Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with someone who has experienced the growth and evolution of the credit space from different vantage points.We welcome Alona Gornick, a Managing Director, Senior Investment Strategist, and Co-Head of the Chicago Office for Churchill Asset Management, a firm with $50B committed capital that is a provider of financing solutions to middle market private equity firms and their portfolio companies. Churchill is an investment-specialist affiliate of Nuveen, the asset manager of TIAA.Alona provides investment insights across the private capital spectrum to the investment community – and has a particular focus on working with the Private Wealth and Retail channels. She works closely with Nuveen’s global distribution team to deepen relationships with and educate Churchill’s investors and partners.Alona leverages her experience in capital markets, investor relations, and credit investing from working at the likes of Nuveen, Golden Gate Capital, and Oaktree Capital Management.Alona and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:The evolution of credit investing.The opportunities and risks in private credit. Are we in a private credit bubble?Why the product specialist role is critical for working with the wealth channel.The power of scale, particularly in private credit, and how it helps alternative asset managers win deals and invest.The strategic benefit of platforms and permanent capital.Thanks Alona for coming on the show to share your views and wisdom on private markets. We hope you enjoy.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to Ultimus Fund Solutions01:18 Welcome to the Podcast02:00 Guest Introduction: Alona Gornick03:45 Alona's Career Path and Experience06:59 Growth of Middle Market Direct Lending07:41 Changes in the Credit Landscape10:21 The Importance of Size and Scale in Private Credit13:27 Deal Structuring and Market Evolution14:46 Impact of High Rate Environment16:06 Private Credit Returns and Underwriting20:53 Investor Questions and Market Insights21:24 Educating Investors on Private Credit23:43 Private Credit in Wealth Portfolios24:09 Diversification Benefits of Private Credit24:24 Yield Premium in Private Credit26:40 Private Credit vs. Private Equity27:06 Exploring Private Equity and Private Debt27:24 Transitioning from Public to Private Credit27:49 The Role of a Product Specialist28:09 Balancing Risks and Benefits28:49 Relating to Advisors with Real Examples29:40 The Importance of Education in Allocation30:25 Diverse Viewpoints on Alternative Asset Managers31:48 Challenges in Access to Capital33:26 The Significance of Hiring Quality People34:12 Non-Traditional Backgrounds in Specialist Roles36:29 Patience and Commitment in Educating Investors39:13 The Hardest Part of Educating the Wealth Channel40:47 The Role of Structure in Education44:21 Concerns About the Future of Private Credit47:00 The Growth Potential of Private Credit49:38 The Most Interesting Alternative Investment50:15 The Opportunity in Private Equity Secondaries52:47 Private Credit Secondaries: A Nascent Space54:17 Primary and Secondary Considerations in Credit54:34 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Today marks the launch of a new show on Alt Goes Mainstream: What’s Your Edge?Every person, every company, every fund has something that makes them special.Makes them stand out from the crowd.Gives them an unfair advantage.Tips the scales in favor of success.In this episode,  I ask our special guest, Bob Long, “What’s Your Edge?”Bob Long is CEO of StepStone Group’s Stepstone Private Wealth. He has three decades of experience in the private markets and has led investment teams for global firms in both the general partner and the limited partner role. He has served as the CEO of two publicly-traded companies focused on expanding private market access for high net worth investors.Prior to StepStone Private Wealth, Bob was the CEO of OHA Investment Corporation, a publicly-traded specialty finance company. Previously, he co-founded Conversus Capital, the largest publicly traded fund of third-party private equity funds with $3 billion of AUM and served as its CEO. Previously, he led Bank of America’s $7 billion strategic capital division. Early in his career, Bob served as the lead in-house counsel for a large portion of Bank of America’s Investment Banking Division and worked as a securities lawyer for a major law firm.A recognized industry leader, Bob was named one of 50 “GameChangers” by Private Equity International, has been profiled in the WSJ, and hosted CNBC Squawk Box Europe on numerous occasions.On today’s podcast, Bob and I discuss the nuances of evergreen funds and the unique features and offerings of StepStone Private Wealth’s evergreen strategies.Thanks Bob for coming on the show to share your wisdom, experience, and your edge.Show Notes00:00 Introduction00:38 Welcome to What's Your Edge?01:01 Meet StepStone Private Wealth CEO Bob Long: A Leader in Private Markets03:09 Lessons from Public Markets04:34 Evergreen Fund Structure05:27 Benefits of Evergreen Funds06:25 Immediate Investment Advantage07:20 Evergreen Funds and Financial Advisors07:35 Evergreen Fund Liquidity08:04 StepStone's Approach to Evergreen Funds09:09 StepStone's Strategy and Structure09:32 Balancing Inflows and Outflows10:34 Importance of Deal Flow11:04 Balancing Liquidity and Returns11:56 StepStone's Competitive Advantage13:52 Portfolio Construction14:57 Diversification in Private Markets16:06 Evergreen Fund Structures19:44 Liquidity in Private Markets27:57 Key Takeaways for Investors29:53 Operational Due Diligence Essentials30:13 Key Questions for Evergreen Fund Structures30:36 Understanding Fee Structures30:42 Management Fees and Leverage31:33 Incentive Fees Explained32:19 Administrative Costs and Transparency32:34 Fee Compression in Evergreen Funds34:11 Portfolio Construction Strategies34:24 Investing in Secondaries37:10 Psychology of Allocators38:04 Accessibility and Minimum Investments38:43 Investor Profiles and Strategies40:36 Transparency and Performance41:40 Rebalancing and Evergreen Funds43:10 Model Portfolios and Private Markets45:19 StepStone's Investor-Centric Approach46:15 StepStone's Competitive Edge48:31 Growth of Secondaries and Private Markets51:37 Future Trends in Private Markets55:30 Philanthropy and Purposeful Stewardship

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s show features a guest who brings a wealth of common sense to wealth management and asset allocation.We talk with Ben Carlson, the Director of Institutional Asset Management at Ritholtz Wealth Management, a $5B AUM wealth management firm. He’s managed institutional portfolios for his entire career. He started out with an institutional investment consulting firm, where he deployed portfolio strategies and created investment plans for foundations, endowments, pensions, hospitals, insurance companies, and HNW individuals. More recently, he was part of the portfolio management team for an investment office that managed a large endowment fund for a charitable organization.Ben is a student of markets and asset allocation, which is clear from the knowledge he shares daily and weekly with his blog, A Wealth of Common Sense, and his podcast Animal Spirits with Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson. He’s also authored four books about saving, investing, and money. He was named to the Investment News 40 Under 40 list of top financial advisors in 2017.Ben and I had a fascinating conversation about the adoption of alternatives in the wealth channel and the whys and hows of asset allocation. We discussed:Why asset allocation is the most important aspect of an investment plan.The question of whether or not investors now have too much choice?Why Ben documents every investment decision he makes.The benefits of private markets and the pitfalls of private markets.His biggest lesson learned in investing.Why crypto has helped younger investors become more comfortable with volatility (for better or worse).The future of wealth management and what won’t change about the advisor / client relationship.The power of content creation and how it helps him approach investing.Thanks Ben for coming on the show to share your wisdom and experience in investing and asset allocation. We hope you enjoy.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Sponsor: Introduction to Ultimus Fund Solutions01:56 Meet Ben Carlson: Wealth Management Expert02:17 Ben Carlson's Career Journey02:55 Insights on Asset Allocation03:11 The Importance of Documenting Investment Decisions03:14 Private Markets: Benefits and Pitfalls04:34 Early Career Lessons04:58 Asset Allocation Strategies06:06 Navigating Investment Choices07:10 The Complexity of Investment Strategies09:46 Institutional vs. Wealth Management10:19 Communication in Institutional Investing12:35 The 60/40 Portfolio Debate23:20 Advisors and Alternatives27:17 Thresholds for Investing27:48 Differentiating Through Culture28:41 Defining and Evaluating Culture29:20 Transparency and Client Relationships29:57 Partnering with the Right Clients30:19 Qualitative Manager Selection31:53 Content Creation and Transparency34:22 Building a Brand from Scratch37:49 Advice for Young Advisors39:31 Compounding in Private Markets40:06 Behavioral Benefits of Private Markets41:17 Excitement in Private Markets41:56 Evolving Fund Structures42:28 Defining Alternatives43:48 Younger Investors and Volatility46:55 Future of Wealth Management47:53 Private Equity in Wealth Management48:58 Favorite Alternative Investments51:44 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s podcast illustrates just how far private markets have come. We dive into the world of GP stakes with Sean Ward, Senior Managing Director from Blue Owl’s GP Strategic Capital Platform, where he was a founding partner and is responsible for helping to oversee the firm that has done the lion’s share of GP stakes investing.Blue Owl’s GP Strategic Capital business, which started out as Dyal Capital Partners, has accounted for over 61% of the total capital raised in the GP stakes space, closing on over $33.3B across their 7 funds and managing $57.8B AUM. They’ve taken minority ownership stakes in many of the industry’s leading alternative asset managers, accounting for 85%+ of all GP stakes deals $600M or greater in size.Sean is a Senior Managing Director of Blue Owl Capital, Inc. and a member of the firm’s Board of Directors. He also serves as a member of the GP Strategic Capital Investment Team. Prior to joining Dyal Capital Partners, the predecessor firm to Blue Owl’s GP Strategic Capital platform, Sean was a Vice President at Lehman Brothers and held several roles at Neuberger Berman after it became an independent firm, including Senior Counsel for Neuberger’s alternatives business. Sean was also a lawyer at Covington & Burling LLP and Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP.Sean and I had a fascinating conversation about the evolution of private markets through the parallel evolution of the GP stakes space.  We discussed:The early days of the GP stakes industry.What it was like to convince GPs and LPs why stakes made sense.How the $1B GP commitment by Bain Capital in their fund post-GFC really opened everyone’s eyes to the need to tap into financing as firms grew their fund size and their business.A “cash in” rather than a “cash out.” Why GP stakes investing is mainly about positive selection since managers are choosing to sell a stake in their business.How alternative asset management has evolved as a business.How GP stakes investments have elements of bond-like coupons from cashflows due to management fees and option value from the upside of carry.Why GP stakes investments are “the most diversified single line item investment one can make in private markets.”Where allocators bucket GP stakes investments.What makes a great GP stakes investor.The power of permanent capital.The different paths to liquidity in GP stakes investments.Thanks Sean for coming on the show to share your views and wisdom on private markets. We hope you enjoy.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message01:17 Podcast Opening and Theme02:00 Guest Introduction: Sean Ward from Blue Owl GP Strategic Capital04:21 Sean Ward's Career Journey05:14 The Evolution of GP Stakes Investing06:23 The Start of GP Stakes at Blue Owl06:57 Raising the First Fund07:09 The Growth of Blue Owl's GP Stakes07:31 The Importance of Legal Background in GP Stakes09:48 Convincing LPs and GPs11:14 The Importance of GP Commitments15:23 Strategic Value Beyond Capital24:45 Succession Planning in Private Equity26:02 Impact of Market Conditions on GP Stakes29:26 Underwriting and Returns in GP Stakes36:33 Cash Flow and Diversification in GP Stakes Investments37:48 Understanding the Trade-offs in GP Stakes Investing38:35 Narrow Distribution of Potential Outcomes40:09 The Importance of Diverse Professional Backgrounds40:45 Collaborative Partnerships in GP Stakes41:34 Traits of a Great Alternative Asset Manager43:49 The Next Frontier: Private Wealth45:13 Middle Market Strategy and Partnerships49:34 The Evolution and Future of Private Markets53:19 Liquidity in GP Stakes Investments58:26 The Power of Permanent Capital01:00:28 Is GP Stakes Better Than SaaS?01:02:43 Exemplary Models for Growth in Asset Management01:05:47 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode welcomes two elite performers in Steve Young of HGGC and Scott Wood of True North Advisors, where they talk about how they formed a partnership based on shared values.Steve’s private equity firm, $7B AUM HGGC, took a minority stake in Scott’s independent wealth management firm, $3.9B AUM True North Advisors, as part of their broader wealth management investment thesis.After an illustrious 15 year Hall of Fame career as a three-time Super Bowl winning quarterback of the San Francisco 49ers, Steve embarked on second act to found HGGC that has rivaled his career on the field. Over the past 17 years, HGGC has grown to a $7B private equity firm that has completed 600 portfolio investments.After working on Wall Street where clients were not being fiduciarily served, Scott's journey as a registered independent advisor started in 2000, when he and his partner Mark Gehlbach decided to pioneer the fee-only  model to eliminate conflicts of interest in the client advisor relationship. The foundation they built has led to the growth of a firm that now stands at over 3.9B in AUM, with a large portion of that capital, $812M allocated to alternatives. Steve, Scott, and I had a fascinating conversation about how they’ve built their respective investment firms, the importance of values and culture, and how they create abundant, fulfilling relationships. We discussed:Why “the score takes care of itself.”How and why defining the relationship up front is key in advisor M&A.How to assess culture fit when merging or acquiring advisors and wealth management firms.The importance of alternatives for better serving the client in an advisor’s practice.The concept of “decading” and why long-term thinking is critical in business and life.Thanks Steve and Scott for sharing your thoughts and decades of wisdom on business building, investing, and partnership.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message01:17 Welcome to the Podcast01:59 Meet the Guests: Steve Young and Scott Wood02:22 Steve Young's Journey from the NFL to Private Equity06:13 Scott Wood's Path to Founding True North Advisors09:13 Building a Scalable and Collaborative Wealth Management Firm12:22 Need for a Partner12:57 Choosing HGGC: The Importance of Culture and Values in Business13:30 HGGC's Investment Philosophy15:03 Cultural Alignment in Partnerships22:25 Evaluating Cultural Fit in Partnerships22:40 Evaluating Cultural Fit27:12 Governance and Day Two Operations27:53 Commitment to Cultural Integrity28:19 Navigating Cultural Fit in Wealth Management28:55 Wealth Management Growth and Consolidation29:40 The Role of Private Equity in Wealth Management30:03 Changing Wealth Management Engagement31:07 Challenges and Opportunities in Wealth Management Consolidation32:22 True North's Unique Business Model33:01 The Impact of Private Equity on Wealth Management34:42 Exit Strategies and Long-Term Vision39:39 Building an Alternatives Platform40:31 Decading: Long-Term Thinking40:53 Evolution of Alternatives Strategy45:13 Simplifying Complex Investments46:37 Fee Structures and Client Alignment47:24 M&A Opportunities and Relationships48:37 Mentorship and Professional Relationships52:56 Future of Alternative Investments55:56 Closing Thoughts and Reflections

Today marks the launch of a new show on Alt Goes Mainstream: Going Public with Evercore’s Glenn Schorr.17 years ago, there wasn’t a single alternative asset manager that was part of the public markets. Today, not only are a number of the industry’s largest firms public, but in 2024, the industry’s largest alternative asset manager, Blackstone, entered the S&P 500.Understanding the inner workings, strategic moves, and financial performance of the industry’s largest players can help to explain many of the trends that are making alternatives become mainstream and these firms become mainstays in the financial services ecosystem.Going Public will make private markets more public with expert analysis.Glenn Schorr is a Senior MD and Senior Research Analyst at Evercore ISI, where he covers brokers, banks, asset managers, and trust banks as an analyst. He has covered financials since 2000 and started coverage of alternative asset managers when the first firms went public.He’s consistently come up as one of the most thoughtful and well-respected analysts in the space. He balances deep research with a creative flair (just read one of the titles of his research reports and you can see his love of the game). He’s been named to Institutional Investor’s All-America Research Team for his coverage, most recently ranking #2 and runner up in 2023, #1 and #2 in 2022. Prior to Evercore, Glenn was a Senior MD at Nomura, serving as the lead financials analyst. Listen in as Glenn shares market stories, the evolution of alternative asset managers as businesses, the biggest and most exciting trends in private markets based on what the industry’s largest players are doing, and we go “around the horn” for his analysis on the publicly traded firms. Show Notes00:38 Introduction to the Going Public Series and award-winning Wall Street Analyst, Glenn Schorr01:54 Glenn's Career Journey03:08 The Early Days of Alts Managers Going Public03:26 Skepticism and Challenges in Going Public04:06 Investor Skepticism and Challenges07:00 Transformation and Tipping Points09:03 Structural Tailwinds and Market Trends10:57 The Decision to Go Public vs. Staying Private12:39 Ambition and Vision in Asset Management14:51 The Distribution vs. Manufacturing Debate17:03 Lessons from Traditional Asset Management18:55 Discipline and Growth in the Alts Market20:03 The Future of Public and Private Markets20:50 The Role of Distribution in Asset Management21:59 Success Stories and Acquisition Strategies23:02 Manufacturing Competency vs. Acquisitions24:40 The Rise of Private Markets26:07 How Alternative Managers Make Money27:02 Valuation Factors for Alternative Managers28:44 Profitability and Margins in Asset Management29:23 Building a Business: Costs and Competitive Advantages29:50 The Moat of Success in Business30:15 Challenges for Traditional Asset Managers30:56 The Importance of Vision and Technology31:22 Scaling a Business with Proven Success31:40 Insurance Asset Management: Strategic Moves and Structural Advantages32:17 Structural Advantages in Asset Management33:05 The Rise of Private Credit Managers34:43 The Impact of Interest Rates on Private Credit Managers35:32 Navigating Rate Sensitivity in Capital Markets38:25 Deployment and Monetization in Asset Management39:08 The Challenge of Dry Powder in Private Equity41:14 The Role of Deployment in Investment Success41:46 The Resilience of Publicly Traded Alts Managers43:26 Spotlight on Blackstone's Growth and Innovation46:38 KKR's Global Expansion and Innovation48:41 Apollo's Market Leadership and Challenges50:11 Blue Owl's Strategic Investments and Challenges53:56 TPG's Public Transition and Growth55:11 Carlyle’s Progress and Future Challenges56:11 Looking Ahead: Key Trends and ExpectationsDisclosuresEvercore ISIGlenn SchorrCompany Coverage and DisclosuresTicker      CompanyAPO         Apollo Global Management, Inc.BAC         Bank of America CorporationGlenn Schorr holds a long position in equity securities of Bank of America Corporation.BK            Bank of New York Mellon Corp.Glenn Schorr holds a long position in equity securities of Bank of New York Mellon Corp.BLK          BlackRock, Inc.Glenn Schorr holds a long position in equity securities of BlackRock Inc.BX            Blackstone, Inc.Blackstone, Inc. is a client of Evercore LLC, and Evercore LLC has provided investment banking services to Blackstone, Inc. in the last 12 months.Evercore ISI or an affiliate expects to receive or intends to seek compensation for investment banking services from Blackstone, Inc. within the next three months.An employee, employee's immediate family member, director or consultant of Evercore ISI or one of its affiliates (but not the covering research analyst or a member of the covering re advisory board member of Blackstone, Inc..Evercore ISI or an affiliate has received compensation from Blackstone, Inc. for investment banking services in the last 12 months.Analyst has a financial interest in a private equity fund managed by Blackstone, Inc.Glenn Schorr holds a long position in equity securities of Blackstone, Inc.OWL         Blue Owl Capital, Inc.Evercore ISI or an affiliate has acted as a manager or co-manager of a public offering of securities by Blue Owl Capital, Inc in the last 12 months.Blue Owl Capital, Inc is a client of Evercore LLC, and Evercore LLC has provided investment banking services to Blue Owl Capital, Inc in the last 12 months.Evercore ISI or an affiliate has received compensation from Blue Owl Capital, Inc for investment banking services in the last 12 months.BSIG        BrightSphere InvestmentC               Citigroup, Inc.An employee, employee's immediate family member, director or consultant of Evercore ISI or one of its affiliates (but not the covering research analyst or a member of the covering re advisory board member of Citigroup, Inc.Glenn Schorr holds a long position in equity securities of Citigroup, Inc.BEN          Franklin Resources, Inc.Glenn Schorr holds a long position in equity securities of Franklin Resources, Inc.GS            Goldman Sachs Group Inc.IVZ           Invesco Ltd.JPM        &nb...

Welcome to the 12th episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream.This month’s episode features one of iCapital’s senior executives, Eileen Duff, Managing Partner & Chief Client Success Officer, and a private markets veteran who was Head of Alternative Investments, North America for Credit Suisse for a number of years. At iCapital, she oversees Investor Relations, Enterprise Integration, and Client Operations teams to optimize the client experience. Eileen has had a number of senior and instrumental roles at iCapital. She's also a member of iCapital's Operating Committee. She was previously Head of Fund Management & Research for iCapital, where she was responsible for origination and development of new investment products and lifecycle management of existing offerings. She also led Distribution for iCapital, leading the sales and relationship management function after joining from Credit Suisse.iCapital, as the leading platform that is responsible for the majority of individual and advisor-led investment flows into the alts space, has its finger on the pulse of what’s happening in private markets.Eileen and I had a fascinating and lively discussion about how technology innovation, and AI and automation in particular, are revolutionizing alternative investments and how technology can drive growth and operational efficiency. We covered:How and why alternatives distribution has evolved. The importance of meeting clients where they are.The evolution of wealth channel strategies.How much does structure matter?When and why Eileen saw registered funds as a major driver of the future growth of private markets well before they became mainstream.The impact of registered and evergreen funds on operations and fund administration.Where will the biggest efficiencies come from in the automation of post-investment processes?How AI and automation will enhance operational efficiency?Thanks Eileen for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s Monthly Alts Pulse conversation!

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s podcast dives into the continued innovation in the GP stakes space with someone who has advised some of the industry’s largest firms on their businesses and going public.We are joined by Todd Owens, the Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Cantilever Group. Cantilever is an independent firm focused on providing capital solutions to middle market asset managers. Their capital can be used to accelerate growth, support acquisitions or liftouts, fund GP commitments, seed new strategies, facilitate generational ownership transfer, and provide liquidity to founders. They focus on businesses that have enterprise values between $50mm and $500mm. The team has executed on over $500M of GP stake, financing, and seeding transactions as both investors and principals. Their advisory experience working with stakes funds includes over 15 GP stakes transactions, multiple GP stakes portfolio financings, numerous GP and BDC IPOs, and dozens of asset management financing and control transactions.Cantilever is working with two strategic partners as they build their firm: BTG Pactual, the near $30B market cap Brazilian bank and wealth and asset manager has committed 9 figures into Cantilever’s fund, and Broadhaven Ventures, the venture capital arm of Broadhaven Capital Partners.Todd has over 30 years of experience as an advisor covering financial institutions and as a senior financial services executive. Prior to founding Cantilever, Todd has been a partner at Broadhaven Capital Partners, an independent financial services focused investment bank that’s completed over $90B in announced M&A transaction volume, as well as the former CEO of Fifth Street Finance. Todd began his career at Goldman, Sachs & Co, spending 24 years including as a Managing Director and Partner in the Investment Banking Division. Todd and I had a fascinating discussion about how funds are becoming firms and why there’s an investment opportunity around that transformation. We discussed:The evolution of alternative asset managers from Todd’s perspective as a banker to many alternative asset managers.Why GP stakes has become a solution for alternative asset managers.Why and how alternative asset managers are businesses and why it can make sense for them to take investment to grow.The benefits of GP stakes for investors and why the growing AUM of private markets means investors could benefit from exposure to GP ownership.The risks and challenges with GP stakes as an investment strategy.Why the middle market is an underserved and attractive segment in alternative asset management.What the currency of consolidation will look like in alternative asset management.What it means to grow and evolve a business as an alternative asset manager.Thanks Todd for coming on the show to share your wisdom and experience on the evolution of asset management from your 30 years in the industry. We hope you enjoy.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message01:18 Podcast Opening and Theme01:59 Introduction to Todd Owens and Cantilever Group03:10 Todd Owens' Career Background04:39 Early Days of Alternative Asset Management08:28 Challenges and Opportunities in Alternative Asset Management10:00 Cantilever's Focus on the Middle Market11:35 Investment Opportunities in the Middle Market13:50 Identifying and Investing in Promising Managers16:24 Insights from Working with Founders18:42 Sizing Up the Middle Market Opportunity19:49 Sourcing and Structuring Investments21:16 Offering Diverse Financial Solutions23:15 Evaluating and Picking the Right Managers25:54 Identifying Investment Opportunities26:16 Winning Deals: Strategies and Insights26:51 Providing Strategic Capital and Advisory27:58 Focusing on Growth and Diversification29:18 Underwriting and Growth Expectations31:15 Exit Strategies and Market Dynamics33:13 Diversification and Portfolio Construction34:29 Revenue Streams and Valuation35:54 Cantilever's Market Edge37:33 Strategic Partnerships and Support39:01 Founders' Perspective and Industry Insights41:01 Cantilever's Unique Value Proposition42:40 Leadership and Influences43:34 Concerns and Challenges46:05 Reflections and Future Outlook

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is a special show with Ben Harrison, the Co-Founder of DealCloud, which is now part of Intapp, where he is President, Industries.Ben is a former banker and private equity professional at Falfurrias Capital Partners who went on to co-found DealCloud to make the process of managing deals and relationships for alternative asset managers and related industry service providers more streamlined and seamless.Ben and team have done just that at Intapp DealCloud. They’ve built a unified deal and relationship management software business that is more than just a CRM. They’ve integrated a CRM function with business development, marketing, pipeline, deal management, fundraising, and investor relations features into a single platforms to enable firms in private markets to better run their day to day processes. They have a roster of over 2,500 customers, which includes many of the industry’s leading alternative asset managers.Ben and I had a fascinating conversation about the evolution of enterprise software that serves private markets and why it’s such a large and growing opportunity, which was shared through the lens of an experienced and successful operator in this space who has grown his business to hundreds of millions in ARR that both alternative asset managers and founders and operators in private markets software will find interesting.We discussed:Why scale matters in enterprise software just like it does in alternative asset management.The strategic question of building a comprehensive end-to-end software solution versus building a point solution.What are alternative asset managers looking for when building or buying software solutions for their business?How are alternative asset managers thinking about data and tech differently?Why and how the TAM for software solutions for private markets is growing in lockstep with AUM industry growth.How data helps investors make better decisions.Where AI can help automate processes for alternative asset managers.Is AI over- or under-hyped?Thanks Ben for sharing your thoughts and wisdom of building an industry-leading software company for private markets and for Intapp and DealCloud’s partnership with Alt Goes Mainstream. We hope you enjoy.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Background03:54 Building Industry-Specific Software Solutions08:02 Strategic Approach: Point Solutions vs. End-to-End Solutions13:11 Evolution of Alternative Asset Management and its Impact on Software Solutions16:24 Benefits of Technology for Large and Small Firms19:11 Building Software for Large Managers vs. Small Managers23:10 Technology's Impact on Firms' Efficiency and Productivity25:49 The Role of Technology in Professional Development28:24 Key Features and Benefits of DealCloud's Software Platform32:00 The Future of Technology in the Alternative Asset Management Industry35:49 Unlocking the Potential of Technology38:46 The Shift Towards a User-Friendly and Automated User Experience45:18 The Importance of Data-Driven Decision-Making52:21 Growth Opportunities in the Private Markets Industry01:04:16 The Role of AI in Enhancing Software Capabilities

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Recently, AGM partnered with Pangea to bring together a group of executives in private markets and wealth management in London for a live AGM podcast featuring Cheri Belski of T. Rowe Price, one of the largest asset managers in the world with over $1.59T AUM. Cheri is the Global Head of Product at T. Rowe Price, where she's responsible for setting the vision for T. Rowe Price's product development and their strategy in private markets. Cheri also chairs the Product Strategy Committee and is a member of the Investment Management Steering Committee. She is also a vice president of T. Rowe Price Group, Inc., T. Rowe Price Investment Services, Inc., and T. Rowe Price Associates, Inc. Cheri has been with T. Rowe Price since 1997.Cheri and I had a wide-ranging conversation on private markets. We discussed:Why did T. Rowe Price look to add alternatives offerings?How traditional asset managers have approached adding private markets capabilities.Why T. Rowe Price acquired Oak Hill Advisors.Build, buy, or partner to add alternatives?Who will win the distribution battle in the wealth channel — traditional asset managers or alternative asset managers?Opportunities and challenges with product construction and innovation for the wealth channel.What the future holds for private markets.Please enjoy this fascinating conversation with Cheri. Thanks Cheri for sharing your wisdom and experience. We hope you enjoy.Show Notes00:00 Introduction: Going Mainstream00:40 Welcome to Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast00:43 Live Podcast in London with Cheri Belski00:54 Cheri Belski's Role at T. Rowe Price01:19 Discussion on Private Markets and Traditional Asset Managers01:37 Podcast Begins: Marylanders in London01:59 Host Introduction: Michael Sidgmore02:31 T. Rowe Price's Venture into Alternatives04:35 Why T. Rowe Price is Entering Alts05:46 Building, Buying, or Partnering in Alts07:09 Acquisition of Oak Hill Advisors07:13 Integration Challenges and Successes12:06 Brand Strategy in Alternatives14:36 Distribution Strategies for Alts16:20 Traditional vs. Alternative Asset Managers19:36 Challenges and Opportunities in Private Markets19:41 Advisor Relationships and Education22:29 Product Construction and Client Needs24:36 Challenges in Private Markets25:44 Future of Alternative Investments26:20 Conclusion and Farewell

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with Alex Chaloff, the CIO of a large and sophisticated private wealth management firm that is very active in private markets.Alex is Chief Investment Officer of Bernstein’s $125B+ private wealth management unit within $725B AUM AllianceBernstein. He was previously the Head of Alternative Asset Strategies. Prior to joining Bernstein in 2005, he was a MD for Wilshire Associates, serving on the firm’s investment committee. Prior to that, he worked in fund accounting operations at a global custodian in Boston.Alex and I had a fascinating conversation about: How to approach private markets asset allocation.Why he’s doing the job that he always wanted to do.How to think about portfolio construction.The importance of patience.The questions about liquidity.Why structure matters.Thanks Alex for coming on the show to share your wisdom and views.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency. To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products. Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message01:18 Podcast Theme Song01:35 Welcome to the Podcast01:59 Introducing Alex Chaloff03:01 Alex Chaloff's Career Jurney03:49 Transition to Bernstein04:16 Current Role and Responsibilities05:26 Investment Strategy and Market Insights06:58 Active vs Passive Investment11:35 Middle Market Focus14:26 Evaluating Fund Managers18:28 Lessons Learned in Fund Management20:51 Allocating to Private Markets22:38 Liquidity and Risk Management27:01 Current Market Opportunities31:01 The Perception of Infrequent Reporting31:38 Private Wealth and Market Fluctuations32:21 Understanding Liquidity Concerns32:54 The Future of Private Market Investments33:38 Challenges in Public Market Benchmarks34:45 GP and LP Dynamics in Private Markets36:58 Product Innovation in Private Markets38:30 Evergreen Structures and Asset Allocation39:20 Vintage Diversification Strategy42:07 Lessons from the Current Market Cycle42:30 Next Generation Investors and Impact Investing46:13 Double Bottom Line Investing48:24 Concerns in Private Debt Markets51:33 Opportunities in Venture Capital54:36 Favorite Alternative Investments and Future Trends

I went into The Compound and came out alive.Recently, I joined Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson of Ritholtz Wealth Management on their Animal Spirits podcast by The Compound. It is a fantastic show that produces frank and thoughtful conversations on markets and the wealth management world. They invited me on their show to discuss why alts are going mainstream.We had a great conversation on the animal spirits of alts and we unpacked the opportunities and challenges ahead for private markets, wealth managers, and the alternative asset managers looking to work with the wealth channel.We covered:Why I don’t like the term “downstreaming of alts.”The size and scale of the opportunity with the wealth channel.Why and how it can make sense for the wealth channel to allocate to alts.The changing nature of asset allocation from slices of a pie to buckets and spectrums.The concept of liquidity.The attractiveness of evergreen funds for both GPs and LPs.Are private markets in a bubble?Why GP stakes are a compelling investment opportunity given structural trends in private markets.Can private markets be indexed (and should they be)?Thanks Michael and Ben for having me on the show. Really enjoyed the conversation and it was a pleasure to join you.Michael and Ben are fantastic and thoughtful asset allocators and commentators in investing and wealth management. If you don’t already listen to their podcast or read their commentary on markets, you can check out their blogs below:Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor.Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.On today’s episode, we are joined by Mercer Investments’ US Financial Intermediaries Leader Gregg Sommer and CAIS’ MD and Head of Investments Neil Blundell.Gregg and Neil bring deep experience and backgrounds in private markets to discuss how alternatives can be further adopted by the wealth channel.Gregg is Mercer’s US Financial Intermediaries Leader, serving US wealth management and family office clients. He is a member of Mercer’s Wealth Leadership Team, Wealth Management Strategic Research and Investment Committees, and the Investment Policy Committee. He joined Mercer’s Investments business in 2009 and is based in Denver. Gregg began his career at U.S. Trust and over the last 35 years has held several executive positions in the investment industry. He has a comprehensive investment, business, and risk management background and has managed many successful investment teams focused on risk assessment, asset allocation, due diligence, portfolio management, organizational evaluation, and financial analysis across both private and public investment strategies. Gregg served as Chief Financial and Operating Officer of a firm that managed real estate and private equity and debt portfolios and has been a Principal and Portfolio Risk Officer for RCM, a Commodity Trading Advisor. Additionally, he was a founding Partner at Global Trading Partners, a trading firm focused on global market relationships.Neil brings over 20 years of experience in private markets to CAIS. He recently worked at Invesco as the Global Head of Client Solutions and Alternatives for the Investment Solutions team. He was responsible for developing and managing over $90B in customized multi-asset investment strategies spanning both traditional and alternative solutions and was a member of the team’s executive committee, investment committee, and chair of the alternative investment committee. Prior to Invesco, Neil was at BlackRock for 10+ years, where he was most recently Managing Director and Alternatives Platform Head within the Institutional Client Business.Gregg, Neil, and I had a fascinating discussion about how the wealth channel can approach alternatives and how they can think about both diligence and customization. We covered:The case for alternatives.How advisors currently approach alternatives and how they can think about it differently going forward.How to think about portfolio construction that includes alternatives.How alts can help advisors differentiate their practice and attract clients.Following the fast river in a career and why alternatives are “the fast river.”The meaning of “structure over strategy.”The rise in popularity of evergreen funds.Thanks Gregg and Neil for coming on the show to share your views and experience in private markets. We hope you enjoy.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency. To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products. Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions01:17 Podcast Opening and Guest Introduction01:58 Guest Backgrounds and Career Highlights03:43 Discussion on Wealth Channel and Alternatives03:51 The Case for Alternatives07:47 The Evolution of Private Debt08:23 The Moment It Clicked for Alts12:08 Institutional vs. Wealth Channel Approaches13:54 Educating the Wealth Channel15:47 Evergreen Funds and Wealth Channel19:29 Generational Wealth Transfer20:04 Current Market Trends and Private Markets25:29 Importance of Due Diligence in Alternatives26:33 Advisor Allocation Trends26:53 Expected Allocations in the Next Year27:07 Private Equity and Credit Insights27:17 Real Estate and Hedge Funds Outlook27:27 Emerging Infrastructure Strategies27:47 CAIS Platform Overview28:17 Transactional Volume Trends28:36 Registered Funds Growth29:30 Institutional vs. Wealth Channel Behavior30:25 Customization in Private Markets31:22 Technology's Role in Wealth Management35:52 The Importance of Brand in Investments39:26 Strategic Partnerships in Wealth Management39:56 Concerns About Private Markets Growth43:36 Evaluating Manager's Edge45:54 Future of Alternative InvestmentsDisclosureThis content is for institutional investors and for information purposes only. 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Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode features a guest who has consistently and astutely figured out the growth areas in private markets.We are joined by Manulife’s new Global Head of Private Markets Anne Valentine Andrews. She’s responsible for the strategy, business development, and growth of Manulife Investment Management’s private markets business. Manulife has a platform that spans real estate, infrastructure, timber, agriculture, private equity, and credit.Anne has a comprehensive and informed purview of both private markets trends and of the different asset classes. She brings together the CIOs from each asset class in the Manulife business and works with the global product group to drive private markets product innovation across the institutional, retail, and retirement channels.Anne has a wealth of experience in private markets and in infrastructure in particular. She joined Manulife from BlackRock, where she was most recently Global Head of Infrastructure and Real Estate. Previously, she was Co-Head and Chief Operating Officer for the Morgan Stanley infrastructure platform and was a Director at Macquarie Bank.Anne and I had a fascinating conversation about the evolution of private markets and how to build out a private markets investment platform and its brand. We discussed:How to approach building a private markets investment platform at an industry behemoth.Why culture matters at an investment firm.The continued consolidation of alternative asset managers.What it means to connect real assets with real money.How to build a brand and educate investors.How to bring private markets investment opportunities into retirement accounts.The opportunity in infrastructure investing.Thanks Anne for coming on the show to share your experience and wisdom on private markets. We hope you enjoy.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency. To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products. Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message from Ultimus Fund Solutions01:18 Podcast Opening and Guest Introduction03:39 Anne Valentine Andrews' Career Journey04:42 Evolution of the Infrastructure Investments05:41 Infrastructure’s Resilience and Growth06:27 Building a Private Markets Platform14:28 Challenges and Strategies in Making Acquisitions17:12 Evaluating Culture and Integration in Asset Management18:47 Building a Comprehensive Platform20:20 Educating Investors and Expanding Access23:29 Future of Alternatives in Retirement Accounts26:43 Platformization of Alternatives28:01 Building and Marketing a Trustworthy Brand in Financial Services29:30 Learning from Other Industries: Amazon's Influence31:15 The Evolution of Asset Management31:57 Adapting to Market Changes and Mega Trends33:34 The Importance of Long-Term Investment Strategies34:33 Decarbonization and Natural Capital35:32 The Importance of Long-Term Thinking40:02 Connecting Real Assets to Real Money45:42 Risks and Opportunities in Infrastructure Investment48:03 The Role of Scale in Private Markets in Infrastructure49:21 Future of Alternative InvestmentsThe views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers, are subject to change as market and other conditions warrant, and do not constitute investment advice or a recommendation regarding any specific product or security. 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Welcome to the 11th episode of a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream. We changed up this month’s episode, welcoming iCapital Co-Founder and Managing Partner, Head of Investment Solutions Dan Vene to the show to discuss the evolution of private markets and the launch of iCapital’s Marketplace. iCapital, as the leading platform that is responsible for the majority of individual and advisor-led investment flows into the alts space, has its finger on the pulse of what’s happening in private markets.Dan and I had a fascinating and lively discussion about the evolution of the industry through the lens of iCapital’s growth and maturation, which has most recently included the creation of iCapital Marketplace. We discussed:Can alternative investments help you sleep at night?Public markets vs. private markets?What are the benefits of private markets?Are there evolving perspectives on liquidity?What potential market catalysts could further shift investments from public to private investments?How and why have fund managers had success on Marketplace?What’s the new world order for investing?Thanks Dan for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s Monthly Alts Pulse conversation!

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is one of evergreen importance. We talk with one of the pioneers in the evergreen fund space.Rob Collins, a Partner, Co-Head of Private Wealth, and Head of the New York office and a member of the Global Executive Board at Partners Group, a $147B+ AUM alternative asset manager, joins the podcast to discuss how Partners Group started the evergreen fund space in the early 2000s.Rob has deeply evolved perspectives on both evergreen funds and working with the wealth channel. He leads Partners Group’s US private wealth and defined contribution practice and is President, Portfolio Manager, and Member of the Board of Managers of Partners Group Private Equity (Master Fund), LLC. He also chairs Partners Group USA’s Investment Committee. He joined the firm in 2005, only 4 years after Partners Group was the first firm to launch an evergreen private equity structure.Rob and I had a fascinating conversation about what evergreen funds are, the mechanics of how they work, and why they can make sense for investors – both individual and institutions. We discussed:What Partners Group saw in the early 2000s that made them decide to create the evergreen private equity fund structure.Why it’s taken the industry time to adopt evergreen funds.How to think about returns with evergreen funds.Why institutions — in addition to wealth advisors — have used evergreen funds.Why the time, money, and liability questions of private equity fund investments make evergreens a fit for many advisors.The importance of compounding and how it relates to evergreen funds.The challenges and nuances with managing evergreen funds.Why “life is too short for capital calls.”How does private equity go from being sold to being bought?What can the industry  do to continue to remove pain points for the wealth channel?Thanks Rob for coming on the show to share your thoughts and wisdom on private markets and the importance of one of the biggest trends in private markets, evergreen funds. We hope you enjoy.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to Ultimus Fund Solutions01:18 Podcast Opening and Theme Song01:52 Welcome to Alt Goes Mainstream01:59 Introducing Rob Collins and Evergreen Funds02:24 Rob Collins' Background and Role at Partners Group04:18 Growth and Innovation at Partners Group05:46 Evergreen Solutions for Clients07:02 The Importance of Flexibility in Evergreen Funds09:56 Evergreen Funds vs. Traditional Structures11:38 The Rise of Evergreen Funds29:48 Challenges and Risks of Evergreen Structures30:01 Balancing Growth and Performance in Evergreen Funds34:57 Challenges for General Partners35:40 Expanding with New Products36:23 Trends in Private Markets36:56 Evergreen Funds and Private Companies37:27 Life is Too Short for Capital Calls38:52 Shift from Public to Private Markets40:24 Liquidity in Evergreen Funds41:50 Building a Resilient Diversified Portfolio43:05 Managing Investor Expectations44:26 Control in Portfolio Construction46:48 Positioning Evergreen Funds52:13 Evergreen vs. Closed-End Funds54:43 Innovating Asset Allocation Frameworks57:12 Educating Distribution Professionals01:00:26 Consultative Sales Approach for Evergreen Sales Professionals01:02:03 Future Growth in Private Markets01:03:47 Rob’s Favorite Alternative Investment01:04:42 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsA word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency. To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products. Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.I've been having many conversations with GPs and LPs over the past few months — and it feels like we've reached a point in private markets where both sides are trying to figure out how to navigate this space, from a product perspective and a technology perspective. To better understand these issues, I asked Lawrence Calcano, Chairman & CEO of iCapital, the largest platform in the space and a business that is in the middle of much of the flows of activity between GPs and LPs, to come back on the show to dive deeper into these topics.The main topic of conversation? The evolution of the different service models that enable GPs to unlock access to private markets for more LPs.As private markets welcomes more investors to the space, the how becomes as important as the why. How can investors gain access to private markets in ways that work for them?How can alternative asset managers better serve those investors? How can this all be done in a responsible, thoughtful way that sets up both investors and private markets for success in the long-term?Lawrence and I had a fascinating conversation. We discussed:How can operational efficiency across the entire value chain lower fees?Where do technological innovations like distributed ledger and AI factor into industry transformation?How important is education in driving adoption of alternative investments?How model portfolios and customization can transform the investor experience.Platform versus point solutions.Overestimating and underestimating market trends and market size.Why effortless is a myth.Thanks Lawrence for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your thoughtful perspectives on the industry and its continued evolution.Show Notes00:00 Introduction to Ultimus Fund Solutions01:18 Welcome to Alt Goes Mainstream and Introduction to Lawrence Calcano02:26 Navigating Private Markets03:36 Holistic Solutions for GPs and LPs03:57 Importance of Education in Alts04:46 Understanding Alts in Portfolios06:50 Lowering Fees Across the Chain07:32 Technology and Tools for Advisors08:36 Success in the Wealth Channel10:21 Investment Product Innovations11:44 Direct Relationships in Private Markets13:26 Operationalizing Cost Structure Changes14:21 The Role of AI and Data14:43 Fee Evolution in Private Markets15:31 Operationalizing New Workflows16:06 Long-Term Industry Investments18:37 Collaboration in the Industry and Education20:34 Model Portfolios and Customization23:04 Addressing Liquidity Concerns24:18 Democratization of Private Markets25:14 Platform vs. Point Solutions31:14 The Importance of Scale38:53 Moving Fast and Moving Slow 40:33 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsA word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency.To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products.Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.His career started when someone said to him, “well, have you thought about venture capital? We don’t think that you’d be any good at it.”The rest is history.Today’s episode features one of the legends of the venture capital industry.Peter Barris joined New Enterprise Associates in 1992 after a storied operating career as President and COO at Legent Corporation and an executive at GE Information Services. He served as Managing General Partner and Chairman of NEA from 1999 to March 2024. Under Peter’s leadership, NEA saw tremendous success, growing into one of the world’s largest venture capital firms and raising the largest-ever venture capital fund a number of times. Today, NEA’s AUM stands over $25B.Peter was responsible for investing in a number of foundational and industry-transforming technology companies, including Salesforce.com, UUNET, Groupon, WebMD, Workday, CareerBuilder, Tempus, and more.It was an honor to talk with Peter, who has such rich perspectives as both an operator and investor.We had a fascinating discussion about the early days of venture capital and how the industry has evolved. We covered:The inside story of how almost every other Partner said no but Peter's investment turned out to be a 75x return.What's the “best characteristic and the death characteristic” of an entrepreneur?In today's hypercompetitive market, do VCs have enough time to make good decisions?Why the world of venture capital is about influence.What does it mean to earn an entrepreneur’s trust as a VC?Why VCs with operating backgrounds can bring unique value to startups.How NEA came up with the term "Venture Growth Equity."How can a VC tell that a founder is good at experimentation and that they have the good judgment?Why specialization and domain expertise are prerequisites in today’s venture industry.The importance of relying on instinct to make great investments.Why the business plan that is bet on is not always the business plan that ultimately succeeds.Thanks Peter for coming on the show. It was an honor and a pleasure to hear your views on the evolution of an industry and for you to share your wisdom and experiences.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message from Ultimus01:55 Guest Introduction: Peter Barris01:59 Peter Barris' Career Beginnings as an Operator03:43 How Peter decided to join NEA04:31 Early Days at NEA12:30 First Investment Experience – The world of venture capital is about influence15:07 How to Influence a Company when You Don’t Control the Company21:48 Scaling Businesses: When Scale Can be a Moat - The Groupon Example26:41 The Art of Experimentation29:16 The Most Important Characteristic of Successful Entrepreneurs and the Death Characteristic30:40 The Groupon Investment: A Case Study33:08 The Evolution of Venture Capital Decision Making33:58 Specialization and Competition in Modern Venture Capital38:10 How NEA Came Up with the Term: Venture Growth Equity46:04 The Impact of Scale in Venture Capital50:49 The Future of Venture Capital and Industry Evolution59:16 Lessons Learned in Venture Capital01:02:08 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsA word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency. To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products. Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode features the architects behind one of the industry’s faster growing wealth management platforms, NewEdge.We welcome NewEdge CEO, Managing Partner, and Co-Founder Rob Sechan and NewEdge CIO Cameron Dawson.Both Rob and Cameron have a wealth of experience in both wealth management and private markets. Rob has over two decades of experience in financial services, beginning his career as a financial advisor at Morgan Stanley, before running a family office business as a Managing Director at Lehman Brothers. He later joined UBS as a Managing Director and Head of the Intellectual Capital Subcommittee, where he helped guide the firm’s tactical investment process for wealthy families and institutional clients before founding NewEdge in 2020. Cameron was the Chief Market Strategist at Fieldpoint Private Securities and a Senior Equity Analyst at Bank of America before joining NewEdge as CIO.Since its founding in 2020, NewEdge has grown to over $44B AUM, supports over 300 financial advisors. NewEdge has built a platform that combines wealth management, technology, custody, research, and alternatives capabilities. They’ve built out a sophisticated private markets investment practice, which we unpacked in detail on today’s podcast.Rob, Cameron, and I had a fascinating discussion. We covered:The transformation in wealth management and the approach that NewEdge has taken in the independent wealth channel.The evolution of Super RIAs.The role of alternatives in wealth management. Navigating client psyche and market cycles.The importance of due diligence and why fee discipline matters in private markets.The importance of liquidity in a client's portfolio.Why portfolio construction is key in the wealth channel.Thanks Rob and Cameron for coming on the show to share your thoughtful views on wealth management and private markets.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Ultimus Sponsor Message01:21 Welcome to the Podcast02:03 Introducing NewEdge Wealth and the Guests02:20 Rob Sechan's Journey in Wealth Management07:46 Cameron Dawson's Perspective on NewEdge11:45 The Role of Alternatives in Wealth Management20:09 The Evolution of Super RIAs24:10 Investment Strategies and Client Focus31:31 Balancing Proactivity and Client Sensitivity31:56 The Importance of Transparency and Differentiation32:30 Navigating Client Psyche and Market Cycles33:33 The Role of Alternatives in Portfolios36:05 Private Equity Opportunities and Challenges38:00 Fee Discipline and Alpha Generation51:57 Engaging with Wealth Channels56:52 Favorite Alternative Investments59:27 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsA word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency. To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products. Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.

AGM collaborated with Pangea Group, a firm that helps B2B fintech companies with go-to-market strategies, at a live event they hosted on private markets in London with Schroders and Illuminate Financial to gather thoughts from some leaders in private markets on their views of the industry’s future in Europe. We asked seven private market participants for their views on 2024 trends in private markets.Hear what they have to say. Listen to short interviews with:Spencer Lake, Partner, 13books Capital.Toby Bailey, VP of Sales EMEA, Canoe.Rezso Szabo, General Partner, Illuminate Financial.Dan Kramer, Strategic Advisor, ex-CEO, Jaid AI.Tom Davies, Managing Director and President, Forge Europe.Levent Altunel, Co-Founder, bunch.Jay Wilson, Partner, AlbionVC.Thanks for coming on AGM unfiltered to share your views and thoughts on the future of private markets.Show Notes00:00 Introduction 00:35 Event Overview and Purpose 01:06 Conversation with Spencer Lake, 13books Capital01:25 Spencer Lake on Banking and FinTech02:42 Challenges in Private Markets05:18 Standardization and Technology in Finance07:34 Insights from nCino's Success09:44 The Story Behind 13books10:51 Future of Private Markets 12:55 Conversation with Toby Bailey, Canoe15:07 Canoe's Approach to Data Management 22:09 Conversation with Reszo Szabo, Illuminate Financial22:40 Illuminate Financial's Investment Focus23:51 Generational Transformation in Private Markets26:36 Challenges in Private Market Liquidity 31:41 Conversation with Dan Kramer, Jaid AI32:05 Dan Kramer's Career Journey34:19 Evolution and Transparency in Private Markets35:37 Jaid's Role in Fund Administration36:10 The Challenge of Communication in Fund Management36:49 How Jaid Solves Communication Issues38:03 The Impact of AI on Post-Investment Processes39:12 Technology Gaps in Private Markets 40:05 Interview with Tom Davies, Forge Europe: Evolution of Private Markets in Europe41:23 SPV Nominee Model and Institutional Adoption42:35 Current Sentiment in the European Secondary Market43:53 The Changing Skill Set of VCs45:07 Challenges and Opportunities in Private Market Liquidity 49:55 Interview with Levent Altunel, bunch: Transforming Fund Management51:21 Unified Data Solutions for Fund Managers52:53 Future Directions for bunch 57:06 Interview with Jay Wilson, AlbionVC: Evolution of Capital Markets01:00:35 Electronifying Private Markets01:03:08 The Role of Data Analytics in Private Markets 01:06:52 Conclusion: The Future of Private Markets

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.On today’s show, we turned the tables. We welcomed famed podcast co-host of Animal Spirits and The Compound and Friends and writer at The Irrelevant Investor, and Managing Partner and Director of Research at $4B AUM Ritholtz Wealth Management Michael Batnick to come on the show to share a wealth manager’s perspective on private markets.Michael’s career has taken a number of fascinating turns. He started selling insurance, before a chance meeting on the platform of the subway station with Josh Brown of Ritholtz Wealth Management after a New York Knicks loss led to a job offer to work with Josh at RWM. At Ritholtz, Michael has been an integral part of the team that has helped to drive the firm’s growth, leading with content and education. Each of the firm’s Partners have built impressive content platforms across blogs, books, and podcasts. Their thoughtful approaches to investing come through in their work — and it’s translated to how they think about private markets. Michael provided interesting viewpoints on why alternatives have yet to be adopted by many advisors and the challenges with adopting alternatives products.Michael and I had a fascinating discussion at the intersection of wealth and alts. Michael and I covered:His journey into wealth management and the lessons he has learned along the way.The importance of education and networking in the wealth management industry.How he thinks about risk in public and private markets.The evolution of wealth management as a business.Why alternatives products are still sold and not bought.The importance of staying focused on fundamentals and long-term investing.The workflow challenges that alternative investments have for a wealth management firm.How and why content can develop views, educate, and build brand in wealth management and private markets.Thanks Michael for coming on the show to share your thoughts and wisdom on investing.Show Notes02:03 Introduction to Alt Goes Mainstream 02:43 Guest Introduction: Michael Batnick 03:00 Michael's Early Career and Challenges 07:26 Meeting Josh Brown and Career Breakthrough 08:35 Lessons from the Insurance World 09:20 Creating Content and Building a Brand 10:58 Investing Philosophy and Market Insights 14:27 Young Investors and Market Psychology 19:13 Public vs. Private Markets 29:25 Advisors and Private Investments 34:21 Customization and Differentiation in Private Markets 34:50 Challenges in Pitching Investments to Clients 35:09 Operational Hurdles in Alternative Investments 35:34 The Role of Relationship Managers 36:16 Building and Managing Alts Portfolios 43:04 Market Dynamics and Investment Strategies 53:43 Content Creation in Wealth Management 58:53 The Future of Wealth Management with AI 01:01:46 Quick Fire Round: Market Predictions and Insights 01:05:19 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsA word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency. To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products. Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode features a masterclass in private markets from a guest who has seen it all.Jim Strang is a deeply experienced private equity professional who has been part of the industry as a GP, LP, investor, consultant, and now a teacher, board member, and advisor to a number of firms.I’d probably have to spend a good few pages going through everything that Jim has done and is currently doing in private markets. He’s a practitioner and a teacher, an expert and an operator. After an illustrious career that was punctuated as Chairman EMEA of Hamilton Lane, one of the largest LPs in private markets globally, he now serves in a number of board and advisor roles, which include Chairman of the Board at HgCapital Trust plc, Senior Advisor to CVC Capital Partners, Advisor at Bain & Company, and Director at Pictet Alternative Advisors.Jim and I had a fascinating conversation about the evolution of private markets and what the future holds for large and small funds alike, as well as LPs. We discussed:The step function changes that take private markets from $15T to $30T of AUM.Why traditional asset managers may struggle to replicate the capabilities of alternative asset managers in private markets.The importance of partnerships having a clear ambition and alignment if they want to build a scaled platform.The challenges that managers in the middle face as large platforms and specialist managers are the differentiated firms in the eyes of LPs.Why GPs need to find innovative solutions to address the needs of different types of investors.Why building a strong brand is crucial to success in the wealth channel.Thanks Jim for coming on the show to share your wisdom and experience on private markets.This episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. In an increasingly sophisticated financial marketplace, investment managers must navigate a growing array of challenges: elaborate fund structures, specialized strategies, evolving compliance requirements, a growing need for sophisticated reporting, and intensifying demands for transparency. To assist with these challenging opportunities, more and more fund sponsors and asset managers are turning to Ultimus, a leading service provider that blends high tech and high touch in unique and customized fund administration and middle office solutions for a diverse and growing universe of over 450 clients and 1,800 funds, representing $500 billion assets under administration, all handled by a team of over 1,000 professionals. Ultimus offers a wide range of capabilities across registered funds, private funds and public plans, as well as outsourced middle office services. Delivering operational excellence, Ultimus helps firms manage the ever-changing regulatory environment while meeting the needs of their institutional and retail investors. Ultimus provides comprehensive operational support and fund governance services to help managers successfully launch retail alternative products. Visit www.ultimusfundsolutions.com to learn more about Ultimus’ technology enhanced services and solutions or contact Ultimus Executive Vice President of Business Development Gary Harris on email at [email protected] thank Ultimus for their support of alts going mainstream.Show Notes00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message02:06 Podcast Theme Song02:44 Guest Introduction: Jim Strang02:52 Jim Strang's Career Overview05:35 State of Private Markets: Challenges and Opportunities08:04 Fundraising Dynamics in Private Equity11:25 European Private Equity: Evolution and Insights15:01 Scaling Challenges and Ambitions in Private Equity25:41 Technology and Innovation in Private Equity32:47 Challenges in Organizational Analysis33:56 Psychological Assessments in Investment Decisions35:48 Effective Questioning Techniques for LPs36:29 Transparency and Culture in Investment Firms37:34 Evolution of Asset Management38:41 Public vs. Private Asset Managers40:27 Generational Shifts in Private Equity Firms44:12 Growth and Democratization of Private Markets48:40 Liquidity Challenges in Private Markets54:45 Quick Fire Round: Insights on Private Markets01:00:10 Entertainment Investments: Music Royalties and Sports01:04:02 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Welcome to the 10th episode of a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream. Here’s the latest episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a live conversation in studio with Lawrence Calcano, the Chairman & CEO of iCapital, who as the leader of a platform that is responsible for the majority of individual and advisor-led investment flows into the alts space, has his finger on the pulse of what’s happening in private markets.In today’s episode, Lawrence and I welcome a special guest. Hightower Advisors Managing Director, Head of Alternative Investments Robert Picard joins us to discuss the operational challenges and solutions in private markets.Robert has spearheaded the creation of the Alternative Investment Platform offering at Hightower, where he and the team curates investment opportunities in private markets for their advisor teams through research and due diligence. Hightower has 140 advisor teams that collectively manage over $150B AUM. Robert has a wealth of experience in private markets. He was instrumental in building four multi-billion dollar alternative investment platforms at The Carlyle Group / Rock Creek, Optima Fund Management, RBC Capital markets, and State Street / InfraHedge. Most recently, Robert served as Head of Alternative Investments at First Republic Wealth Management.On this episode, Lawrence, Robert, and I had a fascinating and lively discussion. We covered a number of topics, including:How wealth platforms like Hightower and infrastructure operating systems like iCapital are creating straight-through-processing solutions across the lifecycle of a private markets investment for the wealth channel.The importance of bringing alts directly to the advisor’s desktop.Why improving the experience for advisors in private markets is critical to increasing adoption.Why it’s important to build across the continuum of needs for different types of high-net-worth investors.The importance of customization and differentiation with private markets solutions for advisors.What is the biggest unlock to enabling greater flows of capital into private markets?What are the implications of opening up the alts superhighway?Thanks Lawrence and Robert for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s conversation!

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s podcast is a special show with 3i Members co-founder Mark Gerson.Alt Goes Mainstream’s first sponsor is 3i Members, an investing network built on community, collaboration and capital that was co-founded by Mark Gerson, Billy Libby, and Teddy Gold. 3i Members is a global deal network for accomplished private investors. Members uncover, share, and diligence high-quality investment opportunities in private markets. The network offers more than just investment opportunities, providing access to expert databases, legal services, international events and retreats, masterclasses, asset allocation workshops, and other resources.Mark is a serial entrepreneur who has built a number of communities that have revolved around some form of crowdsourcing.In addition to founding 3i Members, Mark founded Gerson Lehman Group, a knowledge brokerage and primary research firm, that figured out how to use the power of community to serve its customers. He also founded United Hatzalah, a crowd-sourced system of volunteer first response that enables Israelis to be treated within the moments separating life from death following any medical trauma. He also co-founded and is the Chairman of African Mission Healthcare, which enables Christian medical missionaries to provide clinical care, training, and medical infrastructure for people throughout Africa.From co-founding United Hatzalah of Israel to building a unique community in the private markets space with 3i Members, Mark shares his experiences and the profound impact of community and crowdsourcing in both philanthropy and private markets. The episode dives into the intricacies of building capable, engaged communities, the conceptual differences between a network and a community, and the unique approach of 3i Members in creating a collaborative investing landscape. We discussed:Mark’s journey and the significance of pro-social behaviors and intellectual curiosity among investors. How 3i Members facilitates a space for private investors to share, scrutinize, and engage with high-quality investment opportunities. The importance of asking the right questions in investment. ROI-based philanthropyThe value of non-transactional relationships within communities.Thanks Mark for coming on the show to share your stories and wisdom.Chapters00:00 Welcome to the Mainstream: The Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast Intro00:42 Introducing 3i Members: A New Era of Investing01:11 Mark Gerson's Journey: Building Communities and Crowdsourcing Success02:59 The Power of Community in Crowdsourced First Response07:59 3i Members: Crowdsourcing in the Investment World09:44 The Art of Building and Maintaining Quality Networks12:02 The Philosophy of No-Selling in Building Trust and Community14:59 Engineering Serendipity: Fostering Organic Growth and Engagement19:59 Investment Strategies and Learning from the 3i Community24:40 The Future of Investing with 3i Members34:51 ROI in Philanthropy: A New Approach to Giving40:09 Closing Thoughts

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s podcast provided us with an in-depth tour of financial markets with a student of both finance and history. And what a tour guide we had. Marc Rubinstein, an investment professional with 25 years of experience researching and investing in financial services joined us on the show.Marc started his career as an equity research analyst, where he ultimately became a MD at Credit Suisse, leading the European banking sector equity research group before joining Lansdowne Partners. Lansdowne was one of Europe’s largest hedge funds, where he was a Partner and managed the award-winning $4B global long/short financials equity fund.He retired from Lansdowne in 2016 and, after going back to school to obtain his MBA from LBS, he launched Net Interest, a wildly popular and incredibly thoughtful newsletter on financial sector themes. I find Marc’s thoughts and views on Net Interest equal parts insightful and digestible. Marc is also an active value investor and early-stage fintech investor, where he was an early investor in Revolut. He’s also a contributor to Bloomberg Opinion.Marc and I had a fascinating conversation about a number of themes that are defining private markets. We discussed:Why most businesses are marketplaces and what that means for how one should evaluate a business.Whether or not private credit is a systemic risk.Why the Silicon Valley Bank crisis occurred and why private credit firms are filling the void.Where to look for new asset classes and how they become institutionalized.The nuts and bolts of alternative asset managers as businesses.Why pod shops have featured in the hedge fund world and why PE and VC will have different versions of pod shops.Why content is key for financial services businesses.How financial media has evolved and why the narrative arc of companies is a perspective that Marc enjoys coveringThanks Marc for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your wisdom on financial services and financial markets.ChaptersIntroduction and BackgroundGetting into the World of FinanceBanks Today and the Rise of Alternative Asset ManagersRegulatory Concerns and Private CreditSystemic Risk and Excessive GrowthIdentifying Risks in Private CreditScale and Returns in Asset ManagementThe Growth of Large Platforms in Private MarketsThe Equilibrium of Scale and ReturnsThe Convergence of Traditional and Alternative Asset ManagementThe Trend of Evergreen Funds in Private MarketsThe Acquisition of GIP by BlackRockThe Competition Between BlackRock and BlackstoneThe Merging of Traditional and Alternative Asset ManagementThe Future of Active ManagementLessons from the Financial CrisisThe Impact of Media on Financial ServicesThe Trend of Permanent Capital in Private MarketsThe Evolution of Media in Financial ServicesThe Role of Content in Financial ServicesThe Importance of Understanding Financial Services HistoryThe Relevance of Deep Analysis in Financial ServicesValue Creation through ContentDifferent Paths for Content BusinessesPurity of Content in Financial ServicesThe Future of Content in Financial ServicesThe Impact of AI on Investment RecommendationsThe Value of Artisanal Work and IntelligencePod Shops in Private MarketsGP Stakes as an Analogy to Pod ShopsThe Psychology of Discounting Private MarketsThe Growth and Sustainability of Private MarketsInfrastructure as an Interesting Alternative Investment

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode features an enabler of the micro VC movement who has now scaled his business into one of the industry’s larger fund administrators. Braughm Ricke is the Founder and CEO of Aduro Advisors, a leading fund administrator that has carved out a sterling reputation in the VC world.He's grown the business to over $114B+ AUA and over 450+ customers, that counts many of the leading VC funds, including Lowercarbon, Cowboy Ventures, Ahoy Capital, Craft, Haystack, Boost VC, and others, as customers. They've also managed to combine a high-quality service with innovative technology and a partnership strategy that has enabled them to differentiate from other fund admins.Prior to founding Aduro, Braughm was the founding CFO of True Ventures, a leading Silicon Valley VC fund. Braughm is incredibly knowledgeable about the private markets space more generally and is also an active investor in the private markets startup ecosystem, investing early in the likes of Carta, Allocate, Passthrough, Arch, and others.Braughm and I had a fascinating conversation about the evolution of fund administration. We discussed:Why Braughm started with emerging managers and the unmet need he saw to serve them.Why he believed the emerging manager landscape would grow.How he’s moved upstream beyond venture capital clients.How fund admin can integrate technology.Will AI change fund administration?Advice Braughm would give to founders building in private markets.Thanks Braughm for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your wisdom on building a core infrastructure provider for private markets.

Welcome to the 9th episode of a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream. Here’s the latest episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a live conversation in studio with Lawrence Calcano, the Chairman & CEO of iCapital, who as the leader of a platform that is responsible for the majority of individual and advisor-led investment flows into the alts space, has his finger on the pulse of what’s happening in private markets.In today’s episode, Lawrence and I welcome a special guest. Arax Investment Partners CEO Haig Ariyan, a wealth management industry veteran, joins us to discuss the evolution of wealth management and the role that alts can and should play in wealth client portfolios. Together with RedBird Capital, an $8.6 billion AUM private equity firm focused on financial services and sports and media, Haig and Arax are partnering with wealth and asset management firms and teams to build a differentiated platform that takes lessons learned and deep experience from Haig's background running wealth management businesses. Following its recent acquisition of $9B AUM U.S. Capital Wealth Advisors, Arax now has over $16.5B in AUM and $13B in regulatory AUM.On this episode, Lawrence, Haig, and I had a fascinating and lively discussion. We covered a number of topics, including:The importance of independent and hybrid platforms in wealth management.How to build culture at a wealth management firm.How advisors can utilize alternative investments to benefit their clients.How the industry can collaborate to enhance client outcomes and ensure informed investment decisions.How innovative fund structures could change the landscape of private markets.Thanks Lawrence and Haig for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s conversation!

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode is with a fintech founder who has scaled one of the larger private markets investing platforms for individual investors.Michael Weisz is the Founder and CEO of Yieldstreet, a leading private markets investing platform, with more than 450K members and $3.9B invested (as of October 2023). An award-winning entrepreneur, he co-founded Yieldstreet in 2015 with the ambition to provide individual investors with access to curated private market assets typically reserved for institutions. As CEO, Michael leads Yieldstreet’s strategic vision to make alternatives a fundamental piece of investor portfolios.Before Yieldstreet, Michael held a variety of positions across the specialty finance spectrum, including founding Soli Capital. Previously, Michael was Vice President at a New York-based credit opportunities hedge fund with $1.2B under management.Michael and I had a fascinating conversation about the evolution of private markets and how to deliver investment opportunities directly to consumers. We discussed the business evolution of Yieldstreet, how they work with both individuals and advisors, and what he thinks is important when it comes to providing investors with access to private markets.Thanks Michael for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your thoughtful views on private markets.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode with an internet legend provides an illuminating window into how the past can help inform us about the future.Steve Case is a pioneer and a visionary. He built one of the foundational companies of the internet, AOL, that brought America and the world online. As one of America’s best-known and most accomplished entrepreneurs, Steve has spent the past 39 years building, investing in, and shaping business policy for many industry-defining companies.His entrepreneurial career began in 1985 when he co-founded America Online. Under Steve’s leadership, AOL became the world’s largest and most valuable internet company. AOL was the first internet company to go public, and one of the best performing stocks of 1990s, delivering 11,616% return to shareholders. At its peak, nearly half of internet users in the U.S. used AOL.Steve has since built another successful company, Revolution, a Washington, D.C.-based investment firm that backs entrepreneurs at every stage of their development. Revolution Growth has invested nearly $1 billion in growth-stage companies including Sweetgreen, Tempus, Tala, DraftKings, and CLEAR. Revolution Ventures has invested in almost 30 companies, including Framebridge and SRS Acquiom. Revolution’s Rise of the Rest Seed Fund has invested in over 200 startups in 100 US cities, building critical ecosystem development for entrepreneurship across the country.Steve’s passion for helping entrepreneurs has extended to the policy world. He was the founding chair of the Startup America Partnership, an effort launched at the White House in 2011 to accelerate high-growth entrepreneurship around the country. He was also the founding co-chair of the National Advisory Council on Innovation & Entrepreneurship, and a member of President Obama’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, where he chaired the subcommittee on entrepreneurship. He was also instrumental in passing the JOBS (Jumpstart Our Business Startups) Act and the Investing in Opportunities Act. He’s also the Chairman of the Case Foundation, which he established with his wife, Jean, in 1997 and together in 2010 they joined The Giving Pledge.Steve is also the author of the New York Times bestselling book, “The Third Wave: An Entrepreneur’s Vision of the Future and The Rise of the Rest: How Entrepreneurs in Surprising Places are Building the American Dream,” which has ended up serving as a fantastic blueprint for the next wave of the internet.Steve and I had a fascinating and illuminating conversation, full of lessons learned from building the first wave of the internet that can be applied to building and investing in companies today.We discussed:How Steve and his team built AOL into the world’s largest and most valuable internet company at a time when 3% of people were using the internet for 1 hour a day.How revolutions happen in evolutionary ways.The three waves of the internet and why Steve believes that the third wave is much more complex and will require the ability to navigate policy and partnerships.Lessons he learned as a founder to build a successful and diversified investment firm in Revolution.How emerging technology ecosystems can build thriving startup communities, starting with “tentpole companies.”How the things that happen to you shape how you live your life and on “living a life that’s full with passion and urgency.”Thanks Steve for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your wisdom, lessons learned, and visionary views of the future. It was an honor and a pleasure to have you on the show.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode takes us into the world of technology with an expert in private markets tech.Griff Norville is a Managing Director and Head of Technology Solutions at Hamilton Lane, the $903B AUM (*Inclusive of $120.2B in discretionary assets under management and $782.9B in non-discretionary assets under management, as of December 31, 2023) global alternative asset manager. Griff leads the firm’s tech-enabled analytics, forecasting, and investment diligence platform, Cobalt LPTM and related portfolio reporting services, and co-heads the firm’s Technology Committee.Griff focuses on building proprietary tools and strategically partnering or investing into private markets fintech companies as part of the firm’s efforts to drive digital transformation within the industry. Griff also leverages his background on the investment side to help inform how he thinks about technology transformation within private markets. He previously co-led Hamilton Lane’s research team, where he was responsible for leveraging data to assess market trends and advice clients on investment and portfolio construction strategy.Griff and I had a fascinating conversation about the evolution of private markets technology and why it’s an exciting time for innovation in the space. We discussed:How private markets are moving from the Stone Age and Excel age to the digital age.Why most GPs are still underinvested in technology.How Griff approaches the build, buy, invest question.Why Cobalt was so foundational to Hamilton Lane’s work in private markets.How technology innovation has driven product innovation when working with the wealth channel.What comes next for technology in private markets.Thanks Griff for coming on the show to share your thoughts and wisdom on how technology is impacting private markets and for the work you’re doing to invest in technology that’s transforming the space.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today we have the operator’s view on the show. We bring in someone who rose up the ranks of a private equity-backed software company to be CEO of that company — ECi Software Solutions — that now generates over $500M in revenue and $200M in EBITDA.We welcome Ron Books, now an Operating Partner at Carlyle and the CEO at Net Health, a Carlyle portfolio company. He also sits on a number of boards for Carlyle.He is now the Chairman and is the former CEO of ECi Software Solutions, a leading global provider of cloud-based software for SMEs, which he successful sold to Leonard Green & Partners for a multi-billion dollar exit. Ron started with ECi when it was a startup company and rose in the organization to serve as VP Sales, then COO, and then CEO, a position which he held from 2009 to 2021. While serving as CEO, Ron and his team developed and executed a strategic plan that included overseeing 46 M&A transactions and a successful software license to cloud migration across nearly a dozen platforms. They received investment from — and sold the business to — Insight Partners, Carlyle, Apax Partners, Goldman Sachs, and most recently, Leonard Green & Partners. Under his leadership as CEO, ECi grew from less than $50M in revenue to over $500M and a sale of the company in 2020 at a multi-billion dollar valuation.Ron has all the hallmarks of a successful entrepreneur — energetic yet thoughtful, a tireless work ethic, the ability to connect with customers and employees, and loyalty to both customers and employees.Ron and I had a fascinating conversation about what it takes to build a great company and culture and how to work with private equity given that he’s been on both sides of the table. We discussed:Lessons learned from growing a business to $500M in revenue and $200M in EBITDA.How he built and grew ECi through acquisitions and globalizing the business.Why culture matters and how to vet for culture in the hiring process.Stories from the challenges and successes of integrating 41 companies via M&A.How founders should think about working with private equity firms.How founders can get the most out of their board members and operating partners.The transition from CEO to Operating Executive back to CEO.Thanks Ron for coming on the show to share your wisdom and experiences that are an invaluable source of learnings for both founders and investors.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode takes us inside the world of wealth from the perspective of one of the industry’s largest alternative asset managers.We are joined by Sean Connor, President & CEO, Global Private Wealth at Blue Owl Capital, a firm with over $160B in AUM. Sean highlighted a number of key insights for navigating and working with the wealth channel as he shared lessons learned from building a successful private wealth business at a large alternative asset manager.Sean is responsible for bringing the breadth of the Blue Owl investment platform to the global private wealth market. He’s at the forefront of Blue Owl’s private wealth initiatives globally and oversees fund formation, product structure innovation, capital raising, and client servicing. He also oversees business development, marketing, and operations for Private Wealth at the firm. Prior to his current role, Sean was one of the first employees at Owl Rock (now the Direct Lending division of Blue Owl) and was responsible for building out the private wealth business.Prior to joining Blue Owl and Owl Rock, Sean served as a Managing Director of CION Investment Management for over 10 years. Sean was a member of CION’s Investment Committee and was responsible for all aspects of CION’s business including originating, underwriting, negotiating, and corporate finance transactions globally. In 2020, Sean was recognized by Private Debt Investor as one of the industry’s Rising Stars.Sean and I had a fascinating conversation about what it’s like to work with the wealth channel. We discussed:How and why it’s so difficult to work with the wealth channel.Why the wealth channel is not a new phenomenon, yet why it’s still relatively untapped in terms of alternative asset managers understanding how to work with the wealth channel.How Blue Owl’s wealth business works across its three different investment platforms.Why scale matters in certain areas of private markets.Why the wealth channel is not one channel, but rather an agglomeration of different customer types and geographies.How the market is evolving where a one-stop-shop type firm may be how much of the wealth channel interacts with private markets.What it means for distribution professionals to understand their client and the daily demands of a wealth manager's business when educating the wealth channel on alternatives products.Why education of the wealth channel should focus more on holistic education and less on selling product.Why the wealth channel matters when it comes to alternative asset managers acquiring other alternative asset managers.Thanks Sean for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share such actionable and thoughtful insights on how firms can work with wealth.

Welcome to the 8th episode of a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream.Here’s the latest episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a live conversation in studio with Lawrence Calcano, the Chairman & CEO of iCapital, who as the leader of a platform that is responsible for the majority of individual and advisor-led investment flows into the alts space, has his finger on the pulse of what’s happening in private markets.On this episode, Lawrence and I had a fascinating and lively discussion. We covered:How is product innovation enabling the wealth channel to invest in private markets?How are GPs being thoughtful about the structures they are creating for their clients?What challenges do GPs face when thinking about how to build products for the wealth channel?What is driving the growth of evergreen and interval fund structures?Why is it important to focus on user experience when structuring products?Where are we in the evolution of private markets? Is it still “early innings?”Thanks Lawrence for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s conversation!

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode takes us inside the mind of a tech titan who is at the forefront of shaping the market structure evolution in private markets.John Stecher is the Chief Technology Officer at Blackstone. He’s responsible for all aspects of technology across the firm and advises the firm’s investment teams as well as acts as a resource to portfolio companies on technology-related matters. John and the team at Blackstone have invested in iCapital, Canoe, 73 Strings, LemonEdge, amongst others.It’s also his background in other areas of technology and consumer financial services that stands out – and provides insights and lessons learned for how to build technology within private markets. Prior to joining Blackstone, John was a Managing Director, the Chief Technology Officer, and the Chief Innovation Officer at Barclays. He was also a member of the Barclays Technology Management Committee. Prior to joining Barclays in 2017, he worked at Goldman Sachs, where he held a variety of senior management and engineering roles across the firm’s capital markets and technology divisions, and most recently built their Marcus-branded consumer finance division. He also worked at IBM, where he was appointed an IBM Master Inventor, where he delivered / created over 45 patents across several diverse problem spaces.John and I had a fascinating conversation about how technology is core to both the business Blackstone is building and the businesses they invest into. We discussed:How Blackstone leverages technology internally and externally to create value.Why alts are still sold, not bought.Why he sees the biggest evolution happening in the finance and accounting space within private markets — and what innovations are being built there.Why the front office of private markets will still require human intervention despite technology advancements.Why the alts space needs systematization.How product structure innovation (i.e. evergreen funds, etc.) is driving technology innovation.How private markets are becoming more consumer oriented.Thanks John for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your wisdom and experience of building core technology for capital markets and private markets.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast. Today we have an incredible discussion that spans the world of private credit and the growth of women’s sports - and how those two topics intersect in the guest’s daily life.Chris Long founded Palmer Square Capital Management, an approximately $29B+ asset manager focused on corporate and structured credit with offices in Kansas City and London, in June 2009. Currently, he serves as Chairman, CEO, and Portfolio Manager. Since inception, Chris has been successful in building one of the premier credit investment firms in the world that includes clients across institutions, family offices, RIAs, bank / trust, and broker dealers. Prior to starting Palmer Square, Chris built a deep investment background at some of the top financial firms in the world, including Morgan Stanley, TH Lee Putnam Ventures, and JP Morgan.In December 2020, Chris added the title of Professional Sports Team Owner, as he joined Co-Founder and Owner Angie Long and Co-Owner Brittany Mahomes in bringing a National Women’s Soccer League franchise to Kansas City. The KC Current launched on an extraordinary timeline, playing its first professional match just 124 days after the franchise was announced. As owners, Chris, Angie, Brittany, and recent addition to ownership Kansas City Chiefs star Patrick Mahomes, have had a clear vision for not only establishing the best women’s soccer club in the world, but also having the KC Current serve as a model for all of women’s sports, which was no more apparent than with the recent completion of their new stadium, a $124M project that is the first soccer stadium specifically for a women’s professional soccer team.Chris serves on the National Women’s Soccer League’s (NWSL) Board of Governors and Expansion Committee as well as on the Executive Committee of the Kansas City 2026 World Cup Bid. Chris was recently recognized for winning the prestigious Kansas City Sports Commission’s 2022 Sports Executive of the Year and Sports Business Journal’s 2022 Power Players — Women’s Sports. He and his wife Angie were inducted into the 2023 Junior Achievement of Greater Kansas City Business Hall of Fame.Chris and I had a fascinating conversation that spanned the world of credit and sports team ownership and investing — and how those two worlds are coming together. We discussed:How Chris and his team built a $29B asset manager in the credit space.Why he believes that private credit’s growth does not represent a systemic risk despite a more lax lending environment due to increased capital inflows and increased competition for good deals.Why he believes the one-stop-shop will emerge in credit for both borrowers and LPs.Why a background in credit and investing has been invaluable in understanding how to navigate the business side of building and running a sports franchise.How Chris decided to buy a NWSL team with his wife and co-founder Angie.Why Chris believes investing in women’s soccer in the US is like “buying the Boston Celtics in the 1960s.”Why owning your own facilities as a sports team is a huge lever to increase revenues and drive enterprise value.How driving business initiatives for a sports team can help build the community and build the roster.Thanks Chris for coming on the show to share invaluable insights into building elite performers in both the world of finance and the world of women’s soccer. Good luck this season with the Current — I’ll be rooting for you, except when you play Angel City FC 😉.This material is for informational purposes and is prepared by Palmer Square Capital Management LLC (“Palmer Square”), is not intended to be relied upon as a forecast, research or investment advice, and is not a recommendation, offer or solicitation to buy or sell any securities or to adopt any investment strategy. The opinions expressed are as of date of publication and are subject to change. The information and opinions contained in this material are derived from proprietary and nonproprietary sources deemed by Palmer Square to be reliable and are not guaranteed as to accuracy or completeness. This material may contain ’forward looking’ information that is not purely historical in nature. There is no guarantee that any forecasts made will come to pass. Reliance upon information in this material is at the sole discretion of the reader. Past performance is not indicative of current or future results. This information provided is neither tax nor legal advice and investors should consult with their own advisors before making investment decisions. Investment involves risk including possible loss of principal.

“The room where it happens …No one really knows how the game is playedThe art of the tradeHow the sausage gets madeWe just assume that it happens But no one else is in the room where it happens …When you got skin in the game, you stay in the gameBut you don’t get a win unless you play in the game.”Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast. These excerpts were in a song by Leslie Odom Jr. and Lin-Manuel Miranda from Hamilton. But they could also be applied to the conversation Laurence Tosi of WestCap and I had today.Today’s show is with someone who has been in the room where it happens. Stories and perspectives shared today were from someone who has helped turn bills into laws in private markets.Laurence Tosi has been part of building foundational technology businesses and companies in capital markets and private markets – from investing in and building Ipreo, iLevel, TMC Bonds, and Tradeweb as an executive at Merrill Lynch where he served as COO of Global Investment Banking and Trading, building Blackstone from 2008-2015 as the CFO, Management & Risk Committee Member, Head of the Tech Innovations Fund, and Blackstone Treasury Solutions Fund, and building and scaling Airbnb as CFO and Head of Payments, Customer Experience, and Corporate Development.At Merrill Lynch and Blackstone, L.T. deployed $500M of capital, returning over $1.6B without taking a loss.He's now building WestCap, a $7.6B growth investing firm that L.T. characterizes as an “operating equity firm” that helps founders and companies scale their businesses at the inflection point in between traditional venture capital and private equity. L.T. and WestCap have leveraged their collective operating knowledge to invest in a number of industry leaders, including two industry defining companies in private markets, iCapital and Addepar. They’ve also invested in the likes of SIMON, which was acquired by iCapital, GoodLeap, Sharegain, Klarna, Paxos, AccessFintech, Treasury4, Hopper, Avenue One, StubHub, and more.L.T. and I had a fascinating conversation that took us to a number of places. We discussed:Stories from building Blackstone.The deeper meaning behind Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman’s comment “scale is our niche” and how “scale begets skill.”Insights L.T. and the Blackstone team had around working with the wealth channel that enabled them to transform how Blackstone and the industry worked with private wealth.Why the realization that at Blackstone, they weren’t selling to the end investor but that they were selling to the financial advisor was such a critical insight as they worked with the wealth channel.What it means to transform Blackstone from a firm into a business.Parallels and patterns L.T. took from building and investing in foundation market infrastructure businesses at Merrill Lynch and Blackstone to how they are investing in private markets at WestCap.L.T.’s learnings from a focus on customer experience and simplifying the product at Airbnb.What’s the unlock for alternatives that harmonizes the industry?Why consortium is a “bad word” but why standardization will be so critical to the next phase of private markets.Why private equity firms have the best business models in finance.The difference between being in the business of building their business between being in the business of building your business and what L.T. is trying to accomplish at WestCap.Why L.T. believes in the partnership model for alternative asset managers and why he believes that’s an enduring model.L.T., thanks so much for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your wisdom, experience, and deep industry knowledge from being a pioneer in private markets.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode dives deep into one of the fastest growing independent wealth platforms in the US — Sanctuary Wealth — and how alternatives is a major ingredient to the growth of their firm and the RIA space more broadly.We have Sanctuary’s MD and Head of Alternative Investments, Patrick McGowan, and Director of Strategic Partnerships, Oksana Poznak, on the show to discuss why they believe alternative investments are a key driver of their growth and why they are so important to the development of advisor’s practices.Patrick and Oksana both bring valuable perspectives on private markets to bear.Patrick was previously a SVP and Head of Product Management at Azimut Alternative Capital Partners, the NY based GP stakes arm of Azimut Group, one of the largest independent wealth management companies in the world. This background gives him a great understanding of the GP stakes world, where he's spent a bunch of time thinking about this in terms of how it relates to the wealth channel. Prior to Azimut, Patrick was part of the Invesco Private Capital team, the $1B PE and VC arm of Invesco, where he focused on their efforts for CalSTRS SMA and a fund of funds that invested in a number of high-performing, generally smaller and emerging managers. He also worked at OC Private Capital, a JV between Carlyle and OppenheimerFunds, the advisor to a $1B close-ended interval fund focused on private credit. Prior to this role, he was a Senior Director at AI Insight, which was acquired by iCapital. He started his career at OppenheimerFunds and then worked at Altegris Investments, which was a pioneer in bringing alts to the wealth channel.Oksana brings over 20 years of experience in business development, marketing, and relationship management to Sanctuary. She was most recently Segment Marketing Director at CAIS, where she promoted alternative investment fund managers. Prior to CAIS, she held senior positions at Atria Wealth Solutions, BNY Mellon Pershing, Ladenburg Thalman, and Advisor Group.We had a fascinating discussion about the intersection of wealth and alts. We discussed: What it will take to grow Sanctuary to a $100B Super RIA.Why the wealth channel is so interested in alternatives.Why alternative asset managers are interested in working with the wealth channel.How alternative asset managers can best approach working with and educating the wealth channel.The biggest mistake alternative asset managers make when trying to work with the wealth channel.How smaller funds can partner with wealth advisors.Thanks Patrick and Oksana for coming on the show to share your thoughts and wisdom about the intersection of wealth and alts. We hope you enjoy.

Welcome to the 7th episode of a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream.Here's the latest episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a live conversation in studio with Lawrence Calcano, the Chairman & CEO of iCapital, who as the leader of a platform that is responsible for the majority of individual and advisor-led investment flows into the alts space, has his finger on the pulse of what's happening in private markets.On this episode, Lawrence and I had a fascinating and lively discussion. We covered:Why are chemistry and collaboration key for the next wave of private markets?How is solving distribution challenges like solving logistics challenges?What does the “Amazon-ification” of private markets mean?What does it mean to meet advisors at their point of need?What parallels can we draw from internet 1.0 to the growth in private markets today?How can the industry deliver tools to help advisors create holistic portfolios with alts at the start?What’s more important - the “fin” or the “tech” in “fintech?”Thanks Lawrence for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s conversation!

A few weeks ago, the tables were turned and I sat down with David Weisburd of the 10X Capital Podcast to talk about the ongoing transformation of private markets.The wealth channel is becoming a centerpiece of the LP universe. Every alternative asset manager either has — or has to have — a strategy for working with the wealth channel in today’s private markets.We discussed:Why the wealth channel will become a prominent LP for many funds over time.How infrastructure solutions like iCapital are enabling the wealth channel to efficiently access private markets.Why GP staking will become part of the LP solution set for their exposure to private markets.Thanks David for having me on your show to discuss how private markets are rapidly changing before our eyes.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.On today’s episode, we travel around the world of hospitality investing. We talk with Carlos Rodriguez Jr., the Founder, President, and COO of Driftwood Capital, one of the US’s leading hospitality sponsors with over $3B in hospitality assets under management. They’ve found a way to do both the traditional things in real estate investing and development well and compliment that with an innovative strategy to bring over 1,200 accredited investors on their platform as they find ways to improve how sponsors can access deals and capital.Carlos and I had a fascinating discussion about real estate and private markets. We covered:How hospitality investing was impacted by Covid and how Driftwood weathered the storm.Lessons learned from operating through Covid.Why location, location, location rings true in real estate investing.How the millennial traveler and work from home have impacted hospitality investing.The most surprising things in real estate investing over the past few years.How technology is impacting real estate investing.Thanks Carlos for coming on the show to share your insights and wisdom about hospitality investing. We hope you enjoy.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.On today’s show, we welcome a senior member of the team at the world’s 3rd largest alternatives manager. Tyler Jayroe is a MD and Portfolio Manager in the Private Equity Group at J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which manages over $2.4 trillion of assets on behalf of a diverse group of global institutions and individual investors. Tyler’s team, the Private Equity Group, has a 40 year history of investing across private markets, covering the alternative investment spectrum and investing over $42B of capital. Tyler helps spearhead a team that invests into funds, co-investments, and secondaries across private equity, growth equity, and venture fund strategies.Tyler and I had a fascinating conversation about how an industry behemoth allocates capital across funds and strategies. We discussed:What they look for when investing into funds.Why middle market private equity is an area they have focused on.The opportunity for secondaries in the current market.The differences between a first time investor and a first time fund manager.What a scalable and replicable process really means when it comes to evaluating fund managers.Thanks Tyler for coming on the podcast to share your deep experience in private markets. Hope you enjoy.Contact JPMorgan Distribution Services, Inc. at 1-800-480-4111 for a fund prospectus. You can also visit us at www.jpmorganfunds.com. Investors should carefully consider the investment objectives and risks as well as charges and expenses of the mutual fund before investing. The prospectus contains this and other information about the mutual fund. Read the prospectus carefully before investing.This document is a general communication being provided for informational purposes only. 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Unlike open-end funds (commonly known as mutual funds), which generally permit redemptions on a daily basis, the Shares will not be redeemable at a Shareholder’s option. Unlike stocks of listed closed-end funds, the Shares are not listed, and are not expected to be listed, for trading on any securities exchange, and the Fund does not expect any secondary market to develop for the Shares in the foreseeable future. The Fund’s private market investments will be illiquid and typically cannot be transferred or redeemed for a substantial period of time. The Shares are designed for long-term investors, and the Fund should not be treated as a trading vehicle.Repurchase of Shares RiskAlthough the Board may, in its sole discretion, cause the Fund to offer to repurchase outstanding Shares at their net asset value and the Adviser intends to recommend that, in normal market circumstances, the Board conducts quarterly repurchase offers of no more than 5% of the Fund’s net assets. 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Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.On today’s show, we welcome a long-time VC investor who brings the perspective from both sides of the pond. Fred Destin, the founder of Stride VC, a seed fund operating out of London and currently investing out of its second £123M fund, shares his views on the venture capital industry.Prior to Stride, Fred was a General Partner at Accel and Accomplice (fka Atlas Venture). He’s invested in some of venture’s big winners, including Deliveroo, Pillpack, Cazoo, Zoopla, Secret Escapes, Integral Ad Science, and more, generating over $1.4B in value to investors and a blended multiple in excess of 7x. Fred has been featured on the Forbes European Midas List a number of times. Fred and I had a fascinating conversation about the hows and the whys of early-stage venture. We discussed:How VCs can navigate the difference between decision points and discovery zones.Why a positive bias towards people can be a driver of returns in venture.Why venture capital is often a poor experience for founders.Why trust, truth, and empathy make for a strong and enduring founder relationship.Why Fred thinks that the most product of a venture capital organization is decisions.Why. and how simplicity can be core to company-building.How to evaluate risk versus reward at early-stage.How younger investors can hone their craft.The future of early-stage venture.Thanks Fred for coming on the podcast to share your wisdom on early-stage investing.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.On today’s show, we welcome a veteran of venture, a champion of portfolio concentration, a master of micro VC. Chris Douvos has taken a mosaic of experiences as an allocator at both endowments and funds that worked on behalf of institutional investors to found Ahoy Capital in 2018, an intentionally right-sized firm focused on working with smaller, emerging VC managers. A pioneering investor in the micro VC movement, Chris has been a mainstay in venture capital for decades. At Ahoy, he discovers and partners with smaller VC funds to help drive returns for his LPs, being seen as a “bird dog in the Valley” for many institutional investors who lack the access, network, and knowledge of the early-stage venture landscape to Chris’s degree.Chris has been embedded in the venture world for years, dating back to the early 2000s. Prior to Ahoy Capital, Chris spearheaded investment efforts at Venture Investment Associates and The Investment Fund for Foundations. He initially learned the craft of private markets investing at Princeton’s University endowment, although he earned his BA and MBA from Yale.Chris and I had such a fun discussion about venture and the emerging VC landscape. We discussed:How the business of venture has changed.Why there’s always room for a Bugatti when the market has a lot of Fords and Toyotas.What he learned from Doug Leone at Sequoia in his early days as an allocator at Princeton and how it’s informed how he invests today.Why it’s tough to be a midsized fund in today’s venture market.Why he believes that concentration is key as a LP – and that diversification can lead to “diworseification.”Why he believes smaller fund sizes can lead to outperformance.Thanks Chris for coming on the podcast to share your wisdom and lessons learned from decades in venture.

Welcome to the 6th episode of a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream.Here’s the latest episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a live conversation in studio with Lawrence Calcano, the Chairman & CEO of iCapital, who as the leader of a platform that is responsible for the majority of individual and advisor-led investment flows into the alts space, has his finger on the pulse of what’s happening in private markets.On this episode, Lawrence and I had a fun and lively discussion. We covered:Will private equity save the day?Why the “educated consumer is the best customer.”Is liquidity the threshold issue of getting more investors to participate in private markets?How 80% of the flows into alts from the wealth channel are currently driven by 20% of the advisor population … and how the next wave of advisors can understand and allocate to alts.How the industry moves from education on alts to education of how alts fit into broader portfolio construction strategies.How do we go from “talk to action” in the allocation of alts.What’s the interplay of technology innovation and product innovation in alts?What is the “technology chassis” for alts?What’s the missing piece from a technology perspective to take alts to the next level?What’s the role that tokenization can play in helping alts go mainstream?Does private markets have its connective tissue?The current status of Michael’s Monthly Bracelet Pulse, featuring Eintracht Frankfurt and Angel City FC bracelets.Thanks Lawrence for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s conversation!

Welcome to the 5th episode of a collaboration between iCapital x Alt Goes Mainstream.Here’s the latest episode of the Monthly Alts Pulse, a live conversation in studio with Lawrence Calcano, the Chairman & CEO of iCapital, who as the leader of a platform that is responsible for the majority of individual and advisor-led investment flows into the alts space, has his finger on the pulse of what’s happening in private markets.On this episode, Lawrence and I had a fun and lively discussion. We covered:How interest in alts is growing around the world.What Lawrence learned on his trips to Europe, LatAm, and Asia meeting with advisors, private banks, and GPs across those respective regions.Why each region has its own unique challenges, in large part due to different regulatory structures and wealth management market structures.How to build a global alts business while simultaneously tailoring the culture and client experience to specific client demands.Why global, brand name fund managers may resonate in different parts of the world.Why advisors are very focused on products right now that have a “modicum of liquidity.”Stories and anecdotes from Lawrence’s conversations at an event they hosted with over 200 advisors in LatAm through iCapital’s partnership with Unicorn Strategic Partners.Why being on the ground to understand different cultures and ecosystems is so important to learning and building the right organic feedback loops to structure solutions in private markets.Thanks Lawrence for a great episode … looking forward to next month’s conversation!

Today’s show brings us inside the mind of a top allocator and CIO in the private wealth world.We talk with Shannon Saccocia, the CIO of Neuberger Berman Private Wealth, a division of NB that has almost $70B of assets under management. With over 24 years of experience, Shannon brings a wealth of knowledge on private markets to bear. At NB Wealth, she works closely with investment leadership to establish market views, asset allocation, and portfolio recommendations tailored specifically for NB Private Wealth clients.Prior to joining NB, she was the CIO for 5 years at SVB Private and Boston Private Wealth, which SVB acquired in July 2021. In this capacity, she oversaw all investment management functions, including portfolio construction, asset allocation, third-party manager selection, equity and fixed income portfolio management, performance and trading.Shannon and I had a fascinating conversation on the evolution of private markets and how both allocators and GPs can think about this changing landscape. We discussed:The definition of alts and what “true alternatives” are.The changing nature of asset allocation and why alts are such a critical part of an investors’ portfolio.The evolution of fees and what investors should be paying for.Why specialized managers can win.The importance of geopolitics and macro in a world where deglobalization has an increasing impact on asset allocation.Why secondaries are an important onramp to private markets for the HNW channel.What it means to get comfortable with being uncomfortable as an investor.What the institutional investor world can learn from HNW investors.Thanks Shannon for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your thoughts and wisdom on private markets.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s show dives into the collision of culture, sports, and finance. We talk with Chase Griffin, a student-athlete and QB at UCLA, who has become a pioneer in the college athletics Name Image Likeness (NIL) movement and is the 2x winner of the NIL Male Athlete of the Year awards from the NIL Summit and Opendorse.Chase has excelled on and off the field, so he’s no stranger to success. In high school, he was the Texas Gatorade Player of the Year, and he turned down Ivy League offers to commit to UCLA. At UCLA, he’s played behind NFL draft pick Dorian Thompson-Robinson and put up strong performances on the field. Off the field, he’s been a leader in the NIL movement and an exemplary scholar-athlete, to the point where his coach at UCLA, Chip Kelly, has said, “if you could buy stock in a human, buy stock in Chase Griffin.”Chase has deftly navigated the rapidly changing landscape of the NIL to secure over 30 NIL brand deals and launched the community / charity giving platform #NILforGood. He recently joined Range Media Partners as Athlete/Creator in Residence and contributes to Range business operations across Sports, NIL, Film, TV, Music, and Social Impact.Chase and I had a fascinating discussion about how the NIL could change college sports as we know it and how it will coincide with more investment into college athletics. At a time when private equity firms are investing into companies that are part of the developing NIL ecosystem and possibly even investing into collegiate athletics conferences, Chase shares his views on the impact that the NIL and financialization of sports has on athletes, colleges, pro sports, and broader student bodies.Congrats on all the accomplishments in your young career thus far, Chase. Thanks for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your experiences and wisdom on the NIL.

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.On today’s show, we bring the institutional family office perspective to private markets. We talk with Jamie Rhode, a Principal at Verdis Investment Management. Verdis is a single family office based in Philadelphia that was built on the rich legacy of the family, a major business family, that has spanned over three centuries.At Verdis, Jamie is focused on venture capital, private equity, and hedge fund investment sourcing and due diligence. She joined Verdis from Bloomberg, where she held roles in both equity research and credit analysis. Verdis is an active investor in the venture capital ecosystem, leveraging a data-driven investment approach that Jamie spearheads to allocate to mainly smaller and emerging managers. They’ve taken a very thoughtful approach to asset allocation, particularly venture, and have had a number of valuable insights on asset allocation come out of that process.Jamie and I had a fascinating discussion about the allocator’s perspective on venture capital and smaller fund managers.We discussed:Why Jamie believes that 90% of investment returns come from asset allocation strategy.Why smaller funds often drive the best returns.Why illiquidity and duration are so critical to producing outsized returns, with Verdis finding that the last 20% of the hold period of a fund producing 46% of the returns.Why Verdis believes in the strength of the YC network.The perfect fund size and portfolio construction.Why former operators may not make the best fund managers in Jamie’s view.Thanks Jamie for coming on the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast to share your wisdom and data-driven perspectives.