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Now you got to break 90.We appreciate what you guys do for golf.It's been really cool.Thank you.You're making it cool.We appreciate it.
I was like, hey, Phil, you owe me fucking $29.99.And he grabs $100.He's like, yeah, I won $90,000 of these yesterday.He goes, take $100,000 and go fuck yourself.
What?What are you guys doing?It's not a hobby.
Foreplay presented by Barstool Sports.We got a big guest.We got Nico.Let me get it right again.Echevarria.It looks like
Echevarria, I think I've said it like that before, but I went, I grinded over the highlights to make sure that I could get it right.It is Echevarria is how you say his name.So Nico joins the show.We've had him on before.
He's a foreplay guy, which he kind of showcases during the show, which I always love.He likes listening to the show.He compliments us on you know, kind of what we do, which makes me immediately fully endeared to him.And I love him forever.
But he just won over in the Zozo.We go through all those, all the details of his win, um, his life coming from Columbia, winning on the PGA tour a couple of times.He played the masters for the first time.
Um, this next spring, uh, we talk sports in general.So, uh, fantastic guests.So stick around, Nico talked to him for like an hour.
So I felt a little bit bad because he was supposed to do some interviews and we just kept them too long, but it was still a great interview.So, Last hour of the show is Nico.Right now you've got us.Happy Halloween, boys.
When the show comes out, it's spookiest day of the year.
Yeah.Very exciting.I love Halloween.I am pretty underprepared in terms of candy for the house.I hope Hannah has that set.I've been so damn busy going into the city with these Yankee games.We'll get into that.
Just the funniest shit I've ever seen in professional sports.And then we have pop punk this weekend.
If you're listening to this and you're in New Haven, if you're in New York, Long Island, I'm taking the ferry over actually Friday morning, so there's really no excuse to not be able to get to New Haven.I'm hitting Sally's a pizza at 12 o'clock.
We're hit.We got a huge crew.I got a big support group coming to New Haven.I got like 12 people coming from Long Island all the way up to New Haven. Tickets are still available.It's a big venue.It's Toad's Place.
It's a historically incredible music venue.So if you're in the New Haven area, if the Yankees are in game six, we're playing the Yankee game behind me on the drums on the big screen.
So it'd be like going to a bar to go watch the Yankees in the World Series while also having a sick show of all the barstool people playing music.It's going to be a lot of fun, so make sure you go check it out.It's Pup Punk New Haven.
Click the link however you're going to get there.Just type in Pup Punk New Haven. I'll see you there on Friday.But yes, Halloween, it's gonna be a costume contest.So I'm very excited to get you know, you guys know, I love that shit.
I wore like a woody costume during streaming a couple years ago for Halloween.So I'm a big Halloween guy.I'm a big just get into like the actual holiday guy, like really dive in deep.
Yeah, I candy.I've got I'm in this house now in Florida.I live in a neighborhood.I got to get candy.You guys just remind me.So I don't want it.I don't want the little kitties coming to my house disappointed.
I don't have any candy, so I'm going to have to do that.But happy Halloween, everybody.
You know, I'm going to be in Piners Village on Halloween night. I don't know if there's a lot of kids running around Piner's Village, you know?I think it's kind of drinking resort guests and retired folk is kind of what I think there are.
I might have a little bit of candy in my throat.
You have some grandkids visiting their grandparents?What kind of candy are you going to give out?
I mean, it's a big question, right?Obviously, a pretty good mixed bag.I'm going to go with a couple of my favorites are the little mini Kit Kats, the little mini Nestle Crunch.I feel like that's a couple chocolates already. I've never done that part.
I don't really know.I'm trying to think back to what I would have like scoffed at.And obviously I want to avoid those when you walk away from home.
That's like, and you guys know how much I love this candy, but they have them in little Halloween sizes now is the nerd gummy clusters coming in these mini bags.
Now you toss them a Hershey's bar, just a classic Hershey's bar, and you throw them a little gummy cluster. You know, I'm talking that is nice.I'm also a fan of salty and sweet.
So you throw a little salt in there, maybe like a nice like I know this may sound like old man stuff, but you throw them like those little packets of the sourdough pretzels.You know, those like round sourdough pretzels.
I think they're called sourdough pretzels.
No, I don't know what this is.
No you don't know what i'm talking about you're giving up pretzels on halloween but like you do that and then chocolate it's almost a combo.
I'm telling you it's it's a nice combination of that salty and sweet you can you read a lot of chocolate and a lot of sugar and a lot of all the same type of stuff you get that crunch in you with the salt i'm telling you goes a long way.
I mean i watch frank the tank yesterday take actual packets of salt and drum in his mouth last night so goes a long way salt great i'm a little worried like but i don't know that you're.
what you give out gets consumed in your package, the way that you meet.Doesn't it kind of just all gets thrown in their Halloween bag?
It does, but it's just nice to get them.Yeah, these little Sniders.
I like the picture of Frankie giving the kids a lecture on how to eat the candy.
They're like, you got to eat this right now.Oh, Sniders.I know Sniders, but I've never seen the Sourdough.They're incredible.The crunch.
I mean, I like a good, a Reese's peanut butter cup.I like a good Snickers.Um, yep.Yeah.I'll probably just, yeah.I, the only thing I don't like is an almond joy.Not a coconut fan.I'm not a coconut man.
Um, Snickers, I think, I think Snickers is the number one for me.I think a Snickers is the greatest Halloween, like a little mini, a mini Snickers that you can just pop in there.The whole thing's in your mouth.Probably right.
I also love a Butterfinger.
whole things in your mouth.It's good.This is delicious.
Anyway, happy Halloween.An overweight golfer who can't break 85.
I got to, uh, I do want to dress up tomorrow.I'm going to be flying in the, in for most of the day.And then maybe I'll try to stop at a store on the way.And can you just kind of, can I just feel it out at the store?
Is that, do you have to have a kind of a whole plan?
Feel it out.Yeah, you can feel it out.I'm going to feel it out.Buy what they got, you know.
I do want to go to dinner, go to Lisi Italian tomorrow night in Pinus Village, one of my favorite restaurants.And I want to go to dinner in a costume.That's my goal tomorrow night.
I don't think I'm going to dress up.I just don't think I'm going to.
I haven't dressed up in years.And I remember making a deal with myself a couple months ago when Halloween got on my radar, and I said, I'm dressing up this year.So I do.I want to get something.
You're in the right setting.It's, it's fun to really just dive deep into it.You just take over a character kind of everyone's in costumes.I'm not shitting on it.
I'm for it.You guys are doing a group, a costume for, uh, new Haven.
Yeah, we're doing a group one.So that'll be fun.Um, Robby and Nick Hamilton like went to go get them and they said that a New York City Halloween store on like Tuesday before Halloween was the craziest place they've ever seen.
I'm just costumes everywhere.People going nuts getting ready for the.There's a huge parade that goes down Manhattan.I think it was right down like 7th Avenue.The Halloween parade, so it's it's quite the time.New York City is.
I don't even know if you need a parade in New York City for it to feel like Halloween chaos right now.Some guys spit on my window.I talk about that with Nico nuts.That place is nuts.
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You know what else is nuts?New York Yankees.The Bronx was on fire last night.Yeah.I mean just absolutely destroying the Los Angeles Dodgers.The bats awaken and it all happened.They're down to nothing.Freddie fucking Freeman.
This guy, if this guy sees another fastball in the first inning, I'm going to lose my fucking mind. Stop throwing to this guy.Walk him.Do whatever you have to do to not let him hit.He has six consecutive World Series games with a home run.
Stop letting him do that.But then it's also, it's like, when is he going to stop?Like, you got to just keep throwing him fastballs and be like, I was arguing with this with Tommy where I was like, it's not that easy to hit home runs.
Like, you know, even the best players of all time don't do it every game.So, like, at some point, you got to throw him a fastball and he's just going to pop out three times.But he's not.
He's hitting he's hitting massively huge game starting to run three run grand slams.It's it's unheard of what this man is doing.It's historical, really.
Baseball's weird.I wouldn't tempt fate.You got to walk him.
You're thinking you can't do it again tonight.
The first thing I thought when I saw that, I said, why are they not just walking this guy?It is an outrageous take.I think, like, just go look at the numbers.Nobody.
I mean, he's just going to he's going to get out all the time, but he's just he's just seven times out of ten.
And then you're a Hall of Famer.Baseball's weird.Yeah.So we got I mean, so the vibes are down, you know, they're about to get swept to nothing. Then an angel was sent from above on the first baseline.
You got these two absolute goon balls Just just just goombas just complete Italian Psychopaths who have season tickets.
They've been there forever these guys by the way They are a part of the famous gift if you type in like Yankee fans There's this gift where there's these two guys smack in the side of the wall and it's just the most Italian they're wearing like open
unbuttoned Yankee jerseys and they're leaning over the right field wall, over the foul wall, and they're just nailing the padding.It's those two guys.They've been going to games for years.
People found out on Twitter yesterday, all he does is he tweets at Pornhub and Tommy Smokes for for the short porch, like just like arguing with the short porch and loving the short porch.Just the ultimate, the ultimate dude.
Um, he rips a ball out of, out of fucking Mookie Betts his glove.It's the funniest thing I've ever seen in sport.
People were writing to me like, of course you would find this classless scum to be entertaining.Like someone could, someone could have gotten hurt out there.Fuck you.
fuck you and fuck you fuck you and the horse you rode in on or whatever that fucking saying is like if you can't find a man grabbing the glove of an all-star outfielder during the world series and prying it open like he's trying to get a ball out of a dog's mouth like
And then acting like, Oh yeah, he dropped it.Like she's like looking around being like, he fucking dropped it.And it all being in four K slow motion where we can dissect every moment of it.
It's the funniest thing I've ever seen in professional sports.It really is.
And his buddy not shoving him away being like, this is crazy what you're doing here to Mookie bets.He goes on the offensive and grabs Mookie bets his wrist. And is like, no, no, no.Get that ball out of there, man.Come on.
There was a moment where Mookie Betts was suspended in the air by this guy.I mean, he could have like broken his wrist.Like he was suspended over the, over the wall as this man tried to pry.Look, this picture is unbelievable.
These pictures are out of control and everyone around them is kind of watching them.This looks like an SNL skit.They look like they're on a set.
I think it probably will be an SNL skit.Now you mentioned it.
Dude, they are so stereotypically Yankee fans.He's got the black fitted hat on his fan.His friend is reaching in like they understood the assignment.They're like, we've got no energy in this building.There's nothing.They're dead.
They're about to get swept. If this ball comes to me, we're not letting him catch it.Like, we can't afford an out right now.That's literally what they were thinking, if you think about it.They're like, we can't make an out.
We need to, like, get a rally going.If this comes to us, we need to knock it out of his glove.And even if he catches it, we have to pry it open and throw it behind us and act like he didn't catch it, as if there's no cameras.It worked.
Did it not work?Dude, it did work.What a spark.Unfortunately, it was the highlight of the series for the Yankees up until that point.Like, there was no pop. right?Like John Carl Stanton, like, yes, like there was things.
Soto hit a home run earlier in the series.Like there were moments, but like we were getting our fucking asses kicked.We had no chance.They had one hit through eight innings in game fucking three of the world series.
Like they had nothing going and all of a sudden you have that moment and you just know something's going to change and it did. The Yankees just like rallied off what 11 runs.I say like it changed.
I don't know if the players knew that it changed, but the energy in the building changed.Those guys got a standing ovation as they walked out.They got escorted out of the fucking out of the stadium.
Oh, if this goes the way, if this goes the Yankees way, they got to be on the parade float.
The problem that I had with it was like Fox wasn't going all in on it.Like how come for better or worse, you can spin it however you want.Like I'm always going to find it to be funny and incredible.
Other people will say it's classless and scummy and like of course Yankee fans would do it.You're the lowest class organization in sports.You're a bunch of fucking Italian losers.
I'm finding it to be just funny and I just find the humor and all of it.Like I think if you're a huge dump in your pants, if you can't find that to be funny, Um, but the, but Fox didn't even show it.Like they didn't go back and show the replays.
They didn't go and show the player, the guys getting kicked out.But then you have like Jeffrey Mayer and you've got, um, um, I was in for Halloween.Uh, the Cubs, um, Very Kerry Bart Bartman.You've got Bartman Bartman.
You've got Bartman like these are historically important Characters in baseball history.
I know that they had actual implications into the game and the results of the game But like you got it, you got to make that a storyline like they just acted like those guys didn't exist That's crazy to me You can spin it as a negative but you you have to show it that has to be the highlight of the game at that moment
I'm sure they're viewing it through the lens of just like when somebody runs on the field, like don't show it, don't motivate it.Don't don't, you don't want people doing this in the future.I'm not saying that this is my side of it.I'm with you.
I thought it was great.It's a great baseball moment.It's a historical baseball moment, especially if they push this thing to seven game, whatever happens, but it's a moment that's going to live on in history.
But I, you know, the side of like the network, they're like, well, we don't want to motivate people jumping and ripping players hands.
We know those other guys like names.They're like, they're, they're folklore legends.Like they are, they're these names are like, can you believe that happened in a baseball game?Like, this is as crazy as that. really opened up the fucking glove.
I've never seen anything like it.
The other stuff is accidental.Like Bartman wasn't.He didn't mean to affect the play.He was just like, oh shit, I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time.These guys, dude, him trying to rip the ball.It's just different.
So I'm with you, but I can see why Fox is like, we don't really want to motivate.
Their point is like, we cannot have it where we're saying, if you do something this psychotic, we will make you famous and popular and part of our TV coverage.Like, no, we can't have that.But it was stunning.
It was one of the most stunning things I think I've ever seen.And they did.I mean, when they first started showing the slow-mo, you couldn't believe how relentless Their effort was relentless.
They weren't like, oh my God, we accidentally found ourselves in this spot. we're here.We're digging in.We're not going anywhere.We got, we got work to do.
It was like they had pre-planned it.Like when this glove ends up on my lap, I'm not letting it go.It's like, you ain't getting this ball.You're not getting this ball no matter how hard you try.It's so good, man.
And knowing that those guys have had season tickets and like, they've been waiting for that moment for a long time.Like In the World Series, the spark that we needed, man, I actually have like I'm laughing.
I like I'm holding back such an outrageous laugh that I actually have tears forming in my eyes right now.I think that's the funniest thing that's ever happened in sports.
I know you guys are.I mean, it's tough.These games are like right in a row.So when we record the game five is already the series could be over right now, which is so annoying.Give me a little bit of a break so we can talk about it.
But I know tonight in the past you're watching with Francesa.If Tommy Smokes knows these two guys, bring them to the office.
I know I feel probably be at the game unless they're banned for life.That would be insane.
I you think they can go right back?
I don't know.Maybe.I don't know.I'll be stunned if they're there on the if they're there on the sideline there.But Francesca is going to be in the building tonight.That's crazy moment.
Like I might even call my dad and be like, do you want to come watch this game with us?Because that is a dream. Like Mike Francesa for people in the late 90s in the early 2000s.
I mean this guy this guy is like every New York sports fan went to him to just hear his take on the Yankees and on the Giants and on the like this was this was the take that you just wanted to hear whether you agreed with him or you didn't you wanted to hear his opinion.
And you also like always had this vision of like, what is he like when he actually watches the games?Like there would be pictures of him at Citi Field or Yankee Stadium or like a Rangers game.You're like, Frances is watching the sport.
Like, is he like, is he like, what's his take going to be tomorrow?And we get to sit here during a World Series game and watch The Yankees take on the Dodgers and listen to him like dissect the game.And does he get excited?Does he get angry?
Does he call people out like this?
It sounds stupid, but like to guys that have spent their whole sport watching lives like wondering about this guy and really like listening to him as if as if he is the Pope, like he is the sports vote to be able to sit next to him.
I think I'm sitting behind him.I'm like I'm going to grab his shoulders and be like we had a home run.This is going to be.This is so surreal.This is a surreal moment.
Like being in the room with a great inventor when they're inventing something to be here with thomas edison it's like what's how does he go about it what's his process wow, people will hate this comparison but it'd be it'd be like a sitting in a room with a broken ex-president like, watching like like war stories or something like like all like,
like, or like watching something unfold in the nation, like an election or something like, right?Like, what is like, what are you thinking right now?Like, as these votes are coming in, like where, like, this is Francesa watching the world series.
We get to ask him questions about like historical world series and like who he thinks this is comparing to and like where he was when the Yankees won in 99, 2000, like where, like, it's, this is it.This is for me.This is everything.
This is everything.He's a legend. I gotta bring my dad tonight.Me and my dad would run into the car after, like, like if
In the mornings, we would, well, he would pick me up from school and then, like, Mac and the Mad Dog would be on right there because it would always be in the afternoon.Good afternoon, everybody.And then I would always just sit in the car longer.
We would be sitting in our driveway just listening to Mike Francis and the Mad Dog for no reason at all.Like, I'm 11 year old kid just sitting in like an old Nissan just in our driveway instead of going inside and playing with toys.
We're just listening to these two men babble about sports.So I can't wait tonight.I cannot wait.
I had a little DraftKings over bet last night, so shout out to DraftKings.That was fun.That was nice.It always feels good.
I had a crazy bet last night.I, I was like getting kind of hot on these next pitch bets where you could bet like ball or strike.
You start to get a feel for like when the ball, like a pitching change comes in and the, you know, the Dodgers are down by six.This guy's coming in.He doesn't want to give another run.He's going to throw a sweeper away.It's going to be a ball.
It's plus one 25.We hit it.We go nuts in the ninth inning.I bet the New York Yankees pitcher on the third pitch was going to throw a ball over 92 and a half miles per hour.Right.So the first this is on the DraftKings Sportsbook.So cool.
On the first two pitches, he's like 93 mile an hour, like sinker outside.And then on the third pitch, we're like, oh, shit, he's going with the change up for sure.It was a one in one count.He had thrown two pretty fastballs.
And we're like, there's no chance he brings the heat here.And all of a sudden he threw this like 95 mile an hour fastball way out of the zone.And the guy just tipped it off and we went nuts, nuts.
So if there is still a game tonight or tomorrow when you're listening to this, and the Yankees won last night because we are living in the past right now, you have to go on the DraftKings Sportsbook and you have to figure out how to get these vets in because they are fun.
They are so much fun.I love them.
Yeah, Trap Kings, it really does make it fun.So shout to there being a million runs last night, because that was fun for me too.It can be exhausting following the countless rules and regulations of golf.
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We got to talk about some, uh, the PGA tour released a bunch of new policy, um, potential changes that have to now get approved by the policy board.Uh, Just combing through some of the quick hitters.Basically, they're going to reduce field sizes.
They're going to kind of reduce exemption statuses.The number of PGA Tour cards that can be obtained each season through the Corn Fairy Tour and the Q School.And they're going to make some changes to the pace of play.
uh policy uh the big ones are just like they're going to reduce the max field size from 156 to 144 other fields are going to reduce from 132 to 120 players um they're claiming it's due to darkness they said 28 of tournaments uh in 2024 12 out of the 43 had at least one round that wasn't completed on the scheduled day due to darkness um so they're going on and saying that obviously less players in the field
um will allow them to get everyone through without there being issues pace of play wise for darkness they're going to reduce corn fairy tour cards so if you recall like a month ago we had our boy alistair and he was just right on the right on the brink came down to two guys had putts in the last hole of the entire year in the corn fairy tour if just one of them missed he gets his tour card because he would have finished inside the top 30 they're going to reduce those cards from 30 to 20 um
And then they're also going to reduce right now if you finish top 125 on the PGA Tour, you keep your PGA Tour card for the following year.They're going to reduce that from 125 to just the top 100.
So essentially, they're going to make it way harder for people that are on the Korn Ferry Tour, for people that are trying to make it, for guys like our guy Alster.And they're going to reduce field sizes and all that.
You know, one of my big gripes with this whole thing, and a lot of it comes, honestly, it's like driving me crazy with watching golf now that I've been watching baseball in the World Series, is how much these changes in baseball have dramatically increased the viewing experience of the game.
And man, I haven't really watched a full baseball game all year long until the World Series.It's just not my big thing.The Cardinals kind of sucked this year, so wasn't that into it?Watching these games is laughable at how fast it is.
It's laughable at how quickly they go pitch to pitch to pitch. And it is laughable how much more of an enjoyable experience it is just watching the action.We are lunatics.We have entertainment at the tip of our fingers all day, all night.
Our attention spans are minimal.TikTok has taken over everything.Twitter, we don't read any articles now.We just read like fucking a sentence on Twitter.We have no attention spans whatsoever.We need action.
The fact that the game moves so much faster in baseball because of this, um, the counter and the pitch clock and how much time that you have makes me so upset that they're like, we're going to cut how many people are involved basically at the highest level of professional golf and have a chance to play on the BGA tour.
We're going to cut the amount of people.We're going to cut Monday qualifiers, which is fucking outrageous.They're going to cut out Monday qualifiers for events that don't have 156 people.They're going to limit the amount of sponsors exemptions.
They're going to limit the amount of people that have the chance to play on the PGA Tour and create a career for themselves.And they're arguing it's because of darkness and pace of play.Just be fucking stricter on pace of play.
I just don't I don't get it.I'm going through and I'm looking and they've got all this time and we watch guys take first. ever to hit shots and then we hear about these rounds.
I was looking it's like they're claiming that like groups of four must play an 18 hole round in four hours and 21 minutes while groups of three must play in four hours and three minutes.
These US Open rounds at some of these big tournaments rounds where they don't get to finish due to bucking darkness. are taking six hours out there.So who the fuck, it's just driving me nuts.
Like if you would just as a, as organization set strict rules on pace of play and enforce them, like guys have to hit shots in 30 seconds.That's what you get.You hit a shot 30 seconds. That's fucking it.
And you get one per nine where you get to get a 60 second extension or something.And every time they violate it, bang, one stroke penalty, bang, one stroke penalty.
Like something aggressive, I think would make a huge difference in the game and wouldn't even need them to do all of this limiting the number of people that are basically going to be able to play in PGA Tour events and have PGA Tour cards.
It's embarrassing for golf that baseball is the model that they should be following baseball.
Historically, one of the slowest moving just won't make any changes, refuses to speed up the game, or they don't want to mess with the history, blah, blah, blah.They finally do.And it's exactly what rigs just said.It worked.
It's a testament to if you speed something up, it's going to work because the attention spans are at point point zero seconds.Nobody's paying attention to anything anymore.
So to ask them to pay attention to a round of golf, that's going to take however many hours is insane.Baseball is a perfect example.Change it, make it better and it can work.They're just scared to, they're scared to do it.
They don't want to like, nobody wants to walk up to a golfer during a professional tournament and be like, Hey, You got a stroke penalty there because you went over the 30 seconds.That's the only reason.That's why all these changes have to happen.
They can say it's because of darkness, but it's because everybody's taking too fucking long.
But it's because people are scared to actually put these rules into effect, even if you have them like say they come up with a rule, but nobody's going to enforce it and it doesn't matter.Then it still takes five hours.
So, yeah, that's really what it comes down to is just enforcing a rule where guys have to speed up.That's it.And if they don't, if they won't do that, then nothing's going to change.
Simply. Come up with a shot clock and enforce it.Simple as that, right?Yes, right.This isn't that crazy.It's not.This isn't.
Bro fucking baseball did it.
Yeah.And I get that baseball is a little bit easier because you're all in one stadium and there's one clock that everyone can see.And it's like, if you don't do this, it's a ball.And if you like, if you don't get into the batter's box, it's a strike.
It's like, it's very simple as opposed to like one guy's looking for his golf ball and he gets in a lot of an amount of time for that.
And like another guy is like going to go up and check, like whatever, like maybe he has a rules question, but there needs to be all these rules in place and everyone just knows them. and just enforce them.
I mean, there's a rules official that follows every single group, right?So no matter how many groups that are out there, they are supposed to be, I guess, monitoring a shot clock or some sort of inner shot clock.
That's like if this guy continues to take way too much time, he's going to get a warning, and then the next time he's going to uh, get assessed a stroke penalty, but like, this should be a very hard set 45 seconds.
Maybe the first time you get a warning and the second time it's like, dude, once the 45 seconds is up, I'm going to come over there and I'm going to say that you got a stroke penalty.I don't think they're going to be able to blow a horn.
Like in baseball, they literally blow, like the umpire will step away and be like, it's a ball.You can't do that in golf.It's not that easy. You know, it's not like it's not not everyone's in one little spot.So that's a little bit more difficult.
They're definitely not.But I also I mean, you're looking there's twenty five million dollar purses each week.The tour is doing about two billion dollars in revenue.
And I think in order to protect and improve your product, it ain't that hard to have somebody that follows along and does a little clock.And even if you don't blow a horn like I was actually thinking about, they should they should eliminate
They should eliminate rules officials being called over, and you simply have to know the rule, execute this incident properly, and if you don't, everything gets reviewed that evening.
Anyone who violated a rule gets whatever stroke penalty is attached to that rule violation, and you move on the next day.In the violation of pace of play, would be included in that.So it's like, we don't have all these pauses.
You don't get to sit there on a typical, where your ball's on a cart path, and they bring the rules official over, they put a T down, they put the driver down.Dude, you know how to take fucking relief from a cart path.
Everybody on planet Earth knows how to do that.They do it every single time.They call the rules official over, Used to be the legend Slugger White, I believe, who would come over to his golf cart with the cowboy hat and do the whole fucking thing.
And they only have however many a few actual rules officials come over.Where did this ball technically cross?Guess what?The way that rule works, you work with your playing partners, you talk to them real quick.
I think it crossed here, this guy thinks it crossed there, we'll compromise, we'll say it crossed there, fine.You know the rule from there, take your drop, hit your shot.
So that part of it drives me crazy as well, where it's like there's just this ingrained, and it used to be in baseball too, this just ingrained pace where you just take your time, Take your time, make sure all that.
And I think that there, if you, if you give people this shot clock, they will just naturally train or change what's ingrained in them.They'll speed up, they'll move faster.They'll play faster.
We talked to Kevin now about it, where he's like, I literally in the off season worked on speeding up my pre-shop routine and my waggle. And then it just became part of my routine.Bang, I play way faster.So I get that golf is different.
It's very hard to police, but it's like you shouldn't have to call a rules official over for everything.Golf's a game where you police yourself.You should know the fucking rules.You should be able to execute them properly.
And if you don't execute them properly in a certain situation, then you get penalized for it.But you don't have to go through the whole thing in real time.You might get penalized for it later.
That's what you get for not knowing the fucking rules or doing something wrong.That's just how the game works.
I'm also open to a trial run first half of the year.You run this, you run the shot clock and you tell guys you would have been, you would have been assessed a stroke penalty here, here, here and here.So then they start to feel it.
And then the second half of the year, you're like, it starts now.So if you fuck this up, now you're getting these stroke penalties that we just did a trial run for the first half of the year.You can't spring it on guys right away.
You got to let them acclimate to it.Like you're saying. But then at some point, you just got to be like, Hey boys, it's now.
And you've sort of gotten a feel for it over the last five or six months, but now we're starting it and now we're off and running.
Yep.And it's, and I, and there's, and they've kind of got the bones of it, but they just don't execute upon it.And it's not considered a particularly serious thing.
Like they, they understand that if you're the first guy that gets to your ball after the tee shots. you are allocated a little bit more time than the others because you just got there.They walk up to theirs.
You're the first guy to go through all theirs while you're hitting.They could go through their process, but there needs to be legitimate consequences for violating this pace.
And they're just simply cannot, like rounds cannot take five plus hours on the PGA tour.They play in threesomes maximum.They play in threesomes.So it's like, how in the fuck can you take that long?It, you know, They're already, they're so good.
That should just be a part of the game.You got to make your calculations.You got to make your decisions quickly.And then you got to step up, hit your shot.Just like a pitcher has to do that.Pitcher has to fucking get that ball back.
They got to communicate with the catcher, figure out what pitch they're going to throw, take their stance of the mound and fucking throw it.
And that's just, and that has changed the product to change the game in what appears to be an incredibly healthy way. I think golf could benefit from the same instead of being like, we need less people playing on the PGA Tour.That's psychotic.
That's like the route that they're going.
Also, from a player's perspective, I get it.If they're not going to enforce it, I'm going to take all the time in the world.Like, if I were a player now, I'd be like, yeah, I'm doing what they allow.
If they're not going to enforce this shit, then I'm going to take advantage of it.If that last little five seconds is the reason why I hit the green or why I miss the green, I'm going to take as much time as I want.So from their angle, I get it.
But there has to be somebody who steps up and says, no, we're enforcing this shit now and players will adjust.I guarantee it.
This is like the MLB saying that the MLB games are taking too long.So we're going to only let seven guys get up at that.
Instead of figuring out how to get through the nine players quicker, they're just taking guys off the roster, which is what they're doing now in the PGA.That just doesn't make any sense.
I mean, the average public golfer gets pushed along faster than a professional golfer.And you would think that it should be the opposite way.
An amateur should know less about his next shot and how to assess it, and should almost take more time trying to figure out how to hit that golf ball close to the hole.A professional knows the game in and out so well.
Like you're saying, they know all the rules, they know all the regulations, they know exactly what shot they're going to hit. They are also peak athletes.
And if you want to start making these guys like, you know, more athletic than having things be more, you know, quick and fast twitching and like thinking on your feet and like having to think under pressure and not having as much time as you want to like settle down, that's going to bring out the best and the best players also.
Yes.And it affects the other players.When guys play extremely slowly, you're affecting the other guy's ability to do the job to the point.
Like Brooks Koepke has brought it up where he's been like, yeah, when I play with certain guys, like there's all kinds of hilarious clips of him.He's rolling his eyes.He's over there trying to like talk to the fucking trees to kill time.
Brian Harman do. on our own show said that the reason he has that insane waggle is because he was playing too fast and was realizing he was getting frustrated waiting for other guys.
And then his brain broke because he continuously kept like thinking of new ways to like come up with a new routine because he was just stepping up and hitting that.
He actually, it turned one of the fastest players in the tour into the slowest player, which is hilarious.Like it's all broken.That's broken.
Yeah, and it's so broken.And I think the reason that it's broken is because not everybody plays by the same parameters.And that's when you get a broken system.
Whereas I think if you allow, if you sort of just allow whatever, which is what they currently do, there's been like a couple penalties in the history of the world.
Is like if you have a parameter and that is 30 seconds or 40 seconds and you actually stick to it and enforce it that everybody's playing by the same rules and therefore everyone's got to perform comparatively to their players the bird to their to their colleagues and their competition.
The best.And right now it's not, it's just not the same.And I agree.You gotta be mentally tough to get through.
If somebody is playing a little bit slow and, and this and that, but it's clearly hurting the product to the point where they're going to cut how many people play in field.It's that big of a thing.
They had whatever that number was, 20 something percent.What was that?28% of tournaments, 28% had at least one round that wasn't completed on the schedule simply due to darkness.They know what time the sun comes up.
They know what time the sun goes down.How in the fuck do you have.
a delay and you have to have rounds be finished the next day because of something that we have known for thousands of years exactly what time it's going to be bright and exactly what time it's going to be dark that is fucking crazy crazy so it's clearly curious to know if they took an average of like say last year they took how long everybody took
to hit a shot.You get that number and what that average is.I like, like, I'm not saying it needs to be 15 seconds.Like it doesn't have to be like, get to the ball.Okay.All right.
Now I'm here and I'm over the ball and I got to hit, it's like, whatever it is now say it's, I don't know, three minutes, then cut it to a minute and a half.
You don't have to put these guys under the gun, but at least put it to a parameter where it's going to cut time off of the tournament.I agree.
And then assess them with that stroke right away so that everyone knows like that immediately. You now have an extra stroke.You made a bogey at the double bogey.Move on to the next hole.And you should not have that warning anymore.
Play faster or else I'll do it again.Simple as that.That's the part they're missing.
And it's clearly an issue. on tour among the players because of this, what we're talking about right here, all of these proposals basically are all due to darkness.
And if you remember the Bryson situation back then, every player was talking about it, every player was harping on it, and it's clearly been an issue.So that's kind of our take on the whole, the new proposals.I'm not a big fan of it.
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Okay, awesome.All right, let's do a little closest to the pin.Weird week, I will say.
It was harder for me to come up with these.There's no golf.
Yeah, that is weird.Is there nothing this week?
Wow, wow.That is shocking.
I looked at every tour. I probably missed one, but the ones that I looked at, there's nothing going on.
It's tough.Um, all right.Last week, last week we had first was total runs in world series game one, nine runs.Frankie and I win that at 10.Yeah, baby.Second one was the ending time of game one, 11 38 PM, which was Trent who had a 11 31.
What did I say on that one?
You said 1123.Yeah.I said 10 something.You said 1057.Yeah.It's not that fast.Hour and a half.Cut this thing out.Let's go.Third was a winner and the margin for Oregon versus Illinois where they dusted them and won by 29.So Trent took that at 31.
Jesus, what did I say in that one?You said 34.So you were four off, or no, yeah, you were five off, he was two off.
Um, and then the last one, we have our first negative points passing guards for Josh Allen at Seattle and Trent got fucked because the bills killed them so bad that Josh didn't play the last three drives.
So, uh, he had 283 yards and, uh, rigs won that and Trent lost two points.I was close.What did I say there?You said 276.Wow.It's pretty much a wash for me.
I won so many points this week that it doesn't matter.
Yeah, you kind of lost him back.Yeah.So final standings right now.61 for Trent, 55 for Alex, 47 for Riggs, and 41 for Frankie.
All right.I got him this week.We'll start off.Iowa football has a new quarterback.I know you guys have been keeping tabs on this.You're very excited about it.
Not Cade McNamara anymore.
Cade McNamara is hurt this week, but it's been a bit of a controversy the last couple weeks just because, you know, Cade seems like a great guy, but hasn't been playing all that well. The new QB one in Iowa city is Brendan Sullivan.
He played a good amount in the last game and he was, he was a shot in the arm for the offense.They scored 40 points, blew them out.It was exciting to watch.
He had this one play where he threw a short pass and then ran in front of the receiver and started blocking for him.And that fired everybody up.My Gary Ryan, very fired up about that.
So, um, Brendan Sullivan, the Iowa Hawkeyes, they play Wisconsin this week. at Kinnick, how many passing yards will the new quarterback of the Iowa Hawkeyes have this week against Wisconsin?
We're going to the four-play group here?
This could be a crazy guess on either direction in either direction.
I think all of them are.All right.Yeah.Trent one 94.Oh man, this guy has no confidence.Um, no way.I know what it is.One 94.What'd you guess?Frankie one 94.No, I'm kidding.Crazy.Alex two 41.
Wow.Two 41 is a historic day in Iowa city.If that means there's juggernauts now, dude, I'm taking the over two 41.I legit speaking of Gary, I think he would have a heart attack.Um, okay.
Are you seeing this, uh, that Gronk, um, Gronk like went to college.He's like, that's his college buddy.The guy that ripped that ball out of that glove.No way.There's a whole clip of him talking on ESPN being like, I went to college with that guy.
He goes, shout out to you for shining in your moment.Like he goes, he's a beauty. That doesn't surprise me at all.Dude, because a lot of his tweets are about Gronk.So we were like, this guy loves Gronk, Pornhub and the Short Porch.
This is just unbelievable.
Oh, he's a superstar, especially if they win this series.My second one, the New York Islanders and the New York Rangers play on Sunday.
Oh, fuck.We're so bad right now.
These, you know, these two New York hockey teams, one that we're very familiar with.Uh, they play on Sunday.How many shots on goal will the Islanders have now?I didn't do any research on this.
I figured I would let Frankie, we might have to cut them off at some point, but I wanted to let him talk for like a minute about what he thinks of how many shots on New York.
I mean, the Islanders are playing poorly.They lost at home to the Anaheim ducks last night, but they also had 40 shots on goal.They had 41 shots on goal last night.I think the goalie made 40 saves.
So they're, they're peppering goalies and it's starting to get to like a frustrating. like kind of level here where it's like they just can't get the puck in the net.I would say they're they're averaging.
I want to look it up like how many shots are averaging 33 this year.That's a lot.Yeah, it is a lot.They're firing pucks.That has to be up there in the NHL.So it's the Rangers.They're going to.It's it's at MSG.I think it's a day game.
Day games are always a little weird.
They they tend to be like defensive games, but shots of the Blues lost a barn burner last night to Ottawa 8 to 1 8 to 1 8 to 1.
Yeah, it's dark times right now.The Islanders.It's not good.Not many fans in the stands and.Oh no, I just I don't know.I'm seeing that a lot though.I saw like a Buffalo.I saw the Sabres like they had a lot of empty seats behind the net.
Like I'm seeing a lot of places across the NHL.It's just becoming really expensive sometimes for guys to get to that many games like it's a lot going on right now.You can go to MLB playoffs.You can go to NBA.You can go to the NHL.
There's a lot of entertainment so it's like. Fuck, how many people go to Islander games, I don't know.
What would you, this is not closest to, what would you guys guess the temperature was out this morning when I went to get my coffee at about 7.15 a.m.in Scottsdale?
Well, it's gotta be getting nicer there, right?
I was gonna say, it's gotta be getting nicer.
Yeah, dude.That's crazy.I still guess 84.Isn't that nuts?What is it now?62 right now.
Man, that's nice.Okay, answers for Islanders, shots on goal, Riggs 27, Trent 25, Frankie 30, Alex 27. Okay.Oh, I like that.So I have the high.Yes.It's his dream.And rigs has a partner for both of them.Um, all right.Third one.
I don't know if you guys have heard, but there's an election coming up.Wait, really?You guys let me know if this is two third rail.You want to catch my ballot today?
Actually, it's as American as you can get.You just go, you go, you go put in a vote.It's all I can do as a casted mind. Just fun.It's good.Now let's go around.
We're going to say who we vote.No, that's so mine is go around the table here, but it is presidential election themed.And by this next week, so we record every Wednesday week from now.I don't know what I forget.Are they tallied up immediately?
Like, well, we know by the time we record next Wednesday,
There's a lot of bickering about that because I think that they're saying with all the each state sort of got a different situation.
I think Maricopa County here where I live has been saying they might not be able to get the results till like Thursday or Friday for some reason.So people are freaking out about that.
Okay.Depends on how close and if they want to try and steal it again.
I was gonna say more days that go by the more kind of murkiness the water gets and it's not people are like not like lighting ballot boxes on fire this country is certainly a good crazy I don't know how whatever is crazy if I was president I would say everyone's got to do it on some sort of
I have to scan my frickin face to get into like a photo app on my phone.I can't do it to to vote for the frickin president United States.It's great.We got to figure something out.
Send a little piece of technology to every single person and just and just hit a button.Let's go.Hackers, bro.Hackers.I know.All right.
So I necessarily want everyone to have to.Yeah, that's true.Don't make it too much.Depends who you are.
So mine is, my question, my third one is how many electoral votes will the winning presidential candidate get?So you need 270 to win.So I would, I would recommend having a number higher than that.
But outside of that, like for example, Biden in 2020, again, if you believe the results, 306 electoral votes.Trump in 2016, 304.
Now, there might be something to this.I might be making this too simple.It could be anything over 270, right?
I mean, there's a couple combinations that I don't think we're all gonna know every, but.
You might have an advantage here, Riggs.
No, not really, because it's not like I'm a math guy.I just, you know, I don't know.
I don't know if this is even a possible number, but I'm gonna throw it out there.
I know, that's the thing, but we don't know.I don't know anything.
All right, Frankie 310, Alex 301, Trent 301, Riggs 296.All right.
Again, we might not know by the time, but we'll know eventually.
There's a chance none of those are possible numbers, but they're going to be close.
Right.It's like picking a Ryder Cup number that's impossible.
Luckily, yeah, just closest to.It doesn't have to be right on.Love it.Fourth one.Again, it was a week where there's no golf, so I didn't have much.I have bought a spinning top on Amazon. You good? It's like the one from Inception.Wow.
I'm going to spin that top on next Wednesday's show.How long will that will that top spin?Now, I do have a little bit of a background from Amazon dot com.It says in the description, long spinning time and perfectly balanced.
Many people can spin for over five minutes on the concave crystal glass base for skilled adults.The large size can easily spend for six to eight minutes.What?The medium and small size can go four to six.I bought the large size, so.
Improved technique and constantly challenge yourself for the longest spin.I'm going to practice a little bit and do this on the floor.
I'll do it quite the audio experience.
You know, it's not a great audio experience.
We'll have to talk our way through it.You know what I mean?If you do it on a table, it's going to fall off in like 10 seconds.You got to do it on the floor.Let it practice it.But I think the floor is nice.
I'll do for like.Do you like can you give yourself a golf handicap version of your skill level of spinning it?Do you know?
I don't have this thing yet.It's getting delivered tomorrow.
Did you order this just for this?
You just want to go to the fucking top.Do I think I'm in a dream?I don't know.So I'm going to I'm going to get it and I'm going to practice a little bit.So I think I'll be pretty good at it, especially I do on the floor.
It's a good idea because then I'll just go for it.You know, it'll be great.
Good thing you read that.I was going to say like 40 seconds.
I knew that was important because I was stunned when I saw that number.Well, I don't even know.
It could be way off on these.It feels like that would be a good spin.That's a good spin.I think long fucking time.Minutes forever, dude.
Forever.We'll have to talk through it because, yeah, it's not going to be, again, a great audio experience.
But all right.Frankie, three minutes, 11 seconds.Alex, three minutes, one second.Riggs, two minutes, 41 seconds.And Trent, three minutes, 52 seconds.
I got confidence in myself.
Breaking news.The fans have been banned by the MLB.
They cannot.Their tickets have been refunded for tonight.We got to get them into the screen.
Get them in the office.I'm sure Tommy Smokes has already talked to the guy.He's all over it.Yeah.All right.Those are my closest to the pen.All right.
I like it.I don't think we have anything else, gentlemen.I think we're pretty much done.
It's a long show, especially with the interview that's coming up.Yeah, it's great.
It's good.Give it to the people.
Yeah, I'd like it to be a tighter series.Our guy, um, but what a performance in game three, by the way, from Walker Bueller, who's a foreplay guest.We've had him on the show before.That's how I went.
Um, that's crazy.I typed in Walker Bueller foreplay cause I thought he was on the show and it didn't come up.
That's funny.Cause I tried to find a clip on, on Twitter that I could maybe tweet out right as like the game finished up.Cause they're all talking about him and I couldn't really find it either, but I know he was on the show.
Dude, I was sitting there watching the game on the stream and I was going to bring it up and I like, thought maybe I thought wrong.Because I was like, definitely him, right?It had to have been him.
Yeah, it was him, especially because I went on Instagram and looked and I, um, I looked him up and he, bless you.He followed me on Instagram and had responded to one of my Instagram stories like three years ago being like, that course is amazing.
Enjoy it.And so he's clearly a golf guy.Max knows him really well.And he's been in our orbit.So I know he was on the show.
I'm a quick Google search.Nothing comes up.
Nothing.It's been scraped.It's like the Dodger.It's like the Donald J. Trump interview on Rogan.You can't find it on YouTube anymore.
So I'll put that out on Twitter.
You have the sensor in the Walker Bueller podcast.
Let's see if I said I'm going to make this shot and we're going to write to Nico.So is that it?Right.We say hit it hard now.
We said after whatever you want, we could do it after you.
You wanted to do it before.
Oh, shit.I was like white chocolate.
One in 10.One in 10.One in 10.
Don't want to be your monkey ranch.Is that the guy who?All right.
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I know Nico was on with Dan before, and he's done, we've jumped on social, seen him around different tournaments before. Nico Echevarria coming off his second PGA Tour win, the Zozo Championship in Japan.He fended off Justin Thomas.
Colombian golfer going to play in the Masters for the first time this spring.You're back in Jacksonville right now.Is that where you're at?I think it gave me a chill of that intro.
Yeah, I'm back in Jacksonville, still in Japan time because it's I haven't slept at all.I woke up at, I think 2 a.m.this morning, cloud nine right now, no sleep, a lot of coffee.So we're doing great.
I was, uh, I was going to ask you about Japan and how much that messes you up because I, I know pre COVID there was a stretch where they would, you know, this tour was trying to do a little bit more of, um,
kind of a cohesive Asian swing, and guys would go over there for three weeks or so, at least to that part of the world, and get acclimated, maybe play a couple European tour events combined with it.This one I feel like was a little wild.
It's like, you guys go over, fly all the way to Japan, one tournament, fly back, you clearly handled it the best of anybody.What was it?Did you have to go over extra early to try to get acclimated?How'd you handle it?
I don't know.I mean, when, when we went to, when we did the Europe swing this, this year, we went from John Deere to Scottish and then we finished off the Olympics and then came back for Wyndham.I felt that wasn't that bad.
Uh, but this week it's bad, man.Uh, maybe it's also, we got pretty drunk after, after the, the tournament.Uh, then we were on a flight for 15 hours and, uh, just not ideal.
The body's not doing good, but I worked out this morning and I think it's slowly going to get better.But I don't know how like people in the European tour do it.
Like there were Spain, South Korea, then I think they're playing Abu Dhabi or something three weeks in a row.That's just insane.There has to be a trick for it.
A hungover 15-hour flight is comparable to, I think, a 10-year prison sentence.That's got to be as bad as it gets.
Yeah.I mean, I wasn't the only one hungover.I think a lot of caddies and players were struggling.
So I don't know if it was like all the emotions that I had, the adrenaline, everything put together, that those first, I think, 30 minutes or an hour of the flight, just looking at the little map and seeing only ocean, it was freaky, man.
Was it a charter flight?It was like a charter flight with everybody?
Yeah, it was a United, uh, United flight chartered.Um, and, uh, yeah, pretty much the whole tournament was there.
Some people stayed in Japan since there's no events this week, but a lot of, a lot of players, wives and caddies were, were in that flight.
There's been like a few, a few Sunday morning flights for me after a golf trip where I tough, like you guys run the charter flight at least.
So people kind of like all understood that everybody was in the same boat, but man, you get on with the gin pop and you're sitting there, they keep those planes cold as shit.
And we're all on the group text being like, dude, my, my fucking plane, it's like 57 degrees on this plane.And I'm just sitting here sweating profusely because I'm so hung over.
And the guy next to me has to just be like, what is wrong with this young man?
It's a hit or miss with the temperatures on planes.I just, it's rare that you're comfortable with, uh, with the AC and DM.Like sometimes there's a 95 degrees and sometimes you're shaking.Yeah.
Usually can tell when they give you the little blanket you know you're in for a cold one whenever you get the blanket on your lap.
That's cause you're like i'm not gonna use this blanket i'm an adult and then every see businessmen you see ceo is cuddling underneath the blanket cause it's twelve degrees in there when you're chartering a plane with the rest of the.
of the tournament, like how much conversation are your peers, your other players like having with you about your week?Like, are they kind of like talking your ear off about what you saw out there, how you were able to kind of defeat the golf course?
Or is it just like, you know, business as usual, everyone just does their thing after Sunday.
I think everyone was just tired and sleepy and during the flight it was more banter you would say going to the airport and in the lounge before boarding.
But once we boarded everyone was in their seats sleeping or going crazy like I was the first couple hours.
Yeah, I think that's pretty, uh, that's pretty standard as well.If buddy's golf trips, there's a little bit of band.
Once you get on that plane, like the three of us travel a lot together and it's once you get in that seat, it's like, all right, dude, like I'll see, you know, I'll see you when the wheels hit the touchdown.I got to get through this my own way.
Um, how, how was Japan overall?Were you able to, I mean, I know you got to get acclimated, you got to play the golf, you're in contention.Were you able to go out dinners, experience it a lot?
Because I've heard Japan could be, if you do it right, one of the coolest places to go.
Have any one of you guys been to Japan?No.I'm not going to say it's going to be forever my favorite country in the world, but it's up there.Wow.
Especially like the people, the cleanliness, the culture, the welcomeness from everyone, the quality of food, dude.Some states that I think we went to dinner on Tuesday and we ate, it was six of us.We ate a lot of meat.
And we didn't pay more than $35, $40 per person, and we had drinks too.And I've never had a steak like that.The sushi every day in the course, I mean, it's just hard to describe.Their standards are so much higher than ours.
Yeah, I've heard that from a lot of people have traveled there.Uh, our buddy Ron, one of our coworkers just got back from there and he's like, it's really hard to describe how good it is.Um, and he's talks about the people and the culture and stuff.
We, we kind of like. We went to Hawaii and I felt such a different like just like culture change, even though it's in America, but like they actually care about the land and they care about things that we do not care about.
So I could see that being even more on display in Japan, where it's like everywhere you go, every restaurant, every hotel, like it's just different.It's a different vibe.
I think Hawaii, you can say it's halfway there.Yeah.I would say half Japanese, half American.For sure.The signs on the bathrooms are in Japanese, a lot of signs in Japanese.And it's like, whoa, I didn't see that coming.
Yeah, we loved the, I mean, we were kind of blown away a little bit just by the respectfulness of the Hawaiian culture. And we were kind of talking a lot because none of us really knew the history like we probably should between Hawaii, the US.
How close is it to Asian culture?It felt like there was definitely some kind of blend and within a day because we did the sunrise
Sinesta, I can't remember exactly the term, it was like this sunrise ceremony and it was all about respecting the sunrise.
And I heard so much about kind of Japanese culture and how respectful it is, not just of, you know, person to person, but of everything around and the surroundings.
And then getting that experience in Hawaii, I can't even imagine it times a hundred being in Japan, Tokyo, a lot of these like ancient cities.I feel like it was like our first little taste of what that must be like.
You know what's really cool?Um, but maybe some people don't notice, but there's no trash cans.Like you're eating a bag of chips.That's your trash.You fold it, you put it in your pocket and once you get home, you throw it away.Really?
It's like a culture shock.Like that's how we take care of our stuff.A lot of trash cans out there. kind of look dirty or messy and that's something awesome, I thought.
We'd be in prison in Japan.We'd be in prison if we went to Japan.
That's almost like when they say that they should take helmets off of football players because they won't tackle as hard.Like if you take all trash cans away from Americans, they won't throw as much shit on the ground.
And it's interesting.They might throw just as much shit on the ground, but they also might do what you're saying.It might have the effect of, I'm going to take this and I'm going to take care of it.
Well, I know that they have more respect for their land and they are more respectful culture for sure.But like, I do think that that's probably because they've like, they have those types of customs.
Like that, that's, that's just normal to them to not have trash cans for us. It's like, there's a trash can on every single corner in New York City.
Of course, you're gonna have a banana peel and you're gonna throw it towards it because it's just available.But I think if you took that away.
And that banana doesn't go in.Right, it goes on the floor.
I mean, New York City is a disaster right now.It's a natural disaster.I've been going every single night last night, like every single night this week to watch the Yankees.It's real bad.
Like you walk to some of the nicest restaurants in the world and you're like stepping over people and it's like, it's fucking bad right now.
We had a bad experience in New York with a homeless person.And the homeless person spit on my girlfriend's back.Oh, whoa.
Someone just spit on my car yesterday.Some guy came up to my car and asked me for money.And I was like, I have no cash.I did the wave.I'm like, I got nothing.And he just spit on my window.And I was like, he hocked a loogie on it.
I was like, this is insane.I'm going to phone my wife.I'm like, this place is insane.
Wait, wait.There is a delivery guy. that saw everything happen.I was shocked.Like I didn't move.And the delivery guy, it's a local and spit on her.Yeah.We were waiting to order a juice or something.We were online.
There's this guy comes back and like, dude, and they keep walking.The guy right next to us sees that starts running at him and starts beating the crap out of him.It's like a movie.Yeah.
Wow.New York.Yeah, that's insane.
Right.On the topic of cultures, we've got a guy, uh, you know, in our orbit, Jersey, Jerry, who's been pitching us heavy on Columbia.He wants us to go and do a golf trip down in Columbia.Is that something you would recommend?
Is there a great golf down there?Like what for, for guys who might head down there in the next year or so, would you, what would you recommend?
Well, what's you guys, I mean, I know you guys travel a lot with golf, uh, for fun.I'll also a little work, but more profound.What'd you guys think?It's more important.
The quality of golf, the aftermath, the dinners, the, because there, there is pretty much everything.It's just, you can, you can do it different ways.
I would say the quality of golf is the least important.Like I think what I thought.Yeah.Like the, I mean, obviously cool courses are,
are fun and we talk about them a lot, but I think if we're going to go down to Columbia, I think we would be going down there for showcasing like, yes, golf exists.
There's some pretty cool courses, but to go down to just Columbia in general, the culture, the scene, what the hangs like at the courses, what the hospitality is like, what the people were like, like that would be kind of the whole, the whole pitch.
I would do like a four or five day trip, spend two days in Bogota, two days in Medellin, where I'm from, and probably one or two days in Cartagena.That would be six days.Play three or four out of the six days.Don't be too tired.
And you can have some fun after.You can go out and eat pretty good food.So four or five days in those cities would be plenty.And it's a full trip.I mean, it's only three hours from Miami,
Yeah.We got to get down there.Um, who are the, who are the guys that we met at the, uh, one putt, one putt Columbia.They got like a little Instagram.You ever ran into them?
Oh yeah.Yeah.I mean golf is tiny dude.Golfing golf back home is minimal.There's, there's such a soccer fever that golf is, is male.Everyone knows each other and uh, yeah, they've done, they've done really good.
Yeah, they came up to us at the president's cup in Carolina and they were like the most respect, like respectful, just nice guys.We really come across in the business.
Like they were like, uh, we watch your videos and this is like, like we basically try and become you guys, the Colombian version.And we're starting to get the respect and like the, and the, involvement of some of the Colombian golfers.
And he's like, it's, they were, they had like a tear in their eye meeting us.And it was, it was really cool.
So they started the podcast because of you guys, I think, I mean, they wanted that idea.
It's amazing.So I actually follow them and I watch all their stuff and I can't read any of the stuff that they write, but I watch it all.And like, it's, and I read it and they get super pumped for guys like you and they go nuts.
So yeah, it's, it's great.Um, We definitely need to make a trip down there.I know that like if we do, we should like include them in one of the videos or something.
It'd be awesome to just get that, get that whole, uh, the culture really diving deep into it.
Yeah.And scramble against them would be cool.
Yeah, that would be, that would be fun.
Nothing too crazy.Two or three days in golf, how I said, and, and just have a lot of fun in a week or less than a week.
Really, the only thing I know about Medellin is like they couldn't get the movie to to to go well and that's right.
Like and then when it's Billy that came out of the movie and Billy ruined it and they had a good trailer and then once his face tried to buy it, the I've never, I've never seen it was canceled.
You've never seen it.There's a whole thing about your home city.The whole thing.Is that right?It's a massive, massive storyline.
Would you compare Entourage to like The Office or Friends in that way?Like it's a comedy or I've seen episodes that see what is it about, like the movie star and the whole Entourage.
It's a comedy, but it's not so much like trying to get a laugh out of you as like as much as The Office.I mean, The Office, Friends is one thing.There's a laugh track.There's a live audience that they're laughing at every single thing.
Someone walks into the room. you hear the laugh.The Office is a little bit more dry humor.It feels like you can watch a full episode and they try and sneak laughs in there and you have to know the characters.
And then I think Entourage is even more that where it's like you have to watch season upon season to get storylines and it's a little bit more of a drama.
Like there's guys that you need to know their story arc, like where they came from, who they're friends with, who they're fucking over.Like that all adds to the funniness also.
It's more like Billions a little bit.You ever watch Billions?Got it.Yeah.
It's almost a little bit more like you're living vicariously through the show a little bit like that's everybody's sort of dream is like you or one of your buddies is a goddamn movie star and you all live together and you go around Hollywood, but it also has.
of really good comedic aspect.Like Ari Gold is one of the funniest characters in history and you're into the drama.
Yeah.He goes nuts.I've seen a couple of everything.Great show.
Highly recommend watching it.
It's really good.I'll start up.I'll start it.It is a really good show.No, I, uh, like I know on turn at what, I mean, I'm, we've been saying it wrong the whole time.Medellin it's Medellin.Is that how you say it?
Yeah.The double L is a G sound.Medellin.
well i recently i recently watched the two escobars which is the 30 for 30 on just the whole clubby and all that and obviously don't want to get into like the bad history but it made me think when i saw that you were up there and then you won
It gave me the chills for the country of Columbia and where sports are at because I started thinking about the soccer team and the World Cup.And then I was looking it up to make sure that I was right.
And it was like, the Colombian soccer team is still top 10 soccer team in the world right now.And you're coming out and you've won multiple PGA Tour events.
And it almost gave me, I mean, it legitimately gave me the chills thinking about like how in just 20 years or so that Colombian flag in the world of sport has come such an insanely long way in a much cleaner way that it's like, you must feel insane pride, like representing your country in the Olympics and the going out and winning multiple tour events like that.
Like I said, that gave me the damn chills.
It's hard to explain to people how big soccer is and how small golf is.The golf is so elite for only people that are members of a club.There's very little public courses.
And I mean, hopefully one day, if we keep if we keep playing good golf, we can we can change that.We can change that and build a shit ton of courses or me, Sebastian and Camilo can put something together and
I don't know, just thinking for the good and for the for the growth of the game.That'll be I'll be insane.
I'm looking here to you talking about sports in Columbia, and I was trying to think because I'm so deep in MLB playoffs and Yankees fan.We got the World Series.I'm thinking like, who are the best Colombian baseball players?And there's a deep.
Oh, my God.We got Orlando Cabrera. Edgar Renteria.No, wouldn't he?No one there.Yeah, for the Cardinals, Jose Quintana, I mean, Gio Urshela, who's in Julio Toronto, like you guys have some pretty damn good players in there.
And a lot of them are young, like in that top list, a lot of them are in their early thirties, late twenties.So like there is that resurgence, there's that, there's that surge of Colombian baseball players as well.
And I think it's comparable to golf because baseball in Columbia is only played in the coast.So you, if you open a map, There's maybe three or four big cities that are in the coast in the north.
We get the Atlantic on the right, top right, and we get the Pacific on the top left.So all the baseball is in Cartagena, Santa Marta, and Barranquilla.Those are three cities, and they produced a lot of good baseball.Wow.Yeah, look at that.
Yeah, that's crazy.So it's all just central.The rest of the country doesn't play baseball.Wow. Yeah, I wonder if that helps them like like that's like where all the competition is.
So like you have to like if you're going to make it out of those three cities, you make it like you're pretty freaking good football in Texas, right?That's exactly right.Like the competition is as high as it's going to get in your area.
So if you can make it out of there is the best.All eyes are on you.It's like if you made it out of those three cities, you're number one.
When I was growing up playing hockey, it was like that where you pretty much had to go north to play the best competition.It's getting bigger.But I mean, if you think about it now, like hockey in the U.S.
is pretty damn regional, like people in SEC country don't play ice hockey.That doesn't exist.That's probably similar.Yeah.
It's like awesome.Matthews coming from Arizona is like the most insane thing.Crazy.Yeah.
And I remember like one year, 10 years ago or so, we had a couple, whatever the number was, maybe it was three or something.First round draft picks. came from St.Louis.It was like the Stasdy and it was and I remember that just being crazy.
But then when you looked at it, it was because Al McInnes and Basil McRae, who are like legends for the Blues, retired and then stayed in St.Louis and then they developed the youth hockey system.
And then 1020 years later, a lot of those kids that finally had good coaching became really good.So it's like it's funny how it takes that to develop kind of good play.And it seems like you've got kind of aspirations for that golf
We might be a couple years away from our first Colombian hockey player, but I don't, I'm not going to take that off the list.
50 years from now, maybe eight years.
I want it now.I'm going to say, I'm going to say the year 2074 is our first Colombian NHL player.
It'll be, it'll be, it'll be the cool running version of a Colombian hockey player.
It can't be like the mom is Colombian and the dad is American and he grew up in the States and the border of Canada and the US.No, it can't be like that.
I need Columbia to start coming up with like they don't have a hockey rink in Columbia, right?There's not one in the whole entire country.
There's ice rinks, but in like malls.Okay.
You know, not nothing.That's a start.Like one kid just like falls in love with it and like way more than I thought.Like that's a star.
Imagine the tiny of Columbia being the greatest hockey player.
I mean, you guys are fast as hell.I mean, there is a blend between soccer and hockey, I feel like.I feel like now, I talked to one of my buddies who's from London, and he was saying just in Europe,
a lot of soccer players are now starting to pick up in like non-hockey areas just how similar it is with like the formations and playing defense and like it's not the same but there is that there's that similarity of yeah we have to get into zones and we have to like how you move and how you open space exactly so like of course it's really hard to put blades on your feet
But once you get past that, you do start to feel the same to huge energy, huge barrier.
You're getting way too excited about the weather in Colombia is never going to change.We're never going to have snow.We're never going to.It's always going to be an outdoor country.But yeah, I mean, twenty seventy four.
It's a it's a good number.Look at this.I'm talking to I'm talking to AI Google and it says Colombia does not really currently have many ice rinks.However, Colombia does have a national ice hockey team.
The team debuted in 2014 at the Pan-American Ice Hockey Tournament in Mexico.They played their first game against Argentina.
We're on our way.We are on our way.We're on a good trajectory for 2074.We are on a good trajectory.
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Let's get back to your win for a second.And Riggs mentioned it off the top that you held off some big names in this tournament.Justin Thomas, Ricky Fowler.Are you thinking about those guys when the tournament is happening?
Are you like, holy shit, I got these names behind me.Are you focused on your own game and you're trying to kind of put the blinders onto all that?
That's a hard question from hockey to that.You are, you're thinking of who you're playing again because winning in Puerto Rico helped, but obviously you're playing, I guess, a totally different field than the Arnold Palmer was that week, you know?
And this week, let's say it was half between Puerto Rico and Arnold Palmer.It's a good comparison.
So you are thinking, you are thinking of the players like I gotta be just in promise, he's kinda back.Like the way he played for 36 goals from what I saw, he's good shit.Max Reisserman, this putter was on fuckin' fire.He hits the ball a long way.
Ricky was there.There was a lot of orange Japanese people in the crowds in front of us.Morikawa was there.He's he hasn't won this year, but he's finished second I feel like 50 times.He won there last week last year.
Xander, you can arguably say it's the second best player in the world.So it's not that I'm thinking it's like giving me chills because you don't think that at the, at the moment you're just trying to stay in your own lane.You're playing good golf.
Don't think about that shit because it's going to affect you more than it's going to help you.But the, the tournament is, is more important because those guys are playing.
Do you watch the guys in your group?Like I know you have to on a courtesy level watch so that you could just be a respectful golfer in a group.But are you like,
Are you trying to almost block out what other guys are doing so that you can just focus on what you're doing or does it not really affect it too much?
Sometimes you watch mostly on part threes.You watch the shot, especially if they're hitting first.
Um, the winds tricky, you watch, if you have a similar putt to them, you watch, but I'm gonna say something that I've never, that I didn't say to anyone.
I, I didn't watch JT putt on the back nine just because every putt looked like he was going to go in and I didn't, See it on me.
I don't know the tenth hole It was kind of similar to my line and I said I think I'm gonna keep doing this because that ball should go in and it's not going Yeah, a little super a little stitious just a little I don't consider myself a superstitious person, but it's one of those things that he's he's playing really good golf he said that
I mean that would be a tournament that he would have won most of the times if the ball just wasn't going in and I'm kind of glad the ball didn't go in.What?
Trent, you gotta try anything you can.We've done that in our matches.
Yeah, one scramble Trent had like his left foot or left foot in the air, his head turned to the left or something when people were just missing putts every time he did that.
Unfortunately, I think that was the Sam Burns scramble early on.I had it.I had him in a house of whores not watching his putts and then he blew us out, but it works with the hat or stuff like that.
He got it.It works until it doesn't.
That's kind of the, that's kind of the mantra until that pot goes in and it's like, Oh, that shit didn't work.
Uh, how were the, uh, I know you mentioned that obviously a lot of the, the, um, A lot of the fans are running around in the Ricky orange and stuff.How are the crowds in general?
It looks like they're wild and, and pretty damn intense, you know, for a little fall event.But I know golf's huge over there.So how was the crowd?How are the crowds?
Yeah, golf is huge.Um, it was a fall event, but it was, uh, it was an elite field event.They, there were a lot of people there.Uh, the weather was perfect.Um, there are rain any days normally about that time of the year can rain a lot.
But they were very polite.They were flapping even if you shank a shot or if you had a biker's dad there.And it was very cool.It was very cool to not see the stupid guy yelling, light the candle or that gets old.
You know, uh, these guys were, were shrewd gentlemen watching golf.
God, they must just like watch the Phoenix open and they, they like their whole country.Can't even watch the Phoenix open.They just have to, they just have to black out golf for that way.
Watch that Yankee fan pry the ball out of Mookie pets.
It's the funniest thing that's ever happened in a sports game ever.And anyone that finds it not to be funny is a huge loser with a huge dump in their pants.I love it.
People were like, how could you root for such classless or it's like, dude, that's the guy literally grabbed a ball out of one of the greatest players in the games during a game.And his other friend grabbed his wrist.He goes, get out of here.
What are we doing?But I want to say, did you guys see the comparison between they would show Billy's in the Bronx and then they would show the Japanese bar to watch Otani.Have you guys been seeing the comparison?It is.
laugh out loud funny, how different it is.I mean, they'll show like Billy's going nuts and beers flying everywhere and people will punch each other in the face.
And then they cut to that one restaurant where they're all sitting on like little stools and they're just hitting those.They were hitting those little like noisemakers, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.And it was in unison.It was like militaristic.
It was bizarre.But they're just sitting there just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.And then down by their down by their side.Oh, my God.
It's a weird culture.They have emotion. But I don't know if it's kind of right to show their emotions because they are so uptight.They follow the rules like this is how it happens, like the speed limit.You don't go over the speed limit, period.
So it's kind of weird, like awesome, awesome people.But us Colombians are very different.
Yeah, it's probably a tough adjustment for sure.But that that does go to show why.I mean, golf is made for that.Like golf.Yes, it's kind of made for that.Like respect the game.You honor it.It's a it's self policing.
Yeah.Yeah.So it's probably at its peak.Like, you know, old golf media probably loves going to watch golf in Japan.Jeff Shackelford is like he just wants to build his house out there.
He's calming himself whenever the Zozo comes around.
Respect to the game.Oh, my God. We're out there dappin' up golfers and fuckin', yeah.
We got, yeah, we're blarin' like country music.Different.It's just gotta be.
morning.He's like, what is that?
It's different.It's not one right or one wrong.It's also cool to play under that type of people just because it's different.
I think it's really cool.You get to see so many.I mean, you are, you know, from Columbia.So you've already like to us, you've seen a different style of the game of golf, but you guys really get to see the differences around the whole world.
And we've been lucky enough to now travel and see Like even just going to Hawaii.
I've talked about that at the top, like just totally different culture, totally different vibe, the way they respect the game, especially the way they respect the golf courses and just everything is just a little bit different.
So got to be cool for you to be able to see so many different cultures and eating at different restaurants like traveling the world is such a it's such an honor.It's such a privilege that you don't.
Not many people get to do this, man, like most people. She, especially here in America, like they don't leave their town, let alone their state.Like it's, you don't really travel.
Why, why would I need a passport?And it's insane.Right.
Yeah.So, I mean, cool.And I know like, yeah, different countries, like traveling is part of the culture, especially in Europe, you can get to any different, you can get to a million different countries in a matter of hours.
But for here, it's like, you know, when I grew up, it's like, You had your one trip a year and you like, you like, you picked it out and like, you're like, we're going to Montana.Like, it's not even like that crazy of a trip.Um, but now it is cool.
Well, I know what you're saying.
Yeah.So I mean, it's got to be.I mean, did you ever envision ever being able to do anything like that and let alone traveling, but going out and competing?
Because we see the different types of grasses and different types of grain and how much a golf course can change from week to week.And you're going out there and you're winning in Puerto Rico and Japan.That's you've got an island.You start.
Yeah, it is islands.But you're starting to really.Was there any similarity in the grass?I mean, or is that a dumb question?
OK, kind of.It is it.The grass in Japan is very thick. You can relate it to like a St.Augustine in Florida, like a thick, thick, rough grass.They just maintain it well.
And I feel like in Puerto Rico, it's so hot there that it's kind of similar to Florida-ish.Yeah, there's some comparison.You can compare it that way.
Do you at all base your schedule around certain types of grass?Because I know like Kevin Kisner, for example, who grew up you know, South Carolina, he goes West, Poanna, all that stuff.He despises it.You look like a guy like Tiger, Max Homa.
They grew up in California, Poanna.That's where they win all the time.Do you ever do you factor that into the tournaments you play?
That's a good question.I, I feel like at some point I will, since the sport has become, has become so big in statistics, but I yet don't have enough around in the PGA Tour to tell.You kind of have an idea, but you still don't know.
Hoa is the hardest putt, the greens to putt in, but in Bermuda, it also hard to chip around.
So there's, there's, I still can't tell you if I'm a, if I'm a California person or a Florida person, just because I don't have enough rounds, like Tiger has been on tour for so many years that he picks a schedule based on what he's done well.Um,
Hopefully he changes to the places that he can walk easier, uh, which is sad, but it's true.I mean, the PGA tour would be so much better if he just plays a couple times a year and Helton head or somewhere black.
Do you have a favorite player, favorite player to watch?I have too many.I'm, I'm that, that big of a golf nerd.
Are you, do you watch, you watch golf when you're not playing?
I like when a professional actually enjoys a sport like it's out.It's almost refreshing.Sometimes like we'll talk not.
Golfers aren't really that way, but like for us, like if I become buddies with like a professional athlete or I'm I'm having a drink and they're in the they're in the circle and you want to kind of talk to him about their sport, you sometimes get the feeling that they don't want to talk about.
It's like dude, that's my work like. I just got like, I don't want to do that.But for you to hear that, like you can't get enough of it.
And like, once you're done with it, you're going to watch it and you want to talk about it and you want to converse about it.That is refreshing.It's nice that it's not like consuming your life to the point where you like hate it.
I don't know if it's going to sound bad, but I just, that I hear that question, that answer too much of no, I don't watch golf.I don't know if they're trying to sound cooler and tougher.
And I don't know, it just makes me, or maybe I'm the different person that I do like to watch golf.I was trying to take a nap yesterday.One thing, the Asian tour was on and I wasn't paying much attention.
I was trying to go to sleep, but it's still the golf.The Asian tour was on.
Yeah, I love it.You like we had a debate on the grinding over the Asian tour.
We had a debate on the show last last show about like. where we rank certain golfers like we were talking about like Brooks and and Rory and where do you like rank a couple of these like current golfers in the top 20 top 30 of all time?
Like are they there yet?And we were kind of getting into the discussion of where to like how do you really rank like a major versus multiple PGA Tour wins?Like do you have any feeling on that yet?I saw a video yesterday.
Yeah, do you have any like, you know, opinion on that?Like, I mean, obviously, you may be a little biased, like you're coming off like an actual regular win there.
But like, where should like the viewer rank certain wins over other wins, you know, like, is that is that fair to be able to rank one goes like Zozo championship, man.Yeah, number one.Only the all time greats have won those tournaments.
It's pretty crazy the the names for the have one that is also though.Oh, yeah But uh going back to that I was watching the highlights watching golf again of they were comparing Goddie's ear to Xander's here.
They haven't given the player of the year award and And at first I said, there's no way Scotty's not gonna win this.I mean, how is he not gonna win this?He's won a hundred times this year and Zander won two majors.
So I would say it's more depending on the person you have, what their priorities are.I haven't won a major yet.I haven't played in that many majors.So I would say Scotty's career, Scotty's year was better just because of the dominance, but
I think it was maybe Justin Rose who they asked that question.You would say I may pick Xander because I'm already won a major. I won more majors and it's a tough question.I don't think there's a right answer.
It's crazy.I was just looking it up.Someone's only won two majors in a year, 33 times in the history of the major championships.So it's like to do that for Xander.
How many times has Tiger been that person?
Yeah, right.Like half of them.Exactly.Um, right.You could, you could, a bunch of those have been done by,
a handful of players or whatever that number is so it is you know maybe if it's only happened 33 times maybe 20 of those times it's just 20 golfers that have done all 33 or whatever so then you're starting to look at like how could you say that's such an impressive feat zander does it he's not player of the year but man scottie's
Scottie's year with how hard it is to win now and how good all you guys are and the equipment and how hard it is to separate yourself.His year was insane and winning the Olympics.
I think a lot of people kind of looking at the Olympics as a sort of a major so.
We're not talking, we're not even talking about Bryson's here.I mean, I don't have anything against the Lib guys.I still, I'm friends with everyone out there, or a lot of guys out there that I know.
But Bryson, every time he competed in a major, he was, other than the British Open, I think he was in contention.He won the US Open and he had the chance to win the other two.So that's insane too.
I mean, the level of golf those three guys had this year was nuts.
Then starting a YouTube channel and become and like just taking over the whole basically the whole golf world and then not really falling in his professional game is so impressive.Like he was posting YouTube videos right before the US Open.
Everyone's like is even like what is this guy?Where is his priorities at?
Then he goes out PR person with the MVP of the year though.Oh yeah, I know him from the most hated guy out there by far too.You could tell in the US Open how people were with him.
It's interesting with golf because like in other sports, you, you really rank just championships over everything else.You can have a great career.
And then if you don't win that championship, like that's kind of how you're, you know, ranked against your peers.
But in golf, like you do have regular season, you do have playoffs, you have the FedEx and stuff, but like a win at the Zozo is still a fucking huge win.It's not like a regular season win.Like that is like. you won a mini championship.
Like you faced off against all these guys and went four days.You had to like fight them all off.That's not just like a regular, that's not a regular season win.
So it is like, you know, when Scotty does it as much as he did last year, it does feel less than majors, but like each win is still fucking huge, like tons of money coming in.
It's, it's, it's the biggest event that you can imagine when you're there, especially elevated fields.Like
I would say it's unfair the way he made it look.Just unfair how he was doing it so easily.It's like shooting a free throw.Yeah, another win.Right.
Yeah.We say it a lot too now that we get to go to so many more events.And I think Frankie said it at the end there that when you're there, That event is the biggest thing in the world.It's the biggest thing to that town.
Dude, when you go to Japan, like I can't even imagine, it's the biggest thing in the country.All the golfers in Japan, I'm sure for the last eight months leading up to it, are like, we have tickets to go to the Zozo on Thursday.We're going to fly in.
These are the guys that we want to watch.We can't wait till they release tee times.When you guys get on site, I'm sure you shake the hands of
Dozens of people that are involved in making that tournament become a reality from the sponsors to the members of the club to Those that have that have that worked and they they come from the u.s They work for the PGA Tour and then the PGA Tour moved them to Japan Years ago so they could just work on building out this one event and like everybody flies over you've got Xander in the field and JT and
And you and these huge names, like it is the biggest thing in the world of golf for an entire week.And it's like something that'll go on your resume for the rest of your life if you can fend everybody off.
And it's hard to explain how big of a deal that is.Obviously, you know you won the damn thing.This guy went out and won the damn thing.
It's insane.It's insane.You're making my head explode with how hard it is to run a tournament.
It's impossible.Golf is impossible.You guys do it. Like Nico, like you had, you have to, you had to play really well and then hope that no one else just like without you having any impact on them, you just have to hope that they didn't play better.
Like that's how hard golf is.Like you could play as well as you could possibly want to play.And then someone could go out there and just simply play better and there's nothing you can do about it.And then you lose.
You can play the best round of your life.Best four rounds of your life. And then someone could go out there and just go nuclear.And you're like, well, what am I supposed to do?I couldn't play defense on him.I couldn't stop that ball from going in.
It's the worst game in the world in that aspect.It's like, how the hell are you supposed to win?How are you supposed to win?And you did.
I just you were saying that.And I just thought of Tiger and 2000 of Pebble.What if the fourth round we just his knee hurts or not anything hurts?He can't walk.Yeah.Like, oh, you're not waiting today.
Yeah, right.It's true. It's so easy to not win.
Miguel Angel and Jimenez finished second.I don't know if you knew that.Yeah, the mechanic.The mechanic was like three over.The mechanic would have won a major if Tiger was sick that day.He lost by 20 something.
Another great nickname.We talked about nicknames.Nicknames aren't around anymore.Do you have any good nicknames?Do you have a nickname for yourself? Or like, well, not that you call yourself.We went, people call you.
We went from now we, we went from Nicholas to Nico.It's just easier for just Nicholas sounded like my, like my mom was yelling at me saying Nicholas.Uh, so we just wanted too many syllables.
Claudia, my girlfriend came with that and that was a strong PR move, I think.
Yeah, that's great.Actually, I got a response from Kirk Minahan about because he, he was like, that's a great question.Why there's no more, um, nicknames in golf.And he was saying that writers used to give them to the players also.
And that is no longer a thing.Like there's not these like iconic writers that like everyone's reading in the newspaper and like whenever someone would have a great win, they would write some sort of like the mechanic was on the back nine.
You're like, Oh, the mechanic, like, Oh shit.Yeah. Um, there's no more of that.
How do you think he feels about being called the mechanic or when you first start?Yeah, we're calling you the mechanic.
I don't know.I think it could be worse.Yeah, it could be worse.
Yeah, I could have been like, what's the worst nickname that ever someone, a professional golfer has gotten the worst?Oh, what's that?I saw the tiger documentary the other day on HBO.
that Tiger's mom used to call Phil when he was chubby, not lefty, but hefty.
That's a tough one.Yep.That's a Coltita Woods assassin.Absolutely.
Oh, yeah.That hefty is not a good that's not a good nickname.You don't want to be that.No, Nico's solid.It's you know, there's not a lot of Nico's out there.
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Yeah, I want to, I want to try to go at least once or twice.Uh, I talked to Camila is a good mentor of me.Um, talk to him a lot.And he's, he's seen it all.He's been there, he's done that.And he says in some way, it's good to go there and,
kind of lose respect, not, not lose respect, but if that's your first time going during the tournament, it's gonna, it's gotta be, you gotta be scared.You gotta be in awe.I know it's me for sure.Yeah.
So, but he still, he also told me like some chips during the regular week of the masters are totally different than when you go a month before because you're able to stop it with a 60 or with a 54 or whatever.
And during tournament, just a putter and see where it goes. So yeah, but I haven't planned anything yet.No plans.I'm going to try to go though.
Maybe have a cocktail, take a couple pictures, have a couple laughs, leave for a month.And the next time you come back, it's all business, baby.
You got to get it in your head that it's just a golf course.
Exactly.It's fucking grass.There's holes in the ground.There's sand.It's like it's just a golf course.
It's not just a golf course.And you know that Nico, like it's going to be unbelievably intense.And here's the part where Frankie mess up your mess.
It's going to be unbelievably intense and it's going to be so emotional and your, your heart's going to be in your throat, but that's what makes it the fucking masters.And you're going to win it one day if you're able to overcome it.
And like, that's amazing.And that's why it's the greatest championship.It's a, it's the greatest honor. to go out there and win at that place because of everything else that comes with it.
No matter how many times you go out there, Tiger Woods still goes out there and gets that flutter, man.There's no chance he doesn't.
It's more of a mental grind or mental preparation than a swing or technique preparation by far.I don't know.I'm saying yes, but yes. But you know what I mean?
Yeah.When I play there, you're comfortable with the uncomfortable.Correct.There you go.Correct.Yeah.That's what I said.Every time I've teed it up there, which is good.I mean, it is.It's a little bit.It's like going on.You got to go on a college tour.
You got to go.It's like going to.Yeah.You really want to go to this place, but you have to go check it out first.You got to go see everything so that Amen Corner is not the first time you're looking at it.You got to get that.
It's like going to see a haunted house with the lights on.
Yeah, exactly right.That's right.
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It's like my job at the house with the lights on.It's true.It's like, you know where the turns are.You know what to expect.But then like when when Showtime hits, things are a little bit different.Things are popping out of rooms.
You know what's there, but you still the dark.So, yeah. Yeah.Are you going to react to it when it happens?That first hole, like, you know, John Rahm, he four putt that and John Rahm made a double on number one, four putt.
It's like that wasn't that didn't happen when the lights were on.Right.You know, the lights turned off and ghosts started coming out.And it's like, holy shit, this green is flying.And then it's just like, all right, we've been here before.
We know the second hole.We know the third hole.We know where it goes.
And then he kind of he kind of gets in the mad fought where Ram Ram gets and he just transformed and Losing respect for Augusta and yeah, fuck everyone I'm gonna beat the crap out of you and I don't care where it is.
All right, fuck this golf course.I mean Yeah, right Do you get like do you have any of that does like anger at all in yourself or in your game?Like does that drive you like are you a wear it on your sleeve type of golfer?
Or do you like and so it all in I've tried I've tried to
have more of an even feel kind of the highs were before too high the lows were too low so in Japan it was cool to see like I bogeyed that par 5 14 and I almost saw like, okay, we made it actually a good bogey.
This could have been the end of the tournament, but go out there the next slide hit in the bunker and I hit an unbelievable shot.
So it's been I prepared myself mentally with my psychology sports psychologist to to make that a strength instead of weakness for me and kind of be a more even kill.But we still see some emotions on fist bumps, which I I'm fine with that.
How deep is your team?Do you have a stats guy, sports psychologist, trainer, caddy, coach?What's your entourage?
Bodyguard goes to almost every tournament. My coach, he has kind of an assistant or another person that he works with.Sometimes one goes, sometimes the other goes.
Not every week, but maybe once a month I see with him on the road or when I'm in Jacksonville.I have a sports psychologist who mostly has soccer players. soccer players or tennis players.And he got into golf not too long ago.
He works with the Paraguayan, Paraguay's national soccer team.And so he's kind of a tough guy, not a lot of emotions.He tells you how it is, which is what I needed because I considered myself weak mentally before.
Uh, I have a trainer in Jacksonville.I have a physio on the road.I started working with a, with a nutritionist.Well, Ned started working, but I got advice from a nutritionist like three weeks ago at the long list.
Um, I have a, I have a, an agent that works for a big company. My caddy, who didn't go to Japan, but I won with a different person.
Good luck handling that one.Neil Best and Ringo Starr, man.One guy fills in, ends up being in the fucking Beatles.Pete Best.Pete Best.Sorry, Neil Best.
So yeah, it's a long list.It's a lot of things that come for a professional golfer to win or to even get on tour.The things that you don't see.
Working, whatever you're doing is working.
Well, yeah, and I got like that wind man, like all of those people work day in and day out and their connection with you is to get a win, you know?And it's like,
that's what they're doing and then you win and it's like how you know how cool is that that's what everybody's objective is you got this whole team you go out and win everyone's like that's what that's what we're here to do that's the goal yeah i work with eduardo and that's more than i and i work with uh james red yearning short game so that's two four that's a lot of coaches and guys yeah it's a big squad that's a hell of a squad it's obviously working things are things are turning upward what i like is that i
I consider myself kind of a lazy person and I have experts in their areas, so I let them do their job.I believe in them and I know they're going to give me the best advice they can.So that's another way, a different way to think about it.
I think a big part of your success is that you, I clearly could tell that you know yourself. And you've gotten over the years to kind of know yourself or you're like, I consider myself pretty weak mentally.
Like, I don't think I've ever heard any professional athletes say that.Or you're like, I'm pretty late.Just came out that way.So well, but it's, it's just like, it's something, it's something that I needed to address.
Yeah.Right.I pick this person or that matter.
I mean, you just said it out loud, but like, You know, golf psychologist is it's like the number one job now like on tour like every single guy is like trying to find their person.
So I mean there that is a weakness in everyone's game clearly if they're like trying to get someone from the outside to help them with a process or thinking through certain shots like
I mean, everyone knows that that's something that they're trying to get better at.You just happen to say it.I don't think that's crazy to to say that's a weakness.I mean, I mean, if it's not a strength, it is a weakness.
So, yeah, it's also that's also like you can't putt or you can't hit your long irons.You're just weak mentally.You can't hit the driver in play at the left.You have the right.
That's also maybe even more important than any other aspect in like the swing or the game.Yeah, right.Totally.Totally.
No, man, it's, uh, it's, it's cool to hear like what it takes, you know, and, and what it takes to, to work on and improve yourself and then to see the results and get that win, uh, as very, very fun to watch.Very, very fun to watch.
No, thank you guys.Thanks for having a different product out there.It's just sometimes it gets boring to talk about golf all the time.Golf is not that exciting and you guys make it fun talking about
the universe like Frankie or you about hockey or Brent about Iowa.I'm a fan of you guys though.Appreciate that.Golf nerd.
You're the best, Nico.You're the best.
You're out there winning tour events.So congratulations, man.Friend of the program.Appreciate you coming on.I know we kept you like a full hour and you're a busy guy.You probably got a million people to check in with.He's coming up.No, he's lazy.
He's lazy as shit.Hail Mary. All right.We're going to we're going to let you go.Thank you, Nico.Congratulations.You're the man.And we'll we'll see you soon, hopefully.Thank you, guys.That was a lot of fun.Thank you, Nico.Thank you.Bye bye.
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