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Welcome to the mismatch.I'm Chris Vernon and joining me to see this every week from the ringer.com is Dave Jacoby.Jacoby.What's happening, Verno?Hey, man.We've got a ton of stuff to get to.I went to a basketball game last night.Did you?Yeah.
I saw the Milwaukee Algonquin for the good land Bucks versus The Memphis Grizzlies.And what I witnessed last night was downright shocking.Maybe appropriate for Halloween.By the way, before we get into it, how was Halloween?You've got young kids.
You've got young kids.I saw one of them running around as an inflatable chicken.I love that.
Inflatable chicken.It was very warm here in New York City last evening.The inflatable chicken led to a lot of sweating, so he was hot.So he ended up being a deflated chicken.
all right well that's what the bucks were as well deflated they were deflated yes they were deflated chicken i mean it was shocking to witness this in person you know we come on
the show twice a week and we talk about all these different teams and we view them on television and we say, Oh, it's not starting off great for the nuggets.It's not starting off great for the bucks.
Those had been two of the big topics already this season, given that they've got in many people's estimations, the two best players in the world and soft supporting casts around them.
As I watched it unfold last night, what was shocking to me was the absolute lifelessness and how I sat there and I thought to myself, boy, this is a team that's like, you know, they're starting off one in three.
They're playing a team that's on a back to back that's really Not in great spirits after losing to Chicago and Brooklyn in these last two home games they've had, they're down to two more starters in Desmond Bain and Marcus Smart.
And so this is a perfect time to get right, if you're the Bucks, and then to watch the game unfold the way it did.When I tell you it was Giannis and nobody else.
Anybody that did not witness this, and I will imagine many did not go look at the box score.You could even look at the, look at plus minus they're like, even with Giannis on the court.And he had, I think 37 in the game, but not Lillard.
That was by far the worst game I have ever seen Damian Lillard play.Now I have not seen all of his games over the course of his career, but certainly in person.
I mean, I've watched this guy in person, a big playoff events, this, uh, and he looked miserable, like the whole time he looked miserable.The team, like the connectivity didn't look there.
And I just, I, you know, the whole time I texted you during the game and I said, Chris Middleton ain't fixing this. And, and, and, and you look up and down, you go, all right, what could they, you know, is there some roster stuff they could do here?
Is there somebody they're not playing that they should be playing?And the answer is no.And then, and then I see, I mean, for goodness sakes, I see Taurine Prince out there.And then who do I see over on the Milwaukee bench? Darvin ham.
And I'm like, Oh, Lakers fans have to love this.They gotta love, they gotta love this.And, and, and the crazy thing is how about this one?And then Darvin ham, you know, he's just like living his life.
Nobody even knows he's an assistant coach for the bucks for that matter.He's just trying to live his life after the game.One of the guys that hounded
Damian Lillard, like his life was on the line, with Scottie Pippen Jr., and after the game, he said, yeah, I took this one extra personal, because there's a coach over there that didn't believe in me.I was like, damn!Oh, I love it.I love it.
I was like, this guy can't catch a break.Darwin Ham's going to get blamed for them too.Yeah.Right.I don't know, man.I like, I know that doc said, you know, our transition defense is this, and we've got to get this right.
And I've got to get back to work.And, but I look, it's not going to be this bad, but goodness gracious.I just thought when you're one in three.
And you're playing a team that's been in shambles recently that you would try to be getting right, but instead it was the Grizzlies that got right.And Morant was truly otherworldly last night.
One of the best games I've ever seen from a player in a half.In fact, it was downright historic.I think they said only four other guys since 96 had had over 20 points, nine and eight in a half.
And like the names are like Luca Harden thinks a bonus did it once.I mean, it's a short list, but he was otherworldly.And on the other hand, they've got nothing outside of Giannis, especially if Dame is not going to be good.
And he was miserable last night.
I mean, it was one of the worst performances you're going to see, and I've got some more on the books later, but their problem. As you said, Chris Middleton is not going to fix their problem.Their problem is perimeter defense.
They cannot stop any ball handling guard from getting to the rim, from getting to their spot, from getting to their shot, from getting whatever they want.They don't cover three point shooters.That is their problem.
And Chris Middleton does not fix that problem.And they don't have anyone on the roster, as you said, that they could play more minutes that will fix that problem.This is a broken team, and You have to also look at Doc Rivers.
Since Doc Rivers has taken over this team, they have not won basketball games.They just simply have not.And they're top to bottom really, really bad.
And I'll get to the Bucs later, but we do have to start having the conversation of how does Giannis feel about all this?As you said, the two best players on the planet are on bad teams right now that are not winning games.
It has to be the other way.And to your point, we always talk about the drop-off, whether or not a guy is subbed out or whether a guy is injured.Sometimes it's about the drop-off to the next guy and what happened when they moved off of Drew Holiday.
to not address the issue that you said, which is point of attack defense.Cause everybody can just get their offense going then, which is even more killer when you play drop coverage with Brooke Lopez, right?
Like you've got to have somebody that could stay in front of the ball.And when you go from drew holiday to Damian Lillard, you know, that's going to be a deficiency, but then you're flanking with like Gary Trent.I mean,
To not address somebody being able to get a stop on a perimeter player is just madness, truly madness.I mean, that is a failure by that front office. All accounts, um, other things that happened last night that are worth mentioning.
Um, the sun's coming back from big deficit against the Clippers book.We're having a big night right against the Clippers, uh, and storming back and winning that game.
Uh, Wimby with his five, five, five, five, and five, the five by five Mark, which now he's done it twice in his career, which is. crazy when you stand back and think about it.And I always love when he does it.
It's only happened once before, but even when people were talking about like, here's a guy that could do this, that Andre Karolinko, AK 47 gets his flowers every time they mention it.
It's like the one weird, awkward stat that now everybody loves one banyama so much that anytime he does this, People give Karolinko his flowers for pulling it off once upon a time.
And then Rockets really good win against the Mavericks on the Mavericks home court, you know, really good win for them.
So light night last night, there wasn't too much, uh, went on, but we are going to go through as we do every week, the players, teams, and things that we loved and loathe the throughout this week of NBA basketball.All right, let's go with this week.
Do you want to start?Do you want me to start? I'm gonna start.
Let me hear it.Player that I love this week.I didn't see this coming.I really didn't.This player has bounced around more than someone with their talent should.
And did you know there's a gentleman in the National Basketball Association with the first name Chavano?Chavano?Buddy Heald's name is Chavano.Is that true? Yeah, if your name is Chavano, why do you need a nickname?It's such a great name.
Like, why are you Buddy?How do you go from Chavano to Buddy?I had no idea.But I'm gonna celebrate Buddy Heald on this pod for this week.The Warriors are 4-1.Steph Curry twists his ankle twice.Two non-contact ankle rolls in the same game.
And you're thinking, without Steph Curry, what can the Warriors possibly put together to win games?And Buddy Heald is just like, hold my beer. This season scored 22-27, had a stinker against the Clippers, had 8, 28 and 21.
He's 20 for 36 from 3, and he's just had 19 points in the fourth quarter last night, or two nights ago.Like, he's been killing it.Lindy Waters, I don't, Lindy Waters all of a sudden is playing, and
Kaminga goes to the bench, and it's just Buddy Heald steps up.Kaminga plays better.I love what Buddy Heald has done for this team.And it seems like Buddy Heald is always about to explode, is about to be in the right system.
And Steph even spoke about it after the game.He was like, right now Buddy's in a system that he's comfortable in, and he's really just really, really, really acknowledging his role and killing it.I love what the Warriors of Buddy Heald have done.
I did not expect them to be a four in one team at this point at this juncture.I don't think they're going to stay at the top of the West, but I've been really impressed with what they have done, especially without Steph Curry.
I'm going to give you something I know about this situation.I have not talked to the individual about it, and I also I haven't read about it.
There might be something locally that's already been written about it, but a guy that I know and I've known for a long time.Chris DeMarco is one of their assistant coaches and. Chris was clay's guy.Like he was always clay's guy.
He always like, if you ever went to a warrior's game, he was the guy working out with clay through the summer.He's a guy working out with clay.And then they kind of brought along Jordan pool at the very beginning, you know, and got his career going.
But, um, with the workouts and everything, the only reason I'm mentioning this is because obviously clay is now gone.DeMarco is still there.Interestingly enough, DeMarco, in the summers, he's the head coach of the Bahamas national team.Oh yeah.
So I guarantee that is playing a part in this.It's kind of like they went straight from clay to now.This is a guy that has known him for a very long time and has worked with him for a very long time.
So I bet what you'd find is this is a very natural fit for him.And there's a comfort zone that comes along with it.Also a guy that would know exactly the best ways to utilize Buddy Heald, right?
Because he is his coach for the Bahamas every year and he happens to be on that staff.And it was the first thing that went through my mind when they signed him this offseason.I'm like, how about that? So buddy ends up there.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was a big proponent of that, of that taking place.And he has filled in to that role.And especially in the absence of Steph Curry, they have needed this badly.Jacoby, you know, they needed guys, right?
Needed guys playing the pelicans twice and and healed has stepped up and that makes a lot of sense with the DeMarco connection because Stefan the postgame talked about how much just healed loves to hoop and how he feels so comfortable and how his role fits So well, and I think that it does sort of feel like they have some advanced intelligence on healed because he's only been there for five games and he has fit in so well that that does make a lot of sense and
Well, and I'll tell you this, he is one of the very, he's one of the very few players I have ever seen.There was one day I was walking around a FedEx forum.Uh, I just had to, I had to run over there and grab something.
Not even like the team shoot around.The team had canceled their shoot around that day.This is when he was where, uh, Sacramento.Yeah.Sacramento, I believe.Um, but the team had canceled their shoot around that day.
This guy was out on the court 10 a.m.He's the only player inside the arena in an absolute full sweat, just, I mean, probably worked out for over an hour in there.Because I went and got my stuff, walked back, and I was like, you know what, man?
I'll always kind of remember that.Like, here's a guy, they canceled the shoot-around, he's in there, he's getting his shots no matter what.He was alone.Alone.All these guys take a rebounder, too.He didn't even have a rebounder with him.
He's just going out there doing it himself.And I was like, hard work guy, hard work guy for sure.All right, the player I loved, and this is unfortunately going to have a great beginning and then a sad ending.Paulo Banqueiro.
So he had a couple of duds.You know, we had lauded him in that Orlando team early in the year, and he had a couple of duds.The Brooklyn game was kind of a dud.The Memphis game was kind of a dud.
And then his response was playing against Indiana, which is a great team to get right against if you're an offensive player. But yeah, 37 in the first half is crazy and ended up with 50, 13 and nine.
That was after the two duds and that's the anytime you see these guys that have these. dud games and then their response is something like that.
And then he responded again by going to Chicago in a game that they narrowly lost, but he had 31, seven and four.So he played two games in the week and had 81 points, 20 rebounds and 13 assists, which is just crazy.
And then we get the news last night, which was the absolute worst Halloween news that you could get for a player.Uh,
Well, maybe not the worst, but terrible news nonetheless, that he's got a torn oblique and is going to be a four to six weeks, which is, I mean, it's a big chunk of the season, a big chunk of the season.
And you know, some of those games that are going to be played for that in-season tournament, like he'll miss all of that, right?This is a team that would have been a fun in-season tournament team. too.
Um, and certainly a guy that has broken straight through into what appeared to be super stardom very early in his career, got $300 million on the line.As we mentioned, if he makes an all NBA team when it's extension time, but Just terrible.
And it's so crazy because my buddy Jeff Stotts, who's, uh, does in street clothes on Twitter.He's, uh, he's great with NBA injuries.
If anybody wants to pay attention, he'll usually tell you what he's got a whole database of how long guys miss for different injuries.But I, interestingly enough, had to check what he had put about obliques.
because Desmond bank went out with a oblique injury the other night, which is just a, you just don't see that injury.Yeah.It's a weird injury.It's a, it's a, it's a back to back nights.You had oblique injuries in the NBA.
And obviously you hope that Baines isn't torn clearly, but hollows being torn.And now You know, four to six weeks, just brutal.But I was, I was absolutely in love with them right before that happened.
And so that made that news all the worse last night.
It was tough.And one of the things I loved about how Paolo started this year is you love to see the progression from year one to year two to year three. And it really felt like he was taking a superstar turn.
It really felt like his play was going to take the magic to hosting a round one playoff series.That's how it felt.And he was carrying that team to wins.
And I am very concerned about what they will do in his absence because he is so important to what they do. Because he can do everything.He shoots, he playmakes, he posts up, he rebounds, he defends.Like, he does everything.
And without him, that team looks very different.
They're about to go through what the Warriors are going through right now.And so who's, is there a Buddy Heald that could step up for them?
Chivano Heald.Is there a Chivano Heald?Yes.You know what?Of all your takes, I might agree with this one the most.I mean, Chivano Heald sounds so much cooler.It's a great name.It's a great name.
Yeah. I'm calling him Chivano, and I'm calling Steph Wardell.I'm Wardell and Chivano.
Are you going to go Timetreus for Ja Morant, or do you like Ja?
No, no, no, no.Ja's good.Okay.Ja's good.Oh, man.The big hero news is sad, but I'm glad that he's getting his flowers here in this match.I'm going to do something now for the player that I loathe that's going to get me in some trouble.
This is a bit of a zag, okay?And you mentioned him earlier in the show. But one of the players, the players that I load this week, Victor Luz Benyama.Boo!This is America's sweetheart!Victor Luz Benyama.Here's what happened.
I was so excited for the Chet-Win Benyama matchup.I was so excited.Like, I blocked out my day to watch these two go head to head.Because remember last year when they went head to head, it was appointment television.
And I know he got hurt during the game, but he did come back and play.But he was so bad in that game.I think it was the worst I've ever seen him play.And it was a marquee matchup between him and Chet.And Chet is playing so well.
And do you remember during the day, there was a reporter for ESPN, I'm sorry I don't know his name, but he was saying that Victor Wimpanyama refuses to say Chet Holmgren's name. Like they're building this up throughout the day.
Yeah.They're like, he doesn't say his name.Like he won't even mention him by name.And that was all, that was going, that was making its rounds through the day leading up to the game.And I was so excited for the two of them to go head to head.
And women, Yama one for five. How does Victor Winminyama go 1 for 5?I know he was hurt for part of the game.But 1 for 5 in a marquee matchup against someone whose name you won't even say?
And so far this year from 3, Winminyama, 1 for 8, 2 for 5, 1 for 5, 0 for 3, 4 for 13.Victor Luzvinyama.
Are you saying this is not the Bankero leap? No, right.No, we were all waiting for how good can he be?How soon?And so far it has not been that you can.I mean, I haven't seen it.Yeah.
Everybody can pull off their pants for the five by five, you know, that he had last night, but it's not been thus far.Like, Oh my goodness.He's here. You know, this happened faster than we thought, ready to dominate the league.Thank you.
Yeah, that's fair.It hasn't been that way.You know what, I wanted to hate this, but look, how many times have people, have you heard people having wimpy conversations so far this year?
No, in the first play against the Thunder, the first play of the game.Again, I'm on my couch, popcorn, ready for the matchup.Lou Dort just pushes him off his spot and gets a steal.The first possession, couldn't even get the ball.
Lou Dort's pushing him around.And listen, I'm not sitting here and speaking into a microphone and saying, Bichirwen Binyama is not going to be a superstar, not going to be a good basketball player.
I'm just saying thus far this season, I expected more from him. It's not about whether or not he is good.He is going to be a superstar.He's going to be an all-star.He's going to be all-NBA, perennial all-NBA for years to come.
But expectations, he has not met the expectations.He has not met the expectations this year so far.Do it.You want me to do it?
You want to do it.What is not meeting expectations?He's overrated. That's the exact definition.
I mean, I'm not saying he's bad at basketball.I'm saying I've been listening to so many people tell me that he is, he is the next superstar.He's going to change the game.He's a unicorn.He's an alien.All of this.Guess what?
Aliens shoot better from three.That's it.Aliens don't go over three.Aliens don't go one for eight.He's going to have 38, 17 and 10 this weekend.
Oh, for sure.For sure.He's for sure gonna do it.
Delete all of this.He's for sure gonna do it.Delete all of this, Producer Jesse.There's gonna be two games he's not gonna say.Chet and Jacoby.But I just wanna say, I just wanna say, just, I have expected more from him.
He's only shot over 50% from the floor one time this year.Think about that.He's 8 feet tall.He's only shot over 50% one time this year. I want to see more from him.Again, I'm an intelligent human being.
I know that he is good at the sport of basketball, but I want to see more.I expected more.
I want to see the Paolo type of trajectory where you get your feet wet in the first year, you start to play good in the second year, and then you play great in your third year.That's the Paolo Bancaro trajectory.
And right now, it still feels like we're in the feet wet phase.
And you wish you would have done something else that night.
Yeah.Oh yeah.The chat night.Yeah.I mean, it's national TV game.I'm on my couch.I've got it circled.I'm only going to watch this game in this game only.And I just didn't see anything.And again, I realized that he was hurt.
I get it, but he played and when he was out there, it wasn't much.
It was the player that I love this week.Bam out of bio.What is going on?Seriously?What is going on?11 and seven, 39.5% from the field.
They played two like big time teams this year, Orlando, and they got run out by 20 in their home, on their home court.And he was one of five, I think, or something like that.
Meanwhile, the magic out, rebounded them by 16 in that game and just, you know, bully balled them.And he's the guy, and this is coming off like, Oh, bam played for the Olympic team.Could this be the BAM?Oh, he's shooting threes now.
Oh, he's shooting threes.And then. He didn't come he didn't come out against Anybody that has been How do I say this?No one has ever mistaken Karl-Anthony Towns for the Incredible Hulk.
And yet, Karl-Anthony Towns had 44 and 13 on 17 of 25, 4 of 5 from 3.Meanwhile, on the other side, Bam's got this feeble ass 11 and 3.Like, how is this?What happened here?I mean, is this the only guy? Who's in the world.
Is this the only guy in the world?Now, again, I don't know everybody else's, you know, mate, but is this the only guy in the world where it is plausible?His girlfriend got could have gotten the same numbers.
I did not know you were going to go there. Maybe the Dwayne Wade statue threw him off.Maybe that's what it is.Maybe that's what it is.But in the Knicks game, he made Karl-Anthony Towns look like a bully ball player.
Karl-Anthony Towns, I mean, I don't have numbers for it.That's crazy.He probably had five dunks in that game.He was getting his own rebound, getting offensive rebounds.
Like, that's the Karl-Anthony Towns that we've all been waiting for, but it was enabled by Bam Etabayo's defense. And that's what he hangs his hat on.
Well, you remember that first game we were like, Oh, well, what, what happened here with like Jimmy Butler was feeble.And then bail out of Iowa was like a minus 30 in that first game against Orlando.
So like it, it's not like, you know, some of these teams you're seeing, like even last night, right.Where I told you, Hey, you know, Giannis is alone, right?Like, they're able to play when he's on the court.
You've seen it a bunch with Jokic already this year, right?Like, the team's pretty good when you're out there.It ain't his fault.But it's 100% Bam Adebayo.Like, he's on the floor every time they're getting their ass kicked so far.
And it's just bizarre.It's so bizarre.You could find... If you give anybody those minutes, they're going to get you 11 and 7. You get anybody on that team.Yeah.You give anybody those minutes.I mean, they're going to get you 11 at seven.
This guy is like, we're waiting for the leap coming up after, especially after, you know, you're around all the other best players in the league.You're learning all their best practices.
You know, Simmons has always got this theory about how, how, how much this can help you by being a part of that.He's come in and. Like he, I guess he is the devil's advocate to that argument.
Like this guy was a part of USA basketball, the gold medal winning team.The guy has been an absolute dud so far.
And putting him in a position, this work from the nail spot, using him as an offensive hub last year, where he would get the ball at the nail, he would hit it if you didn't cover him, and if you covered him, he would play make.
And it seemed like his offensive distribution was working really well, and this year I just haven't seen it.And you know what, when you put his name down on the rundown, I was pretty surprised.But watching that Knicks game,
Which was on, the World Series was on at the same time, so I was watching both.But watching the Knicks game, I was thinking, wow, what a great game from Karl-Anthony Towns.He's really asserting himself.
But I didn't look at it as, where is Bam Edebayo and how come he is not stopping Karl-Anthony Towns?
I mean, they all bitch every year about him not getting Defensive Player of the Year.Nobody bitches more about how they don't respect what he is as a defender.Wow. This one, this one's not easy to forget.It's a cat, bro.No offense.Interesting.
Who do you think will regret their take more?Me on Victor Wiminyama or you on Bam Edobayo?Probably me.
I mean, the odds, the fan dual odds are minus a billion.That's why I wanted you to do it.I mean, you're over, you're overrated.All-star team is growing and it's like a who's who of the best players in the NBA.I love it.
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Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com. All right.Who's the team you loved?It's the calves.I mean, it's obvious, like it's low hanging fruit.They're undefeated, but they're just The Lakers come to town, and they make light work of them.
Now, listen, I think one thing that's important to recognize, especially this early in the season, is they've played the Raptors, the Pistons, they got a good win against the Knicks.They played the Raptors, the Pistons, and the Wizards, all right?
So they've really only played the Knicks and the Lakers, but you can only play who's in front of you, and they have made light work of all of it.The Atkinson's diet is really working for them.
And when you think about the Cavs, and we've celebrated them before in this pod, you think about Garland and Mitchell, and you think about, you know, Allen and Mobley.
But what they've done without Struis, with Dean Wade, Karis Levert, Sam Merrill, and my guy George Nyang, they're making it work.The question for me is about that fifth spot, the wing spot.
They don't really have a true wing without Struis in particular.But they are, right now, it's early, but they're first in offensive rating.
And you want Levert as a bench eater.
Yeah, yeah, you need that.You can't start him.But their first and offensive rating, their third and defensive rating.So again, super early in the season, they're not going to stay there.
But first and first and offense and third and defense, that's going to get you wins.And they've got 28 and 28.4 assists per game.The fifth in the league, they move the ball.It's a good team to watch.They're shooting 41% from three like
Sometimes you can't give too much credit to like J.J.Redick or Kenny Atkinson, but sometimes you just need a different voice in the locker room.
And Atkinson has certainly, certainly sort of added a boost to this team and getting more from the players that they had last year, because they didn't really make any huge roster changes.
Well, and the other thing is maximizing guys.Maximize, like, you know, that's the thing we always wondered, is there too much overlap and that these guys are just, you're never going to simultaneously be able to get all of them to be fantastic.
And yet so far this year, and I think the revelation early in the season, It's been Garland.
I think we all expected Mowgli was going to, you know, they're going to be able to mix and match Mobley and Allen to be able to, uh, you know, stagger that, you know, in times to be able to make that, um, effective for both of them, but the Garland Mitchell thing.
And cause Garland went through the season from hell last year.You know, we've mentioned this a couple of times already this year. He made the all-star team.
He was on the trajectory to being one of, you know, one of the big time guards and a fantastic, efficient player.And he's had some really good early season games, really good early season games.And so I'm with you.
Atkinson diet's working, totally fair.And boy, they put a number on the, they put a number on the Lakers.Oh yeah.It was nice to see Bronny score though.
Sure, but that's the story out of the game.The story is, oh, guess what?Bronny made a basket.Like, all right, he's a professional basketball player.What about the fact that the Cavs are undefeated and they waxed the Lakers?
And they made light work of the Knicks too.They look good.I mean, there's a homecoming.
Come on, Jacoby.Of course, that's going to be the story.
No, he made a basket. Good job.I also think that when you have, you look at the roster and you look, you point out redundancies.You're like, Oh, Allen and Mobley are redundant.Garland and Mitchell are redundant.
That you look at that, like it's a negative, but the fact is, is they always at all times have at least two of them on the floor. So they do stagger it really well.I think the Ackerson diet is really looking great on the Cavs.
They're gonna host a playoff series.
That's fine, but if you mention that game... The story is brawny, Jacoby.
No, here's what we know.Brawny plays, things either went unbelievably well or super terrible.
It was fine.One of the things about Ronnie that I love is they've already said that he's on this first road trip.This is like, he's like, all right, here's your road trip.And he's going straight to the South Bay Lakers when they get back.
He's going straight to the South Bay Lakers and you will not see him again.
We already kind of touched on them because they are.Because you mentioned the team in the players that you love in Buddy Heald.But I got to give the Warriors their flowers.
Yeah, Chavano.I'm sorry.Chavano Heald.But I got to give the Warriors their flowers. The reason I'm bringing this up is beyond the fact that they won their two games against the Pelicans this week, okay?
It's not easy to beat somebody, then play them again the next night, and beat them again.
Theoretically, the team that loses is gonna go back and watch the game tape, and they're gonna say, okay, we did this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong, this wrong.Here's how we're gonna combat it the next night.
And then they turn around, like we see this a lot throughout the NBA playoffs, right?In games one and games two, a lot of times, even if it's a blowout in game one, game two is a much closer game, even if the other team doesn't turn the tables.
But for them to be able to win those two games in a row, and more importantly, any win that they're able to grab without Steph Curry is a great win, right?Their winning percentage without Curry has been super bleak.
Uh, and obviously we know what he brings to the table and the gravity that he brings to that team.But you have these guys stepping up, Kaminga, who they moved to the bench and actually broke out.
Had his first two, like, good games as a bench guy for them as they moved Moody in there.They've gotten production out of Trace Jackson.They've gotten production out of, as you mentioned, Chavano Heald.They even got production out of Lindy Waters.
Yeah, Lindy Waters.And so, The other thing that is important is, you know, we have projected and who knows the way the season is going to go.They've started off four and one, but you're going to look back in these kind of games.
are, can loom enormous, especially when we get to the end of the year.I don't think anybody's fancied them as a top six seed.Maybe they will shock us.Right.
But anytime, and, but every, but, and so the records are all going to get batted around, but anytime they could win without Curry is a great job.And then.
When you catch those two wins against the Pelicans, those could loom, I know it seems crazy, and it's very early in the schedule, but those could loom very large when it comes to the end of the season, right?
If you took those two losses to the Pelicans, that's a team that you could for sure be right next to in the standings.
And that could be the difference between you not, you know, being the seven or eight or the nine or 10, or maybe even the 11 or the 10.Right.You never know.
And so not only did they get, uh, those two wins without curry, they got those wins against somebody who is a direct peer of theirs, because we threw the Pelicans in the exact same bin that we threw the warriors.
And yes, it's very early in the schedule for five games of the season, but you could look back at the end of the season and those games mattered a great, great deal.And so to not even split those, that's a, that's a good job by them.
That's a really good job by them.
And with no Wiggins too. Yeah, no Wiggins.You take out Steph, you take out Wiggins.I don't even know where the offense is going to come from.And you know, Shavano Heald steps up.Trace Jackson Davis has been playing well for them as well.Yeah.
Like they're really getting the most of what they have.Now, unlike other teams where I think the hot start is indicative of where they will stay, I do not think the Warriors will stay at the top of the Western Conference.
I think they will slide regardless of the health of Steph Curry or whatever. They're, they're doing it and like, that's one of their peers.
One of their peers is the Pelicans.Like we're not looking at them and going, Hey, you never know.Uh, you know, that might matter in a tiebreaker versus Oklahoma city.Like I'm talking about a tiebreaker against the Pelicans where it could matter.
And Draymond Draymond's got the gray in his beard, you know, he's getting a little older, you know, but he's still, he's making it hard for Zion Williams.He didn't think he got, he drew two charges on Zion last night.
Like, like Draymond will, Draymond will still play some defense.Like he's not, he's not gonna be all NBA, but, but he'll still make it hard night for you if you're a player like Zion Williamson.
Um, we've spoken about this team earlier, but this is one of the, The Nuggets, we've discussed, but now it's time to talk a little bit more about the Milwaukee Bucks.What is going on?What is happening here?
You celebrate the Warriors, they lose Steph Curry, they lose Andrew Wiggins, they still win games.The Bucks, they're without Chris Middleton, but they've got their guys.They've got a top three player in Giannis Antetokounmpo.
You can't put him outside the top three.They've got Dame Lillard.Dame Lillard, one for 12. over six from three minus 27 last night.
There is no chemistry between them.There's none.There's no chemistry between the two best players.
So I fooled myself into thinking that last year was a bit of a sort of anomaly for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Do you remember Dame saying that there wasn't much to do in Milwaukee, and he went through some off-court issues in his family life, and they had the coaching change early in the season, which is a little weird, and I said to myself, all of those things, all that dust has settled, that year two will be a different experience for Dame and Milwaukee.
So far, it's worse than it was last year. This team last night, you were at the game.They had, so let's say an NBA basketball game is around a hundred possessions, right?Let's just call it a hundred possessions.Okay.They had 20 assists.
So think about that.20 assists to only 20 times.Did a player pass the ball to another player for a basket?That's a really low number there.They have 22.3 assists per game.That's 25th in the league. 25th.
So there's only five teams that have less assists per game than them.It's a mess.And how is a Damien?
We, when they made that deal, we all sat back and said, a Damien Lillard, Giannis onto the Kumpo pick and roll is like super cyan, uh, Stockton and Malone.Like this is unstoppable. What are you going to do?You have no good choice.
They don't even run it.They don't even, this isn't even like part of what they do.It's crazy to me.It is absolutely crazy.Watch the way they function.And they just don't, they have no chemistry.
None, none, none.So you're at the game.You're in the, you're, you sit close.Tell me what you feel from this team.Oh, no.
That's what I was saying to you with the start, the start of the show.It's just, It's just five guys that are, it's Giannis and four guys.And obviously look, fair is fair.I saw the worst Damian Lillard performance this morning.Right?
Like, I mean, I, it got to the point where when I was scrolling through my Instagram this morning, he made the, you know, there's like an Instagram that puts the, it's like the Chinese song in the background.And then they put up their stats.
Like the player's going to have to go play in China. Yeah.Yeah.I did it to Dame this morning.
I mean, I saw the worst of the worst, but like you watch teams and the way they communicate with each other and the way they huddle with each other and the way they interact with their coach and everything else.Oh, there's nothing.
I mean, it's just, it's lifeless.There's no like, there's no togetherness.It's just guy pointing here, guy pointing there. and taking the ball out of the basket with their heads down.I'm telling you, I texted you guys last night.It is bad vibes, man.
Bad vibes.They lost to the Nets and the Bulls.
I watched both of them.The Nets and the Bulls.And let me tell you this, the way those teams interacted with each other, infinitely better than the way the Bucks did.
Now again, they were winning, but even when they were losing, those guys were still like talking, communicating, right?With each other, right?You could tell that they were trying to get on the same page. And then they ended up doing it.
Both those guys, both those teams.And by the way, that Schroeder camp Thomas backcourt is cooking.It wasn't just, it wasn't just Memphis.They've been cooking 33 last night.They almost had a couple of really good ones this week.
I mean, they, they took, you know, they should have won that Denver game. They came to Memphis and on the second night of a back-to-back busted their ass.
You gotta watch out.I'm two weeks away from celebrating Ben Simmons.Just give me two weeks.
Give me two more weeks.The Nets are one of those teams because they've got enough of those guys that really do give a shit.They're one of those teams that everybody is going to just be like, oh shit, we're playing the Nets.
And they're going to catch teams. especially early in the season, just because, just because you look up and you're like, damn man, Dennis Schroeder's got 30.
Like he's going to try like a lot of these teams, a lot of like the, a lot of the tanking teams, it doesn't happen until later in the season, but They're just lifeless too.
But what was crazy is this is a team that we think of as a possible title contender with the Bucks simply because of their best player.And they were just a lifeless mess, truly, lifeless mess.
So we have to have, we're obligated as NBA podcasters to have the conversation.What about a Giannis trade? Not yet.If this season goes the way it's going.
Not yet.If it goes the way it's going.No, you exhaust.No, you, you try to exhaust everything you can.Like again, I think this is my opinion.The much more likely scenario.Everybody's talking about y'all.Oh, y'all is going to have to get out of there.
Y'all is going to get out of there.Right.He signed the extension there.He wants to be there as long as they can build around him. You just waved the white flag on the Dame thing.This wasn't the match.The guy never wanted to be here.
And let's go ahead and get max value that we can sooner than later.But what is the market for Dame Lillard?I mean, I mean, would you?Who wants Dame Lillard right now?Wouldn't you revisit the Miami thing and try to get Butler?
Again, you're always in win now mode when you've got one of these players.
You know what I mean?We said it earlier this week, but it is interesting just the parallel between the Nuggets and the Bucks.Two teams that have recently won championships that doubled down on that core, and now that core is turning on them.
Yeah.I mean, you try to find somebody out there that really wants Lillard and thinks they could take, you know, take them to, they need it.They think they can take them to the next level.
And you know, the easiest one to go at is hopefully you can catch a frustrated Miami heat and just say, all right, bro, you always wanted to be there anyway.Let's see if we can actually get real value from them now.
And then you try to build out around Giannis a different way.Right. I mean, you know, you try to build around.Yeah, look, dude, you exhaust everything you can.Everybody's going to be out.
Look, everybody's always going to say, trade the honest, trade the honest, trade the honest, right?Like, I think you exhaust everything before you do.And you try to you give it one more crack, and obviously you get the next one wrong.
Now you got three strikes, right?Because you moved your holiday.You tried Daimler alert and now whatever you try next.
There's a part of Drew Holiday that enjoys this. There has to be like all of drew a hundred percent.Oh, there has to be a part of drew holiday.
It's like, yeah, when I was there, we won a championship and then you guys traded me for Dame Lillard and now look at you.Oh, by the way, I also won a championship last year.Just so you know.Right.Love that for drew holiday.All right.
So we did teams, by the way, go, go even look, if you go to like ESPN.com, whatever, you know, they get the headshot for the year.Go look at Lillard.He wouldn't even fake a smile on media day. And it's not that, no, it's the worst kind.
People are going to think I'm crazy here.It's the worst kind because there's the, I'm making a serious face to show that I'm about business.There's the typical smile for the camera. like most people do.And he gives it this meh half smile.Just apathy.
His picture tells you I hate this.
I have no buddies here.I'm a hero to nobody.
Oh, no, it's bad.I'm looking at it right now.He's trying to smile.His face won't even let him smile.No, he can't do it.His face won't let him smile.It won't let him.Oh, God.It's a tough one.
And also, in last year, it was like, there's nothing to do in Milwaukee.It's like, bro, you were in Portland.Like, you got to make the most of it.You're making $50 million a year.
You had family and friends there, at least.
I guess.Andy was God. My god, he had four points two rebounds and six assists last night some minus 29 That's why he's not smiling.He's really not smiling.If you're listening to this podcast, push pause and look up Dave Miller on ESPN.com.I told you.
His face, he's got the strangest face.
It's the most, I don't want to do this.I don't, yeah.And that's the picture that everyone's, you know, that's the picture everybody's going to see all year.That's why Jimmy Butler.That's the best one.They did 50 of these.That's the best one.
They're like, smile, Dave. No.No.All right.No.
Tough set for my guy.That just made me sad.Can we go positive though?This one's right up your alley.I did this for you.All right.This is my gift to you, Chris Vernon.The thing that I love this- No, I didn't get to do the team I loathe.
Oh, do the team you loathe.You were the butt.I was excited too.I was trying to give you a gift. I'm gonna get for you later.
All right.I'm go.I had to go with the Hawks.Give me a break.All right, the Hawks.Losing to the Wizards is despicable.
Okay, I know that it's it's despicable to lose to the Wizards, but we are very early in the season and I'll give them a bit of a pass.Oh, wait, they lost to the Wizards. back to back games.Losing to the Wizards twice is worthy of me loathing you.
That's crazy.And I mean, the only thing you did, and Belil Coulibaly, who should have been on my players. I mean, they turned him into the superstar guy as a career high 27 against them, but to lose to them and then turn around.
So you lose to him and then you turn around and lose to him worse.Theoretically, you made adjustments to deal with the wizard and got beat worse.
Bali was shocked that he was a little cooler Bali.He was like, I have how many points? It's possible unheard of truly Unheard of for them one of those games one of those games Trey young was really really bad Yeah, like I'll look it up.
It seems like to it was the first one the first one the second one He had 35 and 15 But the first one he was a dud Yeah, nice nice adjustments coach him up Quinn
Kulibaly.11 for 14 from the field.
Kulibaly.Shout out to Joe House.Is he better than Wimbayama?Hey, stop the season.Would you rather build your franchise around Kulibaly or Wimbayama? Who would you rather build your franchise around?
You know what?Kulibaly was probably like, you know what?I'm tired of all this Risa Shay shit.I'm the guy.I'm the guy.Who cares about Risa Shay?
I'm the guy. Koulibaly was on that weird made-up team that Wembenyama was on, like Metropolis 92 or whatever.Yeah, he was on that team.Yes.God, Balil Koulibaly.The French AAU team!The French AAU team!I was like, what league is this team in?
They're like, oh, I don't know.Is this team just before?No.Is it just after?No.They're gone.All right, it's like some guys?Yeah, all right.I guess so.
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All right, the thing you loved, let me hear it.
This is for you.Oh.I just want everyone to know that if you are part of the Huff Hive, this is the podcast for you.The thing that I loved is just everything about Jay Huff.And if you're unfamiliar, He's on the Grizzlies.Hold on.Hold on a second.
Hold on.Uh-oh.Uh-oh.Bruno just stopped the show, walked away from his seat, and he's going to come back.
Well, one thing that I'll fill time with this, this is the thing I love this week was huff, not just signing a four year deal, but showing up on Halloween as Kyle Kuzma with the sweater.Yeah.Look at that.
So now this is the best present I've ever gotten from Joe house.When we did a live show in Memphis, Joe house brought me this. The Kyle Kuzma, Kyle Kuzma bobblehead.
And Huff dressed as Kyle Kuzma on Halloween.And he signed a four-year deal.I've seen this man dunk.I've seen him hit threes.I've seen him block shots.This is the Huff High.
If you want any updates on Jay Huff and the latest of Jay Huff, you will get it right here on The Mismatch twice a week.
Yeah.Unbelievable.Jay Huff, who played in Virginia and then he actually won G league defensive player of the year and it's kind of bounced around, but now he has been signed up to a minimum contract for four years.Yeah.
Years down the road, which look, Memphis has done that with four different guys now, which is exactly the kind of thing.If you got guys that can actually play, it's the best thing that can ever happen for your franchise.
If you could find them and you can get them on these two way contracts, there's now four guys that have been converted from two ways to roster spots with long-term minimum deals.Scottie Pippen Jr, GG Jackson, Vince Williams, and now Jay Huff.
And in this, Era where you are having to pay your best players, right?
So jaren jackson jr will be in line for a max and you know, john morant's contract the next one will be insane Uh, desmond bain already got his mac max extension like you have to have guys that can outperform contracts That's the only way that's the way it goes right and juxtaposed when you see like i'm watching milwaukee last night
And it's a perfect example, right?Where not their guys that they've brought in on, on low deals, right?Like the Tarim princes and the Dilan rights and the Gary Trent juniors and the whatever, right?
It's like, if you can find young guys that can outperform their contracts, that's the gold in the NBA.
And who knows, you know, I mean, there's no risk when you sign these guys to minimum deals, because especially with the way the cap is now, if it doesn't work out, then okay. Like we'll take the cap hit every year because it's a couple million bucks.
Um, but he's a cool story for sure.And he's had some big nights and that Halloween costume was out of control.I mean, I don't even know where, and, and by the way, he's seven foot tall.
So do you know how long, I mean, where do you even, how would you even go about ordering plans in advance?
Yeah.Like three weeks ago, he was like, I'm going to dress as Kyle Kuzma for Halloween. Like in like September, he decided that.
Do you have to have it made?Like there's no way.
Cause there's no way he bought.You can't buy that off the rack.Yeah.No, but I'm saying like there is, like, I don't even know who sells that, but surely, right.You didn't buy the same one Kyle Kuzma did.Cause he probably spent two grand on it.
Right.And Kyle, you know, Kyle Kuzma retired from, um, from tunnel, tunnel fits.So he's like, I'm out.I'm not doing this anymore. And somehow the world's still spinning.Somehow I still wake up every day.
It was too much effort.Well, I mean, look, it is kind of like walk out on top.Bro, after you had that huge, you know, the black puffer coat where like his hand was sticking out and then the sweater.
I mean, that's kind of like, you know, it's kind of like Elway.Just walk out while you're on top.Joe House is the best.Just walk away. All right.The thing I loved this week.Oh, you're going to love this.Oh, are you going to love this?All right.
So your beloved Joe Missoula. Um, who I know you're a huge fan of, uh, Joe Missoula said, quote, the biggest thing that we rob people, uh, of an, uh, from an entertainment standpoint is you can't fight anymore.I wish we'd bring back like fighting.
Missoula told NBC sports, Boston, you want to talk about robbing the league of entertainment? What's more entertaining than a little scuffle?How come in baseball they're allowed to clear the benches?How come in hockey they're allowed to fight?
I don't understand.Okay.Um, I love this.I love this so much because it can be taken either as a totally unserious thing and you don't know if he's trolling or is this guy really serious?And the reason I love it is because it gives you that debate.
where something is so crazy that you don't know whether or not the guy is serious or not.Most of the things he says are like that.And he's saying it.He's either in character, right?
Because he's not saying this like to let you believe that he's trolling.So then you are led to believe this guy is serious. But then there's that part of you that's like, there's no way he's serious, right?Like there's no way.
And the fact that this guy is keeping me on edge, I mean, obviously I lean towards the guy's just a nutball, but I, um, I mean, and maybe he doesn't remember the palace.I don't know.
Like, I mean, that's obviously an easy retort is to be like, Hey man, the reason that this, you know, here's a 30 for 30.You could watch just in case.
Just in case you have to forget.All right, instead of the town for the 4,000th time, just watch this 30 for 30.Like we did have that.We did.And then this horrible thing happened.But so here's what I love about this quote so much.
Is he, he's user friendly.He's like, this is what we robbed the people of.He's like, we take this from the viewers.The NBA fans are being robbed.It's a disservice to our paying customers that we're not allowed to fight.
And then he, he, this was also, this was the headline, but he also said he wanted like a, like hockey style, like a penalty box.So you'd have to go four on five for a while if someone like, you know, had a flagrant foul or whatever.
And so look, and obviously there's a debate that goes along with this.My favorite, my, no, no, no, no.I'm about to give you the debate.I think you and I both When you think back to maybe some of our favorite basketball memories, right?
You as a Knicks fan, me as a Grizzlies fan.My favorite team of all time is the grind Grizzlies. having fighting would have been amazing.There are some of these teams in league history.
And by the way, his team right now, he doesn't want that team to fight.Like Luke Cornet and like, get the out of here.Like, come on, Joe.If we had fighting, your team is not the best team.Okay.
If we had fighting right now in the NBA, they ain't the best team. But my favorite team of all time are like those 90s Knicks.
Like can you imagine the 90s Knicks and Jeff Van Gundy was hanging on a dude's leg during the Knicks and the Dicks in the Heat when they were still letting them go.And so obviously, look, if they let guys fight.
Charles Oakley would be back in the league.For sure.Oh, and Haslam.I mean, this is like his first year away.He's like, oh.
Another thing, so here's what Missoula's doing here.I think he's serious, right?I think he's actually serious.And remember, he's a big jujitsu guy.So he spends most of his time doing jujitsu and learning how to fight.I think he's in this mentality.
He doesn't spend most of his time doing jujitsu.Yeah, the majority of his time on the planet
Spent wrestling But he spends a lot of time thinking about jiu-jitsu and practicing jiu-jitsu So he's in the gym not lifting weights or running on a treadmill.
He's fighting So I think that's part of his mentality is like we should be allowed to fight I think he wants to fight other head coaches.I think that's really what it is.He's I think he just wants to fight other head coaches
Well, the answer is and forgive me cause I don't know if he's the answer is whoever has James Johnson.That's the team that wins on the Pacers.
Now he's on the Pacers.Now never plays.Okay.
But it doesn't matter.That's the team that went like, I don't care.That guy is like a literal black belt.
Like It doesn't matter if the rest of your guy, like Tyrese Halliburton could just sit over on the side, like James Johnson will take care of it.That guy is a lethal, like he's a legitimately lethal human being. Missoula.
Oh, you think Missoula just wants to fight the other coach?He wants to fight.Yeah.He's a jujitsu guy.All right.He knows that he will win the fights.I wish you would have prepared me for this because I'm looking up and down.Now I got to see again.
I know he's a jujitsu guy, but I'm seeing if there's anybody just right off the bat that I can look at email.Yeah.Email Doka.Yeah, he could probably scrap. You look up and down now, there ain't a lot of these guys that you'd wanna go to.
No.No.I'm not picking Mark Dagonal over Missoula.Right?And we got Jiu-Jitsu's, you know, remember, People always think about fighting as like punching, but like jujitsu, that'll prepare you to win some things.Good for Mizzou.He really wants to fight.
Really what he wants to fight.It's not about disservice to the fans.It's about him wanting to fight other head coaches.If you gave him truth serum, he'd be like, really, it's about me.
I really want to beat the shit out of the other head coaches in the league.
Maybe Jason Kidd could scrap.Yeah, maybe Willie Green could scrap. Yeah.We're light.
It's gotta be.Yeah.Yeah.I take Missoula and email.Those are going to be your number one and number two seeds.
Chauncey may be able to scrap a little bit.Possibly.I don't know.All right.Uh, so that was the thing you love this week.All right.The thing that you loathed.
So this, I don't like covering the coverage. Right.I don't like sort of like talking about media as a member of the media.
But the thing that I didn't like this week comes from a player that has a very long career in the media.I, this, this player is my prediction to be sort of like the next sort of Charles Barkley.
And that is Draymond Green famously has his own podcast.I think that he's going to have a very, very good post basketball media career.He's already got a successful podcast.
And, um, he mentioned this week, he was very critical of the way that the Oklahoma city thunder do their postgame interviews. And the way that they do them as a group and, and how they bark like dogs.
And he's like, Oh, there's something it's hard to win in the league.It's an honor to have a postgame interview and having the whole group there.He was critical of it.And I was like, Draymond. You're anti-fun?You don't like collective happiness?
You don't like teammates supporting teammates?What is it about this that bothers you?Because I love the fact that they do their interviews the way they do their interviews in post-games.
It reminded me of one thing that I was thinking about, Draymond's Warriors.Before they won, do you remember that OT Genesis song?I'm in love with the cuckoo.Do you remember that song?I know every OT Genesis song.
I don't know what, OT Genesis doesn't know every OT Genesis song.But I remember a Warriors team playing video of them all singing that song.And I remember thinking to myself, those guys are having so much fun together.
They're having so much fun playing basketball together.And that exact same year, they won the championship.And I felt the same way about the Thunder.I was like, those guys are having so much fun being together.
on the court, off the court, practice, trips, flights, meals, that they have this group dynamic where no one stands out above the whole sum of the parts.
And I love that about the Thunder, and I love the way they do their post-game interviews, and I feel like Draymond was being a little bit of a hater.That's the thing I love this week.
This is perfect, because we've never spoken about this.Oklahoma City rallying everybody all They stole it.
They are a cheap knockoff of what happened with John Moran, Desmond Bain, Jaron Jackson, Tyus Jones, DeAnthony Melton, Kyle Anderson, Steven Adams, Brandon Clark.This was a Memphis thing that they did.And they're the new Memphis.
They just came last year, the whole Memphis team got hurt.And so they just said, oh, we're the new Memphis.We're bootleg Memphis.That's what we are.We're small market, everybody cheers for us, bootleg Memphis.
And they stole word for word, bar for bar, just like Drake did with Soulja Boy.Word for word, bar for bar. Kiss you through the phone.They've stolen everything that Memphis did.I wouldn't be surprised if they start playing 3-6 Mafia at their games.
This is, and Draymond, to his credit, I'm gonna stand up for him.He shit all over Memphis every time Memphis did it and said, these young bucks, this ain't time to win for them yet.This ain't, they're not, they're unserious.They're unserious.
They're young, they think they're hot shit.This isn't how you win, they're unserious.And guess what?Draymond was right.He was right.And in fact, they're the ones that took down the Grizzlies.And he was right.
And that's when he famously told Dylan Brooks, shut the F up, the dynasty starts after you in Memphis.And it's like, So this isn't, this is par for the course with Draymond.He did this, but now everybody's beloved Oklahoma City Thunder.
Oh, we all love the Oklahoma City.Let me tell you something.There ain't an original thing they're doing with that.Go back and watch.Memphis did this every post game, every post game. and they just stole it.Word for word, bar for bar.
Draymond was right about the Grizzlies and Draymond is right about the Thunder as well.They ain't gonna win shit.
You sound jealous.You sound vindictive.You sound insecure.And you sound like a homer.
Tried to build their team the exact same way.Oh, they've got John Morant.Okay.It's John Morant and it's Desmond Bain and it's Jaron Jackson.And so they said, Oh, okay.We'll get Shane Gildas Alexander, Jalen Williams and, uh, and, uh, Chet Holmgren.
Yeah.Okay.All right.All right.
Look, word for word, bar for bar.No, you are correct.They both did do group interviews after the games.However, the Thunder will have the best record in the Western Conference and will be title contenders, whereas the Grizzlies never were.
What do you mean they weren't?They were a two seed, for goodness sakes.OK?They were a two seed.How'd that work out?OK?How'd it work out?How'd it work out for the Thunder last year?Watching Derrick Jones Jr.hit another three?Get out of here.Come on.
What have they done? What have they done?Do you know what they're not doing in Oklahoma City when they do those group interviews?They're not saying, oh wait, how did Memphis do it?Let's do it like that.That's not what they're doing.
They saw Memphis and just.
just took their style word for word.
I guess you hate, you hate chemistry and you hate teammates and you hate fun.I understand.That's not true.
All right.The thing I love this week was this announcement that was going around about Stefan Marbury the second going to Cal.I was like, Oh, come on.I can't take this anymore.Like there's not a day that goes by you and I are both old, but older, but
feel we don't feel old and yet this stuff happens where i'm constantly reminded so is stefan marbury the second going to cow and he's going to team up with page's kid pages kid and now there's not a day that goes by obviously the worst one for me
is DJ Wagner because I covered the one Wagner at Memphis.Okay.So that one is like at 19, like he was out of fresh out of high school.I covered the one Wagner.So that one hurts.
Also it hurt for me to see Jace Richardson at Michigan state because the first NBA coverage I ever did. was I went to a Jason Richardson versus Trenton Hassel draft workout for the Grizzlies.And now Jace Richardson is at Michigan State.
That is- Carmelo Anthony's kid.I feel like Carmelo Anthony was at Syracuse like 10 years ago.And now his kid's in college, going to be in college.Oh, look, there was like- Even, you know, Trace Jackson Davis. That's one of the Davis's kids.
There's boozers.Got kid arenas.Got the kid.Carmelo's got the kid right in football.There's all kinds, like, you know, you're tuning in and you're watching, you know, Michigan state Samuel.Yeah.Michigan state's got Antonio Gates jr.
Like, what are we doing?What?I feel like I just watched it or I just saw Clinton Portis.His kids are like, just committed somewhere.And I'm like, okay, dude. This is troubling, right?These are all the guys that I felt like go burst.
This kid is going to Notre Dame.
Yeah.Oh, and then look, the other worst one for me is, uh, you know, a, uh, a kid that was an elementary school, an elementary school, like kindergarten age, Zeebo's daughter, sat behind me at every game.
Like she sat on the front row and I was on media row and she was just a McDonald's all American is about to start her freshman year at Louisville.And I'm like, Oh, I'm out.I'm out of here.Step on Marbury the second.That's crazy. Enough.Going to Cal.
I know.I know.Going to California.So we are, I loathe that every week I am constantly made to feel old.No, not good.
So is Stefan Marbury famously sort of like caught on in China and he's beloved there and they did a bio musical about his life and I'm dying to see a Chinese musical about the life of Stefan Marbury.
I might fly all the way across the world just to see that production.I'm going to do some research after the pod and see if it's still running, because I will see that thing.
I would love nothing more than to see a Chinese musical about the life of Stefan Marbury.
It's amazing.All right.Thanks for listening to another episode of The Mismatch.Thanks as always to Dave Jacoby.Thanks to our executive producer, Jesse Lopez, and we will talk to you next week.
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