on in other walks of life. That leads to a transformative experience.   When people have a good time, they will tell a few people. However, when their lives are transformed, they will tell everyone, and that is the kind of word of mouth Massi and his team attempt to drive every single day. Word of mouth advertising is not seen as a marketing initiative, but an operational one where the experience is laid out, and honest feedback from guests becomes the most powerful (and cost-effective) marketing campaign available.  To learn more about Wonderwood, you can visit their website or check them out on Facebook or Instagram. To connect with Massi directly, he suggests LinkedIn or sending him an email at [email protected].    To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas
53m
04/07/2023

Episode 304: Mpume Mabuza talks about music as an attraction, industry growth in Africa and barriers as opportunities

Mpume Mabuza is the CEO of Downtown Music Hub, an iconic music heritage facility in the heart of Johannesburg, South Africa.  Additionally, Mpume is the President and Board Chairperson of the African Association of Visitor Experiences and Attractions (AAVEA).  Mpume began her career in the industry as a marketing executive at uShaka Marine World in Durban, at which point she also volunteered with the organization that later became AAVEA.  Her goal at Downtown Music Hub is to create an experience that is immersive, transformative, and interactive.  In this interview, Mpume talks about music as an attraction, the industry’s growth in Africa, and seeing barriers as opportunities.   Music as an attraction   “This is quite topical right now - how music plays a role in tourism, and it truly does.”   South Africa has a rich music heritage and was the only location where musicians could record music on the entire continent for decades.  This gives the Downtown Music Hub a unique positioning that allows guests to immerse themselves into the music culture that has developed in South Africa and learn about international artists who recorded in that space, such as Dolly Parton and U2.   Mpume stresses that music is the attraction and is the universal language that connects people.  Her goal is to take the museum to the next level to expand the facility and visitor experience, including inspiring people to sing, be happy, and maybe even discover their hidden talents!   Industry growth in Africa   “There is innovation that comes out of collaboration.”   As the President and Board Chairperson of AAVEA, Mpume says that days of attractions operating in a silo are gone and that there is a need to collaborate with attractions across the region to share what has worked in countries such as South Africa, where the industry has seen success.     Part of what will fuel the growth goes back to the basics, and that includes defining what an attraction is.  AAVEA’s website has spelled out how an attraction is defined because there is a perception that an attraction consists of large destinations, marine parks, monuments, and national parks.  However, attractions come in all shapes and sizes, and irrespective of the type of facility, AAVEA’s goal is for those operators to know that the association represents them as well as the larger players in the industry.   Barriers as opportunities   Connecting with industry professionals throughout Africa has presented its challenges.  Historically, barriers have existed within the continent that have prevented people from being able to travel from country to country easily.  For instance, for many years, traveling from South Africa to Nigeria required connecting through Germany, making it extremely restrictive to be able to travel.     When the restrictions on travel and trade were lifted in East African countries, the attractions industry saw immediate success and a boost in business.  By identifying the barriers put in place, the industry can see these as opportunities to fuel its growth.  For instance, AAVEA partners closely with IAAPA to share initiatives, which allows them to adapt to global industry trends while simultaneously embracing their rich cultural heritage. To learn more about the Downtown Music Hub, visit their website.  To get in touch with AAVEA, you can visit the website or email [email protected].   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team:   Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas
54m
27/06/2023

Episode 303: Josh and Matt talk about cultivating experts, using your awareness of the guest and how to find answers

There is a lot of talk these days about guests having autonomy and agency to create and curate their own experiences within our attractions. What about the other side of the coin, where guests may need the help and assistance of our expert employees to truly have the experience they want to have?  In this episode, Matt and Josh explore the concept of cultivating experts, using your awareness of the guest and how to find answers.      Cultivating experts   “You’re in my domain. I’m going to tell you how to have the best experience.”   We all want our team members to be experts… experts at the functional portion of their jobs, experts at providing service and experts at explaining all of the features and benefits of your facility to your guests. The problem is, that level of expertise takes longer to cultivate than most team members will be around.    So the first strategy of cultivating experts to serve your guests is to realize it takes time. On top of that it takes coaching, repetition, practice, teaching, coaching and a bit more time. Malcolm Gladwell says that it takes upwards of 10,000 hours of deliberate practice to become world-class at something. That’s just over 9 years someone would have to spend becoming an expert in your business.       Using your awareness of the guest   “Be aware of what’s around you and what people are saying.”   Sometimes the biggest impact gesture comes from the act of being aware of your surroundings so you can react in the moment or even anticipate a guest's need because you almost see what they need before they see it.    Maybe you are passing someone on the midway and you overhear them talking about ice cream or how to get to a show venue. Taking a few seconds to respond could mean the difference in a good guest experience and a great one. However, we can get so focussed on the operation and efficiency that we can lose sight of those in-the-moment opportunities that only present themselves if we are aware of our guests and what they need.    How to find answers   “Give people the opportunity to learn how to find the information, rather than expecting everyone will know everything.”   We’ve all heard a manager say, “We don’t want you to say, ‘I don’t know’ when a guest asks a question.”  Okay, then what SHOULD I say?  That is the frustration many team members go through when learning the finer points of their job. The sentiment, of course, is that we want our “experts” to be able to provide any assistance a guest may want.    In order to do this and help cultivate experts, organizations need to provide tools for team members to learn where to get this information. For example, a park map or app likely has answers to 95% of questions a guest may have, so teach your team how to use the app. It could also be a hotline/helpline that people can call, maybe it goes directly to Guest Services who likely have the answers our operators are seeking.    It’s intimidating to say, “don’t say I don’t know.”, but it’s empowering to provide a way for people to find the information they need at a moment’s notice.      To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]   This episode would not be possible with the incredible work of our team! Abby Giganan - audio/video editing  
40m
20/06/2023

Episode 302: Professional lessons from leisure travel

Traveling for leisure can be rejuvenating, relaxing, educational, and an opportunity to disconnect from the real world for a short time.  And when you work in the attractions industry, it can also inspire you to come up with new ways to improve your operation back home!  Recently, Matt and Josh both traveled internationally and came back with several guest and employee experience examples worth talking about.  Even better, they recorded their findings in person at the Florida Attractions Association annual conference in the middle of the networking center.  In this episode, Matt and Josh share insights from recent trips to Ireland and Turks and Caicos, respectively.   It takes people to make the dream a reality “It’s the human beings that are going to determine whether the experience is positive or negative.”   Walt Disney said, “You can design and create, and build the most wonderful place in the world, but it takes people to make the dream a reality.”  This quote resonates throughout the attractions industry and any other business where the team members truly deliver the experience.  In Josh’s recent experience, he stayed at a Ritz Carlton, whose brand commands a high standard of premium service.  With that said, it was the individuals with whom he interacted that made the experience what it was, and a select few truly made the dream a reality.  Despite the warm weather, blue skies, sandy beach, and crystal clear waters, the biggest memories from the trip were the team members who went above and beyond.   It takes years – sometimes decades – to make skills appear seamless “When we are training people to be great service providers, it takes time.”   We expect a lot from our team members, especially when there is a high standard for service and excellence.  We also know that we need to train them efficiently so that they are proficient from their first day interacting with guests.  True service skills, however, come with time.  Matt shares an experience in a Pub in Killarney where the bartender interacted with guests with his authentic personality, which created an enjoyable experience, even though his service could be described as “non-traditional.”   When a guest made an obscure off-menu request, the bartender fully understood what she was asking for and her response was that it was exactly what she wanted.  The bartender’s reply was, “I should hope so.  I’ve been doing this for 20 years!”  Had it been earlier in his career, he may have sought assistance from a coworker or made a drink that did not align with the guest’s request, but after two decades of experience, the unusual request was able to be seamlessly delivered.   The challenge of exceeding expectations is that it raises expectations “When you have a high guest experience standard in place, you need to keep pushing it forward.”   We all strive to exceed the expectations from our guests.  But what happens when our guests get used to us exceeding expectations for them?  Josh shares an encounter he had that met the definition of “wow” moment – the staff found a way to do something that most guests wouldn’t expect that would leave a lasting impression.  However, Josh expected it based on previous experience at other properties within the brand and even other brands with similar standards.   This is not to say that it wasn’t a positive experience, but it met his expectations for what the brand is known for, rather than go above and beyond.  We need to continually think of ways to surprise and delight our guests so that once they pick up on certain patterns, we can push the envelope even further.   A genuine experience can transcend, or exceed, what you know is happening “I knew that the offer was coming, but I didn’t feel like I was being sold to.”   In the attractions industry, much of the experience is predictable.  In a theme park, after you ride a ride, you expect to walk through a gift shop at the end of the experience.  On a tour, you expect the guide to present a solicitation for gratuity.  However, when the experience is genuine, the feeling of “being sold to” disappears, because it’s a natural part of the experience.   When Matt partook in an experience where he made his own scones and ate them after, the owner said to the group, “If you enjoyed the scones, you can buy the recipe.”  In response, guests lined up to buy it.  While Matt knew it was coming, he didn’t feel like he was being sold to or manipulated as part of a retail experience.  The recipe solicitation was a natural extension of the experience, which was delivered so excellently, Matt felt like his group was the only one in the world who had done it – despite multiple tours running daily.   If we look at it from the lens of the employee experience, if every part of the culture shows that leadership wants them to have the best employee experience, when it comes time to have difficult conversations, they should come across seamlessly, just like the sales opportunity at the end of the guest experience.   Use your knowledge of how guests can have an even better experience “Sometimes you need to help your guests have the best experience that they can.”   One of the core tenets of guest service is anticipating guests’ needs, which recognizes that guests may not have all the information to have the best experience possible.  It Josh’s case, it wasn’t just information, it was talent and skill when he rented a paddleboard in relatively choppy water.  After falling several times in a short period of time (providing quality entertainment for everyone on the beach), the guide called Josh back to shore and gave him several tips that he could use to improve his skills.  The guide didn’t need to do it; his responsibility including efficient paddleboard rentals and ensuring that all guests were safe – but he saw an opportunity to help Josh have a better experience, which was even more satisfying than it gone well from the start.   This also connects to the employee experience.  As employees are learning their jobs and building their proficiency, leaders can recognize opportunities where they can give their employees the chance to fail, learn, adjust, and improve – similar to Josh’s experience on the paddleboard.    The environment plays a significant role in the experience “In the physical environment that we put people in, what kind of mood does that create?”   Matt visited a pub in Waterford that was more than 300 years old, and possibly even owned by the original family.  The pub remained mostly untouched, with modern fixtures like restrooms only being installed in the 1960s.  The environment was supported by a musician playing songs and the wobbly tables that allowed guests to appreciate the historic significance of the pub.   In modern-day structures, we create the environments that put guests in certain moods, and supplement them by the amenities that go along with them to match the mood you are seeking to create, which leads to full immersion and escapism.  By fully immersing guests into the desired emotional outcomes, it allows them to disconnect from the challenges and stresses of their daily lives, and be fully present in the experience.   We hope you enjoyed these takeaways as much as we enjoyed collecting them!   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
48m
13/06/2023

Episode 301: Peter van der Schans talks about selling emotions, up and coming markets and supporting young professionals.

Peter van der Schans is the Executive Director & Vice President IAAPA EMEA, which represents IAAPA member interests in Europe, the Middle East and Africa. Peter will be the first to tell you that these areas are not only diverse culturally, but are also wide ranging in terms of industry maturity and development. Peter’s background in operations helps him relate to the members and provide support in navigating their most difficult challenges. In this episode, we get to hear Peter’s thoughts on selling emotions, up and coming markets and supporting young professionals.  Selling Emotions   "It’s young, it’s old, it’s laughs, it’s fear. In the end, it comes back to that emotion."   Many people will say that our real “product” in the attractions industry is fun or memories or experiences. Peter distills this down to its core by saying we sell emotions. An emotion will drive our behavior and our willingness to come back and tell our friends. Our emotions, if expectations aren’t met, can also prevent us from returning.   Peter also shares that those emotions can come from many different places, such as riding a roller coaster or sitting on a bench to enjoy the view. No matter the size or scope of the operation, it’s critical to look at all of the opportunities a guest has to feel something, because those are decision points and will determine if we have done our jobs or not.    Up and Coming Markets   "You can see that there is a gray zone that is not the obvious theme park that is our member."   Peter talks about the diversity of the markets he and his team support, stating that on the whole, Europe would be considered mature, the Middle East is developing and Africa is up and coming. He is sure that in the coming years Africa will gain ground and develop as a great spot for attraction development.   What Peter acknowledges that what he doesn’t know is what the timeframe or the attraction mix will look like in that region. Currently, you have safaris, cave tours, and other nature-based attractions and experiences. Will we see full blown theme parks in Africa?  Tough to say, but the desire to expand the tourism base is there, and where there is a will, there is a way!   Supporting Young Professionals   "We try to touch their hearts to see if we can persuade them to pursue a career in our industry."   In sharing his own journey, you can tell that Peter is passionate about developing his own skills as well as the skills of others, particularly Young Professionals in, or interested in, the attractions industry.  Peter outlined some of the initiatives and strategies to engage the future leaders of our industry. At the Europe Expo in Vienna in 2023, a job fair is being held to attract students and young professionals who may be interested in pursuing a career in the industry, but may not realize their area of study has a place. For example, those focusing on tech, as well as operations, F&B, and hospitality are all needed as the industry continues to grow. In addition, Peter talked about his desire to have Young Professionals represented across the board in committees and strategic planning to get their perspectives and provide exposure to the inner workings of the industry.    To connect with Peter, check out the IAAPA team members page.  To learn more about IAAPA EMEA, click here.    To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
54m
06/06/2023

Episode 300 - Matt and Josh celebrate 300 episodes

We have reached an incredible milestone, and we are celebrating in style!  For the 300th episode of the AttractionPros Podcast, Matt and Josh flew to Orlando and recorded this special episode in the lobby of IAAPA’s World Headquarters.  But wait!  Instead of interviewing an industry leader, the tables were turned as Scott Fais, Global Editorial Director for IAAPA, put Matt and Josh in the hot seats and interviewed them on their careers, the impact of AttractionPros on the industry and themselves, and a series of rapid-fire questions.  We’d like to thank Scott for opening the doors to IAAPA headquarters and hosting this special episode!   The impact of AttractionPros on the attractions industry   “It’s never a straight line from being a ride operator or a sweeper or scooping ice cream to being the CEO of a company.” –Matt   One of the biggest impacts AttractionPros has made on the industry is that the podcast has opened people’s eyes to various career paths.  Throughout the hundreds of interviews we’ve conducted, it’s clear that there is no one clear path from being a frontline employee to an executive leader.   “We saw an opportunity to create something for attractions industry professionals to learn from the best in the business.” –Josh   When we began the podcast in 2017, we identified a gap in educational content for those building a career in the industry.  With plenty of content available for enthusiasts and travel planning, we set out to make an impact on attractions industry professionals (also known as AttractionPros) to learn from the best of the best across all areas of the attractions industry.   How we look at the industry differently   “Sometimes, when you think about people in those positions and you don’t know them, it’s easy to dehumanize them.” –Matt   After 299 episodes, one of the biggest takeaways is that we’re all human.  Someone in an executive leadership role may come across as intimidating, and by conducting an interview that highlights their career path, their personal life, and mistakes they’ve made along the way, it shines a light on the person behind the title.   “I feel that the industry is even smaller after talking to so many people.” –Josh   It also makes the industry feel smaller.  In addition to identifying mutual connections and connecting the dots from a networking standpoint, hearing similar challenges and guidance across attractions and facility types that you may not associate with each other, it shows that the industry is largely on the same page and singing the same song.   Podcast guests who have made a large impact   Every guest on the podcast has had an incredible story to share and an incredible message for the industry, making it difficult for Matt and Josh to each pick one!  Nevertheless, Matt stated that when we interviewed Brian Knoebel, it was a last-minute scheduling based on a cancellation, meaning we had no questions prepared.  Despite the lack of preparation, his father’s birthday, and only a few days before opening the park for the season, Brian offered us his undivided attention and conducted an incredible interview.   Josh cited John Wood, President and Chairman of Sally Dark Rides, and the way in which he shared how rides like Sally - and the experience in a theme park in general - create a lasting impact on people’s lives that extends far beyond the duration of the ride or the visit to the park.  We often lose sight of why people visit attractions of any kind because it gets lost in the day-to-day minutiae, and listening to John’s view of the industry is a refreshing reminder.   What has the podcast done for us   “The podcast has given me another way to give back that I never would have thought of.” –Matt   The podcast has deepened Matt and Josh's ability to network and make connections within the industry.  An invitation to come on a podcast is not a sales pitch, making it more likely for an executive to say yes to offering their time.  It also has been an excellent way to give back to the industry that we have gained so much from.   “I feel like I am continually gaining an advanced degree in the industry.” –Josh   Additionally, the amount of education and inspiration from the podcast makes it feels like one can gain an advanced degree in the attractions industry.  With hundreds of interviews across so many topics, the audience can learn about executive leadership, operations, hospitality, marketing, safety, animal care, DEI, and nearly every topic that you can think of that touches the attractions industry. Scott also asked Matt and Josh about the impact that IAAPA has made on their career, the value of being an IAAPA show ambassador, how the AttractionPros Mentorship Internship came to be, common challenges that the industry is facing, advice for starting a podcast, and then a fast round of rapid-fire questions. To learn more about IAAPA, who graciously hosted us for this special recording, visit www.iaapa.org.  To get in touch with us directly, contact [email protected].
47m
30/05/2023

Episode 299 - How will AI disrupt the attractions industry?

How will AI disrupt the attractions industry, including theme parks, zoos, museums, aquariums, and family entertainment centers? Artificial Intelligence (AI) has the potential to transform the attractions industry in a variety of ways, including theme parks, zoos, museums, aquariums, and family entertainment centers. Here are some ways AI could disrupt the industry: Personalized experiences: AI can be used to create more personalized experiences for visitors. For example, theme parks could use facial recognition technology to identify visitors as they enter the park, and then provide recommendations for attractions and activities based on their past behavior and preferences. Enhanced safety: AI can help improve safety and security at attractions. For example, facial recognition and behavior analysis algorithms could be used to identify potential threats and alert staff. Efficient operations: AI can help attractions operate more efficiently by automating certain tasks. For example, chatbots could be used to answer frequently asked questions, freeing up staff to focus on other tasks. Predictive maintenance: AI can help attractions predict and prevent equipment failures. For example, sensors could be used to monitor ride components and alert maintenance staff before a failure occurs. Augmented and virtual reality: AI can be used to create more immersive experiences, such as augmented and virtual reality attractions. These experiences can be customized to the individual visitor, providing a unique and memorable experience. Overall, AI has the potential to enhance the attractions industry by providing more personalized experiences, improving safety and security, and increasing efficiency. However, there are also potential risks, such as privacy concerns and job displacement. As the industry evolves, it will be important to carefully consider these risks and work to mitigate them. What do you think?  How will AI disrupt the attractions industry?  Let us know your thoughts on Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, or Instagram. Also, what do you think of this episode format?  Should we do more of these? To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
9m
16/05/2023

Episode 297 - Dr. Mike Adkesson talks about learning while having fun, conservation beyond the zoo and animals being happy

Dr. Mike Adkesson is the Chief Executive Officer at the Brookfield Zoo. As a veterinarian by trade, Mike has always had a soft spot for animals, working tirelessly to create a better world for them both in nature and under human care. Mike's passion for animals began at a young age when he participated in his first animal care youth program at age 8, leading him to become a zookeeper at 15 before pursuing his doctorate in veterinary medicine. With over 15 years of experience in animal care and welfare, Mike was promoted to CEO of Brookfield Zoo in October 2021 and is now dedicated to providing guests with unforgettable experiences while also leading global conservation efforts beyond the walls of Brookfield. In this interview, Mike talks about learning while having fun, conservation beyond the zoo, and animals being happy.   Learning While Having Fun "I passionately believe that people listen and learn more when they're having fun." Mike emphasizes that the guest experience is paramount in ensuring that the messages of animal care and conservation are absorbed. When guests are surrounded by problems and can’t enjoy the true zoo experience, we can’t expect them to care about messages that go beyond the zoo.  To tackle this problem, Mike shares that the operation needs to have excellence in every corner of the experience. The food should taste amazing, and the attractions should be engaging. However, Mike emphasizes that the most crucial element is to create intimate and one-of-a-kind animal experiences to engage guests and get them to care. Mike believes that without a great guest experience, the zoo's mission and purpose can’t be fulfilled.   Conservation Beyond the Zoo "They care more about a specific species because they saw it close-up here at the zoo." Mike's passion for conservation and the missions supported by The Brookfield Zoo stem from his background as a veterinarian. He believes that to expand these efforts, it's crucial to make the information about them readily available and easily accessible to the public. From featuring information on the website to organizing lunch seminars for the public, the zoo endeavors to communicate the other side of what they do beyond providing exceptional care for the animals at their facility. Zoos and aquariums worldwide have provided 1 billion dollars in funding for these conservation programs. Mike shares that by letting the guests know where their dollars are going, it can create that next level of attachment to the animals in the zoo and the missions the zoo supports. Moreover, by providing intimate interactions with certain animals, the guest experience can be elevated to a call for action, inspiring them to support conservation efforts beyond their visit to the zoo.   Animals Being Happy "Our animals receive better care than billions of people around the world." In the past, Zoos haven’t been nearly as caring and appreciative of their animals as they are now. Mike shares that it’s important to change the narrative and discuss the changes that have been made over the past 30 years to bring significant improvement to the lives of these animals, and show just how important that care is. Many guests don’t understand indicators of certain animals being happy, and can actually misunderstand those indicators. To combat this, Mike provides guests with scientific evidence and measured data to not only let the guest know that the animal is happy, but prove it. Mike emphasizes that by having open, tough conversations, guests will ultimately walk out of the experience much more educated.    To connect with Mike, you can find him on LinkedIn. To learn more about The Brookfield Zoo, you can find their website here.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
52m
09/05/2023

Episode 296 - Matt and Josh talk about defining your DEFCON

We all want to enjoy our time off.  However, as leaders, there is often this nagging feeling like we’re missing something or we are going to be needed for an important decision. What follows is an endless parade of checking email, texting co-workers, checking email, thinking about the work left undone, checking email…   When does it stop?  When you proactively put a plan in place to identify the things you SHOULD be contacted for vs the items your team should be able to handle. In this episode, Matt and Josh talk about defining your DEFCON, operational communication, and empowering your team. Defining your DEFCON   "If I am going to hear about this from external sources, then I want to hear it internally first."   You're getting ready to leave for an extended period of time and tell your team, “Only contact me if there is an emergency.”  However, your version of an emergency and their version rarely line up - without some conversations and expectations.   Defining your DEFCON refers to creating a system or tiered approach to emergency or off-time communication. Similar to measuring a nuclear threat, you can assign DEFCON ratings to various situations that may or may not require your intervention. DEFCON 1 (worst case scenario) could be a team member or guest injury, a 911 call, or social media event about to go viral. You NEED to know and possibly act on these situations. A DEFCON 5 (lowest priority) could be a routine guest complaint or needing toilet paper. Your staff should be able to do these things and do not require immediate attention.  Operational communication   "It’s not just about delegation, it’s also about communication."   Defining when and how to communicate goes beyond preparing for a vacation; it should be the rule for figuring out the best way to run your operation. With so many communication methods and strategies available, there is no reason for someone to be out of the loop.   As you are defining your DEFCON, you are likely identifying areas of the business that your team should be able to handle but maybe can’t. This gives you a great place to start regarding tasks and processes you should discuss with your team. This not only prepares them for your absence, but ultimately this process strengthens their individual skills and builds the confidence needed to function without you. Empowering your team   “Fewer employees having more autonomy means we HAVE to empower them.”   Teaching your team how to handle situations requiring more and more responsibility not only increases their aptitude and confidence but also gives them a greater sense of ownership and autonomy. The true definition of empowerment is to literally give power to another person - you are doing this by teaching a skill and trusting them to carry it out without your supervision.   Whenever you empower someone, the results may not come out as you thought. Maybe they are better, maybe they are worse. If they are better, celebrate and recognize your team for improving a process or practice.  If the results are not what you expect, then this would trigger a coaching conversation where you can discuss the decision-making process and actions taken.  This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
46m
02/05/2023

Episode 295 - Jeffrey Nichols talks about the role of history museums, connecting history to today and the business of non-profit

Jeffrey Nichols is the Chief Executive Officer at The National Civil War Museum, and has over 25 years of museum experience. Jeffrey has held several leadership roles at various museums, including the Mark Twain House & Museum and Thomas Jefferson’s Poplar Forest. Jeffrey’s passion for history began during his college years in Connecticut, where he studied history and got his start at the New Haven Museum in his home state. Now, Jeffrey now leads The National Civil War Museum in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, with a commitment to preserving and sharing the stories of the Civil War era. In this interview, Jeffrey shares the role of history museums, connecting history to today, and the business of non-profit.    The Role of History Museums "People believe that museums are trustworthy." Now more than ever, museums are recognizing the importance of engaging their audiences beyond traditional methods. With traditional history lessons becoming less prevalent in classrooms, museums are stepping up to fill the gap and provide immersive, experiential learning opportunities that can't be replicated in a textbook. Jeffrey understands the significance and works to ensure that his museum is not only teaching history, but also creating an emotional connection to the past. Jeffrey emphasizes that by sharing both sides of a story and highlighting the true scale of an event, museums can create a more complete understanding and visitors will see more of the significance. By presenting a balanced narrative, visitors gain a deeper understanding of the complexities of past events and develop a much stronger perspective on these events.   Connecting History to Today "Museums and historic sites strive to broaden one's perspective." The study of history serves a multitude of purposes. Jeffrey shares that history educates us on our past mistakes, and gives us a benchmark to relate to current events. Not only this, but experiencing something like The National Civil War Museum builds critical thinking skills by allowing visitors to learn about history in a multi-dimensional way.  Jeffrey emphasizes that history is never black and white, much like the nature of the information we get in our world today. Jeffrey believes that by teaching history and fostering critical thinking skills, new and existing generations can develop the ability to analyze more complex situations, comprehend these diverse viewpoints, and make informed, strong decisions.   The Business of Non-Profit  “Having some business sense is important.” Jeffrey shares that getting his MBA while working at the Mark Twain House & Museum allowed him to gain a deeper understanding of strategic thinking and acquire new skills to help grow the business, which proved to be especially valuable when facing the challenges of growing a non-profit organization. By thinking in different directions, Jeffrey has been able to successfully contribute to the growth of The National Civil War Museum since his arrival.  One of the challenges Jeffrey has faced is the marketability and advertising of the museum experience. Due to the severity and importance of the exhibits in the museum, guests don’t take selfies or post about their experience on social media very often, but rather resort to word-of-mouth referrals. To help balance the gap, Jeffrey has built a digital platform for marketing, using the resources made available to him to help grow and attract guests to the Museum, such as adverts and easily accessible information on their website.   To connect with Jeffrey, you can find him on LinkedIn. To learn more about The National Civil War Museum, visit their website here.  This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
58m
25/04/2023

Episode 294 - Jerry Davis talks about constructing attractions, controlled chaos and balancing quality, time and cost

Jerry Davis is a seasoned professional in the construction and attractions industry, serving as the President and Principal of PeakCM, LLC, an award-winning construction firm specializing in a wide range of projects from theme parks to healthcare facilities. Jerry's passion for the attractions industry was ignited after graduating from UCF and landing his first job at Beers Construction, where he worked on the iconic Marvel Superhero Island at Universal's Islands of Adventure. Over the years, Jerry has been involved in numerous incredible projects, and took his expertise to establish PeakCM, his own construction management firm. In this interview, Jerry talks about constructing attractions, controlled chaos, and balancing quality, time, and cost.    Constructing Attractions "You need to learn how to manage the stress, pressure, and deadlines." Jerry understands that constructing attractions is a unique and complex endeavor, often described as an intersection of cutting-edge technology, groundbreaking art, and innovative design. One of the most daunting aspects of constructing attractions is managing the budget while maintaining high-quality standards. Jerry acknowledges that working within a specified budget without compromising on quality can be an incredibly tough task. Jerry recognizes that construction of attractions can be challenging, with various stakeholders, complex designs, and tight deadlines. To mitigate this chaos, Jerry emphasizes the importance of getting hands-on from the early stages of the project. One of these keys to success is when the contractor is brought on board early by the owner or project team, allowing for better communication, coordination, and alignment of expectations.   Controlled Chaos "Construction projects are like controlled chaos." Jerry acknowledges that construction projects, especially in the attractions industry, often face challenges with changes in design, unexpected issues, and potential impacts on timelines, quality, and costs. It is rare for a project to feel like it will be completed on time and on budget during the construction phase. To effectively combat these challenges, Jerry emphasizes the importance of proper communication channels and a culture of collaboration. Having the right people with the right expertise and mindset around you can make a significant difference in addressing issues head-on, rather than getting stuck in a cycle of problem-solving without finding a solution.   Balancing Quality, Time, and Cost "When you really want quality, your time gets sacrificed." The quality, time, and cost triangle is a fundamental concept in the construction industry. For years, contractors and owners have sought to strike the perfect balance among these three elements, but often have to make tough decisions, as achieving all three simultaneously can be borderline impossible. In recent times, however, the landscape has evolved with additional variables impacting the triangle. Factors such as extended lead times on materials and significant fluctuations in pricing have disrupted the traditional equation of time and cost. Jerry emphasizes that finding the right balance among quality, time, and cost is crucial to delivering a successful project, requiring effective communication with the owner and making educated and fair choices.   To connect with Jerry, you can find him on LinkedIn. To learn more about PeakCM, visit their website here.    This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the Kennedy Space Center’s branded mobile apps. Like us, the folks at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our experiences. Their latest launch adds in-app photos to the Attractions.io mobile app, giving guests more time to view, purchase and share their media with loved ones.  Impressively, 88% of consumers say they trust content and recommendations from their friends and family over any other form of marketing – making user-generated content, like photo sharing, an essential strategy for your marketing team this season (according to Nielsen, in its global Trust in Advertising Study in 2021). To learn more about Attractions.io and the new in-app photo feature, visit Attractions.io/photos.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
55m
18/04/2023

Episode 293 - Jeff Fromm talks about generational mindsets, moments that matter and knowing your editorial authority

Jeff Fromm is a serial entrepreneur, distinguished author, Forbes contributor, and a consultant for LANE|TERRALEVER. Jeff focuses on the study of youth marketing and trends, helping companies adapt to the new generations becoming more prominent in the market. Through his writing and research, Jeff has taken a deep dive into the attractions industry, seeking to learn what matters most to today’s consumers and employees, who are gaining more and more traction of economic power. In this interview, Jeff shares his knowledge of generational mindsets, moments that matter, and knowing your editorial authority.  Generational Mindsets   "You can be in your 50s and have a Gen Z mindset."   Simply put, generations are demographics. Oftentimes, we see splits in market interests and engagement between generations. Because of this, marketing needs to be applied in different ways to apply to different generations. Jeff knows that each generation has its own unique characteristics and preferences, which play a significant role in shaping their attitudes and behaviors towards various products and services. Understanding these differences is crucial for any business, including the attractions industry, to effectively market and reach their target audience.   However, generations are not limited to age ranges, despite the way that most people view them.  Generations should be viewed as mindsets that can transend age groups, debunking myths like everyone who is considered Gen Z due of their age is tech savvy, or that Baby Boomers don’t care about sustainability or social justice.  By focusing on generations as mindsets instead of birth year, you can better serve all of your stakeholders. Moments That Matter   "The new frontier for competition is all about the customer experience."   Jeff knows that in today's world, it's important to engage diverse audiences in a way that goes beyond simply providing information or entertainment. While these factors are crucial, it's equally important to ensure that the content resonates with the audience. By adding elements of surprise and delight to the experience, the education can become more meaningful and memorable and contribute to a better guest experience.   Creating memorable experiences for guests involves carefully crafting the entire guest journey, from pre-visit to post-visit. It's not just about keeping guests entertained while they're on-site, but also about building excitement leading up to their visit and encouraging them to share their experience on social media afterwards. Experiences need to be tailored to each stage of the journey, whether it's through targeted advertising, personalized communications, or unique experiences.   Knowing Your Editorial Authority   "Profit is good, but if you only focus on profit you aren't serving all of your stakeholders."   Jeff emphasizes that brands need to know their editorial authority. Knowing your company's position on a subject and taking proper action is absolutely crucial to success in the long term. Great brands can do it wrong, and Jeff states that the best way to go about these situations is to listen to your consumers, employees, and be consistent with your message.    Jeff shares that consumers will pay a small premium to companies whose values align with theirs. Staying true to your brand message can build an emotional connection with consumers and promote loyalty, making it easier to achieve your goals. By consistently upholding your company's values, you create a sense of trust with your audience and reinforce your brand identity, which can set you apart from competitors in the market.  To connect with Jeff, you can find him on LinkedIn or visit his website here.  This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the Kennedy Space Center’s branded mobile apps.   Like us, the folks at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our experiences. Their latest launch adds in-app photos to the Attractions.io mobile app, giving guests more time to view, purchase and share their media with loved ones.    Impressively, 88% of consumers say they trust content and recommendations from their friends and family over any other form of marketing – making user-generated content, like photo sharing, an essential strategy for your marketing team this season (according to Nielsen, in its global Trust in Advertising Study in 2021).   To learn more about Attractions.io and the new in-app photo feature, visit Attractions.io/photos. This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
55m
11/04/2023

Episode 292 - Ray Lauenstein talks about history of making waves, water amenities outside of water parks, and surfing without the ocean

Ray Lauenstein is the Director of Business Development at ADG (Aquatic Development Group), a leading North American waterpark design, construction, and manufacturing firm. From a young age, Ray had a passion for water and nature while he was exploring, and this passion continued to follow him through his professional career. After starting in sports leisure and baseball training, Ray found his way to ADG through a friend's recommendation, where he rekindled his love for water. With over a decade of experience at ADG, Ray was recently promoted to Director of Business Development, where he aims to bring the joy of water to people around the world. In this interview, Ray shares insights on the history of making waves, water amenities beyond traditional water parks, and surfing without the ocean. History of Making Waves   “When you stand still, you fade away.”   ADG initially entered the industry as a pool contractor, constructing Olympic-sized pools for clients in the region. However, as the market for traditional pools began to decline, ADG's leadership recognized the need to innovate and set themselves apart. They started drawing inspiration from around the world, and ventured into the market of creative water, which ultimately definesd their identity today.   As ADG continued to grow and innovate, they acquired other companies and continued to find inspiration for their products, which can now be found in water parks worldwide. Today, ADG is a design-build firm and manufacturer, offering a wide range of products and services to help clients take their next big dive in the market. Water Amenities Outside of Water Parks   “Everyone loves water.”   While ADG is well-known for their work in water parks, they have expanded their reach into other sectors as well. They have worked with clients in RV resorts, zoos, aquariums, and other areas where water-based entertainment could add another dimension to the experience. ADG's focus on innovation has allowed them to continue pushing the boundaries of what's possible, and their expertise in creating unique water experiences is highly sought after by their clients.   Water features are a versatile and universal attraction that can enhance any environment, regardless of language or cultural barriers. Whether it's a pool in a sports stadium or an interactive spray pool in an aquarium, these water features can add a dynamic and immersive dimension to any experience. The appeal of water-based entertainment is widespread, and by incorporating these features into new areas, the guest experience can be taken to another level.  Surfing Without the Ocean    “Surf is the anchor, and we’re layering it with the social piece.”   Starting with a small attraction off of I–drive in Orlando, ADG has always been working to create surf technology ahead of its time. Since catching their first wave, ADG has gone through many renditions of their compact surfing simulator, eventually leading them to epic-surf, a surfing simulator that can use a real surfboard with a water depth of 3-5 ft.    With this innovation, ADG can create new experiences for land-locked guests, and also help inspire the next generation of great surfers. After all, anywhere people can find a wave, they’ll ride it. By taking advantage of this growing market ADG hopes to take compact-footprint surfing to the next level.  To connect with Ray, you can find him on LinkedIn. To learn more about ADG, visit their website here.  This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the PGA Championship’s branded mobile apps. Like us, the team at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our guest experiences and ensure they exceed the expectations of today’s digitally native guests. By combining a branded mobile app with an operator console that consolidates behavioral data from every touchpoint in the guest journey, the Attractions.io platform empowers operators with the tools they need to increase guest satisfaction, spending, and loyalty. To learn more about how Attractions.io can help you connect your end-to-end guest experience, visit Attractions.io/howitworks.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
56m
04/04/2023

Episode 291: Matt and Josh talk about high expectations and how to exceed them

Expectations are funny things. As businesses, we strive to exceed them so our guests will want to come back and also share their great experiences with others. The problem is that each guest may have a different set of expectations based on various inputs and experiences, so defining what the expectations are and what exceeding them looks like can be a challenge. In this episode, Matt shares a recent experience where the perception of exceeding expectations was thought to possibly have a negative connotation, which was quite a surprise. Matt asked Josh for his thoughts, and the following conversation about high expectations and how to exceed them was born.   Expectations and experiences are both difficult to define   Expectations and experiences are in the eye of the beholder. With varied backgrounds, inputs, stimuli, and reactions, it’s unlikely that different people will perceive that same experience in the same way. Businesses that can seek to understand the majority of their guests' expectations and design experiences to exceed those expectations will be the ones who can consistently captivate their audiences.   Over-promise and over-deliver your over-promise   When marketing an experience, organizations have to strike a fine balance between driving the anticipation of their offerings and the execution in real-time. Many will say, under-promise, so your delivery will create a WOW for your guests. We discuss a different tactic; to over-promise AND over-deliver on your over-promise! In the highly competitive market for your guests' free time and disposable income, you must entice them to visit, get off the couch, get the kids ready, research your policies and hours, and make the decision to give you a try. That takes a compelling message that, if mishandled, could mean that people choose a different outlet for their entertainment. This tactic also means you HAVE to execute at the highest levels because you have raised the stakes, and your guests will be waiting to see if you can deliver.    The intangible moments are where you go beyond what you promised   We’ve all had those moments. Those instances that elevate our view of the experience and make it memorable. Like expectations, those moments can be hard to define, but you know it when you feel it. The best organizations know what those feelings are, beyond the behavior, and empower their teams to do what’s right in the moment to create the emotional reaction and connection that leads to loyalty and great word of mouth. Sometimes those intangible moments can’t be planned. They can’t be put on a schedule. It’s a perfect storm of the employee having a deep understanding of what the guest is looking for so they can deliver on that in an authentic way.   Meets before exceeds   It should almost go without saying that organizations need to work to meet the defined need before trying to exceed it. In the case of an employee, meeting their expectations may include a safe environment, getting paid on time, and a fair schedule. If those are not met, employees will have a hard time buying into efforts made by their leaders - even if they qualify as intangible moments. Those exceeding efforts will fall flat because the basic needs have not been met.  This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the PGA Championship’s branded mobile apps. Like us, the team at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our guest experiences and ensure they exceed the expectations of today’s digitally native guests. By combining a branded mobile app with an operator console that consolidates behavioral data from every touchpoint in the guest journey, the Attractions.io platform empowers operators with the tools they need to increase guest satisfaction, spending, and loyalty. To learn more about how Attractions.io can help you connect your end-to-end guest experience, visit Attractions.io/howitworks.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
48m
28/03/2023

Episode 290: Gina Claassen talks about knowing your appetite for risk, lifelong learning, and balancing tension

Gina Claassen is the Vice President of Safety at Herschend Enterprises, a family-owned entertainment company focused on bringing safe family fun to people from all over the world. Growing up on a farm, Gina found her passion for attractions in college, when she got a summer job at Silver Dollar City. After gaining more knowledge about the industry, she volunteered as a show ambassador at the IAAPA convention in Orlando, which ultimately led to her joining Herschend Enterprises full time. Throughout her career, Gina has progressed from an attractions supervisor to her current role as Vice President of Safety. She also contributes to the industry by educating at events such as AIMS and IAAPA to help improve industry safety practices and standards. In this interview, Gina talks about knowing your appetite for risk, lifelong learning, and balancing tension. Knowing Your Appetite for Risk   "If we don't accept any risk, no one would open."   Gina emphasizes that risk is an inherent part of life and must be managed, particularly in an industry where safety is paramount. She recognizes that every second of operation comes with a potential risk, but by creating a robust safety culture and implementing comprehensive training programs, frontline team members can effectively mitigate these risks. By prioritizing safety in all aspects of the business, the chances of accidents or incidents can be significantly reduced, ultimately leading to a safer and more enjoyable experience for guests.   Gina has developed a three-step plan for managing "Risk Appetite," which involves identifying the risks, evaluating the current practices in place, and determining whether they are effective or require changes. To delve deeper into these subjects, it's essential to work collaboratively as a team. These concepts are applicable at every stage of the process, from design and construction to operation. By implementing this approach, the team can continually assess and improve safety practices, ensuring that all potential risks are identified and managed effectively so that Herschend can continue to provide safe, wholesome family fun.   Lifelong Learning   "We're all lifelong learners."   Herschend's GROW U program provides a tremendous benefit to its employees, offering 100% free tuition to more than 11,000 individuals. Gina identifies the driving forces behind this initiative as the company's belief that everyone wants to learn, and their commitment to personal and professional growth.    As an educator herself, Gina recognizes the importance of learning, so she can  regularly be found teaching at events such as AIMS and IAAPA. Through her involvement in educating others about safety in the industry, Gina continues to learn and grow as a professional. While she deeply values the opportunity to learn, she has also grown accustomed to being a voice for safety within the industry. Balancing Tension   "We have to balance the tension to get the results we want."   To be a leader in safety, Gina says the greatest attribute is loving the challenge. When it comes to balancing tension and making tough choices, Gina claims that one of the most important aspects is being in a room full of different viewpoints. By building a team that shares these unique ideas, the tension of the decisions can be balanced in new and unique ways.    Another big aspect of balancing tension is remembering the big picture. By remembering that the end goal is to provide wholesome family fun, the conversation moves from a tense environment to a more fun, open minded conversation. By implementing these tactics and properly balancing the tension, the results are more than favorable.  To connect with Gina, you can find her on LinkedIn. To learn more about Herschend Enterprises, visit their website here.  This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the PGA Championship’s branded mobile apps. Like us, the team at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our guest experiences and ensure they exceed the expectations of today’s digitally native guests. By combining a branded mobile app with an operator console that consolidates behavioral data from every touchpoint in the guest journey, the Attractions.io platform empowers operators with the tools they need to increase guest satisfaction, spending, and loyalty. To learn more about how Attractions.io can help you connect your end-to-end guest experience, visit Attractions.io/howitworks.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
53m
21/03/2023

Episode 289: Ade Jones talks about adventure tourism, freedom to succeed, and community relations

Adrian Jones is the CEO of Zip World UK, a company that specializes in creating unique and thrilling adventures. From the world's fastest zipline to underground mini-golf, Ade is an expert in taking experiences to the next level. Ade began his career working the frontlines at Alton Towers. This began a career with Merlin Entertainments spanning nearly three decades, where he served as General Manager of Madam Tussauds in Las Vegas and Los Angelos, opened LEGOLAND Florida as General Manager in 2011, before being promoted to President & Divisional Director of Midway Attractions in North America, and then Global New Concepts Development Director.. Recently, he became the CEO of Zip World, where he continues to innovate and create new, exciting experiences for guests. In this interview, Ade shares his insights on adventure tourism, the importance of giving people the freedom to succeed, and building strong relationships with local communities.   Adventure Tourism   "The adventure market is growing massively."   Adventure tourism gives guests the opportunity to experience some of the most unique things our world has to offer. When Ade started with Zip World, he was impressed with how positive the reviews were and how engaged guests were with the facilities. By providing a wide range of attractions for the entire family and creating a great guest experience, Zip World captures the attention of their guests.   Ultimately, the attractions industry is about selling fun, something Ade fell in love with when he got his start. One of the best ways to sell fun is to create a facility that can't be replicated virtually. For instance, the caverns at Zip World contain 200 years of formations, and the personal interactions with employees can’t be replicated in the digital space.   Freedom to Succeed   "If someone is frightened to fail, they won't take any risks."   Another key to the success of Zip World is the employee culture. Ade knows that the ‘People Agenda’ is a huge priority when it comes to building a successful culture. To take employees to the next level, Ade emphasizes the importance of creating the freedom to succeed. By implementing this culture, employees get the chance to build who they are and help create a dynamic business.   Mistakes build who we are, and by creating a freedom to succeed, we also create the freedom to fail. Failure is important, and everyone can learn from their mistakes. Ade knows that by failing, we can become stronger in the places we were broken before, which is something that could benefit any operation.    Community Relations   “We were very sympathetic; we listened.”   One of Ade’s greatest challenges was leading the development of LEGOLAND Florida while simultaneously creating a great relationship with the Winter Haven community. By holding town halls and being open to feedback from the locals, Winter Haven is now proud to have LEGOLAND Florida as a staple in their community.    Ade's most valuable lessons were about the importance of following through on your promises and the impact of small gestures. When working with homeowners and existing communities, it's crucial to be mindful and considerate. By being transparent and keeping promises, trust can be built and disasters can be avoided. These actions contribute to fostering a positive and cooperative spirit within the community. To connect with Ade, you can find him on LinkedIn. To learn more about Zip World, you can visit their website here. This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the PGA Championship’s branded mobile apps. Like us, the team at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our guest experiences and ensure they exceed the expectations of today’s digitally native guests. By combining a branded mobile app with an operator console that consolidates behavioral data from every touchpoint in the guest journey, the Attractions.io platform empowers operators with the tools they need to increase guest satisfaction, spending, and loyalty. To learn more about how Attractions.io can help you connect your end-to-end guest experience, visit Attractions.io/howitworks.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
56m
14/03/2023

Episode 288: Dan Cockerell talks about marketing campaigns for leaders, applying your passion and letting go of ego

Dan Cockerell is a Disney Keynote Speaker and co-founder of the Cockrell Consulting Group alongside his wife, Valerie. Dan discovered his passion for service while working in the industry during his college summer months. He pursued a degree in Political Science at Boston University and after graduation, he ventured to Florida to work for Disney. Dan began by parking cars at Epcot, and then took the opportunity to open Euro Disney (now Disneyland Paris), also in parking, before returning to Walt Disney World in Orlando. In due time, he was promoted to Vice President of Epcot, and he later held the same role for Disney’s Hollywood Studios and Magic Kingdom. Dan’s most recent adventure has been his consulting business, helping companies worldwide provide more for their guests and reach their own goals. In this interview, Dan talks about marketing campaigns for leaders, applying your passion, and letting go of ego.    Marketing Campaigns for Leaders   "You've got to learn to fly at 10,000 feet, and you've got to learn to walk on the tarmac."   Drawing on his experience as a former Disney executive, Dan understands that providing a great guest experience hinges on a positive employee experience. Ultimately, when holding a leadership position at the world's largest single-site employer, it can be challenging to connect with everyone working the front lines. To overcome this obstacle, Dan devised a strategy to establish his reputation as a leader and to create a friendly atmosphere when interacting with his frontline team.   By allocating one hour every day to walk the park, Dan made sure that he was consistently seen by his team while learning the truth about the operation. Oftentimes, Dan would buy his team members lunch, or offer them assistance if they seem to be in a tough situation. By consistently interacting with his team members and listening to what they have to say, it showed intention and care. Other leadership at the park quickly followed in Dan’s footsteps, helping bring a new level of communication and excellence to the operation.    Applying your passion   "Hire for skills, passion, and attitude."   Passion is a huge motivator in the attractions industry, and Dan believes in using that passion to achieve goals beyond providing excellent guest experiences. Dan has identified four essential elements to help build a successful operation based on this same passion that drives people to the industry.   The first key is attitude. Dan believes that team members should have the courage to overcome obstacles and keep pushing forward. The second key is relationships. Building strong connections with colleagues and guests is crucial to establish effective communication. The third key is expectations. Setting clear expectations of what greatness looks like and how to achieve it is crucial for a successful team. Lastly, recognizing and reinforcing positive behavior is important to motivate team members to continue performing at their best. Letting go of Ego   "Just because you're in a role with a certain title, it doesn't mean that you're smarter than everyone else."   Dan has gained a wealth of experience over the years, and he has learned from numerous mistakes. One of his most significant takeaways from his time at Disney is the importance of letting go of ego. Although holding a special role with substantial responsibilities may be prestigious, the truth is that the person only got to that position due to the support of the people around them. The reality is that you cannot and should not accomplish anything alone, regardless of how insignificant the task may seem.   Dan knows there’s lots of value in effective communication, and he believes that ego can often impede it. Dan stresses the importance of sticking to the basics and being a team player within your operation. By doing so, you can elevate your performance by incorporating the ideas of the people around you. The best leaders keep themselves surrounded by people who are smarter than they are. When leaders fail to take input or advice from their team, it can have a detrimental impact on the operation.   To connect with Dan, you can find him on LinkedIn. To learn more about Cockrell Consulting, you can find their website here.  This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the PGA Championship’s branded mobile apps. Like us, the team at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our guest experiences and ensure they exceed the expectations of today’s digitally native guests. By combining a branded mobile app with an operator console that consolidates behavioral data from every touchpoint in the guest journey, the Attractions.io platform empowers operators with the tools they need to increase guest satisfaction, spending, and loyalty. To learn more about how Attractions.io can help you connect your end-to-end guest experience, visit Attractions.io/howitworks.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
52m
07/03/2023

Episode 287: Josh and Matt talk about infusing Guest Experience Initiatives into the Employee Lifecycle

The guest experience is influenced by many factors, but none are more crucial than our employees. Their interactions with guests can make or break a visit and impact the guests' perception of an experience. To fully immerse our team members in the guest experience, it must be integrated into every aspect of the employee lifecycle, from recruitment to offboarding. By doing so, we can create a sustainable culture of hospitality for both our guests and employees. In this episode, Matt and Josh delve into strategies for infusing guest experience initiatives into the employee lifecycle, to ensure that every touchpoint with our team members enhances the guest experience.   Building your culture of hospitality   Creating a culture of hospitality for your team members is about more than throwing a pizza party. It requires a comprehensive approach that integrates the guest experience into every aspect of the employee lifecycle. With this foundation in place, we can establish a workplace environment that embodies hospitality, enabling our team members to deliver an exceptional experience to our guests. This holistic approach will equip team members to go above and beyond, resulting in an even more memorable and satisfying experience for guests interacting with our employees.   Recruitment   Recruitment is the art of building relationships with potential team members and represents the first touchpoint in the employee lifecycle. By infusing the guest experience mentality into the recruitment process, we can identify strong candidates who possess admirable traits and align with the company culture and mission statement. During the interview, we can define a realistic scenario that the candidate may encounter on the job and outline the parameters they would need to work within. By emphasizing the importance of the guest experience from the outset and finding candidates eager to create those experiences, we can develop employees who are better equipped to deliver exceptional experiences.   Onboarding   Onboarding is the touchpoint in the employee lifecycle where team members gain insight into the inner workings of the company and experience what it's like to work in the facility. Instead of overwhelming employees with information during orientation, we should focus on creating an experience that we would provide to our guests. By instilling a feeling of confidence and the excitement of thinking "I made the right decision," employees develop a stronger connection to the company and are better equipped to deliver exceptional guest experiences. By immersing new team members in the guest experience mentality during onboarding, we can foster this culture of hospitality and set the stage for success.   Training   When we transition into the training touchpoint, it’s advantageous to build on the foundation of a team member’s previous experiences with the company, such as if they have visited as a guest in the past. By doing so, we can ensure that the guest experience remains infused throughout the entire process, while also helping to develop stronger team members. Effective training not only imparts the necessary knowledge and skills, but also establishes a sense of connection within the company. When these phases are connected and work in harmony, employees can better understand how their work fits into the larger picture, which can foster a sense of purpose and motivation. Additionally, by aligning the training process with the company's values and culture, we can ensure that new team members feel invested in the success of the organization from their first day of on the job training.   Development   To infuse guest experience into development, create a mentality where it's 'cool to care' about the guest experience. When team members feel invested in the success of the experience, they become more motivated and committed to the mission. This can be done by recognizing and amplifying success, as well as providing constructive feedback to address imperfections. By doing so, we can create a culture of continuous improvement and ensure that our team members are always striving to provide the best possible experience for our guests. However, this mentality needs to be instilled from the top-down, and consistency is key. All levels of the organization, from frontline employees to executives, must be committed to the development and training of team members. Without consistency in this regard, the system breaks at its layers, and fails to create a sustainable positive culture.   Offboarding   Offboarding is often overlooked in the employee lifecycle, but it can have a significant impact on the guest experience. When team members leave, they become guests again, and how we treat them can influence their perception of our company. To maintain a positive relationship, we need to think beyond the typical exit interview and develop creative ways to show our appreciation. For instance, offering former employees long-term discounts or occasional tickets can keep them engaged as advocates for our brand. Another strategy is to establish an alumni program, which not only maintains the connection with former team members but also helps address staffing needs.    But here's the catch: none of this will work if we don't treat our employees well and create a sustainable positive culture. By building a strong foundation throughout the employee lifecycle, we can create a workforce that is invested in our mission and committed to delivering exceptional guest experiences, even after they move on. This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the PGA Championship’s branded mobile apps. Like us, the team at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our guest experiences and ensure they exceed the expectations of today’s digitally native guests. By combining a branded mobile app with an operator console that consolidates behavioral data from every touchpoint in the guest journey, the Attractions.io platform empowers operators with the tools they need to increase guest satisfaction, spending, and loyalty. To learn more about how Attractions.io can help you connect your end-to-end guest experience, visit Attractions.io/howitworks.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
56m
28/02/2023

Episode 286: Jeroen Nijpels talks about selling roller coasters, relationship-based marketing, and advice for young professionals

Jeroen Nijpels is the Owner and Managing Director of JNELC. After several years of experience of theme park planning and attraction sales in Asia and Europe, Jeroen established JNELC to assist parks in purchasing attractions. Throughout his career, Jeroen has developed strong relationships and has been instrumental in leading IAAPA’s young professionals program. Jeroen is also currently the Chair of IAAPA’s Manufacturer & Supplier Committee and serves on the Board of Directors. In this interview, Jeroen shares insights into the challenges of selling roller coasters, the importance of relationship-based marketing, and valuable advice for young professionals aspiring to excel in the industry.   Selling Roller Coasters   “The bottom line is… I sell roller coasters.”   Selling roller coasters (along with other types of rides and attractions) is an art that goes far beyond just adding an attraction to a facility. It involves a comprehensive approach that considers various factors such as the target audience and unforeseen/indirect costs. Jeroen understands that each sale is a defining moment for his company, and he strives to make it successful by incorporating portfolio management and a 'big picture' ideology into his sales practice.   Jeroen uses every sale as an opportunity to learn and improve his approach, which helps him become a more effective manager for his clients year after year. By prioritizing a holistic approach to roller coaster sales and figuring out what sticks from previous sales, Jeroen has established a reputation for delivering results that exceed his clients' expectations.   Relationship-Based Marketing   "Our industry is friendly towards its competition."   Jeroen's goal when working with new clients is to establish long-term relationships. JNELC recognizes that purchasing roller coasters and attractions is a significant investment, and they strive to maintain contact with clients to remain updated on their needs and preferences. By keeping this connection, Jeroen has been successful in turning new clients into lifelong customers.   Jeroen leverages his existing relationships to build new connections and expand his network. Instead of exhibiting at trade shows, JNELC instead opts to host social events for both existing and potential clients. By taking a patient and proactive approach, JNELC builds strong, lasting connections that extend beyond typical business interactions. This strategy has allowed Jeroen to cultivate a network of clients who trust and value his expertise, making JNELC a go-to source for purchasing attractions and related services. Advice for Young Professionals   "Ask questions, and ask people for help."   Jeroen spearheaded the establishment of the IAAPA Young Professionals program nearly two decades ago, finding motivation to create this program after interacting with young talents who expressed their difficulties in networking with industry professionals and breaking into the industry. In response, Jeroen helped create a program that provides young professionals with networking opportunities and helps them step out of their comfort zone.   With almost three decades of experience in the industry, Jeroen advises young professionals to broaden their network and seek help from others. By interacting with more people outside of their current network and taking initiative, young professionals can gain a deeper understanding of the industry and identify their career goals. By setting these goals and pursuing them with determination, success is within reach.   To connect with Jeroen, you can find him on LinkedIn. To learn more about JNELC, you can find their website here.  This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the PGA Championship’s branded mobile apps. Like us, the team at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our guest experiences and ensure they exceed the expectations of today’s digitally native guests. By combining a branded mobile app with an operator console that consolidates behavioral data from every touchpoint in the guest journey, the Attractions.io platform empowers operators with the tools they need to increase guest satisfaction, spending, and loyalty. To learn more about how Attractions.io can help you connect your end-to-end guest experience, visit Attractions.io/howitworks.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
55m
21/02/2023

Episode 285: Brandon Thom talks about making genuine connections, enabling leaders, and following your unique path

Brandon Thom, an experienced theme park executive, discovered his passion for the attractions industry after working in banking for an oil and gas lender. By having an insatiable fascination for amusement parks since his childhood, Brandon realized that his heart was set on working in the industry. Brandon's journey in the attractions industry began when he served as a Show Ambassador for the 2013 IAAPA convention. After the event, Brandon landed an internship at Busch Gardens Williamsburg and quickly transitioned to a full-time role on the team. Since then, Brandon has held various leadership positions at Universal Orlando Resort, Merlin Entertainments, and most recently, he served as the Vice President of Adventure Island for Sea World Parks & Entertainment. In this interview, Brandon talks about making genuine connections, enabling leaders, and following your unique path.  Making Genuine Connections   "The connections have to be authentic and genuine, otherwise the person will see right through it."   As a young professional, Brandon understood the importance of networking for success in the industry. However, he also knows that many people make mistakes while networking, such as relying too much on a single contact or being insincere in their approach. To achieve real success in networking, Brandon emphasizes the importance of building friendships, rather than just connections.   Brandon's advice is simple: when networking, don't get caught up in someone's job title or position. Instead, focus on finding common ground and building a connection based on shared interests beyond just professional goals/aspirations. This will help you avoid a boring, insincere conversation and develop a stronger bond with your contact. After all, networking should be enjoyable. Enabling Leaders   "Our industry is fortunate to have a lot of engaged leaders."   Enabling leaders is crucial to the success of any operation. By giving leaders the confidence they need, you can build a strong team that can withstand challenges and create an excellent guest experience.   However, Brandon stresses the importance of understanding the difference between enabling and empowering leaders. Enabling team members may give them some minor responsibilities, but it doesn't necessarily grant them freedom to run a section of the operation and truly learn. This approach could limit them to following orders rather than truly developing as leaders. In contrast, empowering team members gives them significant responsibilities and the opportunity to learn from their mistakes. When a leader makes a mistake, they should be eager to improve. Fortunately, the attractions industry has many engaged leaders who are committed to making things right. To discourage mistakes, we should demonstrate what they missed out on by not getting it right, rather than merely reprimanding them for their errors. Following Your Unique Path   "Your story is different than everybody else's."   Brandon didn't kickstart his career until he was in graduate school, after watching many of his friends land stable careers. The greatest lesson Brandon shares is to follow your own path and avoid comparing yourself to others. It's okay to start later than your peers. As with many other aspects of the industry, have fun and enjoy the experience.   Brandon encourages people seeking to start a career in attractions to avoid putting unnecessary pressure on themselves by constantly planning for the future. Instead, focus on doing what makes you happy by taking it one step at a time. When speaking with other young professionals, Brandon enjoys sharing his story and often encourages his audience to avoid common stressors that can make their industry experiences overwhelming. To connect with Brandon, you can find him on LinkedIn.    This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the PGA Championship’s branded mobile apps. Like us, the team at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our guest experiences and ensure they exceed the expectations of today’s digitally native guests. By combining a branded mobile app with an operator console that consolidates behavioral data from every touchpoint in the guest journey, the Attractions.io platform empowers operators with the tools they need to increase guest satisfaction, spending, and loyalty. To learn more about how Attractions.io can help you connect your end-to-end guest experience, visit Attractions.io/howitworks.   This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
51m
14/02/2023

Episode 284: Kimberly Beaudin talks about bringing game day energy, the 4 C’s of leadership, and college football as a lifestyle

Kimberly Beaudin is the Chief Executive Officer at the College Football Hall of Fame. Located in Atlanta, GA, the interactive experience and hall of fame immortalizes players of college football dating back to 1951. Kimberly began her career at Disney, where she developed a love for attractions and hospitality. After several years of marketing experience, Kimberly joined the College Football Hall of Fame, and was promoted to CEO in early 2020. In this interview, Kimberly talks about bringing game day energy, the 4 C’s of leadership, and college football as a lifestyle.  Bringing Game Day Energy   "We're here to deliver a wonderful experience to our guests... and we should enjoy doing it."   Kimberly knows that the best way to engage their guests is to have staff energy spill into the guest experience. From the moment guests walk into the main entrance, Kimberly wants them to be completely immersed in game day energy and all the amazing feelings that come with college football.   Fan Ambassadors are essential in creating the game day energy. By building a team that interacts with the guests in a personal and exciting manner, it compliments the already interactive experience and helps build the emotions that fight songs and rivalries bring every game day. Kimberly has built this living, breathing experience to go beyond the 3 story helmet wall and into the hearts of their guests.  The 4 C’s of Leadership   "I believe that leaders need to lead with confidence, courage, conviction, and compassion."   Kimberly’s leadership philosophy is to work hard and play hard. To accomplish this, she uses the 4 C’s of leadership she’s developed throughout her career: confidence, courage, conviction, and compassion.   Confidence means ‘knowing your stuff’ and not being afraid to share your ideas. Courage is the ability to keep moving forward and not being timid when it comes time to make a decision. Conviction is having the ability to make those tough decisions and put your foot down when it’s needed. Finally, compassion is treating people the way they want to be treated.   The 4 C’s all play into each other, and although words like conviction and compassion may seem contradictory, they actually feed off of their connection and help develop great leadership practice. By developing one of the C’s, you actually develop all of them, as every word is connected.  College Football as a Lifestyle   "The drive to succeed in team sports is a direct parallel to business."   College football is one of the most popular sports in America. For many, watching their alma mater on the field can pull at their heartstrings and get them much more invested in the game since they’re representing something close to their heart. Additionally, generational fandom and rivalries are even more big factors that get people invested in the world of college sports.   Kimberly knows that these ideas behind college football also apply to many other things. Passion is a huge aspect in life, whether it be with hobbies or in the workplace. Additionally, this passion creates bonds that unites groups together, both large and small. Overall, implementing the ideology of college football into the workplace or anywhere else can create a great environment for all the people involved.  To connect with Kimberly, you can connect with her on LinkedIn. To learn more about the College Football Hall of Fame, click here.   This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the PGA Championship’s branded mobile apps. Like us, the team at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our guest experiences and ensure they exceed the expectations of today’s digitally native guests. By combining a branded mobile app with an operator console that consolidates behavioral data from every touchpoint in the guest journey, the Attractions.io platform empowers operators with the tools they need to increase guest satisfaction, spending, and loyalty. To learn more about how Attractions.io can help you connect your end-to-end guest experience, visit Attractions.io/howitworks. This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
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07/02/2023

Episode 283: Matt and Josh talk about the evolving role of the frontline team member

The role of the frontline team member in the attractions industry is changing. As technology continues to evolve, fewer team members are needed to complete certain functions than before. This isn’t a new phenomenon, but certainly accelerated in recent years, in part due to trends coming from the pandemic where more functions were made contactless and self-service. Additionally, with the labor challenges that the industry has been facing, there are more and more conversations being had about how to do mre with less, as many businesses are hiring fewer team members and at a higher wage. In this episode, Matt and Josh put their minds together to discuss the evolving role of the frontline team member.   The role of the frontline team member is evolving due to a combination of technology and wage increases. It’s no surprise that the pandemic drastically changed many unique aspects of the industry, but one of the sizable changes observed has impacted the entire workforce. Wage increases have been happening across the world as a result of the impact that the pandemic had on the labor market. Since our frontline employees are demanding higher wages and are also having many aspects of their job changed by the incorporation of technology, their role needs to evolve so we can keep providing a great guest and employee experience.   If you have fewer team members and are paying them more, this raises their standards and your expectations from them to deliver a superior guest experience. If a guest were to go to a park and interact with 10 team members, and 9 delivered a great interaction, most would say that they had a great overall experience. However, with fewer team members and less interaction with them due to the use of technology, that 1 ‘dud’ team member may be the only interaction a guest has in their day, resulting in the guest developing a completely different perspective.  With fewer team members, there is less of a chance to make a good impression. To combat this, our frontline team members need to become well equipped and have fewer barriers so that when they interact with guests, they can have a great interaction and solve problems with ease.    With less in the way, team members can exceed guests' expectations by proactively anticipating needs and create "wow" moments more easily. As technology and automation help to remove many functions of your team members’ job duties, this enables them to have more opportunities to facilitate personal interactions.  Leaders should take a close look at their job descriptions and employee handbooks and determine if “exceeding expectations” is part of their daily routine, or if it is considered an afterthought.   By fully focusing on the guest experience, frontline team members can gain a higher sense of fulfillment and satisfaction with their jobs. Since technology has the ability to handle many redundant aspects of the industry such as ticket selling or front of line passes, we can allow our employees to become guest experience ambassadors. By giving them a strong purpose and equipping them with the proper toolset, they can make guests happy every day, one of the main reasons many people work in the industry.  By giving team members fulfillment and purpose, they begin to develop a sense of excitement when coming to work, and a fun drive home after their day is over. Instead of creating stressful environments where our frontline team members are doing the same actions, they can instead be trusted to create memories and feel excited about who they’ll interact with the next day.    How are you keeping up with the inevitable evolution of your frontline team members in the attractions industry? This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]   This episode is kindly sponsored by Attractions.io, the guest experience platform behind Merlin Entertainments’, San Diego Zoo’s, and the PGA Championship’s branded mobile apps.  Like us, the team at Attractions.io are on a mission to elevate our guest experiences and ensure they exceed the expectations of today’s digitally native guests. By combining a branded mobile app with an operator console that consolidates behavioral data from every touchpoint in the guest journey, the Attractions.io platform empowers operators with the tools they need to increase guest satisfaction, spending, and loyalty. To learn more about how Attractions.io can help you connect your end-to-end guest experience, visit Attractions.io/howitworks.
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31/01/2023

Episode 282: Jakob Wahl talks about being curious, staying relevant, and the IAAPA member experience

Jakob Wahl is the President and CEO of the International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions (IAAPA). Frequently visiting the hometown carnival he grew up with in Germany, Jakob fell in love with the attractions industry at a young age. Jakob’s first summer job was checking tickets at Phantasialand, and he quickly made a career out of it once he graduated. Jakob became a Programme Manager for IAAPA Europe and stayed there for four years until he joined Europa-Park’s management team, later becoming the executive manager for special projects. Jakob later came back to IAAPA as the Vice President of IAAPA Europe, later being promoted to COO, and as of January 1st, President and CEO of the organization. In his first interview as CEO of IAAPA, Jakob talks about being curious, staying relevant, and the IAAPA member experience.    Being Curious   "Be curious, and don't be afraid."   One of Jakob’s biggest sources of inspiration was Steve Jobs, one of the world’s greatest minds, primarily accredited to his curiosity. Jakob emphasizes that there is always something you can learn in any situation, even if you don’t believe it has relevance to what you do. Whether it’s something not to do or something you can do differently, when you’re curious, everything has more value.    Jakob applies these ideas to his team as well. By bringing in great minds that are better than you in certain practices, you can create a powerful team fueled by curiosity. By giving your employees freedom to disagree and encouraging them to act on their ideas, you can stretch your organization’s limits far beyond what you thought was possible by empowering the idea of curiosity.     Staying Relevant   “This association is more than 100 years old, and we have always adapted to service our members.”   One of the greatest challenges many organizations face today is the idea of staying relevant, whether its new expansions in the metaverse or different social media platforms, organizations have to adapt and find new ways to connect to their audience. Jakob knows the importance of staying relevant, and he’s already beginning to bring IAAPA into the new digital age.    Jakob wants members to know that IAAPA is not only a trade show, but rather an organization with the primary purpose of servicing our industry 365 days a year in many forms. By implementing a regional strategy and servicing members by providing more accessible information, Jakob is creating a stronger outreach and bond with members. Even with all of these advancements, we don’t see a metaverse trade show happening anytime soon, and Jakob shares that IAAPA will never forget the power of physical and personal interaction.    The IAAPA Member Experience   "Yes, it is a business, but it's also an experience."   For those who visited the 2022 IAAPA expo, you’ll know that it was much more than a trade show. With a DJ in the entrance and awesome displays of industry innovations, IAAPA is working to make the member experience even better with more social and networking events.    Jakob emphasizes that service is IAAPA’s priority, and IAAPA is going through great lengths to innovate and personalize your experience. With new services like the Connect+ app where you can connect with other members, or the IAAPA marketplace where members can contact vendors, IAAPA is working to bring an even more connected future to the attractions industry.  To contact Jakob, you can connect with him on LinkedIn. To learn more about IAAPA, you can visit their website here.  This podcast wouldn't be possible without the incredible work of our amazing team: Scheduling and correspondence by Kristen Karaliunas Summary by Mason Nichols Video editing by Abigail Giganan   To connect with AttractionPros: [email protected]
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24/01/2023

Episode 281 - Charles Coyle talks about learning from growing pains, rebranding a park, continuing a legacy

Charles Coyle is General Manager and Managing Director of Emerald Park, Ireland's only theme park & zoo.  If you have never heard of Emerald Park, don’t feel bad, the park has operated since 2010 as Tayto Park, but in March of 2023 will reopen as the rebranded Emerald Park. The new name reflects the spirit of Ireland and harkens back to the country's nickname, the Emerald Isle. In this fascinating episode, Charles talks about rebranding a park, learning from growing pains and continuing a legacy.  Rebranding a park   "If we were to ever change the name of the park, now is the time to do it."   Charles and his team reached a critical juncture where expansion of the park was imminent and marketing the current name and identity was not lucrative for reaching outside of mainland Ireland. They felt if they didn’t do it now, there would be no turning back.   Rebranding a park is no small task. Picking a name is tough enough, but then you have to think about every place the old logo, name or likeness was placed so it can be changed. Charles says that right now the marketing team is working really hard to ensure that all of the old logos and insignia are changed out before opening. Charles has a realistic view saying it’s likely they will miss something along the way, but that’s okay. Learning from growing pains   "You learn more from your failures than you do from your successes."   In 2015, the park had an amazing year… sort of. Attendance was up, spending was up, profits were up. Unfortunately, so were guest complaints. Because they were not ready for the influx of guests that year, they disappointed many of them and the park saw a pretty significant dip in attendance the following year.   To overcome this, Charles said they had to not just say to their guests, “Hey, we're better now”, they also had to invest in infrastructure and facilities so they could accommodate more guests. This meant not just adding attractions, but also looking at bathrooms and how the crowds would be managed. Ultimately it took about 3 years to win back the trust from the guests.  Continuing a legacy   "As I was able to learn and grow, the park grew as well."   Charles literally grew up at the park working alongside his Dad, Raymond. Raymond was the visionary that created Tayto Park and built it up to the destination it is. Unfortunately, Raymond passed away before the rebranding was complete, but Charles will tell you that his Dad’s fingerprint is on every inch of that park.   Charles now has big shoes to fill as he carries on his Dad’s legacy. He seems up to the task, never forgetting the lessons he has learned as he and the park grew up together.  To learn more about Emerald Park, visit their website or check them out on Facebook or Instagram.  To connect with AttractionPros, email us at [email protected].
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17/01/2023

Episode 280 - Arthur Levine talks about theme park journalism, turning your passion into a career and blending nostalgia with technology

Arthur Levine is a Theme Park Journalist at AboutThemeParks.fun, and has been covering the amusement industry for more than 30 years.  Arthur has regularly contributed to USA Today, About.com, FunWorld, and several other publications where he covers all aspects of theme and amusement parks.  His unique career has taken him all over the world, where he was able to attend the grand opening of Shanghai Disneyland, the 25th anniversary of Walt Disney World, and be among the first riders on Iron Gwazi at Busch Gardens Tampa and Mako at SeaWorld Orlando.  In this interview, Arthur talks about theme park journalism, turning your passion into your career, and blending nostalgia with technology.   Theme park journalism   "I have a responsibility to the parks and to the readers, and I take that very seriously."   The landscape of journalism has changed drastically over the past few decades, and the attractions industry has had to adapt in the way that stories are shared.  While many of the core fundamentals of reporting remain the same, the ability for readers to respond and engage in dialogue has created challenges in today’s landscape of social media - including clickbait, gratuitous negativity, and controversy for the sake of controversy.   In response to this, Arthur has launched his own Substack, AboutThemeParks.fun, that allows him to offer a subscription service that avoids many of the challenges listed above.  Both free and paid subscriptions are available, with bonus content made available to paid subscribers.   Turning your passion into your career   “If you can enjoy the work that you’re doing, that’s a great blessing.”   Arthur has been passionate about amusement parks for as long as he can remember.  As early as two years old, Arthur visited Revere Beach in Massachusetts with his mother and grandmother, and while everyone sat on the beach and looked at the ocean, Arthur faced the other way, enamored by the rides in operation at the park.   Since then, Arthur has covered the theme park industry extensively.  While there are many perks to his career, many people overlook the amount of hard work that go into producing quality content and meeting deadlines.   Blending nostalgia with technology   "There's a deep sense of nostalgia, but there's also a great sense of wonder to experience something new."   One of the reasons people visit amusement parks is to relive memories from their childhood and to share these experiences with their families as they create new traditions.  This creates an opportunity for parks - whether they are trolley parks that opened in 1800s or Disney theme parks - to preserve their heritage for years to come.  It also creates a challenge, considering much of today’s consumer demands greater use of technology.   However, much of the industry was founded on the premise of showcasing new technologies that allowed them to wow and awe their guests.  Therefore, when parks embrace new technology, it allows them to maintain their roots of providing cutting edge entertainment to guests. To subscribe to Arthur’s substack, visit AboutThemeParks.fun.  You can also follow Arthur on Twitter and Facebook.   To connect with AttractionPros, email us at [email protected].
52m
10/01/2023

Episode 279: 2023 Resolutionary Episode

As we head into 2023, AttractionPros is proud to present the sixth annual “resolutionary” episode, which sets the stage for the year to come.  In order to look forward, we look back on several guests interviewed in the past year and highlight many of the insights shared on the podcast by some of the industry’s top leaders.  As you set your goals for the year ahead, you  may find yourself looking for the best ways to achieve results, and this guidance may be found in past interviews of this podcast.  In this episode, Matt and Josh look to the advice from previous podcast guests as they share their goals for 2023. Staying on the edge Matt shared that he will strive toward continual and incremental improvement in 2023.  To achieve this, Matt referenced episode 240 where John Penney talked about the importance of staying on the edge.  Always looking at the latest practices for how results are achieved can help you make regular improvements that may otherwise have stayed flat.  Complacency leads to stagnation, and ultimately leads to decline; therefore, staying on the edge is critical to growth.   Everything is figure-out-able and learning from failure In 2022, Josh set out to learn to play piano, but felt that he hit a wall with his proficiency.  Looking to episode 252, Brad Collins taught us that everything is figure-out-able, which has motivated Josh to keep going and strive for improvement.  Part of progress, however, is failure, whether it is learning to play an instrument or running a business.  In episode 227, Craig Buster talked about the value of learning from failure that eventually leads to success.   Advocating for the next generation Matt seeks to increase his involvement with supporting professionals who are new to the industry, including young professionals and those early in their careers.  Similarly, Andrea Wiles spoke about advocating for children in episode 236, where shared the long-lasting impact that it has.  By advocating for the next generation of attractions industry professionals, Matt seeks to make an impact long after his time in the industry is up.   Thinking outside the lines and embracing crazy ideas In episode 70, Josh shared that his “big hairy audacious goal” (BHAG) was to write a book on guest experience.  Fast forward to today, and the book is expected to be published in 2023!  In order to achieve a successful book launch, Josh wants to channel his creative side, even if it may be non-traditional. To do this, Josh referenced episode 234 and episode 264, where Winston Fisher talked about thinking outside the lines and Sarah Clarke talked about thinking outside the box, respectively.  Additionally, Dr. Peter Ricci shared an amazing success story that was a result of embracing crazy ideas in episode 256.   Bringing up uncomfortable subjects Matt talked about how during one-on-one coaching sessions, oftentimes leaders may open up and share vulnerable feelings that they may not feel comfortable sharing in more public settings.  By doing so, they often lead to breakthroughs and are the catalyst for long-term improvement.  By looking to what Dr. Tonya Matthews shared in episode 237 about bringing up uncomfortable subjects, Matt wants to take this mindset and ensure that he can implement it most effectively, which, from a business standpoint, is much less scalable than large workshops and other one-to-many sessions.  In order to do this, Matt also looks to Winston Fisher’s guidance on thinking outside the lines from episode 234.   Embracing family and saying yes to opportunity Josh had a disruption to his plans for 2023, and as he and his family cope with changes, he is inspired by the messages that Brian Knoebel shared in episode 244 and Chuck Wray in episode 266 on putting family first.  Additionally, Djuan Rivers shared the benefits of saying yes to opportunities in episode 260.  This can include travel, engagement with the industry, and other opportunities that otherwise would not have been possible.   If you have been inspired by our guests to achieve your goals, we would love to hear about it. Please connect with us via Facebook, Linkedin, Twitter, Instagram, or send us an email.     We wish you a happy, healthy, and successful year ahead, and we look forward to bringing you many more amazing guests in 2023!
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